1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Just in case you missed it, it's the top five 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: spour sawers of the day. But now it's time for 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Dan Barrero's Top five and five brought to you by 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Gutter Helmet of Minnesota. Never clean your gutters again. Learn 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: more at gutter helmet dot com. 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: Cassie is in the house. He will join us probably 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: after the top five at five. We're out at six 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 2: four Golden Gopher Men's basketball. Thanks Mae. We'll see you 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: next week. What do you got, Guardie? 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 3: Donovan Jackson did not participate in practice today. He has 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: an ankle injury. Levi Drake Rodriguez. He must have heard 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: his neck yesterday talking with us. He did not participate 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 3: with a neck injury today. Jonathan Allen didn't. That was 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: not injury related. He gets to rest. 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 2: You think it is because he had to crane his 16 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: neck in my direction. I was like to his amazing right, 17 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: and he got like a you know, kink in your 18 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: neck from like extending it too far. 19 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: You should have done what Seaffert didn't, just completely turn 20 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: his back to me. 21 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: He's mad at you about that, by the way, Why well, 22 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: because you were You made it sound like he he 23 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: took it as an insult. The thing you said, I 24 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: think it's Kevin Seaffert, you know, Life of a Producer. Yeah, 25 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: and so he was like, wow, you know, I think 26 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: he's a little down about it. I mean he might 27 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: want to here's the thing. He's not used to it 28 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: because he never comes to the State Fair. That's a 29 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: continuation of the State Fairs series. 30 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 4: That's true. 31 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: And I forgot to bring that up though you still 32 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: haven't a weird alse the ultimate test, Yeah, the Weird House. 33 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: So we'll do that next week. 34 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: But that's the because, as you know, where I sit 35 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: at the State Fair was essentially where I sat yesterday 36 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 3: to your left. 37 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: Yes, that's true. 38 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: One chair over, two chairs over, and every guest that 39 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: we have just turns and stares at you, which is fine. 40 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: It's get yeah, you're right. 41 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 3: Do life is a producer and it happens every single day. 42 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: Kessler actually sometimes fans out and stands. He does, he's 43 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: got to move a little. Actually, he's the one guy 44 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: that really hasn't been part of Life of a Producer. 45 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: But Seafer is just not used to it. 46 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: Because as I'm sitting there, I said, I feel like 47 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: I'm back in Carousel Park. Yeah, I don't think he 48 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: necessarily meant it as a slight Nope, it's just a 49 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: continuation of just a brilliant bit over the years, the 50 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: life of a producer series, sitting in the. 51 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: War question but waiting for it. 52 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, JJ McCarthy full correct? Did you 53 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: say that already? Well, he was actually limited, but it 54 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: had nothing to. 55 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 4: Do with injury. 56 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: Owe that coming, full participant, That's yeah, that's all, that's all. 57 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 3: I really was like able for sure. Well, I was 58 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: gonna say Brosmor was not limited as well. Would you 59 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: have had the conies to say that? Yeah, because that 60 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: won't affect how much I like him. Yeah, it's too 61 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: easy of a too easy of a line. But we 62 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: Darris saw it was full today too, by the way, also, 63 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: which is important. 64 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: Yes, by all accounts, McCarthy will start yes on Sunday 65 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: against Washington. And do we know whether Daniels starting or not. 66 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 2: Daniels's he was limited and practiced today. I'm glad you asked. 67 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: He was limited with his left elbow injury. So that's 68 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: the Vikings injury report. 69 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: The wild one last night, one zero, the Great Wall 70 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: of Saint Paul, brilliant again four shutout in six games, 71 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: picking up right where he left off in December from 72 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: November when he won the Rookie of the Month award 73 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: and the Wolves won last night in overtime at the 74 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: All was difficult to play Smoothie King Arena. 75 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: There are eight people in New Orleans. They were quiet, 76 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: They're a mess, and they obviously, uh, they're they're superstar 77 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 2: alleged superstar player. He's out again. Correcton Williams. Williams for 78 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, they it was a play with 79 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: your food game. And then I'll be honest, they they 80 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: would not have even wanted in the in the end 81 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: if not for a couple of steals one Orleans and yeah, 82 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: that's those are the things that opened the door. Yes, 83 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: I think Dante had one as well. And then Edwards 84 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: was terrific offensively. Defensively, he turned his head a couple 85 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: of times and gave up the layups. His offense is 86 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: getting better. What I like, what I do appreciate is 87 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: that we said with with Mike Connelly who joined at 88 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: three point thirty, that he with down two Wolves have 89 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: the ball one last chance at the end of regulation. 