1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: The Fan welcomes Trans Siberian Orchestra for two amazing shows 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: at Target Center December twenty eighth, three pm and seven 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: thirty pm. Tickets on sale now can complete show details, 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: including a link to buy tickets kfan dot com key recount. 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: Well, if our next guest is at the arena formerly 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: known as the X, he'll be at the wrong place. 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: How could I forget? I mean, we just talked to 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: Billy Garran yesterday. Our favorite hockey team, the hottest team 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: in all of hockey, is on the road in Pittsburgh 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: to take on the hated Penguins. And that is indeed 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: where Russo Radio Now originates. It's the whole Fallness debacle. 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: Is kind of sad because yesterday I started the show 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: with very positive wild hockey conversation, especially involving the kid goaltender. 14 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: And then we also had Bill garn On and he 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: didn't hear the start of the show, or pretended to 16 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 2: not hear it, and then he texted guards Ye after 17 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: Garan was on, to say did Garon have anything interesting 18 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: to say? So you can't win with Russo with with 19 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: with fondness, I mean, it's like he wants to whine 20 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: and complain too much basketball talk, too much negativity about 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: the wild and then he just ignores it when we 22 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: go positive and doesn't even pay any attention. 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 4: No, he's just there to complain. I mean he and 25 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 4: everybody knows it. 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: I mean, Guestling ripped them, so everybody's in on it. 27 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 4: So like everybody just knows exactly what he is about, 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 4: and it's about negativity and uh, you know all that. 29 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 3: Type of stuff. So now fallness is the greatest. 30 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: Of course he is. I mean it's all it's all 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: meant and kind of good fun. Occasionally. 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you you rip people you love. 33 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they say. Anyway, that's for sure. A 34 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: question about that. 35 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: He must really really really love me. Oh there's rips 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: me every day he does. 37 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: He's kind of hard on you, isn't he. 38 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah he is. 39 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: I don't know that anybody's heart better, honest. 40 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think I deserve better. 41 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 4: I'm such a nice, positive, glass half full person. 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: Well you put him on the map. I mean that's 43 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: the thing. No, only no one even know the faullness 44 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: exists without you think about it exactly. 45 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: I mean, he got a bunch of candles, sense' That's. 46 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: My theory is he's now getting like ten to twenty 47 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: candles every year, and I'm out of the loop because 48 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: I got ripped for not sharing properly the candles that 49 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: came in for both of us. So I think it's 50 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 2: going to be held against me forever. I never get 51 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: any candles anymore. He still gets a bunch of them. 52 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure he does. Clearly, I've been in his 53 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 4: booth lately. He's got different sense now, So I think 54 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 4: that whoever sent you those candles to begin with, he 55 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: probably gave his private address to that person. 56 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: Well here it is, in fact, this is this one 57 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 2: of his burner accounts. Let's see, No, this is well, 58 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: maybe it is. It's a six y five to one 59 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: number listed as Guardsy's conscience, seven minutes late to get 60 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: to hockey talk typical. So if that's it's not a 61 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: fallenness burner, it's somebody on his behalf. 62 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,279 Speaker 3: So Garrin. 63 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: He said he was very disappointed to me yesterday because 64 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: he said I was way too positive and I didn't 65 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: have my usual edge, and he was disarmed by the 66 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: whole thing, was very confused by it. And I said, well, 67 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: right now, I mean it's hard to complain too much 68 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: about what's been going on lately. The question, obviously is 69 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: can it be sustained? That's always the question. But what 70 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 2: are we seeing is it? Is it all defense in 71 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: front of the goalies? Is it all goalies despite the defense, 72 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: or is it the proverbial combo platter that's gotten us 73 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: to a place where we are routinely yielding zero, one 74 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: or two goals rather than four, five and six goals. 75 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, I would have said to Billy, 76 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: give it a week. You know, yes, this interview could 77 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: have a very different tone the next week, very te 78 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 4: with me. Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's all 79 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: the above, I think. I mean, you know, after he 80 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 4: ripped me this morning for chirp this morning, for being 81 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: on the road, because I've done very few road games 82 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 4: so far this year. I told Matt Zucarella, I kissed 83 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: his button and told him that this was all because 84 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: of him. This is after Matt's decided to hirt me 85 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 4: for five minutes. But you know, like, I mean, look, 86 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 4: since they haven't lost in regulations since Matt's has been 87 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 4: back in the lineup. But I know that a lot 88 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 4: of us, you know, a lot of fans even rolled 89 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 4: their eyes that we were acting like that Matt Zucarello's 90 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: injury was such a huge deal to start the year, 91 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 4: but it really was. I mean, you know, and I 92 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 4: know that we're talking about a thirty