Speaker 1: Early a minutes fourth quarter over in London, Brown seventeen,
Speaker 1: Vikings fourteen, and the Browns have the ball. So are
Speaker 1: the Lions today particular problems? What should we look for
Speaker 1: offensively and defensive Well, offensively we've kind of lined them
Speaker 1: up and all you have to do is look at
Speaker 1: the numbers and you'll know just how good they are.
Speaker 1: But what about when the Bengals have the ball and
Speaker 1: they move on the Lions, Will Jamar Chase be able
Speaker 1: to get off and deliver us the kind of game
Speaker 1: that this team desperately needs right now?
Speaker 2: Oh, Jamar, But he got a lot of guys on
Speaker 2: on IR right now. So I think they're gonna come
Speaker 2: out play zone a lot. They're mostly a man team,
Speaker 2: you know, disguise a couple of zones. The majority of
Speaker 2: the time they playing man. But against I think they're
Speaker 2: gonna go zone.
Speaker 3: Do you prefer the zone or man?
Speaker 2: And of course yeah, a lot of guys don't.
Speaker 3: Players.
Speaker 2: I mean, Denver played us man last year. This year
Speaker 2: they played us man for quarter and went to his
Speaker 2: own affect whole games.
Speaker 1: Big money ball players, Jamar Chase T Higgins got to
Speaker 1: get the ball to him, got to run. I mean
Speaker 1: you've got to establish a running game. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you have to, now I don't. I mean, it's easier
Speaker 1: said than done. But if you're working on one thing
Speaker 1: this past week, I hope you are working on trying
Speaker 1: to get some sort of running attack. But Zack Tanner,
Speaker 1: he says, all will be okay if we just focus.
Speaker 4: I love personally playing playing these types of games. These
Speaker 4: are my favorite games to play. This is why we
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 4: Our backs against the wall. A little bit going in
Speaker 4: this game off of two losses. That's perfect, you know.
Speaker 4: I'd like to see how everbody responds, who lives in fear,
Speaker 4: who thrives in the university. It's a great opportunity for
Speaker 4: a coach to really assess what guys are made of,
Speaker 4: myself included.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, here we go.
Speaker 8: It's noon on a glorious Sunday foot in downtown Cincinnati.
Speaker 8: Mollegger with Tony Pike at the Holy Grail just down
Speaker 8: the street from the venue originally known as Paul Brown Stadium.
Speaker 8: It's the RNL Carriers pregame sports Talk show live from
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Speaker 8: three hours Tony Wow to entertain all these Detroit Lions fans.
Speaker 3: Yep. A lot of Honolulu Blues they call it around here.
Speaker 8: Think about third Sports Weekend Michigan Yeah, knocks off Luke
Speaker 8: Fickle in Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: Tough Luke Fickle team.
Speaker 8: I would imagine most of them are Michigan fans. Michigan
Speaker 8: State lost in Nebras.
Speaker 3: Has there been a happier coach to cover us bread
Speaker 3: than Luke Fickle? I don't know.
Speaker 7: Maybe Eddie George.
Speaker 8: A couple of weeks ago, the Detroit Tigers wow in
Speaker 8: extra innings and then.
Speaker 3: They get scoop on now.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Wow, beat the Seattle Mariners in Game one of
Speaker 8: their American League Division series, and now they have invaded Cincinnati. Look,
Speaker 8: I'll call it what it is, Okay. I got down
Speaker 8: here about ten minutes after eleven o'clock and I look
Speaker 8: down Freedom Away.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of blue and silver here.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm thinking today stripe the stadium orange, black, blue, silver.
Speaker 3: It should pop, It should pop on TV.
Speaker 8: We do have a lot of Bengals fans in the house,
Speaker 8: and the thing is can we hear them?
Speaker 3: Can I get a whodah? Okay, we've got time.
Speaker 7: To work on that.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're just starting.
Speaker 8: This was the game when the schedule got released back
Speaker 8: in May that I thought, that's gonna be awesome. Right
Speaker 8: week five, you're a few weeks into the season. Detroit's
Speaker 8: gonna be really good. You know, by then, they'll have
Speaker 8: figured out how to replace the two coordinators, the Bengals
Speaker 8: will have survived three out of the first four on
Speaker 8: the road, and we're gonna get like this early October
Speaker 8: showdown between two Super.
Speaker 3: Bowl hopefuls super Bowl contenders.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure that I would categorize the game as such.
Speaker 3: Not yet, but this organization has a lot of faith
Speaker 3: in Jake Browning.
Speaker 7: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get this figured out, uh huh. And what
Speaker 3: better time to do it than when no one, no
Speaker 3: one believes that they can do it.
Speaker 8: I have not met one Bengals fan this week. Typically,
Speaker 8: you know they've been underdogs in games. Yeah, but you'll
Speaker 8: find the folks and sometimes they're right. Sometimes I agree
Speaker 8: with them. That'll walk you down a path where at
Speaker 8: the end of it, the Bengals win the game.
Speaker 3: I try to do that.
Speaker 8: The Bengals are ten and a half point dogs today.
Speaker 8: I have not talked to one person who anticipates a
Speaker 8: home team victory. So if they win, when they win,
Speaker 8: perhaps I don't want to hear a bunch of I
Speaker 8: told you so, because listen, this week, literally nobody has
Speaker 8: told me so.
Speaker 3: I try throughout the course of the week. React on Monday,
Speaker 3: react on Tuesday, than a slow build, start to turn
Speaker 3: the page on Wednesday, and then by Thursday, normally I'm
Speaker 3: talking myself into how they win the game. Here we
Speaker 3: are on Sunday, I'm still trying to figure out how
Speaker 3: they win the game. What Detroit does extremely well is
Speaker 3: what we struggle in all areas of the game with.
Speaker 3: They are more than I think any team in the NFL,
Speaker 3: a product of their head coaches mentality.
Speaker 7: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: Like, I don't think you find any other teams that
Speaker 3: you're like, Man, they match exactly who their coach is, correct,
Speaker 3: and I want that in Cincinnati.
Speaker 8: But you know what's interesting about that they You know
Speaker 8: it's it's cliche in sports, right, you take on the
Speaker 8: personality of your coach. I think the Lions do. But
Speaker 8: also schematically they're inventive. They were with Ben Johnson, they
Speaker 8: are without Ben Johnson. They come up with different ways
Speaker 8: to beat you. Offensively, there's a wide variety of things
Speaker 8: they do. They're tough on defense, but they're also fundamentally good. Yeah,
Speaker 8: like Dan Campbell. I'll admit, man, I got it wrong
Speaker 8: about that guy because I remember the year they were
Speaker 8: on Hard Knocks, going, oh God, I'm not buying into
Speaker 8: this professional wrestling character. You know, He's this is what
Speaker 8: a football coach in the movies is, like, uh oh man.
Speaker 7: They take on that mentality. But they're also well coached.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're so well coached. And I can't begin to
Speaker 3: reiterate how hard it is to not replace one coordinator
Speaker 3: but both. Yeah, both have been fully entrenched in their system,
Speaker 3: and I think offensively they figured it out quicker than
Speaker 3: what they have defensively. But you watch them over the
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks, they are starting to piece it
Speaker 3: together defensive and it's not shocking. They're going to be
Speaker 3: the same team. They're gonna be physical, they're gonna try
Speaker 3: to play man coverage, they're gonna bring pressure. Aiden Hutchinson
Speaker 3: is getting back into the swing of things. They're just
Speaker 3: they're balanced. They take on their coaching and everything they
Speaker 3: do feels like it works off each other. Yeah, Like
Speaker 3: when you watch them offensively, it feels like one play
Speaker 3: sets up the next, and then that sets up another play,
Speaker 3: and they can work off those. There's just rhythm and
Speaker 3: like a connectedness that they play with when you watch them.
Speaker 8: I don't know how you prepare to defend them because
Speaker 8: two very good running backs Cincinnati's owned David Montgomery making
Speaker 8: the homecoming, Jamir Gibbs, Amanrey Saint Brown is terrific. Sam
Speaker 8: Laport is very good. Like, I don't know if you're
Speaker 8: Al Golden. Al Golden has to start with can I
Speaker 8: figure out how to get eleven guys on the field? Yeah,
Speaker 8: start with that. Once he has accomplished that, I don't
Speaker 8: know how you look at the Lions and go, well,
Speaker 8: we're gonna take away this or we're gonna make them
Speaker 8: more make it more challenging for them to do this
Speaker 8: because of all the different ways that they can beat you.
Speaker 3: Well, the problem is they're scrambling on offense in Cincinnati
Speaker 3: right now. You and I talked all training camp just
Speaker 3: hoping the defense could be middle of the pack, right,
Speaker 3: but now the offense is an elite and now you're
Speaker 3: looking at the defense and saying, well, we need more
Speaker 3: out of the defense. But they weren't built. They weren't
Speaker 3: constructed to be a top ten defense. So now you
Speaker 3: look at this and you say, well, how do you
Speaker 3: become one? Al going doesn't like the pressure? Do you
Speaker 3: send more pressure? If you're out going? Do you put
Speaker 3: guys more? Because the mentality of this defense was bend
Speaker 3: but don't break, give up yards and hold teams to
Speaker 3: field goals instead of touchdowns. You got to throw that
Speaker 3: out the window now because now you're being asked to
Speaker 3: be a top fifteen defense because the offense isn't able
Speaker 3: to carry the load like we thought they were going
Speaker 3: into the year.
Speaker 8: So let me set you up for the day today
Speaker 8: here on these two radio stations ESPN fifteen thirty seven
Speaker 8: hundred WLW Tony and I here from the Holy Grail
Speaker 8: until three o'clock. It goes without saying if you are
Speaker 8: coming to the game, I don't care if you're rooting
Speaker 8: for the Bengals or Lions. Sure, there's no better place
Speaker 8: to post up. We'll have all the one o'clock games.
Speaker 8: There's a game happening right now in London. The Browns
Speaker 8: lead the Vikings seventeen.
Speaker 3: To fad matchups.
Speaker 8: Neither team's defense looks like a bad matchup for the
Speaker 8: other team's very bad matchup.
Speaker 3: Bad matchups Dylan Gabriel first start, Brian flor As defense impossible.
Speaker 8: The season of bad matchups impossible for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 8: If you're going to the game, obviously pre post here.
Speaker 8: If you're not going to the game, but you want
Speaker 8: to take in a gorgeous summer afternoon here on an
Speaker 8: October Sunday in Cincinnati, obviously the game is going to
Speaker 8: be shown all over the place. Countdown to kickoff takes
Speaker 8: over at three o'clock. Wayne box Miller and then Dan
Speaker 8: Horden Dave Lapam have the game kickoff at four to
Speaker 8: twenty five. Today, Cincinnati has lost two consecutive games. They
Speaker 8: have been outscored seventy six to thirteen in their last two,
Speaker 8: obviously both losses. Taking on a Detroit team today that
Speaker 8: has scored one hundred and twenty four points over their
Speaker 8: last three. If there's someone listening to us right now
Speaker 8: who's like, look, I turned you guys on to get
Speaker 8: ready for the game, and I want a dose of optimism,
Speaker 8: where does that start?
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase and t Higgins. You know, I thought it
Speaker 3: interesting during the week that Jamar Chase talked about wanting
Speaker 3: some fire and anger from the locker room. T Higgins
Speaker 3: openly talked this week about we got to get the ball,
Speaker 3: and we got to get the ball early. And not
Speaker 3: to say that everyone else doesn't need to get the ball,
Speaker 3: but hey, we got to start getting ours. We got
Speaker 3: to start getting the ball because good things happen when
Speaker 3: T Higgins and Jamar Chase get the ball. I would
Speaker 3: start with that, and then I go a step further
Speaker 3: into what Jamar Chase said, anger some fire. Who does
Speaker 3: that on this team? Because I think if you want
Speaker 3: to take any type of step, at some point, leaders
Speaker 3: have to emerge.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know who that is right now on the defense.
Speaker 3: I don't know who it is right now on the offense.
Speaker 3: So but they need to emerge if you want to
Speaker 3: start leading from the front and rallying guys, because right
Speaker 3: now everyone's kind of got this stun feel man. We
Speaker 3: lost Burrow, We're getting our tails kicked in and everyone's
Speaker 3: just looking and waiting. And I don't think Zach is
Speaker 3: the fire guy. I don't think Al Golden's a fire guy.
Speaker 3: We don't see much anger, We don't see much explosion
Speaker 3: on the sidelines. Who is that?
Speaker 9: So?
Speaker 8: I think it's Jamar, And I thought it was Jamar
Speaker 8: on Monday night on the field, and I thought it
Speaker 8: was Jamar this week talking about his message to his teammates.
Speaker 8: But you asked a question a second ago, who's that
Speaker 8: guy in the defense?
Speaker 7: Like, I don't know.
Speaker 8: I know who one of those guys used to be.
Speaker 8: He's playing for the Detroit Lions. Yeh, DJ Reider, I
Speaker 8: don't know who that is. You might say, well, it's
Speaker 8: supposed to be Logan Wilson. Logan Wilson has had his
Speaker 8: workload decrease recent in recent weeks. By this stage in
Speaker 8: his career, maybe it should be Cam Taylor britt Well,
Speaker 8: old boy just got benched for the third time in
Speaker 8: less than a year last week.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 8: Defensively, maybe it should be Trey Hendrickson. I just don't
Speaker 8: know that that's his personality, for better or for worse. Right,
Speaker 8: So I guess what I want to know is, first
Speaker 8: of all, who's the guy in the defense that can
Speaker 8: count to eleven? Second, who is the guy that does what?
Speaker 8: Jamar has at least shown a willingness to try to.
Speaker 3: Do and playing on teams before. It's one thing to
Speaker 3: say you're gonna be a leader. You have to be
Speaker 3: playing at a level to be a leader.
Speaker 7: Sure, Like Jake Browning can't do it now, Jake.
Speaker 3: Browne can't no offense, like if you're Genostone and you're like, hey,
Speaker 3: let's go, like the teams are gonna look at you
Speaker 3: and say you do it. Like I'm watching the film
Speaker 3: of you too, and it can't be Jake Browning like
Speaker 3: you said, because I'm watching Jake Browning play right Who
Speaker 3: Orlando brown Is it Ted Carris? Because I know Ted
Speaker 3: Carriss has all the cool sound bites and I love
Speaker 3: what he's done here in the city.
Speaker 7: But the performance is but the performance has been terrible.
Speaker 3: So if Ted Carris is is jumping down your throat
Speaker 3: on a Wednesday block your guy first, whoa yeah, wait
Speaker 3: a second? Brother, Like, So, I think that makes it
Speaker 3: very tough with what they're trying to accomplish right now.
Speaker 8: And what I think will be interesting, and I certainly
Speaker 8: hope it's not the scenario we encounter. What if they
Speaker 8: fall behind three scores today at home? Yeah, and now
Speaker 8: there's the snowball effect. And now it's okay, it's happening
Speaker 8: in our building. By the way, there's a bunch of
Speaker 8: Lions fans cheering and you're being booed by the home crowd.
Speaker 3: You got thirteen more of these.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what I'm curious. And again, I hope to
Speaker 8: god we don't even have to confront this. But what
Speaker 8: if this continues?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 8: Because to me, like folks are mad at Zach Taylor.
Speaker 8: Understandably so his team looked ill prepared. The one thing
Speaker 8: that for the most part, his teams haven't done. When
Speaker 8: there's been adversity, and there's been a lot, you haven't
Speaker 8: gotten the sense that the locker room is unraveling. You
Speaker 8: haven't gotten the sense that guys are making a lot
Speaker 8: of business decisions anecdotally, maybe one or two guys, Carlos
Speaker 8: Dunlap his second, maybe AJ Green his first.
Speaker 7: But that's what I think would be interesting.
Speaker 8: And again, man, hopefully today they pull off the upset
Speaker 8: and they win, they get a dose of confidence and
Speaker 8: they can still make something of this season. But what
Speaker 8: I would when we talk about, like a head coach
Speaker 8: in the NFL, I care about how prepared their teams
Speaker 8: are to play zachs last night was not prepared. But
Speaker 8: also how did your team respond in the face of adversity.
Speaker 8: For the most part, when Zack's been the head coach,
Speaker 8: maybe they haven't won, but they haven't unraveled. Do things
Speaker 8: start to unravel and did that begin last week in Denver.
