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Speaker 1: On this Martin Luther King Junior Day, and a day

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Speaker 1: understood that you get nowhere by yelling and screaming, but

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Speaker 1: King Junior Day. It is a day that is resplendent,

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Speaker 1: with a lot of other things going on that we

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Speaker 1: lot of people, I think, were expecting Trump to be

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Speaker 1: still not lovable and huggable. I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: of office in twenty twenty eight. Now, somebody that understands

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Speaker 1: all of this, I don't explain any of this is

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Speaker 1: standing by to join us right now. He is flashing

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Speaker 1: euphemistically speaking online one And it's a great day when

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Speaker 1: we could get political analysts and a man who looks

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Speaker 1: at life and says, let's live at the Winsome way.

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Speaker 1: It's our good buddy from out in the buckle of

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Speaker 1: good buddy, Dan Snell, how are you on this glorious Monday?

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Speaker 2: I am doing dandy. Thank you so much, Ken for

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Speaker 2: those kind words. Always good to be on the nation's station.

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Speaker 2: You know, I looked up why you were called that,

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Speaker 2: and President Trump and WLW SEFNE have something in common.

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Speaker 2: There's never been anything like it before ever ever, as

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Speaker 2: Trump always says it, that's because I learned the wlw's

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Speaker 2: first five hundred thousand watts and only five hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: watt station before you were said, they said, can't do

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Speaker 2: that anymore? Mean historic?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where I live, you used to be able to

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Speaker 1: there for morning toasts and you'd hear WLW five hundred

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, I read about it. I was very impressed.

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Speaker 2: You are the modern day You were the truth Social

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you have an excellent points. You know,

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Speaker 2: and Donald Trump's had a lot of wins. We'll give him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, the thing is, if anybody thought Trump was

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Speaker 2: Would you agree, absolutely? Yeah. I think Susie Wilds as

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think Trump is it's incumbent upon Trump.

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Speaker 1: If he really wants to save the GOP in the

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Speaker 1: I just don't know if he's capable of that.

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Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, I think he's pretty set in his ways.

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Speaker 2: You stay excellent point is that he is a little

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Speaker 1: If the phone call came tonight from Susan Wils's chief

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Speaker 2: Him, Well, thank you for even thinking I could do that,

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Speaker 2: I'd say, mister President, I believe that I represent the

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Speaker 2: but he's got to have someone that says enough, sir,

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Speaker 1: Yeah he says enough, and somebody yeah, I mean you

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Speaker 1: God forbid. In twenty twenty eight, regardless of who runs,

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Speaker 1: But Dan, our time is up. I do think you

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? I would love to talk to her. I've also

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All those executives from Cumulus Radio just hit the just

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Speaker 1: Uh, Dan, you stay well and you and I'll be

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Speaker 5: Thanks for your time, all right, Stay winsome.

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Speaker 1: was built around. Yeah, Billy Bob Thornton, I think, and

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Speaker 1: I'll confirm this in just a second. I think moved

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Speaker 1: in with R. T. Travino for about six months so

435
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Speaker 1: Billy Bob could study exactly what a landman like RT.

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Speaker 1: Travino does on the job. This is fascinating. If true,

437
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Speaker 1: I read this somewhere. I'm not sure, but let's confirm it.

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Speaker 6: RT.

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Speaker 1: Travino. How are you on this glorious Monday.

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Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, I'm doing excellent today, Ken, and thank

441
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Speaker 7: you as always for those lavish introductions. I will not confirm,

442
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Speaker 7: but I won't deny that Billy Bob Thoyd had to

443
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Speaker 7: come sit down and mirror by.

444
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Speaker 3: For a few months before shooting Taylor Sharda's new hit show.

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Speaker 1: Did he clean out your refrigerator? Did he replenish what

446
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Speaker 1: he ate? Did he make his bed? I mean, what

447
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Speaker 1: was it like?

448
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Speaker 7: You know, for the most part, all of us in

449
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Speaker 7: the oil and gas industry are very respectful of others property,

450
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Speaker 7: and we do like to return what we may or

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Speaker 7: may not of eating and or drinking.

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Speaker 1: He's got a pretty hot wife on that show, you know, Angela.

453
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Speaker 1: Did she show up at all at the Art Travino residence.

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Speaker 3: There, No, no, she did not show up.

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Speaker 7: And I'm sure as many of us that are about

456
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Speaker 7: my age didn't though that Marcity Blues was still a thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, now i'm looking here last week, I guess it

458
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Speaker 1: was maybe thursd Your Friday gas was about two dollars

459
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Speaker 1: and sixty seven cents a gallon on the national basis.

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Speaker 1: You look around today here in the Greater Cincinnati area,

461
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Speaker 1: I'm seeing gas regular gas going for as low as

462
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Speaker 1: two dollars and nineteen cents a gallon. I'm looking in

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Speaker 1: places like well Mount Healthy, for example, a very nice

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Speaker 1: community here in the Greater Cincinnati area. Two dollars and

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Speaker 1: thirty one cents a gallon Middletown Kroger has got it

466
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Speaker 1: for two thirty two. I said it's as low as

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Speaker 1: two nineteen. That's in Pleasant Run. I'm just wondering. Trump

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Speaker 1: said six seven months ago the gasoline would eventually get

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Speaker 1: below two dollars a gallon. Now that we've got all

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Speaker 1: of this this oil from Venezuela, is that just going

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Speaker 1: to hasten the process of getting the price of a

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Speaker 1: gallon of gasoline below two dollars a gallon?

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, if I was a betman at twenty

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Speaker 7: sixteen when I voted against Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have gotten that one righted.

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Speaker 7: If somebody asked me six months ago, will we ask

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Speaker 7: you to seat two dollars gasoline?

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Speaker 3: I wasn't sure.

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Speaker 7: It looks like we're definitely on pace, and there in Cincinnati,

480
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Speaker 7: that whole area remains relatively low compared to the national price,

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Speaker 7: and especially when you have the seasonal factors that have

482
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Speaker 7: been introduced and the ample global oil supply right now,

483
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Speaker 7: and let's not always forget about the great US production

484
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Speaker 7: levels that we have.

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Speaker 3: So it's just really great.

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Speaker 7: And with the Cincinnati somewhere just around like those prices

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Speaker 7: that you mentioned, they're still down significantly from last year.

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Speaker 3: How awesome is that? It is?

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Speaker 4: It is?

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Speaker 1: But now we've got this oil coming in from Venezuela,

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Speaker 1: and and I have visited enough in the past to

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Speaker 1: know that the oil that comes out of the ground

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Speaker 1: in Venezuela is called in the oil business dirty oil.

494
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Speaker 1: Might right about.

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Speaker 7: That, that's true that we try to use the word crude,

496
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Speaker 7: which just means it's got a lot more in there,

497
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Speaker 7: a lot of more crud in there, if you will. However,

498
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Speaker 7: that oil does so well here in America, not only

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Speaker 7: by into our refineries with our sweet Texas oil that

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Speaker 7: we get here in the great seat of Texas, but

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Speaker 7: also can for the refine.

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Speaker 3: For the strategic petroleum reserve.

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Speaker 7: We were able to refill our strategic petroleum reserve for

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Speaker 7: a lot less than in the past. And I've been

505
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Speaker 7: hearing numbers been thrown around, and I just want to

506
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Speaker 7: say that this as a what if, because years ago,

507
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Speaker 7: would President Trump during his first term tried to have

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Speaker 7: a Democrat led Congress purchase enough oil to refill the

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Speaker 7: strategic petroleum reserve.

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Speaker 3: They said no at twenty five dollars oil.

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Speaker 7: Okay, The what if Ruber right now, is that Venezuela

512
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Speaker 7: was selling that oil to China for thirty dollars a barrel.

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Speaker 7: So the rumor is that President Trump's going, Okay, we're

514
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Speaker 7: going to honor that same deal and we're going to

515
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Speaker 7: fill up the strategic reserve at thirty dollars barre oil,

516
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Speaker 7: which would be great for the nation. It doesn't hurt

517
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Speaker 7: the oil and gas companies of the United States, but

518
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Speaker 7: it also doesn't necessarily help us at the same time. Right,

519
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Speaker 7: But for as a country red and yellow, black and white, left, right,

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Speaker 7: it helps us out tremendously.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. And let's not forget the reserve is intended for

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Speaker 1: a national emergency. It's also intended for if God forbid,

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Speaker 1: we ever go to war. You know, I still think

524
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Speaker 1: there are people around here aret that around here, around everywhere.

525
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Speaker 1: They think, oh, now we have electric tanks and we

526
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Speaker 1: got electric trucks, and no, no, we aren't there. And

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Speaker 1: we're certainly not marching down that road as quickly as

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Speaker 1: we were under the past administration. So this is an

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Speaker 1: emergency reserve if this country needs it for whatever. It's

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Speaker 1: not something to be tapped into, as Biden did to

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Speaker 1: lower the price of a gasoline at the A gallon

532
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Speaker 1: of gasoline at the pump because you want to curry

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Speaker 1: more favor with voters. It wasn't intended for that. It

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Speaker 1: was intended for a national emergency for this country. So yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm more than in favor of replenishing that and getting

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Speaker 1: it back to the levels that it was during Trump's

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Speaker 1: first administration. Now with regards to this oil, you've got

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Speaker 1: that sweet stuff that's coming out of the ground as

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Speaker 1: sweet crude. It's not crude. It's sweet oil coming out

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Speaker 1: of the out of the ground in Texas. And we've

541
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Speaker 1: got the crude or the dirty oil coming from Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: All that sounds good. We haven't built a refinery of

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Speaker 1: any note in this country in fifty years. How are

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Speaker 1: you going to refine all of this stuff?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 7: That's that's the next question. It's about build, baby, build.

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Speaker 7: We have enough oil and natural gas to sustain the

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Speaker 7: United States combine combined.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me say that again. We have enough combined.

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Speaker 7: However, we don't have the infrastructure, all refining abilities to

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Speaker 7: do that. Really a lot with the natural gas because

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Speaker 7: as a nation, the United States uses twenty to one

553
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Speaker 7: million barrels of oil a day, Okay, or bos boat

554
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Speaker 7: barrels of oil equivalent, and we produce almost fourteen.