seven year old 93 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 4: and all that stuff in the last year of his contract, 94 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 4: but he adds so much to one curl presofs game, 95 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: his overall mood. But what it does to the lineup 96 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,119 Speaker 4: on a team that doesn't have a lot of offensive depths, 97 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 4: so it now, you know, puts Boldie in a much 98 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: better spot where he's now freed up because if you're 99 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 4: another team, you're going to be really concentrating on Carill 100 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 4: on a separate line. And they've gotten more balance scoring 101 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 4: up and down their lineup because of that. But this 102 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 4: really does start in. 103 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: Their own zone. 104 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: In the neutral zone they've just been so you know, 105 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: I didn't like the way they played the other night, 106 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: but they won the game, so that's all that matters. 107 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 4: As as Matt Boldie said after the game, nobody's gonna remember, 108 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 4: you know, if they make the playoffs several months from now, 109 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 4: that they that they played bad and won that game. 110 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: Their reality is is that they've just been a much 111 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: better team defensively. They've gotten much better goaltending from both 112 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 4: Philip Gustus and yes per Valstat. Volstat's gotten them points 113 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: in all seven of his starts. They have a six 114 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 4: game point street coming into tonight's game. And it felt 115 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 4: like that loss against Pittsburgh on October thirtieth or October 116 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 4: twenty ninth, thirtieth, it really was the churning point. It 117 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 4: was the next day where jared'svirgin had the meeting, and 118 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 4: ever since they've gotten back to more of what we 119 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 4: expect their identity to be, which is in you know, 120 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: direct north south type team, hardfore checking, taking care of 121 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: their own end first. And they've gotten enough scoring to 122 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: to get through right now. But the up the it's 123 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: crazy the numbers the month in the month of October 124 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 4: compared to now, Like in the month of October, they 125 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 4: trailed in the second most amount of minutes in the league. 126 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 4: Now they've scored in ten straight games, scored first goal, Yeah, 127 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 4: scored first excuse me. And there you know their goals 128 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 4: against it's second in the league. Actually it's now best 129 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 4: because San Jose gave up a bunch of goals yesterday. 130 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 4: But so they've now, you know, in the last nine 131 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: games that they have a one point eight nine goals 132 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: against average. 133 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 3: In the month of. 134 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: October they were at the bottom. They're penalty hill in 135 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 4: the month of October was sixty percent. It's eighty seven 136 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 4: percent in the last nine. So everything about their game 137 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: has just absolutely improved here. So it's it's it is 138 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 4: a combination of everything. 139 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: Gus bus I think is starting tonight, and there are a 140 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 2: lot of people saying, well, why go with the hot guy? 141 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: But as you point out, I think, to me, what's 142 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: interesting is that clearly we're seeing the ascension of Volstet 143 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: to a place where whatever the percentage between the two 144 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: goalies was kind of anticipated as being before the season started, 145 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: I gotta believe it's gonna get a lot closer to 146 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty, even if it's not fifty fifty on 147 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: the basis of what we've seen thus far. 148 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 3: Correct. 149 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it very well could be fifty 150 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 4: to fifty like they are. You know, John Hines is like, 151 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: don't hold me to a strict rotation the way the 152 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 4: Carolina Hurricanes do it. 153 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: But it's sure sounds like that. 154 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, for the first part of the season, 155 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 4: other than one game, Vaalstadt was pretty much a back 156 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: to back starter and and now he's he's I mean, 157 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: he is going to start Sunday's game, most likely in Winnipeg, 158 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: with a day off tomorrow. So you know, that is 159 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 4: that's very different than what we saw. 160 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: You know. 161 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: The other thing that I think we all are forgetting 162 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: because Valstead has been so great here lately, is that 163 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 4: Gustuson's last two or three starts have been really really 164 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: good as well. So you know, in this type of season, Look, 165 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 4: we just saw Connor Hellibuck today. You know, tomorrow he's 166 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 4: having a procedure that's going to keep him out four 167 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 4: to six weeks. 168 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: This is a condensed schedule. 169 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 4: This year where it just seems like injuries are running 170 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 4: rampant throughout the National Hockey League. The Wild played an 171 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 4: eight to thirty game a couple nights ago. Players can 172 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: get back into their into their homes yesterday until about 173 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: one am. They flew here, you know, less than twelve 174 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: hours later, and then the tonight they fly to Winnipeg 175 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: for an after goodnowon game Sunday. So I think John 176 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 4: Hines was also looking at it like you know volstat 177 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 4: very well could have been you know, extremely fatigued today. 