Speaker 3: I think one of the most worrisome things that someone
Speaker 3: can say about your football team as a coach is
Speaker 3: they're soft. I think that's one of the most detrimental
Speaker 3: things you can say about a team, right And if
Speaker 3: you look at this team right now in the trenches,
Speaker 3: they're soft, yep, yep, And I think that is alarming,
Speaker 3: and that starts with your mindset, which starts with your
Speaker 3: coaching staff. So I look at those things and I
Speaker 3: know we're gonna talk about them soon. We watched the
Speaker 3: team in Clifton yesterday. They're not soft. No, They'll punch
Speaker 3: you in the mouth and they'll keep punching you in
Speaker 3: the mouth line and you can rally around that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm watching that, yes, and I'm saying, why can't we
Speaker 3: see more of that? Why can't And I get like, well,
Speaker 3: Pro Football focus doesn't have it. Okay, Well, can you
Speaker 3: develop somebody. Can you scheme somebody? I mean, we saw
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago Jamar Chase on a jet
Speaker 3: sweep nine yard carry. Have we seen it again? Have
Speaker 3: we seen anything that resembles like maybe a fake misdirection
Speaker 3: screen pass screen pass?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 3: When I say earlier, like what Detroit does mirrors each other.
Speaker 3: They'll put Amen Ross Saint Brown on that motion one time,
Speaker 3: they'll give it to him, and then a series later
Speaker 3: they'll come back and they'll play fake it to him,
Speaker 3: and they'll get Jamer Gibbs going opposite, and then they'll
Speaker 3: play fake to Saint Brown, and play fake to Gibbs
Speaker 3: and take a shot over the top to Jamison Williams,
Speaker 3: and then Sam Laporta is dominated. Like everything they do
Speaker 3: works off each other. Right, if you are a team
Speaker 3: that is soft upfront or schematically compromised, you better find
Speaker 3: ways to mirror.
Speaker 7: Different than schematically.
Speaker 8: It just feels to me like the offensive coaching staff
Speaker 8: has thrown up its hands as if to say, I
Speaker 8: don't know. And what's frustrating to me about that was
Speaker 8: and I talked about this on the air this week.
Speaker 8: In twenty twenty, they beat a two lost Pittsburgh team
Speaker 8: in December with Ryan Finley's quarterback. Yeah, and I remember
Speaker 8: talking with you the next day, going, you know what,
Speaker 8: good for Zach Taylor.
Speaker 7: He pieced it together.
Speaker 8: It wasn't great Ryan Finley completed seven passes, but they
Speaker 8: pieced it together. The Cleveland Browns today may lose this
Speaker 8: football game. They're up seventeen to fourteen under seven to go.
Speaker 8: In the fourth quarder, they turned things over to Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 8: That creates a lot of noise because Shador Sanders is
Speaker 8: not the guy they turned to.
Speaker 7: They have to travel to a.
Speaker 8: Different part of the world and play a good Minnesota defense.
Speaker 8: They have pieced it together. It helps that they have
Speaker 8: Quinn Shawn Jenkins, but they have pieced it together and
Speaker 8: they are functional. What what last week felt like to
Speaker 8: me was not only lack of preparation, but essentially the
Speaker 8: offensive coaching staff going, well, what can we do?
Speaker 3: You go a step further? What do we watch on
Speaker 3: Thursday night? Yeah? The Sancis one. I think Sean McVay
Speaker 3: is one of the best minds in football. But I
Speaker 3: watched mac Jones without Pearsall, without uh Iu, without Jennings,
Speaker 3: without Kittle, beat the Rams figured it out and figure
Speaker 3: it out. Mac Jones looked competent. You didn't realize if
Speaker 3: you didn't know that they're missing seventy percent.
Speaker 7: Of their offense on the road.
Speaker 3: Short Week found ways to get their one playmaker, like
Speaker 3: McVeigh smart, Rams are smart. If you go into that game,
Speaker 3: what do you think they're gonna take away? We gotta
Speaker 3: find a way to take Christian McCaffrey away. He's still
Speaker 3: dominated early in that game. How scheme? So don't tell
Speaker 3: me that you know Detroit's gonna take They're gonna take
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase away. Yeah, they're gonna take t Higgins away.
Speaker 3: They're gonna make someone else.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 8: But you know what's frustrating to me about that is
Speaker 8: that predates.
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow getting hurt.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because what was the conversation after the Cleveland game
Speaker 8: where they struggled offensively?
Speaker 7: Bad matchup? You know, the Browns just have sticky corners.
Speaker 8: So wait a minute, You've got these two all world
Speaker 8: wide receivers that you've paid, and you just shrug your
Speaker 8: shoulders and allowed the Cleveland Browns to say you can't
Speaker 8: throw the ball.
Speaker 3: Team. You don't get many opportunities to tea because we
Speaker 3: want to be in twelve persons.
Speaker 8: And that was like nobody wanted to talk about it
Speaker 8: because they won the game, and at the end of
Speaker 8: the day, that's that's all that matters, I guess. But
Speaker 8: in that game against the Browns, it felt like the
Speaker 8: Bengals said, Okay, okay, Jim Schwartz, Cleveland's defensive coordinator, Okay,
Speaker 8: you don't want us to throw to our wide receivers.
Speaker 3: Okay, we won't.
Speaker 8: That was alarming, and that's before Joe Burrow got hurt.
Speaker 3: But if that's the case, and in that game, when
Speaker 3: you win, if you're Jamar Chase, you sit back and say, Okay,
Speaker 3: at least we won. Yeah the last two weeks. No,
Speaker 3: if you're Jamar Chase and you're sitting back and you're
Speaker 3: not being utilized, and you watch Thursday night Football and
Speaker 3: you watch Justin Jefferson today have some success against the
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns, who you couldn't have success against. Now you're
Speaker 3: starting to think, wait a second. If I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: get mine and we're gonna be losing by twenty that's
Speaker 3: an issue. So I don't care what level of football.
Speaker 3: Every receiver in the history of the sport has done it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're going to start eventually saying it's time to get mine.
Speaker 11: Huh.
Speaker 3: I need to be a target, especially when we're playing
Speaker 3: this bad and if you don't, especially early in today's game,
Speaker 3: if you don't make it a point to get him
Speaker 3: and T Higgins involved, then I start to think you
Speaker 3: have sideline and locker rooms issues that start to come out.
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Speaker 8: Twenty three minutes after twelve o'clock four hours is two
Speaker 8: minutes away from kickoff. Downtown Cincinnati. We are broadcasting from
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Speaker 7: I'm just honored that you're here with me on your
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Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to my wife six years, six years,
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Speaker 8: Till three o'clock, Wayne box Miller countdown to kick off.
Speaker 8: I want to dive into what you spent a lot
Speaker 8: on time, a lot of time on social media on
Speaker 8: this week later on, which is Jake Browning against the
Speaker 8: Denver Broncos. But let's look ahead. I guess you know
Speaker 8: when Joe Burrow got hurt. Fair conversations about do you
Speaker 8: go find somebody else? They obviously have not with each
Speaker 8: passing week since the outside conversations about what they do
Speaker 8: at quarterback have intensified.
Speaker 3: Today.
Speaker 8: All right, if we see anything that looks like what
Speaker 8: we saw in the past two weeks, do you give
Speaker 8: Brett Ripping a shot?
Speaker 3: I can't believe we're having the conversation about giving Brett
Speaker 3: Ripping the shot, because well, the moment you and I
Speaker 3: talked after the Burrow injury. The side I've been on
Speaker 3: was go get a quarterback, not to have to start
Speaker 3: right away, but if the last two weeks went like
Speaker 3: they did, because if you go get a quarterback right away,
Speaker 3: a proven quarterback, the last two weeks, they've been getting
Speaker 3: up to speed, and now you at least give yourself
Speaker 3: a chance today in some lions. Okay, he's had two
Speaker 3: weeks to get in this. I don't care who it is,
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston, Kirk Cousins at Joe Flacke. I
Speaker 3: don't care who you say, but they would have had
Speaker 3: two weeks in the system. You've waited, and now if
Speaker 3: you were to bring somebody in, you've got to allow
Speaker 3: more build up. I was shocked, first of all to
Speaker 3: hear Zach Taylor this week say I've got the utmost
Speaker 3: confidence in Jake Browning. I don't believe him. I don't
Speaker 3: believe him, and I don't believe that the locker room
Speaker 3: does after watching the last two weeks.
Speaker 7: And that's probably a bigger deal.
Speaker 3: And that's the issue because now you've probably got guys
Speaker 3: saying what he just said, confidence and who like the
Speaker 3: utmost confidence. So clearly what they're doing with Jake browning's
Speaker 3: not working. I guess if that's next in line, you
Speaker 3: give Ripping a chance. But I feel like you could
Speaker 3: have been more proactive weeks ago and giving yourself a
Speaker 3: better opportunity going into today.
Speaker 8: What's interesting to me is like there's pushback when you
Speaker 8: mentioned any of those guys.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I.
Speaker 8: Like, all right, you're you're not gonna trade for Josh Allen. Okay,
Speaker 8: you're gonna get a guy who's not starting in the
Speaker 8: NFL right now, but you have at least got to
Speaker 8: present yourself options that are possibly better than what you have.
Speaker 8: We were in the office that first day after Burrow
Speaker 8: got hurt, and our colleague Austin Elmore asked about I
Speaker 8: think it was I think it was Russell Wilson, Yeah,
Speaker 8: because he had just lost his job starting job with
Speaker 8: the New York Giants, so I guess it might have
Speaker 8: been a week after the Burrow injury. And I said, yes,
Speaker 8: he goes you think he's better than Browning? Then I go, probably,
Speaker 8: but he's better than Brett Rippon. Yeah, right, so start
Speaker 8: there is there a guy who's better than your backup
Speaker 8: option for the dude you're gonna go ahead with because
Speaker 8: you want a better backup option if the guy you're
Speaker 8: gonna go ahead with isn't good enough and you have
Speaker 8: time to pull the trigger and you do.
Speaker 3: I'll say it about Russell Wilson, him in particular. Yeah,
Speaker 3: his numbers might not have been great over the last
Speaker 3: couple of years. I watched him in Cincinnati last year,
Speaker 3: look fine by the way. First a couple of weeks
Speaker 3: ago with the before he got bench with the Giants,
Speaker 3: he through for four fifty in a game, his career high. Right,
Speaker 3: what I know about him, He'll take shots to your dudes.
Speaker 3: He'll give him opportunities. I might be double coverage at times,
Speaker 3: but he'll throw the ball down the field and let
Speaker 3: him go get it right. I just we've not seen
Speaker 3: that from Jake. And what I watched on tape last
Speaker 3: week was a quarterback that's not reading the right direction.
Speaker 3: Quarterback that's not making the right decisions. And when you're
Speaker 3: going away from your guys and they're open, then what
Speaker 3: do you start to see on film? Guys are throwing
Speaker 3: their hands up, Guys are frustrated as the pass drops
Speaker 3: and stopping the routes, stopping their routes. Uh, you see
Speaker 3: the looks, the blank looks on the sideline as they're
Speaker 3: sitting on the bench. It's just all things as a
Speaker 3: former quarterback at a different level as a former quarterback.
Speaker 3: If you see your guys like that, immediately like I
Speaker 3: got to make sure I get him the ball or
Speaker 3: else they're going to check out out and then you're
Speaker 3: gonna miss a lot.
Speaker 8: Well, And I know the position is different, but there
Speaker 8: are other guys who were bench last week. Yeah, like
Speaker 8: Dalton Reisman had the CAF issue but was sidelined because
Speaker 8: he hasn't been good enough. And Cam Taylor Britt was
Speaker 8: taken out of last week's game because he's.
Speaker 7: Not been good enough.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 8: And I believe Logan Wilson's workload has been reduced because
Speaker 8: he's not been good enough. So there's a part of
Speaker 8: me that's like, if I'm on that team, all right, cool,
Speaker 8: you got all these other dudes who have struggled, you're
Speaker 8: benching them, which you should.
Speaker 7: But not this guy.
Speaker 3: Right. It just it creates whispers and conversations in the
Speaker 3: locker room, and that's how those fractures start. And the
Speaker 3: more you get into those if enough of those start,
Speaker 3: then the whole foundation starts to tumble around you, and
Speaker 3: then you've got a whole nother problem on your hands.
Speaker 8: All right, we were gonna pick the one o'clock games
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Speaker 8: Cincinnati sports on their shoulders jump with a win over
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Speaker 30: Two teams trending in opposite directions meet today at Paeycorp
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Speaker 8: four twenty five in London. Carson Wentz has just taken
Speaker 8: the Minnesota Vikings on a ten play, eighty yard drive
Speaker 8: that finished with a Jordan Addison twelve yard touchdown reception,
Speaker 8: Vikings figuring out ways to exploit those Cleveland corners which
Speaker 8: the Bengals couldn't do. Minnesota has taken a four point
Speaker 8: lead twenty one seventeen, which twenty five seconds to go
Speaker 8: in London. A Minnesota victory would send them to three
Speaker 8: and two. Cleveland in danger of falling to one and
Speaker 8: four Vikings about to kick off. We'll keep you up
Speaker 8: to date. We are gonna pick all the one o'clock games.
Speaker 8: Obviously lots more on the Bengals and Lions. But Tony,
Speaker 8: first of all, we're gonna talk about the Bearcat game
Speaker 8: that you did color for and number one, you did
Speaker 8: an awesome job nights second game number two, I think
Speaker 8: we would both be remiss we talked about our friend
Speaker 8: Jim Kelly on the air yesterday. The UC legend has
Speaker 8: decided to not do games for the rest of the
Speaker 8: season as he wages a fight that.
Speaker 7: We all rooting, are all rooting for him in against cancer.
Speaker 8: We love Jim. We talked about him on the air yesterday.
Speaker 8: You have filled his shoes capably, but certainly asking everybody
Speaker 8: in our audience to send one wishes to Jim and
Speaker 8: his family.
Speaker 3: Yeah. As great as he's been for the University of Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: I said yesterday, and for the football program and the
Speaker 3: excellence that comes with the Kelly name, it's what Jim
Speaker 3: is as an actual person. Yes, that's even more impressive.
Speaker 3: And you know, as much as our road trips, like
Speaker 3: I missed Jim in the booth, I also miss being
Speaker 3: able to go out and have dinner and a couple
Speaker 3: of drinks with Jim, no doubt on the road that
Speaker 3: was one of the best parts to me that that
Speaker 3: we get to do with our job is spend time
Speaker 3: with him like that. Yeah, we miss him. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: they've done well the last two weeks.
Speaker 8: They've done well by Jim, no doubt about it. Thirty
Speaker 8: eight to thirty victory over Iowa State. I think the
Speaker 8: Bearcats might be pretty good.
Speaker 3: Man. I don't know if I've seen a better first
Speaker 3: half of football in a long time.
Speaker 7: Uh huh against a good opponent, well coached.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if I've seen a more dominant
Speaker 3: offensive line showing in a first half yep, in a
Speaker 3: long time. And it's so backwards because we watch that
Speaker 3: and then we talk about what this old line does
Speaker 3: or doesn't do. For the Cincinnati Bengals, they play with attitude,
Speaker 3: They play with toughness, they play with physicalness, and on
Speaker 3: a smaller level of what you see here with Gibbs
Speaker 3: and Montgomery, they have that with Walker and Pryor in
Speaker 3: their running game, and all of a sudden, these receivers
Speaker 3: are getting open. Joe Royer is as good in the
Speaker 3: running game as he is in the passing game receiving
Speaker 3: Soresby's playing with a ton of confidence. It's just it's
Speaker 3: a lot, a lot of fun to see how it's
Speaker 3: all coming together. And as bad as it felt at times,
Speaker 3: defense got the stops in the second half when they
Speaker 3: needed him, when it felt like the offense was sputtering
Speaker 3: a little bit. Yeah, the defense carried the load, which
Speaker 3: I didn't know if they were capable of at that
Speaker 3: point yet.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure the thirty points that Iowa State scored
Speaker 8: is totally indicative of how good, Yeah, Cincinnati's defense was,
Speaker 8: because it was good when it had to be, When
Speaker 8: the offense was kind of stuck in the mud and
Speaker 8: Iowa States trying to come back, the defense got repeated stops.
Speaker 8: I'll say this about Brendon Sorosby, and you talked about
Speaker 8: it a lot during the broadcast yesterday.
Speaker 7: I didn't think he was great.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but you watch a lot of quarterbacks who when
Speaker 8: they're not having a great day and they have to
Speaker 8: make a throw, they don't on third and eight to
Speaker 8: Caleb Goody for the eighty two yard touchdown, which at
Speaker 8: least allowed everybody to breathe a sigh of relief.
Speaker 7: He drops an absolute time.
Speaker 3: It is so hard, as someone once throwing four interceptions
Speaker 3: in a BCS game you did. No, It's impossible when
Speaker 3: things aren't going your way to just be like, all right,
Speaker 3: fucking good now. Yeah. Yeah. And the fact that he
Speaker 3: missed opportunities yesterday, and the running game was so effective,
Speaker 3: you knew the opportunities were there to come back at
Speaker 3: the end of the game when it felt like you
Speaker 3: don't want to punt it back to Iowa State and
Speaker 3: have to have your defense out there. Drops an absolute
Speaker 3: dime to Caleb Goody. Is remarkable, and they overcame that.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever seen seven straight penalties called.