90 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: He goes straight to the basket and scores wide open, 91 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: and the stat that Johnny Athletic reminded us of is 92 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: that that's the first time in his career that he 93 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: has scored either a game time or a game winning 94 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 2: basket with three seconds or less to go in regulation 95 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: or ot which is eye opening. I think a little busy, 96 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: But part of I would argue the reason for that 97 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: is he doesn't do enough of what he did last night, 98 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: and it's not always easy to get to the hoop. 99 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: I get that, but to me, that's what I want 100 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: to see more go downhill. But his intermediate shot rit making, 101 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: I think is getting better. I do sense that he 102 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: is getting better and he's much more comfortable. It's clear 103 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: he's worked on that particular shot. But their defense was 104 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: a mess in the first half, and an even slightly 105 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: better team they would not have been able to come 106 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: back and steal that game. 107 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: His finishing at the rim has gotten a lot better too, 108 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 3: that he's finishing in all kinds of different ways. 109 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: He had one while they were making their run. 110 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: I think it was an overtime where he's on the 111 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 3: right side and he kind of eurosteps and then does. 112 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 4: Like a left hand. 113 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a nice on the very nice so smooth 114 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: uses the basket itself as the you know, to to 115 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: ward off the defender who goes back to the other 116 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: side of your correct Let's straddle and get to Kesler 117 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: because we're out at six. We are out at six o'clock. 118 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 5: Uh. 119 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: And then when we come back, we'll ask rose bowl. 120 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: Guy's got a question for you that might be well, 121 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: actually I should add that Kessler himself would like it 122 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: as well. What does that mean? And then we'll get 123 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 2: to a bunch of other stuff before we wrap things 124 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: up at six for Golden Gopher men's basketball against undefeated 125 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 2: Indiana University. I wish the American media would take a 126 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: great look at the views that the people in conference 127 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: and find out how they call America or anti America, Kuessler. 128 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 5: Because people have got to know whether or not their 129 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 5: presidents are proper. 130 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 4: Tear down the dish wall. I did nothing wrong the 131 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: Minneapolis Airport cemetery. Y're no Jack Kennedy Kessler, and. 132 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: Now to help Dan break down all the tough questions 133 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: in politics. It's our own Kessler political Walk. I feel 134 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: like a supermodel, except like times ten, it's Channel fours 135 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 2: Mad Kessler with Dan Morero. I'm a fan. 136 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 4: Many of us are frustrated. 137 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we are. We're all very frustrated, are we not. 138 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: Kessler is indeed back with us, and we're out at six. 139 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 2: As I said, for go for hoop action as we 140 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: like to stay in the business. So you're on your 141 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: way to the You're going straight from FID to the banker. 142 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: Actually will first big ten game of the year, I 143 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: know against undefeated in two undefeated. Stuff with Indiana come 144 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: from the idea, I mean, honestly, goodness, it's real. There 145 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: are a million things for us to discuss, some of 146 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: them more significant than this. But I have to bring 147 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: this to your attention. And you may or may not 148 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: know about this, because I know you've had a very 149 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: very busy day. But it falls into the classification of 150 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: what are we doing. I'll read you the the a 151 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: couple paragraphs. President Trump said today that he would pardon. 152 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: This is one of several Representative Henry Quaar, Democrat of Texas, 153 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: who was awaiting trial in charges that he and his 154 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: wife had taken roughly six hundred thousand dollars worth of 155 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: bribes from an azar by Johnny Oil Company and a 156 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: Mexican bank. The charges against mister Quaar and his wife 157 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: Imelda filed last year in Houston, centered on accusations of 158 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: bribery and money laundering. Despite mister Quaar's political affiliation, mister 159 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: Trump has expressed public support for him. Why would that be, Well, 160 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: here's the quote the Trump social media platform on you know, 161 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: truth social whatever, Sleepy Joe went after the congressmen and 162 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: even the congressman's wonderful wife of Melda, simply for speaking 163 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: the truth. Henry, I don't know you, but you can 164 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: sleep well tonight. Your nightmares finally over. So, in effect, 165 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: what we have further confirmation of is if you support me, 166 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: especially if you're a Democrat in this case having to 167 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: do with Biden era border policies, then I don't care 168 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: what you did. I don't care what you were convicted of. 169 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: I don't care who are what you stole from. You're 170 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 2: going to get a free pass. There's two or three 171 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: other examples just this week. 172 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 5: It's happening that what you describe is happening daily. 