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Speaker 1: Steelers at Detroit.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now a man who played for both teams

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Speaker 2: and played well, he is the great Charlie Batch. Charlie,

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Speaker 2: you played for the Lions, here for the Steelers, but

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure you're rooted for the Steelers when this

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Speaker 2: matchup takes place.

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Speaker 3: Correct, Oh, absolutely I do.

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Speaker 4: And if you know this, you know, obviously my heart

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Speaker 4: is in Pittsburgh, but I started my career in Detroit,

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Speaker 4: and you know, and then selfishly, I'm like, man, I

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Speaker 4: hope that the Steelers continued their success against the Lions

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Speaker 4: because each year that it happens, or every time that happens,

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Speaker 4: I could turn around and say, hey, it's been so

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Speaker 4: long since the Lions had beaten the Steelers, because now

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Speaker 4: it's twenty six years and that was the last quarterback

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Speaker 4: for the Lions to beat the Steelers back in nineteen

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Speaker 4: ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: What is the Steelers' best bet to win this game

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Speaker 2: at Detroit, Charlie?

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Speaker 1: What kind of game does it need to be?

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Speaker 4: This is I mean, they're going to have to control

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Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage because those those backs by the Lions,

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Speaker 4: they are a great one two punch, and I know

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Speaker 4: they had success last week against the Dolphins, but prior

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Speaker 4: to that we've seen two hundred yards given up. Cannot

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Speaker 4: go into this game allowing Detroit to be able to

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Speaker 4: run the football because if they do, that opens up

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Speaker 4: the play action game and that's where you give up

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Speaker 4: those chunk plays.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: I just wonder if the Tomlin mentality will allow them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Tomlin likes the force rock fights.

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Speaker 2: We know that, but I don't think Detroit will let

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Speaker 2: themselves get sucked into that in a home game indoors.

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Speaker 4: Do you, No, not at all, and they're going to

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Speaker 4: be aggressive, and that's Dan Campbell's mentality. He wants to

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Speaker 4: push the ball down the field. You know, he goes

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Speaker 4: forward on fourth down pretty much every time. So if

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Speaker 4: that's the case, there is no Hey getting excited because

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Speaker 4: you stop them on third down. You have to play

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Speaker 4: four down football against the Lions because Dan Campbell's mentality

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Speaker 4: is keep the foot on the pedal and he's going

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Speaker 4: to try to turn around and bury you early in

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Speaker 4: ball games.

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Speaker 2: How good is that Detroit offense? Charlie Goff and Gibbs

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Speaker 2: and boy a lot of weapons, right.

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Speaker 4: They are really good and they even better when they

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Speaker 4: play at home. Because that team is built on speed.

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Speaker 4: That's how they develop their team. They know they're playing

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Speaker 4: on turf, there is no weather conditions, and they are

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Speaker 4: looking to push the football down the field, so they

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Speaker 4: are extremely dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Do we underrate Golf?

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Speaker 2: I sometimes find myself thinking he's top five. Sometimes he

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Speaker 2: has a stinker of a game. I think he's mostly consistent.

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Speaker 2: Though where do you put him in the hierarchy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I put him up there towards the top, and people

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Speaker 4: forget that this guy actually led the Rams to the

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Speaker 4: super Bowl, even though they lost in that football game.

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Speaker 4: But so he's you know, technically he's as super Bowl quarterback.

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Speaker 4: But I think ultimately he's trying to help change the

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Speaker 4: mentality of what's going on to Detroit.

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Speaker 3: They believe in him.

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Speaker 4: They made the trade, they actually extended him contract wise,

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Speaker 4: and they truly.

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Speaker 3: Believe in what he's capable of doing.

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Speaker 4: And because we don't really see him often, this guy

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Speaker 4: is tall in stature, he has a great arm, and

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Speaker 4: he can put balls in tight, tight spots.

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Speaker 2: Now, with wat and her Big presumably both out, and

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Speaker 2: they add in Moon from Carolina's practice squad. He played

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Speaker 2: for the Steelers before. Who's going to step up on

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Speaker 2: that edge. Do you think you're enough to blitzmore to

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Speaker 2: get the golf?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna have to, And I think I think

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Speaker 4: it's two sides. I think yes, once you do, but

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Speaker 4: then also you may have to have that been that

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Speaker 4: break mentality like this defense has been doing keeping them

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Speaker 4: out of the end zone. I don't know what that

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Speaker 4: Jeremiah Moon in the manner that they did, you pick

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Speaker 4: him off the practice squad. Now you have to activate

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Speaker 4: him for three games. So I'll let you know, somebody

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Speaker 4: within that rotation is not going to be available. And

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Speaker 4: that's why you brought Moon on here. Not a lot

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Speaker 4: to get excited about. We haven't seen his body of

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Speaker 2: Well, I think an opportunity is there for Jack Sawyer,

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Speaker 2: the rookie. He's going to be matched up against Suwell

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Speaker 2: a lot though, and that's a tough nut to crack.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is.

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Speaker 4: And it's going to be interesting to see really how

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Speaker 4: they used him on special teams, because if you're playing

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Speaker 4: him on both, he's gonna wear down as the game

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Speaker 4: goes on, where sometimes your starters they don't necessarily play

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Speaker 4: special teams. So this is going to be a huge

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Speaker 4: opportunity for Jack Sawyer to prove hey, yes, this is

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Speaker 4: why we drafted you, but also taking that next step

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Speaker 3: So this is a huge opportunity for Sawyer.

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Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson, who was a handful, normally lines up on

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Speaker 2: the speculation is because Hutchison moves around that he'll line

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Speaker 2: up over Dylan Cook a lot.

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Speaker 1: How do you combat that matchup?

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Speaker 2: And I thought Dylan Cook, by the way, did very

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Speaker 2: well against Miami, but this is a horse of a

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Speaker 2: different color.