Speaker 3: They overcame that.
Speaker 8: What a way the way the penalty on Matthew McDoom,
Speaker 8: the pass interference right before the half that kind of
Speaker 8: opened the door garbage, was an atrocious call. The wide
Speaker 8: receiver is coming down the field grabbing Matthew's face mask.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Logan Wilson late the penalty that show on
Speaker 3: him when the receiver was trying to run, Yes, like
Speaker 3: didn't pick him up in body slam him, just took
Speaker 3: him to the ground. Yeah, it was. It was insane.
Speaker 3: But what I like most about it we built it
Speaker 3: up as a big deal this week because the Bengals
Speaker 3: are struggling because the Reds were eliminated, and we thought,
Speaker 3: man if if there was ever a time for uc
Speaker 3: to grab hold of the city, here comes a fourteenth
Speaker 3: ranked team. Yeah, you're building Knippert Stadium sold out. Environment's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Great to deliver the way they did and were dominant,
Speaker 3: and they had to overcome adversity everything. They checked off
Speaker 3: back to back wins like they did. Kansas went on
Speaker 3: the road and beat uc APP last week. That's your
Speaker 3: next opponent. Just extremely extremely impressive on so many levels.
Speaker 7: The game got weird at the end.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Cincinnati was trying to run out the clock. They
Speaker 8: call it run play on first down. They took a
Speaker 8: knee on second. Then it was like they realized, I'll
Speaker 8: wait a minute, the game's not over and called a
Speaker 8: running play like that was weird. Iowa State also their
Speaker 8: last offensive play, they're throwing some laterals and the like.
Speaker 8: Probably wouldn't have worked, but I don't know. They were
Speaker 8: having some success. They lateral to a tight end. He
Speaker 8: just walks out of like.
Speaker 3: Literally, it was the most casual walk out of bounds ever.
Speaker 3: That tight end. Was like, nah, these are my stats.
Speaker 3: I'm taking these stats. Did you have any issue with
Speaker 3: the field rush? No? I love a field rush. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because people, well, you're right, some fort ranked team in
Speaker 3: the country and this fan base has been waiting to
Speaker 3: rally and celebrate and now it's already started. Yes, now
Speaker 3: it's let's do it again. Next Saturday. Yeah, let's do
Speaker 3: it again. Let's let's keep this rolling and let's see
Speaker 3: where this can go. It. It's remarkable growing up here,
Speaker 3: and you've seen it when you see as playing at
Speaker 3: a better, higher level. It's just a different vibe around
Speaker 3: the city, in a different feel. And I'm seeing more
Speaker 3: now when I'm out in places, people wanting to talk
Speaker 3: about not the Rets, not the Bengals. Man, how about
Speaker 3: that UC game? I think that about.
Speaker 8: I think that Kansas game made people perk up. But
Speaker 8: all right, people have perked up and they're paying attention
Speaker 8: and again, like and all that goes away if you
Speaker 8: lose yesterday, they they didn't just win and the game
Speaker 8: got closer than it should have been.
Speaker 7: They played really well.
Speaker 8: Like that looks like a well coached, well put together
Speaker 8: football team. I'm not crazy enough to think they're gonna
Speaker 8: run the table. I'm not stupid enough to think that
Speaker 8: they They still don't have some heavy lifting to do.
Speaker 8: But to tell you what, in the aftermath of the
Speaker 8: Nebraska game, when Brendan Soresby threw for sixty nine yards
Speaker 8: to now, I think my expectation for the season has changed.
Speaker 8: The schedule is reasonably favorable, the league top to bottom
Speaker 8: isn't awesome. This could be a very good season. And
Speaker 8: I'll also say this man, you talk with him every week.
Speaker 8: Scott Sadefield earned a lot of skepticism, both you know,
Speaker 8: with the way he was hired, but also the previous
Speaker 8: two years.
Speaker 7: I'm happy for him. His team is enjoying some success.
Speaker 3: Loves him.
Speaker 7: He's handled himself in a first class manner.
Speaker 3: Think about what you want. I'm in the locker room.
Speaker 3: Those guys love him, man, I love him. I also think,
Speaker 3: like if I'm sitting here today, I think Texas Tech
Speaker 3: right now is the best team in the Big twelve.
Speaker 3: Agreed else and is probably good. You don't play Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: You get BYU in your building. You gotta go to Utah,
Speaker 3: which will be tough, but Baylor's here, TCU's here, TCUs
Speaker 3: on the road, but I think Baylor will be the
Speaker 3: next toughest GID. That's that's in your building. It is
Speaker 3: a favorable schedule, and you don't want to look too
Speaker 3: far ahead. You got to take care of business against UCF.
Speaker 3: We know what that game has been like the last
Speaker 3: couple of years. And if you do that and you
Speaker 3: take care of Oklahoma State come back home against Baylor
Speaker 3: with the potential to be four to oh homecoming rockets environment,
Speaker 3: and it's exciting right now to talk about UC football.
Speaker 7: They're one throw away from being five.
Speaker 3: And oh yeah, not even a throw a throw away.
Speaker 3: It's frustrating thing. They complete it, Yeah, got it away,
Speaker 3: kick the field going. Who knows what happens in overtime?
Speaker 7: Fourteen away from one o'clock.
Speaker 8: By the way, Vikings hold on to beat the Browns
Speaker 8: twenty one to seventeen. So the Cleveland Browns follow a
Speaker 8: one in four. That's what we sent to London. Yeah,
Speaker 8: Dylan Gabriel threw a couple of touchdowns in his NFL debut,
Speaker 8: but Carson Wentz throws the go ahead touchdown pass with
Speaker 8: less than a half a minute ago. The Vikings improved two,
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Speaker 3: Detroit Lions.
Speaker 15: Uh.
Speaker 3: You mentioned their success over over their last three games
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty four points. I've been amazed and
Speaker 3: watching them function, and I thought, and I do think
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson is a genius.
Speaker 7: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: You lose a guy like that, and everyone started to
Speaker 3: wonder like, oh if can Jared Golf succeed with not
Speaker 3: after the first game. Yeah, yeah, And now everyone's bought
Speaker 3: back in. They're functioning at a high level. Not the
Speaker 3: greatest time you wanted this, Detroit. Remember when the schedule
Speaker 3: came out, You're like, maybe you get him early because
Speaker 3: of new coordinators. It feels like they're right in their
Speaker 3: stride right now offensively and one of the hottest teams
Speaker 3: in the league.
Speaker 8: All right, let's start the one o'clock games by talking
Speaker 8: about one of the two four to no teams in
Speaker 8: the NFL. That's the Philadelphia Eagles, who are undefeated. They
Speaker 8: haven't won a game by more than one score. They've
Speaker 8: got to figure out way to unearth A. J. Brown,
Speaker 8: who has twenty seven receiving yards, are fewer in three
Speaker 8: of their four games.
Speaker 7: Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 8: They won last week without him completing a pass and
Speaker 8: the second half. Philly is at home today laying three
Speaker 8: and a half points against the Broncos.
Speaker 3: I don't know how you go against Philly until they
Speaker 3: prove the otherwise. Agreed. They find ways to win in
Speaker 3: so many ways. And it feels like the Philly way,
Speaker 3: like Hurt struggled a little bit in the second half.
Speaker 16: A J.
Speaker 3: Brown feels like he's upset. Hurts'll find him like nine
Speaker 3: times a day for one hundred and twenty yards and
Speaker 3: a touchdown. And I wasn't overly impressed with BOONEX and
Speaker 3: Denver last week.
Speaker 8: No, that was the thing about that game, Like it
Speaker 8: was twenty eight to three. You're thinking, God, the Broncos
Speaker 8: must have been really good. Now, I didn't think that
Speaker 8: was the case, not at all. All Right, I'll take Philly.
Speaker 8: I'll lay the three and a half points. That city
Speaker 8: reeling after the Phillies blew an early three nothing lead
Speaker 8: last night against the Dodgers. Uh, I'm glad I'm not
Speaker 8: watching this one. The Saints are in home, laying two
Speaker 8: against the Giants. Spencer Rattler, oh and ten is the
Speaker 8: starting quarterback.
Speaker 3: I mean, what kind of leash do you get? Obviously,
Speaker 3: I thought there were so many good things about Jackson
Speaker 3: Dart last week. Huh, but the loss of elite neighbors?
Speaker 3: How do you overcome that? Right? With that offense? But
Speaker 3: New Orleans has been that bad. I'll take the Giants.
Speaker 8: I'm actually gonna go the other way. They have led
Speaker 8: for all of four four minutes this season. Okay, they're
Speaker 8: laying two at home. Okay, Jackson Dart was fine last week.
Speaker 8: His one touchdown pass was a shovel pass, which shouldn't
Speaker 8: count job pass making a comeback. I'll take the Saints,
Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys coming off the forty all tie on the
Speaker 8: road against the Jets or zero to four laying two.
Speaker 7: And a half.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of Dallas. I don't
Speaker 3: know what to make of the Jets, but I feel
Speaker 3: like the Jets are close with Aaron Glenn. They've been competitive, yes,
Speaker 3: and a lot of their losses. I'll take the Jets
Speaker 3: and Justin Fields to get it done today.
Speaker 8: Dallas has allowed the second most number of rushes of
Speaker 8: fifteen yards or more by opposing quarterbacks justin fields breaks
Speaker 8: a few Today, I'll take the points with the Jets.
Speaker 8: Indy at Home is laying a touchdown against Las Vegas,
Speaker 8: and the backstory of this game is one of the
Speaker 8: more bizarre stories I've ever seen, and I don't want
Speaker 8: to make too much light of it, but if you
Speaker 8: have not followed the Mark Sanchez story, he was in
Speaker 8: town to call the Colts game for Fox and got
Speaker 8: stabbed and he's in stable condition, but he has been
Speaker 8: arrested for apparently provoking the incident that led to him
Speaker 8: getting stabbed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's like the report happens, and there's
Speaker 3: so many people out there like such a great guy,
Speaker 3: couldn't find anyone nicer prayers to Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 7: This is what you get for walking around downtown.
Speaker 3: And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, We're actually looking
Speaker 3: into Mark Sanchez. And then it's we're arresting Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 3: I guess with all that going on, you gotta leave
Speaker 3: the whole team.
Speaker 8: I got nothing, I go a bizarre story. So Vegas
Speaker 8: has lost their left tackle. I think that's gonna hurt
Speaker 8: their ability to get asked, and genty going and Gino
Speaker 8: Smith has already thrown seven picks. I think that is
Speaker 8: a blowout in India. I'll take the Colts Baltimore with
Speaker 8: Cooper Rush and a thousand guys hurt laying a point
Speaker 8: and a half again at a point in a half
Speaker 8: at home against Houston.
Speaker 3: Gosh, I gotta take Houston. I was with you, we
Speaker 3: talked about this earlier. I thought Baltimore would still find
Speaker 3: a way. No Marlin Humphrey, now no Kyle Hamilton. I
Speaker 3: guess I'll take Houston. Still got Terrick Henry, Yeah, although
Speaker 3: they don't give him the ball much.
Speaker 8: It's gonna get weird for John Harball if they fall
Speaker 8: to one and five. Absolute Super Bowl aspirations. You look
Speaker 8: like the best roster in the NFL. Even after that
Speaker 8: first game. Yep, the Dolphins are laying a point on
Speaker 8: the road against Carolina.
Speaker 3: I'm not going against Carolina. This is a uh, this
Speaker 3: is a Bryce Young get right game. Carolina Panthers rally
Speaker 3: in this one. I like uh. I like Carolina. They
Speaker 3: are so weird, Like they beat Atlanta thirty to nothing
Speaker 3: and then they'll lay an egg. I think they do
Speaker 3: enough to day to get it done against Miami without
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 8: I think their coach is weird. Bryce Young, I don't
Speaker 8: think has progressed. And I think the Dolphins, I certainly
Speaker 8: don't want to make light of a guy's injury, but
Speaker 8: I think the Dolphins are weirdly better without Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 8: Jalen Waddell, Yeah, yeah, I think the Dolphins are weirdly
Speaker 8: better without him. I think they cover win the game
Speaker 8: out right, I'll I'll take the Fins.
Speaker 7: We will see.
Speaker 8: Uh, we have a lot of ground to cover between
Speaker 8: now and three o'clock. Bengal's hosting the Detroit Lions today
Speaker 8: at the venue originally known as Paul Brown Stadium, Cincinnati
Speaker 8: A ten and a half point.
Speaker 3: We don't have to look that yet, though, do we.
Speaker 8: We're gonna pick the four o'clock ready Sunday night game
Speaker 8: and the Monday night game at two thirty. I give
Speaker 8: you some time to kind of marinate on it. I
Speaker 8: give you some time to sort of figure it out.
Speaker 3: Well. You you started doing these, uh are pick'ems, and
Speaker 3: then I realized, because of the late start, that I
Speaker 3: have yet to set my lineup for my my weekly
Speaker 3: fantasy this week. Yeah, but you got to do that
Speaker 3: before the No, no, no, oh really no, this is
Speaker 3: a week okay, but seam looks terrible, just terrible. Jim
Speaker 3: Morin's in the house, hopefully staying in the house as
Speaker 3: you might expect, hopefully not going down the street as well.
Speaker 3: Has there ever been a worst track record.
Speaker 8: To travel to One of the owners and proprietors of
Speaker 8: this establishment went to Minneapolis two weeks ago and I
Speaker 8: think was on a plane before the game ended, and
Speaker 8: then he said I'm going down And then he was
Speaker 8: with us in Denver last week and he made it
Speaker 8: three He made it longer than I wanted to. He
Speaker 8: he left in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: I sat up a text to day, I get credit
Speaker 3: to him because he's going back today, so he's gonna
Speaker 3: ride it to the wheels.
Speaker 7: Followed the definition of die hard right there.
Speaker 3: I respect it.
Speaker 7: The definition of die hard right there.
Speaker 3: It's the definition of something, but I respect all of it.
Speaker 3: Jim is a lot of things.
Speaker 8: The most loyal and passionate Cincinnati sports fan is very
Speaker 8: high on that list, there's no question about it. And
Speaker 8: owns and runs a bar here which reflects as much. Yes,
Speaker 8: and it's awesome of him to have him with us here.
Speaker 3: It's also nice of him to have us here all
Speaker 3: the time, every single week.
Speaker 8: There's no question about it. It is and we're gonna
Speaker 8: dive into the game itself.
Speaker 3: We've got a couple of minutes. This was a game.
Speaker 8: This is the most expensive regular season ticket in the
Speaker 8: history of the Bengals franchise. Yeah, and I'm not talking
Speaker 8: like secondary markets, StubHub stuff like that.
Speaker 7: This was a game that I think everybody looked at it.
Speaker 3: Look.
Speaker 8: I get it, maybe to a degree, you're trying to
Speaker 8: price out fans of the other team, but you knew
Speaker 8: there were gonna be a lot of Lions fans here today.
Speaker 8: This was one of those games I think is a
Speaker 8: football fan you looked at before the season started and said,
Speaker 8: I'm going to watch those two offenses. I want to
Speaker 8: watch those two teams play against each other and maybe
Speaker 8: we'll see it again in Santa Clara in February. And
Speaker 8: so I hate that the Bengals are where they are
Speaker 8: for a lot of different reasons, but it's taking the
Speaker 8: shine off of this game to a large degree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, if you like you mentioned not just even
Speaker 3: if you're a Lions and Bengals fan. When the schedule
Speaker 3: came out. If you're a fan of football, you're like,
Speaker 3: holy cow, I get that. Ver's that four to twenty
Speaker 3: five start? Yes, sign me up for everything. It's just
Speaker 3: it couldn't have gone worse so far for the Bengals,
Speaker 3: and here you are now. It couldn't happen at a
Speaker 3: worse time for this fireposs Like, why couldn't the Saints
Speaker 3: be on the schedule? Yeah, this week?
Speaker 8: The thing is like it could have gone worse because frankly,
Speaker 8: they should have lost the Cleveland game and they're a
Speaker 8: shaky p I call away from losing the Jacksonville game,
Speaker 8: like they're lucky to be two and two.
Speaker 3: Yep. I just I'm sewing, and I know we'll get
Speaker 3: into it as we go. I'm just so interested in
Speaker 3: the fight today, Yes, because the fight's not been there
Speaker 3: for two weeks.
Speaker 8: I'm interested. Not so much in the fight when the
Speaker 8: game starts. I'm interested in the fight when things start
Speaker 8: to go wrong.
Speaker 3: We're down ten, you're down two scores.
