Speaker 1: All right, it's the average American and for the great American.
Speaker 1: On this Martin Luther King Junior Day, and a day
Speaker 1: of great note, I think we should pause and just
Speaker 1: reflect on that, just for a moment. Those of us
Speaker 1: who were children of the sixties understand what a great
Speaker 1: man this man was and how his life was cut
Speaker 1: down far too short. A great man of peace, great
Speaker 1: man of vision, somebody that not only did so much
Speaker 1: for his own race, but cut across racial lines and
Speaker 1: understood that you get nowhere by yelling and screaming, but
Speaker 1: you get everywhere by talking and acting and leading, and
Speaker 1: so on this day, I think of some of the
Speaker 1: great moments that he had in his life, and wonder
Speaker 1: about the great moments he could have had had his
Speaker 1: life not be cut short. So today is Martin Luther
Speaker 1: King Junior Day. It is a day that is resplendent,
Speaker 1: with a lot of other things going on that we
Speaker 1: will get to between now and three o'clock. And we
Speaker 1: are one day away from the one year anniversary of
Speaker 1: Trump two point zero. Trump two point zero. Now, a
Speaker 1: lot of people, I think, were expecting Trump to be
Speaker 1: different in his demeanor, and he is somewhat, but He's
Speaker 1: still not lovable and huggable. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people wanted what Trump promised to do and what he's
Speaker 1: carrying out, but maybe they didn't want it done as
Speaker 1: clumsily as what Trump does. But Trump is a disruptor,
Speaker 1: He's a changer, and the next three years will go
Speaker 1: a long way and determining whether or not these changes
Speaker 1: that he campaigned on and he's starting to deliver on,
Speaker 1: if these changes will be things that have a short
Speaker 1: shelf life or something that might just be gone with
Speaker 1: the wind if Trump and the GOP is run out
Speaker 1: of office in twenty twenty eight. Now, somebody that understands
Speaker 1: all of this, I don't explain any of this is
Speaker 1: standing by to join us right now. He is flashing
Speaker 1: euphemistically speaking online one And it's a great day when
Speaker 1: we could get political analysts and a man who looks
Speaker 1: at life and says, let's live at the Winsome way.
Speaker 1: It's our good buddy from out in the buckle of
Speaker 1: the Bible belt, out there in the Midwest, where the
Speaker 1: grain grows great and the sun shines bright. It's our
Speaker 1: good buddy, Dan Snell, how are you on this glorious Monday?
Speaker 2: I am doing dandy. Thank you so much, Ken for
Speaker 2: those kind words. Always good to be on the nation's station.
Speaker 2: You know, I looked up why you were called that,
Speaker 2: and President Trump and WLW SEFNE have something in common.
Speaker 2: There's never been anything like it before ever ever, as
Speaker 2: Trump always says it, that's because I learned the wlw's
Speaker 2: first five hundred thousand watts and only five hundred thousand
Speaker 2: watt station before you were said, they said, can't do
Speaker 2: that anymore? Mean historic?
Speaker 1: Yeah, where I live, you used to be able to
Speaker 1: get it in your toaster. You put your toaster out
Speaker 1: there for morning toasts and you'd hear WLW five hundred
Speaker 1: thousand watts. And if the world goes sideways, Dan, if
Speaker 1: for some reason that we're invaded by aliens or there's
Speaker 1: some other cataclysmic event, it's one of the few radio
Speaker 1: stations that will remain on the air. We're right out
Speaker 1: there at Voice of America Plaza, out there just right
Speaker 1: by the transmitter, which is a giant edifice stand that
Speaker 1: looks like it tickles Mars. It's so big.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, I read about it. I was very impressed.
Speaker 2: You are the modern day You were the truth Social
Speaker 2: before truth social existed. Trump Trump would try to acquire
Speaker 2: you or make you the national station if he were
Speaker 2: president back in nineteen thirty five or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, right after Greenland, he may be
Speaker 1: coming for us. Who knows. All right, So I wanted
Speaker 1: to get you on to talk about the good and
Speaker 1: the bad at Trump. I mean, there are plenty in
Speaker 1: each column, There's no question about that. The thing I
Speaker 1: think is if we just extract what these polls are
Speaker 1: out there, which you know, I don't pay attention to them.
Speaker 1: I think they're old metrics. I think political junkies like them.
Speaker 1: I think the only poll accounts is election day. But
Speaker 1: if you extract all of that and just say, for
Speaker 1: the moment that, okay, Trump is probably at best underwater
Speaker 1: by about eight points. In some polls conducted by left
Speaker 1: wing organizations like CBS News, he's down by thirteen or
Speaker 1: fourteen points, as you know, as I look at what
Speaker 1: he's done, and we're not going to see the fruits
Speaker 1: of this until later on this year. But this big
Speaker 1: beautiful bill, which is now a big beautiful law that
Speaker 1: was passed allegedly, we're getting tax cuts, no tax on tips,
Speaker 1: reduced taxes, on social security, huge GDP growth, and you
Speaker 1: know internationally Dan look out and Rod's nuclear capability extracted.
Speaker 1: An illegal president in Venezuela, sees the oil fields that
Speaker 1: rightfully belonged to the oil companies from America that were
Speaker 1: run out by that by that government, and he stopped,
Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes, illegal immigration. So I think
Speaker 1: on his good on his good column, on his got
Speaker 1: it done column, I think it's rather it's rather you know,
Speaker 1: lofty there. But the bad column, I think is the
Speaker 1: thing that just overshadows all of that, unfortunately, and that
Speaker 1: is we lost a lot of jobs in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: didn't create a whole lot of jobs in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: And there's still this, I guess, this disconnect between Wall
Speaker 1: Street and Main Street. And I think that's what's probably
Speaker 1: more than anything, dragging this guy down in the minds
Speaker 1: of the public. Now, tell me where I'm wrong here
Speaker 1: and where we should embellish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you have an excellent points. You know,
Speaker 2: America wanted some of the things with regards to immigration
Speaker 2: and paying it time, to the economy, which is what
Speaker 2: he he ran on, and being strong across the world,
Speaker 2: and Donald Trump's had a lot of wins. We'll give him.
Speaker 2: We'll give him wins and some good policy ideas. The
Speaker 2: challenges he faces, and you and I have talked about
Speaker 2: this now for perhaps five years. Is sometimes his words
Speaker 2: that he chooses aren't as winsome as I'd like him to.
Speaker 2: And he follows he follows some of his big victories
Speaker 2: with then words or behavior that people go, why is
Speaker 2: he doing that? What's going on? And currently we know
Speaker 2: we have the Greenland and even the last twenty four
Speaker 2: hours he sends a note to the Prime Minister of
Speaker 2: Norway talking about tying Greenland to the Nobel Prize, which
Speaker 2: you know, kind of shocked people. And now tariffs on Europe.
Speaker 2: So that's just one example. In twenty twenty six, we
Speaker 2: have a lot of great things going that he can
Speaker 2: celebrate the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of our country.
Speaker 2: We've got to work on, you know, elections coming up,
Speaker 2: and so if he does not adjust his words and
Speaker 2: his flamboyancy, and it's going to be a tough year.
Speaker 2: If the economy does get on back on track, he
Speaker 2: can celebrate that and focus on that. But right now
Speaker 2: I speak to groups about the winsome way, and I've
Speaker 2: spoken some rotary groups recently, and even in the heartland
Speaker 2: of America, which has traditionally been pretty strong for Trump,
Speaker 2: there are people that are questioning the economy and for
Speaker 2: sure his behavior.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, the thing is, if anybody thought Trump was
Speaker 1: going to be different in his behavior of verbiage from
Speaker 1: Trump one point zero, they simply weren't paying attention. And
Speaker 1: the second thing I would I would say to all
Speaker 1: of that is Trump can't get a win in the media.
Speaker 1: He can't the media roots against this guy. I mean, Dan,
Speaker 1: I worked in Washington, d C. I saw how the
Speaker 1: sausage was. I worked in local television for forty five years.
Speaker 1: I know the kinds of people that populate both, and
Speaker 1: they're populated greatly by people that simply don't embrace conservative
Speaker 1: ways and our rooting openly. It seems at times for
Speaker 1: this guy to fail, and so he gets frustrated. And
Speaker 1: I think at times that frustration overwhelms him and he
Speaker 1: doesn't know how to deal with it. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's got enough people around him, and this is probably
Speaker 1: through his own doing. Who tell him. Look, let's step
Speaker 1: back a second. Let's take a deep breath. Let's not
Speaker 1: go down that road. And I think that's a major
Speaker 1: problem for him too. You can't have a bunch of
Speaker 1: yes people around you or you're doomed to fail.
Speaker 2: Would you agree, absolutely? Yeah. I think Susie Wilds as
Speaker 2: the chief of staff is a pretty strong that he
Speaker 2: should listen to her more than listen to his number
Speaker 2: two person there, Steven Miller. I think Steven Miller, for
Speaker 2: whatever reason, was wounded in life and thinks he has
Speaker 2: to constantly take it out on anything, any subject or
Speaker 2: any person. And I think key plants seeds in the
Speaker 2: president's here that the president then acts on and it
Speaker 2: doesn't serve the president's persona. And I think this year
Speaker 2: that there's got to be there will be a defining
Speaker 2: moment that something will turn him around. I have noticed
Speaker 2: that he does do some of these words. He likes
Speaker 2: to just get a rise out of Democrats or a
Speaker 2: rise out of the media. However, as you said, the
Speaker 2: media takes that because they're trying to do their job
Speaker 2: and they spin it negatively against the president. You know,
Speaker 2: we do have the biggest things concerns being concerning all media,
Speaker 2: social media to mainstream media. You and I have talked
Speaker 2: about this for years, is that we're so divided. I
Speaker 2: have friends that send me from the far left and
Speaker 2: the far right. They send me videos and clips and shorts.
Speaker 2: See how bad the right is, See how bad the
Speaker 2: left is. And you know, I'm standing in the middle
Speaker 2: trying to say, you know, flush out that. Hey, that's
Speaker 2: fifteen percent on the left and fifteen percent on the right.
Speaker 2: And the good people of Ohio, Cincinnati, or Kansas City,
Speaker 2: or a good old Nebraska by the way, undefeated University
Speaker 2: of Nebraska basketball at eighteen and no, we look at things.
Speaker 1: So is Miami of Ohio. So is Miami of Ohio too.
Speaker 1: They're only about bumbo. Okay, all right, So.
Speaker 2: We get the radicals on both sides, and it's dividing
Speaker 2: the country. And I just hate to see that. Minneapolis.
Speaker 2: What's going on there is a horrible situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. And I think what you're going to
Speaker 1: see unfortunately in Minneapolis, unless it changes as quickly as
Speaker 1: you are going to see some sort of military presence
Speaker 1: in there, over and beyond the Ice agents. It's going
Speaker 1: that way. They have a weak governor who is desperately
Speaker 1: trying to distract everybody from the fact that he's one
Speaker 1: of the most fraudulent governors in the history of America,
Speaker 1: and he's got a mayor who's right up there with
Speaker 1: him in Minneapolis, and it was matter from heaven when
Speaker 1: all of this ice thing exploded in his town. It
Speaker 1: distracted the public, and it obviously distracted the media, who
Speaker 1: wasn't really a hip to the whole deception and fraud
Speaker 1: that was going on up there. But be that as
Speaker 1: it may, Yeah, I think we voted in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: for a guy who turned out to be, you know,
Speaker 1: adam minded to be kind about Joe Biden turned out
Speaker 1: to be adamminded because we didn't like the way Trump
Speaker 1: Trump behaved, we didn't like his tweets, we didn't like
Speaker 1: the way he talked, and we saw what we got
Speaker 1: over the course of twenty twenty one to twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think Trump is it's incumbent upon Trump.
Speaker 1: If he really wants to save the GOP in the
Speaker 1: midterms and if he really wants somebody like JD. Vans
Speaker 1: to carry on his legacy, he's going to have to
Speaker 1: brush up and he's going to have to change. And
Speaker 1: I just don't know if he's capable of that.
Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, I think he's pretty set in his ways.
Speaker 2: You stay excellent point is that he is a little
Speaker 2: bit sensitive. I'm surprising to me that a man that's
Speaker 2: been that successful in life. You know, my background is
Speaker 2: the referee and the politician. I always pick the hobbies
Speaker 2: where you get heckled the most, right, So I think
Speaker 2: I can he needs to maybe go referee of basketball
Speaker 2: gate or where he's just very sensitive and I think
Speaker 2: he just needs to tough him up a little bit, which,
Speaker 2: as I don't think is going to happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, you said that there could be some event here
Speaker 1: in this year that that could turn the tables one
Speaker 1: way or the other for Trump, and I think he
Speaker 1: desperately needs it. He's trying to create things, the things
Speaker 1: that do that that turn the tables or change the
Speaker 1: narrative or gets whatever maybe he's interested in, and that's
Speaker 1: the success of his party going in another direction. Most
Speaker 1: of the time, those things are organic. They don't grow
Speaker 1: anywhere from somebody's idea and hey, we're going to have
Speaker 1: this great idea or this mid term convention or something
Speaker 1: like that. It's something that that's organic that usually popped
Speaker 1: up when you have an event like that. Am I
Speaker 1: right or wrong?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. We do see a movement now and
Speaker 2: smaller numbers. But it was of Republican senators and some
Speaker 2: congressmen trying to suddenly get the attention of the president
Speaker 2: by standing up to him on things like Greenland and
Speaker 2: some of the different events the War Powers Act. And
Speaker 2: so I think we may be good to have another
Speaker 2: Republican meeting, a rally that they might have there in
Speaker 2: Washington to talk about, Hey, how are we going to
Speaker 2: get on the same ship. We don't always have to
Speaker 2: drink the same my tie or the same drink on
Speaker 2: the cruise ship, but let's get the cruise ship going
Speaker 2: to the same place.
