1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: It's time for another edition of May in Your Face Now, 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: along with college football Immortality Glenn Mason, here's Dan Burrero. 3 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: Mace in Your Face is back, ladies, and job. I'm 4 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: sure you lasted in Florida. It was like eight. 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: Days, no week, Wednesday, Wednesday. 6 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 2: That's interesting. Yeah, that was enough because I mean there 7 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: are people saying right now, wait a minute, I have 8 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: access to my own place in Florida with this weather, 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: and I'm coming back after a week. They don't know 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: you do that. They just don't understand you. 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 3: Well, you know, well, I know that. Well, there's a 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: lot of things that people don't understand about me. But 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: I don't know, I get a little you know. I 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: probably the longest that I've ever stayed there at one 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: time might be two weeks. It was probably ten days 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: that little I didn't realize. Oh yeah yeah. And it's 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: just like Louis and you know the thing about it. Now, 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 3: I'm not a native Minnesota, as you well know. I 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: think I've been here long after you. Some people said, well, 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 3: he's one of us, unlike Jerry Kill that left, you know, 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: I mean, he was gonna be here for life and 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: he wasn't. But anyway, I don't know why I brought 23 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: that up. 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: I have no idea either, but uh, the wind. 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: A lot of people say to me, how do you 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: deal with the winter of Minnesota. 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: I don't mind the Winner's that clear. 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: I embrace it. I don't jog anybody. But you know 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: I used to run outside every day in the morning 30 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: and five am, right, well, five thirties, quarter six and 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: whatever the weather was. Now I can say this, I don't. 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: I embraced the win. I hate the spring. You know, 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: the spring that really isn't it. And what I'm talking about. 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: You put the TV on and the Masters is on, 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: and you look out the one you say, what country 36 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: are they in? Yeah? I've had enough. And that's when 37 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: I like the yeah to go play. I gotta say 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: one other thing about Governor. I talked about going there, 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: but every once in a while I would get out 40 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 3: of a meeting and my secretary would say, Governor Carlson's 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: in your office. And you know, the first time that happened, 42 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: I thought, oh, you know, and I went in there. 43 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: He always have the door shut and I'd open, Hey, 44 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: how you doing, And he said, what's going on? He said, 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: I'm just hiding hiding, I said, hiding from what he said, 46 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: just hiding, you know, and sit down, and he'd want 47 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: to talk. When I say about the team, he wanted 48 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: to talk about the individual players. And I was always 49 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: amazed he didn't have any cheat cheating in front of 50 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: marn that kind of stuff. You could tell he was 51 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: a diehard fan because he knew from watching the games 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: that he knew guys and he wanted and amazing to 53 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: me that, you know, he'd asked things like, well, you know, 54 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: what's he studying, how's he doing the great? What kind 55 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: of family does he happen? I mean, he was about 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: the person, and I was really moved by how much 57 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: information knowledge he had about the individual players. 58 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well he is you know, as you know, there 59 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: are politicians who are kind of fake fans and they 60 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: trying to glom on, right, but that's I mean, like. 61 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: Indiana, I mean they're hopping on the bandwagon now including Yeah. 62 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: He's a rube. He is a sports rube. I mean, 63 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: this is a guy who watches stuff. It wouldn't matter 64 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: if he was governor or you know, just Arnie Carlson 65 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 2: in business, whatever the case may be. So he he's 66 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: still you know, he's still talking about. You know, he 67 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: go for basketball and he's in Florida now obviously, but 68 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: he watches pretty much everything. So you're right, I'm not 69 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: surprised to hear that he for him, probably is a 70 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: little bit of refuge from the meat grinder, from the 71 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: political meat right. 72 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: And I can understand that, you know, I mean just 73 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: a little break where when he says hiding, that's probably 74 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: an exaggeration. But to sit there and maybe it went 75 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: there that long, but let's say throughout twenty minutes where 76 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: no one's coming in saying you got a problem? How 77 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: about this? How about that? I mean, just to have 78 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: a conversation. 79 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: You sure he never had some play ideas or he said, Glenn, 80 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: I've been working on this. I think this is a 81 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: flea flicker play you ought to consider. He never did 82 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. 83 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: He never did that. 84 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: That's good because that's what you don't want, right, That's 85 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: what makes you roll your eyes as a coach when 86 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: the the the politician. 87 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 3: Playing the wrong quarterback. 88 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: You know, no stud a hunting at that. 89 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: All right. 