Speaker 8: It invariably is gonna happen at some point against an
Speaker 8: opponent of this calendar. All Right, we will get you
Speaker 8: set up for what's happening today. Counten to kickoff takes
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Speaker 7: Come on, I think it till like four o'clock in
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Speaker 8: Come on, I think that's that's how deep they go
Speaker 8: after Why not all the way till four am? Let's
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Speaker 8: The one o'clock games are underway, six of them. We
Speaker 8: will keep you up today. If you are headed downtown
Speaker 8: asking yourself self, where do we go? Where do we
Speaker 8: post up? The answer is obvious, the Holy Grail. If
Speaker 8: you're looking for a place to watch the game today,
Speaker 8: it's going to be a great atmosphere. Yes, we have
Speaker 8: a lot of our friends from Detroit here, but we're
Speaker 8: having fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it seemed nice so far.
Speaker 8: Bengals and Lions, I think there's a kinship there, Like
Speaker 8: we're kind of both tortured fan bases, both teams are cats,
Speaker 8: we're both in the Midwestern part of the country. Sure,
Speaker 8: you know, up until a couple of years ago, the
Speaker 8: Lions hadn't won a playoff game since like nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 8: The Bengals hadn't won a playoff game since nineteen ninety
Speaker 8: So I think there's some commonality there.
Speaker 7: Yes, and we'll see.
Speaker 3: Things just seem to be going a little bit better
Speaker 3: for their fans right now.
Speaker 7: Than ours at the moment. Yes, yeah, at the moment yet,
Speaker 7: but it's.
Speaker 3: A long year. We got thirteen weeks left. We have
Speaker 3: thirteen weeks left, thirteen games. Is that good or bad?
Speaker 3: I asked me tomorrow.
Speaker 8: But I think that's the thing about what happened against
Speaker 8: Denver is a lot of us walked away from that game,
Speaker 8: not so much thinking about two and two or the loss,
Speaker 8: but how bad might this get because of who they
Speaker 8: play in the coming weeks.
Speaker 3: Well, the Denver game you looked at and you said, okay,
Speaker 3: five turnovers, game got out of hand at Minnesota, right,
Speaker 3: Jake Browning's trying to get his footing. All right, wait
Speaker 3: and see what happens at Denver because they've not been dominant, right,
Speaker 3: They've not been over the top great. So the demoralizing
Speaker 3: part about Denver they didn't turn the ball over, they
Speaker 3: didn't kill themselves and penalties, and it didn't feel like
Speaker 3: Denver was dominant. Like, if you walk out of that game,
Speaker 3: you're like, man, Denver might be a contender. I didn't.
Speaker 3: That's the most demoralizing. You and I talk going into
Speaker 3: the game, Denver kind of feels like the swing game.
Speaker 3: Find a way to win start talking yourself into something
Speaker 3: going on this season, lose and now you're kind of
Speaker 3: trying to get your footing back. It feels like they
Speaker 3: can't find their footing right now, which is dangerous.
Speaker 8: So Zach Taylor took and I think deserved a lot
Speaker 8: of criticism for how his team played on Monday Night.
Speaker 8: I think the thing though, that stood out to me
Speaker 8: was watching that game, and obviously to a large degree,
Speaker 8: the Minnesota game, our fears about the roster have come true.
Speaker 8: Like the Bengals did a lot less in this offseason
Speaker 8: than we thought they would coming in. Like you and
Speaker 8: I do a show every Monday during the football season.
Speaker 8: Our last show was the day after the Bengals season ended,
Speaker 8: when the Broncos beat the Chiefs to take that playoff spot,
Speaker 8: and we talked about how the offseason should unfold, and
Speaker 8: we discussed a lot of position groups, but frankly, they
Speaker 8: did not address And so, all right, Zach gets heat.
Speaker 7: For his roster not being prepared, and that's fine.
Speaker 8: I'm looking at Duke Tobin's job performance going you put
Speaker 8: this together, you put this team together, You let that
Speaker 8: secondary go completely unaddressed. And yet there's Cam Taylor, Britt
Speaker 8: getting benched again. There's Geno Stone playing poorly again. You
Speaker 8: looked at that defensive line and it's not that you
Speaker 8: didn't make some changes.
Speaker 7: You brought in TJ.
Speaker 8: Slayton. But you look at the defensive line getting pushed around.
Speaker 8: You see the lack of pass rush which continues. Shamar
Speaker 8: Stewart not being healthy doesn't help.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 7: Look at the offensive line.
Speaker 8: They've tried Lucas Patrick, huh huh, Dalton Reisner uh uh.
Speaker 8: Now it's Jalen Rivers turn. He's the starting guard. You
Speaker 8: didn't make sufficient improvements to the offensive line. Your quarterback
Speaker 8: has hurt again, and I guess the thing for me, Tony,
Speaker 8: when I look at the roster. You can beat up
Speaker 8: on the Bengals for keeping Jamar Chase and T Higgins.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure who else on this team. Yeah, you
Speaker 8: look at it and go, we got a stash money
Speaker 8: away to pay that guy Mo.
Speaker 3: If the season was over today and you're looking at
Speaker 3: next year, how many core pieces would you want back
Speaker 3: that you couldn't live without. I couldn't get to eight
Speaker 3: this week. I could.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure I can get to five.
Speaker 3: Because you start like Joe Jamar t Okay who won
Speaker 3: the defense? Would you say, flat out right now, we
Speaker 3: can't live without none? Maybe Schamar, but I've seen him once.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I have no clue.
Speaker 3: Rico McPherson, like, I don't even know what that looks
Speaker 3: like going forward. Now, that's how depleted this roster is.
Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting. Zach talked this week about,
Speaker 3: you know, Duke's done a good job of presenting us
Speaker 3: with options at quarterback. If we were to go that route,
Speaker 3: then why yeah, none of the options were good or
Speaker 3: you can't do like I want to know more about that.
Speaker 3: If options were given, why didn't like whose decision is
Speaker 3: it to say no or yes? We want that? Because
Speaker 3: that that to me what it goes down to. You
Speaker 3: want to talk about a miss Watch the guy up
Speaker 3: front today for Detroit, guy that you and I talked
Speaker 3: about a lot. Take rattles. Uh huh. We talked a
Speaker 3: ton leading up to the draft. They got him in
Speaker 3: the second round.
Speaker 7: He looks like a five year pro.
Speaker 3: He looks like a maller uh huh, like a guy
Speaker 3: who's gonna buy at your ankles. He looks like what
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell coaches. Uh huh. And you and I sat
Speaker 3: on this stage at the draft and talked about in
Speaker 3: the second round, you gotta go get him out of Georgia. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you gotta go get him. They passed. I don't really
Speaker 3: know about Fairchild yet, but I know watching him and
Speaker 3: watching this Lion's offense, watch him today, watch how good
Speaker 3: in dominant he is.
Speaker 7: And that game last week.
Speaker 8: And I hate to sound like I'm picking on the two,
Speaker 8: but like Cam Taylor, Britt got benched again, not the
Speaker 8: first time, not the second time, got benched again. Yeah,
Speaker 8: Gino Stone last week, I watched him take more to.
Speaker 3: Take a pay cut. Hey, we want money back, but
Speaker 3: you're gonna be a starter.
Speaker 8: So if I owned the team, Duke Tobin would have
Speaker 8: been in my office on Tuesday morning answering the question,
Speaker 8: why did we decide not only to keep those guys,
Speaker 8: but not have anybody in our back pocket to replace him?
Speaker 8: Like last year's secondary was atrocious, but they literally did
Speaker 8: not add a corner or a safety in either free
Speaker 8: agency or the draft.
Speaker 3: How But your answer, if you're the organization to everything,
Speaker 3: has always been, as long as we have Joe, we're okay. Right,
Speaker 3: as long as we have Joe, we can overcome a
Speaker 3: porous defense because now we got out golden. But the
Speaker 3: fact is they didn't address the offensive line to protect Joe. Right, So,
Speaker 3: if you're gonna go into an offseason and say, look,
Speaker 3: we can't put a ton of the defense when we
Speaker 3: got al Golden, who's gonna help us. We got a
Speaker 3: new O line coach that's gonna help us, we got
Speaker 3: a new D line coach. Then at the very minimum,
Speaker 3: at the bare minimum, make sure your guy's protected.
Speaker 8: But then, like, all right, Duke Tobin, why can't you
Speaker 8: get the offensive line right? Yeah, you know it was
Speaker 8: in vogue two weeks ago when Joe got hurt to
Speaker 8: kind of blame Joe, And you know, I just thought
Speaker 8: that was ridiculous because I'm going, wait a minute. Even
Speaker 8: if you want to say Joe should dial back the
Speaker 8: hero ball, the reality is the Bengals have had a
Speaker 8: below average offensive line for a decade. Now, that conversation
Speaker 8: doesn't change just because you know, maybe you think Joe
Speaker 8: should adjust how he plays or what the offense is.
Speaker 8: I mean that there is the number one question, Duke,
Speaker 8: for a decade. Now, you have used draft choices, yeah,
Speaker 8: you have spent money in free agency, and yet we
Speaker 8: can't get this right on the offensive line, and it's
Speaker 8: not been because of lack of effort. They've tried, they
Speaker 8: haven't done it.
Speaker 3: And it's bizarre because he just doesn't speak ever. Right.
Speaker 7: He talks twice a year.
Speaker 3: Talks twice a year. So you get no answer, you
Speaker 3: get no path forward, you get no vision. It's hard.
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor gets the criticism that I think he deserves
Speaker 3: at times, but at the same time he takes a
Speaker 3: lot of the criticism that should be having to be
Speaker 3: answered from Duke Tobin. Right, but you don't hear. He
Speaker 3: just doesn't talk. He's gonna speak twice a year. That's
Speaker 3: what it is. But to your point, they've used and
Speaker 3: given him draft capital, they've given him money and free agency.
Speaker 3: They've still not got it right. They've given now three
Speaker 3: offensive line coaches. Uh huh, not got it right. Everyone
Speaker 3: last year piled onto lu Ana Rumo right, doing pretty
Speaker 3: well in indies so far with that defense.
Speaker 8: So I've been thinking about this a lot because the
Speaker 8: red season has come to an end and they've got
Speaker 8: a lot of work to do. Because you look at
Speaker 8: the team and go, Okay, who are the guys? Who
Speaker 8: are they now? There might be some guys here you go,
Speaker 8: these are it, but they didn't have great years last year.
Speaker 8: Or there's some players you want to bring back but
Speaker 8: maybe in lesser roles.
Speaker 7: Who are the guys I asked.
Speaker 8: The exact same thing about the Bengals. I know what
Speaker 8: Jamar Chase is, I know what T Higgins is, I
Speaker 8: know what Joe Burrow is. Who are the guys? Who
Speaker 8: are the guys that I have to have on the
Speaker 8: team next year? Tony, I cannot name for you two more?
Speaker 3: Is there a guy right now on the old line
Speaker 3: you want to you wanna be discouraged. Go look at
Speaker 3: the early grading for Mamrius Mems this year. I think
Speaker 3: past blocking. Last week he got an eighteen that was
Speaker 3: supposed to be the cornerstone. Uh huh, Orlando Brown, Junior,
Speaker 3: Dylan Fairchild, Jerry still out? Yeah, Harris So I'm talking?
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Ted Carris, Ted Carris, right, Like, are we
Speaker 3: really at the point where this team just misses Lucas Patrick?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 8: But then again, defensively they didn't. They were atrocious defensively
Speaker 8: last year. Their additions included t. J.
Speaker 3: Slayton.
Speaker 8: Yeah, oron Burt's who I don't think ever plays and
Speaker 8: that's it. Run back with Joseph O'SAI draft some guys,
Speaker 8: and I think Demetrius Knight has a lot of upside.
Speaker 8: I'm still willing to entertain the idea that Jamar Stewart's
Speaker 8: going to be pretty good. I mean, like I I
Speaker 8: I make a rookie class exempt from this conversation. But
Speaker 8: players who have been there, two, three, four Again, the
Speaker 8: poster child for this is Cam Taylor Britt. And then
Speaker 8: you look at the last three draft classes. You look
Speaker 8: at the last four draft classes now and you see
Speaker 8: the number of just flat out whiffs or the number
Speaker 8: of players you look at and go moving forward, I
Speaker 8: don't want the guy here anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and lay right.
Speaker 8: Jeraine Burton's gonna be an active today in all likelihood
Speaker 8: third round pick, right.
Speaker 3: Like Cam.
Speaker 8: I hate, I hate to pick on Cam Taylor Britt.
Speaker 8: But the reality is the last two years they have
Speaker 8: thought like that's that's one of our best defensive players
Speaker 8: CD one in many respects. Dude's been benched three times
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Speaker 8: for four to twenty five kickoff Bengals and the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 8: Theo Johnson a one yard touchdown pass from Jackson Dart.
Speaker 8: I don't know if it was a shovel pass, but
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Speaker 8: Saints in New Orleans five and a half minutes into
Speaker 8: the first quarter.
Speaker 3: There By the way, if you were wondering, we'll.
Speaker 8: Yesterday's UC whim propelled the Bearcats into the top twenty five.
Speaker 8: The AP Top twenty five pole I believe comes out tomorrow.
Speaker 8: It's not out yet. But in the coaches poll the
Speaker 8: Bearcats twenty eighth.
Speaker 3: We're getting there, climbing, We're getting there.
Speaker 7: They got no votes last week.
Speaker 3: Are they ahead of Penn State? Or is Penn State
Speaker 3: still getting votes after that atrocious loss yesterday?
Speaker 8: Penn State is ranked twenty second, fell sixteen spots. How
Speaker 8: do you rank them?
Speaker 3: That is the worst loss easily this year, without question?
Speaker 3: James Franklin, Man, is.
Speaker 8: There anybody that college football fans are more united around
Speaker 8: than not liking?
Speaker 3: James Franklin, No, I don't think so.
Speaker 8: I mean that includes Davos Twiney, It includes Brian Kelly,
Speaker 8: includes Tean Sanders, whose team is now oh and three
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Speaker 3: Uh? Let's go with Marius Mems today.
Speaker 7: Oh we have the same guy?
Speaker 3: Really, Yes, Well, it's everything I just I've mentioned before
Speaker 3: as great. Last week was awful.
Speaker 8: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: He's trending way in the wrong direction right now. And
Speaker 3: if you don't at least you start to look, Okay,
Speaker 3: what am I looking at going forward? If you don't
Speaker 3: see the improvement there, do we have to have the
Speaker 3: conversation again next year of you gotta get tackles, Mike,
Speaker 3: you gotta get another tackle, Mike gotta address center, gotta
Speaker 3: address guard like that was supposed to be the check
Speaker 3: mark man. We don't have to worry about right tackle now.
Speaker 3: If it doesn't get better, do you then have to
Speaker 3: worry about that again?
Speaker 8: Well, and you didn't mention the guy he's going to
Speaker 8: be trying to block today.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 7: Aiden Hutchinson, who.
Speaker 8: Leads the NFL in pressures, has four sacks and four games.
Speaker 8: Marius Mems gave up two last week. I was told
Speaker 8: by some of the tape bros. Tape wasn't that bad, dude,
Speaker 8: I trust my eyes. Mario's im stunk last week and
Speaker 8: look might have been a bad game, but like we
Speaker 8: do it differently with rookies, than we did twenty years ago.
Speaker 8: Right now here or two, especially for a first rounder,
Speaker 8: I gotta start to see it. He can't be a project.
Speaker 8: Marius Mimms did some really nice things his rookie season.
Speaker 8: By the end of this year, he's gonna be a
Speaker 8: building block. I don't think he's played like one yet.
Speaker 3: He's got to play himself into the If we have
Speaker 3: these conversations going forward, like, yeah, you can't go forward
Speaker 3: without Mems Right right now, I'm like, uh, I'll see. Maybe,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 8: I think it's gonna be devastating to this franchise if
Speaker 8: he ends up not being very good.
Speaker 7: He might not.
Speaker 8: He doesn't have to play to the level of a
Speaker 8: first rounder to be very good. I don't think JOHNA.
Speaker 8: Williams ever played like a first rounder. But you were
Speaker 8: fine with him at whatever position he was at. But
Speaker 8: if you knew what you have, if you're ever gonna
Speaker 8: have any elite offensive line, an elite offensive line, the
Speaker 8: only way that happens is if you mainly build it
Speaker 8: through the draft.
Speaker 7: If you look at their last elite.
Speaker 8: Offensive line, it was twenty fifteen, and it was a
Speaker 8: bunch of guys they drafted.
Speaker 3: Yep, it was the way you build it.
Speaker 8: It was Andrew Whitworth, it was Andre Smith, it was
Speaker 8: Clint Bowling, it was Kevin Zeitler.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 7: But you drafted. That's the only way it happens.
Speaker 3: But it was so much more than just drafted. It
Speaker 3: was developing those guys after you draft them. Sure, we
Speaker 3: can't say how great a Marius Mims looked last year
Speaker 3: and now wonder how is he not developed more this year?
Speaker 3: You just fired another offensive line coach. You got a
Speaker 3: new one in strike technique, glass eater, strike technique, bad matchups.