173 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 4: And here is what makes me very cynical. I'm sorry. 174 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 5: If you have more to read about it, that's plenty, 175 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 5: But here's what makes me really cynical. The Democrats were 176 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 5: distancing themselves from Quaar and he is announced after this 177 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 5: pardon that he in fact is going to run for reelection, 178 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 5: and Hakim Jeffery's the Democratic leaders like, hey, okay, we're 179 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 5: with yeah, So all is forgiven, all is forgotten. This 180 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 5: was an intensive investigation. The charges were serious enough that 181 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 5: the investigation revealed enough that they filed very serious charges 182 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 5: against him. And who knows where it was going to do, 183 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 5: but they have. He has been pardoned preemptively in his wife, 184 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 5: even before a trial, because he may or may not 185 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 5: have expressed some sympathy and support for the border policy 186 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 5: of President Trust. 187 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: So it took give me. I'll give you another example. 188 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: The is it pronounced genteel, David Genteel. The commutation Trump 189 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: issued to him wipes away all further fines and restitution. 190 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: He had been sentenced to seven years for his role 191 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: in a one point six billion dollar scheme that defrauded 192 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: thousands of investors. Prosecutors had been seeking as a result, 193 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: fifteen point five million dollars in forfeiture. But as I 194 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: understand it, the way this is set up now there 195 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 2: restitutions off the table. Further fines are off that Tay 196 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: that's correct in that case. 197 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 5: That's why are we living in here now and we 198 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 5: haven't even begun to talk about then deformer Honduran president convicted, 199 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 5: indicted and convicted by United on what drug smuggling? 200 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I thought we were blowing drugs because 201 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 2: we don't might know other countries sending stuff to our 202 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: shores that are killing our kids. 203 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: We have to talk about this. 204 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 5: And why would did the President Trump say he's pardoning 205 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 5: the Honduran president. Well, it's because Joe Biden, he, according 206 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 5: to him, rigged the charges and he they went after 207 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 5: him aggressively. And so if anybody, if you're listening and 208 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 5: neither got some federal charge against you during the Biden administration, 209 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 5: you might as well put. 210 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 2: In for it. 211 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 4: Now you got a shot. 212 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 5: That's that's That one is the one that I don't 213 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 5: It's inexplicable to me. And there's a disconnect because I 214 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 5: think there was really substantial evidence that this Honduran president 215 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 5: was working with the drug cartels, taking massive bribes to 216 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 5: allow drugs to go through Honduras into the United States. 217 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 5: So no boat's getting blown up over there, for sure. 218 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 5: All right, let's get more local. That's really his pointing, 219 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 5: it's yeah, it's again. 220 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 2: I mean, and the Trump folks in the audience, I'll 221 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 2: just say, we're just all I'm trying to do here 222 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 2: is follow the story. Don't don't shoot the messenger here 223 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: on these are real, These are these stories are happening 224 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: in real time. I can't I'm not making them unth 225 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: And at some point you go, well, that's a little curious, 226 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: isn't it, at the very least, even if you're a supporter. 227 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 2: But that's just me, all right. So let's get to 228 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: the brewing. It appears local story involving ICE and response 229 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: also I think from the Minneapolis Police Department. Bring us 230 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: up to date on where this story is and whether 231 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: we are headed for some serious confrontation. 232 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: I think this is very serious. 233 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 5: What was about to happen in the United States, something 234 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 5: that President Trump in It's going to be happening in Minneapolis, 235 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 5: something that President Trump has been forecasting signaling for the 236 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 5: last few days. Let's go to the headline, about one 237 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 5: hundred ICE agents are going to be deployed to Minneapolis St. 238 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 5: Paul starting this week now today's Wednesday. It could happen 239 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 5: very very soon. It is an escalation of the president's 240 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 5: social media, on his true social and in the cabinet 241 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 5: meeting as recently as yesterday, with his language about Somali's 242 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 5: and Somali Minnesotans who are US citizens. 243 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 4: He is going to go after them with ICE agents. 244 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 5: And this is possibly going to be a lot more 245 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 5: tumultuous than we expect. It has been in every city. 246 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 5: And by the way, these are blue cities right now, 247 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 5: Chicago here. He's going to New Orleans today, I think. 248 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 5: But he says about Somali's, they contribute nothing, their garbage. 