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Speaker 4: For sure, those who listened to nine to Noon know

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Speaker 4: Scott Zolac, the analyst for the Patriots radio network, is

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Speaker 4: one of our very favorites around here, all the way

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Speaker 4: back to what are you looking at, beetle Scott, it's

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Speaker 4: it's awesome having it's awesome having you with us.

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Speaker 2: And how much do you love calling New England Patriots games.

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Speaker 1: Known as much as I love listen to the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: title game and you gotta be kidd meet Brett farm

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Speaker 1: that's the NFC championship game. You can't make that, bro,

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Speaker 1: That's I'm That's a Paul Own legendary call. Can we

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Speaker 2: All the talk about my show, I can't believe what

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Speaker 4: But when you thank you when you call these Patriots games, man,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, obviously we got some Super Bowls.

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Speaker 4: whether you're getting critical or whether you're celebrating, you love

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Speaker 2: Games, don't you.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? And it's like painting a picture, you know. Being

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Speaker 1: Like you got to set the seed. You gotta know

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Speaker 1: good calls, but when are bad, pretty good? And uh,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing better calling an NFL game, You know that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure?

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Speaker 4: What what's it like working with the scholarly Bob Soci

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Speaker 4: the play by play guy for the Pats, With his

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Speaker 4: with his understated ways, you guys make the perfect team

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Speaker 4: for Patriots Radio, at least that's how I see it.

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Speaker 4: What do you like calling games with Bob?

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Speaker 1: It's amazing he put so much preparation into it, and

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Speaker 1: we we're so different, we'll like completely polar opposites, like

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Speaker 1: But boss mcgreat, We've done five Super Bowls. I did

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Speaker 1: He's super competitive. First of all, I played against his dad,

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Speaker 1: I remember, I remember that last quarter against the Rams.

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Speaker 4: I know that Scott, you know this better than anybody.

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Speaker 1: Copycat league, Man, that's what you did. He studied the film.

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Speaker 1: We have four former head coaches for our staff. They

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Speaker 4: Hey, Scott, what recently, actually yesterday, What do you think

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Speaker 4: The Scott Zolac, analyst for the Patriots Radio Network nine

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Speaker 4: to noon with a Football Covenant catchup. The Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 1: Not? Great?

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Speaker 1: I just you can read a lot of stuff on him.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's just when you're not on a

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Speaker 4: When calling New England Patriots games, which team do you

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one. Probably the Jets. We like.

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Speaker 1: Beat Miami. I thought you were gonna ask you what's

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Speaker 1: I love going back to back to Hindesfield to call

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Speaker 4: H Digsy step On Diggs was was Diggs a handful

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Speaker 4: hey man, it was great seeing you at the combine.

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Speaker 4: How are things good?

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Speaker 6: So it's excited we could have a major league team.

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Speaker 4: Secondly, what was this year's combine because we saw each

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Speaker 3: Plus we know that media has grown and there's all

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Speaker 6: And so I think it's a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: I love that Now locally, we have a former teammate

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Speaker 3: Had a choice between playing quarterback but his dad was

440
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Speaker 3: a high school coach, or sticking with hockey, so he

441
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Speaker 3: chose the quarterback route. But I mean, he started a

442
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Speaker 3: game in the NFL in Week seventeen a few years

443
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Speaker 3: ago when the Giants actually made the playoffs. Not that

444
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Speaker 3: a lot of people remember that Daniel Jones sat and

445
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Speaker 3: he started that Week seventeen game, and then as a

446
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks coach the next year for the Broncos and year

447
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Speaker 3: one with Sean Payton here, and he's got every game

448
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Speaker 3: plan he's ever had since high school or maybe even

449
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Speaker 3: before that, on spreadsheets and on files on his computer.