Speaker 3: All these words is just what I continue to hear
Speaker 3: over and over and over again, and nothing changes strike technique.
Speaker 8: It's because they don't have an organizational identity, correct. So like,
Speaker 8: I'll bring it back to the Detroit Lions. I thought
Speaker 8: the brain drain was going to be real, losing two coordinators.
Speaker 8: I've seen how hard that is, you know. I think
Speaker 8: Marvin Lewis's best coaching job in twenty fourteen, where he
Speaker 8: won ten games and tied one and made the postseason
Speaker 8: a year after he lost both Mike Zimmer and Jay Gruden.
Speaker 8: Like it's hard, yes, to lose both, but there's an
Speaker 8: organizational identity there and good roster building, neither of which
Speaker 8: I think are the case here right now.
Speaker 3: We've asked, now for over a year, does the identity
Speaker 3: in the scheme match the personnel?
Speaker 8: So let's talk about that, because you've brought this up
Speaker 8: a bunch. The best illustration is the usage of two
Speaker 8: tight ends when you have T Higgins on.
Speaker 3: The team, which I assumed twelve personnel, one running back,
Speaker 3: two tight ends, two wide receivers, Jamar and T. Right
Speaker 3: when Zach was asked about it, his answer was, well,
Speaker 3: we'll find ways to get at the tea. But we've
Speaker 3: been running so much twelve personnel. Okay, he's still on
Speaker 3: the field. We watched training camp. T was into the boundary,
Speaker 3: he was in the field, he was in the slot,
Speaker 3: he was going in motion. Huh you seeing any of that.
Speaker 3: He talked about wanting to do that. He talked about
Speaker 3: wanting to move, He talked about wanting to be more
Speaker 3: than just someone that lines up and goes. You can
Speaker 3: have two good wide receivers and two tight ends on
Speaker 3: the field and everyone still gets theirs. So but the
Speaker 3: thing goes back to me, you paid T. Higgins, but
Speaker 3: you also say you want to be a twelve personnel team,
Speaker 3: and you can't do both. According to Zach Taylor, I
Speaker 3: don't understand that. I don't understand it. But when we
Speaker 3: talk more in depth about does the personnel match the scheme, well,
Speaker 3: it felt like early in the season they wanted to
Speaker 3: be a run team. None of their offensive linemen are
Speaker 3: plus run blockers. They're all negative run blockers. They were
Speaker 3: in college and they were in the NFL. So you
Speaker 3: want to run the ball, but you got no one
Speaker 3: up front that is a dominant run player and you
Speaker 3: don't have the ability to scheme away around it. The
Speaker 3: personnel is so backwards and on the team you played today,
Speaker 3: it couldn't be more different. Everything about Detroit's person and
Speaker 3: l matches everything over the top threat, dynamic running game,
Speaker 3: good old line, tight end a'm and Ross Brown to
Speaker 3: do it all, aggressive defense. But you also know their
Speaker 3: identity is going to be tough. Their roster matches their
Speaker 3: scheme perfectly, so it doesn't here.
Speaker 8: When I think of identity, I think of you're not
Speaker 8: taking this away. You might get annoyed with me. Folks
Speaker 8: listening might get annoyed with me. I bring it back
Speaker 8: to the first game Jamar Chase and t Higgins in
Speaker 8: that game combined for five catches for fifty nine yards
Speaker 8: against the Browns. Do you know any catches Justin Jefferson
Speaker 8: had today?
Speaker 3: I know he had over one hundred yards.
Speaker 8: Seven catches for one hundred and twenty three yards, including
Speaker 8: a couple on that last drive with the backup quarterback.
Speaker 8: Carson wentz. So to me, your identity is, you're not
Speaker 8: taking this away. The Cincinnati Bengals in that first game said,
Speaker 8: go watch it, because I think they completed one pass
Speaker 8: outside the numbers. I texted you about it. They said, Okay,
Speaker 8: you got good corners.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 8: And again that's with Joe Burrow playing quarterback. You know, Okay,
Speaker 8: I guess we'll have to figure out another way. The
Speaker 8: Minnesota Vikings, with a backup quarterback and all sorts of
Speaker 8: flaws on offense, said, hey man, you guys got a
Speaker 8: good defense. Yeah, you're not taking number eighteen away. Our
Speaker 8: guys getting the ball. They didn't have eighteen catches, but
Speaker 8: our guys getting the ball.
Speaker 7: You're not taking him away.
Speaker 8: To me, the Bengals, the identity is all right, Well,
Speaker 8: decide how you want to play us, and then and
Speaker 8: then we'll figure screw that man, we're we're in his heyday.
Speaker 7: Not so much now.
Speaker 8: You and I used to talk about Travis Kelson where
Speaker 8: the Kansas City Chiefs would have plays where everybody in
Speaker 8: the stadium knew where it was going everybody and it
Speaker 8: didn't matter, you know, when they had Tyreek Hill or
Speaker 8: who were their.
Speaker 7: Other wide receivers were.
Speaker 8: You could watch a Chiefs game and say, all right,
Speaker 8: third and five, he's throwing it to eighty seven.
Speaker 7: You know it, we know it.
Speaker 8: Everybody were thrown to eighty seven, and they figured out
Speaker 8: away they would get him open. He's a Hall of
Speaker 8: Fame player, but still they would figure out a way
Speaker 8: to keep you from taking away what we do best.
Speaker 8: The Bengals what they do best. In a game this
Speaker 8: year said to the Cleveland Browns, oh, you.
Speaker 3: Took it away. That's cool, yeah, and then had no.
Speaker 7: Answer because they stunk running the ball.
Speaker 3: That that's the thing, Like, you can't take something away
Speaker 3: and then not have an answer to it. We talked
Speaker 3: for how many weeks a couple of years ago about
Speaker 3: Tampa two. M Oh, well they running at Tampa too,
Speaker 3: and you would have thought it was the newest defense
Speaker 3: in the NFL.
Speaker 7: They'd running thirteen guys on the field.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh, Tampa two. Tampa two can't operate around the
Speaker 3: Tampa too. It's exhausting that it's always about what the
Speaker 3: other team does.
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: You know, when that drive happened, I'm like, card, let's
Speaker 3: get to half. And then as it started to unfold,
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, they're gonna they're gonna have to
Speaker 3: They're gonna do a long field goal attempt. And then
Speaker 3: they scored a touchdown.
Speaker 7: So I most probably don't need a refresher.
Speaker 8: But the end of the first half last week, the
Speaker 8: Broncos are driving, Demetrius Night makes a really nice play
Speaker 8: in the end zone, and if it's incomplete, the Bengals
Speaker 8: get the ball back at like the two, but instead
Speaker 8: it comes back out to the twenty minute forty five
Speaker 8: to go. I think two timeouts, Yes, minute forty five
Speaker 8: to go, two timeouts. You're down by eleven and I'm
Speaker 8: thinking get three here, let's go regroup.
Speaker 3: Down eight. Fine, best case, get a touchdown.
Speaker 7: You've played poorly, but you're in it. Down four.
Speaker 8: And the first thing that Zach Taylor does is he
Speaker 8: has his team run the ball in the first two plays.
Speaker 3: Because I've been dominant, not just the first down, but
Speaker 3: the first and second down. Run was the softest, softest
Speaker 3: thing I can remember, soft and stupid. Yes, go for it.
Speaker 3: What do you have to lose?
Speaker 7: Two minute offense? Run the ball twice.
Speaker 3: Normally in those situations, defense stays back a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: doesn't want to give up the big play. Maybe you
Speaker 3: can find some easy completions for Jake Browning. Nah, we'll
Speaker 3: go run, run, I mean it is Sean Bayton had
Speaker 3: to be thinking, like what.
Speaker 8: Barring like a turnover in your own end. To go
Speaker 8: from fourteen three to twenty one to three is really
Speaker 8: mathematically hard to do. And the Bengals offensively and defensively
Speaker 8: figured out a way.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It made at the end of the half, no
Speaker 3: other way around it.
Speaker 8: So you and I were the pregame show on Monday
Speaker 8: night and I was talking to you about how when
Speaker 8: you do a deep dive into Denver one of their
Speaker 8: deficiencies is if you throw the ball to your running back,
Speaker 8: they give up a lot of yards the most amount
Speaker 8: of explosive plays allowed to opposing running backs when they
Speaker 8: catch a pass. At the end of the third quarter,
Speaker 8: Chase Brown had one reception that didn't make any sense. So,
Speaker 8: but I think back to Jake Browning in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 8: They took it away. They used took it away, good game.
Speaker 8: The Bengals used a screen game. We talked about it.
Speaker 8: Then the Bengal's going to screen pass their way to
Speaker 8: the postseason, right, Joe Mixon, Chase Brown, where's the screen
Speaker 8: game been? And then the other thing they did well
Speaker 8: is run the football. Now, they haven't run the football
Speaker 8: well in years. So let me start there. That screen
Speaker 8: game that they used two years ago with Jake Browning
Speaker 8: has totally evaporated.
Speaker 3: No idea. Why why no idea? Now? The lack of
Speaker 3: big playability in the past game hurts. The inability of
Speaker 3: them to run the ball hurts because teams just don't
Speaker 3: respect it as much. You know, deep pass game. You
Speaker 3: want to get to the quarterback run game. You're respecting
Speaker 3: that they don't have play action. All of that goes
Speaker 3: into it. But oftentimes when teams can't run the ball,
Speaker 3: they use screen game to be an extension of running game.
Speaker 3: Doesn't have to be fifty yards? Can it get you six?
Speaker 3: To get you the second four? Like those things this
Speaker 3: team just doesn't do. Maybe because they're so analytically driven.
Speaker 3: They saw those numbers and they thought Denver would really
Speaker 3: focus on that, so they didn't want to put it
Speaker 3: out there. It's just that's just a chess match between
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor and Sean Payton. Take it away, don't. I
Speaker 3: don't have an answer to it, Especially like you and
Speaker 3: I talked about t Higgins slot boundary field motion, they
Speaker 3: don't do it. We also watched every day Chase Brown
Speaker 3: go out with the receivers and catch passes. Uh huh,
Speaker 3: talk about all in the offseason. All he did right
Speaker 3: was make sure he could be a three down back
Speaker 3: and be used in the passing game run routes. I
Speaker 3: haven't seen that either. Nothing every story we talked about
Speaker 3: at camp has disappeared. Usage for tea Chase Brown in
Speaker 3: the passing game, moving Jamar Chase all the way around
Speaker 3: the field gone.
Speaker 8: But one thing has remained, and it's the other part
Speaker 8: of what I want to know about this offense. Two
Speaker 8: years ago, Jake Browning, they ran the ball pretty effectively.
Speaker 8: They put Jake under center, they did some schematic things,
Speaker 8: they ran it more effectively. Yeah, this team is atrocious
Speaker 8: at running the football right now. The one thing we
Speaker 8: discussed during training camp was this offensive line. They're gonna
Speaker 8: add Lucas Patrick and then Elton Riisener. Well, they're good
Speaker 8: pass protectors, not great run blockers. Yeah, so we watch
Speaker 8: the Bengals. No, not great, atrocious.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like we.
Speaker 8: Watch the Bengals now and go. They have to run
Speaker 8: the ball more effectively. Is there a scheme that anybody
Speaker 8: has ever invented that allows you to run the ball
Speaker 8: more effectively when your offensive linemen are bad run blockers.
Speaker 3: Not ideally, but you have to find ways to extend
Speaker 3: your running game. That would be screens, that would be
Speaker 3: jet motions, that would be misdirections, fake one way toss
Speaker 3: the like Detroit. At least five times this year I've
Speaker 3: seen them fake movement left. Running back takes a step
Speaker 3: left and then they pitch it back to the right
Speaker 3: outflank the defense. Just anything and everything to give a
Speaker 3: defense a little bit more of a look or add
Speaker 3: a little bit more flair onto the running game they
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, do not do.
Speaker 7: So I don't know how that changes. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 7: know how. Like you can, you can can?
Speaker 3: You're not just gonna decide like, oh, I'm gonna schematically dominate. Now.
Speaker 8: You can convince me Jake Browning is gonna play better
Speaker 8: than he has. Fine, you can convince me that eventually
Speaker 8: he's gonna find connections to Chase and Higgins that help
Speaker 8: this offense.
Speaker 3: Fine.
Speaker 8: What you can convince me of is understanding they have
Speaker 8: to run the ball more effectively with this quarterback, that
Speaker 8: suddenly they'll be able to yep, when they haven't been
Speaker 8: able to do so far this season and consistently at
Speaker 8: least haven't been able to in a while.
Speaker 3: But that, to me is the demoralizing part when you
Speaker 3: talk about thirteen more games, Yeah, how does it get better?
Speaker 3: That's that's to me is why at the start of
Speaker 3: the show today we had the conversation of I can't
Speaker 3: find the path that they win because I've not seen
Speaker 3: the ability of Zach Taylor, especially without Joe Burrow, to
Speaker 3: outscheme or out coach somebody. They don't have the better roster.
Speaker 3: They don't have the better players now, don't have the
Speaker 3: better quarterback, don't have a better quarterback. The only way
Speaker 3: you win by out scheming that guy on the other sideline.
Speaker 3: It's what Shanahan did to McVeigh on Thursday night. Mm hm,
Speaker 3: Like that's what it is. What Kevin O'Connell does to
Speaker 3: any quarterback he brings in starter or backup. I've not
Speaker 3: seen that from Zach, which then makes me cautious to say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: let's find an avenue for them to win, because we've
Speaker 3: not seen it.
Speaker 8: I mean, the way they win today is for the
Speaker 8: Lions to do what the Bengals did to the Vikings
Speaker 8: two weeks ago. And that's yeah, that's hand them short fields,
Speaker 8: hand them scores, hand them the football. Like is there
Speaker 8: a way, Sure, but you can't. You can't scheme for
Speaker 8: those things, right right. You can hope they happen to
Speaker 8: you it defensively, yeah, I mean you could. You can
Speaker 8: figure out ways to force quarterbacks into making mistakes and
Speaker 8: punch the ball out and stuff like that. But the plan,
Speaker 8: like in a game like this where there is a
Speaker 8: disparity between the rosters, you either need your quarterback to
Speaker 8: play out of his mind good or coaching or or
Speaker 8: supreme coaching. And I just I don't believe that with
Speaker 8: this roster, this coaching staff can do that great.
Speaker 7: And I hate saying that in October. That is because
Speaker 7: we're gonna say the same thing next week.
Speaker 3: Yep, and the week after against Pittsburgh. Yeah. Short week.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, short week, short week, it's hard, good defense.
Speaker 8: Well they use this week's a short week too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: They run the road.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I got that called middle of the night.
Speaker 8: It's hard four twenty Yeah, oh yeah, it's not normal
Speaker 8: on a normal routine. They've had the schedules thrown a
Speaker 8: lot of making the play games on the road and it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but all those things are why I am most
Speaker 3: worried about how the team reacts if things go poorly today, right,
Speaker 3: because those players probably realize too, we're not we're not
Speaker 3: out scheming anybody.
Speaker 8: Well, that's like you're talking about, like the confidence level
Speaker 8: the players having, Jake brown yeat, what confidence level do
Speaker 8: you have in the coaching staff putting you in the
Speaker 8: right position to succeed individually and.
Speaker 7: As a team?
Speaker 3: Correct, just go be great.
Speaker 7: The foundation of.
Speaker 8: The entire franchisees have Joe Burrow carry it, and now
Speaker 8: he's not here, and it crumbles, and it's crumbled the
Speaker 8: last two weeks.
Speaker 3: What do you do?
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Speaker 8: be good to go today. Shamar Stewart is gonna sit
Speaker 8: yet again. We will get the inactives. I guess a
Speaker 8: little bit before three o'clock. We'll see if Charlie Jones
Speaker 8: is good to go, dealt with an achilles issue all week.
Speaker 3: I guess, if not, maybe Jermaine Burton to be active.
Speaker 3: Do you imagine if Jones doesn't go and Burton is
Speaker 3: not active, Burton who struggled to make a meeting on
Speaker 3: time last week? You know what else?
Speaker 7: What else can you say about that.
Speaker 3: Dude's I don't know it. Not only that Shamar Stewart's
Speaker 3: out again. Yes, how bad is that ankle injury? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I would like to see, you know, what he can
Speaker 3: do for this team, what he can potentially do for
Speaker 3: this defense. Right, he's not available. It's it's been bad
Speaker 3: to this point.
Speaker 8: So Shamar Stewart edge rusher, Trey Hendrickson edge rusher.
Speaker 7: Look, the more this goes.
Speaker 8: And and the more it unravels, the more you're gonna
Speaker 8: hear people suggest it's time to hit the reset button.
Speaker 8: And to me, the very first thing you do is
Speaker 8: you move on from Trey Hendrick.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 7: But the Bengals do have in their back pocket.