555
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Speaker 3: Million barrels of oil a day, and.

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Speaker 7: The estimates on how much natural gas we flare every

557
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Speaker 7: day are monstrous. So we really need to be able

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Speaker 7: to capture that natural gas to really lower all these

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Speaker 7: prices even more.

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Speaker 1: You know, the price of a gallon of gasoline. People

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Speaker 1: always say, okay, yeah, So if the price of a

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Speaker 1: gallon of gasoline that we take out of the barrel,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the price of a gallon of gasoline visa

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Speaker 1: be the barrel of oil. How does that affect me

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Speaker 1: at the pump? And it's not just well, we can

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Speaker 1: get it out of the ground cheaper, because if the

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Speaker 1: price of crude falls too far, we're dealing with businessmen here.

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Speaker 1: We're not dealing with you know, entrepreneurs or philanthropists or

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Speaker 1: people that want to make other people feel good. You're

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Speaker 1: in business to make money. That's the way it works.

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Speaker 1: But if that price of crude falls too far, then

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Speaker 1: the American producers are going to cut back and then

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Speaker 1: because it would be less profitable to drill. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a delicate balance you have to have between the

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Speaker 1: price of a barrel of oil vis a v what

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Speaker 1: it does to you and me and everybody else at

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Speaker 1: the gas pump. Can you explain that relationship? If it

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Speaker 1: goes too low, I might say, well, we'll just let

579
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Speaker 1: that set there until that price starts coming back up.

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Speaker 7: You are absolutely correct, and to give back to just

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Speaker 7: your other question about refineries, absolutely be so important for

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Speaker 7: us for build another refinery right now, and that could

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Speaker 7: be what part of the strategic play is of the

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Speaker 7: majors with looking for certainties, because if we could guarantee

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Speaker 7: x amount of barrels of venezuela and crude coming to

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Speaker 7: American to be refined every day, that would also lower

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Speaker 7: the price asaline.

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Speaker 3: And then it is a business. It is business.

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Speaker 7: It's a free market, it's business one oh one, which

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Speaker 7: is all we all going to make profit. The Great

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Speaker 7: Harold Ham was just on one of the news outlets

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Speaker 7: this weekend sharing that at some point it's going to

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Speaker 7: be too expensive for all oil Producersduce that is correct.

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Speaker 3: As an independent papers.

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Speaker 7: We have a lot lower threshold. But for some of

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Speaker 7: these mid majors that sixty dollars is the number. They're

597
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Speaker 7: not far off from having to just stopped producing, which

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Speaker 7: will then mean loss of jobs and that we will

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Speaker 7: see oil production go down, and that's not something we want.

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Speaker 7: So we have to find that middle ground. And right

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Speaker 7: now I think we have a president that is actually

602
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Speaker 7: resetting the economic stature, not only here in America.

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Speaker 3: Which he's making it great, but he's that in the world.

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Speaker 7: Know that nobody can do anything without the United States

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Speaker 7: of America exactly.

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Speaker 1: And this then chokes off oil supply to places like

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Speaker 1: Cuba or place is like China, and that all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, rather than having a free spicket in Venezuela,

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Speaker 1: they're going to have to do business with us. But again,

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Speaker 1: and I want to get to I don't want to

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Speaker 1: get too deep in the weeds on the oil and

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Speaker 1: gas industry. You know it far better than anybody that

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Speaker 1: is sitting in this studio right now or might be

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Speaker 1: out there. This light crude that the US produces, it's

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Speaker 1: cheaper to refine, and most of our refineries are designed

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Speaker 1: to process a mix of that light crude and that

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Speaker 1: dirty crude from Venezuela. But it seems to me that

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Speaker 1: it costs more to refine this oil from Venezuela. Am

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Speaker 1: I right about that? Even if there's mixed. If there's

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Speaker 1: mixed refineries there, it has to cost more. If it's

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Speaker 1: just stuff that's not as sweet as what comes out

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Speaker 1: of the ground in Texas. Therefore, it might not affect

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Speaker 1: the price of a gallon of gasoline as well as

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Speaker 1: what we think it might be. Am am I connecting

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Speaker 1: the dots here, or am I wrong?

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Speaker 3: Ken?

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Speaker 7: What we have here in America is the majority of

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Speaker 7: the refinery is I would say a strong seventy five

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Speaker 7: percent of the refiners in America are not built to

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Speaker 7: actually refine the sweet Texas crude. They are actually built

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Speaker 7: and designed to refine that cheap or the lesser expensive oil,

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Speaker 7: like in Venezuela in the Middle East, where we were

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Speaker 7: getting millions and millions of barrels of oil from a day.

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Speaker 7: A lot of our oil actually gets refined out at

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Speaker 7: other places and then may or may not come back

636
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Speaker 7: to us. So again, getting back the refinery question, we

637
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 7: absolutely need a new refinery. We could use two or

638
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 7: three several years ago, if I remember correctly, then one

639
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Speaker 7: of the very first times I got to meet with

640
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Speaker 7: you was because Exon Mobile had just refurbished part of

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Speaker 7: an old refinery into Now we're being able to refine

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Speaker 7: two hundred and fifty thousand barrels of Sweet Texas old crude.

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Speaker 7: And that was a huge, huge move, And so we

644
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 7: need more things like that in the future to truly

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Speaker 7: be able to become independent, not only in all the

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Speaker 7: other ways, but most importantly in energy independence.

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Speaker 1: Here all right, So I rattled off some numbers here

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Speaker 1: in the Greater Cincinnati area. By the way, we're chatting

649
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Speaker 1: with RT. Travino. He is, he's the man that they

650
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Speaker 1: based Landman on. And I can't confirm this, but I

651
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Speaker 1: know there was Hollywood production people that were all over

652
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Speaker 1: his where he lives, his neighborhood and everything, and watching

653
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: him out in the area, roughnecking and things like that.

654
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: I guess for reasons you can't confirm that, is that correct?

655
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Speaker 1: You just don't want to be besieged by autograph seekers

656
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: and things like that. So I have I've got these

657
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Speaker 1: numbers that I've that I've rattled off about a price

658
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Speaker 1: of gallon of gasoline here in the Greater Cincinnati area,

659
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Speaker 1: and it's close to two dollars a gallon our tea.

660
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Speaker 1: Knowing that the summer is coming up, knowing that the

661
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Speaker 1: air is the summer gas and there's winter gas, and

662
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Speaker 1: it changes prices when we hit the bricks here in

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Speaker 1: May and into July fourth. Could it be under two

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Speaker 1: dollars a gallon by then?

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Speaker 7: If there's ever gonna be a time in the United

666
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Speaker 7: States history for us to be below two dollars again.

667
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Speaker 7: And here in the Great Stead of Texas, we've actually

668
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 7: seen those some places like that. I know we've seen

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Speaker 7: them in like Corpus Chrissy, Amarillo. But if we want

670
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Speaker 7: to see that on a national average, this is going

671
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Speaker 7: to be the summer to do it. I do believe

672
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Speaker 7: that if we don't see it by the end of

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Speaker 7: July twenty twenty six, we won't see it.

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Speaker 1: Well, he might just try and figure all this out,

675
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: he being the president, with his smart guys there, they

676
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: might just have two dollars gallon of gasoline by July fourth,

677
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: two hundred and fiftieth birthday of these United States. By

678
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: the way, before I let you go, you of course

679
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: have had it in the ground for a while, that

680
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: big beautiful diamond bit that is at ken Brew One

681
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: in your field. How many barrels of oil are coming

682
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 1: out of the ground from Kenbrew One with paper energy?

683
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 7: Yes, No, the Kim Brew run is still just as

684
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 7: strong as consistent as it was on day one, just

685
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 7: like you are with your radio show, just pumping it

686
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 7: out and giving out great production and great.

687
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: Just communication all day every day.

688
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 7: And that well, it's just the kim Brew number one

689
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 7: has done us so well.

690
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Speaker 1: And there's not a lot of people passing out from

691
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: the natural gas fumes like we saw on why that

692
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: one land Man episode. It's not like it's it's it's

693
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: it's endangering the environment or anything I want. I can't

694
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: do that. I have to be environmentally friendly.

695
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 7: Absolutely, and that was not natural if I'm correct the episode.

696
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 7: You're thinking of that as a very dangerous mustard gas.

697
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 4: Oh don't we.

698
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 7: Wear yes no, and so you wear no no. So

699
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 7: we wear a lot of safety gear, have monitors on set,

700
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 7: and fortunately knock on wood, as I always like to say,

701
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 7: knock on wood, and this area of where the Kimbrew

702
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Speaker 7: Number one is, we don't have a lot of that.

703
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: Well, when I get down there, you and I are

704
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: going to the patch. We're gonna go to the p

705
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: absolutely and we're gonna go in there and we're gonna

706
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna have some beers and we're gonna talk about

707
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: all this stuff in person, because I really want to

708
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: get down I want to get my hands dirty when

709
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: I go down there. I want that. I want that

710
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: crude all over me that I have to scrub off

711
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: with with pomise and things like that. I just want.

712
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: I want a rough nicked. And I'll be able to

713
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: do that, right.

714
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, absolutely, you know we'll get you to sling

715
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 7: some chain out.

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00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: There, sling some chain. That sounds fascinating. All right, RT.

717
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: You stay well. You know we'll be in touch. Keep

718
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: the faith, brother, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Ken't have a good one.

720
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Speaker 1: Yep, there he is the original landman.

721
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Speaker 5: RT.

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Speaker 1: Travino. It's twelve fifty six on this Monday. Glad you're

723
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: with us. No, I mean it, I'm glad you're with us. Hell,

724
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this alone. Seven hundred WLW

725
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Speaker 1: ten minutes after one o'clock, which would be one ten

726
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Speaker 1: on the Eastern time zone. Here in the greatest country

727
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Speaker 1: in the world, the United States of America, and it's

728
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Speaker 1: the average American and for the great American on this

729
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King Junior day, Glad you are with us.

