1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WVS Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: But my question is, how did the Pistons get so 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: good so fast? Years ago they were sellar dwellers, but 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 2: now they're they're like the team to beat in the NBA. 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 2: Oh well, what up? What's up? And down? What's down 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: is up? And what's coming down pretty soon is what's 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: called the Matthews Arena in downtown Boston, and it is 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: uh for many many years, was always owned and still 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: is in the minds of a lot of us as 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: Boston Arena with us is a member of Hockey Royalty. 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: He's a member of a royal hockey family, the Stewarts 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: of Boston. Bill Stewart a coach. No, no, it's only 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 2: going down here from here, Bill, trust me, No, only kidding. 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: A great guy, a great friend of many many years, 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: as they say, a coach and a referee, which and 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: he has the reason I say, Boston Royalty. You have 17 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: a lineage in your family going back to your grandfather, 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: who not only had pitched in the major leagues, but 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: had also umpired of the major leagues, took a few 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: years off to coach the Chicago Blackhawks and won a 21 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: Stanley Cup Championship long before Bobby Bobby Hell probably had 22 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: been born. Give us the quick genealogy of the Stewart 23 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: family yourself. You've got a couple of brothers who were 24 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: great athletes as well. I couldn't think of anybody more 25 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: who would be more verse that has spent more time. 26 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: You told me the other day, you've how you've did 27 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: how many games between baseball, football. 28 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: Basketball, overhund football, hockey, baseball, softball. 29 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: And you never made it wrong? If you've never made 30 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: a wrong call. 31 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: Right, No, as I said, one of the great things 32 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 3: about America. And I've said this to people when I 33 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: say I had to remind them I got paid to 34 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: stank and they was taking for free. 35 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: So a bad worthy. But that's okay. So tell us 36 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: about the family, the lineage of the Stewart family. Your 37 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: dad was a long time you know, coach at Boston English. 38 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: But before him, his dad just let people sit back 39 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: and let's hear about it, because I want to hear. 40 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: Then your your remembrances and your recollections of the Boston Arena. 41 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: I have some that they they are so slight in 42 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: importance compared to yours. 43 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: Go right ahead, I remember when you played Avenue Lewis 44 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: past Wolfpack. 45 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's my nickname was. My nickname was red Light. 46 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: That's correct. 47 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, went on there to the Harvard University of Longwood 48 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: Avenue College of course. 49 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: Of course, that's what they used to call Harvard, the 50 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: Boss State, the Boston State College of Cambridge. Yes, go ahead. No. 51 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: First of all, thank you for having me on to 52 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: speak about a building that is will forever be near 53 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 3: and dear to my heart in our family's history. My granddad, 54 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: Bill Stewart Senior, actually son. He was hired by George B. 55 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 3: Brown after the arena burned down and was rebuilt between 56 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: nineteen nineteen nineteen twenty one. And my grandfather had hired 57 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: by George B. Brown nineteen twenty one to help him 58 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: run the building. He also picked up refereeing and skating 59 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: and playing. He hadn't played any high school hockey playing, 60 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: didn't have high school hockey back when he graduated in 61 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: nineteen fifteen, and they s if they did, they skate 62 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: on Jamaica Pond. He signed as a pro contract in 63 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 3: February of nineteen nineteen with Charles o'comiski for six one 64 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars to pitch for the Chicago White Sox. 65 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: Went to Mineral Springs, Texas, made the team, was up 66 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: for twenty five games, get sent down and never made 67 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: it back to the Bigs, which was fortunate because of 68 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 3: the obviously the scandal that followed the Vola. 69 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: Black Sox scandal of nineteen nineteen. Yeah wow, yeah, which 70 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: all happened at the Buckschminster Hotel. We know here with 71 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: Ken most Quare because everything relates back to Boston. 72 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: Go ahead, bilty, everything goes back, Yeah, it does. At 73 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: the same time he was doing that, he learned, he 74 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: learned how to referee, and he started refereeing in what 75 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 3: with the Foe run into the American Hockey League, the 76 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: cannam League in nineteen twenty four. Became so proficient proficient. 77 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: Then he was hired by the National Hockey League the 78 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 3: referee in the National Hockey League in nineteen twenty eight. 79 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: He was the first American bond referee in the National 80 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 3: Hockey League. At the same time he was doing that, 81 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: he was an umpire in the New York Penn League 82 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: and got hired in nineteen thirty three to the National 83 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 3: Baseball League. We're t Empire from thirty three to fifty 84 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 3: four four Wheel Series, five All Star Games, and was 85 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 3: at second base when Bobby Thompson hit the home run 86 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: out of the Polo Grounds. 87 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: For Ralph Franca right, Oh. 88 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, who was absolute both of them, absolute gentlemen. My 89 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 3: wife met Bobby Thompson on a plane and she was 90 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 3: a flight attendant reason my dialing wife was a flight 91 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: attendant with Eastern Airlines. She met Bobby Thompson on a plane. 