Speaker 8: I guess they can franchise tag him for next year,
Speaker 8: but they haven't had him in their twenty twenty six
Speaker 8: plans from the jump.
Speaker 7: And so like.
Speaker 8: The trade deadline is still weeks away, it's becoming the
Speaker 8: worst this gets. It's becoming to me increasingly not feasible
Speaker 8: to think about him finishing his season in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: And the problem you'll have is once you decide to
Speaker 3: do that, you will officially signify to the locker room
Speaker 3: that you're done on this year. Uh huh. So that's
Speaker 3: a slippery slope because again, you've got thirteen games remaining.
Speaker 7: But like, how many of those dudes do you care about?
Speaker 3: Right? I mean, that's the counter to it. So it
Speaker 3: is right now. It is dysfunction at a lot of
Speaker 3: different levels. And it's one thing losing. It's another thing
Speaker 3: losing the way in which they have because of the
Speaker 3: locker room culture. And then when you add into that
Speaker 3: culture and you say, all right, we're gonna go ahead
Speaker 3: and move on from Trey, now you're saying to that culture,
Speaker 3: we still need you to fight and buy in, but
Speaker 3: we're not really buying in. Sure.
Speaker 8: But there's a long list of teams that have traded
Speaker 8: away a good player at the trade deadline, and like,
Speaker 8: to me, the message in the locker room is we're
Speaker 8: not good enough.
Speaker 7: We're not good enough, You're not good enough.
Speaker 8: And so we're gonna move on and do what's best
Speaker 8: for our for whatever's next for us.
Speaker 3: How far is this team from competing, if Joe Burrow.
Speaker 8: Is healthy, competing for a championship? Yes, I think a
Speaker 8: fair away. Like here's the thing. When the season started,
Speaker 8: we talked about the Bengals being playoff hopefuls. I don't
Speaker 8: think many of us viewed this team through the lens
Speaker 8: of Super Bowl hopeful or hey, they're in the upper
Speaker 8: crust of teams in the league that you legitimately talk
Speaker 8: about as having a chance to win the title. I
Speaker 8: don't think they were being framed as championship contenders when
Speaker 8: the season started, do you No.
Speaker 3: I thought if things fell in place and the offense
Speaker 3: was as good as they were last year and Al
Speaker 3: Golden could be middle of the pack, then they had
Speaker 3: a chance. But what we've seen, how can you watch
Speaker 3: this defense, even if Burrow's out there, and think that
Speaker 3: they are viable contenders in anything? Right?
Speaker 8: Nico Collins with a touchdown grab from CJ. Stroud to
Speaker 8: put the Texans of sixteen to three over Baltimore with
Speaker 8: the pat pending five thirty six to go in that one.
Speaker 8: But that's it, Like before the season started, go back
Speaker 8: to last year. Joe Burrow was amazing last season?
Speaker 3: Yeah, right?
Speaker 8: Like that is that is arguably the greatest statistical single
Speaker 8: season performance by any quarterback. Pat is good seventeen to
Speaker 8: three Texans, the greatest single season statistically of any Bengals
Speaker 8: quarterback in the history of the franchise.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you were still.
Speaker 8: Four and eight at one point, outside looking on the
Speaker 8: outside looking in when the playoffs got here.
Speaker 7: What do they do to the roster this offseason?
Speaker 3: Not a lot.
Speaker 8: So to me, the expectations coming into the year was
Speaker 8: all right, It's hard to imagine them not making the
Speaker 8: playoffs if Joe is great again. But the roster was
Speaker 8: so bad last year that you couldn't make the postseason
Speaker 8: despite Joe Burrow being great. So why should I talk
Speaker 8: about it in championship terms this year?
Speaker 3: Correct? Just this roster is not good yep.
Speaker 8: Joe Burrow is awesome, so as much as Zach Taylor
Speaker 8: does get the heat.
Speaker 3: Like we said earlier, Duke Cowman's got to answer to
Speaker 3: that as well, right, because the roster construction.
Speaker 8: Is him so like, all right, the message sent to
Speaker 8: the roster if they trade Trey Hendrickson, you know, maybe
Speaker 8: guys will quit. Honestly, me, as a fan, I've quit
Speaker 8: some of those guys because I think the next time
Speaker 8: the Bengals are in championship contention mode, pretty much none
Speaker 8: of these dudes are gonna be here, minus a handful
Speaker 8: of exceptions.
Speaker 3: Yep. And how how do you have the confidence, mo,
Speaker 3: if you've got to to rebuild it, that they're gonna
Speaker 3: rebuild it with the right guys.
Speaker 7: That's the thing that's the issue for me.
Speaker 3: Like, right, it's one thing to say, Okay, yes, move
Speaker 3: on from Trey, get some assets. Do I have confidence
Speaker 3: that they're gonna use those assets properly?
Speaker 39: No?
Speaker 3: Again, watch Religis today. You passed on him, passed on
Speaker 3: that guy. I just it's been miss after miss after miss,
Speaker 3: and we're just hoping and expecting that it's gonna be
Speaker 3: different the next time.
Speaker 8: I mean, I can, I can, really, I can really
Speaker 8: depress you and just read the number of picks over
Speaker 8: the last five years that just haven't worked out. Now,
Speaker 8: you know, twenty twenty one, they got Jamar Chase, right,
Speaker 8: they got Evan McPherson. Right, here are the picks in between, Jackson, Carmen,
Speaker 8: Joseph Osai, Cam Sample, Tyler, Shelvon, Deontay Smith, like any
Speaker 8: of those players.
Speaker 3: Nope.
Speaker 8: Twenty twenty two, Dax Hill, don't know, Cam Taylor, Britt,
Speaker 8: don't know, Carter not here, Cordell Vohlsen Nope, Tyson Anderson,
Speaker 8: Uh huh. You know, it's like an entire class twenty
Speaker 8: twenty three, Miles Murphy Nope, DJ Turner don't know, Jordan Battle,
Speaker 8: don't know, Charlie Jones okay, Chase Brown thinks so, Andrey
Speaker 8: yoshavas fine.
Speaker 7: Brad Robbins hell, that guy lasted a year. They cut him.
Speaker 8: Twenty twenty four draft class, Amarius Mims jury still out,
Speaker 8: Chris Jenkins like him, Dramane Burton never plays, McKinley Jackson
Speaker 8: never plays, Eric Halls always hurt, Josh Newton, don't know,
Speaker 8: Tanna McLaughlin not here like. And I won't even do
Speaker 8: twenty twenty five because it's not fair. But I just
Speaker 8: gave you four draft classes worth of guys that have
Speaker 8: yielded almost nothing.
Speaker 3: That's how you build teams like you are going to
Speaker 3: have to make eventual trades and moves, yes, but you're
Speaker 3: gonna build teams to have success through the draft, and
Speaker 3: then when you do draft those guys, MO, you better
Speaker 3: develop them. And they've not done any of that here
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati, not.
Speaker 7: Even close, not even remotely close.
Speaker 3: Developed Joe great, So that's the thing, Like they developed Jamar.
Speaker 8: I believe they got Joe up to speed that first
Speaker 8: year without preseason, but no, I mean.
Speaker 7: Drafting Joe Burrow was obvious.
Speaker 8: Drafting Jamar Chase might not have been obvious because the
Speaker 8: Lions have a guy who would have something to say
Speaker 8: about that in pinay Seool. But all right, were you
Speaker 8: make your where you build your roster? And to me,
Speaker 8: were you were you establish your reputation? We got the
Speaker 8: best server in the building here, Matt. Timely delivery my pizza.
Speaker 8: Were you were you establish your reputation as a personnel person?
Speaker 8: And where you build rosters is by making those day
Speaker 8: two and day three picks. Duke Tobin hasn't made enough
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Speaker 8: The Final Hour, the Power Hour. You're at the Holy
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Speaker 3: Are Bengals fans here?
Speaker 7: Are Bengals fans here?
Speaker 3: Are Are there Lions fans here? Do we have Lions
Speaker 3: fans in the house? Yes?
Speaker 8: Road Environment, I like this true This is, you know,
Speaker 8: practice of the crowd noise, you know that intimidating Detroit
Speaker 8: Lion crowds.
Speaker 3: This is what Jake needed. That's right.
Speaker 8: They played so well on the road. Ye these first
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Speaker 8: Were you guys here from Detroit watching the Tigers last night?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess I don't care about the Tigers if
Speaker 8: you're from Detroit.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: More Tigers, Wolverines, Spartans, Spartans, Red Wings, Pistons.
Speaker 7: My guy Jalen Brunson ended the Pistons season last year.
Speaker 3: That was fun. Yeah, take that bout it, Detroit. That's right,
Speaker 3: that was fun.
Speaker 62: You know.
Speaker 8: The thing is like, we know what that's like. We
Speaker 8: know what these fans are experiencing right now. I look,
Speaker 8: the lines were awesome last year, lost and home in
Speaker 8: the postseason. But like they it's it's fun when you're
Speaker 8: on the road and you've got a really good team.
Speaker 8: I don't know that I know what it's like to
Speaker 8: go watch your favorite team playing the road and be
Speaker 8: ten and a half point favorite.
Speaker 3: I love though love. I love environments at home games. Yeah,
Speaker 3: as a fan, to go to a road game though,
Speaker 3: when your team's good is the best. It's just something
Speaker 3: like cause you're like, what are you gonna say to
Speaker 3: me right, like we're better? Yeah, it's it's it's it's fun.
Speaker 3: Like you get to go around a city, you get
Speaker 3: to travel. You did it in Denver.
Speaker 8: I did it in Denver and those fans were nice.
Speaker 8: That stadium was awesome, the in and out. They have
Speaker 8: light rail, which is cool as hell. Like it was
Speaker 8: neat walking out of the stadium. Nobody like people felt
Speaker 8: bad for us.
Speaker 7: It was just like, hey man, you have to go
Speaker 7: home and watch that more.
Speaker 3: Like wow. In large part for me, it's what made
Speaker 3: nine the Pittsburgh game better.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, the fact that it was on the road. Yeah,
Speaker 8: like that makes it.
Speaker 3: So much better. And to be a fan and if
Speaker 3: the fans aren't giving you crap throughout the game, you
Speaker 3: get like the last trump card like yep, yep, sorry,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take this win back with me.
Speaker 8: Well, especially because in the second half all the UC
Speaker 8: fans who had shown up that day had left.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the fos, including family and friends.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the folks who tell you they were there, and
Speaker 8: it's like, oh, yeah, were you there.
Speaker 7: In the third quarter, you know, it started to snow.
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Speaker 8: game's happening right now. Baltimore is losing at home seventeen
Speaker 8: to three to the Texans, and Houston has the ball.
Speaker 7: At midfield at the two minute warning.
Speaker 8: Two minute warning, and Charlotte Dolphins up seventeen to seven
Speaker 8: on the Panthers. Eagles five minutes to go in the
Speaker 8: first half, lead the Broncos by a score of ten
Speaker 8: to three. Cowboys up ten to three, they have the
Speaker 8: football deep in their own territory to eighteen to go
Speaker 8: in the first half. Dallas up seven on New York
Speaker 8: ten to three the other New York team. How many
Speaker 8: times have the Giants and Jets played at the exact
Speaker 8: same time?
Speaker 7: I feel like they do one at one and one
Speaker 7: at four.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: The Giants up fourteen thirteen on the Saints.
Speaker 8: That game is in New Orleans, less than three minutes
Speaker 8: to go before halftime and lou and Rumo's Colts up
Speaker 8: fourteen to three on the Raiders at home with just
Speaker 8: under two minutes to go in the first half.
Speaker 7: In that one, Here's what I want you to do.
Speaker 8: You on Tuesday morning did a series of breakdowns on
Speaker 8: social media using the all twenty two of six different
Speaker 8: plays where you pointed out some of Jake Browning's deficiencies.
Speaker 8: Obviously this is an audio medium, but I want you
Speaker 8: that if you can walk through the things you saw
Speaker 8: when watching critically that Jake did poorly and tell me
Speaker 8: how many one of those things he legitimately can do
Speaker 8: better today.
Speaker 3: I think it starts decision making. Their first drive of
Speaker 3: the game was I thought, very good, minus them kicking
Speaker 3: the field going fourth and two right. But on third
Speaker 3: and two you get the exact look you want. And
Speaker 3: I know, like t Higgins had one on one coverage
Speaker 3: and that's a matchup you like because of his size.
Speaker 3: But on the same play, you had Chase Brown in
Speaker 3: the middle of the field one on one with a
Speaker 3: linebacker and it wasn't at this guy's coverage. You knew
Speaker 3: you had Chase Brown one on one with a linebacker
Speaker 3: on a choice route Chase brown won easily. Jake Browning
Speaker 3: took the ball and threw it six yards out of bounds. One,
Speaker 3: if you're gonna throw to t Higgins, you got to
Speaker 3: give him a chance to catch the ball. Right. Two,
Speaker 3: you're calling that play with your running back knowing that
Speaker 3: if you get one on one, the ball goes there.
Speaker 3: Miss that. Opportunities that were thrown down the field oftentimes
Speaker 3: were uncatchable. You've got to give your guy a chance
Speaker 3: to make a catch.
Speaker 66: Right.
Speaker 3: They used Jamar Chase in motion on a third down
Speaker 3: and got the look you wanted. The secondary is communicating,
Speaker 3: they're passing things off. Jamar Chase fits into a window
Speaker 3: six yards down the field. Jake Brownan didn't even look there.
Speaker 3: It's opportunity after opportunity missed. They had a rollout again,
Speaker 3: unique situation where they load the right side of the field.
Speaker 3: Mitchell Tinsley, of all people, goes in motion and you
Speaker 3: get a half rollout left. Tinsley's open, Jamar Chase is
Speaker 3: wide open. Jake Browning lazily flips his hips and throws
Speaker 3: the ball uncatchable. Like you only get a certain opportunity
Speaker 3: with looks in the NFL. Right and every opportunity that
Speaker 3: was advantageous for Jake Browning to the Bengals. He either
Speaker 3: missed the throw or missed the read. And as much
Speaker 3: as we want to harp on Zach Taylor, you've got
Speaker 3: to be able to operate in the NFL at the
Speaker 3: bare minimum it. I know, I could talk to anyone
Speaker 3: else I know at quarterback, if you've got a running
Speaker 3: back versus a linebacker with space one on one, the
Speaker 3: running back's going to win. Give him the ball. You
Speaker 3: can't throw deep balls out of bounds. There's a termin
Speaker 3: in with quarterbacks. When you're throwing a deep ball, you
Speaker 3: want the ball to land halfway between the numbers and
Speaker 3: the out of bounds. So if you think on an
Speaker 3: NFL field, where the numbers are going down the field
Speaker 3: and then the out of bounds, if you drew an
Speaker 3: imaginary line all the way down the field, halfway between
Speaker 3: the two, that's where your deep ball lands because it
Speaker 3: gives your receiver room to operate. The throws last week
Speaker 3: were out of bounds. You could even make a play,
Speaker 3: and they've got guys that can do it. He did
Speaker 3: it on the first drive, one up and got one
Speaker 3: unbelievable catch. We talk about the catch radius. They don't
Speaker 3: utilize those things, and when they do, you have to
Speaker 3: hit on them. And Jake Browning didn't do it last week,
Speaker 3: which again you wonder should he be doing it again
Speaker 3: this week? But they haven't addressed that position.
Speaker 8: I mean, the ceiling for Jake Browning is not very high.
Speaker 8: You know, that was what his eighth, ninth NFL start.
Speaker 8: He's a backup quarterback. He's a backup quarterback for a reason.
Speaker 8: What I watched on Monday night looked like a guy
Speaker 8: in like Drew Pltt a couple of years ago, right
Speaker 8: who he gets a shot.
Speaker 7: He's not gonna make the team, but he's a local guy.
Speaker 8: Give him a chance to put some stuff on film,
Speaker 8: and you know, the longer he's on the field, the
Speaker 8: more it's gonna become.
Speaker 7: I'm not doing this to pick on Drew.
Speaker 8: I'm just using it as an example where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 8: this is not an NFL quarterback. That's what Jake Browning
Speaker 8: looked like. He looked like Des Richard this preseason.
Speaker 3: DEAs was Terrible's like people are like, well what happened
Speaker 3: years ago? If you actually believe it, their own line
Speaker 3: running the ball was better years ago. Yeah, this old
Speaker 3: line is constructed to pass block. So what doesn't help
Speaker 3: Jake Browning the ability that he can't turn around and
Speaker 3: give it to a running back twenty five times and
Speaker 3: get yards. So what happens Morris put on his shoulders,
Speaker 3: and in my opinion, over the last two weeks, he has
Speaker 3: not shown the ability with more weight on his shoulders
Speaker 3: to operate in an offense. Yeah, it's also different to
Speaker 3: operate over the course of the end of the year
Speaker 3: instead of fourteen to fifteen games remaining.