450
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Speaker 3: And you talk to the quarterbacks that they love them,

451
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 3: and talk to some defensive coaches with the team, they

452
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Speaker 3: think that he's got a really creative mind. And so

453
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Speaker 3: I think that Sean also is sixty two years old

454
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Speaker 3: and knows that he maybe isn't as quick as he

455
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Speaker 3: was now. Once they quit getting the play in and

456
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Speaker 3: knowing what's coming next and looking ahead, because at sixty two,

457
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Speaker 3: your brain may just not fire the way it once

458
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Speaker 3: did when you were fifty two or forty two.

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Speaker 6: And so that's not a knock on Sean. But he

460
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Speaker 6: always talks about Bill Parcells.

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Speaker 3: We hear about Bill Parcells probably once a week PA

462
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Speaker 3: and Bill Parcells didn't necessarily call the plays. Now, he

463
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Speaker 3: made sure they were running the plays.

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Speaker 1: He won.

465
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Speaker 6: I think about Mike Brabel in that AFC title game.

466
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure Josh McDaniels would have run it nine

467
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Speaker 3: straight times coming out at halftime, but I have a

468
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Speaker 3: feeling Mike Brabel said, hey, we're running it, so just

469
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Speaker 3: keep running the football. And so I think with Sean,

470
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Speaker 3: he's gonna let Davis, I think learn on the job.

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Speaker 6: Now. Will it surprise me if.

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Speaker 3: Come week two, week three, week four, they struggle and

473
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Speaker 3: Sean gives us a press conference, Well, that was Davis's call,

474
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Speaker 3: and kind of I've got to let him, you know,

475
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Speaker 3: run his own race kind of thing. I wouldn't be

476
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Speaker 3: blown away if if Sean with some of that, but

477
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Speaker 3: I think he's he can't take it back from him.

478
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Speaker 3: In Week two or three or four if they're struggling.

479
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Speaker 3: I think this is a year long thing because they

480
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Speaker 3: saw Davis getting all these looks, and I think that

481
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Speaker 3: whether this was said publicly or is thought like, Hey,

482
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Speaker 3: if he's going to go be the head coach of

483
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Speaker 3: the Raiders and we're gonna see Davis web beat us

484
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Speaker 3: for ten straat years, Sean, we're never gonna let you

485
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Speaker 3: live it down.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: Again, this is me reading between the lines. So I

488
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Speaker 3: don't think he would have done this for anybody. I

489
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Speaker 3: don't think you would have given it over to Joe

490
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Speaker 3: Lombardi or Pete Carmichael, his longtime assistants who are no

491
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Speaker 3: longer with the team. But I do think because of

492
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Speaker 3: how unique Davis is and how they view him, that

493
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Speaker 3: Sean was comfortable doing this at this point in his

494
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Speaker 3: career and it might make him better head coach because

495
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Speaker 3: he's never really had the chance to during the game,

496
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Speaker 3: top to the defensive coach a little bit more, talk

497
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Speaker 3: to the special teams coordinators a little bit more, and

498
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Speaker 3: not be thinking about what comes next or what he

499
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Speaker 3: might be seeing out there that he can suggest, Hey, Davis,

500
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Speaker 3: it looks like they're playing so and so a certain

501
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Speaker 3: way or look at the room of that safety. We

502
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Speaker 3: should probably look at this. I think it could make

503
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Speaker 3: him potentially a better head coach.

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506
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Speaker 4: On a backtrack for a second, because you were kind

507
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Speaker 4: of going over the landscape of Denver Sports and Broncos

508
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Speaker 4: Country and Nuggets and the Rockies will be bad again.

509
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Speaker 4: But then you kind of flippantly said, and the Avalanche,

510
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Speaker 4: you know, like, are super good? Just asked the Wild

511
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Speaker 4: or as the Wild saw Sunday, you don't. You don't

512
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Speaker 4: for a second thing. The Minnesota Wild can't beat the

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Speaker 4: Colorado Avalanche in a seven game series, do you?