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00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: I don't say that capriciously, for without you what would

731
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: I be. I would be one man sitting in a

732
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: room babbling by himself. And why would I have to

733
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: leave home to do that? A lot to get to

734
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Speaker 1: on the show. It's college football Championship night tonight. We'll

735
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: have a little Indiana angle to preview on that. I

736
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: like Indiana in this game. I know the emotions are

737
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: with Miami. They're playing just around the street, round the

738
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: corner and down the street from where their university sits.

739
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: Also the biggest red flags in job interviews, and there

740
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: are a few A lot of people are looking for work.

741
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: Jobs were tough to come by in twenty twenty five.

742
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: And if you're out looking now, maybe some things you

743
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: can avoid that might make you a more attractive candidate.

744
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: And we've also arrived at Blue Monday. This apparently is

745
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Speaker 1: the one day in the three hundred and sixty five

746
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Speaker 1: calendar days that is the day that is most difficult

747
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: to get through for some people, Blue Monday. And I

748
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: don't know why, but it's always this date in January. Anyway,

749
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Speaker 1: We're going to get into that before we're done here

750
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: at three o'clock.

751
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: And this.

752
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: What this world needs, I think, is a good laugh.

753
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: There are a lot of things that go on in

754
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Speaker 1: this world that are so serious, a lot of things

755
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: that go on in this world that consume us. And

756
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: as you get older, you look back on the things

757
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: that did that to you at a certain age and

758
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: you say to yourself, why was I so concerned about that?

759
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: But apparently that's where we are. We don't want information,

760
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: it seems like anymore. We want affirmation, and so we

761
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: gravitate to the various websites and the various radio shows

762
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: and television programs that tell us exactly what we want

763
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: to hear. And what we want to hear all the

764
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: time isn't necessarily the truth, it's just what we want

765
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: to hear. And we get enraptured with things like doom

766
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: scrolling on Twitter, and we get consumed with what other

767
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: people say to us and about us, when sometimes all

768
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Speaker 1: we really want to do is laugh, just have a

769
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Speaker 1: good time. Well, I've got the place for you, and

770
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: I've got the guy that can do it. Coming to

771
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: the Funny Bone. Have you ever been to the Funnybone

772
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 1: out there in Liberty Township? Coming to the Funny Bone

773
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: the end of this month for a couple of shows

774
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: on January thirtieth and thirty. First is a guy you

775
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: have probably seen a lot of on television if you

776
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: watch the show Gutfeld on Fox News. If you watch

777
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: that show that's on at ten o'clock at night, they

778
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: have a lot of comedians on The one comedian that

779
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: I love that is always on that show is Jamie Lissau.

780
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: He's deadpan funny. In fact, Guttfeld calls him one of

781
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Speaker 1: the five best comedians working today. He's been in a

782
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: number of movies. In fact, he was in the Netflix

783
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: original series Real Rob that was with Rob Schneider, Adam Sandler,

784
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Speaker 1: Norton McDonald, the late Norm McDonald, and David Spade, and

785
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: in fact he co wrote and co produced that. He's

786
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Speaker 1: been on The Tonight Show, the Late Night Show, He's

787
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: been on all of the late night shows, and a

788
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Speaker 1: lot of the Comedy Central shows, the specials that pop up.

789
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Speaker 1: And so when the booker, the guy that places the

790
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: various comedians at these clubs around the country, when the

791
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: booker said, would you like to talk to Jamie Lissaw,

792
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: I said yes, because I think this guy has just

793
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: dropped dead funny, and I also wanted to talk to

794
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Speaker 1: him about the serious side of his business. Which is

795
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Speaker 1: a really tough business to find any kind of traction.

796
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Speaker 1: So here he is now ready to join us on

797
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 1: seven hundred w WELW on this Monday, and let's ask him, Jamie,

798
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: let's l how are you on this glorious day.

799
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Speaker 4: I'm really good, Ken, thanks for thanks for making the time.

800
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 4: Very excited to come back to Cincinnati.

801
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: No, I'm glad. I'm glad you're here. You've you've hit

802
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: some spots around here. I mean, you've been in California,

803
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: North Carolina, Alabama, places like Laugh Factory, Wits End, Comedy Club, Punchline,

804
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: Side Splitters. I often said, if I was going to

805
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 1: open up a comedy club, I'd call it Depressions, because

806
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: what I do is get people in there and then

807
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: they'd laugh and they'd feel better about themselves. I think

808
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: I got a good idea.

809
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 4: I like that. I think I like that name for

810
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 4: a club. I have this weird thing that I think

811
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Speaker 4: about all the time where it's kind of a morbid,

812
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 4: but I always think about if something ever happened to

813
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 4: me and then they report that something terrible happened to

814
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 4: me in the news, I hope that I'm on my

815
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 4: way to a good comedy club. When the report comes out, like,

816
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 4: I hope it's like a bunnybone, were like, oh, Jamie

817
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 4: was going to fight. I just can't have a report like,

818
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 4: you know, Jamie's car went off the road on his

819
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 4: way to rooster Te Feathers. I just can't.

820
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Speaker 1: Oh, my god, at what age? And I have some

821
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: serious questions because I, you know, I'm fascinated by your business.

822
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Speaker 1: At what age did you realize you could make people laugh?

823
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Speaker 4: So honestly, I would say at about ten years old,

824
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 4: my default was comedy. So like, even at like ten, eleven, twelve,

825
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Speaker 4: if I was in trouble, or if I was stressed

826
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Speaker 4: out or the parents were acting strange, I noticed that

827
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Speaker 4: my default before anything else was to try to make

828
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Speaker 4: everyone laugh. And then it was not until many, many

829
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Speaker 4: years later, even after watching Rodney Danderfield's Young Comedian especially,

830
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 4: it took years for me to realize that people could

831
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Speaker 4: do that as a job. I thought they did that

832
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Speaker 4: but also had other jobs. My whole life, I thought, oh,

833
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 4: comedians probably you know, during the day, their accountants or something.

834
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Speaker 4: I didn't know it was a full time job. And

835
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Speaker 4: so when I got older, and really I was actually

836
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 4: in law school, for a solid week and when I

837
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 4: when I found out you could do this for a living,

838
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 4: and I dropped out of law school after a week

839
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Speaker 4: with my father's support, and I ended up trying stand

840
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 4: up And that was thirty years ago.

841
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Speaker 1: Did you work on routines at that young age? I mean,

842
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: were you working up material at that point?

843
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Speaker 4: So in about maybe like fourteen or fifteen, I was embarrassing,

844
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 4: but I'd be in my basement and I had a

845
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 4: microphone that was not even it was not even plugged in,

846
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 4: and it was just a microphone, and I would pretend

847
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 4: I was talking to people. And years later I was

848
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Speaker 4: performing at a comedy club in my hometown of Rush

849
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 4: to New York and my neighbor and it was like

850
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 4: packed and it was exciting. And my neighbor told me

851
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: she used to come and listen to me outside of

852
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 4: my basements when I was performing for no one.

853
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: I think Buddy Hackett got started the same way.

854
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: I think so might the same I had.

855
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: That woman arrested, might have had the same neighbor. I

856
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: don't know, do comedians like each other or because I mean,

857
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: you're you were on all these specials and you've been uh,

858
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: Rob Schneider has been very good to you, and I

859
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: just wonder if they like each other or if it's

860
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: you get in a room and they're all trying to

861
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: one help each other. How does that work.

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00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 4: I would say it's almost like there's two groups of

863
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 4: comics if I was only going to separate them into

864
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 4: like group A and Group B, and there are there

865
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 4: is a huge like community of comedians that just want

866
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 4: each other to succeed, and you kind of find out

867
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 4: who they are early on and all my friends, like

868
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 4: my favorite phone call is when one of my openers

869
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: tells me I got to cancel because I'm headlining, I

870
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 4: can't open for you. And I go, that's the best,

871
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 4: That's what I want for them. And I surround myself

872
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 4: with like Rob Schneider, like that man is more excited

873
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 4: for me than I am excited for myself, no kidding,

874
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 4: Like he is so excited, and I think we sort

875
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 4: of like, because I'm like that, I tend to be

876
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 4: around people like that. But you are absolutely right that

877
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 4: there is the opposite of that, where it's a little

878
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 4: bit more cutthroat and competitive. But those guys aren't in

879
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 4: my friend group. You know, those guys kind of are

880
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 4: on their own thing. So I kind of prefer it

881
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 4: this way in comedy and also in all things, you know,

882
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 4: like where we all kind of root for each other,

883
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 4: there's room for everybody, you know, it's like there's only

884
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 4: one slot.

885
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: No, no, I know, I totally agree with that. I

886
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: think there's I think it's that way in a lot

887
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: of creative businesses. And sometimes you get caught up in

888
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: your own bs and all of a sudden you're surrounded

889
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: by people that couldn't care less about you, And what

890
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: a terrible place to be. You you write, it seems

891
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: like a lot. Do you write for the gut Feld

892
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: Show as well?

893
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 4: You know what's funny?

894
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 8: Man?

895
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: I have as a like a fill in when there's

896
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 4: an emergency. But my problem is, I'll be totally honest

897
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 4: with you. When I write a good joke, I do

898
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 4: not want to give that the great guess. I'll like

899
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 4: to keep that for myself. But there's other guys who

900
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 4: are more joke machines, like a Joe Devido, a Joe Mackey,

901
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 4: a Cat Tents, and so they are the regular writers

902
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 4: in the show. I will certainly fill in, but I

903
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 4: will admit my best shows will probably stay in my pockets?

904
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 4: How happy to fill in?

905
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: How often do you write? In other words, I mean

906
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: you've had specials and things like that, and you don't

907
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: want to repeat the same jokes constantly. Like I love

908
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: Rodney Dangerfield, but Rodney Dangerfield to tell the same joke

909
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: and then three years later he's telling the same joke.

910
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: I think he was a genius, don't get me wrong,

911
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: but the comedian is out there long enough. You don't

912
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: want to have stale materials. So how often do you write?

913
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: Are you writing every day?

914
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? And like I try to make sure we go

915
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 4: back to market. It's usually like a year at least

916
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 4: imageween markets, And when we do theaters, we go back

917
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 4: a year and a half later. And the goal is

918
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 4: if somebody came to that first show and they come

919
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 4: to that second or eighteen months later, it's a gotta

920
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 4: be ninety nine percent of a new show. So they

921
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 4: come back that third time in that fourth time, and

922
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 4: it's creating a new experience for them. And so I

923
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 4: do work really hard at that. And I also try

924
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 4: to work very hard at every show that I do.