Speaker 1: You know. I mean this whole thing with Greenland, and
Speaker 1: it's you know again, it's a hot topic because Davos
Speaker 1: is starting this week and Trump is going over there.
Speaker 1: Trump isn't going to invade Greenland. I mean, that's a
Speaker 1: fast track to an impeachment that would stick. That ain't happening.
Speaker 1: And he's not going to buy Greenland. That we don't
Speaker 1: have the money to buy Greenland. I suppose we could
Speaker 1: print currency, but right now, if you haven't noticed, we've
Speaker 1: print a lot of currency. I think what he's doing,
Speaker 1: and this is obviously just a layman's analysis here, you
Speaker 1: know far better than me. I think he's just trying
Speaker 1: to get everybody's attention. What he really wants are the
Speaker 1: minerals that lie beneath Greenland. Greenland's a miserable place for
Speaker 1: about six months out of the year. I don't think anybody,
Speaker 1: even the people that live in Greenland, really want to
Speaker 1: be there, and so I think he's just trying to
Speaker 1: get added or get more of those minerals out of
Speaker 1: the ground that we need for things like pharmaceuticals and
Speaker 1: a stronger military presence in Greenland because he doesn't want
Speaker 1: China anywhere around that island. And I think all this
Speaker 1: other stuff is just bluster and negotiating and controlling the
Speaker 1: world narrative now is the world comes to a stage
Speaker 1: again at Davos. That's what I think is going on
Speaker 1: here with Greenland. I don't really think he wants it,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you.
Speaker 2: It's going to be an interesting next couple of weeks
Speaker 2: with Europe gathering together and some of both sides of
Speaker 2: standing up and throwing their chests at each other and saying, hey,
Speaker 2: you're not going to do this or I am going
Speaker 2: to do this. I think President Trump has the right
Speaker 2: idea in looking at what's the future of the world
Speaker 2: when he even talked about Canada or agreement, but the
Speaker 2: way that he went about it, his approach instead of
Speaker 2: trying to say, hey, let's put our heads together and
Speaker 2: see how we could keep the world safe for long
Speaker 2: term twenty five years from now, but the way that
Speaker 2: he just ruffled feathers so much. And that's his style
Speaker 2: because he's a billionaire that's always been able to throw
Speaker 2: money and power around and influence, and you can't always
Speaker 2: do that when you're in the world of politics.
Speaker 1: If the phone call came tonight from Susan Wils's chief
Speaker 1: of staff to you, Dan Snell, knowing that you have
Speaker 1: run for political office multiple times and you've written a
Speaker 1: number of books The Winsome Way, The Winsome Candidate, and
Speaker 1: knowing that you are at heart a Reagan Republican, and
Speaker 1: Susan called you and she said, Dan, we need you
Speaker 1: here in the White House where we need to start
Speaker 1: advising the President as to what direction he needs to
Speaker 1: go here in the next eight months so we're not
Speaker 1: ambushed in November, because if the Democrats get in and
Speaker 1: get control of the House in November, their first order
Speaker 1: of business won't be anything that benefits you, me, or
Speaker 1: anyone else. Their first order of business will be to
Speaker 1: impeach Donald Trump. We know it's coming. So if she
Speaker 1: called you and you say, okay, Susan, I'll be out
Speaker 1: there tomorrow. I get on a NonStop flight right now
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. I'll see you tomorrow morning. As you
Speaker 1: walked into the Oval office with Susan Wiles, and she said,
Speaker 1: Susan said, here is Dan Snell to help us out.
Speaker 1: Mister President, what would you tell.
Speaker 2: Him, Well, thank you for even thinking I could do that,
Speaker 2: because I do. But I honestly believe I could make
Speaker 2: a difference there in Washington, DC. I'd probably wear my
Speaker 2: referee shirt and I'd walk in and say, mister President,
Speaker 2: this is my college officiating shirt, and this is a whistle,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to blow this whistle when I see
Speaker 2: you doing something that's unsports than my conduct. It's hurting you, sir,
Speaker 2: and it's hurting Republican Party, and it's hurting the court.
Speaker 2: And the court is the game instead of basketball to
Speaker 2: the United States. So yeah, I honestly believe. And sometimes
Speaker 2: this happens around this time of the year where they
Speaker 2: make some adjustments in the administration and officials leave and stay.
Speaker 1: But what would you tell What would you tell him, though, Dan,
Speaker 1: What would you say? What would your first order of
Speaker 1: business be? I mean, blow the whistle? Great, you probably
Speaker 1: get all the yes men in the office. The whistle blows, Hey,
Speaker 1: we better go. But what would what would you specifically
Speaker 1: tell him?
Speaker 2: I'd say, mister President, I believe that I represent the
Speaker 2: heartland of America, and probably that's about seventy percent across
Speaker 2: the whole country, not just the heartland. But mister President,
Speaker 2: you're you're off track. You're on the wrong course in
Speaker 2: how you're going about some of these things. And I, sir,
Speaker 2: want to serve you, to make you historically a great
Speaker 2: legacy and the big America better. But the way you're
Speaker 2: doing it, you're going to cause a big loss in
Speaker 2: twenty six in the midterms, and you're going to end
Speaker 2: up in the history books not the way you want
Speaker 2: to do it. And so please listen to me. And
Speaker 2: if you don't listen to me, I'm going to keep
Speaker 2: pushing until you do. He needs somebody that can stand
Speaker 2: up to him. You know, Donald Trump puts his pants
Speaker 2: on the same way I do. He's just a guy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he could do whatever he wanted to do to me,
Speaker 2: but he's got to have someone that says enough, sir,
Speaker 2: enough and.
Speaker 1: Yeah he says enough, and somebody yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: got yeah, You've got to. I mean he needs somebody.
Speaker 1: I think you'd be a hell of a guy in
Speaker 1: that ovalhelf and stand to be honest. We need somebody
Speaker 1: going there and just talk reality to him. And he's
Speaker 1: at war with the world. He's at war with the press,
Speaker 1: and the American people grew tired of it back in
Speaker 1: his first term. And that's how we got Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: God forbid. In twenty twenty eight, regardless of who runs,
Speaker 1: God forbid, this country gets somebody like Gavin Newsom. Because
Speaker 1: if you thought Kamala Harris could have been bad, and
Speaker 1: if you thought Joe Biden was bad, wait till that
Speaker 1: guy gets into the Oval office. And my god, I
Speaker 1: just thought today the California owes the federal government one
Speaker 1: billion dollars because of the medical aid that they're providing
Speaker 1: to illegal aliens in California. And that's just the tip
Speaker 1: of it. They've got all kinds of wild ideas out
Speaker 1: there that are basically printing money to give away to
Speaker 1: this group or that group. God forbids somebody like that
Speaker 1: shows up in the White House in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1: But Dan, our time is up. I do think you
Speaker 1: can make that phone call now. I can track down
Speaker 1: Susan Wilds if you want. You know, she used to
Speaker 1: be She's the daughter of the late Pat Numberol, So
Speaker 1: I'm sure I can find her numbers somewhere if I
Speaker 1: get it. Can I give you her number? Will that
Speaker 1: be all right?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I would love to talk to her. I've also
Speaker 2: thought about trying to reach out to an interviewer, but
Speaker 2: you know, one of the executive orders I have him
Speaker 2: do first is make WLW back to five hundred thousand
Speaker 2: wats like we opened with, because then the truth, justice
Speaker 2: in American way, and goodness would be sent throughout the land.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: All those executives from Cumulus Radio just hit the just
Speaker 1: hit the floor screaming, Oh no, we are the heart
Speaker 1: that beats at iHeart.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 1: Uh, Dan, you stay well and you and I'll be
Speaker 1: in touch.
Speaker 5: Thanks for your time, all right, Stay winsome.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, somebody's got to pull. Somebody's got a real
Speaker 1: like guy in. He's not going to buy Greenland. We're
Speaker 1: not buying, we're not invading Greenland. It's not that's that's
Speaker 1: a bunch of people on national talk shows trying to
Speaker 1: stir it up and get eyeballs and people, We're not
Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. What he's doing is this
Speaker 1: is a negotiation. And if you've been in a negotiation,
Speaker 1: you know how these things work. You know, you get
Speaker 1: the other guy riled up, and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you make the deu won and he's like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that didn't happen. Twelve twenty eight. The average
Speaker 1: American inn for the Great American on this Martin Luther
Speaker 1: King Junior Day on seven hundred WLW twelve thirty nine,
Speaker 1: on this Monday, It's the average American inn for the
Speaker 1: Great American. Wherever your you are, however, you may be
Speaker 1: listening either on this great medium called terrestrial radio that
Speaker 1: Dan Snell wants to take back to five hundred thousand
Speaker 1: watts and I'm one hundred percent in agreement with him,
Speaker 1: or on the or on the iHeartRadio app we welcome
Speaker 1: you in and thank you for joining us. So we've
Speaker 1: seized the oil fields in Venezuela. We got Maduro out.
Speaker 1: He's now in this country awaiting trial. He was an
Speaker 1: illegal president, he was an illegal everything, dictator, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to say. And so they got Maduro out. Not
Speaker 1: sure who's in charge yet in Venezuela, but eventually whomever
Speaker 1: this current administration wants in charge of Venezuela will wind
Speaker 1: up there running it until they can hold free elections.
Speaker 1: But one thing we did get back are the oil fields,
Speaker 1: and those oil fields rightfully belong to people other than
Speaker 1: the dictator that has just been extricated from Venezuela.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump said two things this week. One that Venezuela
Speaker 1: and whatever profits are realized from these oil fields that
Speaker 1: are now under the USA's control, Venezuela will realize money
Speaker 1: from that, as well as the companies that owned those
Speaker 1: oil fields before they were run out by the Maduro government.
Speaker 1: And also today, I was just watching Fox Business and
Speaker 1: they had a guest on who was saying that we
Speaker 1: will be knee deep in Venezuela oil for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 1: And I said to myself, well that's good on one hand,
Speaker 1: but perhaps bad on another hand for those that drove
Speaker 1: baby drill here in the United States. So I wanted
Speaker 1: to get a good guest of this program on and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this about RT. Travino. He is not
Speaker 1: only the guy who runs Peko's Country Energy, which is
Speaker 1: a privately owned oil and gas exploration and production company
Speaker 1: headquartered in the Fort Worth area of Texas. He is
Speaker 1: also the man that the character Tommy Norris of Landman
Speaker 1: was built around. Yeah, Billy Bob Thornton, I think, and
Speaker 1: I'll confirm this in just a second. I think moved
Speaker 1: in with R. T. Travino for about six months so
Speaker 1: Billy Bob could study exactly what a landman like RT.
Speaker 1: Travino does on the job. This is fascinating. If true,
Speaker 1: I read this somewhere. I'm not sure, but let's confirm it.
Speaker 6: RT.
Speaker 1: Travino. How are you on this glorious Monday.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, I'm doing excellent today, Ken, and thank
Speaker 7: you as always for those lavish introductions. I will not confirm,
Speaker 7: but I won't deny that Billy Bob Thoyd had to
Speaker 7: come sit down and mirror by.
Speaker 3: For a few months before shooting Taylor Sharda's new hit show.
Speaker 1: Did he clean out your refrigerator? Did he replenish what
Speaker 1: he ate? Did he make his bed? I mean, what
Speaker 1: was it like?
Speaker 7: You know, for the most part, all of us in
Speaker 7: the oil and gas industry are very respectful of others property,
Speaker 7: and we do like to return what we may or
Speaker 7: may not of eating and or drinking.
Speaker 1: He's got a pretty hot wife on that show, you know, Angela.
Speaker 1: Did she show up at all at the Art Travino residence.
Speaker 3: There, No, no, she did not show up.
Speaker 7: And I'm sure as many of us that are about
Speaker 7: my age didn't though that Marcity Blues was still a thing.
Speaker 1: Well, now i'm looking here last week, I guess it
Speaker 1: was maybe thursd Your Friday gas was about two dollars
Speaker 1: and sixty seven cents a gallon on the national basis.
Speaker 1: You look around today here in the Greater Cincinnati area,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing gas regular gas going for as low as
Speaker 1: two dollars and nineteen cents a gallon. I'm looking in
Speaker 1: places like well Mount Healthy, for example, a very nice
Speaker 1: community here in the Greater Cincinnati area. Two dollars and
Speaker 1: thirty one cents a gallon Middletown Kroger has got it
Speaker 1: for two thirty two. I said it's as low as
Speaker 1: two nineteen. That's in Pleasant Run. I'm just wondering. Trump
Speaker 1: said six seven months ago the gasoline would eventually get
Speaker 1: below two dollars a gallon. Now that we've got all
Speaker 1: of this this oil from Venezuela, is that just going
Speaker 1: to hasten the process of getting the price of a
Speaker 1: gallon of gasoline below two dollars a gallon?
Speaker 7: Well, you know, if I was a betman at twenty
Speaker 7: sixteen when I voted against Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have gotten that one righted.
Speaker 7: If somebody asked me six months ago, will we ask
Speaker 7: you to seat two dollars gasoline?
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure.
Speaker 7: It looks like we're definitely on pace, and there in Cincinnati,
Speaker 7: that whole area remains relatively low compared to the national price,
Speaker 7: and especially when you have the seasonal factors that have
Speaker 7: been introduced and the ample global oil supply right now,
Speaker 7: and let's not always forget about the great US production
Speaker 7: levels that we have.
Speaker 3: So it's just really great.
Speaker 7: And with the Cincinnati somewhere just around like those prices
Speaker 7: that you mentioned, they're still down significantly from last year.
Speaker 3: How awesome is that? It is?
Speaker 4: It is?
Speaker 1: But now we've got this oil coming in from Venezuela,
Speaker 1: and and I have visited enough in the past to
Speaker 1: know that the oil that comes out of the ground
Speaker 1: in Venezuela is called in the oil business dirty oil.
Speaker 1: Might right about.