92 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: He signed a ball for me, so I have Bobby Thompson. 93 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: Ralph Franco autographed baseball his hockey career. He nineteen twenty eight, 94 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: as I said, in the National Hockey League, and he 95 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 3: did that up until thirty seven when he got hired 96 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: to coach the Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup in April 97 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: in nineteen thirty eight. In January thirty nine, he got 98 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: fired by Nathan McLaughlin. And at the same time he 99 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: was doing that, he was an umpire in the National 100 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: Baseball League, so he. 101 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: Was in time for spring training. 102 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: You know, that was good time, you know. Coincidentally, he 103 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: said that was the first time he got the spring 104 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: training in his career. He did four to five Stanley 105 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: Cup Finals. As an NHL referee, he did the longest 106 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: game ever played between the Montreal Maroons and Detroit Red Wings, 107 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: five over times. Back then you didn't have a zam 108 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 3: boni to scraped the ice, and then retired from the 109 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: National Baseball League in nineteen fifty four. My dad graduated 110 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 3: the Boston English Barnes Academy Notre Dame of forty three 111 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 3: higher than English High, in nineteen forty eight. Started coaching 112 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: hockey in nineteen forty eight and did so until nineteen 113 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: seventy two. At the same time he was doing that, 114 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: he was the football and baseball coach for thirty five 115 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 3: years at Boston English High School. And you know Dan 116 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: because he competed against them. His teams were always well prepared, 117 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: first class and very successful. At the same time he 118 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: was doing that, he was a three sports coach, football, hockey, 119 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: and baseball official, so he jumped from field rink, from 120 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: field to rink. And I was fortunate, being the oldest son, 121 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: just spent a lot of time traveling with him. So 122 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 3: by the time I was I was twelve, I had 123 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: been at every major campus on the East Coast watching 124 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: him officiate. Yale, have PM State, Et cetera. 125 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: That was an education of itself. 126 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: Well, you know what I was saying. I was telling 127 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: somebody that I was at the Green nine club football 128 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: dinner tonight. I was standing when I was fifteen. The 129 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: first game I aired for re f Reid, I was fifteen, 130 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: for a plate of beans and hot dogs between the 131 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: Quantt Marine football team and the Northfolk Prison colony down 132 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: at Northfolk. My father. My father used to volunteer his 133 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: time for the prison. He needed somebody, so I went 134 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: down with him. It was myself, my father and a 135 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: guy named John O'Toole at the time who happened to 136 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: be doing twenty years for mansquater. But so the next 137 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: week my dad did the Penn State Syracuse game at 138 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: Syracuse and Larry's I was a ball boy and Larry 139 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: Zunker ran me over on the sideline standing next to 140 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: Ben Schwatschwall. So I learned that had way Uh. My brother, 141 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: Paul Uh obviously had a great career as an NHL 142 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: referee sixteen years in the NHL. 143 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: UH and an NHL player NHL. 144 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: Player as well, yeah NHL and w h A. He 145 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: was Robbie for Taurrek's bodyguard in Cincinnati, and you know, 146 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: and then and now here's a kid that obviously he 147 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: graduated from Gratton School in the University of Pennsylvania. He 148 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: went to the NHL and became a fighter. During the summer, 149 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: when he was training, he had a in his garage. 150 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 3: He had a heavy bag and he would put plywood out. 151 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 3: He tape his hands up and put tape on his 152 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: skates and he punched the bag. That was his training 153 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: for the summer. And as I said to my dad 154 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: first night at the garden, you know when he had 155 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 3: three fights this first night at the garden. And I 156 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: said to my father, didn't you get his being your 157 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: bean for his educational dollars sending him to Gratton? 158 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,599 Speaker 2: And you oh god? Well, anyway, look, we're gonna we 159 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: gotta take a break here because I got it. We're 160 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: gonna be joined by a few guests along the way. 161 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 2: And I do want to talk about Matthews Arena. Dan Shaughnessy, 162 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: those who might have missed it, wrote a great piece 163 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: on December fifth in the Goal. But it's the end 164 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: of an era for Matthews Arena formerly Boston Arena, will 165 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: always be Boston Arenas to me, and other thoughts and 166 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: he talked, when you look at this building, I mean 167 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: Franklin Roosevelt, James Michael Curley, JFK. Jerry Lee Lewis all 168 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: played there. I didn't realize that Babe Ruth used to 169 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: play and pick up hockey games there, you know, over 170 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: one hundred years ago, on and on and all. General 171 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: David Dwight, David Eisenhower before we was president, spoke there. 172 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: And by the way, I played against the inmates at Walpole, 173 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: and I think it was sixty seven, so that was 174 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: a common occurrence back then. You can win and play 175 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: baseball against those guys. I don't think that happened these 176 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: days anyway. 