925
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 4: Even if you came to, you know, the Friday late

926
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 4: show at the Funny moone and then the Saturday and

927
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 4: early show. I think those would be a little different too.

928
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: I think each one would sort of have its own thing.

929
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 4: I try to keep it like, you know, not like interactive,

930
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 4: like I'm doing croudwork. I have my hour, but I

931
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 4: will certainly invite it to be a little bit different

932
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 4: than if you just watched this on television. Like I

933
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: know you're there, we can talk to each other and

934
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 4: it's like a night out that it's going to be unique,

935
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 4: even if it's in the same weekend. But yeah, I

936
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 4: would say like a new hour every year and a

937
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: half is probably is the goal.

938
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: And you've been to Cincinnati before, right, I mean, this

939
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: isn't a virgin trip for you.

940
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 4: In here, right, many times I did visit when it

941
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 4: was a virgin I believe it or not. And when

942
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 4: I yeah, I have definitely been to Cincinnati before before

943
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 4: Guts Held, when I performed there, I'll be honest with you,

944
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 4: no one else was there a lot of room to

945
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 4: stretch out, a lot of emptycas But I've been back

946
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 4: I think twice since guts Ald, and it has been

947
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 4: it's one of the warmest welcomes I've ever received. This

948
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 4: is not a joke. The first time I went to

949
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 4: the Liberty Funnybone, it is not a joke at all,

950
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 4: not a bit. I pulled up to the club and

951
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 4: there's a huge line outside, and I go to the

952
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 4: manager like, ah, man, what's going on tonight? What are

953
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 4: we competing with? And he goes, what are you talking about?

954
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 4: Those people are there to see you? And I go, yeah,

955
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 4: what everybody? I thought he was doing a bit. I

956
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 4: thought I was joking that they were all there for

957
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 4: my show. And so I have like a special place

958
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 4: in my heart at that Liberty Funny One because it

959
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 4: was the first place I was like, whoa, you're telling

960
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 4: me people are really coming to actually see me. And so, yeah,

961
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 4: I love Sincenty. I've probably been there, I'm not even

962
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 4: kid like, maybe twenty times in the last you know,

963
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 4: thirty years.

964
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: But you don't get out right, I mean, you go

965
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: to these towns and you do the show, you go back,

966
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: you relax and whatnot. It's not like you go sight

967
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: seeing it like for a two days stop here. You're

968
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: not going to be out taking in the sits going

969
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: to a ballgame or something like that.

970
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,959
Speaker 4: Right, you know, I do travel with my wife now

971
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 4: and so she has been good at getting me to

972
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 4: do a little more of the local stuff that is

973
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 4: in each town. Like we don't get too crazy because

974
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 4: we do get little hire for the shows that everywhere

975
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 4: we go, we do try to do one thing. Would

976
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 4: you have a recommendation for us on the thirtieth Cincinnati?

977
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 4: Is there something you think people should do in Cincinnati

978
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 4: where they live?

979
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: Well, on January thirtieth, it would be an inside recreational thing.

980
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend going outside to do anything on January

981
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: the thirtieth in this town.

982
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 4: But I mean, I, like you said, Skyline Chili. Is

983
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 4: that Cincinnati.

984
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: Yes, it's excellent, it really is, but you have to

985
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: develop a taste for it. If you've never had it,

986
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Okay, But there's also here's here's a

987
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: pretty cool place. The Neon Sign Museum is in Cincinnati.

988
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: All these Neon signs. Yeah, yeah, right down to all right, Yeah,

989
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: check that out, Check that out.

990
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 4: Great, I'm going to mark that down.

991
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: Write that down, man, and if you like it, you know,

992
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: give me a shout out or something. What did Gutfeld

993
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: discover you? Or did you discover Gutfeld so.

994
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 4: Many years ago? There was a show called The Red

995
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 4: Eye on Fox like three in the morning, and there's more.

996
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 4: I had more like a cult following it. I just

997
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 4: did a random audition at a club in New York

998
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 4: City and as quick as I can, basically, I do

999
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 4: my set at Golphin comments on. It goes pretty good.

1000
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 4: It wasn't like amazing, it wasn't awful. I was like,

1001
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 4: I felt like I was like middle of the road,

1002
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 4: not that. And afterwards, I go to the bar next

1003
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 4: door and this guy catched on the shoulder and he goes, hey, man,

1004
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 4: I'm great, gus Old you know I hosted. I go, oh,

1005
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 4: can I can I do your show? Was I funny enough?

1006
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 4: And he goes, man, I missed your set. I was

1007
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 4: taking a leak and I go.

1008
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 3: I go.

1009
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 4: I go, that's okay. Maybe I get auditions some other

1010
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 4: times and he goes no. He goes, I'm going to

1011
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 4: put you on the show, and I go, why are

1012
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 4: gonna put me on the show? Like you didn't even

1013
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 4: see my set? And he goes because people keep coming

1014
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 4: up to me telling me how funny I was tonight

1015
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 4: and he had kno been on stage. We were both

1016
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 4: wearing the same outfit and these dumb black glasses that

1017
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 4: everyone used to wear back then, and so people thought

1018
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: he was me and told him he was funny, and

1019
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 4: he goes, oh, that's good enough for me, And that's

1020
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 4: how I met great. They put me on. That's a

1021
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 4: true story.

1022
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: It's a great show when ever you're on. I've often

1023
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: wondered about this, So can I just can I take

1024
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: you from where we are right now to reality and

1025
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: suspend reality for a moment and go to a place

1026
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: that may not ever happen. Right we were about to

1027
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: be invaded by space aliens and they're coming to Earth,

1028
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: and the only thing that can that saves mankind would

1029
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: be to deliver the funniest joke ever. Who would be

1030
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: the candidate to deliver the funniest joke ever to save

1031
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: mankind from space aliens? Would it be Tom Shalou, Joe Mackei,

1032
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: or you?

1033
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 3: That is?

1034
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 4: That is a tough one. I feel like I would

1035
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 4: choose Tom Shalou if we felt like we had all

1036
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,479
Speaker 4: lived long enough.

1037
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: I asked him the same question. Go with Mackie, Okay,

1038
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: all right, all right, I think you're underselling yourself there, Jamie.

1039
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: I think you're underselling.

1040
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 4: Yourself it'sry to put myself in that position for mankind.

1041
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: But you, but you could, but you could save humanity.

1042
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: So this is January the thirtieth and the thirty first

1043
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: end of the month at the Funny Bone, which is

1044
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: a great venue, it really is. And it looks like

1045
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: we're catching you maybe at the end of the tour.

1046
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: Are you just going to keep touring after that? I

1047
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: don't have anything on on my sheet here from January

1048
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: thirtieth on. Are you Are you still going to keep

1049
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: touring after this or are you going into retirement.

1050
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 4: The reason there's nothing in your sheet is that's when

1051
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 4: the aliens are coming and we're just waiting to see

1052
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 4: how that goes.

1053
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time here. I do I do.

1054
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: You know what I said at the beginning, that you

1055
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: are you are wildly entertaining.

1056
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 4: And I agreate.

1057
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: Man, it'd be a great night and a matinee anytime

1058
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: you can see Jamie liss out. Don't go run. Thank

1059
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: you so much, sir, and enjoy your time here in Cincinnati.

1060
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 4: Thank you, Ken, good talking to you. We're going to

1061
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 4: that Neon Shime Museum.

1062
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: Thanks.

1063
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 4: We'll calculate it there you go.

1064
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: Uh what?

1065
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 3: Oh?

1066
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: The American side. You, well, he'll figure it out. He'll

1067
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: figure it out. You google this stuff, it's up there.

1068
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: He is a funny dude. I don't know if bo

1069
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: News is something that you gravitate toward. I have no

1070
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: idea if you like what Gutfield does. But when he's

1071
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: on the show, it's very quick on his feet, very

1072
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: quick on his feet, and really really funny, does a

1073
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: lot of and clean. I mean you go to one

1074
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: of his shows, like at the Funny Bone, Clean and

1075
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: again he's there the thirtieth and the thirty first of

1076
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: this month. Good play to see comedians in a good

1077
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: place to get a laugh. We're coming up on one

1078
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: twenty six already National Championship tonight Miami and Indiana. We'll

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Speaker 1: get into that in just a moment. It's the average

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Speaker 1: American in for the Great American on this Monday, News

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Speaker 1: Radio seven hundred w l W one nine News Radio

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW on this Monday, it's the average American

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Speaker 1: in for the Great American. No seg today, that means

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Speaker 1: no stooge report. Oh, I'll try to carry on here.

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Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills fired head coach to Sean McDermott, today

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Speaker 1: after another season that failed to end in a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl appearance. But they've taken the guy that was the

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Speaker 1: GM elevated him to president and so he is now

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Speaker 1: the president.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think McDermott's going to find another gig. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's so many gigs that are open right now. You

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Speaker 1: would think, off the top of your head, maybe Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: although McDermott may come off a little soft for the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh crowd. I could see him going to Cleveland. Baltimore

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Speaker 1: would have to be interested now, and maybe even a

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Speaker 1: team like Miami, you know. I mean, he had some

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Speaker 1: success in Buffalo during the regular season with Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: but his team, his teams couldn't get over the hump

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. They've got a new stadium that's up

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo right now that's going to open next year,

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Speaker 1: so I'm sure the owner wants new everything, and that stadium,

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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, is financed through not only public

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Speaker 1: but private money. I think the family that owns the

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Speaker 1: Bills is the Pagoula family. They also own the hockey

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Speaker 1: team in that town. They put up one point two

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Speaker 1: to five billion to help finance that stadium. The state,

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Speaker 1: I guess kicked in like eight hundred and fifty million,

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Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm sure he wanted the owner wanted a

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Speaker 1: fresh start, but they seem to have thrown the baby

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Speaker 1: out with the bathwater on that one. And already you're

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Speaker 1: seeing some blowback from current Bills players. They're saying this

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Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. But nevertheless, Buffalo is now on

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Speaker 1: the list of teams that are looking for a new

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Speaker 1: head coach, and Zach Tanner remains the last man standing

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Speaker 1: in the AFC North. Tonight is Championship Night in college

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Speaker 1: football Indiana Miami. They're playing it real close to the

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Speaker 1: University of Miami's campus, although the price is down there

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Speaker 1: for these tickets are so high that it probably is

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Speaker 1: going to be more of a fifty to fifty split

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Speaker 1: in that crowd and not just necessarily all Miami. And

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Speaker 1: the other thing that's going on here too is Indiana's

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Speaker 1: Somebody asked Kurt Signetti at the media day the other

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Speaker 1: day what it's fair to be to call Indiana University

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Speaker 1: and what has transpired there this season a Cinderella story.