Speaker 7: That, that's true that we try to use the word crude,
Speaker 7: which just means it's got a lot more in there,
Speaker 7: a lot of more crud in there, if you will. However,
Speaker 7: that oil does so well here in America, not only
Speaker 7: by into our refineries with our sweet Texas oil that
Speaker 7: we get here in the great seat of Texas, but
Speaker 7: also can for the refine.
Speaker 3: For the strategic petroleum reserve.
Speaker 7: We were able to refill our strategic petroleum reserve for
Speaker 7: a lot less than in the past. And I've been
Speaker 7: hearing numbers been thrown around, and I just want to
Speaker 7: say that this as a what if, because years ago,
Speaker 7: would President Trump during his first term tried to have
Speaker 7: a Democrat led Congress purchase enough oil to refill the
Speaker 7: strategic petroleum reserve.
Speaker 3: They said no at twenty five dollars oil.
Speaker 7: Okay, The what if Ruber right now, is that Venezuela
Speaker 7: was selling that oil to China for thirty dollars a barrel.
Speaker 7: So the rumor is that President Trump's going, Okay, we're
Speaker 7: going to honor that same deal and we're going to
Speaker 7: fill up the strategic reserve at thirty dollars barre oil,
Speaker 7: which would be great for the nation. It doesn't hurt
Speaker 7: the oil and gas companies of the United States, but
Speaker 7: it also doesn't necessarily help us at the same time. Right,
Speaker 7: But for as a country red and yellow, black and white, left, right,
Speaker 7: it helps us out tremendously.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. And let's not forget the reserve is intended for
Speaker 1: a national emergency. It's also intended for if God forbid,
Speaker 1: we ever go to war. You know, I still think
Speaker 1: there are people around here aret that around here, around everywhere.
Speaker 1: They think, oh, now we have electric tanks and we
Speaker 1: got electric trucks, and no, no, we aren't there. And
Speaker 1: we're certainly not marching down that road as quickly as
Speaker 1: we were under the past administration. So this is an
Speaker 1: emergency reserve if this country needs it for whatever. It's
Speaker 1: not something to be tapped into, as Biden did to
Speaker 1: lower the price of a gasoline at the A gallon
Speaker 1: of gasoline at the pump because you want to curry
Speaker 1: more favor with voters. It wasn't intended for that. It
Speaker 1: was intended for a national emergency for this country. So yes,
Speaker 1: I'm more than in favor of replenishing that and getting
Speaker 1: it back to the levels that it was during Trump's
Speaker 1: first administration. Now with regards to this oil, you've got
Speaker 1: that sweet stuff that's coming out of the ground as
Speaker 1: sweet crude. It's not crude. It's sweet oil coming out
Speaker 1: of the out of the ground in Texas. And we've
Speaker 1: got the crude or the dirty oil coming from Venezuela.
Speaker 1: All that sounds good. We haven't built a refinery of
Speaker 1: any note in this country in fifty years. How are
Speaker 1: you going to refine all of this stuff?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 7: That's that's the next question. It's about build, baby, build.
Speaker 7: We have enough oil and natural gas to sustain the
Speaker 7: United States combine combined.
Speaker 3: Well, let me say that again. We have enough combined.
Speaker 7: However, we don't have the infrastructure, all refining abilities to
Speaker 7: do that. Really a lot with the natural gas because
Speaker 7: as a nation, the United States uses twenty to one
Speaker 7: million barrels of oil a day, Okay, or bos boat
Speaker 7: barrels of oil equivalent, and we produce almost fourteen.
Speaker 3: Million barrels of oil a day, and.
Speaker 7: The estimates on how much natural gas we flare every
Speaker 7: day are monstrous. So we really need to be able
Speaker 7: to capture that natural gas to really lower all these
Speaker 7: prices even more.
Speaker 1: You know, the price of a gallon of gasoline. People
Speaker 1: always say, okay, yeah, So if the price of a
Speaker 1: gallon of gasoline that we take out of the barrel,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the price of a gallon of gasoline visa
Speaker 1: be the barrel of oil. How does that affect me
Speaker 1: at the pump? And it's not just well, we can
Speaker 1: get it out of the ground cheaper, because if the
Speaker 1: price of crude falls too far, we're dealing with businessmen here.
Speaker 1: We're not dealing with you know, entrepreneurs or philanthropists or
Speaker 1: people that want to make other people feel good. You're
Speaker 1: in business to make money. That's the way it works.
Speaker 1: But if that price of crude falls too far, then
Speaker 1: the American producers are going to cut back and then
Speaker 1: because it would be less profitable to drill. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a delicate balance you have to have between the
Speaker 1: price of a barrel of oil vis a v what
Speaker 1: it does to you and me and everybody else at
Speaker 1: the gas pump. Can you explain that relationship? If it
Speaker 1: goes too low, I might say, well, we'll just let
Speaker 1: that set there until that price starts coming back up.
Speaker 7: You are absolutely correct, and to give back to just
Speaker 7: your other question about refineries, absolutely be so important for
Speaker 7: us for build another refinery right now, and that could
Speaker 7: be what part of the strategic play is of the
Speaker 7: majors with looking for certainties, because if we could guarantee
Speaker 7: x amount of barrels of venezuela and crude coming to
Speaker 7: American to be refined every day, that would also lower
Speaker 7: the price asaline.
Speaker 3: And then it is a business. It is business.
Speaker 7: It's a free market, it's business one oh one, which
Speaker 7: is all we all going to make profit. The Great
Speaker 7: Harold Ham was just on one of the news outlets
Speaker 7: this weekend sharing that at some point it's going to
Speaker 7: be too expensive for all oil Producersduce that is correct.
Speaker 3: As an independent papers.
Speaker 7: We have a lot lower threshold. But for some of
Speaker 7: these mid majors that sixty dollars is the number. They're
Speaker 7: not far off from having to just stopped producing, which
Speaker 7: will then mean loss of jobs and that we will
Speaker 7: see oil production go down, and that's not something we want.
Speaker 7: So we have to find that middle ground. And right
Speaker 7: now I think we have a president that is actually
Speaker 7: resetting the economic stature, not only here in America.
Speaker 3: Which he's making it great, but he's that in the world.
Speaker 7: Know that nobody can do anything without the United States
Speaker 7: of America exactly.
Speaker 1: And this then chokes off oil supply to places like
Speaker 1: Cuba or place is like China, and that all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, rather than having a free spicket in Venezuela,
Speaker 1: they're going to have to do business with us. But again,
Speaker 1: and I want to get to I don't want to
Speaker 1: get too deep in the weeds on the oil and
Speaker 1: gas industry. You know it far better than anybody that
Speaker 1: is sitting in this studio right now or might be
Speaker 1: out there. This light crude that the US produces, it's
Speaker 1: cheaper to refine, and most of our refineries are designed
Speaker 1: to process a mix of that light crude and that
Speaker 1: dirty crude from Venezuela. But it seems to me that
Speaker 1: it costs more to refine this oil from Venezuela. Am
Speaker 1: I right about that? Even if there's mixed. If there's
Speaker 1: mixed refineries there, it has to cost more. If it's
Speaker 1: just stuff that's not as sweet as what comes out
Speaker 1: of the ground in Texas. Therefore, it might not affect
Speaker 1: the price of a gallon of gasoline as well as
Speaker 1: what we think it might be. Am am I connecting
Speaker 1: the dots here, or am I wrong?
Speaker 3: Ken?
Speaker 7: What we have here in America is the majority of
Speaker 7: the refinery is I would say a strong seventy five
Speaker 7: percent of the refiners in America are not built to
Speaker 7: actually refine the sweet Texas crude. They are actually built
Speaker 7: and designed to refine that cheap or the lesser expensive oil,
Speaker 7: like in Venezuela in the Middle East, where we were
Speaker 7: getting millions and millions of barrels of oil from a day.
Speaker 7: A lot of our oil actually gets refined out at
Speaker 7: other places and then may or may not come back
Speaker 7: to us. So again, getting back the refinery question, we
Speaker 7: absolutely need a new refinery. We could use two or
Speaker 7: three several years ago, if I remember correctly, then one
Speaker 7: of the very first times I got to meet with
Speaker 7: you was because Exon Mobile had just refurbished part of
Speaker 7: an old refinery into Now we're being able to refine
Speaker 7: two hundred and fifty thousand barrels of Sweet Texas old crude.
Speaker 7: And that was a huge, huge move, And so we
Speaker 7: need more things like that in the future to truly
Speaker 7: be able to become independent, not only in all the
Speaker 7: other ways, but most importantly in energy independence.
Speaker 1: Here all right, So I rattled off some numbers here
Speaker 1: in the Greater Cincinnati area. By the way, we're chatting
Speaker 1: with RT. Travino. He is, he's the man that they
Speaker 1: based Landman on. And I can't confirm this, but I
Speaker 1: know there was Hollywood production people that were all over
Speaker 1: his where he lives, his neighborhood and everything, and watching
Speaker 1: him out in the area, roughnecking and things like that.
Speaker 1: I guess for reasons you can't confirm that, is that correct?
Speaker 1: You just don't want to be besieged by autograph seekers
Speaker 1: and things like that. So I have I've got these
Speaker 1: numbers that I've that I've rattled off about a price
Speaker 1: of gallon of gasoline here in the Greater Cincinnati area,
Speaker 1: and it's close to two dollars a gallon our tea.
Speaker 1: Knowing that the summer is coming up, knowing that the
Speaker 1: air is the summer gas and there's winter gas, and
Speaker 1: it changes prices when we hit the bricks here in
Speaker 1: May and into July fourth. Could it be under two
Speaker 1: dollars a gallon by then?
Speaker 7: If there's ever gonna be a time in the United
Speaker 7: States history for us to be below two dollars again.
Speaker 7: And here in the Great Stead of Texas, we've actually
Speaker 7: seen those some places like that. I know we've seen
Speaker 7: them in like Corpus Chrissy, Amarillo. But if we want
Speaker 7: to see that on a national average, this is going
Speaker 7: to be the summer to do it. I do believe
Speaker 7: that if we don't see it by the end of
Speaker 7: July twenty twenty six, we won't see it.
Speaker 1: Well, he might just try and figure all this out,
Speaker 1: he being the president, with his smart guys there, they
Speaker 1: might just have two dollars gallon of gasoline by July fourth,
Speaker 1: two hundred and fiftieth birthday of these United States. By
Speaker 1: the way, before I let you go, you of course
Speaker 1: have had it in the ground for a while, that
Speaker 1: big beautiful diamond bit that is at ken Brew One
Speaker 1: in your field. How many barrels of oil are coming
Speaker 1: out of the ground from Kenbrew One with paper energy?
Speaker 7: Yes, No, the Kim Brew run is still just as
Speaker 7: strong as consistent as it was on day one, just
Speaker 7: like you are with your radio show, just pumping it
Speaker 7: out and giving out great production and great.
Speaker 3: Just communication all day every day.
Speaker 7: And that well, it's just the kim Brew number one
Speaker 7: has done us so well.
Speaker 1: And there's not a lot of people passing out from
Speaker 1: the natural gas fumes like we saw on why that
Speaker 1: one land Man episode. It's not like it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's endangering the environment or anything I want. I can't
Speaker 1: do that. I have to be environmentally friendly.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, and that was not natural if I'm correct the episode.
Speaker 7: You're thinking of that as a very dangerous mustard gas.
Speaker 4: Oh don't we.
Speaker 7: Wear yes no, and so you wear no no. So
Speaker 7: we wear a lot of safety gear, have monitors on set,
Speaker 7: and fortunately knock on wood, as I always like to say,
Speaker 7: knock on wood, and this area of where the Kimbrew
Speaker 7: Number one is, we don't have a lot of that.
Speaker 1: Well, when I get down there, you and I are
Speaker 1: going to the patch. We're gonna go to the p
Speaker 1: absolutely and we're gonna go in there and we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna have some beers and we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: all this stuff in person, because I really want to
Speaker 1: get down I want to get my hands dirty when
Speaker 1: I go down there. I want that. I want that
Speaker 1: crude all over me that I have to scrub off
Speaker 1: with with pomise and things like that. I just want.
Speaker 1: I want a rough nicked. And I'll be able to
Speaker 1: do that, right.
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, absolutely, you know we'll get you to sling
Speaker 7: some chain out.
Speaker 1: There, sling some chain. That sounds fascinating. All right, RT.
Speaker 1: You stay well. You know we'll be in touch. Keep
Speaker 1: the faith, brother, Thank you.
Speaker 3: Ken't have a good one.
Speaker 1: Yep, there he is the original landman.
Speaker 5: RT.
Speaker 1: Travino. It's twelve fifty six on this Monday. Glad you're
Speaker 1: with us. No, I mean it, I'm glad you're with us. Hell,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this alone. Seven hundred WLW
Speaker 1: ten minutes after one o'clock, which would be one ten
Speaker 1: on the Eastern time zone. Here in the greatest country
Speaker 1: in the world, the United States of America, and it's
Speaker 1: the average American and for the great American on this
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King Junior day, Glad you are with us.
Speaker 1: I don't say that capriciously, for without you what would
Speaker 1: I be. I would be one man sitting in a
Speaker 1: room babbling by himself. And why would I have to
Speaker 1: leave home to do that? A lot to get to
Speaker 1: on the show. It's college football Championship night tonight. We'll
Speaker 1: have a little Indiana angle to preview on that. I
Speaker 1: like Indiana in this game. I know the emotions are
Speaker 1: with Miami. They're playing just around the street, round the
Speaker 1: corner and down the street from where their university sits.
Speaker 1: Also the biggest red flags in job interviews, and there
Speaker 1: are a few A lot of people are looking for work.
Speaker 1: Jobs were tough to come by in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: And if you're out looking now, maybe some things you
Speaker 1: can avoid that might make you a more attractive candidate.