514
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Speaker 3: Oh you think? I don't think that they could. I

515
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Speaker 3: think they definitely could. Right, it's the NHL, and you know,

516
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Speaker 3: you got obviously, you know, guys like Matt Bowldy and

517
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Speaker 3: a really good team there. There's there's a reason that

518
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Speaker 3: they're right in the mix with the with the Stars

519
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Speaker 3: and even you know certainly in it. You know, the

520
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Speaker 3: Adelantes can see the Wild in their rearview. They can't

521
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Speaker 3: you know, necessarily see the other teams out lest the

522
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Speaker 3: whether you know, you're talking about the Ducks and the oiler,

523
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Speaker 3: but when you're talking about eight seven points now absolutely

524
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Speaker 3: could could be the beat the Abs in the seven

525
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Speaker 3: game series. And this convoluted playoffs set up with the

526
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Speaker 3: NHL where it feels like the NFL stumbles into getting

527
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Speaker 3: things right all the time and the NHL gets in

528
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Speaker 3: their own way on stuff all the time. And the

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Speaker 3: fact that the Avs in Round two are going to

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Speaker 3: play the Stars of the Wild. And if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 3: don't the Stars in Wild? Won't they play in Round one?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Right, that's ridiculous, ridiculous, I know, but those are the rules,

534
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Speaker 4: men and men, so you got to follow them and do.

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Speaker 2: The best you can.

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Speaker 4: The Wild have two games left this year with the

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Speaker 4: Stars and then hopefully there's some tone setters. Now to basketball,

538
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Speaker 4: is this just not the Nuggets year or I mean,

539
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Speaker 4: it's a very good team. They've gotten themselves healthy. Jamal

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Speaker 4: Murray looks like he's playing on one leg, but he's playing.

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Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon just came back, Jokers MVP guy. The minute

542
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Speaker 4: the schedule comes out, you got Watson and Strather and

543
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Speaker 4: Christian Brown and so on. But for some reason they

544
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Speaker 4: just can't seem to get traction.

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Speaker 2: Is that fair?

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Speaker 3: Well, you say that they've gotten healthy. When you say

547
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Speaker 3: they've gotten healthy, it's been in the last couple of days.

548
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Speaker 3: Before Aaron Gordon came back the other day, they'd only

549
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Speaker 3: played thirteen games with their Pencilton starters. Which is Murray

550
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Speaker 3: now finally an All Star in year ten or whatever,

551
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Speaker 3: but he was on that short list of best players

552
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Speaker 3: and ever be an All Star. But Murray Christian Brown,

553
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Speaker 3: who missed a bunch of times. He's never missed time

554
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Speaker 3: in his whole career, going back to you know, even

555
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Speaker 3: as a kid in high school, college, you never missed

556
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Speaker 3: any time.

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Speaker 6: And so that's been an adjustment.

558
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Speaker 3: Aaron Gordon was hurt most of last year, including late

559
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Speaker 3: in the playoffs, and was hurt most of this year.

560
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Speaker 3: And then Cameron Johnson, who they traded Michael Porter for,

561
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Speaker 3: he's been hurt a bunch as well. And Joker missed

562
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Speaker 3: a whole month, which is something we've never.

563
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Speaker 2: Seen a good point.

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Speaker 3: So they haven't been truly healthy and they're still obviously

565
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Speaker 3: kind of hanging around. They looked good against the Lakers,

566
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Speaker 3: closed them out, looked like garbage against the mix the

567
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Speaker 3: next night and then went and played okay, see tough again,

568
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Speaker 3: but blew a sixteen point lead. And this is the

569
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Speaker 3: fifth time this year which has never happened since Joker's

570
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Speaker 3: been on the team, even when they weren't necessari good yet,

571
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Speaker 3: where they've blown five sixteen point leads, And so it

572
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Speaker 3: has people saying, well, did you move on from Michael

573
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Speaker 3: Malone too fast?

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Speaker 6: Was David Adaman just handled the job? I know think

575
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Speaker 6: either of those things are true.