177 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: I saw Bobby Ginden, who play with my father's English. 178 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: First basement in English. Yeah, sure, yeah, yeah. 179 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: He signed one hundred thousand dollars contract with the Red 180 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 3: Sox in nineteen sixty. Hit a hit, A hit a baseball. 181 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: Lefty Gil Day, the bank robber. 182 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 2: Bad against lefty Gil Day, I know, couldn't break a 183 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: paint of glass. 184 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: I was his bad boy. I was my father's bad boy. 185 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: And Gin didn't hit the ball over the fence, And 186 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: of course all the prisoners volunteered to go get it. 187 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Left. He told me after the game, I said, 188 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: you can go out and you could coach and left. 189 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: He said to me, kid, when I go out, I'm 190 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: gonna get drunk and I'm gonna rob a bank. That's 191 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: exactly what he did. True story, true story. We'll take up. 192 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: And that is one that I will take the lie 193 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: detective test on. Trust me. I mean he he couldn't 194 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: break a paint of glass at that point, but he 195 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: was a big bonus boy with the Senators Clark Griffin 196 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: in the early fifties. 197 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: You know, and you know I you know what my 198 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 3: grandfather was scouting for was the Washington Center. 199 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: This, Yeah wow, how about that? How about that? Well 200 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: he probably could throw a little harder back then, but 201 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: it's like must have been like an Eddie lowpad. We'll 202 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 2: take a break, Bill Stewart and I. The only thing 203 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: that's going to stop is his breaks of phone calls. 204 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: If you want to ask Bill a question, share a memory, 205 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking in a moment with one of 206 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: three guests, Jimmy Conley, who's a US college hockey He 207 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: writes for US College hop Hockey Online. We'll talk a 208 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: little bit about that. We will get to the Arena, 209 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: I promise, and if you'd like to join with the 210 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: story of two six, one seven, two five, four thirty six, 211 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty Coming right back 212 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 2: on night Side. 213 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 4: It's Night Side with Dan Ray, Boston's news radio. 214 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: Where with us is Bill Stewart for the hour. I 215 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: think anyone who's ever been involved in sports in Boston 216 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: knows Bill Stewart. If you've missed the introduction, stay with us. 217 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: Jimmy Conley uh has been a writer for US College Hockey, 218 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 2: which is an online a presentation. Jimmy only welcome to 219 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: Night's Side. Say hello to our good friend Bill Stewart. 220 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: Well, it's great to join you. Dan always listen to 221 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: this show for years in this station. It's great to 222 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: be on Besy and Stewie. Good good, great, great stories. 223 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: You get to tell Jimmy good to talk with you. 224 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: Jimmy, how long have you been writing? What drew you 225 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: to college hockey? I mean, college hockey is is a great, uh, 226 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: you know, sport, There's no doubt about that. And we 227 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: have some of the best college hockey teams here in 228 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: Boston playing at the Arena and at you know, various 229 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: college venues. How did you get involved in this in 230 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: the first place. 231 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a long story, but it actually 232 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: ties back to Matthew's arena. I I went to Boston 233 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: Latin like the other people on this station, and my 234 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: godfather was the hockey coach there, Dave Coleman, that not 235 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: just Boston Latin as a teacher, but he's Northeastern Hall 236 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: of Fame hockey and baseball. And I think I was 237 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: a six y of Latin. And he said, you know what, 238 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: we need to get this kid and make him the 239 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: water boy for the hockey team so we can be 240 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: around the kids that are, you know, have a little 241 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: bit of a cooler vibe than he does. So give 242 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: him a little bit of a social life. Throw him 243 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: with the team. But I stayed with them all six years. 244 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: Loved the time I got to spend with that team. 245 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: And then when I went to college, I knew two things. 246 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: I knew music, I was a trumpet player, and I 247 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: knew hockey a little bit from being around the team. 248 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: And when I went to UMass Lowell to study music, 249 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: I ended up connecting with Bruce crowd Of the hockey 250 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: coach at ums. Loll became his equipment manager for four years, 251 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: and then somehow parlayed that into a career in hockey 252 00:13:53,920 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: and with usccho I've been there now for thirty three years, 253 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: which is crazy. 254 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: I'll tell you had to cut of a lot of 255 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: orange slices in your career if you were the team manager. 256 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 2: That was the best part about about hockey games at 257 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: the arena. Behind the French fries which we could which 258 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 2: we would ingest between periods, I. 259 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: Think, yeah, yeah, there was a staple twenty five hands 260 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: a box and you just greased but delicious. 261 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: So so, Jim, what's your fondest memory of the arena? 