Speaker 1: And we've also arrived at Blue Monday. This apparently is
Speaker 1: the one day in the three hundred and sixty five
Speaker 1: calendar days that is the day that is most difficult
Speaker 1: to get through for some people, Blue Monday. And I
Speaker 1: don't know why, but it's always this date in January. Anyway,
Speaker 1: We're going to get into that before we're done here
Speaker 1: at three o'clock.
Speaker 3: And this.
Speaker 1: What this world needs, I think, is a good laugh.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of things that go on in
Speaker 1: this world that are so serious, a lot of things
Speaker 1: that go on in this world that consume us. And
Speaker 1: as you get older, you look back on the things
Speaker 1: that did that to you at a certain age and
Speaker 1: you say to yourself, why was I so concerned about that?
Speaker 1: But apparently that's where we are. We don't want information,
Speaker 1: it seems like anymore. We want affirmation, and so we
Speaker 1: gravitate to the various websites and the various radio shows
Speaker 1: and television programs that tell us exactly what we want
Speaker 1: to hear. And what we want to hear all the
Speaker 1: time isn't necessarily the truth, it's just what we want
Speaker 1: to hear. And we get enraptured with things like doom
Speaker 1: scrolling on Twitter, and we get consumed with what other
Speaker 1: people say to us and about us, when sometimes all
Speaker 1: we really want to do is laugh, just have a
Speaker 1: good time. Well, I've got the place for you, and
Speaker 1: I've got the guy that can do it. Coming to
Speaker 1: the Funny Bone. Have you ever been to the Funnybone
Speaker 1: out there in Liberty Township? Coming to the Funny Bone
Speaker 1: the end of this month for a couple of shows
Speaker 1: on January thirtieth and thirty. First is a guy you
Speaker 1: have probably seen a lot of on television if you
Speaker 1: watch the show Gutfeld on Fox News. If you watch
Speaker 1: that show that's on at ten o'clock at night, they
Speaker 1: have a lot of comedians on The one comedian that
Speaker 1: I love that is always on that show is Jamie Lissau.
Speaker 1: He's deadpan funny. In fact, Guttfeld calls him one of
Speaker 1: the five best comedians working today. He's been in a
Speaker 1: number of movies. In fact, he was in the Netflix
Speaker 1: original series Real Rob that was with Rob Schneider, Adam Sandler,
Speaker 1: Norton McDonald, the late Norm McDonald, and David Spade, and
Speaker 1: in fact he co wrote and co produced that. He's
Speaker 1: been on The Tonight Show, the Late Night Show, He's
Speaker 1: been on all of the late night shows, and a
Speaker 1: lot of the Comedy Central shows, the specials that pop up.
Speaker 1: And so when the booker, the guy that places the
Speaker 1: various comedians at these clubs around the country, when the
Speaker 1: booker said, would you like to talk to Jamie Lissaw,
Speaker 1: I said yes, because I think this guy has just
Speaker 1: dropped dead funny, and I also wanted to talk to
Speaker 1: him about the serious side of his business. Which is
Speaker 1: a really tough business to find any kind of traction.
Speaker 1: So here he is now ready to join us on
Speaker 1: seven hundred w WELW on this Monday, and let's ask him, Jamie,
Speaker 1: let's l how are you on this glorious day.
Speaker 4: I'm really good, Ken, thanks for thanks for making the time.
Speaker 4: Very excited to come back to Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: No, I'm glad. I'm glad you're here. You've you've hit
Speaker 1: some spots around here. I mean, you've been in California,
Speaker 1: North Carolina, Alabama, places like Laugh Factory, Wits End, Comedy Club, Punchline,
Speaker 1: Side Splitters. I often said, if I was going to
Speaker 1: open up a comedy club, I'd call it Depressions, because
Speaker 1: what I do is get people in there and then
Speaker 1: they'd laugh and they'd feel better about themselves. I think
Speaker 1: I got a good idea.
Speaker 4: I like that. I think I like that name for
Speaker 4: a club. I have this weird thing that I think
Speaker 4: about all the time where it's kind of a morbid,
Speaker 4: but I always think about if something ever happened to
Speaker 4: me and then they report that something terrible happened to
Speaker 4: me in the news, I hope that I'm on my
Speaker 4: way to a good comedy club. When the report comes out, like,
Speaker 4: I hope it's like a bunnybone, were like, oh, Jamie
Speaker 4: was going to fight. I just can't have a report like,
Speaker 4: you know, Jamie's car went off the road on his
Speaker 4: way to rooster Te Feathers. I just can't.
Speaker 1: Oh, my god, at what age? And I have some
Speaker 1: serious questions because I, you know, I'm fascinated by your business.
Speaker 1: At what age did you realize you could make people laugh?
Speaker 4: So honestly, I would say at about ten years old,
Speaker 4: my default was comedy. So like, even at like ten, eleven, twelve,
Speaker 4: if I was in trouble, or if I was stressed
Speaker 4: out or the parents were acting strange, I noticed that
Speaker 4: my default before anything else was to try to make
Speaker 4: everyone laugh. And then it was not until many, many
Speaker 4: years later, even after watching Rodney Danderfield's Young Comedian especially,
Speaker 4: it took years for me to realize that people could
Speaker 4: do that as a job. I thought they did that
Speaker 4: but also had other jobs. My whole life, I thought, oh,
Speaker 4: comedians probably you know, during the day, their accountants or something.
Speaker 4: I didn't know it was a full time job. And
Speaker 4: so when I got older, and really I was actually
Speaker 4: in law school, for a solid week and when I
Speaker 4: when I found out you could do this for a living,
Speaker 4: and I dropped out of law school after a week
Speaker 4: with my father's support, and I ended up trying stand
Speaker 4: up And that was thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: Did you work on routines at that young age? I mean,
Speaker 1: were you working up material at that point?
Speaker 4: So in about maybe like fourteen or fifteen, I was embarrassing,
Speaker 4: but I'd be in my basement and I had a
Speaker 4: microphone that was not even it was not even plugged in,
Speaker 4: and it was just a microphone, and I would pretend
Speaker 4: I was talking to people. And years later I was
Speaker 4: performing at a comedy club in my hometown of Rush
Speaker 4: to New York and my neighbor and it was like
Speaker 4: packed and it was exciting. And my neighbor told me
Speaker 4: she used to come and listen to me outside of
Speaker 4: my basements when I was performing for no one.
Speaker 1: I think Buddy Hackett got started the same way.
Speaker 4: I think so might the same I had.
Speaker 1: That woman arrested, might have had the same neighbor. I
Speaker 1: don't know, do comedians like each other or because I mean,
Speaker 1: you're you were on all these specials and you've been uh,
Speaker 1: Rob Schneider has been very good to you, and I
Speaker 1: just wonder if they like each other or if it's
Speaker 1: you get in a room and they're all trying to
Speaker 1: one help each other. How does that work.
Speaker 4: I would say it's almost like there's two groups of
Speaker 4: comics if I was only going to separate them into
Speaker 4: like group A and Group B, and there are there
Speaker 4: is a huge like community of comedians that just want
Speaker 4: each other to succeed, and you kind of find out
Speaker 4: who they are early on and all my friends, like
Speaker 4: my favorite phone call is when one of my openers
Speaker 4: tells me I got to cancel because I'm headlining, I
Speaker 4: can't open for you. And I go, that's the best,
Speaker 4: That's what I want for them. And I surround myself
Speaker 4: with like Rob Schneider, like that man is more excited
Speaker 4: for me than I am excited for myself, no kidding,
Speaker 4: Like he is so excited, and I think we sort
Speaker 4: of like, because I'm like that, I tend to be
Speaker 4: around people like that. But you are absolutely right that
Speaker 4: there is the opposite of that, where it's a little
Speaker 4: bit more cutthroat and competitive. But those guys aren't in
Speaker 4: my friend group. You know, those guys kind of are
Speaker 4: on their own thing. So I kind of prefer it
Speaker 4: this way in comedy and also in all things, you know,
Speaker 4: like where we all kind of root for each other,
Speaker 4: there's room for everybody, you know, it's like there's only
Speaker 4: one slot.
Speaker 1: No, no, I know, I totally agree with that. I
Speaker 1: think there's I think it's that way in a lot
Speaker 1: of creative businesses. And sometimes you get caught up in
Speaker 1: your own bs and all of a sudden you're surrounded
Speaker 1: by people that couldn't care less about you, And what
Speaker 1: a terrible place to be. You you write, it seems
Speaker 1: like a lot. Do you write for the gut Feld
Speaker 1: Show as well?
Speaker 4: You know what's funny?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 4: I have as a like a fill in when there's
Speaker 4: an emergency. But my problem is, I'll be totally honest
Speaker 4: with you. When I write a good joke, I do
Speaker 4: not want to give that the great guess. I'll like
Speaker 4: to keep that for myself. But there's other guys who
Speaker 4: are more joke machines, like a Joe Devido, a Joe Mackey,
Speaker 4: a Cat Tents, and so they are the regular writers
Speaker 4: in the show. I will certainly fill in, but I
Speaker 4: will admit my best shows will probably stay in my pockets?
Speaker 4: How happy to fill in?
Speaker 1: How often do you write? In other words, I mean
Speaker 1: you've had specials and things like that, and you don't
Speaker 1: want to repeat the same jokes constantly. Like I love
Speaker 1: Rodney Dangerfield, but Rodney Dangerfield to tell the same joke
Speaker 1: and then three years later he's telling the same joke.
Speaker 1: I think he was a genius, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: but the comedian is out there long enough. You don't
Speaker 1: want to have stale materials. So how often do you write?
Speaker 1: Are you writing every day?
Speaker 4: Yeah? And like I try to make sure we go
Speaker 4: back to market. It's usually like a year at least
Speaker 4: imageween markets, And when we do theaters, we go back
Speaker 4: a year and a half later. And the goal is
Speaker 4: if somebody came to that first show and they come
Speaker 4: to that second or eighteen months later, it's a gotta
Speaker 4: be ninety nine percent of a new show. So they
Speaker 4: come back that third time in that fourth time, and
Speaker 4: it's creating a new experience for them. And so I
Speaker 4: do work really hard at that. And I also try
Speaker 4: to work very hard at every show that I do.
Speaker 4: Even if you came to, you know, the Friday late
Speaker 4: show at the Funny moone and then the Saturday and
Speaker 4: early show. I think those would be a little different too.
Speaker 4: I think each one would sort of have its own thing.
Speaker 4: I try to keep it like, you know, not like interactive,
Speaker 4: like I'm doing croudwork. I have my hour, but I
Speaker 4: will certainly invite it to be a little bit different
Speaker 4: than if you just watched this on television. Like I
Speaker 4: know you're there, we can talk to each other and
Speaker 4: it's like a night out that it's going to be unique,
Speaker 4: even if it's in the same weekend. But yeah, I
Speaker 4: would say like a new hour every year and a
Speaker 4: half is probably is the goal.
Speaker 1: And you've been to Cincinnati before, right, I mean, this
Speaker 1: isn't a virgin trip for you.
Speaker 4: In here, right, many times I did visit when it
Speaker 4: was a virgin I believe it or not. And when
Speaker 4: I yeah, I have definitely been to Cincinnati before before
Speaker 4: Guts Held, when I performed there, I'll be honest with you,
Speaker 4: no one else was there a lot of room to
Speaker 4: stretch out, a lot of emptycas But I've been back
Speaker 4: I think twice since guts Ald, and it has been
Speaker 4: it's one of the warmest welcomes I've ever received. This
Speaker 4: is not a joke. The first time I went to
Speaker 4: the Liberty Funnybone, it is not a joke at all,
Speaker 4: not a bit. I pulled up to the club and
Speaker 4: there's a huge line outside, and I go to the
Speaker 4: manager like, ah, man, what's going on tonight? What are
Speaker 4: we competing with? And he goes, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: Those people are there to see you? And I go, yeah,
Speaker 4: what everybody? I thought he was doing a bit. I
Speaker 4: thought I was joking that they were all there for
Speaker 4: my show. And so I have like a special place
Speaker 4: in my heart at that Liberty Funny One because it
Speaker 4: was the first place I was like, whoa, you're telling
Speaker 4: me people are really coming to actually see me. And so, yeah,
Speaker 4: I love Sincenty. I've probably been there, I'm not even
Speaker 4: kid like, maybe twenty times in the last you know,
Speaker 4: thirty years.
Speaker 1: But you don't get out right, I mean, you go
Speaker 1: to these towns and you do the show, you go back,
Speaker 1: you relax and whatnot. It's not like you go sight
Speaker 1: seeing it like for a two days stop here. You're
Speaker 1: not going to be out taking in the sits going
Speaker 1: to a ballgame or something like that.
Speaker 4: Right, you know, I do travel with my wife now
Speaker 4: and so she has been good at getting me to
Speaker 4: do a little more of the local stuff that is
Speaker 4: in each town. Like we don't get too crazy because
Speaker 4: we do get little hire for the shows that everywhere
Speaker 4: we go, we do try to do one thing. Would
Speaker 4: you have a recommendation for us on the thirtieth Cincinnati?
Speaker 4: Is there something you think people should do in Cincinnati
Speaker 4: where they live?
Speaker 1: Well, on January thirtieth, it would be an inside recreational thing.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend going outside to do anything on January
Speaker 1: the thirtieth in this town.
Speaker 4: But I mean, I, like you said, Skyline Chili. Is
Speaker 4: that Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's excellent, it really is, but you have to
Speaker 1: develop a taste for it. If you've never had it,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Okay, But there's also here's here's a
Speaker 1: pretty cool place. The Neon Sign Museum is in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: All these Neon signs. Yeah, yeah, right down to all right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: check that out, Check that out.
Speaker 4: Great, I'm going to mark that down.
Speaker 1: Write that down, man, and if you like it, you know,
Speaker 1: give me a shout out or something. What did Gutfeld
Speaker 1: discover you? Or did you discover Gutfeld so.
