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Uh Brandon, 15 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: you can go ahead and lead us off. 16 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: Welcome, Good morning, Gary. 17 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: I love the show. 18 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: I really enjoy cruising around listening to you, you know, 19 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: drinking beer, and I never get anything done because I 20 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: always have all these projects I want to do and 21 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I love listening to the show. 22 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 2: It gives me ideas, motivation, you know what I mean. 23 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, My question is I got an older home 24 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: that was built in the fifties. It's just a nine 25 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty square feet two bedrooms. I'm a single guy. 26 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: My thing is the furnace. It's getting getting kind of old. 27 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: It was, it was old when I bought the house. 28 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: I want to guess it's over twenty plus years, if 29 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: not thirty. I want to baby it. I can't really 30 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: afford replacing it right now. And my thought is my 31 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: idea is to put a small like a wood burner 32 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: in the basement. I've talked with my home insurance company. 33 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: They said my home insurance would maybe go up two 34 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 2: dollars a month, not much. You know, my parents have one. 35 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: I liked it. What's your idea on putting just a 36 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: wood burner to kind of take the edge off, you know, 37 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: keep a small fire going when it gets real cold, 38 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: just to get my furnace through a few more years. 39 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: Well, it'll certainly be supplemental heat. The question is is 40 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: what type of stove and what type of you know, 41 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: permits are you going to need. I mean, you're you're 42 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: going to win and make sure that that is installed 43 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: properly in a corn's in working with the building Department 44 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: fire marshals. I mean, so in other words, it's going 45 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: to depend on the type of stove really, in the efficiency, 46 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: the safety, the clearance, the chimney, how you're venting it. 47 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: There's kind of a lot that goes into it. But 48 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: I think, to answer your question that you actually asked me, 49 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 1: what do I think, I think it's a good way, 50 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, to extend the life of the furnace and 51 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: take to chill out of the house. And you know, also, 52 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: since it's under a thousand square feet, it's not like 53 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: we got to move a lot of heat. But a 54 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: lot of people look at supplemental heat with a wood 55 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: stove and they put it in like the fireplace and 56 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: insert and moving and living in a larger house, it's 57 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: hard to maybe circulate all that heated air to all 58 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: areas of the home. You should not have that difficulty. 59 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: Okay, great, I like your answer. I'm going to go 60 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: ahead and purchase Like it's just a small little wood 61 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: burner from maybe like a home depot or something. My 62 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: home's old enough to where the foundation has a I 63 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: guess what you would call a coal shoot. It's got 64 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: an actual metal door. I guess that they shoveled the 65 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: coal into the basement, right, and my goal is to 66 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 2: maybe you know, put the wood burner in that little area. 67 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 4: Of the basement. 68 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: It's a full basement. Yeah it's not. It's unfinished totally, 69 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: but it's nice. You know, brick I would probably have 70 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: been out through that that that shoot, so I'm not 71 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: running my vent you know, through the floor, through the 72 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: roof or anything like that. 73 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: So yep, so I guess that's my point. So when 74 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: you get in there, this is the steps I would 75 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: do is go in shop for the stove. Okay, when 76 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: you find something, you know, like I'm thinking, this is 77 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: the route I want to go, you know, right down 78 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: the manufacturer, right down the model number, get online and 79 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: read the installation directions all right, because that that's going 80 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: to be the key. How far do we keep it, 81 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, away from an inside wall, how much clearances 82 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: do we need? What type of piping that's going to need? 83 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: You know, you know you're not going up a chimney, 84 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: so can you go out of side wall? 85 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 5: Right? 86 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: And do I need a class A insulaed chimney pipe 87 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: or what? It'll tell you all that in the directions 88 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: on installation and to be honest, even if you had 89 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: already bought it and you start asking me those questions, 90 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: I'd say, well, what's that manual say, because they're all 91 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: kind of different depending on how that stove is actually built. 92 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: So that's what I do. Find one you like and 93 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: then get online because they're not going to give you 94 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: the owner's manual and just read on the connection and 95 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: how you're using it perfect. 