90 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: We talked about it at the top of the show, 91 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: but let's stay with it to get your reaction to it. 92 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: As well as you probably know. Earlier today, the FEDS 93 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: charged twenty individuals in a point shaving scheme that involves 94 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: thirty nine college basketball players with seventeen different Division One teams. 95 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: By the way, their other five defendants are described as fixers. 96 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: Four of the players played for their current teams even 97 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: within the last week, a massive scheme, according to the 98 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: US attorney David met Calf, that enveloped the world of 99 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: college basketball. 100 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Well, this is not a this is not 101 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: new to college athletics or pro sports. You know that. 102 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: I mean there's been cases of this in the past. 103 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: I think Boston College had a real famous one number 104 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: years ago. But the on this show, Dan, we've talked 105 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 3: about a lot and the biggest threat to any sport 106 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: is if the fans think the fix is in. Yeah, 107 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 3: it's been, it's been proven. And my concern, uh is 108 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: this has been momentum has been building on sports gambling 109 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: to the place where I can't even believe it now, 110 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: where all the betting that takes place on the phone. 111 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 3: You know you can bet on the next pitch. Is 112 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 3: it a heads of the tail? Who's going to catch 113 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: the next pass? It's crazy? A I think you're ruining 114 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 3: a lot of lives because some guys can't handle the gambling, 115 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: you know, they get in the whole. And I think 116 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: you keep going. But I don't remember the year, but 117 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 3: when I was the president of the American Football Coaches Association, 118 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: there was a group of us that went to Washington 119 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: on a lobbying group about trying to prevent college sports 120 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 3: being on a sports book because of these problems that 121 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: we're talking about. And we went there about three days 122 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: and we all had a lobbyist that took us around. 123 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 3: And there wasn't one politician that I talked to, not 124 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: one that didn't say, I would support a bell against that, 125 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: but you've got no chance why And they all said 126 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: the same thing, Harry Reid. Harry Reid's the speaker, and 127 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: he's not going to bring it up for vote. And 128 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 3: that the first I thought, one guy has that much 129 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 3: power he could prevent that when it would probably by 130 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: the for the good of the sport and the multitudes 131 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: would want it, he could prevent it. But I think 132 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: it's just the tip of the iceberg. So much money's involved, 133 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: and I think certain sports are more susceptible than others, 134 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: you know, so it's I think it's a sad state, 135 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: and I hope it's not the tip of the iceberg, 136 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: but I think it is all right. 137 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: Let's got our first pause in get back on schedule. 138 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: Glenn Mason kind of to join us in studio. It's 139 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: Mace in your face. In addition, we had we also 140 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: had business been talking to former Governor Carlson, so they 141 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: had a nice crosstalk conversation at the top of the 142 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: four o'clock hours. So we'll get back on schedule. We've 143 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: got the National Championship game to preview, We've got some 144 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: other stuff I'm guessing stuck in Mace's kraw. Well, he'll 145 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: let us know if he's got any new backpack misadventures 146 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: on his most recent travel to and from Florida. Mace 147 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: continues next. 148 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: Spend an evening with Jeff Foxworthy, known for his signature 149 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 4: you might be a Redneck jokes. 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But for whatever 159 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: it's worth, the last twenty national championship teams had at 160 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: least two top ten recruiting classes in the four years 161 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 2: prior to their winning season. And the question they ask 162 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: is can Indiana break the streak. Here's Indiana's rivals ranking 163 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 2: team recruiting rankings for the last four seasons fifty three, sixty, 164 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: fifty nine, and twenty nine. And what's the moral of 165 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 2: that story? 166 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: Well, the moralless story. For me, I never cared about 167 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: those rankings anyway. I mean I used to think, well, 168 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: who's doing it? That's like the guys that you see 169 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 3: on TV now all Kuiper and Todd mcshade, the expert. 170 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: I say, if they're that good, some NFL team would 171 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 3: hire them if they think they'd know that about that deal. 172 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: But you know, I was thinking, Dan, you know, I 173 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: remember when I used to have conversations about college hockey 174 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: with guys like lou Nanny, you know that new and 175 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 3: other guys. And I used to say, what I don't 176 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 3: understand is ever see in Minnesota with the facilities and 177 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: the backing and the draw and everything, how does some 178 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 3: of these other teams compete with them? The Midge State, 179 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: you know, Saint Cloud whatever. Okay, And I'm not saying 180 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: anything bad about those places, but I'm saying yes, and 181 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: what I was told back then that which kind of 182 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 3: made sense. Well, you know what happens is Minnesota gets 183 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: the cream of the crop. They get the best players, 184 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: no doubt. But the problem is they're so good a 185 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 3: lot of them leave early, go to the National Hockey League. Now, 186 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: the other teams they don't get those guys, so they're 187 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,119 Speaker 3: around for four or five years. So then when Minnesota 188 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: has to play these guys, they're older and maybe a 189 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: better team, talented, fair, but it's I think it's anomaly. 