Speaker 4: Many years ago? There was a show called The Red
Speaker 4: Eye on Fox like three in the morning, and there's more.
Speaker 4: I had more like a cult following it. I just
Speaker 4: did a random audition at a club in New York
Speaker 4: City and as quick as I can, basically, I do
Speaker 4: my set at Golphin comments on. It goes pretty good.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like amazing, it wasn't awful. I was like,
Speaker 4: I felt like I was like middle of the road,
Speaker 4: not that. And afterwards, I go to the bar next
Speaker 4: door and this guy catched on the shoulder and he goes, hey, man,
Speaker 4: I'm great, gus Old you know I hosted. I go, oh,
Speaker 4: can I can I do your show? Was I funny enough?
Speaker 4: And he goes, man, I missed your set. I was
Speaker 4: taking a leak and I go.
Speaker 3: I go.
Speaker 4: I go, that's okay. Maybe I get auditions some other
Speaker 4: times and he goes no. He goes, I'm going to
Speaker 4: put you on the show, and I go, why are
Speaker 4: gonna put me on the show? Like you didn't even
Speaker 4: see my set? And he goes because people keep coming
Speaker 4: up to me telling me how funny I was tonight
Speaker 4: and he had kno been on stage. We were both
Speaker 4: wearing the same outfit and these dumb black glasses that
Speaker 4: everyone used to wear back then, and so people thought
Speaker 4: he was me and told him he was funny, and
Speaker 4: he goes, oh, that's good enough for me, And that's
Speaker 4: how I met great. They put me on. That's a
Speaker 4: true story.
Speaker 1: It's a great show when ever you're on. I've often
Speaker 1: wondered about this, So can I just can I take
Speaker 1: you from where we are right now to reality and
Speaker 1: suspend reality for a moment and go to a place
Speaker 1: that may not ever happen. Right we were about to
Speaker 1: be invaded by space aliens and they're coming to Earth,
Speaker 1: and the only thing that can that saves mankind would
Speaker 1: be to deliver the funniest joke ever. Who would be
Speaker 1: the candidate to deliver the funniest joke ever to save
Speaker 1: mankind from space aliens? Would it be Tom Shalou, Joe Mackei,
Speaker 1: or you?
Speaker 3: That is?
Speaker 4: That is a tough one. I feel like I would
Speaker 4: choose Tom Shalou if we felt like we had all
Speaker 4: lived long enough.
Speaker 1: I asked him the same question. Go with Mackie, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, I think you're underselling yourself there, Jamie.
Speaker 1: I think you're underselling.
Speaker 4: Yourself it'sry to put myself in that position for mankind.
Speaker 1: But you, but you could, but you could save humanity.
Speaker 1: So this is January the thirtieth and the thirty first
Speaker 1: end of the month at the Funny Bone, which is
Speaker 1: a great venue, it really is. And it looks like
Speaker 1: we're catching you maybe at the end of the tour.
Speaker 1: Are you just going to keep touring after that? I
Speaker 1: don't have anything on on my sheet here from January
Speaker 1: thirtieth on. Are you Are you still going to keep
Speaker 1: touring after this or are you going into retirement.
Speaker 4: The reason there's nothing in your sheet is that's when
Speaker 4: the aliens are coming and we're just waiting to see
Speaker 4: how that goes.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time here. I do I do.
Speaker 1: You know what I said at the beginning, that you
Speaker 1: are you are wildly entertaining.
Speaker 4: And I agreate.
Speaker 1: Man, it'd be a great night and a matinee anytime
Speaker 1: you can see Jamie liss out. Don't go run. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much, sir, and enjoy your time here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Ken, good talking to you. We're going to
Speaker 4: that Neon Shime Museum.
Speaker 1: Thanks.
Speaker 4: We'll calculate it there you go.
Speaker 2: Uh what?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: The American side. You, well, he'll figure it out. He'll
Speaker 1: figure it out. You google this stuff, it's up there.
Speaker 1: He is a funny dude. I don't know if bo
Speaker 1: News is something that you gravitate toward. I have no
Speaker 1: idea if you like what Gutfield does. But when he's
Speaker 1: on the show, it's very quick on his feet, very
Speaker 1: quick on his feet, and really really funny, does a
Speaker 1: lot of and clean. I mean you go to one
Speaker 1: of his shows, like at the Funny Bone, Clean and
Speaker 1: again he's there the thirtieth and the thirty first of
Speaker 1: this month. Good play to see comedians in a good
Speaker 1: place to get a laugh. We're coming up on one
Speaker 1: twenty six already National Championship tonight Miami and Indiana. We'll
Speaker 1: get into that in just a moment. It's the average
Speaker 1: American in for the Great American on this Monday, News
Speaker 1: Radio seven hundred w l W one nine News Radio
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW on this Monday, it's the average American
Speaker 1: in for the Great American. No seg today, that means
Speaker 1: no stooge report. Oh, I'll try to carry on here.
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills fired head coach to Sean McDermott, today
Speaker 1: after another season that failed to end in a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl appearance. But they've taken the guy that was the
Speaker 1: GM elevated him to president and so he is now
Speaker 1: the president.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think McDermott's going to find another gig. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so many gigs that are open right now. You
Speaker 1: would think, off the top of your head, maybe Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: although McDermott may come off a little soft for the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh crowd. I could see him going to Cleveland. Baltimore
Speaker 1: would have to be interested now, and maybe even a
Speaker 1: team like Miami, you know. I mean, he had some
Speaker 1: success in Buffalo during the regular season with Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: but his team, his teams couldn't get over the hump
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. They've got a new stadium that's up
Speaker 1: in Buffalo right now that's going to open next year,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure the owner wants new everything, and that stadium,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, is financed through not only public
Speaker 1: but private money. I think the family that owns the
Speaker 1: Bills is the Pagoula family. They also own the hockey
Speaker 1: team in that town. They put up one point two
Speaker 1: to five billion to help finance that stadium. The state,
Speaker 1: I guess kicked in like eight hundred and fifty million,
Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm sure he wanted the owner wanted a
Speaker 1: fresh start, but they seem to have thrown the baby
Speaker 1: out with the bathwater on that one. And already you're
Speaker 1: seeing some blowback from current Bills players. They're saying this
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. But nevertheless, Buffalo is now on
Speaker 1: the list of teams that are looking for a new
Speaker 1: head coach, and Zach Tanner remains the last man standing
Speaker 1: in the AFC North. Tonight is Championship Night in college
Speaker 1: football Indiana Miami. They're playing it real close to the
Speaker 1: University of Miami's campus, although the price is down there
Speaker 1: for these tickets are so high that it probably is
Speaker 1: going to be more of a fifty to fifty split
Speaker 1: in that crowd and not just necessarily all Miami. And
Speaker 1: the other thing that's going on here too is Indiana's
Speaker 1: Somebody asked Kurt Signetti at the media day the other
Speaker 1: day what it's fair to be to call Indiana University
Speaker 1: and what has transpired there this season a Cinderella story.
Speaker 1: Here's what the Indiana head coach said.
Speaker 9: Well, I think that's a fact. If you look at
Speaker 9: the record since Indiana started playing football and relative to
Speaker 9: the success we've had the last two years, we've broken
Speaker 9: a lot of records here in terms of wins, championships,
Speaker 9: postseason games, top ten wins on the road, et cetera,
Speaker 9: top ten wins period and so you know, it's been
Speaker 9: kind of surreal. Uh but you know, you get it
Speaker 9: done with the right people, properly led, and you gotta
Speaker 9: have a blueprint plan, uh process. You gotta have the
Speaker 9: right people on your staff and the right people in
Speaker 9: the walker room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta have Fernando Mendoza. That hasn't hurt. Heisman
Speaker 1: Trophy winner. He of course grew up in Miami, so
Speaker 1: this is a homecoming of sorts for him. He was
Speaker 1: talking about that just late last week.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I would say the meaning it means so much
Speaker 10: to myself and my family having growing up in Miami,
Speaker 10: growing up a University of Miami fan, and basically whole
Speaker 10: identity being, you know, a Cuban living in Miami whose grandparents,
Speaker 10: all four grandparents, you know, immigrated from Cuba to Miami,
Speaker 10: made their way, had the American dream. And you know,
Speaker 10: I've been so thankful to them and thankful to God
Speaker 10: I've been able to you know, have a good you know,
Speaker 10: childhood and them raising me by accomplishing the American dream.
Speaker 10: And I think it just means so much to my family,
Speaker 10: as you know, playing in Miami against the University of Miami.
Speaker 1: You know, the kind of the journey.
Speaker 10: It's kind of like a full circle moment, but also
Speaker 10: means a lots of a lot of my teammates and
Speaker 10: coaches and also everybody in Who's Your Nation just because
Speaker 10: it is the national championship.
Speaker 1: Jack Pose joins us here now on seven hundred wylw.
Speaker 1: He covers the Indiana Who's Yours for? I think a
Speaker 1: terrific website when it comes to Indiana athletics, more basketball
Speaker 1: centric maybe than football, but I think that's about to change.
Speaker 1: And I guess you know, when you look at at Mendoza,
Speaker 1: he's he's nothing but efficient at quarterback. That's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why he and they are so successful.
Speaker 6: Is that fair to say, oh, one hundred percent, I'd
Speaker 6: agree it really is. Ken every single week that he's efficient.
Speaker 6: I can count more times than not that he's had
Speaker 6: more touchdown passes that he's had Incompletioncy that I think
Speaker 6: thirty one of thirty six in these last two games
Speaker 6: with eight touchdowns. That is incredibly efficient. He has some
Speaker 6: great throws and there's just no duds. He'll always find
Speaker 6: his receiver, and even his dad throws, even those zero
Speaker 6: yard games look like NFL throws because he goes through
Speaker 6: his progressions. He's a pro style quarterback. He can run
Speaker 6: a little bit, and he is just a steady presence
Speaker 6: for a steady offense that is just high powered as
Speaker 6: we've seen these last filt let's say, fifteen games.
Speaker 1: He also is somebody that has commanded the field. Look,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of quarterbacks, as you well know,
Speaker 1: in college football, there's system quarterbacks. They get the team
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage and the first thing they
Speaker 1: do is look over to the sideline to see what
Speaker 1: play is being called, and that day, in essence, become
Speaker 1: a robot. Certainly the players are coming in from the sideline.
Speaker 1: He's not up there freelancing. But I get the sense
Speaker 1: that when a play starts to break down, when that
Speaker 1: call from the sideline or from the box isn't exactly right.
Speaker 1: Get the sense with him, he's not flustered, and he
Speaker 1: understands exactly what his options are. He sees the field,
Speaker 1: he commands the field. I think so well, does that come,
Speaker 1: in your opinion, from maturity, the fact that he is
Speaker 1: older and he's not some seventeen eighteen year old kid
Speaker 1: that's out there trying to make an offense go, or
Speaker 1: does that come from someplace else?
Speaker 6: I really think he's just a mature quarterback, is very smart.
Speaker 6: He's someone that idolizes Tom Brady, and realistically he is
Speaker 6: kind of that Tom Brady sensive. He can read the
Speaker 6: field like no tomorrow. In about a second and a half,
Speaker 6: he'll go through his progressions. He knows where he wants
Speaker 6: to go. If that's not open, he'll go. He can
Speaker 6: read the defense just about as good as anybody I've
Speaker 6: ever seen, both high school, college and pro. And maybe
Speaker 6: I hadn't been around as long as some other people,
Speaker 6: but he probably is the best quarterback in just seeing
Speaker 6: the field and knowing and going through hiss. And they're
Speaker 6: not really a checkout able team with Kurt Signetti. So
Speaker 6: maybe it is the play calling and Mike chen Hans
Speaker 6: done a really good job the offensive coordinator. But when
Speaker 6: you have a guy like Bernana Mendoza, Your playbook opens
Speaker 6: more because of just how mature he is.
Speaker 1: Just a little bit about the defense. They have got
Speaker 1: some obviously some terrific players. Aiden Fisher, the senior transfer,
Speaker 1: he's the mic, he's the middle linebacker. Absolutely, just terrific.
Speaker 1: A little bit about him because he seems to be
Speaker 1: the heart and soul of that Indiana defense. What's what's
Speaker 1: his story? How has he progressed this year? For those
Speaker 1: that might not have seen all of the Indiana.
Speaker 6: Games, he went from all Big ten to all Americans
Speaker 6: in my opinion this year. Ken he is the he's
Speaker 6: the vocal leader off the field too, but he he
Speaker 6: wears the coach to player dot. So everybody trusts Aiden
Speaker 6: Fisher and he leads the team in total tackles the
Speaker 6: other night with nine. But it's the guys that surround
Speaker 6: him that make him so good. He they trust their captain,
Speaker 6: they trust him, they look to him for every single play.
Speaker 6: And there's a reason for it because he's earned that spot.
Speaker 6: He's in his fourth year with Kurtzaghetti and defensive coordinator
Speaker 6: Bryant Hayines Aidane Fisher is one of those guys that
Speaker 6: he just keeps progressing. He keeps improving his draft stock,
Speaker 6: but he's not doing it for himself. He does it
Speaker 6: for his team, and that's why he's so good.
Speaker 1: I watched, obviously, the Ohio State game championship game, and
Speaker 1: the defense was terrific. And so was a player in
Speaker 1: that game that I want to give a little bit
Speaker 1: of attention to, and that was Isaiah Jones, who's an
Speaker 1: Ohio guy. He's from right up the road between here
Speaker 1: and Columbus London, Ohio had terrific game against Ohio State.
Speaker 1: I'll watch him even in games where you look at
Speaker 1: the numbers and you say to yourself, well, okay, I
Speaker 1: don't see the numbers, but a boy, did I see
Speaker 1: him flying around? The UCLA game comes immediately to mind
Speaker 1: a little bit about Isaiah Jones because it seems to
Speaker 1: me that he doesn't really get the attention I think
Speaker 1: he deserves. Do you feel that as well?