96 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: So it's not a dumb idea to extend the life 97 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: of the furnace by doing this, because. 98 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: You know it's not going to be working as much, 99 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: so you're gonna automatically extend a little bit of the life. 100 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: My biggest concern, based on where you're saying, I think 101 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: probably the first thing the owner manual saying the owner 102 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: manual say if you use it for supplemental heat is 103 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: find a center area of the house to use it in. 104 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: And we're not okay, so that that would at least 105 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: by what you described to me, we wouldn't be using 106 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: the center of the house. So my main concern is 107 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: distribution of the heat that we're making. True, So, and 108 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: there's ways to do that. I mean, you know we can. Again, 109 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: I can't see how the setup of the house is. 110 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: But you can use fans to draw air area or 111 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: heated from one area to another area and put them 112 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: in like dull jams, small fans things like that. 113 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,559 Speaker 2: I've actually seen those fans. Is that no electricity needed, 114 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: They just they actually work from the heat. You would 115 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 2: actually set the fan on the wood burner itself, right 116 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: and it would it would at least circulate some of 117 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: the air in the basement. 118 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I appreciate your you not telling me, hey, you 119 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 6: know you need to just get a new furnace. 120 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: And bite the ball. But that's easy answer you. 121 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 6: Most efficiently. 122 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: And there's also other things too that you can do too. 123 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily have to be a wood burning stove. 124 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: I mean, there's different things like an edenpure where it 125 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: doesn't really get hot to touch. It just heats the 126 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: surfaces around, including you being a surface, that are economical 127 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: to operate. There's also like an inner therm here where 128 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: there's it's a water in a It works on convections 129 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: like six feet long and warms the air, pulls the 130 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: air underneath, and you could put it in a bedroom 131 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: or a family room, and you buy different sizes based 132 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: on the square footage of the of the house, so 133 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, there there are other things that would probably 134 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: be less of a hassle. Stay away, I'd say from 135 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: kerosene heaters, but you might take a look at some 136 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: of these inner them type heaters or even like an 137 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: eat and pure heater. There's a name for it, and 138 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: it's slipping in my mind where it is where it 139 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: just heats the objects. But google that read that too. 140 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: I mean you're probably still you know, five hundred bucks, 141 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: six hundred bucks, but you know, buy you some time. 142 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you priced out getting the 143 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: furnace of what that would cost. 144 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 5: Perfect. 145 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 2: One last question, is there a place I can go 146 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: and listen to this vary show? 147 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: Do you have like a podcast or sure? So what 148 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: we do is, I'll give you the whole spiel. 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Yeah, 168 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on there, and when you know, 169 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: I mean there is. There is an awful lot going 170 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: on there. The stove just just a configuration of the house, 171 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: configuration of the venting that's all going to come into play. 172 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: And there, you know, if we're just trying to buy 173 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: a little time and get some supplemental heat, there might 174 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: be an easier way, in even a less expensive way. 175 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: All Right, we'll continue with your calls. You're at Home 176 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: with Gary Sullivan. 177 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 7: It's the weekend, and you have fixed questions. 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And let's get back to 219 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: the phone calls we have ed ed. 220 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 5: Welcome, Thank you Gary, thanks for taking my call. 221 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: My goal as it is, I have that black acid 222 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: rain on my gutters. 223 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 5: Well, wait and forget. 224 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 8: If I spray it on there, we'll let's keep it, 225 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 8: keep it off. 226 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: It won't. 227 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 9: Okay, that's probably the best thing I've used to remove that. 228 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: And it's there's nothing that just to spray on and 229 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: walk away. It takes a little elbow grease and you 230 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: can still find it. It's white wall cleaner. And if 231 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: you spray that on, let's sit for about a minute 232 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: and then, uh, you don't have to use the scrub brush, 233 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: just you know, microfiber towel or cotton cloth or something 234 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: like that little elbow grease and it'll remove it. 235 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 5: Okay, that big box story here, but that. 236 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: Or even an automotive automotive supply or yeah, a big 237 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: box story in a Walmart or something. They'll have something 238 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: in a white wall tire cleaner and That's probably the 239 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: best thing I've used. Also, I think Walmart carries a 240 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: product called Purple Power. I've had people tell me that 241 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: that works real well too, and I've had some of 242 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: that before engines and stuff. 