Speaker 8: But when I think of two years ago, they did
Speaker 8: run it effectively right, and they had a screen. They
Speaker 8: can't do that, And then there were a couple of
Speaker 8: times think of that Minnesota game two years ago where
Speaker 8: te goes and makes some great plays. None of that,
Speaker 8: like what I saw, was preseason level incompetence from a
Speaker 8: starting quarterback in a primetime game on the road. You're
Speaker 8: going to lose every single time, can't win. It is
Speaker 8: a sixteen minutes matchups. Bad matchups, Yeah, bad matchups. Sixteen
Speaker 8: minutes after two o'clock. We are broadcasting from the Holy Grail.
Speaker 3: Let's see NY one to three in Baltimore. This Texans,
Speaker 3: This guy Hutchinson's got two touchdowns.
Speaker 8: Daterer Hutchinson not a bad matchup for him. It's twenty
Speaker 8: three to three with the pat pending.
Speaker 3: We're gonna use this all year match up.
Speaker 8: Bad batch up. Yeah, I've heard it four different weeks.
Speaker 8: Bad matchup, bad matchup worst.
Speaker 43: C J.
Speaker 8: Stroud with three touchdown passes already for the second time
Speaker 8: in his career. The pat is up. It is good
Speaker 8: and the Texans lead the Ravens in Baltimore under a
Speaker 8: half minute to go in the first half, twenty four
Speaker 8: to three. Dolphins up seventeen to seven on the Panthers
Speaker 8: final minute of the first half. They're two and a
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Speaker 8: Cowboys up ten to three on the Jets final two
Speaker 8: minutes of the first half. There, Colts remain up fourteen
Speaker 8: to three over Vegas one nineteen to go in the
Speaker 8: first half, and the Giants at the two minute warning
Speaker 8: in the first half lead the Saints fourteen to three.
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Speaker 7: Of the Bengals all these many years.
Speaker 8: Dan Horden, Dave Lapham getting ready for the call Bengals
Speaker 8: and Broncos.
Speaker 7: We are three weeks away from Dave Lappham.
Speaker 8: What a weekend. Yeah, on the twenty fourth, you got
Speaker 8: that weekend. You go into UC's Hall of Fame with
Speaker 8: six others. You see Baylor, You see Baylor and then
Speaker 8: the Ring of Honor with Dave Lapham and Lamar Parrish.
Speaker 7: It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 8: By the way, it'll be another normal weekend for me
Speaker 8: where nobody cares.
Speaker 3: But you've looked at this yet. Yeah, early line for
Speaker 3: next Saturday at noon. What do you got?
Speaker 7: Cats seven and a half, ten and a half? No way,
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Man, that's a lot, a big number. That's a lot.
Speaker 3: That's a big number.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 3: That's Scott Frost back in the building.
Speaker 8: You were enjoying your inn dinner. That game yesterday between
Speaker 8: them and Kansas. Yeah, pretty entertainment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm more interested in that because I want to
Speaker 3: see what Kansas does going forward.
Speaker 7: I think Kansas is good.
Speaker 3: I think they are a handful offensively, a handful. It's
Speaker 3: time and a half.
Speaker 7: Time for your favorite segment.
Speaker 8: Time to take a look at what happened on this
Speaker 8: date in Cincinnati sports history. It is brought to you
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Speaker 8: October fifth in Cincinnati sports history has actually been pretty
Speaker 8: busy day. A lot of baseball. Yeah, like in nineteen
Speaker 8: sixty one when Joey J. Threw a complete game four
Speaker 8: hitter Gordy Coleman with a home run Reds beat the.
Speaker 3: New York Yankees. Joey J.
Speaker 8: Was great that night in Game two of the nineteen
Speaker 8: sixty one World Series six to two.
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, they would lose the series in five.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 8: It was on this day nineteen seventy Tony Oh, Johnny Bench,
Speaker 8: and Tony Perez had back to back home runs and
Speaker 8: Bobby Tolin drove in the go ahead run for the
Speaker 8: Reds as they polished off the Pittsburgh Pirates Game three,
Speaker 8: finishing off a three game series sweep, beating Pittsburgh three
Speaker 8: to two to advance to the World Series. It was
Speaker 8: on this date in nineteen seventy five two things happened.
Speaker 8: Tony Number one, Fred Norman and Raley Eastwick combined to
Speaker 8: give up just one run and Tony Perez homeward to
Speaker 8: give the Pirates to give the Reds a six to
Speaker 8: one win over the Pirates in Game two of the
Speaker 8: National League Championship Series that the Reds would go on to.
Speaker 7: Win and free. That same day, Can Anderson.
Speaker 8: Threw three touchdown passes in a twenty one to nineteen
Speaker 8: Bengals win over the Houston Oilers. It was on this
Speaker 8: date in nineteen seventy nine, Wow the Big Red Machine
Speaker 8: era came to an end, as the Reds lost Game
Speaker 8: three of the National League Championship Series, also to the Pirates,
Speaker 8: seven to one. Pittsburgh would finish off a three game
Speaker 8: sweep and go on to win the World Series that
Speaker 8: year over Baltimore. It was on this date in nineteen
Speaker 8: eighty six Tony that James Brooks ran for a couple
Speaker 8: of touchdowns, Boomersiasin threw for a couple of touchdowns, and
Speaker 8: the Bengals on the road at lambeau Field beat the
Speaker 8: Packers thirty four to twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 8: It was on this date in nineteen ninety Tom Browning,
Speaker 8: Rob Dibble, and Randy Myers combined to allow six hits.
Speaker 8: Paul O'Neil had two RBIs and threw out Andy Van
Speaker 8: Slike at third base as the Reds evened up the
Speaker 8: National League Championship Series with a two to one win
Speaker 8: again over the Pirates, Wow, to.
Speaker 7: Even up that series at a game apiece.
Speaker 8: And it was on this date eleven years ago the
Speaker 8: on to Cincinnati game Wow Bengals on Sunday Night Football
Speaker 8: with the New England Patriots having gotten crushed by the
Speaker 8: Chiefs hammered the Bengals forty three to seventeen in Foxborough.
Speaker 3: It was on this date six years ago I got
Speaker 3: married and you and your lovely wife Molly, as I remember,
Speaker 3: I had a great time at the reception.
Speaker 8: I had a blasted thus at our house, A really
Speaker 8: good time at the reception. Yeah, I don't know anybody
Speaker 8: I was. I was saying, Molly and I were talking
Speaker 8: about this. I don't know anybody who has moved more.
Speaker 8: You've been married six years in fast, three kids.
Speaker 7: Yeah, pretty impressive.
Speaker 3: What my wife really enjoys is like the next morning
Speaker 3: I did the show here. You remember I was here
Speaker 3: the morning after our wedding. Like, I left the house
Speaker 3: that morning and like so many people just slept in
Speaker 3: random spots in the house. I was like climbing over
Speaker 3: bodies coming here Sauce Gardner picked six the night before
Speaker 3: you see one. Uh huh. And then my wife and
Speaker 3: I for our honeymoon went to Gatlinburg with my dad
Speaker 3: and brother. I have promised her a really nice honeymoon.
Speaker 3: And then we started having kids.
Speaker 8: And you took her to Gatlinburg Gatlinburg's lovely football season.
Speaker 3: Man, I guess we were here the next morning during
Speaker 3: this show.
Speaker 7: I remember that fantastic six years yars ago. Congratulations.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, what I just remember you.
Speaker 7: You know, I remember meeting Meredith and it was like
Speaker 7: I met Tony's girlfriend, and then the next week it
Speaker 7: was We're getting married.
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, it was quick, you know, yolo, Man, you
Speaker 3: gotta make the post of everybody most quickly.
Speaker 7: Well, very good planet.
Speaker 8: That is better than all that other short I just
Speaker 8: mentioned that happened on October fifth.
Speaker 7: In uh Cincinnati sports history.
Speaker 8: Uh, let's take a look at how every piece is important, Tony.
Speaker 8: It's brought to you by Donado's Pizza. Where every piece
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Speaker 7: Give me an important piece.
Speaker 3: Uh. Chase Brown, he was important going into the year.
Speaker 3: I I thought Chase Brown was going to end this
Speaker 3: year as one of the top backs of the league. Yes,
Speaker 3: And what I want to see now, if you can't
Speaker 3: get it just by handing the ball off, can you
Speaker 3: give Chase Brown opportunities to be effective without handing it off.
Speaker 3: Can you use them in the passing game? Can you
Speaker 3: run some screen game? Can you find ways for Chase
Speaker 3: Brown to have an impact on the game today outside
Speaker 3: of just running the ball in between the tackle?
Speaker 8: So this goes into what I think is huge. You
Speaker 8: got to keep Detroit's offense off the field. The Bengals
Speaker 8: are last in the NFL in number of plays run
Speaker 8: per game, in large part because they're awful on third
Speaker 8: down the last two weeks, especially just five of twenty two.
Speaker 7: And so you start there.
Speaker 8: Whenever you play a team of the high powered offense,
Speaker 8: you figure out a way to keep them off the field.
Speaker 8: The Lions have I think by definition, a high powered,
Speaker 8: high scoring, explosive offense.
Speaker 7: You obviously need points.
Speaker 8: You're probably not going to be able to score twenty
Speaker 8: four today in hope to win. But can you score
Speaker 8: on sustained dry If you can't convert on third down,
Speaker 8: then the answer is non. Well, you have less of
Speaker 8: a chance of converting on third down if every third
Speaker 8: down is a third and seven or longer. And over
Speaker 8: the last two weeks they've been because they can't run
Speaker 8: the ball. Everything is sort of tied together. But I
Speaker 8: look at drive sustainability and I look at third down conversions.
Speaker 8: The Bengals in both regards have been awful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, to tie them both together, that's where
Speaker 3: Chase brown helps run the ball, shorten the passing game,
Speaker 3: and find ways to get the ball. I mean again,
Speaker 3: I keep we keep harping on last week Denver could
Speaker 3: have ran fifty bubbles. Last week I got fifteen yards
Speaker 3: of bubble. Right, you have to at some point, by
Speaker 3: your alignment and your pre snap movement, find advantageous ways
Speaker 3: to get your guys in position. Two weeks ago, we
Speaker 3: watched Kansas. I've never seen a team shift in motion
Speaker 3: more before the snap than what they did, But talking
Speaker 3: to UST coaches after the game, it gave them fits.
Speaker 3: Try that, right, Try more movement, Try more shifting, Try
Speaker 3: getting the play in quicker start there. Yeah, allow Jake
Speaker 3: Browning to at least try to see what the defense
Speaker 3: is doing.
Speaker 8: Two delay of game penalties won on a punt which
Speaker 8: may have been intentional, I don't know. But the other
Speaker 8: one again, you go back to the first game of
Speaker 8: the season, because you know, I think there's a tendency
Speaker 8: to kind of pin everything on the fact that they're
Speaker 8: operating with Joe, with Jake Browning. We talked after Game one,
Speaker 8: the one complete game that Joe Burrow played, how do
Speaker 8: you have this amount of continuity with the coaching staff
Speaker 8: and look, Jake Browning's been here a while. How do
Speaker 8: you have this much continuity with the quarterback and have
Speaker 8: such a hard time getting the play in?
Speaker 3: Right? That's the thing. You would think that Jake Browning
Speaker 3: just joined this team three weeks ago, right, he knowed
Speaker 3: that was the whole point of him being the guy
Speaker 3: is he knows the system inside and out. Why can't
Speaker 3: you operate at any level of that system?
Speaker 15: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't. That to me is one of the most
Speaker 3: maddening things about it is watching them and them not
Speaker 3: being known to piece together the simplest, simplest.
Speaker 8: Thing, like it's a copycat league. Do the Bengals coaches
Speaker 8: not watch other teams? Like how do you watch San
Speaker 8: Francisco on Thursday and not come to the office and
Speaker 8: go I like that you know what.
Speaker 7: There are some concepts they used.
Speaker 3: That is legal. You're allowed to do that. You could
Speaker 3: watch the tape the twenty two right and you could say, hey,
Speaker 3: that's a good idea, right, let's grab that and use it.
Speaker 8: It feels like there's none of that schematically here now,
Speaker 8: no borrowing from other teams that seem to do it
Speaker 8: at a really high level.
Speaker 7: We got a step aside.
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Speaker 8: are at halftime. The Colts are up twenty to three
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Speaker 8: throwing a couple of touchdown passes. The Saints take a
Speaker 8: sixteen to fourteen halftime lead at home over the New
Speaker 8: Orleans Saints. Spencer Rattlers throwing a touchdown pass in search
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Speaker 8: Dallas up twenty three to three on the Jets, are
Speaker 8: in danger of five to zero and five Dak Prescott's
Speaker 8: a couple of touchdowns. Eagles up ten to three on
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Speaker 8: couple of touchdown passes and CJ. Stroud has thrown three
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Speaker 8: to three that game.
Speaker 7: Also at the half, what.
Speaker 3: Do you think that sounded like going into the half?
Speaker 3: Not great?
Speaker 7: I think John harp Ball is interesting, man.
Speaker 8: Like, they have a lot of injuries right now, but
Speaker 8: there's been this since over the last couple of years.
Speaker 8: All right, we have fixed quarterback. Lamar Jackson has progressed
Speaker 8: and I mean he is an upper tier absolute dude.
Speaker 8: They've had a very good roster the last couple of seasons. Yeah,
Speaker 8: they haven't even made an AFC Championship game during this run.
Speaker 3: Does does Pittsburgh just run away with the North?
Speaker 7: Feels like it? If the Bengals lose today, feels like it.
Speaker 7: You hate to say that.
Speaker 3: Until they come here a couple of Thursdays.
Speaker 7: Steelers with a bye this week.
Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean, what do you think Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 8: is doing right now? Probably something I wouldn't want to do.
Speaker 8: Probably in a dark somewhere. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: You imagine him like not like just in a dark
Speaker 3: hut watching football tape by himself.
Speaker 7: I don't know that.
Speaker 8: I don't know that when he goes to one of
Speaker 8: those darkness retreats, football as much on his mind.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Look, he's played.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm not I started to play better. I do
Speaker 8: not yet subscribe to any belief that they can win
Speaker 8: the AFC. And you know, look a year ago at
Speaker 8: this time, they were kind of felt like becoming one
Speaker 8: of those teams that you thought could win the AFC,
Speaker 8: and then by the second half of the season that
Speaker 8: was abundantly not clear or abundantly clear that they weren't.
Speaker 8: They had that season in twenty twenty where they started
Speaker 8: ten and one, like there have been years like this,
Speaker 8: But they've played well, he's played well. If this score
Speaker 8: in Baltimore holds and they're one and four, if the
Speaker 8: Bengals lose in they're two and three, Cleveland's already lost.
Speaker 8: You start to think, if you're a Steelers fan, like
Speaker 8: we can put some distance between ourselves and the rest of.
Speaker 3: The division in an AFC that is not very good,
Speaker 3: which makes this even more frustrating that the Bengals are
Speaker 3: going through this.
Speaker 8: That's the thing, Like, I don't know who the seven
Speaker 8: playoff teams are supposed to be. Yeah, I'm watching John
Speaker 8: Harball talking to Evan Washburn and his hair like it
Speaker 8: ain't them right now.
Speaker 3: No, it's got to be a tough, tough conversation. I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 8: I credit for him for having it, because some head
Speaker 8: coaches will just walk past. I don't know who the
Speaker 8: playoff teams are supposed to be in the AFC. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I can tell you who the really good teams are
Speaker 8: in the NFC. In the AFC, I can't find seven
Speaker 8: good ones yep. But if they win today.
Speaker 3: What can you find more of AFC playoff teams or
Speaker 3: players on this current roster you would have to have
Speaker 3: back next year?
Speaker 1: Hmm.
Speaker 7: Probably AFC playoff.
Speaker 3: This stuff it's been I've been racking my brain all week,
Speaker 3: kind of talk myself into things.
Speaker 8: Well, who are they like again, like Chase higgins Borough
Speaker 8: put over here?
Speaker 7: Everybody else is over here?
Speaker 8: Who are you grabbing from this group and putting with
Speaker 8: the group that has Jamar Joe and T couldn't tell
Speaker 8: you who like. One might say Chase Brown, he plays
Speaker 8: running back. I haven't been able to get him going yep.
Speaker 8: Right now, for me, it's none of those offensive line
Speaker 8: and it's none of those defensive lineman Shamar Stewart. I'll
Speaker 8: certainly give the benefit of the doubt too. It's no linebacker,
Speaker 8: God knows, it's no dB. Like who who's in this
Speaker 8: group that you pluck over here and put in this group?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Who is a guy you look at and say,
Speaker 3: cannot go into a season without?
Speaker 7: Yeah, who's essential?
Speaker 3: Logan Wilson. No Bengals have told you that much.
Speaker 7: I'll bui his playing time is demand.