190 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: What Indiana. No one's ever seen this before that fast, 191 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, what they were in two years 192 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: to now play in for the National Championship. And to 193 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 3: the credit of Signetti and Signetti and Indiana, man, they 194 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: like what they taste right now, they're poured it on, 195 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: you know, and it's not quite the same as recruiting. 196 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 3: But I watched these guys going in the portal and 197 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: you see some announcements that I've really been amazed how 198 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: many Big ten players, I assume good players, starters from 199 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: other teams they've entered the portal and where they ended 200 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: up Indiana dangerous, very very dangerous. Dan, how many times 201 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: had you asked me on this show how did I 202 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: get along with the Big ten coaches? And I said good? 203 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: And he said, is there anybody he didn't like? I said, well, 204 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: I like some more than others, But no, I never 205 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: had a bitter feeling. But I'll tell you when you 206 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: start talking about losing a player going to another team 207 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: within your cop yeah, and if you think he was 208 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 3: tampered with, wow, I wanna tell you those Big ten 209 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: football being there'll be a bloodbath, There'll be fistfights. I'm 210 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: telling you the competitive guys. And there was a rule 211 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: historically for a long time, rule that if you were 212 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: on a scholarship at a Big ten school and you 213 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: went to transfer and went to another Big ten school, 214 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: you could never be on scholarship. And the reason was 215 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: back in the old days, you know, maybe pre World 216 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: War two, after Worlard two you saw some players they 217 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: played for multiple Big ten teams. Why, well, the guys 218 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: recruited right off of the teams. That's what's going on 219 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 3: right now. 220 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I get your point on that. Part of 221 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: the problem now is like the Big ten is so big. 222 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 2: If you're transferring, you almost can't help but end up 223 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: with another Big ten. I mean in the case of Parents, 224 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: for example, he's going to Orange. 225 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, why do you think we wouldn't have problems in 226 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 3: this conference? He keeps saying big ten. You know, hey, 227 00:12:58,679 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: come on, they can't count. 228 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: So what do you make of what? What does the 229 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: parents move tell you? He should it be concerning? Is 230 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 2: it just part of the deal everybody's facing it now 231 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: or what giving the build up with him? 232 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: Is it concerning? Yes, not not just because of him. 233 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: But that's what's happening right now. And the thing about 234 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 3: it is you might not like what's going on. You 235 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 3: better get used to it. You deal with it, because 236 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 3: that's the rules of the game right now, and you're 237 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: seeing it all over. You know, it used to be 238 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: you guys used to give me a hard time. You 239 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 3: lost the player from in state. You tell me the 240 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 3: school that doesn't lose a player from min State. One 241 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: size doesn't fit all, you know, And right now you 242 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 3: see a number of players. 243 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: I would ever do that what you're talking about. 244 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: You see players leaving high profile teams. Will you never 245 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 3: saw them leave. The number of guys that are entering 246 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: the portal at Ohio State or Alabama or and they're 247 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: on their way for whatever reason, I don't know. Maybe 248 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: the information leaks out and someone's getting more nil money 249 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: or more money than the other guy, or you think 250 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: you can get more money here. It's they've they've ruined it. 251 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, the experience is ruined. Damn. I was 252 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: thinking this when the governess said that. I remember when 253 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: pro players by former players that be playing pro football 254 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: and they're making a lot of money driving a nice car, 255 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: and they come back, how you doing. They'd say, oh yeah, 256 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: how do you like pro football? Well, the money is good, 257 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: it ain't the same. It's not the same experience, the 258 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: camaraderie and the learning experience and the relationships that you 259 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: built with you play on the team with the guy 260 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: for four or five years. You think back, and I 261 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: know a lot of listeners maybe they didn't play college, 262 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: but they'll think about oh yeah, the guys I played 263 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 3: high school football. There's still buddies that's gone. It's like 264 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 3: pro football now. 265 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: Is there not an asterisk? Though? Regarding those ratings, because 266 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: as a couple of Texters remind us, and we've talked 267 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: about this before, you do have a lot of players 268 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: who are transferring now. For example, Notre Dame gets I 269 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: should say, Indiana gets a great offensive lineman from Notre Dame. Now, 270 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: the QB wasn't that highly regarded West. I'm going to 271 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: give them full credit for that. It's easy to say 272 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: now because he's played so well, But it wasn't like 273 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: the whole country was clamoring over him then. But they 274 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: have added some players that way, which has to be 275 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: factored in when you're talking about well, whether your recruiting 276 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: class was in the forties or the fifties, whatever, if 277 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: you're getting pretty prime talent from other schools as part 278 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: of your success. That's not everybody in Indiana, but that's 279 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: a few of the players. 