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Speaker 4: Oh you're right about that, Dylan Cook. He actually played

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Speaker 4: a fantastic game on Monday night. But now as Hutcherson

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Speaker 4: during the first fifteen plays to try to get those

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Speaker 3: That's where you line up with Dow Dartnell Washington there.

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Speaker 4: That's where you maybe get used to back as a

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Speaker 4: that's going to be very critical in the first fifteen

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Speaker 4: an indication of where he lines up, I.

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Speaker 2: Believe Rogers can pass on Detroit and score points on Detroit. Charlie,

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Speaker 2: what about you. I'm mostly worried about him being protected.

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Speaker 2: I mean, now Fraser spanged up, Dylan Cook's playing, I mean,

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Speaker 2: my god, what a war of attrition the NFL has become.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 4: And this is something that really you know with Zach Fraser,

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Speaker 4: pay attention to that as we move closer to game time.

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Speaker 4: But I think where Aaron is at right now, over

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Speaker 4: And when I say that, he has his receivers that

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Speaker 4: he wants playing right now. That's why you're seeing it

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Speaker 4: a healthy scratched with Rouman Wilson, so obviously that wasn't there.

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Speaker 4: And of course Adam Thielen only here for a couple

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Speaker 3: So with that, Aaron Rodgers very familar with Detroit.

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Speaker 4: He understands playing against the Lions, even though this is

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Speaker 4: a different offense that he's in. He's gonna want the

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Speaker 4: the proper checks at the line of scrimmage. He's going

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Speaker 4: to get you in the right place. I'm glad Arthur

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Speaker 2: Aim into that, Charlie. And here's how I've been describing Rogers.

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Speaker 2: I think he's mostly vanilla, but it's a very flavorful

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Speaker 2: cracked the cart and open. He's not doing a ton

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Speaker 2: because he is forty two. But everything he does, especially

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Speaker 3: It really was.

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Speaker 4: And he had everything that the Dolphins was doing. He

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Speaker 4: countered everything else. But again, that's his experience and that's

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Speaker 4: what you want, and sometimes you do have to get.

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Speaker 3: The ball in your playmaker's hand, allow him to run.

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Speaker 4: And I say that even on that second fourth and

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Speaker 4: one opportunity to the left to Kenneth Gainwell, I saw

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Speaker 4: in space to Gainwell to pick up a big game

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Speaker 4: on that fourth down. He's gonna have to continue to

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Speaker 4: do that because if he continues to make those reads,

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Speaker 4: that helps with the time of possession. And we've been

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Speaker 4: harping on this all year, and on Monday night was

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Speaker 4: the first time that they truly were in control of

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Speaker 4: the time and possession, given that defensive rest and allowing

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Speaker 4: them to go make plays in that second half.

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Speaker 3: They have to have that formula here this week.

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Speaker 2: And boy, we saw that with the defense, didn't we.

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Speaker 2: With their burden lesson, I thought they played so much better.

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Speaker 2: And that's even without TJ.

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Speaker 2: I think Cam Hayward's mostly been good all year, Charlie,

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Speaker 2: but I thought that was just an exceptional game by him.

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Speaker 3: For example, Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this guy, he has been playing you know,

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Speaker 4: Stouth throughout the course of the season, and he had

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Speaker 4: a big game on Monday Night. Now what I get

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Speaker 4: excited about it looks like we're going to have Derek

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Speaker 4: Harmon the first round pick something. You know, when he played,

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Speaker 4: he plays, he plays good, but he's missed a lot

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Speaker 4: of time with injury.

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Speaker 3: You hope that there's a fuel to the fire of

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Speaker 3: this game because he is going home. He is from Detroit.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's gonna have a lot of family members

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Speaker 4: that are going to be in this game rooting for

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Speaker 4: the hometown team, are now playing against the hometown team.

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Speaker 3: So this is going to be a big game for him.

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Speaker 4: So I'm looking for that one two ta combo between

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Speaker 4: Cam and Dereck Harmon to show up in a big way.

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Speaker 2: You know what I would say right before the game

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Speaker 2: to him, Charlie, I'd say, gee, I hope your family

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Speaker 2: doesn't see it suck.

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Speaker 4: Trust me, there are little tip is that you throw

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Speaker 4: out there throughout the course of the week, and that

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Speaker 4: is the caveat right there. Don't embarrass the family name

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Speaker 4: when you are now taking the field out there, and

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Speaker 4: hopefully that gets in going Charlie, here's.

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Speaker 2: Kind of an odd question, but I think it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Are the Steelers trending upward in your mind? Or have

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Speaker 2: they just won a couple games in the row, because

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Speaker 2: those aren't necessarily the same thing.

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Speaker 5: Are they?

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Speaker 4: No, they're not. And I think they're trending in the

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Speaker 4: right direction, and mostly because of that offensive line up front.

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Speaker 4: They have been starting to play solid. But now when

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Speaker 4: you add the injuries there, you know, I know we

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Speaker 4: didn't you know, we talked about to tackle a lot

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Speaker 4: over the last couple of weeks. But is Zach Frazier

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Speaker 4: and you have Isaac say Malu, those two had been

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Speaker 4: the brains of that offensive line, and now with say

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Speaker 4: Malu banged up, what does that tricep look like?

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Speaker 3: So you know, with a.

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Speaker 4: Peck and a tricep for an offensive lineman, that is

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Speaker 2: Charlie, here's what I've been saying all week. I think

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Speaker 2: two wins and that's good, but they're still eight and six.

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Speaker 2: I want them to win out. I see the remaining

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Speaker 5: Do that.