249 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 5: I don't want him in our country. He calls ilhan 250 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 5: Omar garbage. I mean, startingly, startingly cruel language from a 251 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 5: president we already know. Have we become numb to some 252 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 5: of the crude and clumsy and cruel language, But this 253 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 5: was way beyond anything he has said before. So what's 254 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 5: happening is that the Chief of Police of Minneapolis and 255 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 5: the mayors of Minneapolis and Saint Paul Hell the press 256 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 5: conference yesterday in which the chief said, if you see 257 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 5: people pulling up in unmarked bands and masks and military 258 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 5: and they're not identified as law enforcement officer, what did 259 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 5: he say? 260 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 4: Dan call nine to one one, right, what is that 261 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 4: going to do? What is that going to do? 262 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 5: I think that probably that that may have the that 263 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 5: that may have the effect of escalating all of this 264 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 5: a little bit. 265 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 4: And I don't know if that means that Minneapolis police is. 266 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: That's what he's going to say. Has has the police 267 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: chief articulated? Then what the sequence would be? 268 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: No? 269 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,479 Speaker 5: And so that's why we need to know because in Minnesota, 270 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 5: the policy in Minneapolis is that the Minneapolis police are 271 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 5: not here to aid in deportations and any kind of 272 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 5: immigration enforcement. 273 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 4: They're not here for that. 274 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 5: They're here to for crowd control. And in many other cities, 275 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 5: and I expect to see this in Minneapolis. People are 276 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 5: going to converge upon these scenes. But he makes an 277 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 5: interesting point that you can make here in the Twin 278 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 5: Cities and you can't in other cities, and that is 279 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 5: that we have a history of people impersonating police, knocking 280 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 5: on doors and then murdering residents inside a La Melissa 281 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 5: Hortman and her husband Mark, and then shooting the Hoffman's 282 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 5: the senator and his wife. So what's going to happen here? 283 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 5: We don't know why is this happening. It's been escalating 284 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 5: for a few days. He's in a serious feud with 285 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 5: Governor Tim Waltz, whom he called the R word. That 286 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 5: is shockingly insulting for people with disabilities and for families 287 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 5: like the Walls family who has a special need son, 288 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 5: many families, including my own, who have special needs, the 289 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 5: family members. This is what has happened, and that escalated 290 00:15:53,640 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 5: then with the National Guard shooting in Washington, which was horrible, 291 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 5: a terrible, ugly thing that happened, and it was an 292 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 5: Afghan refugee who was granted asylum in the United States. 293 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 5: That's where the floodgates opened with President Trump where he 294 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 5: is going to escalate this, leveraging this to do what 295 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 5: he has promised to do, shut down pretty much immigration 296 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 5: to the United States except for white Afrikaaners from South Africa. 297 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 5: He is talking about with Somali Minnesotan's, maybe we should 298 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 5: denaturalize them. We have eighty thousand Somalis here, most of 299 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 5: them and I can't give you the percentage, but most 300 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 5: of them are American citizens. 301 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 4: And what do you do? 302 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 5: They will focus on two three four hundred Somalis who 303 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 5: either are targeted for deportation or have temporary protective status those, 304 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 5: I think is where you're going to see a lot 305 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 5: of the action here, but it's going to be ugly 306 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 5: and it's all mixed up in the fraud that you 307 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 5: and I have been talking about forever, Yeah, for a 308 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 5: couple of years, because he says, the Somalis are ripping 309 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 5: off Minnesota and it's the Somalis. 310 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: All right, let's break, We'll get We have lots more 311 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: time to get back more on this story, and I 312 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: want a couple of other want to cover a couple 313 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 2: of the other stories with Pat Kessler. After a very 314 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: brief pause, stay time. 315 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: Final segment of the show, presented by American Pressure commercial 316 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 3: grade Pressure Washers since nineteen seventy five. 317 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 2: It's the Bumper to Bumper show wrap. Kessler is in 318 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: the house. Think of this commitment to the bit. He 319 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: is going over to the barn immediately afterwards. Games starts 320 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: to start at six. He's gonna be with us to 321 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: like whatever five point fifty four or whatever. We're actually 322 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 2: out of here. And yet he's not leaving early. Now. 323 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: He did confirm to me, oh that he might have 324 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: a quote unquote privileged special entrance. Why just assume he's 325 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: doing the valet parking tonight. 326 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 4: I would. I would say no, I would say say it, 327 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 4: but would you mean it? I would? I have my No, 328 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 4: it's even better than Valet parking. I have a next 329 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 4: to the US. 330 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: True, you have great parking. Yes, so what's freaky? Doing? 331 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 4: It does make it a lot easier. 