178 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: So let him work with Freddy Schabbatt a little extra 179 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 4: in the morning and and start us tonight and and 180 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 4: uh you know, maybe maybe they can get on a 181 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 4: roll here and continue getting a great goaltending from both 182 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: of them. 183 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: Are we happy so far with the year off promotion? What? What? 184 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: What's the scuttle but around the club? 185 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought he was really good the other night. 186 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: I think the line was great, you know, as as 187 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 4: John Hines said, it was a mixed bag, but I 188 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 4: really don't think it had a lot to do a 189 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 4: year off. There were a couple of defensive plays where 190 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 4: he got on the wrong side of sa Jackson Blake 191 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 4: and the wild got fortunate into those plays. But I 192 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 4: think that y're of you know, he gets an assist 193 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 4: on his what second shift of the game, he gets 194 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 4: another assist for his first career multi point game. I 195 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 4: thought defensively he was really good. Breakouts he was really good, 196 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 4: and supporting those two he was really good. So I 197 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 4: thought it was a really uh, you know, quality for 198 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 4: game for a guy that was seeing elevated ice time 199 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: that could have easily deferred to two great veterans in 200 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 4: Caprisof and Zukarrelo. But I thought he fit in really 201 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 4: well there. I love what I'm seeing off the ice today. 202 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 4: I mean, that's the one thing I do like about 203 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 4: being on the road is you get to see things 204 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 4: that you don't get to see at treer Rink because 205 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: you know you only get a certain amount. 206 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 3: Of access there. 207 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 4: But here, you know, the guys had an eleven to 208 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: fifty bus and who's still working out together? You know 209 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 4: at eleven fifty one it's Ere and Caprice off. So 210 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 4: it just feels like you're, like Caprisof is just taking 211 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 4: this kid under his wing. You could tell how much 212 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 4: you're of absolutely respects Curl, and that's the type of 213 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 4: leadership that you really want from a superstar for a 214 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 4: young rookie. 215 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 2: The closest I got to getting garin going yesterday, it 216 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 2: was about you're off, and I said, well, are you 217 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: guys gonna give I mean, you're gonna let him play 218 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: through the occasional mistake. I mean you can if you 219 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: it's a catch twenty two. You want him to get better, 220 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: you gotta give him a chance to get better. And 221 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: he very snappily replied this isn't a developmental league. You know, 222 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: nothing is going to be handed to anybody, and that 223 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: goes back to the central you know, balancing act that 224 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: you and I have talked about before, that there's some 225 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 2: truth to what he says you can't hand any there's 226 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: too much a stake. But on the other hand, you 227 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 2: do have to try to find out, and the only 228 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 2: way you find out is to let a guy occasionally 229 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: play through perhaps as lows you performance. 230 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, first of all, you got to 231 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 4: look at Bill Gharon's history, right, he grew up in 232 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: the New Jersey Devils organization and the New Jersey Devils 233 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 4: and Loula Amorello had a very big development plan where 234 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 4: guys had to spend time in the minors and develop, 235 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 4: and so that's just sort of the way that Bill 236 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 4: Gharon learned the craft. Then he goes into management and 237 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 4: right here in Pittsburgh he was in you know, their 238 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 4: their head of development essentially for years and so that 239 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 4: so he truly believes in a path here. But then 240 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 4: you also look at the Wilds organizational plan and what 241 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 4: you could you could agree or disagree if you're a fan, 242 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 4: I totally respect it, but they are in. 243 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: They are in a win now mode. 244 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 4: This is not a team that's just gonna be like 245 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: you know, first of all, they don't have prospects like 246 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 4: Logan Cooley and Maclin celebrany In these guys okay. But 247 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 4: the other thing is is that they're you know, the 248 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 4: San Jose Sharks, the Anaheim Ducks, these type of teams 249 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 4: that have stunk for a while that have had the 250 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 4: beneficiary of being able to draft at the top of 251 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 4: the first round every single year. They are in development 252 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: mode where they are willing to let these guys play 253 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 4: through mistakes, where the Wild just are not willing to 254 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 4: do that. And so you also have a coach and 255 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 4: I know Wild fans seem to think that John Hines 256 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 4: hates young kids. 257 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: Matt Boldi absolutely soared under. 258 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 4: Under John Hines. Marco Rossi had his best couple of 259 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 4: years under John Hines. He's playing ze boyam in on 260 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 4: a number one power play. I mean, there's only so 261 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: many kids that you could play and give them a 262 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 4: ton of time. So you have to bide your time 263 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 4: and then the wait for injuries and now don all 264 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 4: you're off because of the Marco Rossi and Ryan Hartman 265 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 4: injuries is having this. 266 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: Opportunity, so they are in a win win now mode. 267 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: But when you have a coach that's coaching a win 268 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 4: now mode, he's gonna go with guys that he knows 269 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 4: and trusts, and that's Marcus Johansen, that's tonight, Zach Bagosian 270 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 4: getting back in the lineup for Damon Hunt, who's played well, 271 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 4: but he's had a couple of really rough games in 272 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 4: a row. So I think for the most part, you know, 273 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 4: I think that John is doing essentially what he's been told, 274 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 4: what he's tasked with, and that's to get this wild 275 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 4: team into the playoffs so they can hopefully one of 276 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 4: these eons go on a run. 277 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: A lot of texts coming in Russell Radio is indeed 278 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 2: joining us from the road. Felino hasn't scored right six 279 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,599 Speaker 2: one two, guy worried or still contributing. 