262 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: I assumed that Boston Land School was still that was 263 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: a home rink for all the City League teams when 264 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: I was playing there, and when I was there much longer, 265 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: much before your time. I did not have the pleasure 266 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: of your dad as a coach. I had a guy 267 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: named Dick Thomas who went on to become the golf coach, 268 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: which I think was his first love at the University 269 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: of Miami. But it was a good hockey coach as well. 270 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: What's what's your best memories of the old Boston Arena? 271 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I just made sure it was my godfather 272 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: who was the coach of Boston Latin, not my actual father, David. 273 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: I I'm sorry, I no, that's okay. 274 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I wasn't confusing too 275 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: many people out there. But you know, going back to 276 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: that building, and by the time I got to Latin 277 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six, the city had moved out of there 278 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: and Boston Latin was in there as the sole high 279 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: school team. So and I believe that was Dave Coleman's 280 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: connection with Northeastern to keep going back there. So I 281 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: think that when when the Northeastern actually bought the building, 282 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: that I think is when the city league formally moved out, 283 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: and that gave Boston Latin really the only rights to 284 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: the high school scene in there. So it was a 285 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: little bit different. It was you know, they didn't open 286 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: concession stands when we played games. We only had about 287 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: seventy five fans in the stands when we were there, 288 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: so it was a lot different. I so my memories 289 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: of the arena that I've only known as Matthews, it 290 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: was more of the underbelly, you know, knowing those corridors 291 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: in every room in that building, Uh, knowing worry you 292 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: could find the good tape in the back of the 293 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: Northeastern equipment room. If if somebody forgot one, Hey, CFC 294 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: is opening, you know where they hide it. You know, 295 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: go find the good stuff, you know. And even and 296 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: then even in my days at Low, you know, we 297 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: as a as an equipment you spend more time in 298 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: the corridors, in the locker rooms and sharpening skates and 299 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: picking up laundry and all of that stuff. And then 300 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: and then it was finally being on the opposite bench, 301 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: having been on Boston Latin's bench for so long. So 302 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: it's there's a lot of great games, and I think 303 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: as a journalist, some of the best have been some 304 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: of the worst. You know, I can I can remember 305 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: a nine to eight or an eight seven Sunday afternoon 306 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: lost Northeastern Providence. Both teams had missed the playoffs in 307 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: Hockey East when they used to cut out both teams, 308 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: and they played the stupidest best hockey game I ever saw. 309 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: It was goal scoring everywhere, and I think there might 310 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: have been seven goals in the final three minutes. It 311 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: was a legendary game. 312 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: Wow, So did Latin School when when your godfather was 313 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: the coach, did they get their own designated locker room. 314 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: At Matthew's Arena. 315 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: We you know what we we had a locker room 316 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: under there. It was not really designated. I think it 317 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: was one of the extra locker rooms. By the time 318 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: I was maybe a junior or a senior, I think 319 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: Wentworth had taken that room most of the time and 320 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: we were just kind of bouncing around rooms. I think 321 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: Wentworth had finally moved there their varsity team, and so 322 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: by the time you know, I got there, it did 323 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: feel like you had the same place every game. And 324 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, when you think of where high school 325 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: hockey had moved to by the eighties and nineties, you 326 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: were in a lot of the MDC youth brinks and 327 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: not taking anything away from them because I grew up 328 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: in West Roxbury and in you know, High Park, Badgeco 329 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: Arena and all those remember, you know, those those buildings 330 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: that you know, Lars Anderson still is the one that 331 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: comes back in my mind. But you know, some of those, 332 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: you know arenas were not anywhere near as nice as Northeastian. 333 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: So I felt home games were such a luxury for 334 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: Boston Latin. You know, you felt like you were playing 335 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: in such a special place. And it was my father 336 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: who would tell me the stories of the old hockey games. 337 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: You know, he went to Brookline High and could tell 338 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: stories about going to the arenas and watching you know, 339 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: two games in the afternoon and you know two at 340 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: night or wherever it was. But he talked about the 341 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: crossovers and the six periods for two games and four 342 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: teams in the building. That just sounded so crazy to me. 343 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: But I've heard that story retold so many times now 344 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: that I've been in college hockey so long by like 345 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: legends like Dickey Million and Joe Britania and Jack Parker. 346 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: I love to see that those old stories that I learned, 347 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, came came fruishing. It was all Matthews. 348 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you it was. It was a great 349 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: place because it was indoors. You could sit up in 350 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: the stands and watch the other teams do some scouting 351 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: in advance for me for for your game next week 352 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: in some in some instances, Jim, great, great to talk 353 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: with you. Congratulations on your career and thanks for joining 354 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: us tonight. Bill Stewart, you're gonna stay with us, and 355 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 2: if some folks would like to join and offer their thoughts. 