332 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 5: It makes it a lot easier when you know when 333 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 5: the snowstorm is there, the blizzard, and you know, okay, 334 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 5: why don't you just buy some tickets? I mean that's 335 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 5: what I did. I pay for this privilege. 336 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not sure you did you actually buy 337 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: the tickets? 338 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 4: Come on, coy, yeah, season ticket. Older man. 339 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: You and Michelle calm Helgan, it has it stop bad? 340 00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 2: And they were in the news the other day. 341 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: What was the story? They weren't it was great public service, 342 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: was I'm not? 343 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 5: You know? 344 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 4: And and then you drive, then you drag the family 345 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 4: into it. Look at you. 346 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: Well the subject came up again recently. I wanted to 347 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: go about it. Somebody did you might have been Dan Minnesota, 348 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: might have had something anniversary. 349 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 5: One ticket away to a family member and a top politician, 350 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 5: and that's all they remember. 351 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 3: You let Hank get a hot dog in the Norseman 352 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 3: suite because it was Thanksgiving. 353 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 4: I mean, come on, you have to get fired. 354 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 5: And then this is the finest stadium and she built it, 355 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 5: uh in the United States and the NFL. 356 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 2: Right there does Chris Maddele, who I know reasonably well, 357 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 2: who has thrown his hat into the ring on the 358 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 2: Republican side stand without you know, as far as we know, 359 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: any political history or any experience running for anything. Is 360 00:19:55,119 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 2: it the kind of election year cycle where where anything's 361 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: possible given he does, in one sense have a fairly 362 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: high profile. But I'm just trying to figure out does 363 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: he have any chance or is he kidding himself throwing 364 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: his hat into the ring. 365 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 5: No. I think he is a formidable candidate with a 366 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 5: slate of people supporting him that are going to be 367 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 5: it's going to be really interesting. He'll do law and order. 368 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 5: He has the support of the police. I think the 369 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 5: Minneapolis Police Federation has endorsed him. He is well known 370 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 5: as a prosecutor who's very, very tough, including on crime, 371 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 5: and so yeah, I think he is going to be 372 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 5: a formidable candidate, and he is going to prosecute the 373 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 5: case against Waltz in large part, I believe because of 374 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 5: the fraud, the hundreds of millions of dollars of fraud 375 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 5: that I think leave Governor Waltz very vulnerable to a 376 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 5: Republican of challenge or a Republican opponent. Yeah, I think 377 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 5: Mattel is absolutely somebody who can make waves and make 378 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 5: a difference in this race. They're gonna have to fight 379 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 5: over the mega wing of the party. Well, that's well, 380 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 5: I've already seen who is the Republican. 381 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: There is a Republican I don't know if he's a 382 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 2: state Senator or state rep who has already said he's 383 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: already dismissed Mattel. Do you know how? You know why 384 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 2: I've here about this? The basis was he has contributed 385 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 2: to Democrats in the past and really has been a 386 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: quasi Democrat until this year. And I'm thinking to myself, 387 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: can you be that stupid? You're in a blue state. 388 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 2: Do you want to have an actual chance to win? 389 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: If you do, you got you have to cease with 390 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: these stupid purity tests, because you can be pure. But 391 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, in a state of Minnesota, you're 392 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: never gonna win a significant office again. 393 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 5: And I think when you're in in a position like 394 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 5: Chris Maddel is ye, navigating all sorts of attorney. 395 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 396 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 5: You know who else one of my favorite people who 397 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 5: has contributed to Republicans and Democrats. O your guy, Donald Trump, 398 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 5: Donald back in the death contributed tens of thousands of 399 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 5: dollars to Democrats. But one other thing, It's going to 400 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 5: be a fight over the Mega wing, the farthest right 401 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 5: of the Minnesota Republican Party. And you see who's filed 402 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 5: papers to run today. Another one of our favorite, our 403 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 5: show favorite, you're my pillow guy might well. 404 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 4: You know I say, don't don't dismiss that. 405 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: I am dismissing. I'm not dismissing them. That could be 406 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: he has no chance to win. That could have an 407 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: effect on everything on the people. The person that the 408 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: Republican Party nominates, yes or endorses. 409 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 4: Who knows. 410 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 5: When you have five ten people in a in a primary, 411 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 5: who knows which way it's going to go? Because I 412 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 5: think party endorsements are not worth much anymore this year 413 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 5: so or anymore after this year. So yeah, I mean 414 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 5: there's going to be a lot of people trying to 415 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 5: claim the endorsement of the Maga wing of the party, 416 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 5: although they have to walk a tight rope and thread 417 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 5: the needle here because they don't want to say, yeah, 418 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 5: I really am a Trump guy. Yeah in Minnesota, you 419 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 5: just you know, that's one of the things that might help. 420 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 5: So you go. 421 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: What they're going to do is go after walls. And 422 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot to go after. Well, that's 423 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: the thing, there is room there. I thought he was 424 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 2: not impressive at all on was it Meet the Press? 