280 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 4: I think he's contributing greatly. I mean, look, the last 281 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 4: couple of weeks have been his best hockey. I think 282 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 4: the first eight or nine games, maybe longer, he was 283 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 4: like a lot of guys on this team that just 284 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 4: look lost, was trying to do too much, do you know. 285 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: Was on his own page he admitted that to me 286 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 4: and the story that I wrote yesterday about the team 287 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 4: meeting that him and Brock Faber and Jared Spersion kind 288 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 4: of unveiled, open up the curtain and let me in on. 289 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 4: But I think that even though he's not scoring, he's 290 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 4: been much better defensively and he's making an impact on 291 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 4: games physically. So he's looking much more like the Marcus 292 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 4: you know that we've grown accustomed to seeing in the 293 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 4: last eight or nine years that he's been in Minnesota. 294 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 4: So I do think that, you know, it's gonna calm. 295 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 4: He badly needs something to go right. Offensively, his line's 296 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: been much better, at least when you're off with centering it. 297 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 4: I didn't love them the other night with Trenion and Hennestrosa. 298 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 4: I think Trenion just looks awkward to me at center, 299 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 4: but they have no choice right now. But I just 300 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 4: think that Marcus is playing, you know, as well as 301 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 4: you can expect for a guy that obviously doesn't have 302 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: a goal. I know that that fans want him, you know, fans, 303 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 4: I mean we all, we all look at stats. Nobody 304 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 4: twenty one games into the season wants Akuseg and their 305 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 4: goal to column. He is not happy about it. I've 306 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: he mentions it constantly. I've never covered a player that's 307 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 4: in a slump like this that constantly brings it up 308 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 4: to the media. It was almost it's almost like a 309 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 4: disarming way to like, yea, if I keep on telling you, 310 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 4: you're not gonna rip me for it, you know, last day, 311 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 4: it's kind of. 312 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: Like that exactly. 313 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: But look, I mean, I think I think he's playing well. 314 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 4: And the one thing I know that wild fans have 315 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 4: asked me a lot about him and Hartman and potential trades. 316 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, Marcus. 317 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 4: Has a full no move But two, even if he didn't, 318 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 4: he's the one guy on this team that I just 319 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 4: think Bill Aaron would he could trade him tomorrow if 320 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: Marcus would waive. Like teams call about Marcus all the time. 321 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 4: Bill has mentioned that to me, but he just believes 322 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: that he's so important to the fabric of that locker 323 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 4: room that I just think that he would never move him. 324 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 4: And again he's not. I know that fans want him 325 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 4: to score, and you got a score, you know in 326 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 4: the league where there's four lines that are rolling and 327 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 4: he's on the third line and gets significant ice time. 328 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 4: But I think that you know, he impacts the way 329 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: the game in different ways beyond the offense, but obviously 330 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 4: they need him to start contributing in that way too. 331 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: Speaking of centers and lack thereof, this comes from Jacob 332 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: and maple Grove. Why did the Wild trade Freddy Gudreau 333 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: with the lack of center depth? What little they traded 334 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: him for. It's not like that was a no brainer 335 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: move to get rid of him. 336 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, in a lot of ways, 337 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: it's because of a lot of the things that that 338 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 4: the fans won, and that's not a guy blocking Deanola 339 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: you're of. I mean I think that Look, I you know, 340 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 4: it's funny that that that fan brought that up because 341 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 4: I've actually, you know, started to ask around the last 342 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 4: couple of days if maybe the Wild would want to 343 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 4: try to get Freddy back. And coincidentally, Freddy's right now 344 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: at their team hotel because the Kraken are playing the 345 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Pungmans tomorrow and they're at the same hotel right now. 346 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: So they could they could just grab Freddy. 347 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 4: But you know, I think it was to open a 348 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 4: door figure out so he had an easier way to 349 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 4: make the team. It was to you know, open doors 350 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 4: for guys like Liam Ogrin to make the team. 351 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: So it was one. 352 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 4: Way to get to to to kind of open that. 353 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 4: The other the other thing, to be blunt, is he's 354 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 4: even though he had fifteen team no trade clause, Seattle 355 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 4: wasn't on it. And you know, there's only a certain 356 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 4: amount of guys on this team that you can move 357 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 4: to make changes this summer, and I think that was 358 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 4: that was sort of a big reason, you know, they 359 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 4: wanted to upgrade in their bottom six and get Nico stererm. 