1 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon, It's Xavier Saint John's two thirty at Centas. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: What a day will be for my next guest, a 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Xavier legend, twenty twelve grad an elite clutch player who 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: led Xavier help lead Xavier to four NCAA tournament births, 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: three sweet sixteens. He is seventh on the school's all 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: time scoring list. He is third in assist He is 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: number one in career free throw percentage, and his number 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: fifty two will be retired on Saturday. We'll hang permanently 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: in the Centas Center, joining ten existing banners from more 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: on that, Let's go straight to the source and welcome 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 1: in to Holloway. To Lance Bacallister, how are you. 12 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: I'm fine, Thanks for having mey. 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: Man, congratulations. I'm sure as this gets closer, it's sinking 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: in more and more. What does all this mean to you? 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's just a great honor from my 16 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: basketball you know, being able to get my jersey retired, 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: my alma mater is definitely a blessing for you know, 18 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: myself and my family. 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: To what are you as you look back at your career, 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: what are you most proud of? Or what do you 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: hope people. How do you hope people remember you as 22 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: a musketoer. 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: You know, when I got to Vivier, we talked about 24 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: the standard. We talked about the standard for winning. So, 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: you know, I'm just really proud that I was able 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: to be able to go to the NCAA tournament, you know, 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: four years in a row. Every year I was there, 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: you know, three three sweet sixteens. You know, my freshman, sophomore, 29 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: and senior year we made it to the sweet sixteam. 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: You know, I lost five points every time we went, 31 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: so we played close games. I'm just want to be 32 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: remembered to be a winner, and you know, just that's 33 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: really what I'm proud of, just being able to win 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: those games over the course of those four seasons. 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: I think when people think of you, they think of 36 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: someone who loved pressure moments when the game was on 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: the line. Is that something you thrived on? 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it became a thing. So you know, 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: I fed into it, like all right, I guess people 40 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: expect me to have the ball in these situations, so 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: let me just go because let me just be a 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: part of the show. 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:17,279 Speaker 1: Basically, some may have forgotten you originally signed with Indiana 44 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: kind of take us through what unfolded and how it 45 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: led you to Xavier. 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: Well, I was. I came to Cincinnati, Ohio to go 47 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: to Harmony Community School, which is now defunct. You know, 48 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: I went there to go to prep school to do 49 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: my senior year because I needed to improve my grades 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: and get the ACT score. So just being in Cincinnati, 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: I was around in the program because you know Book 52 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: Richardson that was with Coach Miller at Xavier in Arizona. 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: Book was you coach from the New York Gauchos. So 54 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: just being around there, you know, living in Cincinnati, I 55 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: was able to see how good the program was. You know, 56 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: I didn't know much about it being from New York. 57 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 2: But I actually signed a letter of intent with with 58 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: Indiana University in November, but Kevin Sampson got in trouble 59 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: in Sebruary, so I was forced to decommit. And from 60 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: basically February to April, I was a free agent trying 61 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: to pick a new school, and you know, Coach Miller 62 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: started to recruit me with the help of Book who 63 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: was then I wound up taking Xavier University. 64 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: Man that classic saying. Things happened for a reason. I mean, 65 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: think of it. I mean it had to have turned 66 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: out pretty much perfectly for you. Yeah. 67 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a blessing, you know. I was. I was 68 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: kind of sold on going to IU and I'm like, wow, 69 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: you know, be a Hoosia and then overnight it was 70 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: now you're going to Xavier Bro. So I was like, 71 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: all right, But it worked out perfectly for me. I 72 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: was able to you know, be a part of a 73 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: you know, top twenty five program and you know, have 74 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: a great career. 75 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: Look ahead to Saturday for us, well, I assume you'll 76 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: have a few family and friends on hand. 77 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that is pretty bad now. So you know, 78 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: I think the original list was about like sixty of 79 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: my family members coming from New York to be a 80 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: part of the you know, the Jersey ceremony. So they 81 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: supposed so well be flying in so you know, summer driving. 82 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: So we'll see how it works out because of you know, 83 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: the weather. The weather they saying it's supposed to be 84 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: about the snowsowmers, but it's about fifty five sixty of us. 85 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 1: I understand. Miami coach Travis Steele is hoping to be there. 86 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: Tell listeners about your connection and relationship with Travis. 87 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: Well, I've had Coach Steel and he was I think 88 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: he was a graduate assistant at NAYU. That's when I 89 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: first met him. But you know, once I got to Xavier, 90 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: you know, it was just we had a connection between us. 91 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: Just you know, he was very instrumental in my skill 92 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,119 Speaker 2: development Isaavia. You know, he spent a lot of time 93 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: with me. You know, he was an assistant coach at 94 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: the time, so he his job kind of was to 95 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: handle me and maybe one or two other of my teammates. 