425 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: I didn't think I thought he was way too defensive. 426 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: Now and that segment he made it sound like, well, 427 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 2: I'm the law order guy. They're going to jail because 428 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: it's like, well, we had nothing to do with. 429 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 4: That part of this is the thing. Pardon me for anyrupment, but. 430 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 5: When does Governor Waltz clearly accept responsible build. 431 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: It at some level at least? 432 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean that. Yeah, 433 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 4: I mean, we really mess this up somehow. 434 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 5: And although yes, there have been prosecutions, Yes, there have 435 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 5: been court cases, and I think thirty seven Minnesota Somalis 436 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 5: have been pled guilty or been convicted. I mean, at 437 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 5: some point Minnesota has to reckon with what has happened 438 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,239 Speaker 5: over the last couple of years here and so far, 439 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 5: I don't think the Democrats have really done it. 440 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: By the way, Andy Lueger is going to be back 441 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: in studio with us tomorrow. The original plan was Tuesday, 442 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: and then I had to be reminded that Tuesdays Yesterday's 443 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 2: are to Toys for Tots Day. So Luger is going 444 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: to be in studio tomorrow. A lot of discussion about 445 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: New York questions. Yeah, yes, there's a lot to discuss 446 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 2: with them. 447 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 5: A lot well, talking about the good news is that, hey, 448 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 5: Minnesota's on the front page of the New York Times, 449 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 5: and a lot of bad news is. 450 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 4: About how bad we are. 451 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 2: A lot of it has been reported locally, so this 452 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: was sort of the national perspective on although there were 453 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: some interesting quotes in there that are extremely damning. There's 454 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: no question about that. So we'll see exactly where that 455 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: where that goes. You know, it was within just the 456 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 2: last how many weeks ago was it that tepaw was 457 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: on with my former partner Hartman Chad and basically said, yeah, 458 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: there's a lot of you know, there are a lot 459 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: of Republicans. I know that they want me to run, 460 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 2: but I I'm not an idiot. I will not be 461 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: accepted by the current Republican Party in the state of Minnesota. 462 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: And as long as that's the case, I got nowhere 463 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: to go. And we've kind of talked about this before. 464 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: And look, you don't have to love Temple Lenti, you 465 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 2: know you really don't. And you could say, well, he's 466 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 2: not conservative enough for me, whatever you want to say, 467 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 2: but I'm still stunned. I guess that the political the 468 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: report publican political operatives in this state, just from a 469 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: practical standpoint, say we want to get in there or not, 470 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: and if we do, then he represents exactly the section 471 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: of the party that we need to emphasize again or 472 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: to reintroduce. Maybe and maybe that's incompatible with in a 473 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: maga world. Maybe that's the bottom line is the two 474 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,239 Speaker 2: sides won't look but cannot coexist. But he has as 475 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: much said, and he ain't exactly a lefty Tepau. 476 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 4: Has said absolutely not. 477 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: I can't. I can't win here. I can't. 478 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 4: They don't. 479 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: This isn't this isn't me, this isn't I'm not going 480 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: to do the ideological purity test that you're looking for 481 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: or get into some of the social issues that I 482 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: don't think are are worthy of our time. But that, 483 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: to me continues to be the essential question within this 484 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: state about the Republican Party. Is there anybody mature enough 485 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: to say I want to win and if that means 486 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: I have to quote unquote compromise a little of my maganus, 487 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: I'd rather do that. And to me, I don't know, 488 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: maybe Tipa wouldn't win anyway after the fact. Now maybe 489 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: it's too far past him, but what he represents is 490 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: exactly where to me the party has to go, because, 491 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: as you said, I think deep down there's a lot 492 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 2: of Democrats who wish that Walls was not running. That's 493 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: absolutely true, and there's never there's never been I think, 494 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 2: greater vulnerability for a lot of reasons. But you're back 495 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 2: to are you gonna if you can't capitalize on this now, 496 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: I don't know that you're ever going to have a 497 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: better chance. 498 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 5: Well, for those who don't know or have forgotten, the 499 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 5: Governor Polenti, Tim Polenti is the last Republican to win 500 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 5: statewide in the state of Minnesota. 