280 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: Well, there's no doubt I would say that Mendoza is 281 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: the Brock Party of college football, right, I mean Brock Party. 282 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: I mean what he's doing with the forty nine. He 283 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 3: is the last player picked the mister irrelevant. You mentioned that, 284 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: and you look down all the players that are still 285 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: along in the playoffs, I think maybe maybe the lowest 286 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: player other than him was Josh Allen. He was the 287 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: seventh pick in the draft, right, yeah, okay, and this 288 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: guy was too sixty two. You know a lot of guys, 289 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: a lot of guys in between there. But I'm gonna 290 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: go back, and I've talked about it before because I 291 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: believe it what Indiana is doing right now. They aren't 292 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 3: the most talented team out there, but they're the best 293 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: team and they have the right pieces in the right 294 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: places together, and I think see Denny's done a great job. 295 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: They're not worrying about their nil. They're not worrying about 296 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: that for right now, maybe because they haven't been there before. 297 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: Indiana hasn't been there before, so every moment right now 298 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: is like Christmas, you know, for them. But I heard 299 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: the interview, uh from the center that was at Notre Dame, 300 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 3: and he had still you your Elsbill, he's thinking about 301 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: going pro football. And the coach, the line coach at 302 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: in the end, who's been a big tank guy he's 303 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: been around. I think he used to be at Wiscon. 304 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: Wiscon was that was reminded me of that today by 305 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: Chip Skogans, who got to know him really well back 306 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: in the days he was at Wisconsin. 307 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: So he was that was kind of a good line coach. 308 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 3: Uh and uh botha. I think his dance, Yeah, and 309 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: uh he called him up and started talking to him, 310 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: and you know, I don't know, and he was that interested. 311 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: They got Signanni on the phone, he said, but all 312 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 3: of a sudden they started talking about the nil and 313 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 3: that closed the deal because I think the nil would 314 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 3: have been more money. He was in the banking pro 315 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: football his first year. Uh, and he's and he became 316 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 3: a key player. Now I can tell you this, uh 317 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 3: to me again. Awards. I know Iowa got the Joe 318 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: Moore Award best offensive line in the country. I know 319 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: you have a really good center. How they give that award, 320 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 3: I don't know, because you have to you know, normally 321 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 3: you think about an offensive line, Man, could they run 322 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 3: the ball? Look at their statistics how they ran the ball? 323 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 3: Or they had a good season but they didn't have 324 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: a great season. Who's got a better offensive line than Indiana? 325 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: I mean, man, those guys are really really good. I mean, 326 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 3: they play together. The one thing about the offensive line, 327 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: you judge them as a unit. Yeah, you know, it's different. 328 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: You know if in the run game, if four guys 329 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 3: are blocking the tail off and one guy's missing the 330 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 3: block and you can't run the ball. But he says 331 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: that they can't run block pass protection, if you have 332 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 3: four guys doing a great job, one guy breaking down, 333 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: he said they can't pass protect. They're a unit, and 334 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 3: they've got a great unit. 335 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: Is Indiana at this point inevitable, unstoppable or is Miami 336 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: a legitimate threat to rain on the parade? 337 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 3: Well, you got number one, the number one seed coming 338 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 3: in and the last guy coming in. But you'd have 339 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: to think, you know the old saying about either team's 340 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 3: getting better or it's getting worse. It's it's never staying 341 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 3: the same. You have to think, I'm not saying that 342 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 3: Indiana isn't that situation, but you have to think that 343 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: Miami is on the right and on the rise. They 344 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 3: really are, and they've got talented players down there. I 345 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: don't know, it's hard to win that many games in 346 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 3: a row. And you think about Mendoza, he's got more 347 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 3: touchdown passes in the playoff than he does in completion 348 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: eight versus five, Right, I mean, come on, sooner or later, 349 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: you gotta think that he's gonna have a little hiccup here. 350 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 351 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: That's all I was wondering, because the sad thing for 352 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: Indiana fans is something that seemed, you know, just a 353 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: pipe dream now is viewed as well, we got to 354 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: win it. Well, they'll be devastated if throughout this whole 355 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 2: coronation you get to that game and somehow you lose it. 356 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: Oh, there'll be some guy like you if they lose it, 357 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 3: to say, oh, Signetti's good, but he can't win the 358 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 3: big one. 359 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: Here's what I will say. I would reconsider the contract 360 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: extension at that point. 