356 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: They're welcome to do so. At six one, seven, five, four, 357 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 2: ten thirty. Jimmy Conley, thank you so much. Great to 358 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: great to make your acquaintance. I graduated a little bit 359 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: before you, uh, at Boston Lance. We're not going to 360 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 2: tell you when, but it was back in the it 361 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 2: was back in the pre Dave Coleman day, so you 362 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: could kind of figure out I did. 363 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: I did know your alone, though, so that was it's 364 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: it's a real pleasure to be able to join your show. 365 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: I've listened to to BC going back to the days 366 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: of Larry Glick and Dave Maynor and you know, David 367 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: BRUDNOI so to join you guys, it's it's legendary. I 368 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: had a friend say, when you're on the show tonight, 369 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: say they tell them that Richie from Rosendale and Larry 370 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: Glicks that Hi. So for my buddy that knew I 371 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: was coming on. 372 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 4: I hope you heard that one. 373 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: Okay, that's okay. And more importantly, I was a hockey player, 374 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: so that's that's something that that I pride myself on 375 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: to have played at the arena. It's just when you 376 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 2: realize the real great hockey players who played there. We'll 377 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: be back with Bill Stewart, Jim Connelly. Thanks, and we're 378 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: going to be talking also with Gary Faye, who played 379 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: at Brookline High School, Boston University, and now I was 380 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 2: an assistant at Northeastern University. But back with Bill Stewart 381 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 2: and Gary Faye right after this break on Nightside. 382 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 4: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 383 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: We're talking with Bill Stewart and some other hockey guests. Bill, 384 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: how many different teams have have you coached, both at 385 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: the high school level and at the college level. 386 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: My first The first team I coached was Brock Academy 387 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy two. I was a senior at U 388 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 3: n H and I was fortunate they have on that 389 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: team a young kid from Winsor by the name of 390 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: Michael Risioni, who did pretty well on Leay to Life. 391 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: The next year I was the next year, I was 392 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 3: a teacher at Boston Latin School. You're Alma Mata, and 393 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 3: I was the assistant coach with Dave Coleman for a year. 394 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 3: We had a pretty good hockey player by the name 395 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 3: of Jack O'Callahan from Charlestown. 396 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: The nineteen eighties Olympic team for anyone who might not remember. 397 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, uh, you know, straight out of Charlestown too. 398 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 3: Jack Jack is done extremely well for himself. Great guy, 399 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 3: great kid. You know. Of course Michael Risioni is one 400 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 3: of the all time best. I went to Wellesley High 401 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 3: for a year, Randolph of two. Then I became the 402 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 3: head coach of touts, the club team, and then from 403 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 3: Tops to Curry College for six years. And I had 404 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 3: great run of Curry and then went to UMass Boston 405 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 3: for free. But then my jobs, my family situation and 406 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: started a backup. The court got extremely busy. I was 407 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 3: a progation officer at Rochester Court and our case floads 408 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 3: were blowing up and the gang problem was expanding in 409 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 3: I gave up the head coaching job, became an assistant 410 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: coach at Noble and GREENO for ten years, and then 411 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 3: Roxby Latin for seven did one year at need Him 412 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 3: and since then it's been a sign referee in the 413 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 3: Bay State League for the Base State Boys and girls. 414 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: Talk about a hockey life, Talk about a hockey life 415 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 2: with us as Gary Fay. Gary played at Brookline High School, 416 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 2: went on to do very well at Boston University, is 417 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 2: now an assistant at Northeastern. Gary Faye, Welcome to Nightside. 418 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: Bill Stewart is joining us tonight, and Dan Ray, how 419 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: are you? Dan? 420 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 4: Very well and thanks for having me and Billy. I 421 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 4: can't believe all the stuff that you've been saying because 422 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 4: I've known your family all my life, and you know 423 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 4: you talk about Dave Coleman. 424 00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: You know, he's a good. 425 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 4: Friend mine and his son wasn't all American at BU, 426 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 4: but you know, and your brother Jimmy was a manager 427 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 4: when I coached at Northeastern and Dan, by the way, 428 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 4: I'm not the assistant at Northeastern anymore. I was there 429 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 4: from seventy eight to eighty six, so I'm not there anymore. 430 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: To do it better now, Yeah, okay, but you spent 431 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: a lot of time there. I assumed that that was 432 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: the time of Frony Flemon and Doug McKenny, Jac Kenny, 433 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: John McKinnon. 