501 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 4: How many years was that? Twenty years ago? 502 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 5: And the last state wide winner, and he states something 503 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 5: that is absolutely true that the cont the party has 504 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 5: been taken over by Trump supporters and mega but there 505 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 5: is absolute room for someone who is a moderate who 506 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 5: can and he's thread the needle very very well, supporting 507 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 5: trumps policies and gently pushing back when he had to 508 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 5: against some of the craziness coming out of Washington. Somebody 509 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 5: who can gain the moderate Republicans, a lot of the Independents, 510 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 5: and perhaps some more conservative Democrats. But the guy knows 511 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 5: how to count, he knows what's up, what the real 512 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 5: story is, So he would be somebody who would be kind. 513 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 4: Of interesting to run for the United States Senate. 514 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 5: I do think Republicans have some people like him, if 515 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 5: they can unchain themselves and somehow appease the right wing 516 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 5: of the party and yet appeal to the independence and 517 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 5: moderate Democrats. That's the only way you're going to win, 518 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 5: because all the Democrats, all the votes, most of the 519 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 5: votes are in Duluth, twin cities, Rochester, and that's where 520 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:56,239 Speaker 5: the votes are. 521 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: Got to get them six or five. I had a 522 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: bunch of attacks. I've responded to some them, but not 523 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: all of them, and a couple of people have acknowledged 524 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: my response and grudgingly agreed. If the allegation is that 525 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: this program, whether you're on or not, has not discussed 526 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: in depth, frequently defeeding our future scandal and several other 527 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: scandals in the state of Minnesota, to the point where 528 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: one of the T shirt possibilities we had for the 529 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: State Fair was Land of ten thousand Scandals. Yes, then 530 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: you're you're you're living in that that that make believe 531 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: world where you want to lash out and pretend that 532 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: that subject is being ignored. As I mentioned, Andy Lueger 533 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: is going to be back on it tomorrow, and he's 534 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: been front and center through all of this stuff. So 535 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: we've had plenty because the text we're getting kind of is, 536 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: I guess you don't want to have Kessler comment on 537 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: the billions of dollars a fraud committed by the Somali 538 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: Where have you my community as Somali community. It's rationale 539 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: for targeting these individuals. Now here's the problem with that. 540 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: You're not asking if you were asking that those individuals 541 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: responsible for crimes would be would be targeted by the 542 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: FEDS in this case, starting with Andy Lueger, and that 543 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: was a Joe Thompson afterwards, Yep, you'd say, yeah, that's 544 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: what you do. The issue is in front of us is. 545 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: Many of the texts are well on the basis of 546 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: that story in which there was there were many Somalis involved. 547 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: As a New York Times story laid out with a 548 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: couple of interesting quotes, means that everybody with any Samalian 549 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: connections get. 550 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 4: Them out of here. 551 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: That's madness, that's stupidity. That's for me, insanity, And in fact, 552 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: I think it damages the case in going after the 553 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: individuals responsible for stealing millions and millions into probably, you know, 554 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: eventually billions of dollars. So I don't think that should 555 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: be that difficult to be able to separate those two issues, 556 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: but for a lot of people it's impossible. 557 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 4: Well, a couple of things can be true at once. 558 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 5: Number one, for those who are just waking up to 559 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 5: this story now since it was on the front page 560 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 5: of the New York Times and then the County Highway 561 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 5: the Christopher RUFO website. For those of you who are 562 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 5: just waking up to it, Minnesota media and this program 563 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 5: have done hundreds of stories about this over the years. 564 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 4: So that is true. 565 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 5: But something else could also be true. And this is 566 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 5: something that you kind of got to get at. Why 567 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 5: is this fraud still happening. What is it about this 568 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 5: that allows this fraud to continue happening? And is there 569 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 5: something endemic in our state government? And I don't think 570 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 5: that story has really now we haven't really gotten to that. 571 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 4: Is it because we. 572 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 5: Are all in this state such super liberals, lefties that 573 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 5: we don't want to offend the Somalis or people of color. 574 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 5: That has been suggested is because the Somalis come from 575 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 5: a lawless country refuge here, and the President suggests that maybe. 576 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 4: That's part of it. I mean, what is it, right? 577 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: I still still a story to be done. 578 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 4: You're right? 