243 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 9: Okay, thank you and thank. 244 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: You later, take care, bye bye. All right, let's go 245 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: to Bill. Bill Welcome. 246 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hi, thanks Garry, thanks to taking my call. 247 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 248 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was calling a response to earlier this morning 249 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: you had a a caller was called and was talking 250 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: about is uninvited little guests crawling around the house, the mice, 251 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: and I just wanted to relate a little somewhat of 252 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: a solution. That is I stumbled on a number of 253 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: years ago accidentally and it kind of worked for us. Yeah, 254 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: my wife and I live in northeast Ohio, and our 255 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: home is one hundred and fifty five six years old 256 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: something like that, So there's plenty of opportunities for these 257 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: little critters to find a way in if they want to. 258 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: And usually obviously it's during the colder months, and we 259 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: have there was five six years ago something like that. 260 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: It was towards the end of fall, and I had 261 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: the yard. All of these pretty much finally got together 262 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: and got them out of there. And so I started 263 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: doing some trimming on some of the branches around the house, 264 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: particularly the spruce branches trees, spruce trees and pine trees, 265 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: and I have little piles and I picked them up 266 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: and then throw them out in the woods. And then 267 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: on the west side of our house, I had there 268 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: was a few these trees between our house and our 269 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: neighbor's house, and I cut those grantses down and had 270 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: a pile, and uh, I guess I was pretty much 271 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: done for the day. I just left them there and 272 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 3: it was right next to our bird feeders that we 273 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: had there. Well, days go by and there's the pile 274 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 3: still there. It's like maybe three feet in diameter and 275 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: I don't know, six seven inches high, and I'm out 276 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: there feeding the birds every day. And time goes on, 277 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: gold settles in the snow combs and all that sort 278 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: of stuff, and that pile is still there. And we 279 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: had we noticed that, you know, we didn't. It was 280 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: just one of these things we did. We noticed that 281 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: we didn't have our familiar uninvited guests into the house 282 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 3: so much that that and then during February we had 283 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 3: that thaws normal and I go out and I'm out there, 284 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 3: I said, well, it's a good day to get rid 285 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: of this pile. And I started to move the pile. 286 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: Lo and behold there was about three mice in there, 287 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 3: and uh, several little chickadees and a bunch of eating 288 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 3: up seeds and other seeds. So yeah, so what I 289 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 3: discover is that, you know, you know, we spend all 290 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 3: this time trying to track the bait him kill them. Yeah, 291 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: so the evolutions that worked for us is finding another place, 292 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 3: a little bit, another place well outside. 293 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you know, it makes sense. I can 294 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: remember the old story how do you get rid of 295 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: squirrels is go to the back of the yard and 296 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: give them peanuts and they'll stay off the roof of 297 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: your house. So you you did kind of just that 298 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: same type of thing. You gave them another option and 299 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: where they don't have to maybe chew the garage door 300 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: weather stripping off to get into your house. So that's 301 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: a great tip, and I appreciate that. That's a great 302 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: story and a good observation too, because, yeah, give them 303 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: a place to live, and all of a sudden, you 304 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: just don't have the problem. I thought you were going 305 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: to tell me that the smell of the spruce was 306 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: just keeping them away from the house, and that wasn't 307 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: the case at all. So I'm glad you finished the 308 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: story and let us know that that was successful. And 309 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, keeping mice out too. I mean, somebody told 310 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: me a long time ago, when you're talking about critters 311 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: and things, is you know all critters and I guess 312 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: including humans, right, we all strive for food and water, 313 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: food and water, food and water. And you know that's 314 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: why they're coming in the house. They're looking for food, 315 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: they're looking for water, they're and of course looking for shelter. 