434 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 4: So yeah, John McKenny. So you know you talk about 435 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 4: Matthews Arena. I was at the game Saturday night, I 436 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 4: believe it or not, had tears in my eyes at 437 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 4: the end. You know, I have the dual allegiances playing 438 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: at BU. I was on Jack I was fortunate enough 439 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 4: to be on Jack Parker's first team in nineteen seventy 440 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 4: three to seventy seven. And you talk about Arizione, he 441 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 4: was my roommate my freshman year and also played with 442 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 4: Jack O'Callahan, Dave Selk, and Jimmy Craig during my four 443 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 4: years at BU and then at seventy eight. In seventy eight, 444 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 4: I became an assistant coach at Northeastern til eighty six, 445 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 4: and you know, during that time it was sort of 446 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 4: like the renaissance of Northeastern, of both the arena and 447 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: the hockey team, because when Wayne Turner scored the winning 448 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 4: goal in overtime in the nineteen eighty Bean Pot when 449 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 4: the team was a seven and twenty two team, it 450 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 4: sort of opened up the pocketbooks of the Northeastern alums 451 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: and especially George Matthews to revitalize not only the program 452 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 4: but for the arena as well, because I played by 453 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 4: my high school hockey games you said at Brookline from 454 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 4: sixty nine to seventy three, and I remember fighting off 455 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 4: the wraps in the in the locker rooms. 456 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 3: So we're doing them. 457 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: And I have to say that the first when you 458 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 4: walked into the Arena. You know, you made Billy made 459 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 4: mention of this, but it was the popcorn and the 460 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: French fries. The French fries were the absolute best in 461 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 4: the world, absolute the best. 462 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 2: And easily digestible. 463 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: So I have to say when they took that Concessus 464 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 4: stand out, I saw it was underneath and I'm not 465 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 4: even going to say what I thought about it. 466 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: That's why it was so digestible. Well anyway, yeah, yeah, 467 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: what is your I mean again, you spent a lot 468 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: of time there as well. When it's going to be 469 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: replaced by a greater facility for Northeastern. I was reading 470 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: today about what the plans are, and it's it's not 471 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 2: as if they're going to demolish it. They're going to 472 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: take it apart, carefully maintain I guess some of the 473 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 2: structure in some pieces in some form of fashion. Guess 474 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: they're going to keep the arch, the iconic arch at 475 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 2: the old Boston Arena. 476 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, so they found that by they found that by mistake. 477 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 4: By the way, when the Matthews Arena, when George Matthews 478 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 4: finally put the money in, they started shipping away at 479 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 4: the bricks and found that arch by mistake exactly right. 480 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do not remember that from playing there in 481 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: the nineteen sixties. Do not remember. 482 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 3: People with Judge Matthews was also one of the founders 483 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 3: of the US football You're the Boston Breakers. 484 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: Oh sure, Yeah, Well it's as you as you know Bill, 485 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 2: You know, you involved yourself in so many different sports 486 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: at so many different levels. He's he was a renaissance 487 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: man as well. Gary, what do you think the future 488 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 2: for Northeastern hockey is two years from now, in the 489 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: fall of twenty eight when they're. 490 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 4: Helping up with the new arena, right, So that's that's 491 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 4: a great question, Dan, And you know again, I've got 492 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 4: duel of leegis instance here four years of bu in 493 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 4: eight years at Northeastern and at the game on Saturday 494 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 4: night afterwards. They were back in nineteen eighty two, fortunate 495 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 4: enough to be the assistant coach of the team that 496 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 4: won the ECAC Championship and made it to the final 497 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 4: of Frozen four as they call it now, and it's 498 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 4: the only time that Northeastern has ever done that. And 499 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 4: there were I would say three quarters of that eighty 500 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 4: two team was at the game the other night. A 501 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 4: lot of them came down from Canada, and we all 502 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 4: met for a few Coca Cola's at the Colonade Hotel afterwards, 503 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 4: and we were talking about that. And I have to 504 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 4: say that the coach, coach Keith, and especially the athletics 505 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 4: director Jimmy Madigan, who I recruited, by the way to 506 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 4: come to Northeast and from Henry Carr High School in Toronto. 507 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 4: Jimmy has done a great job not only coaching, but 508 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 4: now being an administrator. And I've seen the plans of 509 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 4: this new arena. It's going to be like forty five 510 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 4: hundred people for hockey and a little more for basketball, 511 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 4: but it's going to be almost like a full service facility, 512 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 4: just like buh has at againis arena not only for 513 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 4: the hockey and basketball teams, but for the students as well. 514 00:28:54,480 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 4: And I see once that happens the hockey team, you know, 515 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 4: people need to or you know, recruits want to come 516 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 4: to a great facility. And I think in the next 517 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 4: couple of years, once that's built, people will, you know, 518 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 4: recruits will flock to that place. And under the leadership 519 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 4: as I say a coach Keith and Jimmy Madigan, they're 520 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 4: going to do well. They're they're gonna They're gonna compete 521 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 4: just as hard against BU and b C and Harvard 522 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 4: as you know BU and b C have for for years. 