361 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: Make him earn it. Oh you may take it back. 362 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 2: Probably a little late for that, yeah, I think so, 363 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: it's very very late. Did you see what Wall Street 364 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: Journal actually wrote a story about the only lunch that 365 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: Signetti eats every day five years Chipotle, and it's chicken, beans, 366 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: rice and nothing else. And the side of walk nothing 367 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: else on it, none of the other fixes, which is 368 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: kind of like me. I don't do the beans, but 369 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 2: I do nothing else, no sauces, And I put a 370 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: little bit of cheese on there. So now I gotta 371 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 2: have a bowl on game day? Don't they on on Monday? 372 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 3: A Chipotle? Well, I think Signetti is probably going to 373 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: be doing an ad for Chipotle or something. Yeah, they'll 374 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 3: have the Signetti Bowl. 375 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: Or who's your fans have to worry next that he 376 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: that the pros might come calling? Or is he the 377 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: quintessential college coach? 378 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 3: I don't think they have to worry about that. I think, 379 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 3: what is he? Sixty four years old? I think sixty 380 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 3: four years old? You know you talk about if you 381 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 3: go to a place where really you become the program, 382 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 3: you become the legacy. If he if he wins this 383 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 3: next game, first of all, he's going to have a 384 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 3: statue out there in front of him. 385 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: Should and. 386 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: No, I think I think he's there, and I I 387 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, when you're sixty four years old, this, 388 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: I say, may on a coach to seventy. You know, 389 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 3: you don't see many guys go in the old days. 390 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 3: You didn't see him go that far. But you're making 391 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 3: that much money, you don't walk away from it. And 392 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 3: I think right now that I'm not going to say 393 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 3: Indiana is going to be this good every year, but 394 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: I think they're your dad's Indiana. You're not going to 395 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 3: see anymore, you know, winning two three games a year. 396 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 3: They're going to be better than that. Yeah, and to 397 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: you to my point because he used to kill me 398 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: on this. Remember at the beginning of the year, all 399 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 3: the writers were saying making fun of his die conference 400 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 3: and I'm just doing an sec schedule. But they're still 401 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 3: killing them. Okay, no one's saying it now because you 402 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 3: know what, I give him credit because you have to 403 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: have a plan. 404 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, no question he does. 405 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 3: And in Indiana that would be the plan for why 406 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: in Indiana trying to do what he's doing right now? 407 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 3: Why would he want to, you know, play Texas as 408 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: a non conference A right, let me. 409 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: Ask you another question looking ahead. So the word is 410 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: he's getting everybody he wants in the portal, So presumably 411 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: those are maybe including some more quote unquote highly rated 412 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: players than before. Is there any danger that as as 413 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: he ascends to this place that he it's it's it 414 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: might be too easy to walk away from whatever the 415 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: secret sauce is, which obviously isn't just great talent, it's 416 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: the right talent, and gets that he ends up getting 417 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: too seduced by Oh I have access to this guy 418 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 2: and this guy. Now, well, yeah, those are the best 419 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: talented players. 420 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 3: I'm going to do it. 421 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 422 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 3: I know exactly. It's got to be a right fit. 423 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 3: A coach has got to be a right fit for 424 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: the program, and a player's got to be a right 425 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: fit for the program. And the program is dictated by 426 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 3: the coaches, you know, and I don't. I don't know 427 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: everything that they do down there. Right now, it's really working, 428 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: but every year is a new chapter. You got to 429 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 3: start all over again. And just because you had everything 430 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 3: working perfectly doesn't mean that next year. And you know, 431 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: I like when he said, well make a good movie. Sure, 432 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: but I mean it's so refreshing. This Bendoza kid, a 433 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 3: quarterback that's you know, you know, really beat a play. 434 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: Don't you like when he gets interviewed after the game, 435 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 3: it's something not about me. I mean, he's trying to 436 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 3: give credit to everybody else, from his parents, to his teammates, 437 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: to his coaches, to the university. And you really get 438 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: the feeling that what he's saying he means wonderful. 439 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,239 Speaker 2: Ce you ain't chance you think the Vikings could move 440 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 2: up to get him. Oh wait, we got JJ McCarthy. 441 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: I forgot. 