360 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 4: I think they you know, look, Nico's gonna take warm 361 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: ups tonight. The hope is that will play Sunday. The 362 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 4: fact that he is taking warm ups tonight for the 363 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: first time since twenty twenty two with the Wild, by 364 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 4: the way, I think that shows you that he's definitely 365 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: playing Sunday. So I think that was another thing is 366 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 4: that they always had in their mind that they wanted 367 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 4: to go get a different type of center this offseason. 368 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 4: That wasn't that you know, wasn't Freddy, But but you're right, 369 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 4: with all the injuries they have right now, Freddie would 370 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 4: be extremely useful. 371 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: Brandon and Becker regarding Ogrin, falling out of favor among 372 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: scouts league wide. Could we see him traded this season 373 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: before his value tanks or the wild content just playing 374 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: him on the fourth line when he's up with the 375 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: big club. 376 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: What I love about that question. 377 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 4: It's clearly a athletic subscriber, because I put that in 378 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 4: the mail bag the other day. I talked to a 379 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 4: lot of scouts lately, and I included that mailbag that 380 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: you know, a lot of the scouts that come to 381 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 4: Grand Casino Arena are scouts that also have Iowa on 382 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 4: the circuit, so they've seen a lot of him, and 383 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 4: they just say that he looks like a very different guy. 384 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: I think he's thinking too much. 385 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: I think that, you know, he's so trying to be 386 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 4: an impactful player that he's constantly thinking like where you're 387 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 4: on the ice and things like that. And when you 388 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 4: do that, it just makes you look slow and play slow. 389 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 4: And so he probably just needs to be a little 390 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 4: more carefree and just go out there and play and 391 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 4: do what he's done for years. But and it doesn't matter, 392 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 4: like I you know, like it does not matter who 393 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 4: you're playing for. You got to control what you can control. 394 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 4: And Liam Ogrin obviously is not going to get a 395 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: lot of chances to score playing with Ben Jones and 396 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 4: Tyler Pitlick, But it doesn't mean that he has to 397 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 4: look invisible on the ice and and it could be 398 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 4: up to him to make that line, make it some 399 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: sort of impact both physically and off and offensively, and 400 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 4: so he's just got to be better. But to that 401 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 4: person's point, I think one of the things I threw 402 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 4: in the mailbag is one of the things that I've 403 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 4: learned that covering this game for a long time, especially 404 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 4: when you have a first round pick, if you start 405 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 4: to get the impression that that guy is going to 406 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 4: be somebody that's not going to make it to the 407 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 4: make it at the NHL level with the eyes of 408 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 4: a scout that you thought that he was going to be, 409 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 4: you better, you better trade him before everybody else in 410 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 4: the league realizes it. And that but the but the 411 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 4: danger in that is that if you trade him and 412 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 4: then he breaks out somewhere else, you're gonna look stupid. 413 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 3: So they really got to make a very good. 414 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 4: Assessment and analyzation of his of his game right now 415 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 4: and decide this because I do think that it's getting 416 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: a little worrisome right now, just the lack of impact 417 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 4: that we've seen so far at the NHL level. But 418 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 4: you know, I still think that he can be a 419 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: great hockey player. But he's got to be more assertive 420 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 4: on the ice. We've got to see that shot that 421 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 4: that we always see in practices, and and you know 422 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 4: I've said this to you before, but there's a lot 423 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 4: of players in this league that I've covered that look 424 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 4: incredible at eleven am and look awful at seven pm. 425 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 4: And so far, he looks incredible in every practice that 426 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 4: I see him at and we haven't seen that so 427 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 4: far at the NHL level. When back, uh, the hope 428 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 4: is Sunday, he's he's gonna warm up tonight. I'm gonna 429 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 4: get him after the game now that he's been activated 430 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 4: off IR and have an off day story on him tomorrow. 431 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 3: I know that he's definitely chomping at the bid. 432 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 2: Lastly, from your perspective, the most interesting nugget you gleaned 433 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 2: out of what you've reported on the player's only meeting, 434 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: I just think that what. 435 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 3: Was I think it was just a unique meeting. 436 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 4: Usually player's only meetings and trust me, I've been in 437 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 4: many in this building. It seems like every time the 438 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 4: Welcome to Pittsburgh, it's like, you know, a calamity about 439 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 4: to happen. We've been in this building when Eric's next 440 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 4: broken his leg, closed our meetings, when Bruce brud Drew 441 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,239 Speaker 4: forgot to put a defenceman on the uh Rid, Joe, 442 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 4: you remember that one Joe O'donald's sitting next to me. 443 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 4: Bruce brud Drop forgot to put a defenseman on the 444 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 4: on the starting lineup, and that they had to play 445 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 4: a defenseman short. I think was Pattern or Quincy or somebody. 