316 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: And if we don't have that nice and tight, they're 317 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: going to get in. And I learned that myself. When 318 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: people tell me they have mice, do you know where 319 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: they're getting in? 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At Home 368 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: with Gary Salvin. It's Saturday and Sunday our one hour, 369 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: two hour three the Special Project. So there's plenty of 370 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: information there. If you miss a weekend, maybe last weekend, 371 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: you can follow up and check and see what we 372 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: talked about. Usually a lot of good information. All right, 373 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: Not being said, let's get back to the phones. We 374 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: have Cliff Cliff welcome, So yes, sir, oh hi, yes. 375 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 5: Can you hear me? 376 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: Oh? 377 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 5: Okay, it kind of came okay, So I continue on 378 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 5: the conversation about the unwanted mice. We have a cottage 379 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 5: in the woods, and as you can imagine, it's it's 380 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,479 Speaker 5: very difficult to contain them or or prevent them. And 381 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 5: I had read that when we first bought this place 382 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 5: in twenty seventeen, and it was it's pretty much infested 383 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 5: with mice from a small mice, and I can hear 384 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 5: them through the suspended ceiling, running back and forth and 385 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 5: so on. And I tried traps for a long time, 386 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 5: and I read that, you know, if you cluck up 387 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 5: all the possible places, I could get in, take some 388 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 5: call and mix it with steel wool and that's a 389 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 5: pretty good return. Well I did that and that seemed 390 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 5: to help a little bit. But over time we still 391 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 5: had the problem. And we're not here a lot. It's 392 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 5: kind of a weekend place of vacation home, and we 393 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 5: come in and all the traps would be full. We'd 394 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 5: have ten fifteen when we come back, and we don't 395 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 5: want to empty out these little mouse corpses the first 396 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 5: thing that we do when we get in. So it 397 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 5: was suggested to me that that I get some bait boxes. 398 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 5: I don't know if you're familiar with those, but those 399 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 5: little black boxes with a hole at each end. The 400 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 5: mice come in there, there's bait in there, that's a 401 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 5: poisonous bait, and then they take it. They take it 402 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 5: back to the nest, poisons the nests, and I have 403 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 5: had great success with that. I'll check them every couple 404 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 5: of months and maybe i'll see some activity, you know, 405 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 5: droppings inside the bait boxes, but there's really not a 406 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 5: mouse problem now. It really solved it. 407 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: For us so when they take the bait cliff, do 408 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: they die in the cabin then? I mean, is odor 409 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: a problem? 410 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 5: No, they do? 411 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: Do they go? They don't. 412 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 5: They don't very rarely. We've had this now in our 413 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 5: eighth season, and I now too who have died inside 414 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 5: the cottage, but big on the number that we trapped, 415 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 5: a very very whole percentage actually die in the cottage. 416 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 5: Most up here to take it back the nest. And 417 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 5: it's really, uh proved great for us. 418 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: Hey, that's a good tip. Then I have never tried that. 419 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: I've never really had a major mouse issue. You know, 420 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: back in the day you had the Dcon mouseproof, which 421 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: a lot of hardware stores sold in the hit for 422 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: rats too, And the problem was back then as they 423 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: would search for water. If they didn't get out of 424 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: your house and died in the house, you know there'd 425 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 1: be an odor issue. But to hear that wasn't a 426 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: problem that they could go in and out. And yeah, 427 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to talk about some of 428 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: these sauna trolls if you've ever checked into those were 429 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: the high pitched sound. 430 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 5: Actually when we brought the place, they are scattered throughout 431 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 5: the cottage and they don't seem to make any difference. 