Speaker 6: I think that him nor Elijah Hardy, the other linebacker,
Speaker 6: get the attention they deserve. Everything really goes to Ayden
Speaker 6: Fisher deservingly, should I say, But Isaiah Jones and Elijah
Speaker 6: Hardy make this defense go Indiana. Brian Haines just runs
Speaker 6: some incredible skime. He schemes incredible blitzes. He puts Jones
Speaker 6: and Hardy in in great positions to succeed. But he
Speaker 6: flies all over the place, does Isaiah Jones. He he's
Speaker 6: someone that goes under the radar, but as soon as
Speaker 6: you see him coming off the edge, it's it's game
Speaker 6: over if he gets around that offensive lineman or whoever is
Speaker 6: going to attempt to block me. Five tackles for loss
Speaker 6: is the other day, and the sacks might not come
Speaker 6: in in Indiana really only had three, and two of
Speaker 6: them came from Daniel and Dukeway. But it starts with
Speaker 6: that trio of linebackers with Fisher, with Joanes and with
Speaker 6: Elijah Hardy. So he's one of those guys that he
Speaker 6: stuck around after Tom Allen was tired. He begged to
Speaker 6: get on to the roster under Kurtzignetti.
Speaker 4: And Bryan Taydes. And he's really.
Speaker 6: Done a fantastic job. Might not have done a whole
Speaker 6: lot last year, but he has just gotten better, even
Speaker 6: more so than Aiden. Fisher just keeps getting better and
Speaker 6: he's really he's only a junior. He'll be back next
Speaker 6: year and he'll likely be taking that Aiden fisher role.
Speaker 1: All right, we're chatting with Josh Poe's Inside the Hall
Speaker 1: dot com, great destination for all things i U athletics.
Speaker 1: All right, here comes Miami. It's a home game for Miami.
Speaker 1: As you look at that game, what do you think
Speaker 1: Miami does? That presents the biggest problem for Indiana either
Speaker 1: side of the ball.
Speaker 6: It has to be their defense. Can they Ruben Bain
Speaker 6: Junior is one of the best defensive linemen I have
Speaker 6: seen in college football. That defensive front scares me the most.
Speaker 6: But if you look at Indiana's offensive line, they've had
Speaker 6: a couple of hiccups in games, but they seem to
Speaker 6: patch it up. So it really boils down to the
Speaker 6: trenches as it does in most college football games at
Speaker 6: this point. But I think if the defensive line play
Speaker 6: for Miami shows up, then we're going to have a really, really,
Speaker 6: really good game.
Speaker 1: Let's flip that just a little bit. Because Malachai Tony
Speaker 1: is the big target for Beck's got nine touchdown passes. CJ.
Speaker 1: Daniels is terrific as well, He's got seven. He put
Speaker 1: in Keelan Marion who has seven, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you've got a trio of receivers that Carson Beck and
Speaker 1: throw to. And then of course you have Mark Fletcher.
Speaker 1: Fletcher is he'll probably finish this year somewhere north of
Speaker 1: eleven hundred and fifty yards. He's their go to guy
Speaker 1: and me he's averaging five four or five five per
Speaker 1: game per carry, and he's the guy that go to
Speaker 1: when they want to run, and they want to run
Speaker 1: and they want to get the ball in the end
Speaker 1: zone running. So I'm just wondering, from an offensive standpoint
Speaker 1: against that Indiana defense, which has played very, very well,
Speaker 1: how do you see that scenario playing out.
Speaker 6: I think it's going to be fascinating. You always see
Speaker 6: this time of your team, unless it's a rematch. You here, Oh,
Speaker 6: Miami's never seen a team like Indiana, or Indiana has
Speaker 6: never seen an offense like Miami. I think that Miami's
Speaker 6: really hot right now. They're very streaky. I mean, Carson
Speaker 6: Beck has been up and down in the in the
Speaker 6: two losses this year, he's been he's been strugglings. He's
Speaker 6: backed up right now. Malachai Tony, you talk about Carson
Speaker 6: Beck being forty something years old, Tony just turned eighteen
Speaker 6: a couple months ago, so he was impressive. I think
Speaker 6: this Indiana defense, if you give Kurt Signetti and Bryant
Speaker 6: Haynes time to prepare, they will know everything that you
Speaker 6: do and everything that you'll run. I think that Miami's
Speaker 6: offense plays really hard, really quick, like you said, but
Speaker 6: it's up to Indiana's defense. They've been able to control
Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage. They've been able to control well,
Speaker 6: everything in front of them. They don't get beat deep.
Speaker 6: That was a little bit of an issue early in
Speaker 6: the season. They gave up a seventy five years touchdown
Speaker 6: on the first play of their season, mind you, and
Speaker 6: then a big one against Illinois. But that doesn't happen anymore.
Speaker 6: They've got the guys. So I think this could be
Speaker 6: a low scoring game, at least for Miami.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh pose inside Thehall dot Com, as he wrote
Speaker 1: in his game story, making history is all Indiana knows
Speaker 1: right now. The Hoosiers, I'm not reciting Othello to Shakespeare here, Josh,
Speaker 1: so just don't get too wrapped up in what I'm
Speaker 1: doing here. But the Hoosiers, he said, became the first
Speaker 1: team since eighteen ninety six to score fifty five points
Speaker 1: or more and win by thirty points or more in
Speaker 1: seven different games in a single season, two of which
Speaker 1: came against top ten opponents. That's just how good it
Speaker 1: is right now at Indiana and for an IU football fan.
Speaker 1: All right, Josh, I'll be looking to see what you're
Speaker 1: right from today on out. But for your time today,
Speaker 1: thank you and good luck. Enjoy the game, Okay, thanks, Jed.
Speaker 1: I will yeah, seven and a half points. That's the
Speaker 1: current spread I'm looking at here. It is Miami plus
Speaker 1: seven and a half. I think Indiana covers. I think
Speaker 1: Indiana wins this game handily. No disrespect to the you.
Speaker 1: I just think the ad is just stronger on all
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. We'll see. That's why they play
Speaker 1: the games. It's one fifty four straight ahead. Red flags.
Speaker 1: Red flags in the hiring process, jobs are tough to
Speaker 1: come by, and if they are, and if you're interviewing,
Speaker 1: avoid this when you're trying to get hired. We'll get
Speaker 1: into that at two o'clock. Then down the road. This
Speaker 1: is the this is the bluest day of the year
Speaker 1: emotionally for people. Why is that. We'll get into that
Speaker 1: as well. It's the average American in for the great
Speaker 1: American glad you're a long two on seven hundred w
Speaker 1: l W. All Right off we go on hour number
Speaker 1: three to all eight here in the tri State, bracing
Speaker 1: for what could be Isa Geddon. It's gonna be cold
Speaker 1: tonight and it looks like there might be some some snow.
Speaker 1: Lare in looking at some of the national models. No, no,
Speaker 1: not those models, just the you know, the weather stuff.
Speaker 1: Looks like it could be an adventurous weekend coming up. Nevertheless,
Speaker 1: here we are back again, the average American in for
Speaker 1: the great American. If you're looking for a job, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not an easy thing to do. Well, it's easy,
Speaker 1: I guess to look, it's not an easy thing to
Speaker 1: land a job. I mean, just look at the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five stats. In calendar year twenty twenty five, this,
Speaker 1: according to the government, about five hundred and eighty four
Speaker 1: thousand jobs were added. You say, Ken, that sounds like
Speaker 1: a lot. No, it was one of the weakest years
Speaker 1: for job growth since the pandemic. That's about forty nine
Speaker 1: thousand jobs per month, far less than the two million
Speaker 1: jobs that were added in the final year of Joe
Speaker 1: Biden's administration. Joe Biden two million jobs added. Now, again
Speaker 1: we can quibble on the numbers and what those jobs
Speaker 1: were and why those jobs were added, because a lot
Speaker 1: of companies were back on their feet. They had let
Speaker 1: people go or they shut down certain operations during COVID,
Speaker 1: and they had a higher back up to get back
Speaker 1: on their feet. But by and large, it was not
Speaker 1: a good year for jobs in this country. And so
Speaker 1: now here you may be in twenty twenty six thinking
Speaker 1: I'd like to maybe enhance myself here. I'd like maybe
Speaker 1: to make a little bit more money, work at a
Speaker 1: place that's more tailored towards me. Four point four percent
Speaker 1: of the population is out of work. That's about seven
Speaker 1: and a half million people. The biggest demographic that's out
Speaker 1: of work are teens. About sixteen percent of the I
Speaker 1: guess employee eligible teens are out of work. So if
Speaker 1: you're out there and you're looking for a job, there
Speaker 1: are a few do's and don'ts. They're the obvious ones,
Speaker 1: and that is, you know, if you go to a
Speaker 1: job interview, dress appropriately, if you're doing it by zoom,
Speaker 1: don't have like your garage in the background own And
Speaker 1: if you are interviewing for a job. According to the CEO,
Speaker 1: of ballin branch, balling branches, I guess a Lenen company,
Speaker 1: betting and things like that. According to CEO Scott Tennan,
Speaker 1: about two hundred and seventy five employees in his company,
Speaker 1: and he says he's interviewed upwards of a thousand people
Speaker 1: and hired four to five hundred over the course of
Speaker 1: bull and Branch existence. And he says, whatever he's interviewing someone,
Speaker 1: whether it's an intern or maybe somebody for the C suite,
Speaker 1: Scott Tennant says, make sure to ask one question, what
Speaker 1: do you know about ballin branch, And if the prospective
Speaker 1: employee can't answer that, they don't get hired. It would
Speaker 1: be I would think the same way for every single company.
Speaker 1: Do a little research or you might be left at
Speaker 1: the post. Somebody who knows that is my next guest,
Speaker 1: David Cathy's been on my show many many times. He's
Speaker 1: a hiring expert, and that's because he's a part partner
Speaker 1: in a business called Unity Search Group. It's one of
Speaker 1: the top recruiting companies in the country. And there are
Speaker 1: some really big dues and don'ts that people aren't following,
Speaker 1: and that might be a reason why you may lose
Speaker 1: out on a job in twenty twenty six. Let's bring
Speaker 1: them on in. David, Kathy, how are you on this
Speaker 1: glorious Monday.
Speaker 5: We are doing fantastic ken, just a fantastic, great time
Speaker 5: of year.
Speaker 1: Oh, it is a great time of the year, really
Speaker 1: and truly, you know, you get to be our age, David.
Speaker 1: There's really not a bad time of the year, right
Speaker 1: who we're here?
Speaker 4: Oh, that is true.
Speaker 1: I found this article interesting. Red flags and hiring. The
Speaker 1: hiring process is an awkward process. I know, more so
Speaker 1: perhaps for the interview e than the interviewer. But there
Speaker 1: are some things if you're going on a job interview,
Speaker 1: they just seem like common sense, but yet it's people
Speaker 1: violate these unspoken truths about interviewing. Number one I think
Speaker 1: is how you dress. I mean, don't look like you're
Speaker 1: going out to run a marathon or something like that.
Speaker 1: Put some good clothes on, right.
Speaker 5: And I mean how you dress.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: Well, there's two components here. Number one, you've got to
Speaker 5: try to figure out how if you can dress a
Speaker 5: notch above the interviewer. So how do you do that? Well,
Speaker 5: do your research, try to figure out what the environment's like, there.
Speaker 5: If it's a business casual dress business. The trickier part
Speaker 5: now is zoom interviews interviews on teams, because that's more relaxed,
Speaker 5: and you might be sitting at your home office or
Speaker 5: desk or kitchen table. Who knows you have a tendency
Speaker 5: to be more relaxed and you have a tendency to
Speaker 5: dress down, and that is an absolute trap and you've
Speaker 5: got to take it through. This is a this is
Speaker 5: a job interview for goodness sake, right, we've got to
Speaker 5: take this serious, right.
Speaker 1: So dress up from from But if the company is business,
Speaker 1: that does not necessarily mean you should put on formal hire,
Speaker 1: right You don't need to walk in in a tucks
Speaker 1: and a bow.
Speaker 5: Tie, no, no, absolutely not. You kind of got to
Speaker 5: know what your company is in, right, So if they're
Speaker 5: in a investment banking or maybe some private equity firms,
Speaker 5: they're probably going to be in a suit, so you
Speaker 5: would wear If the company is a manufacturing company, which
Speaker 5: is jeans and a polo, often, well you're probably in
Speaker 5: maybe a nice polo or button up shirt and some takis.
Speaker 5: You're just trying to take it up at least one
Speaker 5: notch sure from what the company.
Speaker 1: Is, and we're talking about research. Know what you're walking into.
Speaker 1: You should know a little bit certainly about the environment.
Speaker 1: You should know as much as you can about the
Speaker 1: company you're interviewing with. I think one of the mistakes
Speaker 1: a lot of people do is they walk in and
Speaker 1: they try to sell themselves, but they wind up not
Speaker 1: selling their knowledge of what the company is all about,
Speaker 1: and it becomes basically interview X. It could fit anywhere
Speaker 1: for the INTERVIEWE. You need to be a little more
Speaker 1: specific in what you're talking about when you're sitting across
Speaker 1: from the person that either as a manager or owns
Speaker 1: the place. Put a little effort into where you're going
Speaker 1: to or you hope to go to work.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: You could not be more correct. And this one boggles
Speaker 5: my mind. So do the research, and not just the
Speaker 5: superficial research.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: I mean you can go online and you can search
Speaker 5: for maybe a couple of minutes and pull out a
Speaker 5: couple of things that can be very superficial. I'm going
Speaker 5: to give you an example. We're going to take a
Speaker 5: publicly traded and a non publicly traded company. If I'm
Speaker 5: going to go into a company and they say, hey, David,
Speaker 5: you know tell us a little bit what you've learned
Speaker 5: about our organization? Am I going to answer, Well, I
Speaker 5: know that y'all are publicly traded Like that is so superficial.