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Speaker 2: If they do that, I would really think they'd win

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Speaker 4: That's the trend that you want, and that gets us

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Speaker 3: The potential could be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: So if you start to get hot at the right time,

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Speaker 4: This is what's going to get everybody excited. So they

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Speaker 2: Who do you like in that Ravens New England game, Charlie,

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Speaker 2: because that has great bearing on understandings and on the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think the Ravens are going to figure out a

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Speaker 4: of taste of their own medicine. By your controling that

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Speaker 4: these sneaky wins that are here. I know they have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta be honest, Charlie. Part of me, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see the Steelers wrap it up before

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Speaker 2: that Week eighteen game, but there'd be something really exciting

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Speaker 2: about Ravens at Pittsburgh with the division title up for grabs, wasn't.

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Speaker 4: There, And that's what the NFL schedule makers want. Selfishly

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Speaker 3: That's going to be a timetime game.

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Speaker 4: I just don't want that because that means I finished

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Speaker 3: So let's get their Steelers.

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Speaker 4: To wrap this up prior to so that Sunday game

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Speaker 2: Charlie, from your lips to God's ears. Tom Offerman, my producer,

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Speaker 2: he works with you guys, and it's just that even

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Speaker 2: and you don't get home to win. My god, you're right,

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Speaker 2: you have put things in proper perspective. My friend, who

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Speaker 2: you know, what's funny? I feel like the Steelers are

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Speaker 2: I feel bad saying that. I think they're more likely

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think it's gonna be a hagh

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Speaker 4: put up a lot of points. To me selfishly, I

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Speaker 4: think the Steelers have to put up at least thirty

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Speaker 3: Are they capable of doing it? It's possible.

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Speaker 4: Why because they score thirty three points against it yet,

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Speaker 4: so we've seen them put up thirty points. Now they

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Speaker 4: just have to go up here and play winning football.

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Speaker 4: Don't beat themselves. We know the formula for this team.

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Speaker 4: They have to create turnovers, make Jeric goff uncomfortable, get

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Speaker 4: that's for sure. But ultimately, when you look at this

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Speaker 4: game six and a half point underdog, that may be

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Speaker 4: the most disrespectful thing that these odd makers can do

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Speaker 4: for you, because that's almost equivalent to a twenty one

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Speaker 4: point spread in college. Hopefully these Steelers can motivate, get motivated,

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Speaker 2: Charlie, am I wrong when I think I think we'll

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Speaker 2: know who's gonna win after one quarter? That the game

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Speaker 2: will go in a direction that either really favors Pittsburger

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Speaker 2: doesn't it does.

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Speaker 4: It can be a twenty one to three first quarter,

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Speaker 4: or it can be a you know, ten to nine

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Speaker 4: just have to keep it close and they can't allow

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Speaker 4: it to get out of.

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Speaker 3: Control because that team is very explosive.

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Speaker 4: So this is something to your point, first quarter, we'll

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Speaker 4: know exactly what direction we're going, Charlie.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff, Great stuff with the podcast with Trey. Great

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Speaker 2: stuff on the postgame show. We'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: That's the great Charlie Batch. Nobody better than him to

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Speaker 2: talk football. You can hear him on the Steelers Audio

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Speaker 2: Network for the post game show, him and Pursued.

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Speaker 1: It's really good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Okay, up next calls on the fifteens, Get your calls

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Speaker 2: in now, we've got the loud trade with the Pirates

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Speaker 1: The pen was being horrible, terrible last night in Ottawa.

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Speaker 2: And of course Steelers and Lions, and I do think

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Speaker 2: it's a winnable game, and I do think we'll know

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Speaker 2: in the first fifteen minutes one o five.

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Speaker 1: Nine the X Ho ho ho. It's that Tommy Yeurigan,

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Speaker 1: isn't it?

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Speaker 5: Yes, Mark Madden, Yeah, Park, welcome show.

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Speaker 2: Well if I won you overpitating Dusty Road, Youmican dream,

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Speaker 2: so be it baby.

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Speaker 6: The exit one oh five nine, double im on the X.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Charlie Batch, who is always awesome, right on

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Speaker 2: time for calls on the fifteens. Get a call in

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Speaker 2: eight three to three four one two WXDX.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Greg. Greg. You're all with Mark?

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Speaker 5: Hey, double am.

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Speaker 7: I just going to add on to that Steelers comment

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Speaker 7: about the next three games, including the matchup against the Lines.

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Speaker 7: I think that the next three games are a must

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Speaker 7: win for the Pittsburgh Steelers, including Tomlin as he's normally

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Speaker 7: not good.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, it's not must win for Tom and he's

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Speaker 2: not gonna lose his job. I mean, what do you

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Speaker 2: mean by must win? If they make the playoffs. They

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Speaker 2: make the playoffs, But I'm talking about the show. They're

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Speaker 2: a serious contender. You got to win the next three

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Speaker 2: games and finish eleven and six. That's what series contenders do.

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Speaker 2: They improve and get hot at the right time. Now,

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Speaker 2: do I think it's gonna happen. No, Because old teams

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Speaker 2: and this is a very old team.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They they don't get better as the season goes on.

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Speaker 2: They just get older.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I one hundred percent agree. I was just more

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Speaker 7: less talking about if he was to ever lose any

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Speaker 7: moving forward a wild card game matchup, he is not

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Speaker 7: an end for the season. The Steelers obviously thank you.

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Speaker 5: For the call.

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Speaker 2: I think even if they win out, they are probably

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Speaker 2: gonna lose the wild card game.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think they're that good.

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Speaker 2: But if they if they win five in a row

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Speaker 1: Uh thank you.

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Speaker 2: Recall, by the way, my projected hero for the Steelers

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Speaker 2: on Sunday, if they do win at Detroit is the

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Speaker 2: Watt and probably Herbie got There was a photo of

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Speaker 1: Oh TJ looks okay, that's a good sign.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing that the Steelers stab their highest paid player

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Speaker 8: What to me? Now?

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Speaker 2: He's now over five hundred on the ear and convincently

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Speaker 8: Whoa stop, time time out?

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Speaker 5: Can I at least woke?

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Speaker 8: Is what you shut up?