442 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: You know, you never miss an opportunity to get get 443 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 3: that sing singer in there. 444 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're you're not naive to this. You can't. 445 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 2: They can't bring him back alone. They got to. They 446 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: gotta have an option. Besides, JJ McCarthy can't stay on 447 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: the field. 448 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well I was again, I'm just a fan like 449 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: everybody else that has an opinion. But I always thought, 450 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 3: and you know this because we talk, I don't know 451 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 3: all the particulars about salary cap and all that stuff. 452 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 3: But when Darnold was gonna leave and every all my 453 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 3: dog park people, they don't know anything. Okay, oh we 454 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 3: got JJ, I said, Wait a minute, he didn't played yet. 455 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 3: You know, how many guys do you see come right 456 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 3: out of college and play and play well? And I 457 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 3: know every year it seems like about every third year 458 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 3: that somebody lists about the quarterbacks that were drafted in 459 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 3: the first round, and just about every year about a 460 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 3: third of morning and around anymore, it's it's hard, so uh, 461 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 3: it seems that there's always the exception where a guy 462 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 3: comes right out of college and steps in play. But 463 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: there's more of those stories where a guy came in, 464 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 3: he's talented, and he got to be the understudy for 465 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: a couple of years and then step in and let 466 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: it go. 467 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, very very true. So are you picking Miami and 468 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 2: the upset? 469 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: It's too early yet it's the only third. You know 470 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: what I'm going with the dam you've stuck with them. 471 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: I really, you know, maybe not thinking of a brain 472 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: of my heart, I really, I just like that football. 473 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 2: Rooting for the story. 474 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I appreciate team and I appreciate coaching. 475 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: And when I watch that team, they play together as 476 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: a team. Uh, you know, I'm not a big guy 477 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 3: that showboat stuff. They don't do much. 478 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: They do almost none of it. No, none of it. 479 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 3: I mean I really appreciate that. And Signetti he's the coach, 480 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 3: but just like Mendoza, you don't get the feeling like 481 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: it's all about me. You know. The most egotistically thing 482 00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 3: he said, which from day one and then they got 483 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 3: about it, was when he said when they said, why 484 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,239 Speaker 3: do you think he can turn this program? I win 485 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: google bable man, And you thought, well, there's a guy 486 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: with you that's not really him. 487 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: No, it isn't. Yeah, he's a worker. Yeah, there's no question. 488 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: And you know the other thing that strikes me about 489 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: this team among good to great teams, they might have 490 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 2: the lowest dufust factor I've ever seen in a team. 491 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 2: In other words, they just don't do anything stupid. Well, 492 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 2: that's what I'm talking about, not just celeb Yes, there's 493 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: no question. 494 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: I mean that's you know that. You know, I always 495 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 3: the certain things when I when I coach, Okay, i'll 496 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 3: give me some I you know, some teams, you go 497 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 3: watch practice, you'll see a fight breakout in the field. 498 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: I never let fighting because I always tell you if 499 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 3: it happens in practice, why it's not going to happen 500 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: in the game. Or guy messing around because you know, 501 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 3: we had zero tolerance for celebrations and in practice. Every 502 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 3: once in a while, guy going to do something in practice, 503 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 3: don't harm No, if let them do it there, why isn't. 504 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 3: I'll tell you about fighting. When I went to Kent 505 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: State and the program is terrible. It was terrible, and 506 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: I went out there every day there was a big fight. 507 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 3: They couldn't beat anybody, but they'd fight like heck, you know. 508 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 3: And I even had one of the coaches, my defensive 509 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 3: line coach, and say, well, I said, will you get 510 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: your own team? So I would talk to them. So 511 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: one day fight broke out again. I said, that's it. 512 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 3: Got everybody up. I got the two guys up. I said, Okay, 513 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 3: here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna do updowns you 514 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: two guys until one guy quits, and then the guy 515 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 3: that's still standing won the fight. Okay, and it went 516 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 3: on front. I mean, it was terrible. Last fight we 517 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 3: ever had in practice. Made Yeah, because you could lose 518 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 3: a game, and there's certain teams they seem like they 519 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 3: always make that dumb mistake. 520 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: Even good teams. Some good if I have that fall 521 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: into that mentality, You're a hundred percent right. That's true. 522 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: And I think some of them think they can because 523 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: they're good and they got well rot we'll be able 524 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: to overcome it, but not when you're playing other good teams. 