Speaker 5: I'm going to drive more into details. And here's a
Speaker 5: couple of easily easy hacks for people. Go to the
Speaker 5: about us section of their website, where it talks about
Speaker 5: largely the organization, the story of the organization. Go to
Speaker 5: the product. Make sure you understand and look and know
Speaker 5: those products, specially if it's consumer products, because that may
Speaker 5: be sitting in your bathroom or in your kitchen. Sure,
Speaker 5: and you want to refer to that in the interview.
Speaker 5: You know, oh, I've realized that. You know, you may
Speaker 5: manufacture dice in vacuums. I actually have used that all
Speaker 5: the time. My mom, in fact, loves them. And then
Speaker 5: you can kind of go down and tell a personal
Speaker 5: story that relates to it.
Speaker 1: Sure zoom makes everything a little more difficult. It's there's
Speaker 1: no nuance to it. It's a two dimensional kind of
Speaker 1: an interview. But I'm reading here where it only takes
Speaker 1: about ninety seconds for an interviewer to decide whether or
Speaker 1: not to hire you, which means you'd better come out
Speaker 1: of the gate, ready to go. But you can oversell
Speaker 1: it too. I mean, there's a fine line that works
Speaker 1: there is they're not.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 5: There is a fine line in everything that we do,
Speaker 5: especially when you're interviewing, because that's an important component. And yeah,
Speaker 5: I think there are times, especially in Zoom, where there
Speaker 5: are some basics you need to do. You need to smile,
Speaker 5: you need to have a clear background or a good
Speaker 5: background on your Zoom can. One time we had a
Speaker 5: guy interview at a client and he decided to interview
Speaker 5: in front of his liquor cabinet, and so behind him
Speaker 5: is all of his liquor. That is not something that
Speaker 5: you should be doing. So check your surroundings, check what
Speaker 5: you're wearing. And here's a tricky, tricky one that I
Speaker 5: always advise people it's really hard to do. Is that
Speaker 5: if you're looking at the screen you want to come
Speaker 5: across as you're making eye contact on Zoom, well, that
Speaker 5: means that you're looking at that little tiny dot at
Speaker 5: the top of your monitor. That doesn't mean that you're
Speaker 5: looking at the screen, And so you need to spend
Speaker 5: as much time as you can looking at that dot
Speaker 5: because the receiver thinks you are looking at them in
Speaker 5: their eye and eye contact is such a critical component
Speaker 5: of interviewing, sure is.
Speaker 1: And you know, even if you don't have a place
Speaker 1: to do zoom that's clean or appealing to the eye,
Speaker 1: you can download backgrounds for zoom. You know, I would
Speaker 1: not necessarily, you know, put myself in a position where
Speaker 1: I'm standing in front of the Eiffel Tower or anything
Speaker 1: like that. But I mean, if you absolutely have to,
Speaker 1: you can get backgrounds for zooms now. And I've done
Speaker 1: that a great times.
Speaker 5: You know, great recommendation can great recommendation, and there's a
Speaker 5: lot of everything out Here's the other thing, real quick,
Speaker 5: if I would add this is okay, we are in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five. Largely the world has been some component
Speaker 5: of remote since COVID twenty twenty. Whether you are currently
Speaker 5: remote or not, there was some component of working remote.
Speaker 5: So please know how teams or zoom works. You don't
Speaker 5: want to provide the feedback at this point in time
Speaker 5: to the interviewer. Sorry, I was five or ten. I
Speaker 5: couldn't get scenes or Zoom or whatever device you're on
Speaker 5: to actually work. It's one of my first times using it.
Speaker 1: This may sound like I'm trying to damn an entire generation.
Speaker 1: But when gen Zers interact, they don't always look at you.
Speaker 1: They kind of look past you. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: a blank stare. And I don't know if that's because
Speaker 1: they live most of their lives on devices and most
Speaker 1: of their interaction is done in characters as opposed to
Speaker 1: the spoken word. But practice talk to your mom, talk
Speaker 1: to your dad, put them in front of you or whatever.
Speaker 1: But at least get to a point where you have
Speaker 1: some expression and some interest.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Ken, I mean, I'm going to give you some
Speaker 5: quick hits, real quick, especially for I hate to say
Speaker 5: it too, maybe that generation that Hey, look, I'm gen
Speaker 5: X and we don't have everything right. We've got a
Speaker 5: lot of things right, but we certainly don't have everything right.
Speaker 5: Practicing practice in a mirror. If you don't have, if
Speaker 5: you live by yourself, practice practice with your pet. But
Speaker 5: just rehearse before you go into the interview. Pull the
Speaker 5: visor down on your car, get into the parking lot
Speaker 5: fifteen minutes early, pull the visor down on your car,
Speaker 5: and just go through what your intro is going to be.
Speaker 5: When you say hi and a smile. A couple of
Speaker 5: things I would not do. I would not have my
Speaker 5: first question be about maternity leave or PTO or benefits
Speaker 5: or what does this position pay? That is a huge no, no.
Speaker 5: One other thing that I would mention along those lines,
Speaker 5: And you know, kind of with that practice is you
Speaker 5: have to have the ability to articulate in detail what
Speaker 5: your experience is and how that applies to this role.
Speaker 5: The yes knows questions add content something that the interviewer
Speaker 5: can sink their piece into, so they walk away from
Speaker 5: that meeting going, man, some really knows their stuff, and
Speaker 5: I can see why they would be a good fit
Speaker 5: for this position instead of just one line answers, which
Speaker 5: to the point that you were making. For the generation
Speaker 5: that we've been talking about here, when they do interact
Speaker 5: often it can be very short, punchy answers. Well, you
Speaker 5: want to elaborate on why this interviewer would be crazy
Speaker 5: to not get you a second round interview or the job.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And whatever you do, don't bring your mom
Speaker 1: or your dad to the interview. Did you see that story?
Speaker 1: What about a year ago, forty percent of gen Zers
Speaker 1: brought a parent to a job interview. I wouldn't even
Speaker 1: bring that that interview. I wouldn't bring them into my office,
Speaker 1: I'd say go home with mommy. I can't believe people
Speaker 1: do that. What you probably saw the same thing, right.
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean we've we've seen that. We've seen mom
Speaker 5: and dad driving them to the interview. We've had parents,
Speaker 5: you know, we're recruiting in a stack. We've had mom
Speaker 5: and dad walk into our office with their son or
Speaker 5: daughter to help them meet with us to get a job.
Speaker 5: Like these are some things that you know you're a professional,
Speaker 5: and companies want the best people. It is incredibly competitive
Speaker 5: in the job market. And also just don't this isn't
Speaker 5: about just getting a job. You need to demonstrate that
Speaker 5: you want this for your career. Jobs come and go,
Speaker 5: careers stay, and so you really need to think through
Speaker 5: and be able to answer the question not just do
Speaker 5: I want this job, but how are you presenting yourself
Speaker 5: that you want this as your career and how you
Speaker 5: are going to develop. And I want to go back
Speaker 5: to one point that you had said earlier when you
Speaker 5: were talking about the younger generation. Here I am picking
Speaker 5: on them again. We really got to stop this. You know,
Speaker 5: everything is shortened, everything is in reels or shorts, our twenty.
Speaker 11: Second clips and maintaining attention in an view is incredibly important.
Speaker 11: Maintaining attention because when you do not maintain attention, you
Speaker 11: come across as distracted. What that looks like is I'm
Speaker 11: maintaining good eye contact. Maybe I'm even taking notes on
Speaker 11: what they are saying. And by the way, if you're
Speaker 11: on a zoom interview and you're typing notes, I would
Speaker 11: suggest writing notes because if you're typing and off to
Speaker 11: the side, even though you may be taking notes to
Speaker 11: the person on the other end of the screen, it
Speaker 11: comes across as this person's getting the answers on chat,
Speaker 11: GPT or they're completely distracted.
Speaker 5: So back to maintaining interest and attention. It's the I contact,
Speaker 5: it's taking notes, it's sitting up in your chair. These
Speaker 5: are all these little visual nodding your head. There are
Speaker 5: visual and verbal cues that allow you to maintain interests
Speaker 5: that come across positively to the interviewer.
Speaker 1: Sure, and smile a little bit, and for what, for
Speaker 1: God's sake, don't play with your hair. That's the other
Speaker 1: thing I would do. I would tell them don't play
Speaker 1: with your hair. Uh, David, this is good stuff. David
Speaker 1: Kathy Again, he is with the Unity search group. You
Speaker 1: can find them at unitysearch dot com and he has
Speaker 1: been there a very long time. It's one of the
Speaker 1: top recruiting country companies in the country. All right, David,
Speaker 1: we appreciate your time here.
Speaker 5: You bet sen always good talking to you.
Speaker 1: Yep, you bet Yeah, don't play with your hair. If
Speaker 1: it's zoom, look into the camera. We'll look at the screen.
Speaker 1: Look into the camera that's right there. And then when
Speaker 1: you go in, if you're lucky enough to get in
Speaker 1: for an in person interview, you got to know something
Speaker 1: about the company going in. It's not hard. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, figure out what the job is, what the
Speaker 1: what the the the rudiments of that job entail, and
Speaker 1: what the company does and how it's done. It's it
Speaker 1: made a lot of money. It's it had rough time
Speaker 1: times lately. But I think the thing he said initially
Speaker 1: was fascinating. Find out who's doing the interview and how
Speaker 1: they dress, and then dress accordingly. If they dress in
Speaker 1: a suit coat and tie, or if it's a female
Speaker 1: interviewer and she's in address, then you wear a suit
Speaker 1: coat and tie if you were a male candidate, or
Speaker 1: a dress if you're a woman candidate. I mean, this
Speaker 1: stuff is not tough to figure out, but apparently people
Speaker 1: just aren't accustomed to in person interviews anymore. Is that
Speaker 1: your fault. No, not necessarily, but it doesn't mean you're
Speaker 1: not going to get tagged with the responsibility to twenty five.
Speaker 1: On this Monday afternoon, Martin Luther King Junior Day, we
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. We again as we began
Speaker 1: the show by extending our thoughts about MLK Jr. On
Speaker 1: this day, just a great man of man of vision,
Speaker 1: man of compassion, man left this earth part too early.
Speaker 1: And I hope if you have the day off, that
Speaker 1: you're utilizing it wisely when we come back. For most
Speaker 1: despite being a holiday, today is the bluest day of
Speaker 1: the year, Blue Monday. Why is that standing by someone
Speaker 1: who not only knows what you can do about it?
Speaker 1: Way do you hear what he's up to at the
Speaker 1: end of this month? If you want to talk about
Speaker 1: a challenge, we'll continue next on seven hundred WLW June
Speaker 1: thirty eight. On this Monday, welcome back the average American
Speaker 1: in for the great American and thrill that you're with us.
Speaker 1: You know, today's a tough day for some people. Apparently
Speaker 1: this is Blue Monday that is a phrase that was
Speaker 1: coined gosh, about twenty years ago by a psychologist by
Speaker 1: the name of Cliff Arnil R. Now, it's normally the
Speaker 1: third Monday of the year, and it, I guess, is
Speaker 1: a conglomeration of weather data, the debt you might have
Speaker 1: accrued because of the holidays, the time that has passed
Speaker 1: since the holidays, and then of course the New year's
Speaker 1: resolutions that you never follow anyway. So it's probably more
Speaker 1: like blue season, just not blue Monday. And for some
Speaker 1: people it's very real. Some people suffer from something called
Speaker 1: seasonal effective disorder SAD, which is a type of depression
Speaker 1: triggered by seasonal changes. So if you're feeling a little
Speaker 1: down today, you're not alone. If you're in the middle
Speaker 1: of January and you just feel down because of that,
Speaker 1: you're not alone. And my gosh, here comes snow this
Speaker 1: coming weekend, and here come wind chills tonight that are
Speaker 1: going to make it feel bitterly cold. It's not something
Speaker 1: that's atypical. But once you're in it, how to get
Speaker 1: out of it? Well, now, maybe somebody that can help.
Speaker 1: Bal Josie is somewhat of an athlete, In fact, a
Speaker 1: great athlete we'll talk about in just a second. He's
Speaker 1: also a positive mindset expert, and who doesn't want somebody
Speaker 1: like that in their lives? So let's welcome in on
Speaker 1: this blue Monday, and Val Josie, how are you on
Speaker 1: this glorious day?
Speaker 8: Very well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: So what is a positive mindset expert? Explain that and
Speaker 1: tell me why I need one of those in my life.
Speaker 8: I don't think anyone need an expert on positive mindset.
Speaker 4: It's something that you do.
Speaker 5: So a lot of people.
Speaker 8: Mistaken with the positive mindset is with something pretending to
Speaker 8: be everything is great. There's no stress, ignoring stress, or
Speaker 8: forcing yourself to smile through the pain. That is not
Speaker 8: a positive mindset. What positive mindset is, it's just you
Speaker 8: accept the reality as it is. You control what you can,
Speaker 8: and you take responsibility for your next step.
Speaker 4: It's about direction, not denial. So if you are trying.
Speaker 8: To find an aspiration, perhaps let's look down and find
Speaker 8: courage and strength to do the hard things.
Speaker 1: Sure well, there are always people who view the proverbial
Speaker 1: glass of water half full, or those that view it
Speaker 1: half empty. You said, positive mindset is it's a matter
Speaker 1: of looking at things. But I mean, some people in
Speaker 1: this world and they've had a lot of things thrown
Speaker 1: at them, from a financial, from a medical, from a
Speaker 1: personal standpoint, and so they get up in the morning
Speaker 1: and things aren't really going all their way. It's a
Speaker 1: little difficult, don't you think for some people to have
Speaker 1: that mindset you're talking about.
Speaker 8: Absolutely But if you find a little clarity in our thinking,
Speaker 8: let's just say, positive thinking does not make harder things easy.