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Speaker 2: Here is our football prognosticator going three and two last week.

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Speaker 8: Mister Friday Afternoon, Okay, you're spreading misinformation, disinformation. That's a

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Speaker 8: breaching contract. I was five and o last week. Okay,

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Speaker 8: the play the tapes, look at the records. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 8: here's your woe. What you try to do is sneer me.

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Speaker 1: Four and one.

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Speaker 8: No, it's five and oh undefeated because I haven't lost

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Speaker 8: the game in two weeks. And what you're trying to

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Speaker 8: do is you're trying to minimize this this uh, this

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Speaker 8: and you're you're breaching your contract. So I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not breaching my contract for one thing.

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Speaker 2: I We've studied the contract very carefully and everything is

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Speaker 1: So stop with that.

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Speaker 8: The people. The people know I went five and oh

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Speaker 8: last week. Okay, so let's you know, let's just go

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Speaker 8: forward with that. You're your your Maine mistake. Can you

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Speaker 8: miss your Maine mistake?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 1: Okay, what do you want for the Steeler game?

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Speaker 8: We're gonna take the Steelers plus seven. They're not gonna win, okay,

447
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Speaker 8: because Detroit under a U game Campbell is like sixteen

448
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Speaker 8: to one after a loss through great great trends there.

449
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Speaker 8: But Avanon Rodgers is very familiar with that that are

450
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Speaker 8: that building. He's played well in Detroit. The Steelers, I

451
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Speaker 8: don't think, because they're like during the Driver's scene now

452
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Speaker 8: and Baltimore has a game against New England on Sunday night,

453
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Speaker 8: and the Steelers get Cleveland next week. So I think

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Speaker 8: the Steelers, I think they may be able to I

455
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Speaker 8: nip it in the bud. They're gonna bring effort, They're

456
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Speaker 8: gonna keep it close Detroit at a very leaky defense,

457
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Speaker 8: and Aaron Rodgers is playing pretty well. You know you

458
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Speaker 8: might have to like you crowing Aeron Rodgers. You are

459
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Speaker 8: very adamant and vocal. You're not like Rogers is a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: That's just not true. That's just not true. You're the

461
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Speaker 2: one who hates the Steelers. You hate the Steelers. You

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Speaker 2: pick against them all the time. Now you're trying to

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Speaker 2: get back to the audience good side. You are pushing

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Speaker 2: a scoundrel.

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Speaker 8: No, no, no, you know what you are. You're deplorable

466
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Speaker 8: and in this, in this it's like did you.

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Speaker 1: You I am not.

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Speaker 2: I talked to hr they said it's okay, Okay, that's fine. Okay,

469
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Speaker 2: so the Steelers plus seven, what is your lock of

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Speaker 2: the week.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna take the Raiders plus fourteen. Okay, there there

472
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Speaker 8: are charge I don't know why, but for some reason

473
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Speaker 8: they were terrible with Kenny Picken.

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Speaker 1: He was, uh yeah, I'm pretty sure I know why.

475
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Speaker 8: Okay, I thought he was, like, you know, I thought

476
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Speaker 8: he might have been the best quarterback in league coming

477
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Speaker 8: out of college. Hasn't maybe conspired against him, you know,

478
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Speaker 8: like he may not have.

479
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Speaker 2: No Sanders is the conspiracy victim.

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Speaker 8: Okay, who, you're absoutely right about that, but uh, Houston's

481
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Speaker 8: you know, they're out, their defense is tremendous to the

482
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Speaker 8: best team in the league. They're uh, their offense is

483
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Speaker 8: getting better. But you're you're laying fourteen points in a

484
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Speaker 8: very flat spot. And this this line is inflated because

485
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Speaker 8: the Raiders been the bad but Gino is coming back

486
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Speaker 8: as quarterback. He's cause you know, fourteen points is late

487
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Speaker 8: in the season when you got like the Chargers up

488
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Speaker 8: next and you're in the playoff one. But you're comfortable

489
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Speaker 8: and like, you can't on a game or lose position.

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Speaker 8: The game the matters next week is the game against

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Speaker 8: sin against the Chargers. Just take the fourteen here, there's like,

492
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Speaker 8: there's good trends on him. I'm getting this many points

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Speaker 8: late in the season. So let's let's just take the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: That's a bat, mister, this is expert analysis. I can

495
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Speaker 2: see why you went four and one last week. You're

496
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Speaker 2: really on top of your game.

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Speaker 8: Ohs five and oh last week? Okay, and I went

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Speaker 8: ken and oh the week before. I'm on a fifteen

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Speaker 8: to oh run. That's no, it's just not impossible.

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Speaker 1: I won ten and oh, how did you do that?

501
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Speaker 8: Because you because we had the five pointer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what now it's time to do the daily doubles.

503
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Speaker 8: This is you know, I've been going back and forth

504
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Speaker 8: on two games and it's a I'm gonna want I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna go with Miam excuseing Cincinnati lane four at Miami.

506
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Speaker 8: Miami was actually in the playoff hint on the outskirts

507
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Speaker 8: of it, but they had a chance going into last week. Uh,

508
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Speaker 8: the Steelers buried them in the cold too. Is now

509
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Speaker 8: to give quarterback he's like the thirtieth rae quarterback in

510
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Speaker 8: the league, but they're going to quinn Ewers who who's

511
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Speaker 8: claimed the famous He like he like outplayed arch Manning

512
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Speaker 8: for the starting job of Texas. He's not good. I

513
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 8: think you know he saw that. You saw like late

514
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Speaker 8: in the game last week where McDaniel was like there

515
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Speaker 8: were they were in too. They've come back a little

516
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Speaker 8: bit in the game and they were within two scores

517
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Speaker 8: and there was no urgency at the end of the game,

518
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Speaker 8: like with two minutes left. They weren't playing hurry up offense.