96 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 2: You know, we were in this group and you know, 97 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: we just spent a lot of time together. He was 98 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: very diligent with me, very loving with me while I 99 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: was there, and I just you know, really appreciated Coach still, 100 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: you know a lot. 101 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: To What did somebody like sister rose Ane Fleming mean 102 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: to you and your time at Xavier. 103 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 2: Well, she was everything because you know, you know, I 104 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: heard all these stories about how easy college was, you know, 105 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: academically before you get there and you know that we 106 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: don't really have to do much. But you know, I 107 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: got a rude awakening my first two days there. I 108 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: had like a book to read and I didn't do it. 109 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: So It's like Friday in the summertime in July and 110 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: she came to my dorm. I'm like, you know, sister, 111 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 2: I gotta go out with my friends are waiting for me. 112 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: She's like, no, you got to come to my office 113 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: and read this book and you're not going nowhere until 114 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: you're done. So really, really quick, I learned, like, now, sister, 115 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: road swimming, I'm gonna have my hands full of. 116 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: Good Yeah too, Holloway check it in. He'll happy. Is 117 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: number fifty two retired on Saturday at CENTA senters that 118 00:05:54,800 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: take on Saint John's give me an idea of you 119 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 1: have so many moments in your career from Kansas State. 120 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: I was taking of the Purdue game today. Is there 121 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: a game moment or a performance that you turned in 122 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: that that comes to mind when when I talk about 123 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: your finest moments. 124 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have to say my sophomore year of 125 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati game when I think we won in double 126 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: all the time, and I had like twenty six points 127 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: and I was like one of the first games where 128 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: like I was able to bore a lot of points 129 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: and kind of be like really have my hands on 130 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: the game, and I'm like, Okay, maybe I could be 131 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: pretty good or something at this level. So I remember, 132 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: I think that would be year Lance Stevenson was that Cincinnati, Yeah, yeah, 133 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 2: and you know Deyontay Vaughn. You know, it was a 134 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: great I remember that game. 135 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: Do you still keep in touch with some of your teammates. 136 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep in touch with all of my teammates 137 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 2: for the most part. You know, we always, uh, you know, 138 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: reach out to each other. You know, we were a family. 139 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: You know, as we're older, we realized how important we 140 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: were to each other later in life, you know, in 141 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: school where everybody's kind of doing their own thing. But 142 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: once we get older, you know, we realize how much 143 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: we miss each other, and we talk as much as 144 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: we possibly can, visit each other when we think two. 145 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: I was looking today at all the places you have 146 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: played since your Xavier days were done, and I'd love 147 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: to see a map with a little dot of everywhere 148 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: you have played. You loved the game of basketball. Give 149 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: listeners an idea all the different parts of the world 150 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: you've played basketball together. Yeah. 151 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 2: Well, starting my first job was in Turkey in twenty twelve. 152 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: Then from Turkey I went to Belgium. From Belgium, I 153 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: went to Puerto Rico, then in Venezuela, then Mexico, then Italy, 154 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: Israel three times, Lithuania once, Puerto Rico six times, Turkey 155 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: three times, yeah, Lithuania, South Korea, Egypt, Nicaragua, Dominican Republic. 156 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: So I probably played in about maybe twelve thirteen countries. Man, Yeah, 157 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: I played a lot of basketball, if I have, since, 158 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: I played a lot of basketball in different places since 159 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: I last put that Zavy uniform on. 160 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: Man too, you got to write a book my travels 161 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: around the world hooping. 162 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a lot. I know, it's been so 163 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: many countries over these last you know, thirteen years. 164 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: Now you are I think you're what thirty? Are you 165 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: thirty six years old? Now? 166 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thirty thirty six? 167 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: Now are you? Are you still hooping or are you 168 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: onto other things? 169 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 2: Now? I'm still well. I ruptured my achilles in July, 170 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: so I'm in New York where my doctors and all 171 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: that rich trying to rehab. So I'm gonna see how 172 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: I feel, and then another four or five months. I'm 173 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: played on playing about fifteen years pro so I'm at thirteen. 174 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna see if I could recover and get 175 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: about two more years then and then uh then get 176 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: onto other things. But now I'm currently like working at 177 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: a school. I'm teaching at a high school in Long 178 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: Island while I'm recovering. 179 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent. Last question, do you keep up with this 180 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: edition of the Musketeers? Do you still follow the Musketeers? 181 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? Come on, how could I not. I'm gonna always 182 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: follow the Musketids. We gotta we got a row deal 183 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: last night. 184 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: Omaha. 185 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: But you know that's the part of me. I gotta 186 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: I gotta follow the Musketears. 187 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm I'm really happy for you for what's gonna 188 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: come on Saturday. Congrats on a hell of a career, 189 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: and enjoy Saturday with friends and family. 190 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: All right, all right, thank you very much. Good to 191 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: hear from you, guys. Enjoy your night. 192 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: All right, you as well too. Holloway checking in too, 193 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: in and friends checking in tonight Saturday, two thirty at 194 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: Sentas