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Speaker 1: Here's what the Indiana head coach said.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think that's a fact. If you look at

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Speaker 9: the record since Indiana started playing football and relative to

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Speaker 9: the success we've had the last two years, we've broken

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Speaker 9: a lot of records here in terms of wins, championships,

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Speaker 9: postseason games, top ten wins on the road, et cetera,

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Speaker 9: top ten wins period and so you know, it's been

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Speaker 9: kind of surreal. Uh but you know, you get it

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Speaker 9: done with the right people, properly led, and you gotta

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Speaker 9: have a blueprint plan, uh process. You gotta have the

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Speaker 9: right people on your staff and the right people in

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Speaker 9: the walker room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta have Fernando Mendoza. That hasn't hurt. Heisman

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Speaker 1: Trophy winner. He of course grew up in Miami, so

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Speaker 1: this is a homecoming of sorts for him. He was

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Speaker 1: talking about that just late last week.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I would say the meaning it means so much

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Speaker 10: to myself and my family having growing up in Miami,

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Speaker 10: growing up a University of Miami fan, and basically whole

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Speaker 10: identity being, you know, a Cuban living in Miami whose grandparents,

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Speaker 10: all four grandparents, you know, immigrated from Cuba to Miami,

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Speaker 10: made their way, had the American dream. And you know,

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Speaker 10: I've been so thankful to them and thankful to God

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Speaker 10: I've been able to you know, have a good you know,

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Speaker 10: childhood and them raising me by accomplishing the American dream.

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Speaker 10: And I think it just means so much to my family,

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Speaker 10: as you know, playing in Miami against the University of Miami.

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Speaker 1: You know, the kind of the journey.

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Speaker 10: It's kind of like a full circle moment, but also

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Speaker 10: means a lots of a lot of my teammates and

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Speaker 10: coaches and also everybody in Who's Your Nation just because

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Speaker 10: it is the national championship.

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Speaker 1: Jack Pose joins us here now on seven hundred wylw.

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Speaker 1: He covers the Indiana Who's Yours for? I think a

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Speaker 1: terrific website when it comes to Indiana athletics, more basketball

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Speaker 1: centric maybe than football, but I think that's about to change.

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Speaker 1: And I guess you know, when you look at at Mendoza,

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Speaker 1: he's he's nothing but efficient at quarterback. That's one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons why he and they are so successful.

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Speaker 6: Is that fair to say, oh, one hundred percent, I'd

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Speaker 6: agree it really is. Ken every single week that he's efficient.

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Speaker 6: I can count more times than not that he's had

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Speaker 6: more touchdown passes that he's had Incompletioncy that I think

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Speaker 6: thirty one of thirty six in these last two games

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Speaker 6: with eight touchdowns. That is incredibly efficient. He has some

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Speaker 6: great throws and there's just no duds. He'll always find

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Speaker 6: his receiver, and even his dad throws, even those zero

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Speaker 6: yard games look like NFL throws because he goes through

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Speaker 6: his progressions. He's a pro style quarterback. He can run

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Speaker 6: a little bit, and he is just a steady presence

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Speaker 6: for a steady offense that is just high powered as

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Speaker 6: we've seen these last filt let's say, fifteen games.

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Speaker 1: He also is somebody that has commanded the field. Look,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of quarterbacks, as you well know,

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Speaker 1: in college football, there's system quarterbacks. They get the team

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Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage and the first thing they

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Speaker 1: do is look over to the sideline to see what

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Speaker 1: play is being called, and that day, in essence, become

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Speaker 1: a robot. Certainly the players are coming in from the sideline.

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Speaker 1: He's not up there freelancing. But I get the sense

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Speaker 1: that when a play starts to break down, when that

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Speaker 1: call from the sideline or from the box isn't exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Get the sense with him, he's not flustered, and he

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Speaker 1: understands exactly what his options are. He sees the field,

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Speaker 1: he commands the field. I think so well, does that come,

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Speaker 1: in your opinion, from maturity, the fact that he is

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Speaker 1: older and he's not some seventeen eighteen year old kid

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Speaker 1: that's out there trying to make an offense go, or

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Speaker 1: does that come from someplace else?

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Speaker 6: I really think he's just a mature quarterback, is very smart.

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Speaker 6: He's someone that idolizes Tom Brady, and realistically he is

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Speaker 6: kind of that Tom Brady sensive. He can read the

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Speaker 6: field like no tomorrow. In about a second and a half,

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Speaker 6: he'll go through his progressions. He knows where he wants

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Speaker 6: to go. If that's not open, he'll go. He can

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Speaker 6: read the defense just about as good as anybody I've

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Speaker 6: ever seen, both high school, college and pro. And maybe

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Speaker 6: I hadn't been around as long as some other people,

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Speaker 6: but he probably is the best quarterback in just seeing

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Speaker 6: the field and knowing and going through hiss. And they're

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Speaker 6: not really a checkout able team with Kurt Signetti. So

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Speaker 6: maybe it is the play calling and Mike chen Hans

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Speaker 6: done a really good job the offensive coordinator. But when

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Speaker 6: you have a guy like Bernana Mendoza, Your playbook opens

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Speaker 6: more because of just how mature he is.

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Speaker 1: Just a little bit about the defense. They have got

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Speaker 1: some obviously some terrific players. Aiden Fisher, the senior transfer,

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Speaker 1: he's the mic, he's the middle linebacker. Absolutely, just terrific.

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Speaker 1: A little bit about him because he seems to be

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Speaker 1: the heart and soul of that Indiana defense. What's what's

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Speaker 1: his story? How has he progressed this year? For those

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Speaker 1: that might not have seen all of the Indiana.

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Speaker 6: Games, he went from all Big ten to all Americans

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Speaker 6: in my opinion this year. Ken he is the he's

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Speaker 6: the vocal leader off the field too, but he he

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Speaker 6: wears the coach to player dot. So everybody trusts Aiden

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Speaker 6: Fisher and he leads the team in total tackles the

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Speaker 6: other night with nine. But it's the guys that surround

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Speaker 6: him that make him so good. He they trust their captain,

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Speaker 6: they trust him, they look to him for every single play.

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Speaker 6: And there's a reason for it because he's earned that spot.

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Speaker 6: He's in his fourth year with Kurtzaghetti and defensive coordinator

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Speaker 6: Bryant Hayines Aidane Fisher is one of those guys that

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Speaker 6: he just keeps progressing. He keeps improving his draft stock,

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Speaker 6: but he's not doing it for himself. He does it

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Speaker 6: for his team, and that's why he's so good.

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Speaker 1: I watched, obviously, the Ohio State game championship game, and

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Speaker 1: the defense was terrific. And so was a player in

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Speaker 1: that game that I want to give a little bit

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Speaker 1: of attention to, and that was Isaiah Jones, who's an

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Speaker 1: Ohio guy. He's from right up the road between here

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Speaker 1: and Columbus London, Ohio had terrific game against Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: I'll watch him even in games where you look at

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Speaker 1: the numbers and you say to yourself, well, okay, I

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Speaker 1: don't see the numbers, but a boy, did I see

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Speaker 1: him flying around? The UCLA game comes immediately to mind

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Speaker 1: a little bit about Isaiah Jones because it seems to

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Speaker 1: me that he doesn't really get the attention I think

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Speaker 1: he deserves. Do you feel that as well?

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Speaker 6: I think that him nor Elijah Hardy, the other linebacker,

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Speaker 6: get the attention they deserve. Everything really goes to Ayden

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Speaker 6: Fisher deservingly, should I say, But Isaiah Jones and Elijah

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Speaker 6: Hardy make this defense go Indiana. Brian Haines just runs

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Speaker 6: some incredible skime. He schemes incredible blitzes. He puts Jones

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Speaker 6: and Hardy in in great positions to succeed. But he

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Speaker 6: flies all over the place, does Isaiah Jones. He he's

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Speaker 6: someone that goes under the radar, but as soon as

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Speaker 6: you see him coming off the edge, it's it's game

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Speaker 6: over if he gets around that offensive lineman or whoever is

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Speaker 6: going to attempt to block me. Five tackles for loss

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Speaker 6: is the other day, and the sacks might not come

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Speaker 6: in in Indiana really only had three, and two of

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Speaker 6: them came from Daniel and Dukeway. But it starts with

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Speaker 6: that trio of linebackers with Fisher, with Joanes and with

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Speaker 6: Elijah Hardy. So he's one of those guys that he

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Speaker 6: stuck around after Tom Allen was tired. He begged to

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Speaker 6: get on to the roster under Kurtzignetti.

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Speaker 4: And Bryan Taydes. And he's really.

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Speaker 6: Done a fantastic job. Might not have done a whole

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Speaker 6: lot last year, but he has just gotten better, even

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Speaker 6: more so than Aiden. Fisher just keeps getting better and

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Speaker 6: he's really he's only a junior. He'll be back next

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Speaker 6: year and he'll likely be taking that Aiden fisher role.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're chatting with Josh Poe's Inside the Hall

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Speaker 1: dot com, great destination for all things i U athletics.

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Speaker 1: All right, here comes Miami. It's a home game for Miami.

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Speaker 1: As you look at that game, what do you think

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Speaker 1: Miami does? That presents the biggest problem for Indiana either

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Speaker 1: side of the ball.

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Speaker 6: It has to be their defense. Can they Ruben Bain

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Speaker 6: Junior is one of the best defensive linemen I have

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Speaker 6: seen in college football. That defensive front scares me the most.