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Speaker 3: I think that the message has maybe gotten stale with

577
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Speaker 3: coach Malone. I think David Adaman is a good coach

578
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Speaker 3: and is gonna become a better coach. But there are

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Speaker 3: growing pains and then you know, Peyton Watson's missed now

580
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Speaker 3: most of the year. So if they can put it

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Speaker 3: all together, okay, I like their chances to make noise

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs. The problem is they're currently a six

583
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Speaker 3: seed and if they goof around, they could drop into

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Speaker 3: the play in and just like we're talking about, could

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Speaker 3: the Wild beat the Star or the Aves or or

586
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Speaker 3: the Stars absolutely more easily? But in those playing games, yeah,

587
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Speaker 3: as a six or seven or eight, you're gonna get

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Speaker 3: two shots at it.

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Speaker 6: But then you're going against the number one or two team.

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Speaker 3: So look, they're just a couple of games away from

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're a game away from being the three

592
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Speaker 3: seed also, and they're gonna see the Rockets and Kevin

593
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Speaker 3: Durant in town tonight and company. So they could jump

594
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Speaker 3: to the three seed here in the next day or two.

595
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Speaker 3: But the t Wolves are obviously right there. I think

596
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Speaker 3: they think they might be done with it. The t

597
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Speaker 3: Wolves after that game the other day, which is so

598
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 3: weird because we're used to so many March and April

599
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: games mattering in that series. I think they maybe have

600
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Speaker 3: one more left with the Thunder. If not, they might

601
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Speaker 3: be done with them too. So weird scheduling. But the Nuggets,

602
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Speaker 3: if they can get healthy and still a big if

603
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Speaker 3: it's certainly a big if with guys like Aaron Gordon,

604
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Speaker 3: then they will be a very, very tough out, just

605
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Speaker 3: like we saw last year where they took the Thunder

606
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Speaker 3: to seven game.

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Speaker 4: How good is bone Nicks and how good can he be?

608
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Speaker 4: How good is he now?

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Speaker 3: You remember how good Derek Carr was before he got

610
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Speaker 3: hurt and they were going to the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: I think that's about how good he is now.

612
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the different kind of player, but

613
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Speaker 3: like okay, he is getting his team to the playoffs,

614
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Speaker 3: and it would have been fun to see him in

615
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Speaker 3: the AFC title game against the Patriots.

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Speaker 6: It was obviously an ugly.

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Speaker 3: Game and the weather made things almost unwatchable. And then

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Speaker 3: who knows what would have happened in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: Would they have won? I don't know, would have been closer.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Broncos oh lines better and the Broncos

621
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Speaker 3: defense is better than the Patriots, so that.

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Speaker 6: Doesn't and they would have been the Super Bowl champ.

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Speaker 3: I think that when you hear the comparisons to Drew Brees,

624
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Speaker 3: they're not the same kind of player, but they do

625
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Speaker 3: have that same kind of supercomputer brain that Sean Payton

626
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Speaker 3: and quarterback coaches and offensive coordinators love so much, and

627
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Speaker 3: head coaches for that matter, and so he can make

628
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Speaker 3: pretty much all the throws. He doesn't look like Josh

629
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Speaker 3: Allen or Patrick Mahomes, but the ball gets there. He's

630
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Speaker 3: had a couple passes in his first two years that

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Speaker 3: have been near the top, if not I think number

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Speaker 3: one in air yards on a pass to Marvin Men's

633
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Speaker 3: that travel the sixty seven air yards. I think either

634
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: against the Bengals or the Browns last year, so he

635
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: has a better arm to people think he's faster than

636
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Speaker 3: even the Broncos realize, and he processes things really quickly.

637
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Speaker 3: You know, going back to that game where JK. Dobbins

638
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: got hurt, there was video or you caught it if

639
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: you're watching on Amazon Prime of him yelling at Sean Payton,

640
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Speaker 3: get your FN personnel in here, because he just wants

641
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: things to go a little faster, because he can get

642
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage and diagnose things like so many.

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Speaker 6: Great quarterbacks can do.

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Speaker 3: So I think his ceiling is in that Drew Brees

645
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Speaker 3: level of production in a Sean offense. And his floor

646
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: right now is Derek Carr before the injury. And you

647
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Speaker 3: look at bow He just had a baby a couple

648
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Speaker 3: of weeks ago and there was a picture of him

649
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Speaker 3: carrying his baby girl out of the hospital, no ankle

650
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Speaker 3: brace on, no cast, no walking boot, and he said

651
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Speaker 3: that it.