523 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: Well, it's a great story, and it's a story that 524 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: isn't ending this week or this past weekend. It's the 525 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 2: one door closes and another opens. Gary Faith, thanks so 526 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: much for your time, great perspective as a BU player 527 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: and as a Northeastern assistant coach. And again Bill Bill 528 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: Stewart has been listening very attentively. I think that's the 529 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: longest that I ever heard Bill Stewart not talk. By 530 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: the way, I was. 531 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 3: More interested than what he had accomplished, because I know 532 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: some of the backstories too good. He was my brother's 533 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 3: roommate on the road. 534 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: So story his. 535 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 4: Brother, his brother, Jimmy Stewart was when I was a 536 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 4: assistant coach, and Jimmy Stewart was the manager of the 537 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 4: hockey team. And yes we were roommates on the road. 538 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 4: But we'll leave it at that. 539 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: Help you no need to. 540 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: Go any further. Thank you, Gerry appreciated. I mean, you 541 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: know I could have mirandized you there real quickly. Well, 542 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: Billy could have. 543 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 5: Actually, Hey, damn, one thing I want to say, my 544 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 5: brother who my brother Billy who Billy knows former Boston 545 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 5: police officer and now quote officer. 546 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 4: He listens to you all the time, and he has 547 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 4: some of your Dan Ray in nighttime t shirts, so 548 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 4: I know he's listening tonight. 549 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: So his first shout out too much as first his 550 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: name is tr tr all right. 551 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 4: And Billy right to see you and talk to you, 552 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 4: and happy holidays to everybody. 553 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, thanks very much. Bill Steward coming up on the 554 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: other side, and Bill has arranged all of these interviews 555 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: for us, and he's got to get a producer credit 556 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: on this program. We're going to be talking with the 557 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: former owner of the New England Whalers who is now, 558 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: amongst other things, a Hollywood producer. Howard Baldon will join 559 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: us on the other side as we wrap up our 560 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: recollections of Matthew's Arena, but for those of us of 561 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: a certain vintage will always be Boston Arena. We will 562 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: be back on Night Side right after this quick break. 563 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 4: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 564 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: We're talking about the closing of the Matthews Arena, better 565 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: known to many of us of a certain vintages the 566 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 2: Boston Arena. Bill Stewart has helped set us up tonight 567 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 2: with his recollections. Also, he's brought to us, amongst others, 568 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: our next guest, Howard Baldwin for the former owner of 569 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: the New England Whalers, which played at the then Boston 570 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 2: Arena in the initial year of the the w h A. 571 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: And of course the New England Whalers became the Hartford Whalers, 572 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: which in turn now the Carolina Hurricanes. Howard, you started 573 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: something big and you were one of the four teams 574 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: that was that became part of the NHL back in 575 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: the day. 576 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, and thank you for having me on the show. 577 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. What's your what are your recollects? Say 578 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: hi to Bill Stewart, your old friend here. 579 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 3: Hey there, Billy, how are you good evening? Howard's sure 580 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: nice to see it coming on. 581 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,239 Speaker 2: So, Howard, tell us about your earliest memories of the 582 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: Boston Arena back in the mid nineteen seventies when the 583 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: then when the Whalers were born. 584 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the Whalers were born in seventy one actually, 585 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 3: and we knew, we knew. One of our biggest challenges 586 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 3: was finding a place to play and remember why would 587 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 3: you remember? But some may remember that the Boston Garden 588 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 3: had the Braves, the Celtics, and the Bruins. 589 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: Well I remember that. Well trust me, Howard, don't worry. 590 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 3: I'm okay. 591 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: I'm on the wrong side of fifty two. 592 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 3: So go right ahead, okay. So we fortunately had a 593 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 3: great attorney and friend helping us out, Phil David Fine 594 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 3: and Bob Caparelleorge. He said, we'll get you some dates 595 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 3: in the Garden, but you're going to need to get 596 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 3: dates somewhere else. And so we immediately looked at the arena. 597 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 3: Jack Kelly, who was our general manager and coach, had 598 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 3: a history of the arena and Jack one of the 599 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 3: things that Jack said to us, we were very young 600 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 3: at the time, was if you're going to play at 601 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 3: the arena, I have a right to reconsider my contract 602 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 3: because it was old back in nineteen seventy one. Believe me. 603 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: In fact, when we got the team and we announced 604 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 3: we're going to play part of the games in the arena, 605 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 3: my father, who was class of thirty three at Harvard, 606 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 3: he still holds some of the scoring records there at Harvard, 607 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 3: but he said, you're not playing there, are you? My God, 608 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 3: that building was old. In nineteen thirty three, we said 609 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 3: we're going to play there. They and it saved us. 610 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 3: We wouldn't have made it without the Boston Arena. And 611 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 3: so I love the place and I'm so sorry, but 612 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 3: I understand why it's changing, but I have a warm 613 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 3: spot in my heart for the Boston Arena. 