432 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 5: They had that blue blinking light, and I've left them 433 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 5: in place since we bought them. They were avated when 434 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 5: we first took possession, and that's when we had the 435 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 5: mouse infestation, so apparently didn't do it good. Yeah, I've 436 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 5: you know, I'll open the box up and I'll I 437 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 5: can get the bait on Amazon, and I can the 438 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 5: bait on these little tins to close the box back 439 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 5: up and put back in place, and we're good to go. 440 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: I appreciate the tip, Thank you much, Gleff. Take care. 441 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: On the high pitched sounds, the reason I asked that, 442 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: I haven't used that either, But whenever I bring them 443 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: up on the show, I would say, if I was 444 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: going to put a percentage, I'd say fifty percent of 445 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: the people love them, and fifty percent said it made 446 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: no difference. It's like getting rid of moles. People say 447 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: that too. I'll talk about one item, one item, another item, 448 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: and it's like half the people say I had no 449 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: luck at all with that, or I had great luck 450 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: with that. So on the high pitched noise, that's I 451 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: haven't used it. I'm just going by people that and 452 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm about fifty to fifty there. All right, let's go 453 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: to Matt. Matt welcome, Hey Gary. 454 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 8: Yes, So we have the house down in South Carolina 455 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 8: and we just pulled up all the carpeting and the 456 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 8: padding and it sits on a concrete slab, and we 457 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 8: want to put luxury vinyl plank flooring down, and so 458 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 8: I know we need to put down vapor barrier and 459 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 8: they're recommending like a six mil polyethylene vapor barrier. The 460 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 8: flooring we picked out has a like a pre attached 461 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 8: padding on it, like a one millimeter padding. The question 462 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 8: we had is, you know, do we should we put 463 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 8: down another like a one and a half millimeter foam 464 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 8: padding for They say it's for acoustic, but obviously it's 465 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 8: on a slab. I don't know that we need sound deading. 466 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 8: But we're not sure that that one millimeter padding that's 467 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 8: attached to the plank is enough for the flooring to 468 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 8: have a good feel and not flex too much. I'm 469 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 8: not sure if you have a thought. 470 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: So so so, so I'm a little confused. I know 471 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: about the pad and I know it's for acoustical, and 472 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: so are you more concerned about the cushioning of the 473 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: floor you're more concerned about the vapor barrier being installed 474 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: with what exactly the question. 475 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 8: The cushioning, so we know so it'll have the six 476 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 8: mil vapor barriers or good there. It's a question of 477 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 8: do we need an additional fam underlayment on top of 478 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 8: the attached padding that's on the plank itself. 479 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: My quick answer is no, you shouldn't. But there is, uh, 480 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: there's a number of things. Uh. There there is a 481 00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: underlayment for laminate flooring. It's almost like a pad that 482 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: is for carpet. And I cannot remember the name of it. 483 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: We actually had the guy on the show probably fifteen 484 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: years ago. I have to look it up. I just 485 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: can't remember the name. I want to say dry corps, 486 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: but that's what dry corps is. Another option. It's actually 487 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: wood squares that are elevated about three ace of an 488 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 1: inch and the flooring can go on top of that, 489 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: which will add a little bit more softening effect to it. 490 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: And then if there were ever a moisture issue where 491 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: water got in. This is actually elevated Yeah, three ace 492 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: of an inch and that adds some cushioning. But with 493 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: that sound deadening and the vapor barrier I don't think 494 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna need Can you snap a couple people or 495 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: a couple things together and stand on it and see 496 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: if it's going to make a difference. 497 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 5: We could do that. 498 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, we could get a few sample. 499 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: Planks, and yeah, I think i'd do thatmpus. You know 500 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: my idea of it needs cushioning, in your idea it 501 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: needs cushing. It might be two different things. 502 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, I understand, yep, And yeah, and I didn't know 503 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 8: if we would have if you can get to the 504 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 8: point where you have too much flex thing since it's 505 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 8: a snap and off type four. 506 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: Well you could and if I could remember, and I 507 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: will try to look it up. I don't know if 508 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: I'll find it real quick or not. But they do 509 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: have uh products out there that is available for that 510 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: for lambing it. So I don't know about the l VT, 511 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: whether you could use that or not. It's like I said, 512 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: it's been a long time since I talked to this person. 513 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 5: Uh. 514 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: But what I would do is I'd put a couple 515 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: together and I'd stand out and see if that's going 516 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: to you know, with your vapor barrier there, and see 517 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: if that's gonna accommodate you okay, A very good thanks, 518 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: good day you too, bye bye. Yeah. I wish I 519 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: could remember the name of it, but i'm my experience 520 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: with LVT. LVT if you haven't looked at it, LVT 521 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: stands for Luxury vinyl tile, Luxury vinyl tile, very very durable. 522 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: They make it two ways. They make it a water 523 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: resistant and a waterproof two different things. Waterproof is waterproof. 