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Speaker 6: Was a pretty straightforward procedure with his broken ankle.

653
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Speaker 3: So will he be in the same category, you know,

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton said the nexteple years is gonna be a.

655
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Speaker 6: Top five quarterback. I'm not ready to go there.

656
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Speaker 3: But it feels like even at the top, with guys

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Speaker 3: like Lamar and Josh Allen and even Mahomes, we're not

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Speaker 3: putting qualifiers. And Joe Burrow, can they stay healthy? What's

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Speaker 3: going on around him? And I don't know what it takes.

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Speaker 3: You know, Mahomes babies and is not still in his

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Speaker 3: own category. You have to win to get there. And

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Speaker 3: Sam Donald just won a Super Bowl. But I don't

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Speaker 3: think if I told you could have Sam Donald next year,

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Speaker 3: bon Nicks, I don't know how many people we'll excuse

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Speaker 3: the Vikings And Sam was really good, but you say, okay,

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Speaker 3: not just next year, but you get Sam Donalder bon

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Speaker 3: Nicks going forward. You've called Vikings games forever. And I

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Speaker 3: know you like Sam Donald. Would you rather have Sam

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Speaker 3: Donald for the next five years or bon Nicks?

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Speaker 2: Bonnick? What about you?

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Speaker 3: Probably the consensus he's probably in that second tier of

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Speaker 3: like the Dak Prescott world in terms of how the

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Speaker 3: league sees him. But nobody goes into a game against

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys just saying, oh, Dak's gonna be the reason

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys lose?

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Speaker 6: Can he throw interceptions? Can he be bad? Sure?

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Speaker 3: But you know it's that world of like Boomerasias and

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Speaker 3: Randall Cunningham every Sunday you're like, well, this is the

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Speaker 3: best guy.

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Speaker 6: We Yeah, he's our guy. But you know, Dante Culpepper.

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Speaker 3: When he was obviously playing really well in his heyday,

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Speaker 3: you didn't want to necessarily trade. You weren't trading Dante

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Speaker 3: Culpepper when they were going toe to toe kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: That's how That's how Bonnicks feels right now. You win

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Speaker 3: a championship or two and that's still again a team thing.

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Speaker 3: That might change the way people look at him. And

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Speaker 3: if his numbers continue to be good, He's got more

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Speaker 3: wins in the first two years of his career than

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Speaker 3: anybody I think all time, or tied with Andrew Luck

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Speaker 3: and Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and I get there's two more games, but still

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Speaker 6: pretty impressed.

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Speaker 2: All right, ninety seconds, you get it all.

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Speaker 4: What's the ad BK Denver Sports or Guerrilla Sports take

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Speaker 4: on what happened between the Ravens and Raiders and Max Crosby.

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Speaker 6: I think that a couple of things happened.

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Speaker 3: One of them is they realized they could get Trey

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Speaker 3: Hendrickson and keep their two first round picks. They realized

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Speaker 3: the way the rules are set up, they can get

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Speaker 3: a deal done, but until it's officially official, they don't

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Speaker 3: have to do it. Max is twenty nine, I mean

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Speaker 3: Trey Henderson's what he's got to be thirty or thirty one,

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Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken, But they can control that more easily.

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Speaker 3: And I think that, you know, the Ravens, the old

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Speaker 3: Ravens never were going to make this move.

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Speaker 6: Ozzieknews some still in the building.