519
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Speaker 8: Who's steering his pad and is freezing cold. Everybody's quitting

520
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 8: my team. This is gonna be a late they're going

521
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Speaker 8: to laying down. This game is gonna be a And

522
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Speaker 8: then Burrows got shut out last week and he's like

523
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Speaker 8: one of those highest paid players in the league, and

524
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Speaker 8: want to bet the courts in the league since there

525
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Speaker 8: isn't gonna be effort this week, you know, for no

526
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Speaker 8: reason other than they got shut out last week. But

527
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Speaker 8: Miami's terrible. It's gonna be good weather eighty degrees.

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Speaker 1: What is your pick?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 2: You went from making two good explanations for the prior picks.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea who you're picking here.

532
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Speaker 8: Cincinnati mine four.

533
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati minus four. So let's go over the picks.

534
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Speaker 2: Take the Steelers plus seven, Take Las Vegas plus fourteen

535
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Speaker 2: for the lock. Take Cincinnati minus four for the daily double.

536
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Speaker 2: And that was up to me to pick the the

537
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Speaker 2: uh the super collider, and I'm going to pick the

538
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Speaker 2: Steelers game. Steelers plus seven is the super collide.

539
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Speaker 8: What a shot?

540
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Speaker 5: What do you mean?

541
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Speaker 8: What a shot? You know, well, make all these dicks,

542
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 8: zero doubt and uh and and like you constantly just

543
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 8: just attack the Steelers. Gave me because you think I

544
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 8: hate the Steelers. You do hate se No, you make

545
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Speaker 8: it the super Collider every week. You hate the Steelers,

546
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Speaker 8: that's why I okay, well, why would I pick the

547
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Speaker 8: Steelers if I hate the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: It's that reverse trend type of thing. It's the hidden

549
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Speaker 2: vigor ish. You pick them to win, so you could say,

550
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Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. They should have won, but

551
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Speaker 2: they lost.

552
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Speaker 8: Oh so what you do so I can blame them

553
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Speaker 8: for my loss because I hate them so much as

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Speaker 8: I'm trying to say, yes, exactly right, Okay, well that's

555
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Speaker 8: not true. It's a toll fabrication on your part.

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Speaker 1: No, it is true.

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Speaker 8: It's not true. You're just the tot fabrication of your

558
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Speaker 8: part is too, is too. The evidence is zero, futable

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Speaker 8: and incontrovertible. It is outstanding. Okay, I do not hate

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Speaker 8: the Steelers. Okay, I talk to your fans absolutely, that's

561
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Speaker 8: nothing to say.

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Speaker 1: Well, well none are calling, which is no surprise because you.

563
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Speaker 8: Know you never you never you never prehmp this program,

564
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Speaker 8: say hey we got mister freddy k next you stip well,

565
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Speaker 8: you never, like you don't like promote before I.

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Speaker 9: Just did right now.

567
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Speaker 8: Four already on before I come on. You would think

568
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Speaker 8: you would say, like, hey, mister Friday is fifteen to

569
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Speaker 8: oh the past two weeks. If you want to talk

570
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Speaker 8: to him, here's the number. And then like you go

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Speaker 8: to commercial and come back and like there's a bunch

572
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Speaker 8: of people like to talk to you, like you'll come

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Speaker 8: coming up.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were more like ten and five.

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Speaker 8: No, fifteen to oh the tates don't lie unless your

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Speaker 8: doctor the dates is your doctor the dates.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, if you like to talk to mister Fred, well, no,

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Speaker 2: it's too late in the segment. If you'd like to

579
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Speaker 2: ask Mark anything, talk to me. My fans can talk

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Speaker 2: to me though three four one two w XDX style

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Speaker 2: right now eight three three four one two ninety nine

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Speaker 2: thirty nine, or leave a talk back on the microphone

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Speaker 2: icon at the iHeartMedia app.

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Speaker 8: Okay, well, what you should be doing is asking ask

585
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Speaker 8: Mark when you call up, why can't I talk to

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Speaker 8: my fani Your.

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Speaker 1: Fans aren't calling.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, we have to get we have

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Speaker 2: to get rid of you because we have a very

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Speaker 2: special guest.

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Speaker 8: You're I'm you know, and you're trying to shadow bad

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Speaker 8: me and no, no.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell you who the

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Speaker 2: guest is at the top of the hour and tell

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Speaker 2: me you wouldn't rather hear him talk than you. It's

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Speaker 2: the original, the one and only e c W World

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Speaker 2: Heavyweight Champion, the franchise Shane Douglas.

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Speaker 8: Oh, that's fantastic. It's an honor to be a to preempt.

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Speaker 1: Uh to Uh, it's not preempt Would you get a dictionary?

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Speaker 8: Excuse me to to to be the segment before Shane Douglas.

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Speaker 2: You're not the segment before your two segments before. You're

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Speaker 2: lucky you're on the show at all.

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Speaker 8: But I would love I would love to stay on

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Speaker 8: here if I could, and we can have a roundtable

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Speaker 8: discussion on the evolution of the franchise character.

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Speaker 2: No, that's out of the question. Uh, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a chance, though. I have a

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Speaker 2: segment coming up mess called ask Mark Anything, and my

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Speaker 2: fans call up and they can ask me anything. You're

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Speaker 2: obviously a big fan of mine. What would you like

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Speaker 2: to ask me? You can ask me anything?

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Speaker 8: Okay, why can't I talk to my fans?

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Speaker 2: One oh five ninety X this hour, That Mark Madden

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Speaker 2: Show is brought to you by by Night.

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Speaker 5: Probably served a tequila cowboy on a smart mad.

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Speaker 2: How you do good mace is always a component of

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Speaker 2: any nice day.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for making my day?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what you said the ex at one O five nine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get some calls in eight three, three, four,

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Speaker 2: one two ninety nine thirty nine.

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Speaker 1: Ask Mark anything, or you could leave a talk back

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Speaker 1: via the microphone icon at the iHeartMedia app.