524 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: Water resistant means it'll tolerate a little. But one of 525 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: the things is, you know, if it's if it's looking 526 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: like a ceramic tile, so it looks like ceramic tile, 527 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: it looks like wood, it looks like planks, and that's LVP. 528 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: It's the LVT. But I would say, like an LVT 529 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: is it's it feels. It's not supposed to feel real bouncy, right, 530 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: it's looking like wood. When I when it first came 531 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: to the market, I stand on some lv T that 532 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: looked like wood and absolutely true, sir is an international 533 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: builder show. When I stood on it, I thought it 534 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: was wood. It was that authentic and it felt like wood. 535 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: So wood doesn't have a bounce. It's not like carpet. 536 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: So that's another thing to kind of enter into the equation. 537 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break. Joe. You'll be up first, 538 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: and we've got Mark, Terry Mike as we continue. 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How you doing for Louisville? 582 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: Doing fine, sir, thank you. 583 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 10: I was calling concerning the fellow with the woodstoves that 584 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 10: called earlier, and I've been burning wood for about twelve years, 585 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 10: and I want to remind him to check his homeowner's 586 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 10: policy because they haven't out not to pay if something 587 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 10: happens he comes to woodstoves. 588 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, he said he checked it, but I don't know 589 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: if he asked those questions. I think he was more 590 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: checking how much his insurance would go up, but hopefully 591 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: he did. 592 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 10: State Farm required me to run a stainless sleeve through 593 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,959 Speaker 10: my entire chimney to uh well satisfy their requirements. 594 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, I told him to check with his local 595 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: also to see exactly you know, usually work with local permits, 596 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: and then you work with the fire department or inspectors. Also. 597 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 1: I think how longer we talked with them, the more 598 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: I was thinking, maybe there's other supplemental heat you should go. 599 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a small it's under one thousand square feet, 600 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: but it wasn't going to be centrally located, and I 601 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: thought that could be it could be a problem. 602 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 11: Fourteen hundred square feet and I went from nine hundred 603 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 11: gallons of propane to a hundred gallons a year. 604 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: Well, I went with the dual. 605 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 11: Fuel furnace, put in new windows and a fire place, 606 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 11: and I've got tremendous savings on propane here. 607 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: So yeah, well I've got heat. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm 608 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: not I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just 609 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: telling them, you know, check other options and see. You know, 610 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: I don't think he's done a lot of research at 611 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: that point, but you know, certainly a would stove would 612 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: be helpful. Certainly there are some things you need to 613 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 1: check out. I was a little concerned also about venting 614 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 1: and how what type of pipe would be required venting 615 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: it up through a call shoot. So I was a 616 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: little concerned, but not being able to see it. It's 617 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: hard to answer those questions. 618 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 11: Yeah, I grew up on a farm. I'm leaving to 619 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 11: Jerry ring a lot of stubs. Yeah, oh yeah, no, 620 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 11: don't sacrifice your house for it. 621 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: Right, very good, Thank you much. All right, and let's 622 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: go to Terry. 623 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 4: Terry, welcome, Welcome, Thank you Gary. Yes, sir, I'll stay 624 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 4: with the rodent theme that we have going. 625 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: All right, I've got. 626 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 4: I. First of all, I tried the ultrasonic thing because 627 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 4: I thought I had moles. That didn't work. I also 628 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 4: tried it birds when I'm supposed to leave built for birds. 629 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 4: That didn't work either. 630 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: Okay, just to. 631 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 4: Add to your your knowledge, but I have armadillos that 632 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 4: have migrated into my area and they make these huge mounds, 633 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 4: kind of like moles, huge, and they tear up everything. 634 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 4: And I wanted to see what your recommendations would be 635 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 4: for getting rid of them. 636 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: You know what, I have no recommendations, Therry, because I 637 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: haven't even I've seen an armadillo, but I've never had 638 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: an armadilla. I've never had the chore of getting rid 639 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: of them, though I know we've had listeners that have 640 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 1: called in the past about that I'm just not familiar 641 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,720 Speaker 1: with them enough to answer a question along those lines. 