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Speaker 6: But if you look at Indiana's offensive line, they've had

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Speaker 6: a couple of hiccups in games, but they seem to

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Speaker 6: patch it up. So it really boils down to the

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Speaker 6: trenches as it does in most college football games at

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Speaker 6: this point. But I think if the defensive line play

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Speaker 6: for Miami shows up, then we're going to have a really, really,

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Speaker 6: really good game.

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Speaker 1: Let's flip that just a little bit. Because Malachai Tony

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Speaker 1: is the big target for Beck's got nine touchdown passes. CJ.

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Speaker 1: Daniels is terrific as well, He's got seven. He put

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Speaker 1: in Keelan Marion who has seven, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you've got a trio of receivers that Carson Beck and

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Speaker 1: throw to. And then of course you have Mark Fletcher.

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Speaker 1: Fletcher is he'll probably finish this year somewhere north of

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Speaker 1: eleven hundred and fifty yards. He's their go to guy

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01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 1: and me he's averaging five four or five five per

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01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: game per carry, and he's the guy that go to

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Speaker 1: when they want to run, and they want to run

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Speaker 1: and they want to get the ball in the end

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Speaker 1: zone running. So I'm just wondering, from an offensive standpoint

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Speaker 1: against that Indiana defense, which has played very, very well,

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Speaker 1: how do you see that scenario playing out.

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Speaker 6: I think it's going to be fascinating. You always see

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Speaker 6: this time of your team, unless it's a rematch. You here, Oh,

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Speaker 6: Miami's never seen a team like Indiana, or Indiana has

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01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 6: never seen an offense like Miami. I think that Miami's

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01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 6: really hot right now. They're very streaky. I mean, Carson

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01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 6: Beck has been up and down in the in the

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Speaker 6: two losses this year, he's been he's been strugglings. He's

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Speaker 6: backed up right now. Malachai Tony, you talk about Carson

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Speaker 6: Beck being forty something years old, Tony just turned eighteen

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01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 6: a couple months ago, so he was impressive. I think

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Speaker 6: this Indiana defense, if you give Kurt Signetti and Bryant

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01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 6: Haynes time to prepare, they will know everything that you

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Speaker 6: do and everything that you'll run. I think that Miami's

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01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 6: offense plays really hard, really quick, like you said, but

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Speaker 6: it's up to Indiana's defense. They've been able to control

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Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage. They've been able to control well,

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Speaker 6: everything in front of them. They don't get beat deep.

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Speaker 6: That was a little bit of an issue early in

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Speaker 6: the season. They gave up a seventy five years touchdown

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01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 6: on the first play of their season, mind you, and

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01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 6: then a big one against Illinois. But that doesn't happen anymore.

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01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 6: They've got the guys. So I think this could be

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Speaker 6: a low scoring game, at least for Miami.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh pose inside Thehall dot Com, as he wrote

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01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: in his game story, making history is all Indiana knows

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01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: right now. The Hoosiers, I'm not reciting Othello to Shakespeare here, Josh,

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01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: so just don't get too wrapped up in what I'm

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01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: doing here. But the Hoosiers, he said, became the first

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01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: team since eighteen ninety six to score fifty five points

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01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 1: or more and win by thirty points or more in

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Speaker 1: seven different games in a single season, two of which

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01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: came against top ten opponents. That's just how good it

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01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: is right now at Indiana and for an IU football fan.

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Speaker 1: All right, Josh, I'll be looking to see what you're

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01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 1: right from today on out. But for your time today,

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01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: thank you and good luck. Enjoy the game, Okay, thanks, Jed.

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Speaker 1: I will yeah, seven and a half points. That's the

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Speaker 1: current spread I'm looking at here. It is Miami plus

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01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 1: seven and a half. I think Indiana covers. I think

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01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: Indiana wins this game handily. No disrespect to the you.

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01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: I just think the ad is just stronger on all

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01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. We'll see. That's why they play

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01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: the games. It's one fifty four straight ahead. Red flags.

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01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: Red flags in the hiring process, jobs are tough to

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01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 1: come by, and if they are, and if you're interviewing,

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01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: avoid this when you're trying to get hired. We'll get

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01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: into that at two o'clock. Then down the road. This

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01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: is the this is the bluest day of the year

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01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: emotionally for people. Why is that. We'll get into that

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01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: as well. It's the average American in for the great

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01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 1: American glad you're a long two on seven hundred w

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01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: l W. All Right off we go on hour number

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01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 1: three to all eight here in the tri State, bracing

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01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: for what could be Isa Geddon. It's gonna be cold

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01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: tonight and it looks like there might be some some snow.

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Speaker 1: Lare in looking at some of the national models. No, no,

1356
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: not those models, just the you know, the weather stuff.

1357
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: Looks like it could be an adventurous weekend coming up. Nevertheless,

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01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: here we are back again, the average American in for

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01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: the great American. If you're looking for a job, you know,

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01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: it's not an easy thing to do. Well, it's easy,

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01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: I guess to look, it's not an easy thing to

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Speaker 1: land a job. I mean, just look at the twenty

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01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: twenty five stats. In calendar year twenty twenty five, this,

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01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: according to the government, about five hundred and eighty four

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01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: thousand jobs were added. You say, Ken, that sounds like

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Speaker 1: a lot. No, it was one of the weakest years

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Speaker 1: for job growth since the pandemic. That's about forty nine

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01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: thousand jobs per month, far less than the two million

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01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: jobs that were added in the final year of Joe

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01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: Biden's administration. Joe Biden two million jobs added. Now, again

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01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,839
Speaker 1: we can quibble on the numbers and what those jobs

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Speaker 1: were and why those jobs were added, because a lot

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01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: of companies were back on their feet. They had let

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Speaker 1: people go or they shut down certain operations during COVID,

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01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: and they had a higher back up to get back

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01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: on their feet. But by and large, it was not

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01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: a good year for jobs in this country. And so

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01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: now here you may be in twenty twenty six thinking

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01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 1: I'd like to maybe enhance myself here. I'd like maybe

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01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: to make a little bit more money, work at a

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01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: place that's more tailored towards me. Four point four percent

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01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 1: of the population is out of work. That's about seven

1383
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: and a half million people. The biggest demographic that's out

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01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: of work are teens. About sixteen percent of the I

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01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: guess employee eligible teens are out of work. So if

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01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: you're out there and you're looking for a job, there

1387
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 1: are a few do's and don'ts. They're the obvious ones,

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01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: and that is, you know, if you go to a

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01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:56,759
Speaker 1: job interview, dress appropriately, if you're doing it by zoom,

1390
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 1: don't have like your garage in the background own And

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01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: if you are interviewing for a job. According to the CEO,

1392
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 1: of ballin branch, balling branches, I guess a Lenen company,

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01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 1: betting and things like that. According to CEO Scott Tennan,

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01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,759
Speaker 1: about two hundred and seventy five employees in his company,

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01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: and he says he's interviewed upwards of a thousand people

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01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 1: and hired four to five hundred over the course of

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01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: bull and Branch existence. And he says, whatever he's interviewing someone,

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01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: whether it's an intern or maybe somebody for the C suite,

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01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: Scott Tennant says, make sure to ask one question, what

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01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: do you know about ballin branch, And if the prospective

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01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: employee can't answer that, they don't get hired. It would

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01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,919
Speaker 1: be I would think the same way for every single company.

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01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: Do a little research or you might be left at

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01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: the post. Somebody who knows that is my next guest,

1405
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 1: David Cathy's been on my show many many times. He's

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01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: a hiring expert, and that's because he's a part partner

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01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: in a business called Unity Search Group. It's one of

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01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: the top recruiting companies in the country. And there are

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01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: some really big dues and don'ts that people aren't following,

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01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: and that might be a reason why you may lose

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01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: out on a job in twenty twenty six. Let's bring

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01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 1: them on in. David, Kathy, how are you on this

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01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 1: glorious Monday.

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01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 5: We are doing fantastic ken, just a fantastic, great time

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01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 5: of year.

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01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 1: Oh, it is a great time of the year, really

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01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: and truly, you know, you get to be our age, David.

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01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: There's really not a bad time of the year, right

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01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 1: who we're here?

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01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 4: Oh, that is true.

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01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 1: I found this article interesting. Red flags and hiring. The

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01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: hiring process is an awkward process. I know, more so

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01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: perhaps for the interview e than the interviewer. But there

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01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: are some things if you're going on a job interview,

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01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: they just seem like common sense, but yet it's people

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01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: violate these unspoken truths about interviewing. Number one I think

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01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: is how you dress. I mean, don't look like you're

1428
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: going out to run a marathon or something like that.

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01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:06,839
Speaker 1: Put some good clothes on, right.

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01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 5: And I mean how you dress.

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01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

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01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 5: Well, there's two components here. Number one, you've got to

1433
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 5: try to figure out how if you can dress a

1434
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 5: notch above the interviewer. So how do you do that? Well,

1435
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 5: do your research, try to figure out what the environment's like, there.

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01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 5: If it's a business casual dress business. The trickier part

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01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:32,560
Speaker 5: now is zoom interviews interviews on teams, because that's more relaxed,

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01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 5: and you might be sitting at your home office or

1439
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 5: desk or kitchen table. Who knows you have a tendency

1440
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 5: to be more relaxed and you have a tendency to

1441
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 5: dress down, and that is an absolute trap and you've

1442
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 5: got to take it through. This is a this is

1443
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 5: a job interview for goodness sake, right, we've got to

1444
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 5: take this serious, right.

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01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 1: So dress up from from But if the company is business,

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01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 1: that does not necessarily mean you should put on formal hire,

1447
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: right You don't need to walk in in a tucks

1448
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: and a bow.

1449
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 5: Tie, no, no, absolutely not. You kind of got to

1450
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 5: know what your company is in, right, So if they're

1451
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 5: in a investment banking or maybe some private equity firms,

1452
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 5: they're probably going to be in a suit, so you

1453
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 5: would wear If the company is a manufacturing company, which

1454
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 5: is jeans and a polo, often, well you're probably in

1455
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 5: maybe a nice polo or button up shirt and some takis.

1456
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,679
Speaker 5: You're just trying to take it up at least one

1457
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 5: notch sure from what the company.