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Speaker 2: Just to recap how I feel about this Steelers game

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Speaker 2: on Sunday. Don't forget I'll be watching the game at

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Speaker 2: Celebrations in Imperial that's right on Steubenville Pike. I think

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Speaker 2: Detroit's probably gonna kill the Steelers because I don't think

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Speaker 2: the Steelers will slow down that offense. I think Tomlin's

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Speaker 2: too dumb to come out and just admit that the

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Speaker 2: defense can't try to outscore the lines, which I think

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Speaker 2: they can if Rodgers keeps playing like he did the

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. I also think Detroit has more

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Speaker 2: to lose in this game than the Steelers. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how Detroit's lost six games, and I don't know

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Speaker 2: how the Steelers have won eight. To me, it's nutty,

636
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Speaker 2: but also won't surprise me if the Steelers eked out

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Speaker 2: a close win. I think the Steelers either get killed

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Speaker 2: or they eke out a close win. We've been talking

639
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Speaker 2: a lot about the Penguins as well. That game last night,

640
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: very very disappointing. Penguins got killed four or nil at Ottawa.

641
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Speaker 2: That's seven losses in a row and Twitter is outraised.

642
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Speaker 2: But once Mario comes back to run things, everything will

643
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Speaker 2: straighten out. Except he's not. Hey, if you want the truth,

644
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Speaker 2: the good start was fool's gold. We overreacted. I did

645
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Speaker 2: two and this is just what the team is, which

646
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: is not very good, and there's nobody to blame. This

647
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: is what rebuilding looks like, and it's not easy, even

648
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: more so when you have to keep the core three together.

649
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Speaker 2: Just because you have to keep the core three together,

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Speaker 2: Chill loves is horrible, but they got shut out.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I could go into detail. It's a stink sandwich.

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Speaker 2: What I hate most is that they're getting away from

653
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Speaker 2: emphasizing the young guys and turning the team back over

654
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Speaker 2: to a bunch of bummy old veterans, not the Big three.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking the.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Hayeses and the Nola Chari's and I don't even

657
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Speaker 2: know why. Danton Frigginheinen's on the team at all anymore.

658
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 2: None of it exactly ideal for the Dad's trip. And

659
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: nobody played good. Literally nobody not even see it. No points,

660
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: needless to say, in a four nail shutout and still

661
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: two points behind Mario and on to Montreal on Saturday.

662
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: Can watch the game with me at Marino's American Eater

663
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: in Greensburg because they love me in Westmoreland County. After

664
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: the game against Edmonton in the game last night, blowing

665
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: a lead in the third period, it seems like the

666
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: good old days.

667
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: Let's go to Eric eric Aaskmark anything.

668
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 9: Hey, double m kind of a two pronger here. Were

669
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 9: you a fan of the Leslie Nielsen Naked Guns? And

670
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 9: did you see the Liam Neeson remake?

671
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: I saw part of the Liam Neeson one on cable.

672
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: I thought it was pretty good. I wasn't a big

673
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: fan of the Leslie Nielson ones. I thought they were

674
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: too over the top. I understand why people like them.

675
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: I just like a little more subtlety and satire in

676
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: my comedy.

677
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 9: Gotcha, what do you think of Pam Anderson with no makeup?

678
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 9: I think she's still stuck even at fifty.

679
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: Seven, Absolutely stunning and especially with no makeup.

680
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's very real.

681
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: Thank you, Virgina, Thank you. Let's go to a talkback, Mark.

682
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 4: I was wondering how you and mister Friday Afternoon met,

683
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 4: and I also wanted to know what his current job

684
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 4: is right now?

685
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 8: Thanks?

686
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: Uh we met on a Friday afternoon, which is kind

687
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: of ironic. And his current job besides doing this, I

688
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: think he mops the floors in a peep show booth

689
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas.

690
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: I think that's what I remember.

691
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 8: Let's go to a talkback, Hey, Mark, who's your favorite

692
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 8: local traffic reporter on the.

693
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 5: X Mine is Bonnie Diver.

694
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 8: She's been down to it long in the midnight.

695
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: See oh, what's becoming of me? Look out?

696
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's obviously the the governor when it comes to

697
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: traffic reporters.

698
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: Best ever, let's go to a talkback.

699
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 6: Hey, Mark, I think your impressions are underrated.

700
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: So what do you think your best celebrity impression is?

701
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

702
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I wish you would call the show instead

703
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: of leaving that. I don't think of myself as somebody

704
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 2: who impersonates.

705
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: You know what.

706
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: I do kind of get a kickout of well, my

707
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: I mean my David Coverdale is okay, but it's not

708
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: an indy as good as Red Beaches, So I don't know.

709
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: I never thought of myself as being good at that.

710
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: Let's go to Jackson Newcastle. Jackshown with double M doublem.

711
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 8: What up, hey?

712
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 10: Just a curiosity question. How would you describe any color

713
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 10: on the planet to someone who has never seen before,

714
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 10: lying since birth?

715
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 8: How would you do it?

716
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. Why would there be a need to do that?

717
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 5: I don't know.

718
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 10: We want to deski the beautiful green golf course to

719
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 10: a blind guy?

720
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 8: How would you?

721
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 10: I want to hear how the super genius would do it?

722
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 8: Or how beautiful the.

723
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 5: Sky looks today?

724
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 2: It would literally be impossible to do because the person

725
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: who was well, I wouldn't. I wouldn't try, I wouldn't bother,

726
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: I wouldn't get myself frustrated because there was no logical

727
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: way to do it, and the super Genius deals in logic. Next,

728
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 2: he got the franchise Saint Douglas, former ECW World Heavyweight Champion.

