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Speaker 1: to remind you. Along the way, let's talk with the

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Speaker 1: man who's got it covered on the Bengals beat for

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Speaker 1: cl NS sinceiwdthy dot com, host of the Jungle Roar

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Speaker 1: podcast on YouTube. He's the man they call Trags Mike Petralia,

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Speaker 1: how are we doing tonight?

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Speaker 2: And you live Rocky. Sometimes he'll text you and uh,

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Speaker 2: the guy that's supposed to show up at the right

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Speaker 2: location shows up at the wrong law location, not saying

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Speaker 2: that ever, happen to me or anything.

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Speaker 3: I still blame Lance, Mike. I still blame Lance no

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Speaker 3: matter what is Mike, I wonder.

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Speaker 2: That let's go you shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's go big picture first. Paint us a

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Speaker 1: little picture. Give us a comparing contrast of just kind

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Speaker 1: of the mood of the vibe around this team. You're

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Speaker 1: around him every day from say two weeks ago to

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Speaker 1: now with the arrival of Joe Flacco, and how this

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Speaker 1: team has played since and where things stand.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a great question. Lance. That is markedly different.

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Speaker 2: It's markedly more positive. And the word I would use

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Speaker 2: is there's significantly more energy in the locker room because

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Speaker 2: I think the Bengals have been interjected with the sense

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Speaker 2: of hope that they have a guy in Joe Flacco

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Speaker 2: who has a strong arm. He's won a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: He's been through the Riggers, He's played as a starting quarterback,

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Speaker 2: He's played in on many teams as a backup. He

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Speaker 2: he still has this calmness about him and this leadership

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Speaker 2: that he can provide, certainly to the younger players. And

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Speaker 2: I think that was great last week before the Pittsburgh game.

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Speaker 2: But I think going out and actually having the game

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Speaker 2: Placo did, playing as cleanly as he did, watching the

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Speaker 2: offense perform so much more efficiently, and getting to win

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Speaker 2: in the closing seconds gave this team the sense that, Okay,

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Speaker 2: now we can get back to where we were posts

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Speaker 2: a pre Joe Burrow injury. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: the energy and the hope are the two things that

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Speaker 2: I've noticed pick up over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: And trags to that note with Flaco come in and

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Speaker 3: everyone knows how beloved Joe Burrow is and how loved

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Speaker 3: he is in the locker room, and how the players,

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Speaker 3: how he reacts with them, how they react with to him.

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Speaker 3: If you pick up on any similarities or differences between

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Speaker 2: That is a very difficult question to answer, Rocky, and

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Speaker 2: certainly Joe Flacco's been asked that question. We haven't had

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Speaker 2: the chance to interview Joe Burrow yet since his injury,

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Speaker 2: but Joe Flacco and I asked him this yesterday. He

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Speaker 2: is trying, I think, to give Joe Burrow his space

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Speaker 2: and not you know, step over any boundaries. And you know,

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Speaker 2: Jake Browning is a part of this equation as well,

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Speaker 2: because let's not forget after three starts, Jake Browning was

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Speaker 2: going on. But I think again, Joe Flacco, being the

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Speaker 2: He's very respectful of everybody. Uh. And you know, he's

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Speaker 2: not trying to be Joe Burrow. He's not trying to

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, the best way to put it

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Speaker 1: Trags. You talked with Dan Pitcher, Bengals up ins coordinator

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Speaker 1: he is two years just over two years younger than

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Speaker 2: Well, I think this is really about Joe Flacco. When

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Speaker 2: we're going to live to play another down. When Joe

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Speaker 2: He tries to force the play into something productive. Uh

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Speaker 2: And on the play he got hurt against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: You know, Joe Sorry, Zach Taylor and Dan Picture both

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Speaker 2: you know, that's one of the lessons I think comes

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Speaker 2: I think that's one of the things that Dan Picture

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Speaker 2: is learning from Joe Flacco is lived, lived to play

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Speaker 3: And you make a great point. It's it's even less

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Speaker 3: it's about Joe Burrow's health. Give up on one and

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Speaker 3: Zach Taylor or any football coach in the NFL will say,

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Speaker 3: you know what, we rather have you be healthy then

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Speaker 3: you you know, twirl around and throw a past seventy

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Speaker 3: They'll they'll give up that touchdown or even that win

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Speaker 3: to have a healthy quarterback throughout the length this season.

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Speaker 2: No question. And I think that's what the Bengals have to,

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Speaker 2: But you know, Joe Burrow is a stubborn athlete, and

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Speaker 2: I mean that in the most positive sense. He wants

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Speaker 2: he has that mind, you know, Rocky, he processes so

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Speaker 2: much information that when he processes that much information, he

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Speaker 2: And Joe Flacco's not like that. He is Okay, if

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Speaker 2: think that I'm curious to see how Joe Burrow plays

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Speaker 2: when he returns, presumably in mid December, if the Bengals

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to see if we see some very subtle,

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Speaker 1: Trag's Jamar Chase continues to be must listen to every

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Speaker 1: Thursday when he holds court. Today, tell explain to listeners

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Speaker 1: what he said in terms of his rate on Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow through this and what was his reaction to Joe

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Speaker 1: Flacco eating at restaurants by himself?

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Speaker 2: Great, Okay, First of all, Jamar Chase ain't going out

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Speaker 3: We learned that today.

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Speaker 2: And if he does and he's with Joe Flacco, He's

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Speaker 2: We don't need to be out in public looking at

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Speaker 2: other people. The thing he said about Joe Burrow that

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Speaker 2: that we saw before the Steeler game. That was pretty funny,

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Speaker 2: but it's Jabar said it's hard to read Burrows sometimes

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Speaker 1: Schamar Stewart return from the ankle injury. Didn't have a

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Speaker 2: Especially if they give Trey Hendrickson another week to recuperate

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Speaker 2: more impactful. He only played I believe, twenty two snaps

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Speaker 2: He also said the ankle, any ankle injury is a

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Speaker 2: going to go with Justin Fields, but we'll find out

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Speaker 1: All right, treg for everybody wants to read, watch, and

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Speaker 1: follow all you have. That's all over Bengals coverage. Tell

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Speaker 2: Well. We're going to have a story up shortly tonight

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Speaker 2: about Josh Newton talking about DJ Turner's emergent this year

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Speaker 2: as a star cornerback in the NFL. We're also going

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Speaker 2: to have a breakdown of the Logan Wilson trade demand

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Speaker 2: that Ben Baby of ESPN broke late this afternoon. We'll

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Speaker 2: and as always, the Jungle War podcast page at YouTube

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Speaker 1: Always fantastic stuff, Always good catching up. We'll talk again

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Speaker 1: next week.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, all right, gentlemen, take care.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Trags.

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Speaker 1: He's the man we call Trags, Mike Petralia, and that

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Speaker 1: is your look at the Bengals. Much more on Logan

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Speaker 1: Wilson and Joe Flacco and more as we continue. Let's

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