525 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: I one more break, We got one more segment. Mace 526 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: in your face. Iver got Tom Crean, another former college coach, 527 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: is going to join us at five h two. 528 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 4: Never miss your chance to know what the latest sports 529 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 4: news is in town. Chances to win tickets knowing what's 530 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 4: going on with all of your favorite kfan shows. You 531 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 4: can follow us kfan one zero zero three on all 532 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 4: the social channels Instagram, TikTok x, stay connected follow the 533 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 4: sports leader Kfan. 534 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: This comes in from the six five to one area code. 535 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: Tara and I have a date night reservation at Jack's 536 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: Cafe YEP on Sunday night. Hope to see Mace in 537 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 2: your face there. Why don't you join them buy them dinner? 538 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: No? I mean I thought they're inviting me. 539 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: Well they maybe they are. Maybe that's something you can 540 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 2: do Sunday night. And then I think the gracioust thing 541 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: to do would be to say dinner's on. 542 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 3: Me, very gracious. You know. 543 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,479 Speaker 2: Well May said you never pay for anything, should say 544 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: you're Mace. Louis said you never pay for anything. Yeah, 545 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that's. 546 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's uh. I told you, Louise model, you're first 547 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 3: right after me. So that's that's how they go. I 548 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 3: love the guy. Could me wrong? 549 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: You don't have any chic stories like he did right 550 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: the other day? Well yeah maybe no, you know, I'm hey, 551 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: everybody's up to the wrong. I don't like those places. 552 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: I don't never, never, very comfortable. But when I was 553 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 2: first here, they used to have an event, some type 554 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: of fundraiser at the ol Mac Okay, I forget it 555 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: was boxing. I think it was boxing, boxing, ar wrestled. 556 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 3: They had a ring up there and everybody come up 557 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 3: and and it was a deal of fundraiser. And someone 558 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 3: took me and I was first in town. And we 559 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: got done and they said, come on, we're going, and 560 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: so we're going. So we're going to sheics s. They 561 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 3: told me said are you I'm not going, not going. 562 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: They put a lot of pressure on me, but I'm 563 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 3: pretty good saying no when I want. I said, no, 564 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 3: I'm not going, and I didn't go. 565 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: Probably probably to. 566 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 4: Me that person to think that that's a good idea 567 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 4: to bring the new football coach. 568 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 3: Well, they took Louis, I know, didn't have the same spote. Yeah, dancing. 569 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: I don't don't know where he had it. He said, 570 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: I thought it was a dancing bar. That's what he 571 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: told dancing. 572 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: He's from the Zou. 573 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: That's very, very true. You're one hundred percent right. Anything 574 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: else you want to talk anything else, college or pro? 575 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 2: I mean maybe you have you watch games, you watch anything, 576 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: so anything. 577 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I was watching that Bears Green 578 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: Bay game and I gotta I gotta admit I turned 579 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 3: the TV off. 580 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: You gave up? 581 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: I well, I just watching the game. I'm not a fan, 582 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: and I turned it off and I got up the 583 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 3: one I looked at, I go, are you kidding me? 584 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: So that's when you first found out. 585 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's insane. I couldn't believe. But I think that 586 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 3: it's interesting how I think the NFL used to play 587 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 3: twelve games back in the old days, and now there's 588 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: seventeen games. 589 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: And then they are fourteen for a long time. 590 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it used to be twelve and 591 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: then fourteen, now now seventeen. You know they're going to 592 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 3: go to eighteen, Yes they are, but by point when 593 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 3: they play in Chicago the Bears Sunday, which if I 594 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 3: think it's January eighteenth, and I still got a couple 595 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: of weeks to go. I mean, you're living dangerously with 596 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 3: you know, with the weather. I mean, I'm not talking 597 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 3: about cold weather. It could be a disaster. So maybe 598 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 3: that's why more and more pro teams they're going to 599 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: go to dome stadiums. I don't know what's the final 600 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: thing with the Chiefs. Did they decide on going to Kansas. 601 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 3: I haven't heard that. I know they've been there. You 602 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 3: know they're going to move over to the other side. 603 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: And then uh, Cleveland's moving from downtown right and they're 604 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: gonna have a dome stadium and uh uh I think, uh, 605 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 3: the Bears they're still thinking going to your hometown. 606 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: How excited? 607 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 3: Ilet Me just tell you that you can write it down. 608 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 3: If the Bears end up going to Gary, Indiana, that 609 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: might be the biggest swindle ever. There's gotta be some 610 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 3: people taking some big time payoffs. 