729
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 2: He's got an event going on the hardcore holiday Happy

730
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: Hour tomorrow night, six to eight pm at Helltown on

731
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: the Strip, one O five to nine. It's time not

732
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: to Welcome to the show. He is the first and

733
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: forever ECW World Heavyweight Champion from Beaver Connie. Got a

734
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff going on in Pittsburgh this weekend. He

735
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: is the franchise Shane Douglas. Shane, we'll get to your

736
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: events in just a little bit. But why isn't there

737
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: an R rated promotion now? Like ECW in its big era,

738
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: All that style of wrestlings died down, hasn't it?

739
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, great question. You know, there's lots of people love vanilla,

740
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 5: and there's a lot more that I think love chocolate,

741
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 5: and there's probably a few that love white cherry. Go figure. Uh,

742
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 5: but they have the choice to go out and buy

743
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 5: what they want. For some reason, our industry has decided

744
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 5: we're gonna give either all vanilla, all chocolate, or all

745
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 5: white cherry. And they've excluded a world of people. It

746
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 5: used to be when you and I were working together

747
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 5: in WSW and the three companies in business, there was

748
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 5: an average weekly viewership in America alone of forty eight

749
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 5: to fifty two million people tuning into put wrestling. Now

750
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 5: two three four million, let's double that and say six

751
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 5: give him a real benefit. Uh, that's still I don't

752
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 5: know about you. If I'm selling Hamburgers, I want to

753
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 5: sell the fifty two million people, not six or three years.

754
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: Oh, no question. But everybody lies about the ratings. They

755
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: try to tie it into streaming, into YouTube, and it's

756
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: just not the same. The advertisers certainly don't think it's

757
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: the same correct. And I don't know why there's no

758
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: adult themes and really, Shane, there's no stories either.

759
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: There's just matches.

760
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: It seems like so much of it is randomly put

761
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: together on the day.

762
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 5: Aymen, Well, here's another way to blow your mind. One

763
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 5: of the most transformational television shows in wrestling history. All

764
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 5: the Family would never make air today. Well, right, so

765
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 5: you know you can't go to that. You and me

766
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 5: were on the same page. I agree with everything is

767
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 5: hit at the top there, but I also agree with

768
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 5: what you're saying about wrestling. I'm one of those guys

769
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 5: that wants to push the envelope of the storytelling and

770
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 5: I don't want to be cartoonized. I'm a little bit

771
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 5: too old for that. I love the sport of professional

772
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 5: wrestling and so please somebody give it back to us.

773
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's funny too, because ECW got copied by everybody,

774
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: you know, the attitude era in WW and then it

775
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: all just disappeared.

776
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: And like I said, now there's no stories, there's no

777
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: adult themes. They're just matches.

778
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: And the promotion that's disappointed me the most is AEW

779
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: because they had the money with Tony Kahan to go

780
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: in a different direction, maybe in the direction that you

781
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: and I would like, but whatever they've chosen is just

782
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: WWE lighte with recycling guys. I mean, I had hoped

783
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: they would stick with guys like Guavara and now a

784
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: kid like Ace Austin is their stars MJF guys who

785
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: hadn't been overexposed. But I mean, they just brought back

786
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys to TV who didn't need to

787
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: be on TV no more.

788
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 5: Well, I don't watch it enough to like go through

789
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 5: piece by piece like that, but I'll say this, when

790
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 5: they started, I'll keep in mind, we had one of

791
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 5: these a decade ago, Dixie Carter at the time, spent

792
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 5: seven hundred and sixty eight. They're about million dollars, millions

793
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 5: of dollars and had nothing to show for it. Mike

794
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 5: with TNA, Yeah, Yeah, with TNA. Tony Kahn has gone

795
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 5: over the billion dollar mark and their ratings two weeks

796
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 5: agoing over. I checked the last time three hundred and

797
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 5: ninety six thousand. So unless they got fifty million streaming

798
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 5: and not being registered somewhere, I'd say Daddy might want

799
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 5: to get his CTAs involved here fairly soon.

800
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: No question.

801
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: We're not going to Shane Douglas the franchise here on

802
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: one oh five nine. The next Shane, You've got a

803
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: couple events going on in Pittsburgh. Saturday and Sunday You're

804
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: at Wrestle VERSU at the David Allard's Convention Center. And

805
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: then your thing is Saturday night, Tomorrow night, six to

806
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: eight pm. You got the hardcore Holiday Happy Hour at

807
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: hell Town in the Strip, and that's going to feature

808
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: you and our buddy Big Ned and of course the

809
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 2: Queen of Extreme, your old sidekick, Francine.

810
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: What are you going to have going on there?

811
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 5: Oh, dude? Like, what a big deal of this is

812
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 5: the first of all, Big Ned, the seven foot actor

813
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 5: from How I Met Your Mother, he's been out swepting man.

814
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 5: He's been getting like the old days with the wrestling

815
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 5: Street Team. He's been doing that. So we're having a

816
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 5: hardcore happy Hour at hell Tom Brewing, no covers cards,

817
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 5: the Queen of Extreme. By the way, Mark, That'll be

818
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 5: the first time in over twenty years that Francine and

819
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 5: I have appeared here in Pittsburgh, and over a decade

820
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 5: for me making any major appearance in Pittsburgh. So we're

821
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 5: looking to get a lot of fans out. Like I said,

822
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 5: no covert chards. We have I should say, Big Ned

823
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 5: has a ton of games figured out, autographs and pictures.

824
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a great, great night. What we're looking

825
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 5: to do is starting to annual holiday party that Pittsburgh

826
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 5: is going to come out and support and the quint

827
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 5: of Extreme then, you know, not too bad on the eyeballs.

828
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 5: You know, she's never never was. Yeah, and back in

829
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 5: the day, you know, Paul Aman said, come on, somebody's

830
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 5: gonna work with Francine, and so I said, I'll take

831
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 5: a bullet for the boys.

832
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they they had to beg you to do it.

833
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: I gotta cut you off there.

834
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: That's tomorrow night, six to eight at at Hell Time

835
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: Strip District tap Room.