1458
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: Is, and we're talking about research. Know what you're walking into.

1459
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 1: You should know a little bit certainly about the environment.

1460
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: You should know as much as you can about the

1461
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 1: company you're interviewing with. I think one of the mistakes

1462
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people do is they walk in and

1463
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 1: they try to sell themselves, but they wind up not

1464
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: selling their knowledge of what the company is all about,

1465
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: and it becomes basically interview X. It could fit anywhere

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01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: for the INTERVIEWE. You need to be a little more

1467
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 1: specific in what you're talking about when you're sitting across

1468
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 1: from the person that either as a manager or owns

1469
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: the place. Put a little effort into where you're going

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01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: to or you hope to go to work.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,600
Speaker 5: You could not be more correct. And this one boggles

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01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 5: my mind. So do the research, and not just the

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01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 5: superficial research.

1475
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 3: Right.

1476
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 5: I mean you can go online and you can search

1477
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 5: for maybe a couple of minutes and pull out a

1478
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 5: couple of things that can be very superficial. I'm going

1479
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,600
Speaker 5: to give you an example. We're going to take a

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01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 5: publicly traded and a non publicly traded company. If I'm

1481
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 5: going to go into a company and they say, hey, David,

1482
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 5: you know tell us a little bit what you've learned

1483
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 5: about our organization? Am I going to answer, Well, I

1484
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 5: know that y'all are publicly traded Like that is so superficial.

1485
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 5: I'm going to drive more into details. And here's a

1486
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 5: couple of easily easy hacks for people. Go to the

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01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 5: about us section of their website, where it talks about

1488
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 5: largely the organization, the story of the organization. Go to

1489
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 5: the product. Make sure you understand and look and know

1490
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 5: those products, specially if it's consumer products, because that may

1491
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 5: be sitting in your bathroom or in your kitchen. Sure,

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01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 5: and you want to refer to that in the interview.

1493
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 5: You know, oh, I've realized that. You know, you may

1494
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 5: manufacture dice in vacuums. I actually have used that all

1495
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 5: the time. My mom, in fact, loves them. And then

1496
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 5: you can kind of go down and tell a personal

1497
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 5: story that relates to it.

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Speaker 1: Sure zoom makes everything a little more difficult. It's there's

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Speaker 1: no nuance to it. It's a two dimensional kind of

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Speaker 1: an interview. But I'm reading here where it only takes

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Speaker 1: about ninety seconds for an interviewer to decide whether or

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01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 1: not to hire you, which means you'd better come out

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01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 1: of the gate, ready to go. But you can oversell

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01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,719
Speaker 1: it too. I mean, there's a fine line that works

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Speaker 1: there is they're not.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 5: There is a fine line in everything that we do,

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Speaker 5: especially when you're interviewing, because that's an important component. And yeah,

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Speaker 5: I think there are times, especially in Zoom, where there

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01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 5: are some basics you need to do. You need to smile,

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01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 5: you need to have a clear background or a good

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01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 5: background on your Zoom can. One time we had a

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01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 5: guy interview at a client and he decided to interview

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Speaker 5: in front of his liquor cabinet, and so behind him

1515
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 5: is all of his liquor. That is not something that

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01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 5: you should be doing. So check your surroundings, check what

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01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 5: you're wearing. And here's a tricky, tricky one that I

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01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 5: always advise people it's really hard to do. Is that

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01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 5: if you're looking at the screen you want to come

1520
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 5: across as you're making eye contact on Zoom, well, that

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01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 5: means that you're looking at that little tiny dot at

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01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 5: the top of your monitor. That doesn't mean that you're

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01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 5: looking at the screen, And so you need to spend

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01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,759
Speaker 5: as much time as you can looking at that dot

1525
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 5: because the receiver thinks you are looking at them in

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01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 5: their eye and eye contact is such a critical component

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01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 5: of interviewing, sure is.

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Speaker 1: And you know, even if you don't have a place

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01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:03,679
Speaker 1: to do zoom that's clean or appealing to the eye,

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01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: you can download backgrounds for zoom. You know, I would

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01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: not necessarily, you know, put myself in a position where

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01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm standing in front of the Eiffel Tower or anything

1533
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 1: like that. But I mean, if you absolutely have to,

1534
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 1: you can get backgrounds for zooms now. And I've done

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01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: that a great times.

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01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 5: You know, great recommendation can great recommendation, and there's a

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01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 5: lot of everything out Here's the other thing, real quick,

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01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 5: if I would add this is okay, we are in

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01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five. Largely the world has been some component

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01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:42,719
Speaker 5: of remote since COVID twenty twenty. Whether you are currently

1541
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 5: remote or not, there was some component of working remote.

1542
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 5: So please know how teams or zoom works. You don't

1543
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 5: want to provide the feedback at this point in time

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01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 5: to the interviewer. Sorry, I was five or ten. I

1545
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 5: couldn't get scenes or Zoom or whatever device you're on

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01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 5: to actually work. It's one of my first times using it.

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01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 1: This may sound like I'm trying to damn an entire generation.

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01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: But when gen Zers interact, they don't always look at you.

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01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 1: They kind of look past you. It's kind of like

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01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 1: a blank stare. And I don't know if that's because

1551
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: they live most of their lives on devices and most

1552
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 1: of their interaction is done in characters as opposed to

1553
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 1: the spoken word. But practice talk to your mom, talk

1554
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:32,719
Speaker 1: to your dad, put them in front of you or whatever.

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01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 1: But at least get to a point where you have

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01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 1: some expression and some interest.

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01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, Ken, I mean, I'm going to give you some

1558
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 5: quick hits, real quick, especially for I hate to say

1559
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 5: it too, maybe that generation that Hey, look, I'm gen

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01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 5: X and we don't have everything right. We've got a

1561
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 5: lot of things right, but we certainly don't have everything right.

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01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 5: Practicing practice in a mirror. If you don't have, if

1563
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 5: you live by yourself, practice practice with your pet. But

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01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 5: just rehearse before you go into the interview. Pull the

1565
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 5: visor down on your car, get into the parking lot

1566
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 5: fifteen minutes early, pull the visor down on your car,

1567
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 5: and just go through what your intro is going to be.

1568
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 5: When you say hi and a smile. A couple of

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01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 5: things I would not do. I would not have my

1570
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 5: first question be about maternity leave or PTO or benefits

1571
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 5: or what does this position pay? That is a huge no, no.

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01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 5: One other thing that I would mention along those lines,

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01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 5: And you know, kind of with that practice is you

1574
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 5: have to have the ability to articulate in detail what

1575
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 5: your experience is and how that applies to this role.

1576
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 5: The yes knows questions add content something that the interviewer

1577
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 5: can sink their piece into, so they walk away from

1578
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 5: that meeting going, man, some really knows their stuff, and

1579
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 5: I can see why they would be a good fit

1580
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 5: for this position instead of just one line answers, which

1581
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,520
Speaker 5: to the point that you were making. For the generation

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01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:15,839
Speaker 5: that we've been talking about here, when they do interact

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01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 5: often it can be very short, punchy answers. Well, you

1584
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 5: want to elaborate on why this interviewer would be crazy

1585
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 5: to not get you a second round interview or the job.

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01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And whatever you do, don't bring your mom

1587
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: or your dad to the interview. Did you see that story?

1588
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: What about a year ago, forty percent of gen Zers

1589
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 1: brought a parent to a job interview. I wouldn't even

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01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: bring that that interview. I wouldn't bring them into my office,

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01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 1: I'd say go home with mommy. I can't believe people

1592
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Speaker 1: do that. What you probably saw the same thing, right.

1593
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean we've we've seen that. We've seen mom

1594
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 5: and dad driving them to the interview. We've had parents,

1595
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 5: you know, we're recruiting in a stack. We've had mom

1596
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 5: and dad walk into our office with their son or

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01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 5: daughter to help them meet with us to get a job.

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01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 5: Like these are some things that you know you're a professional,

1599
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 5: and companies want the best people. It is incredibly competitive

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01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 5: in the job market. And also just don't this isn't

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01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 5: about just getting a job. You need to demonstrate that

1602
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 5: you want this for your career. Jobs come and go,

1603
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 5: careers stay, and so you really need to think through

1604
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 5: and be able to answer the question not just do

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01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 5: I want this job, but how are you presenting yourself

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01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,680
Speaker 5: that you want this as your career and how you

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01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 5: are going to develop. And I want to go back

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01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 5: to one point that you had said earlier when you

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01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 5: were talking about the younger generation. Here I am picking

1610
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 5: on them again. We really got to stop this. You know,

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01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 5: everything is shortened, everything is in reels or shorts, our twenty.

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Speaker 11: Second clips and maintaining attention in an view is incredibly important.

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01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 11: Maintaining attention because when you do not maintain attention, you

1614
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 11: come across as distracted. What that looks like is I'm

1615
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 11: maintaining good eye contact. Maybe I'm even taking notes on

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01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 11: what they are saying. And by the way, if you're

1617
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,679
Speaker 11: on a zoom interview and you're typing notes, I would

1618
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 11: suggest writing notes because if you're typing and off to

1619
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 11: the side, even though you may be taking notes to

1620
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 11: the person on the other end of the screen, it

1621
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 11: comes across as this person's getting the answers on chat,

1622
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 11: GPT or they're completely distracted.

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01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:43,799
Speaker 5: So back to maintaining interest and attention. It's the I contact,

1624
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 5: it's taking notes, it's sitting up in your chair. These

1625
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 5: are all these little visual nodding your head. There are

1626
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 5: visual and verbal cues that allow you to maintain interests

1627
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 5: that come across positively to the interviewer.

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01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 1: Sure, and smile a little bit, and for what, for

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01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: God's sake, don't play with your hair. That's the other

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01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: thing I would do. I would tell them don't play

1631
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 1: with your hair. Uh, David, this is good stuff. David

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01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:14,600
Speaker 1: Kathy Again, he is with the Unity search group. You

1633
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 1: can find them at unitysearch dot com and he has

1634
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 1: been there a very long time. It's one of the

1635
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: top recruiting country companies in the country. All right, David,

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01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 1: we appreciate your time here.