446 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 4: So it was definitely Pattern. So uh yeah, So I 447 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 4: mean it seems like it's always there. But usually the 448 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 4: player meetings happened after the game. You know, you always 449 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 4: tweet about it when your reporter up door is still 450 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 4: close fifteen minutes after, so you know they're having a meeting. 451 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 4: This one, it was substantive, like like Jared Spurgeon immediately 452 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 4: told Marcus Felino, I want to do it tomorrow and 453 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 4: they they the leaders had text conversations on things to 454 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 4: talk about, topics to bring up. Jared and John Hines 455 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 4: had a conversation about things that Jared was seeing and 456 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 4: wanted to bring up in this meeting, and then everybody 457 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: talked and it just it was typical Jared Spurgeon, like 458 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 4: a very positive meeting, but it was in other words, 459 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: you know, let's get our head out of your note, 460 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 4: you know what, and start playing more like ourselves. So 461 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 4: I thought that, you know, I was really like Faber 462 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 4: was really really good in the story. So if you're 463 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 4: an athletic subscriber or want to be an athletic subscriber, 464 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 4: read that story because Favor really opened the door and 465 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 4: Felino and Spurgeon really echoed the things that he was saying. 466 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 4: And I think it's a real big reason why a 467 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 4: lot of these guys are playing great, like Favor's playing 468 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 4: his best hockey this season. And what I love about Spurgeon, 469 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 4: and fans don't always see it because he's so quiet, 470 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 4: is that when he speaks it actually means something, but 471 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 4: then he backs it up with his play, Like he 472 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: has not been scored on five on five and one 473 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 4: hundred and sixty minutes. 474 00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: That's ridiculous for a defense. 475 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 4: So he you know, he doesn't just say things and 476 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 4: for Noah real meaning, and I think that's really what's 477 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 4: helped this team kind of turn it around. 478 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 2: Good work, have fun tonight, and we will talk soon. 479 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: Thank you, all right, See everybody'd be nice to fallness. 480 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. 481 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very important. 482 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: Russo Radio Live from Pittsburgh. 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And we had a long conversation with 509 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: Ben Gessling on the development of JJ McCarthy. It's the 510 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: story that easily dominates coverage and should quite frankly, I 511 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 2: know there are folks out there who weary of it, 512 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 2: but that's the story. 513 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 3: It's There's a. 514 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 2: Reason that you're hearing so much about it is that 515 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: as much as people some people complain about wall to 516 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: wall coverage on it, the fact of the matter is 517 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 2: it's eighty percent of what people want to talk about 518 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: regarding this team right now. No matter what your position is, 519 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: I'm McCarthy, the team's situation, what they should do going 520 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: into the future, etc. And Matt, who's also aka I'll 521 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: hang up and listen guy, wrote, let's be real with 522 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: the JJ talk, Dan, the average fan and critical media 523 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: types just don't have the patience to wait if young 524 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: quarterbacks are very erratic. But the only way to have 525 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: a multi year championship window is with a franchise quarterback. 526 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: So the impatient folks are just gonna have to deal 527 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: with it because the growth ups are running the show. 528 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: I'll hang up and listen. He's not wrong, but he's 529 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 2: conveniently leaving one nugget out that makes his point a 530 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: little less relevant. I would say the issue. And you know, again, 531 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: no one can say that we're only bringing this up now. 532 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: We warned a hang up and listen guy many others 533 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: through training camp, really through much of the summer and 534 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: into training camp, that there was going to be inevitably 535 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: an inherent unfairness to the expectation level for McCarthy immediately, 536 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: and it was set up by the decision making from 537 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: the franchise itself, from the people who run this franchise, 538 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 2: the Vikings. As I said with Ben Gesling, in an 539 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: odd sense, it was their misfortune to finish fourteen and 540 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: three a year ago, and it's hard after fourteen and 541 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: three season, even one that ended with a first round 542 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 2: playoff loss, to then say we're going with the kid quarterback. 543 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 2: We think, like with many young quarterbacks, especially one as 544 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: young as he is chronologically speaking, too, it's going to 545 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: be bumpy. We accept that and understand that, but we 546 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: think the payoff is going to be big time for 547 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: the next ten years for this team. So therefore, we're 548 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 2: never going to say we're not trying to win games, 549 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 2: but we are saying that it may not be all 550 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 2: that easy for us to compete this season. Impossible message 551 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: to deliver, especially when you spend the offseason spending the 552 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 2: amount of money on free agents, aging free agents, I 553 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 2: might add, not young free agents, aging free agents to 554 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: try to flesh out to help the roster. And I 555 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 2: know what they're thinking was it was sound on one level. 