836
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: That's the hardcore holiday happy hour.

837
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: Shane, here's a cliched question, but what wrestler today preferably

838
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: a younger guy. Do you like I mean, I know

839
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: you're like me. You don't watch it nearly as extensive

840
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: we used to. But somebody got to jump to mind.

841
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: Oh well, MJF.

842
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 5: You mentioned earlier Dolph Ziggler another I've been talking about

843
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 5: this guy for twenty years and I cannot figure out

844
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 5: who he's got heat with. Because he's a talented guy,

845
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 5: he gets pushed for a month and shoved down the

846
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 5: list for three or four months. Remember Steve Bustin's to say,

847
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 5: if Vince wants you over, he'll trump a racketeer, and

848
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 5: I don't think they've done that with Dolph. MJF. I'm

849
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 5: gonna hear from you. Why do you think MJF is

850
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 5: so over?

851
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: Well.

852
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:32,959
Speaker 1: I think he's a great heel.

853
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 2: I think he's very much in the tradition of Roddy Piper,

854
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: who was his idol growing up, and he cuts great promos.

855
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: But I think he still needs a bit of an editor.

856
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 2: I think he is allowed to say everything he wants

857
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: in ae W and I think he's really good, but

858
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: still kind of raw in that regard.

859
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 5: I think he needs steered a bit. What do you think, Yeah,

860
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 5: I would agree with that. I would have turned it deffinitely,

861
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 5: but the exact same definition. He's just playing an old

862
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 5: school heel. What perplexes me is when you're a young

863
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 5: guy in the rest and addressing him. Trust God was

864
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 5: once when you see somebody getting you know, explosives response

865
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 5: out there, you start to pay attention to go, what's

866
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 5: he doing that? I'm not? What's he doing that?

867
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 3: I'm not?

868
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 5: And I don't know if anybody's doing that there. I agree,

869
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 5: I think that Tony Kahn if and I've never met

870
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 5: the guy, I just want to say, like what I'm

871
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 5: viewing it like you scantly watching h I think he

872
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 5: lets the guys just do whatever they want to do.

873
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 6: Uh.

874
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 5: And I base that off the things I've seen online

875
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 5: and things I've heard from different people. You know sometimes

876
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 5: and you know this, in wrestling, we're all crazy, right,

877
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 5: So you can't let the inmates run that asylum where

878
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 5: you'll end up with inmate running the crazy asylum.

879
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

880
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: But the problem there is Shane And I've met Tony

881
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 2: a number of times.

882
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: He's a good guy.

883
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: I think he actually has a decent wrestling mind. He

884
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: just needs steered himself. But but but the problem is

885
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: he's an easy paycheck and nobody wants to tell that

886
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: emperor he has no clothes.

887
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 5: Well that's yeah. I remember when Vince was on Steve

888
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 5: Austin's podcast several years ago and he said, everybody in

889
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 5: the dressing rooms to reach for the golden ring. And Steve,

890
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 5: so what do they miss it is when they said

891
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 5: reach for the golden ring. So talk about a confusing

892
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 5: message to everybody in the locker room.

893
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 8: Uh.

894
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a shame if that's the case, because you know,

895
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 5: like you said, they've got seemingly the few times I've

896
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 5: been a bit to the I think four or five

897
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 5: of their events, they seem to have the enthusiasm, they

898
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 5: seem to have clearly the money, which is the big thing.

899
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 5: As you know. Uh, they certainly have talent in that

900
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 5: dressing room. But when you hear talent, certain talent saying

901
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 5: a few years ago, there's we're not listening to legends

902
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 5: anymore because there's nothing they can teach us. I would

903
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 5: beg to differm. My god, if I hadn't had dominic

904
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 5: In Bruno and pez Watt, the litany of guys I had,

905
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 5: Ricky Steve wouldn't be talking to me. Yeah, you wouldn't

906
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 5: be talking to me right now, you'd be talking to

907
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 5: somebody else. It's invaluable what you learn from those guys.

908
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: And finally, Shane, here's the question.

909
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: Everybody's talking about seeing a wrestled his last match, but

910
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: I don't believe for a second his last match.

911
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: But let's assume it was. Would you have had him

912
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: tap the gunther?

913
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 5: No? Not not as well. I you know, I understand

914
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 5: why somebody like John would want to do it.

915
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 2: I might have had him lose, but I'm not sure

916
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: it would have done it exactly that convincingly.

917
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, consideringly that they made the big bill that

918
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 5: he'd never done in his career. But you can see how,

919
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 5: you know, when Brock was wrestling the Undertaker, how those

920
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 5: of us in our business that want to give back

921
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 5: will try to do something like that. So I don't

922
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 5: fault John for trying and full his closer. I didn't

923
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 5: watch it, my sons had told me about it. I

924
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 5: wouldn't have done it that way, at least in the

925
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 5: in the sense that they did it. It would have

926
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 5: required a different build up, in a different tack when

927
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 5: they had him at Wrestlemann. He has the heel and

928
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 5: then flipping, you know, like sort of mismatching, going back

929
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 5: and forth. You know, it sort of loses its edge.

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00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 5: I think as soon as soon.

931
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Speaker 1: As the Rock got uninvolved.

932
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: No offense to John, who I like and I think

933
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: is had you know, a top ten fifteen career of

934
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: all time, it kind of lost its team. Shame again.

935
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Speaker 2: Thank you for taking the time. Can't wait for the

936
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Speaker 2: Hilltime thing tomorrow night. We'll recap everything in a second,

937
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: but good.

938
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Speaker 5: Job, beautifull appreciate man. We'll see you there tomorrow.

939
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Speaker 2: That is Shane Douglas hardcore Holiday happy Hour at Helltime

940
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 2: Strip District tap Room tomorrow night, six to eight. Shane

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Speaker 2: the Queen of Extreme Francine and Big Ned