Speaker 8: It doesn't remove the challenges that we face.
Speaker 5: What it does is it gives strength.
Speaker 8: To move through them. And when your mind says this
Speaker 8: is too much, I cannot bear this, I cannot handle this,
Speaker 8: but the positive thinking says, well, let's just take one
Speaker 8: more step.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 4: Just one more step, one more mile, just one more day.
Speaker 1: Yeah. In other words, if you're you know, you're in
Speaker 1: bed and things are you know, the world is tilted
Speaker 1: against you, first step is get the hell out of bed, right.
Speaker 8: And that is absolutely correct.
Speaker 4: Yes, move.
Speaker 8: I think it has the magical power to change our mindset.
Speaker 4: Just get out of the house.
Speaker 8: Just move for five minutes, ten minutes, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Do you do you subscribe to this theory that seasonal
Speaker 1: effective disorder is real and that some people actually suffer
Speaker 1: from that.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, it is real. In fact, there's a reason why
Speaker 8: it is real. So, first of all, the holiday's excitements
Speaker 8: are over, you know, Thanksgiving to Christmas to New Year,
Speaker 8: that is over now. If you remember, we, most of us,
Speaker 8: we made a lot of resolutions during during the New Year,
Speaker 8: and now we are finding the reality it's much harder
Speaker 8: than we thought it's going to be, so that is
Speaker 8: fading away as well. And then also the winter's days
Speaker 8: are long, and it's dark and it's cold.
Speaker 4: People don't want to.
Speaker 8: Go outside, so by physically, emotionally, and financially, it's a
Speaker 8: challenging period for everyone being will start to show up.
Speaker 8: All the spending, that's spending that we have done in
Speaker 8: the last few weeks or towards the end of the
Speaker 8: year or beginning of the year, they starting to show up.
Speaker 8: So life gets real. And when that happens, we could
Speaker 8: feel overwhelmed.
Speaker 4: That's very normal to feel that way.
Speaker 1: Well, we've got a little bit of sunlight here in
Speaker 1: Cincinnati today. We're going to have some tomorrow too, But
Speaker 1: by and large, from the start of December until about
Speaker 1: the beginning of April, the sun is only a rumor
Speaker 1: around here. So if you have a bit of sunlight
Speaker 1: today or tomorrow, as bitterly cold as it is, get
Speaker 1: out and just maybe take a short walk, maybe I
Speaker 1: get ten or fifteen minute walk and get some of
Speaker 1: that vie.
Speaker 8: Right, Absolutely, that is absolutely so what it is. Momentum
Speaker 8: beats motivation. We don't need a motivation. We just need
Speaker 8: to be active. Well for a walk, get some sunlight,
Speaker 8: drink water, called someone, just move your body right down.
Speaker 4: One goal.
Speaker 1: That's all, yeah and everything. I think most ailments in
Speaker 1: life they're all related. I think to how you get
Speaker 1: to sleep, and if you don't sleep well, it triggers
Speaker 1: a lot of other things. It triggers stressors inside the
Speaker 1: body that could affect things like your gut, could affect
Speaker 1: your heart, could affect some other maladies you could contract.
Speaker 1: So I think number one we all talk about it.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how there's any panacea here for it,
Speaker 1: but get a good night's sleep. If you can get
Speaker 1: a good night's sleep, that probably helps all of these
Speaker 1: other things fall into place.
Speaker 4: Right, you could not have said it better.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Okay, how are you sleeping?
Speaker 4: That's a challenge for me as a runner.
Speaker 8: I recover during my sleep, so there is always an
Speaker 8: effort to sleep well. And the way that I have
Speaker 8: practice better sleep is to set schedule, go to bed
Speaker 8: at the same time and wake up at the same time.
Speaker 8: Whether I want to or I don't want to, that's
Speaker 8: a different story. But having discipline. Discipline is the key,
Speaker 8: not the motivation.
Speaker 1: Bal Josie says he's a runner. That's like Shakespeare saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wrote a couple of books. Bal Josie is about
Speaker 1: to take on something that to me, I couldn't even think.
Speaker 1: I get tired looking at this. But starting on the
Speaker 1: end of this month, thirty first of this month of January,
Speaker 1: You're going to be running seven marathons on seventh continents
Speaker 1: in seven days? Am I right about that? Seven marathons,
Speaker 1: seventh continents and seven days? Is that right?
Speaker 4: That is correct?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 8: Uh? Normally, if if if this interview was a face
Speaker 8: to face, I would.
Speaker 4: Have asked why not it's normally? It's uh.
Speaker 8: I'm doing it to do for the two things. Number One,
Speaker 8: trying to find We all have our perceived limitations and boundaries,
Speaker 8: and I'm trying to find my own. What is my
Speaker 8: perceived limitation? What is that boundary how far can I
Speaker 8: possibly stretch? That is that's kind of a number of
Speaker 8: the quest of finding myself.
Speaker 4: That's number one. Number two.
Speaker 5: Every continants have it's.
Speaker 4: Their own challenges.
Speaker 2: And I am someone that.
Speaker 8: Who always likes to pick up a charity or a
Speaker 8: cause for any run that I do. And so it's
Speaker 8: this is my way of uh raising awareness and raise
Speaker 8: funds for seven different causes that are important to these
Speaker 8: seven different continents, from Antarctica global warming to North America
Speaker 8: with the child's obesity.
Speaker 4: So these are the causes that.
Speaker 8: That are that are that are very close to me,
Speaker 8: and I'm passionate about these causes and and and see
Speaker 8: if we could raise some funds as well as raise awareness.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's wonderful, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I I can't imagine someone who is has this advocation
Speaker 1: of using it in a better way. But let's talk
Speaker 1: about logistics. Okay, you're going to run a marathon, and
Speaker 1: then I would think you're going to have to get
Speaker 1: on a plane and fly to another continent, get off
Speaker 1: that plane, adjust to that time period, and then run
Speaker 1: another marathon the next day. That that that can't be easy, right,
Speaker 1: I mean you've thought this out as to how the
Speaker 1: logistics of this work. So how do they work?
Speaker 8: So Luckily it's a it's a very formal organized race.
Speaker 8: So there's a group of people I think up to
Speaker 8: fifty people that would be doing it together.
Speaker 4: So we will all be together.
Speaker 8: So as you said, we will finish the race in
Speaker 8: one continent and then get on the plane, go through
Speaker 8: the same UH airport and transit and immigration and custom
Speaker 8: and all of that, and then once you exit the
Speaker 8: airport there will be a race site. Well, we will
Speaker 8: be running there and we'll do that for seven times
Speaker 8: until we reach Miami and finish the race in Miami
Speaker 8: on the sixth of February.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 8: The logistics are arranged at least, that's a that's a
Speaker 8: good thing about this. All we have to do is
Speaker 8: just finish the race strong and and avoid injuries and
Speaker 8: ready for next next contents and next race. Now, the
Speaker 8: one challenge with this is you there there are no
Speaker 8: allocated time for sleep other than what you do on
Speaker 8: the plane. I am personally on the side I don't
Speaker 8: I don't sleep well on the plane when things are moving,
Speaker 8: I do not sleep well. So that is going to
Speaker 8: be a challenge for me. But the rest of the
Speaker 8: other logistics are arranged. At least that's something that we
Speaker 8: don't have to worry about.
Speaker 1: Okay, But the body needs time to regenerate. So you know,
Speaker 1: some people, we have one of the finest marit thons
Speaker 1: in the world here in Cincinnati. It's the Flying Pig Marathon.
Speaker 1: It's every it's every May, and obviously it's for a
Speaker 1: lot of marathon ers it's the race they choose to
Speaker 1: run before the Boston Marathon. But I'm just I'm just
Speaker 1: wondering every marathon or I've talked to, when they're done,
Speaker 1: the body has to recover, whether it's an ice bath
Speaker 1: or rub down or whatever it may be, to do
Speaker 1: seven seven marathons on seven continents. Are these seven days
Speaker 1: in a row you're doing this or is there time
Speaker 1: in between each marathon?
Speaker 8: No, it's a seven consecutive days, seven days in the room.
Speaker 1: Well, how are you going? How this? This is I
Speaker 1: think the most fascinating part. How do you recover then
Speaker 1: so that you're you're ready to go on the next
Speaker 1: day because you're going to spend a lot of time
Speaker 1: in an airplane and going through customs, and you're going
Speaker 1: to have to catch some some some sleep somehow, some way.
Speaker 1: How do you how are you preparing to prepare your
Speaker 1: body for recovery after the first that would lead you
Speaker 1: to the second that would lead you on through in
Speaker 1: each of these consecutive days.
Speaker 8: So the World Marathon Challenge is the other call set
Speaker 8: in seven seven. It's not really a physical challenge. It's
Speaker 8: beyond physical challenge. It's more of a mental one. You know,
Speaker 8: jet lag, no sleep, cold, heat, different countries, different time zones.
Speaker 8: A body always want to quit before a purpose does.
Speaker 8: So I don't train my legs as much as I
Speaker 8: train my identity. Let us repeat that. We don't train legs,
Speaker 8: We don't train body. We train identity. And what that
Speaker 8: means is I train to become the kind of person
Speaker 8: who finishes.
Speaker 4: What he starts.
Speaker 8: On day four or five, there won't be any motivation available.
Speaker 8: Your body is fatigued and your body don't want to
Speaker 8: get up. But if you are training for identity and
Speaker 8: you want to make sure that that you want to
Speaker 8: become that person who finishes what he starts, that is
Speaker 8: a discipline, and discipline will wake you up and makes
Speaker 8: you make you do The day sixth and the day seventh.
Speaker 1: Well, that goes back to what we talked about a
Speaker 1: few minutes ago, the positive mindset and just it's the
Speaker 1: power of the mind over the body. If the mind
Speaker 1: isn't willing, the body won't follow along. So that that
Speaker 1: kind of folds into what all of this is about.
Speaker 1: Blue season, Blue Monday, how you look at things and
Speaker 1: it sounds like this is all in that same boat, right.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, So yeah, Blue Monday maybe a myth, but winter
Speaker 8: struggles are real.
Speaker 3: It is real.
Speaker 8: Positive mindset does not change the weather, It does not
Speaker 8: change the outlook. It does not change how tired your
Speaker 8: body is. But what it does is it changes how
Speaker 8: you walk through the strom, and every strom passes.
Speaker 1: So talk a little bit about You mentioned Miami, so
Speaker 1: that obviously is the marathon in North America. Then was
Speaker 1: it Antarctica or Arctic for the other where where where?
Speaker 1: Let's which one of the ones are you? Are you
Speaker 1: going to be in both or one or the other?
Speaker 8: So first day, which is thirty first of this month,
Speaker 8: is in Antarctica, Antarctica. Second day, yeah, second day is
Speaker 8: in Cape Town for for Africa. Third day is in Perth, Australia.
Speaker 8: For Australia, contment. Fourth day is a Dubai for Asia continent,
Speaker 8: fifth day is in Madrid, Spain for Europe, and sixth
Speaker 8: day is Brazil for South America. And Miami is the
Speaker 8: last day seventh day for North America continent.
Speaker 1: And you know, some of these are basic questions because
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by you know, what what's happened? Are you
Speaker 1: are you flying commercial? Or do you guys have a
Speaker 1: private plane?
Speaker 5: We do have a private plane.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was going to say that might be a
Speaker 1: bit much if you know you're trying to, you know,
Speaker 1: find out do your board and group one or group two? Okay,
Speaker 1: So you've got to You've got you've got a private plane,
Speaker 1: and you're raising awareness for each and every continent that
Speaker 1: you're in. So you're taking donations. How I mean when
Speaker 1: people see bal Joshi running, for example, in Miami for
Speaker 1: child obesity, which is your cause here in North America
Speaker 1: and all of these other places that you have that
Speaker 1: you're running in, how do do people contribute? Do you
Speaker 1: stop and grab some cash along the way from people
Speaker 1: that are watching you? How do people how do you
Speaker 1: support these charities?
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I'm associated with a nonprofit ofable on C
Speaker 8: three here in the US call a one step foundation,
Speaker 8: so that all the funds are being raised.
Speaker 4: Using that platform.
Speaker 8: Primarily we I tend to raise money through sponsorship rather
Speaker 8: of individual contribution. Of course, any contribution is welcome and
Speaker 8: will be received very well.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 8: Uh, but the focus is on more of a corporate sponsorship,
Speaker 8: corporate giving, and then one Step Foundation does the management.
Speaker 1: So so one Step Foundation is where people can go
Speaker 1: to if they want to contribute, is what you're saying,
Speaker 1: One step Foundation.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, okay.
Speaker 1: And a real quick question here, can anybody follow this?
Speaker 1: Is there a way to follow it online or anything?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 8: People can follow me on on Instagram and Facebook is.
Speaker 4: Running Monk.
Speaker 8: That's the handle once again bal Joshi the Running Monk,
Speaker 8: and we will be posting our journey h on the
Speaker 8: through the social media.
Speaker 1: Bal Joshi is spelled b A L j O s H.
Speaker 1: I are you a monk? You live in a sanctuary
Speaker 1: or a convent? Where do you live?
Speaker 8: And now I'm a banker, be trade hearing, So.
Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna be out there in a row.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know chanting.
Speaker 8: I wish I could well, So the reason they called
Speaker 8: me running Monk. The reason why the name is given
Speaker 8: as the running Monk is that I am I'm a
Speaker 8: runner of who runs to raise money for other people.
Speaker 1: Oh that's fantastic. Thank you for your time today, good Luck.
Speaker 1: I wish you a lot of peace along the way
Speaker 1: and a lot of time to rehabilitate from marathon to marathon.
Speaker 1: Good Luck, bal thanks for your time here today.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, thank you very much, and I appreciate you having
Speaker 8: me on yourself.
Speaker 1: You bet seven marathons on seven continents in seven days.
Speaker 1: I'd be ready for seven and seven after that. Two
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