611 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: Well that's yeah, but they might give them a good deal. 612 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 3: People don't understand that comment. You do. I tell you, 613 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: if you ever go from Chicago and you're going east 614 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 3: and you go across the toll way and you get 615 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 3: in the Indiana when you when you get off there 616 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 3: you are in Gary, Indian and it's you know, the 617 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 3: I don't know they steal plants or whatever they are, 618 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 3: and there, I mean it's town. 619 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: It's an extremely tough town. There's no question about that. Yeah, 620 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: it was a who knows. I mean the weathers you say, 621 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 2: supposed to be very lousy. I love those games that 622 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: are not in perfect conditions. The comeback from some fans is, no, 623 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 2: I want to see the conditions in which you can 624 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 2: see all of the skill that the player has. And 625 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: I'm fine with both kinds of games, but I like 626 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: the cold weather games. I like snow games. You know, 627 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 2: they're rare, and maybe that's part of the reason I 628 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: like them. But I grew up thinking football was a 629 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 2: game that really wasn't about who had the greatest skill, 630 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 2: but who had the greatest skill in sometimes challenging conditions. 631 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 2: Right to me, that's what football at its best. A 632 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 2: it's purest, that's what it means. 633 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 3: You know. My first memory of pro football, yeah, okay, 634 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 3: growing up in New Jersey, someone took me to a 635 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: Giants game when they played in Yankee Stadium. And the 636 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 3: first thing I remember that because it was cold, really cold, 637 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 3: and snowflying. A bunch of guys would be around those 638 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 3: fifty gallon oil drums that fill with wood on fire, yes, 639 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: drinking cheap wine out of a bottle, you know, I 640 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 3: remember that. And then you go to the game and 641 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 3: they still had the infield. You know, that's true, and 642 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 3: it wasn't a plush like it is now. But man 643 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 3: and the game was brutal, and the fights in the 644 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 3: stands were more brutal. It was I have a vivid 645 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 3: fine to your point, you know what TV likes late 646 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 3: season NFL games in cold weather because a lot of 647 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 3: people that used to live in cold weather now live 648 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 3: in Florida, Arizona, whatever, and those people like to turn 649 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 3: on the TV and reminisce remember what it used to 650 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: be like, live like in those places. 651 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 2: Different different era, that much, just for sure. Meanwhile, the 652 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: ratings again they're just NFL is undefeated. Yes, they're just 653 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 2: print money. 654 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 3: No, the NFL, those people know what they're doing. The 655 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 3: NFL owners are very smart, very rich, very powerful business guys. 656 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 3: And there's a reason why the commissioner makes forty some 657 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 3: million dollars and flies around in private jet because he 658 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 3: makes them a lot of money. He makes decisions behind there. 659 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,959 Speaker 3: But they don't miss the trick when you think about 660 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 3: even And that's one of the tough things. I think 661 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 3: that when you're in a pro town like the golfers 662 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 3: aren't and compete with them, you can't compete with them, 663 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,959 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? From that stat that's tough. 664 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 3: You know you're here and you know the local networks 665 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 3: every night they have a report from practice. I mean, 666 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 3: guys don't even have pads on them. They're out there reporting. 667 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 3: You know, you know what's going on and what they 668 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 3: do and how you have to compete for the advertising 669 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 3: dollar and all that. So you know, you go to 670 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 3: US Bank Stadium, your naming rights US Bank, you know, 671 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 3: But I go there. I joke all the time. The 672 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 3: only thing that doesn't have naming rights in that stadium 673 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 3: is the urinals in the men's room. 674 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 2: Now that's coming. 675 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 3: I mean they do, and I'm sure if they hear 676 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 3: it's going to say, jeez, we missed that one. Let's 677 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 3: do it. Well. 678 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 2: We've talked about before. What the greatest disadvantage I think 679 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 2: for any college football coach, football or basketball, frankly in 680 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 2: this town is you're in a pro town, and you know, 681 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 2: the disadvantage of you're competing against everybody. There's not the 682 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 2: sort of built in base. Maybe there was back in 683 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 2: the thirties, forties and fifties before other pro sports were established, 684 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 2: but there ain't now. And obviously in campus towns, you 685 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 2: have the advantage of you are the show, you are 686 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 2: the story in that town, and that's always been a 687 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 2: disadvantage to coaching college here. I don't think there's any 688 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 2: question about it. 689 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 3: But you know the thing about it, there was a 690 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 3: day when college football was a lot bigger than pro football. 691 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely true, close it was an afterthought. 692 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 3: And I know a lot of people out there, the 693 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 3: younger people say they can't believe that. 694 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 2: It was demonstrably proven. Good to have you back, Good 695 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 2: to see you face, Thanks to have thanks for coming 696 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,959 Speaker 2: in early and saying hi to the governor. Was great, 697 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 2: and we'll let chat next week. Thank yous, Mace in 698 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 2: your face. And as I said, I maybe you'll go 699 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 2: to Jackson, you know, hang with those that couple and 700 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 2: buy them dinner. Who let's come back and chat with 701 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 2: another former college of coach, in this case college basketball 702 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 2: coach Tom Crean on your Timberwolves that he is