642 00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: So keep listening. There's somebody. So it's as soon when 643 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 1: you start talking. I looked where you're from, and you're 644 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 1: from Missouri, so yes, again, they're not native to your area. 645 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 4: They are now. 646 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been migrating. 647 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 7: I called I called. 648 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 4: Local University because this is actually in a house in 649 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 4: Illinois that we own, and they had been tracking the 650 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,439 Speaker 4: migration for years and they actually showed up, he said, 651 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 4: in the nineteen seventies. But their population is slow, so 652 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 4: slow to increase. They're just now getting to the point 653 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 4: where they're getting out of the woods and going into 654 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 4: the neighborhoods. And they said, we would you know, I said, 655 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 4: since you're tracking them, you know, do you you know, 656 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 4: catch them or anything. They said, well, yeah, we could 657 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 4: come out there and catch it. That would be no problem. 658 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 4: We would tag it and make sure that it didn't 659 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 4: have any disease, and then we'd bring right back to 660 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 4: where we found it and let it loose. 661 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: And I know, I don't want it. 662 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 9: I don't want it going on a very basic thing 663 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 9: and probably not going to help you out at all, Terry, 664 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 9: But you know, I'm I'm sure we can do a 665 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 9: little research and find out and people will also call. 666 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: But one of the things I know most burrowing animals. Again, 667 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: I go back to the simplest of simple. All animals 668 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: are looking for what what, food, water, shelter. I'm guessing 669 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 1: it's a food thing. And I'm sure their foods would 670 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: be like grubs and different things along those lines. Uh so, 671 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: you know, so maybe eliminating Yeah, so you know, eliminating grubs, 672 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: but you don't want to eliminate worms. But keep listening. 673 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure we're going to get that question. I find 674 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: it fascinating that, you know, there's so many things that 675 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: are changing, you know, climate based. In fact, my wife 676 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: and I we were talking, our leaves are still green 677 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 1: this time of the year is unusual, and we've watched 678 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: the progressive over the last probably twenty years. As a kid, 679 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: I remember raking leaves on Columbus Day and they were 680 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: about dropped by then. And in our area now here 681 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: we are, you know, not a problem. They're still green. 682 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 4: Well, so here's what here's what an arbor has told me. 683 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,760 Speaker 4: Because I have a sweet gumball tree. 684 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: Oh I grew up. 685 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, and this one I've had sprayed once and at worked. 686 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 4: I've tried the injections that didn't work to get rid 687 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 4: of the sweet gumballs. But anyway, this year, because our 688 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 4: spring was so wet and everything, all the fold age 689 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 4: came out on the tips of the limbs and then 690 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 4: we had some bad storms come through. But not during 691 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 4: the storms, but like for several weeks, every other day, 692 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 4: I would have a huge limb about six inches in 693 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 4: diameter that would break out of the tree and I'm like, 694 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 4: what is going on? Is it dying? Well, no, it 695 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 4: was just that it rained. All the water was in 696 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 4: the at the end of the branches, and probably because 697 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 4: of the storm it might have cracked it. But instead 698 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 4: of healing up and everything now the weight it. 699 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: Just breaks them out. 700 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean we had these were huge limbs 701 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 4: and I'm like, wow, yeah, this is unbelievable. I'll tell 702 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 4: you one other thing that the university, the department that 703 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 4: was studying the armadillos. Yes, because I opened up my 704 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 4: glass lighting the on my glass siding door and there 705 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 4: was one scurrying alongside the house. I went around to 706 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 4: the back and it was underneath some leaves and I 707 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 4: had a cold and I happened to cough and he 708 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 4: stood up on its hind legs and he's looking around. 709 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 4: They are blind. Oh it's like a mole u. But 710 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 4: they have keen hearing and smell right. And then I 711 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 4: coughed again and it ran off. And I told him that, 712 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 4: and he goes, Yes, if you scare them, they won't 713 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 4: come back. And that was true for about four months. 714 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 4: But they're back now, so I think listening, Gary keep saying. 715 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 1: All right, my friend, thank you very much for the info. 716 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. All right, we got more coming your way. 717 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: I want to tell you another favorite product. It's the 718 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 1: Jaws Cleaner. It's the just add water system, streak free glass, 719 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: heavy duty grime cleaner. Jaws will deliver pro strength cleaners, 720 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 1: trusted by the pros man. I use it all the 721 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: time at our house. 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