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Speaker 3: Eric Tacosta obviously has come up under Ozzie, and they

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Speaker 3: still work really closely together, even if Oz he's just

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Speaker 3: a consultant. And so I think that I guess, I

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Speaker 3: don't know if it was Max's need, like his knee's

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Speaker 3: not going to pass a physical right now, but it's

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Speaker 3: the early part of March. It's March eleventh. It'll pass

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Speaker 3: a physical come September tenth or eleventh when the season starts,

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Speaker 3: And so I I think they're twelve or thirteenth. I

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Speaker 3: think that they just had some buyer's remorse and realize

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Speaker 3: Hendrickson was out there for about the same money. But

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Speaker 3: they get to keep their first round picks, which is

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Speaker 3: something they cover it because the Ravens and Pa, You've

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Speaker 3: done this a long time. They draft better than anybody,

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Speaker 3: they certainly have over the last twenty years, and so

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Speaker 3: to give up two picks I think was probably too

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Speaker 3: much for them to swallow. And it might be that easy,

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Speaker 3: but it's gonna certainly, I think give them a bit

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Speaker 3: of a black eye without the league's gonna deal with

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Speaker 3: them in the short term. Perhaps it's dirty, I mean,

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Speaker 3: the whole thing's dirty. But yeah, we could chat about

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Speaker 3: that some other time. Hey, great chatting with you, man.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it more often. Safe travels. All right, I'm available.

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Speaker 3: I'll see you somebody.

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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Speaker 4: Brandon Christol at BK Denver Sports back to close the

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Speaker 4: show after.

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Speaker 2: Kullit cuit until tomorrow tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Brent here from rose mout be a lifelong Vikings

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Speaker 8: fan thirty plus years. What's wrong with sticking with JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 8: It's worst case scenario, we get a top five pick

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Speaker 8: next year. Best case scenario, he brings us to the

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Speaker 8: playoffs and we know we got our guy for the

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Speaker 8: next ten years.

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Speaker 6: Am I missing something here?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's a terrific question. Now, the worst case scenario,

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Speaker 4: you're awful, super bad, and you get a top five pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean have a private conversation with Justin Jefferson about that.

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Speaker 2: So it just hanging to work.

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Speaker 4: So clearly there are things with the with the maturation

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Speaker 4: and or development of JJ McCarthy that seems to be

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Speaker 4: causing the team pause. So that's it's it's perplexing. That's that.

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Speaker 4: That's the best way I can answer it right now,

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Speaker 4: not being around there frequently. But you know later today

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Speaker 4: when the first official day of the league year commences,

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Speaker 4: well that's when Kyler Kirk and whomever watch officially begins

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Speaker 4: nine to noon.

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Speaker 2: Will uh we will?

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Speaker 4: We will opine with whatever happens or doesn't happen tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: From Boxing the Box.

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Speaker 5: From South Minneapolis. Why do I just have the feeling

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Speaker 5: that Kyler Murray is going to be a disaster, Maybe

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Speaker 5: not Josh Freeman level disaster, but just a disaster. And

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Speaker 5: I really wish that I'm wrong. I will eat my

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Speaker 5: words happily if he leads us to the Promised Land.

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Speaker 5: But it just doesn't feel right period.

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Speaker 7: And appreciates talkback, brother suns out, it's supposed to be

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Speaker 7: come on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's and that opinion has been formulated. There also

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Speaker 4: are those who will see the dynamic nature of Kyler

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Speaker 4: Murray's highlights on social media machines, and they'll be like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: don't just give one and one, give five and one hundred,

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Speaker 4: three and one hundred. It's Kyler for me. As I

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Speaker 4: said earlier, always has been a tough figure. He's always

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Speaker 4: been a tricky figure.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: I've called several vikings games against Arizona and Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 4: So then you'll learn a lot from, you know, those

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Speaker 4: with staffs about certain positive and negative things. There have

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Speaker 4: been so many games. There have been a fair amount

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Speaker 4: of games where I just I and we think, all right,

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Speaker 4: he ain't gonna beat you, he ain't gonna beat you,

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Speaker 4: look at this, and then all of a sudden, he

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Speaker 4: beats you. So he has that gamer gene to him.

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Speaker 2: And that's not.

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Speaker 4: That's not a sidewinding all of duty contractual joke.

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Speaker 2: He has game to him.

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Speaker 4: I just like I've said during the course of the

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Speaker 4: last week, and I just can't wait for it to

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Speaker 4: be over. So we know what it looks like and

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