556 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: The thinking was, look, what's the best way to ease 557 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 2: the pain of the ups and downs of JJ and 558 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: perhaps make it easier for him to slide in and 559 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: have some measure of effectiveness infrastructure around him, an improved 560 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: offensive line that will help with protection, adding another running back, 561 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: meaning at least in theory that we're going to run 562 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: the ball more often, we're going to go to more 563 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: of a controlled passing game. Even defensively, with the additions 564 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: to the interior part of the defensive line, it was 565 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 2: why can't we build on what we did a year ago, 566 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: which was to have a top five defense, top five 567 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 2: scoring defense. So you do all those things. The message 568 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: you're delivering is that you expect to compete this and 569 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: I honestly believe that the Vikings koc included, thought that 570 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 2: he could quarterback whisper jj enough through season one that 571 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: he would not be the reason the Vikings struggled or 572 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: a significant reason that he might not always be able to, 573 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 2: you know, win games or be it consistently great quarterback, 574 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 2: but that he would be when he wasn't that good, 575 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 2: he would be pulled along by all of the other 576 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: infrastructure that has indeed been built. So to hang up 577 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: and listen, guys, point, Patience is harder, not because people 578 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: are unaware of the fact that it takes time on 579 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: many young quarterbacks. Patience is harder when you send out 580 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: all sorts of messages by your activity in the offseason, 581 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: especially that seems to indicate you want to be a 582 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: viable playoff factor this year. So I honestly believe that 583 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: the miscalculation was they either convinced themselves by arrogance, hubris, 584 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: or even believe that this could be one of those 585 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: situations where McCarthy was good to very good almost from 586 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 2: the beginning of his career. It's always easier or easier. 587 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 2: I guess I should say to exercise patients when you 588 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: don't think there's anything at stake. If you're a team 589 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: that is worthy of winning seven games, maybe even eight games, 590 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: then it's easy to say, where are we going, Let's 591 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: play it out. There's going to be some hides and 592 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: definitely some lows. No one will convince me that they 593 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: thought the lows are going to be this low with 594 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: him as often as they have been, even with the 595 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: games that he obviously did. You know, he hasn't played 596 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: in that many games. That's I think the fatal flaw 597 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: regarding what a hang up and listen guys said, we're 598 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: we're it's not. Being a critical media type isn't doesn't 599 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: mean that you can't see what, for example, the Packers 600 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: have done what New England did a year ago in 601 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: basically a season that was kind of a throwaway season, 602 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: throwing the QB out there. What the Bears did with 603 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams last year, we can see it, absolutely see it. 604 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: They conveyed a series of messages that I think unwittingly 605 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: contributed to the impatience, the unusual lever level of impatience 606 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: that's been shown in the case of McCarthy, because they 607 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 2: didn't think there would have to be a need to 608 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: throw away any season, including this one. That's the disconnect here, 609 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: and I think that's largely what's happened, and a lot 610 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 2: of it, as I said earlier, is probably unfair to 611 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: the kid. In all honesty, I put it more on 612 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: their evaluation of him then I put it on him. 613 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: He is what he is at this point. In addition, 614 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 2: if you talk to people off the record in the league, 615 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: they'll tell you they too know the process, that the 616 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: process takes time, that it's it's not a straight line, 617 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: and it's stunning how bad a quarterback can look and 618 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: how much of a reversal can come if he just 619 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: keeps being thrown out there and he learns things. All 620 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: of that is, you know, undeniable. But what they say 621 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: and what I hear is this feels different. This feels 622 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: like some of this stuff is so fundamental that well 623 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: Salisbury told us yesterday, much of the stuff that the 624 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: Vikings with m O'Connell and even JJ are talking about, 625 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: He said, these are off season things that you have 626 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: to deal with. These aren't things that you can really 627 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: have much of a chance to succeed if you're having 628 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: to deal with them. In terms of the repetition, in 629 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: terms of him being able to have the right stance 630 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: and the right you know, throwing motion, you know, should 631 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: say pass after pass, it's going to be pretty hard 632 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: to get those breakthroughs during a season. And to that extent, 633 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: I think what that underscores is that he's not as 634 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: far along at this level as they thought he was 635 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: going to be. And again, if they were a throwaway team, 636 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: then I don't I think there would still be there's 637 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: always Chris Carter said it, there's always going to be 638 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: a value. It's a valuation it's an evaluation league, it's 639 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: a performance league, so you're always allowed. Carter was allowed. 640 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: He didn't say anything wrong when he responded the way 641 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 2: he did to what took place in this last game. 642 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: That there's still going to be in real time evaluation. 