614 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: Well, you didn't have many many options if you wanted 615 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,479 Speaker 2: as the New England Whalers to play and the hub 616 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: of New England or was we like to think of 617 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 2: it as the hub of the universe. And it's still 618 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 2: you still had that. I'm guessing a capacity there of 619 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 2: four or five thousand seats. 620 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 3: No, we had more than that. 621 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 2: We had six I think, okay. 622 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 3: And the arena. The arena manager at the time was 623 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 3: a fellow named truck to me and I can only 624 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,959 Speaker 3: tell you, guys, he was a fabulous guy. And we'll 625 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 3: make this work for you. We want you here. The building, 626 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 3: if you remember it, was you know this, Billy. The 627 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 3: rink itself was like an egg and it was yeah. 628 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 3: And they said the state would make it a regulation 629 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 3: rink and they'd make it good for us, and they did. 630 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 3: They did a fabulous job for us. He fixed up 631 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 3: the locker rooms, and we were lucky to have the 632 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,959 Speaker 3: Boston Arena. We we we really, you know, we want 633 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 3: everything that first year and great creditors due to the 634 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 3: Boston Arena. They're having us play there now in the attendance. 635 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: If we played in a game, in the home game 636 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 3: in the arena, we would like to be drowsed thirty 637 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 3: five hundred and four thousand people, and in the garden 638 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 3: we draw min or ten thousand people. So Needa, I 639 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 3: say more. 640 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: I played in the I played in the arena in 641 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: high school, Howard when it was that dimension, it was 642 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 2: there wasn't much room in the corners, that's for sure. 643 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, well there really wasn't a corner. 644 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 2: I think you're right. Well, yeah, that's great, great memories. 645 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 2: And again you you were so instrumental in, uh, you know, 646 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 2: the expansion of the second big expansion of the NF 647 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 2: of the NHL with the Oilers and the Nordeaks and 648 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: I think it was the old Winnipeg Jets was was 649 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 2: the and you guys were the fourth team, correct, Yeah. 650 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 3: When we were in Hartford, there were four teams that 651 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 3: got in. 652 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Jets are now back in Winnipeg where 653 00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: they belong. 654 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you named them well, but let me tell 655 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 3: you there were a lot of teams in the interim, 656 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 3: a lot of stops on the road. 657 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Howard, thanks so much for joining us tonight. 658 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 2: We didn't even mention that you have also had a 659 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 2: great career as a movie producer, including a Mystery Alaska 660 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 2: and the great movie about Ray Charles, which was simply 661 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: a name entitled Ray. So thanks for joining us tonight, 662 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 2: and somenight we'll probably get here and talk about where 663 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 2: the good movies have gone. 664 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 3: I'll be happy to go on the show anytime with you. 665 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 3: And Billy is a great pal and I love him dearly, 666 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 3: and you guys are good guys. 667 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 2: Thank thanks so much, Howid Baldwin, Hell Bill Stewart. I 668 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 2: can't thank you for putting this together for us tonight. 669 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 2: I hope that it prompted a lot of recollections in 670 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 2: a lot of people's mind. I could have done the 671 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 2: show with you alone, but I wanted to get some 672 00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 2: other go ahead. 673 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 3: The only thing I want to say is that I 674 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 3: hate to see the building go. And I know for 675 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 3: a fact that change only comes easy to babies with 676 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 3: wet diapers. But it is time for the building to go, 677 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 3: and when it goes, there's still like great memories you have. 678 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 3: I have generations of hockey players and fans in Boston 679 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 3: have it from the arena, so it'll never go away. 680 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 2: Well, and Howard said the arena was old in nineteen 681 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 2: seventy one. Yeah, I felt old. It felt old in 682 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: the sixties, but it hadn't even reached I think it's 683 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 2: half life at that point, because it ended up one 684 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen years of service to Boston and to 685 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 2: Boston high school hockey players. And it certainly and anyone 686 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 2: who hasn't read Dan Shaughnessy's piece from December fifth about 687 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 2: the Boston Arena, if they've never been in the building, 688 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 2: never played in the building, they need to read that 689 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 2: piece to understand what a piece of historic legacy that 690 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 2: building represents. Bill Stewart, you and your family are a 691 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 2: great part of the legacy of hockey here in New 692 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 2: England as well and other sports as well. And as always, 693 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 2: thank you very much. And when I when I see 694 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 2: the Rat, I'll say hello for you. 695 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 3: Okay, please do that the rat. Thank you Dan, Thanks 696 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 3: for putting us on. 697 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 2: Thanks so much. Bill Stewart, Ladies and gentlemen, great, great guest. 698 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 2: He is an amazing individual and I'm so happy to 699 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 2: be able to have shared friendship with him. Tonight we 700 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 2: get back. We're going to talk about the conviction of 701 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 2: Brian Walsh. My only question what took the jury so long. 702 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 2: We'll be back on Night's side right after the ten 703 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 2: o'clock news