579 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 5: I mean so that too, yes, But finally that has 580 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 5: nothing to do with people of color from Somalia being garbage, 581 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 5: as the President is saying, So all of these things 582 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 5: can be true, and all of our listeners and we're 583 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 5: all smart enough, we can we can have some nuance here, 584 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 5: should be able to say some stuff is real and 585 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 5: something else can be real. At the same time, I 586 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 5: don't think we've gotten to the bottom of why all 587 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:39,719 Speaker 5: this happened. 588 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 4: Oh well, I think that's a good story. 589 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: Andy has talked about it before. I do think a 590 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 2: component of it was there was great fear the time 591 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: story suggested, well, these are democratic votes that we might 592 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: be losing. That's another thing that needs to be explored. 593 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: And part of it was as soon as some of 594 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 2: the pushbacks started, there was a concern about, well, I'm 595 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: going to be branded, despite my blue blood politically as 596 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: a racist. Yes, if we go after this, and as 597 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: Luger has said, you have to dismiss that on the 598 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: you cannot be cowed by that because in the end, 599 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: a lot of people who needed these services and help, 600 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 2: and many of them may have been people of color, lose. 601 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 602 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 5: So one of the things about this, and that's absolutely true, 603 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 5: do we get to the part where we didn't want 604 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 5: to investigate this as state government because of that, And 605 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 5: in fact, we talked a few weeks ago about there 606 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 5: is some evidence that the Democrats actively kept this from 607 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 5: being heard in the Minnesota legislature and committees. I was 608 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 5: startled by the Minnesota Watchdog legislative auditor who said this 609 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 5: in the Star Tribune. 610 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 4: So there are many, many different parts of it. 611 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 5: I still think there's little or no evidence, as one 612 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 5: of these stories is saying that the money from feeding 613 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 5: our few future ended up with al Shabob, the terrorist. 614 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: No evidence, but about it again. Let's see it exactly, and. 615 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 5: The I gotta believe the Feds somebody as capable as 616 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 5: Joe Thompson, uh Andy Lueger or the current US Attorney 617 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 5: Rosen if that was there, they would prosecute that. I 618 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 5: gotta believe it. But if I'd love to see if 619 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 5: that's actually true. 620 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 2: That's all very true. So you're on your way to 621 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: Golden Gopher to the barn? 622 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 4: Why not? Why not? 623 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 2: Guards of your minds us that we lost our point 624 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 2: guard right he's out for the season. 625 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 4: We're down to is it? Seven players? 626 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 5: We don't deserve anything? Apparently, we don't think. Yeah, well 627 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 5: I got that alone, I alone. 628 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 4: The three of us have it? 629 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 2: Are you a barn loft guy? 630 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 4: Much better? I figured, you know, why don't you be? 631 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 4: Why don't I'm gonna watch. 632 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 5: What's I think it's btn take your wallet, retrieve it 633 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 5: from the bottom of the Dame of Cosca and that's cheap. 634 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 4: And just to spend a little money on some basketball tickets? 635 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 4: How about that? 636 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 5: No? 637 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 4: Would that work for you? 638 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 2: That's the answer. I think PJ said it. 639 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 4: No, I'm not going to do that. That's so good. 640 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: That is so I'm going to save my money for 641 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: which ball are you you rooting for? Well, I want 642 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 2: a warm Weather Bowl. I'm asking Guardan. I'm rooting for Vegas. 643 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 2: But they're not going to get it. 644 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 4: I would. 645 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 2: They'll be back in Arizona, Arizona. How about New York? 646 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 3: How about the That's a possibility, but I don't think 647 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 3: they're going to end up there, and we don't have to. 648 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 4: You have to about to Detroit, right, correct? We don't 649 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 4: want New York. I've been there, I know you. But 650 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 4: no warm Weather. That's that that would be awesome. 651 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 2: You would take well, it doesn't matter if you go. 652 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 2: You'll end up ditching Guardia anyway once you get it 653 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 2: means nothing to me. 654 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 4: Going to the Bowl against on the list. 655 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 5: It's just. 656 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 4: In New York, remember that. 657 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 2: I don't or it came to the TV show. We 658 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 2: had one segment left. I was looking forward to having 659 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 2: a drink with you guys after and you left where 660 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 2: and I were talking in the bar in New York. 661 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 4: I don't know. That's fake, just god fake fact in fiction. 662 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: As Mace, that's what he said. 663 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 4: Piggy there it is all right. 664 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 2: We're today for a Golden Gopher men's basketball action Indiana 665 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 2: in town to take on the Golden Gophers. We are 666 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 2: back tomorrow, beginning at three o'clock, and we certainly certainly 667 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 2: will hope that you will join us. Then. 668 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 4: I'm incredibly humble, little knidbits. Johnson