643 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: Trust me when I say there's certainly evaluation. If he's 644 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: playing well, there are people who are going to want 645 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 2: to project, well, see look what he's showing. So even 646 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: though you could say, well, what's he really proven, because 647 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: he's got to prove he can do that again and 648 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: again and again. So that would be my answer, long 649 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: winded as usual to hang up and listen guy, that sure, 650 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 2: there's among some fans people are always going to be 651 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: too impatient, but it was inevitable there was going to 652 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: be impatience here because the Vikings themselves conveyed the notion 653 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 2: they thought they could pull this off from year one, 654 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: and I think so far they have been proven incorrect. 655 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: Now he's still got time the rest of the season, 656 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: and we follow the story on this show and we'll 657 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: see indeed where it goes. But I think that is 658 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: all of what needs to be factored in to this 659 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 2: conversation as well. We've talked about this for a while, 660 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: but I think it's important to sort of review it 661 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: at particularly at a time like this. Let's get caught 662 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: up one more segment. We'll wrap up the program. Remind 663 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: you of a very good guest lineup today and what 664 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: we have coming up later tonight. Here in the family, 665 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 2: it's the bumper to bumper show rap. It'sprite to you 666 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: by American pressure. Here's the other piece that should be disturbing, 667 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 2: even to the mc bobos who say patients can't panic. 668 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: The condition of the team that McCarthy inherited is vastly better, 669 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 2: even with the injuries, vastly better than what most young 670 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: we're building in him into a franchise quarterback has to 671 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: work with. You can go You can cite an endless 672 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: series of examples, New England being one with Drake May 673 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. You want to go further back, you can 674 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 2: go through the list. That also should make it less problematic. 675 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 2: It should make it less likely that a quarterback could 676 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 2: look this ill equipped for significant parts of games. Ill 677 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: equipped tends to make more sense if the team you 678 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: inherited came off, you know, two and fifteen, or back 679 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 2: in the old days one and thirteen, something like that, 680 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 2: because those teams are tending to start over and they're 681 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: still very much in building mode, which the vikings are not. 682 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 2: That's the whole point of building all the infrastructure. And 683 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: I'm aware we've had injuries. But that's not there's too 684 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 2: much skill on this team for me to think that, well, 685 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 2: he's got admit, he's got to elevate everybody on the club. 686 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: He's got several skill players offensively that should be able 687 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 2: that it should make it pretty easy or or less 688 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 2: demanding of him to actually, you know, in a Patrick 689 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: Mahomes kind of way, build everybody else up. I want 690 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: to thank an outstanding array of guests today, notwithstanding Gerby, 691 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: who joined at three point thirty this evening or this afternoon, 692 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: also had a good conversation with Guestling on this and 693 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 2: many more things related to the Purple and then Russo 694 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 2: Radio Live from a Pittsburgh where your favorite hockey team 695 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: is back in action tonight on the fan. In fact, 696 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 2: that's where we're going to be out at six o'clock today. 697 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: Sermons one hour edition. Are you in this week? Are 698 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: you on your way to Green Bay? 699 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 4: No? 700 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: I wish you, wish you wanted to be. You're still 701 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: working on it. What if you get a ticket offer tomorrow? 702 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 2: Then what could happen? We'll see what happens. You can't 703 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 2: say okay, I'm open to it. 704 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 3: We will. 705 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:58,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure review a further preview Vikings Packers review Gophers Northwestern. 706 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 2: Is this a trophy game? I don't think there is 707 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 2: a trophy for this game. I don't recall a trophy 708 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 2: for Gophers Northwestern. There is now no that's sad but true. 709 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 3: And what else? 710 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 2: Who knows what else will cover. It'll be a one 711 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 2: hour show with the Vikings Packers scheduled for high noon 712 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 2: and all the pregame show action will follow us at 713 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: ten o'clock. That will be on Saturday. I don't think 714 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 2: you have to worry much about who's your hotline this 715 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: week because the Hoosiers are off much deserved week off 716 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 2: before they prepare for the old Oaken Bucket game against 717 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 2: the Purdue. The pretty dreadful, although occasionally competitive perdue boiler 718 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: Makers so very much hated in Indiana in that rivalry, 719 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 2: and at that point Indiana would finish the regular season undefeated, 720 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: and that would mean playing Ohio State for all the 721 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 2: marbles in the Big Ten title game. I still have 722 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 2: a difficult time believing it. Thank you for texting, Thank 723 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 2: you for your participation in all of our activities today, 724 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 2: and we will talk to you as I said Sunday 725 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 2: at nine am, right here, in the fan minute, I'll 726 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 2: be 727 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 4: I'll be your ri