Speaker 8: No Dax Hill, Geno Stone, DJ Turner, Josh Newton.
Speaker 3: No, no, no.
Speaker 8: I could certainly get to a point I believe that
Speaker 8: Demetrius Knight's one of those guys. Oh so okay, Pope,
Speaker 8: Shamar Stewart, Dylan Fairchild. Maybe again, we did this before.
Speaker 8: I make rookies exempt from the discussion because they're so unproven.
Speaker 3: Who else you got?
Speaker 7: Who else you got.
Speaker 8: That You're like, you know what, the next half of
Speaker 8: the decade, we're gonna win super Bowls unless we let
Speaker 8: these guys get away.
Speaker 7: It don't exist.
Speaker 3: But that's the frustrating part is I don't know the answers,
Speaker 3: and you would think with a lot of those times,
Speaker 3: you could at least say, okay, we can at least
Speaker 3: look to this and this core group. Let me ask
Speaker 3: you this, who has more of those type players the
Speaker 3: reds of the Bengals.
Speaker 8: The Reds, right, because they have starting pitchers. Correct, it's
Speaker 8: not an apples apples comparison, But the Rets, I'm not
Speaker 8: sure who they are positionally top to bottom. But the
Speaker 8: frustrating thing about the Bengals part of it is last
Speaker 8: year we knew they had a bad roster. This coming
Speaker 8: into this season, we said, man, you got Joe, he's healthy,
Speaker 8: if he's superhuman, you'll be fine. But it's probably not
Speaker 8: like nobody would have looked at the Bengals roster before
Speaker 8: the season and said it's among the best eight to
Speaker 8: ten in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody.
Speaker 8: You might have thought the wide receiver position. You certainly
Speaker 8: might have thought that. The quarterback.
Speaker 3: You didn't look.
Speaker 8: Again, the bar for the defense all off season was
Speaker 8: they just gotta.
Speaker 7: Be league average.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's pretty damning and timing against the quality of
Speaker 8: the players on that side of the ball.
Speaker 3: That's tough. Be league average, be league average, be top twenty,
Speaker 3: top twenty.
Speaker 7: So now they need more and they're not capable of
Speaker 7: doing that.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 8: Would you like to pick the four o'clock games, Stud
Speaker 8: Knights game in to Marsvin. Tampa Bay is on the
Speaker 8: road against Seattle. The Seahawks are laying three and a half.
Speaker 3: Gosh, I think Seattle is one of those teams that
Speaker 3: is dangerous. But there is just something about Baker Mayfield
Speaker 3: and this Tampa team that I like. I can't pick
Speaker 3: against him. I think it's an opportunity for them to
Speaker 3: go on the road and get a good win. I
Speaker 3: think against a good Seattle.
Speaker 8: Ta beating up Bucky Irving, Mike Evans. But I think
Speaker 8: they figure it out. I think Baker Mayfield basically makes
Speaker 8: them figure it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I like Tampa Bay. Arizona a pretty big home favorite
Speaker 8: against Tennessee laying seven and a half. Is today Brian
Speaker 8: Callahan's last game.
Speaker 3: Man boy, he gave up play calling duties.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, bought himself some times.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Arizona's one of those teams I'm
Speaker 3: not ready to count out of the equation yet. I
Speaker 3: think if they can figure a couple things out, I
Speaker 3: like them. I'll take Arizona to cover the number.
Speaker 8: Give me a Washington at the Chargers. LA is laying three.
Speaker 8: I'm just gonna go I'm taking Washington. Jane Daniels is back,
Speaker 8: Joe Alt is hurt, They've already lost in Sewan Slater.
Speaker 7: That offensive line is gonna be a mess.
Speaker 3: If you asked me this game last week, yes, I
Speaker 3: take the Chargers because I thought they were one of
Speaker 3: the best teams in football. Yes, I like a Marion Hampton,
Speaker 3: but I'm with you. I think Washington, now that they're
Speaker 3: getting Daniel's back, has something to prove, and after that
Speaker 3: Chargers loss last I don't really know who they are.
Speaker 3: Four and oh.
Speaker 7: Buffalo is laying seven and a half against the Pats.
Speaker 3: I think New England's better in a lot of places,
Speaker 3: but I think I think Buffalo's four to oh and
Speaker 3: haven't played their best game yet. I'll take Buffalo, and.
Speaker 8: They've achieved balanced on offense, which has been kind of
Speaker 8: elusive for them during this Josh Allen run. I don't
Speaker 8: think the Patriots can get after the quarterback. I'll take Buffalo.
Speaker 8: I'll lay the points. Kansas City's trending upward.
Speaker 3: Everything last week felt like when the wheels fall off
Speaker 3: for them and then they dominate the Ravens uh huh
Speaker 3: offense pieced it together. It's also Travis Kelce's birthday, said
Speaker 3: a big weekend, got a song about him.
Speaker 8: I've learned a lot about Travis Kelcey listening to the
Speaker 8: new Taylor Swift album.
Speaker 3: Which is a lot of what we don't want to
Speaker 3: know about Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 8: So I get an eight year old daughter, Crosley loves
Speaker 8: Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've listened to them.
Speaker 8: Now, there are some adult themes in this album that
Speaker 8: we've kind of hoped she just.
Speaker 7: Kind of ignores.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I've learned a lot about Travis Kelcey listening
Speaker 8: to this album that I didn't necessarily need to know.
Speaker 3: Yep. I'll take Kansas City, though, I'll.
Speaker 7: Lay the three and a half with the Chiefs.
Speaker 8: There's one more game to pick, Bengals, big home dogs.
Speaker 8: We'll talk about it when we come back. Sixteen away
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Speaker 8: At four twenty five, the Texans have scored in the
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Speaker 8: is thirty one to three. What is the most lopsided
Speaker 8: home Ravens loss of the hardball era.
Speaker 3: Let's just do this. What points spread is closer today
Speaker 3: at the end of the game, Texans Ravens Bengals Lions.
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Speaker 3: we see here today.
Speaker 8: This will end forty five ten. Cooper Rush will put
Speaker 8: a touchdown on the board. I don't know why, Derek
Speaker 8: Henry still in the game, get established a run down
Speaker 8: by twenty eight points. Bad matchup for baltim I'll say
Speaker 8: forty five ten. Okay, So can the Bengals cover thirty
Speaker 8: five at home?
Speaker 7: We'll get to that in just a second.
Speaker 8: Elsewhere around the NFL, Colts up twenty to three on
Speaker 8: the Raiders, thirteen to go in the third quarter. Still
Speaker 8: at the half of New Orleans, Saints lead the Giants
Speaker 8: sixteen to fourteen. They are getting underway the second half
Speaker 8: in New Jersey. Cowboys still up twenty three to three
Speaker 8: on the Jets. Second half underway in Philadelphia, Eagles ten,
Speaker 8: Broncos three, Dolphins up seventeen to three. Panthers have kicked
Speaker 8: the field goal in the third quarter seventeen to thirteen.
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Speaker 8: that one, And as we just mentioned, the Ravens are
Speaker 8: getting destroyed at home by the Houston Texans thirty one,
Speaker 8: two three, And I think Derreck Henry just got stopped
Speaker 8: on third and two.
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Speaker 8: Against the spread today, Lions ten and a half point
Speaker 8: favorites on the road against.
Speaker 3: Let's start here. Are you surprised the numbers ten and
Speaker 3: a half.
Speaker 8: A little bit because it opened at nine and a
Speaker 8: half and then it came off because the Bengals played
Speaker 8: on Monday and when it went back on the board,
Speaker 8: it didn't move. It was nine and a half. It
Speaker 8: was ten and a half by Tuesday morning. I thought
Speaker 8: that Monday night's performance might boost that number just a
Speaker 8: little bit in Detroit's direction. Yeah, I was thinking like
Speaker 8: thirteen and a half. Yeah, somewhere around there. The Bengals
Speaker 8: are at home.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess they're at home on taper.
Speaker 7: Geographically they're at home.
Speaker 3: Normally, I find the path and I find the way.
Speaker 3: I've been unable to do that this week. I don't
Speaker 3: know how they keep this close. I think the aggressive
Speaker 3: nature in which Detroit plays defensively is going to be
Speaker 3: an issue. Aidon Hutchinson is going to be an issue,
Speaker 3: and I don't know how they stop the offense as
Speaker 3: currently constructed. Of the Lions, I think Lions win, I
Speaker 3: think Lions cover.
Speaker 8: I think the Lions are favored. If Joe Burrow is
Speaker 8: healthy that is a statement against the Bengals. It's also
Speaker 8: a reflection of how good and talented and well coached
Speaker 8: the Detroit Lions are, who, by the way, have been
Speaker 8: awesome on the road.
Speaker 7: Under Dan Campbell. And so the ten and a half
Speaker 7: isn't just Joe to Jake.
Speaker 8: I think the Lions would not be ten and a
Speaker 8: half point favorites, but I do think they would be
Speaker 8: favorite if Joe Burrow were playing quarterback, and I think
Speaker 8: it would be more than a point or two. I
Speaker 8: think these are just two teams that look and feel
Speaker 8: dramatically different because of the quality of Detroit's roster, how
Speaker 8: it reflects their identity, how well coached it is, how
Speaker 8: the Lions have taken on the personality of their head coach.
Speaker 8: And I can't say any of that about the Bengals.
Speaker 8: So can I see the back door opening? Sure, it's
Speaker 8: ten and a half NFL games. It happens all the
Speaker 8: time where team's up seventeen, team at home gets a
Speaker 8: garbage time touchdown and the back door comes open and
Speaker 8: it ends up they cover. This is the first time,
Speaker 8: I think, since before Joe Burrow was drafted, where I
Speaker 8: look at a game and I don't see a pathway
Speaker 8: to winning barring Detroit doing what the Bengals did against
Speaker 8: the Minnesota Vikings. I cannot give myself to a point
Speaker 8: where they win this football game. I think that it's
Speaker 8: gonna be a lot like that guy right there who
Speaker 8: just fell. And I certainly hope that young man is okay.
Speaker 8: That that gentleman right there sort of personifies the way
Speaker 8: this season is gone.
Speaker 7: He looked like a tree falling.
Speaker 3: Wow, feels like it feels like a micro cosma what
Speaker 3: we might win ess here soon.
Speaker 7: He looked like Orlando Brown or a Marius Min's trying
Speaker 7: to throw a block last week.
Speaker 8: I mean, he just got knocked backwards. He looked like
Speaker 8: that safety trying to tackle ty Wee Walker yesterday.
Speaker 3: Oh, that guy's got to retire from sports.
Speaker 7: That that gentleman right there needs to retire from today.
Speaker 3: Yep y because some days this an't your day.
Speaker 7: Put that guy in the backseat.
Speaker 3: What's the what's the conversation for us tomorrow if it
Speaker 3: is lopsided?
Speaker 8: So that was my next question, and I think that
Speaker 8: to me is unfortunately, I fear that's where the conversation
Speaker 8: is gonna go. Because I'm interested in the score, and
Speaker 8: I'm interested in the outcome, and I'm interested in what
Speaker 8: the Bengals think they can do against the Lions. But
Speaker 8: what I think is really interesting given the fact that,
Speaker 8: at least from outsiders, the heat on Zach Taylor has
Speaker 8: never been more intense. Number One, if it's another game
Speaker 8: where you walk away from it going the Bengals are
Speaker 8: not prepared, or if the adversity builds and we see
Speaker 8: and we start to see guys check out, or we
Speaker 8: start to see fractures among the team, or we start
Speaker 8: to see sideline meltdowns, all of which are a natural byproduct.
Speaker 8: Tony Urana one team team, you know what it's like.
Speaker 8: I'm I've never thought boy Zach has lost his team,
Speaker 8: but I could certainly see them getting to a point
Speaker 8: where we say that about this team and this coach
Speaker 8: this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that is the worst case scenario for today,
Speaker 3: that they don't only get beat, but they get beat
Speaker 3: and it feels more like the last two weeks. And
Speaker 3: if so, can you go back and triple down on
Speaker 3: Jake Browning? If so, do you still have the locker room?
Speaker 3: If so, how's the foundation holding up? All to me? Terrifying, right,
Speaker 3: for Game five, Game five of the season.
Speaker 8: That's the thing, Like we often talk about these things
Speaker 8: in November or in December, this is this is game five.
Speaker 8: It's also tony like this team hasn't played well this year. Yeah,
Speaker 8: they were not very good offensively against the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 8: They did enough to beat the Jacksonville Jaguars. I hate
Speaker 8: to say they got lucky. Thomas makes a catch, the
Speaker 8: Jaguars close them out, they win that football game. I
Speaker 8: just I've seen nothing from the Bengals in the two
Speaker 8: hundred and forty minutes I've watched them play this year
Speaker 8: that feels like they can beat a team of this caliber,
Speaker 8: even on their home field. And I think I would
Speaker 8: feel that way even if number nine were playing. Yeah,
Speaker 8: sobering it is.
Speaker 7: And then you wonder, as we already have, you wonder
Speaker 7: even more, how bad might it get?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And what those conversations and those press conferences and
Speaker 3: that weekly message is gonna be going forward with so
Speaker 3: many games left? Uh huh, how can you keep people interested?
Speaker 3: It's gonna be the same we're seeing in Baltimore. There's
Speaker 3: there's almost eight minutes left in the third quarter. Texans
Speaker 3: are driving up thirty one to three, that could be
Speaker 3: thirty eight to three in a couple minutes.
Speaker 8: But you know what, I have seen their head coach
Speaker 8: almost win a playoff game without Lamar Jackson. I mean,
Speaker 8: John Harball's taking some hit now in Fine. It eventually
Speaker 8: is gonna, you know, swing to the head coach. But
Speaker 8: I bring it back to something I talked about earlier
Speaker 8: with you. I've seen Zach Taylor piece together a game
Speaker 8: plan and in a performance that has put his team
Speaker 8: in a position to win a football game that it's
Speaker 8: not supposed to.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 7: I've seen him do it before, and I still don't
Speaker 7: trust him to do it today.
Speaker 3: I'm watching the Culture up twenty six to three with
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones as their quarterback, right, How like that Daniel
Speaker 3: Jones lou An Arrumo, who wasn't good enough to coach here?
Speaker 3: Outcast by the Bengals good defense. It happens everywhere around
Speaker 3: the NFL.
Speaker 7: By the way.
Speaker 8: That Broncos team that we watched last bad matchup of course, yes,
Speaker 8: now down seventeen to three on the road to the
Speaker 8: Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, doing nothing offensive?
Speaker 8: Bad, bad matchup, terrible matchup, terrible matchups? What would the
Speaker 8: excuse be today four to twenty five. Starts are tough.
Speaker 8: You know, they had all their practices in the morning
Speaker 8: that they can morning practice. Morning practice is not fair.
Speaker 8: They're making them play at four twenty Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3: Scheduling as tough. Time is tough. Uh, short week Monday
Speaker 3: night football to Sunday at four twenty five is tough.
Speaker 3: Just a lot of things working against the Bengals. Will
Speaker 3: we see Brett Rippon today? Yes, I think we will.
Speaker 3: Third quarter, I think so, Brett.
Speaker 7: What will the score be by the time we see
Speaker 7: Brett Rippon in the third quarter?
Speaker 3: Thirty one to three.
Speaker 7: I just pulled.
Speaker 3: What the Ravens are doing right now? We're we're winning.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're up. We're up thirty one three. So
Speaker 3: they're like, all right, ripping, get some reps.
Speaker 7: Yeah, pull, pull, Jake, don't put them in harm's way.
Speaker 3: Get set. The green beads and golf have been pulled already.
Speaker 3: Lions want to protect them. This is the This is
Speaker 3: the game that solidifies the legacy of Zach Taylor.
Speaker 7: It is and I love being here, and I you know,
Speaker 7: this is great.
Speaker 8: Back in May, I kept thinking about this week, how
Speaker 8: much fun this game was going to be and how
Speaker 8: it was going to be like one of those like
Speaker 8: regular season battles where you felt like, you know what,
Speaker 8: both those teams got a shot, Both those those teams
Speaker 8: might play each other again, and it's framed completely different.
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Speaker 7: Bengals and Lions are coming up. Can Cincinnati pull off
Speaker 7: the upset and end of two game losing screen?
Speaker 3: Can we finished with like a hooday?
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Speaker 68: this would be a Super Bowl preview, but with the
Speaker 68: injury to Joe Burrow, the Bengals just want to focus
Speaker 68: on winning this game. After two disappointing outings versus the
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Speaker 7: Gentlemen, thank you box.
Speaker 3: Good to be back home. The Bengals have won their
Speaker 3: only home game this year. They beat Jacksonville in Week two.
Speaker 64: They scored thirty one points in that game and Dave Lapham,
Speaker 64: it's probably going to take something like thirty one points
Speaker 64: for the offense to win today.
Speaker 3: This Detroit team, it's awesome on offense,