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01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 5: You bet sen always good talking to you.

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01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 1: Yep, you bet Yeah, don't play with your hair. If

1639
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 1: it's zoom, look into the camera. We'll look at the screen.

1640
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: Look into the camera that's right there. And then when

1641
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 1: you go in, if you're lucky enough to get in

1642
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 1: for an in person interview, you got to know something

1643
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: about the company going in. It's not hard. I mean,

1644
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 1: come on, figure out what the job is, what the

1645
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 1: what the the the rudiments of that job entail, and

1646
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 1: what the company does and how it's done. It's it

1647
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: made a lot of money. It's it had rough time

1648
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,719
Speaker 1: times lately. But I think the thing he said initially

1649
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 1: was fascinating. Find out who's doing the interview and how

1650
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:12,560
Speaker 1: they dress, and then dress accordingly. If they dress in

1651
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 1: a suit coat and tie, or if it's a female

1652
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 1: interviewer and she's in address, then you wear a suit

1653
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 1: coat and tie if you were a male candidate, or

1654
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 1: a dress if you're a woman candidate. I mean, this

1655
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,839
Speaker 1: stuff is not tough to figure out, but apparently people

1656
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: just aren't accustomed to in person interviews anymore. Is that

1657
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 1: your fault. No, not necessarily, but it doesn't mean you're

1658
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 1: not going to get tagged with the responsibility to twenty five.

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01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 1: On this Monday afternoon, Martin Luther King Junior Day, we

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01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. We again as we began

1661
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 1: the show by extending our thoughts about MLK Jr. On

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01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 1: this day, just a great man of man of vision,

1663
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: man of compassion, man left this earth part too early.

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01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: And I hope if you have the day off, that

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01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:07,879
Speaker 1: you're utilizing it wisely when we come back. For most

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01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: despite being a holiday, today is the bluest day of

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01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 1: the year, Blue Monday. Why is that standing by someone

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01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 1: who not only knows what you can do about it?

1669
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: Way do you hear what he's up to at the

1670
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 1: end of this month? If you want to talk about

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01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: a challenge, we'll continue next on seven hundred WLW June

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01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 1: thirty eight. On this Monday, welcome back the average American

1673
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: in for the great American and thrill that you're with us.

1674
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,560
Speaker 1: You know, today's a tough day for some people. Apparently

1675
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 1: this is Blue Monday that is a phrase that was

1676
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 1: coined gosh, about twenty years ago by a psychologist by

1677
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 1: the name of Cliff Arnil R. Now, it's normally the

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01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 1: third Monday of the year, and it, I guess, is

1679
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 1: a conglomeration of weather data, the debt you might have

1680
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:09,759
Speaker 1: accrued because of the holidays, the time that has passed

1681
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 1: since the holidays, and then of course the New year's

1682
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 1: resolutions that you never follow anyway. So it's probably more

1683
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 1: like blue season, just not blue Monday. And for some

1684
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:24,719
Speaker 1: people it's very real. Some people suffer from something called

1685
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 1: seasonal effective disorder SAD, which is a type of depression

1686
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 1: triggered by seasonal changes. So if you're feeling a little

1687
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 1: down today, you're not alone. If you're in the middle

1688
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 1: of January and you just feel down because of that,

1689
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 1: you're not alone. And my gosh, here comes snow this

1690
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 1: coming weekend, and here come wind chills tonight that are

1691
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:47,799
Speaker 1: going to make it feel bitterly cold. It's not something

1692
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 1: that's atypical. But once you're in it, how to get

1693
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 1: out of it? Well, now, maybe somebody that can help.

1694
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 1: Bal Josie is somewhat of an athlete, In fact, a

1695
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 1: great athlete we'll talk about in just a second. He's

1696
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 1: also a positive mindset expert, and who doesn't want somebody

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01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: like that in their lives? So let's welcome in on

1698
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 1: this blue Monday, and Val Josie, how are you on

1699
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 1: this glorious day?

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01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 8: Very well, thanks for having me.

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01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 1: So what is a positive mindset expert? Explain that and

1702
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: tell me why I need one of those in my life.

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01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 8: I don't think anyone need an expert on positive mindset.

1704
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 4: It's something that you do.

1705
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:29,520
Speaker 5: So a lot of people.

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01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 8: Mistaken with the positive mindset is with something pretending to

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01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 8: be everything is great. There's no stress, ignoring stress, or

1708
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 8: forcing yourself to smile through the pain. That is not

1709
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 8: a positive mindset. What positive mindset is, it's just you

1710
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 8: accept the reality as it is. You control what you can,

1711
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 8: and you take responsibility for your next step.

1712
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:57,480
Speaker 4: It's about direction, not denial. So if you are trying.

1713
01:31:57,240 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 8: To find an aspiration, perhaps let's look down and find

1714
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 8: courage and strength to do the hard things.

1715
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 1: Sure well, there are always people who view the proverbial

1716
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 1: glass of water half full, or those that view it

1717
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 1: half empty. You said, positive mindset is it's a matter

1718
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:17,720
Speaker 1: of looking at things. But I mean, some people in

1719
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: this world and they've had a lot of things thrown

1720
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 1: at them, from a financial, from a medical, from a

1721
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 1: personal standpoint, and so they get up in the morning

1722
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 1: and things aren't really going all their way. It's a

1723
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 1: little difficult, don't you think for some people to have

1724
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:32,759
Speaker 1: that mindset you're talking about.

1725
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 8: Absolutely But if you find a little clarity in our thinking,

1726
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 8: let's just say, positive thinking does not make harder things easy.

1727
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 8: It doesn't remove the challenges that we face.

1728
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 5: What it does is it gives strength.

1729
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 8: To move through them. And when your mind says this

1730
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 8: is too much, I cannot bear this, I cannot handle this,

1731
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 8: but the positive thinking says, well, let's just take one

1732
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 8: more step.

1733
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 5: That's it.

1734
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 4: Just one more step, one more mile, just one more day.

1735
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. In other words, if you're you know, you're in

1736
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,799
Speaker 1: bed and things are you know, the world is tilted

1737
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:14,879
Speaker 1: against you, first step is get the hell out of bed, right.

1738
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 8: And that is absolutely correct.

1739
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:18,599
Speaker 4: Yes, move.

1740
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 8: I think it has the magical power to change our mindset.

1741
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 4: Just get out of the house.

1742
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 8: Just move for five minutes, ten minutes, it doesn't matter.

1743
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 1: Do you do you subscribe to this theory that seasonal

1744
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 1: effective disorder is real and that some people actually suffer

1745
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 1: from that.

1746
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 8: Absolutely, it is real. In fact, there's a reason why

1747
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 8: it is real. So, first of all, the holiday's excitements

1748
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 8: are over, you know, Thanksgiving to Christmas to New Year,

1749
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 8: that is over now. If you remember, we, most of us,

1750
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 8: we made a lot of resolutions during during the New Year,

1751
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 8: and now we are finding the reality it's much harder

1752
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 8: than we thought it's going to be, so that is

1753
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 8: fading away as well. And then also the winter's days

1754
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 8: are long, and it's dark and it's cold.

1755
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 4: People don't want to.

1756
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 8: Go outside, so by physically, emotionally, and financially, it's a

1757
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 8: challenging period for everyone being will start to show up.

1758
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 8: All the spending, that's spending that we have done in

1759
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 8: the last few weeks or towards the end of the

1760
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 8: year or beginning of the year, they starting to show up.

1761
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 8: So life gets real. And when that happens, we could

1762
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 8: feel overwhelmed.

1763
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 4: That's very normal to feel that way.

1764
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 1: Well, we've got a little bit of sunlight here in

1765
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 1: Cincinnati today. We're going to have some tomorrow too, But

1766
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:47,679
Speaker 1: by and large, from the start of December until about

1767
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 1: the beginning of April, the sun is only a rumor

1768
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: around here. So if you have a bit of sunlight

1769
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 1: today or tomorrow, as bitterly cold as it is, get

1770
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 1: out and just maybe take a short walk, maybe I

1771
01:34:57,880 --> 01:34:59,640
Speaker 1: get ten or fifteen minute walk and get some of

1772
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:00,040
Speaker 1: that vie.

1773
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:06,480
Speaker 8: Right, Absolutely, that is absolutely so what it is. Momentum

1774
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 8: beats motivation. We don't need a motivation. We just need

1775
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 8: to be active. Well for a walk, get some sunlight,

1776
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 8: drink water, called someone, just move your body right down.

1777
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 4: One goal.

1778
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 1: That's all, yeah and everything. I think most ailments in

1779
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 1: life they're all related. I think to how you get

1780
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:30,759
Speaker 1: to sleep, and if you don't sleep well, it triggers

1781
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 1: a lot of other things. It triggers stressors inside the

1782
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:37,839
Speaker 1: body that could affect things like your gut, could affect

1783
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 1: your heart, could affect some other maladies you could contract.

1784
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 1: So I think number one we all talk about it.

1785
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how there's any panacea here for it,

1786
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 1: but get a good night's sleep. If you can get

1787
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 1: a good night's sleep, that probably helps all of these

1788
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:55,639
Speaker 1: other things fall into place.

1789
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 4: Right, you could not have said it better.

1790
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,879
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Okay, how are you sleeping?

1791
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 4: That's a challenge for me as a runner.

1792
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 8: I recover during my sleep, so there is always an

1793
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 8: effort to sleep well. And the way that I have

1794
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 8: practice better sleep is to set schedule, go to bed

1795
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 8: at the same time and wake up at the same time.

1796
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 8: Whether I want to or I don't want to, that's

1797
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 8: a different story. But having discipline. Discipline is the key,

1798
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:29,679
Speaker 8: not the motivation.

1799
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 1: Bal Josie says he's a runner. That's like Shakespeare saying, yeah,

1800
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 1: I wrote a couple of books. Bal Josie is about

1801
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 1: to take on something that to me, I couldn't even think.

1802
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 1: I get tired looking at this. But starting on the

1803
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 1: end of this month, thirty first of this month of January,

1804
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 1: You're going to be running seven marathons on seventh continents

1805
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 1: in seven days? Am I right about that? Seven marathons,

1806
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 1: seventh continents and seven days? Is that right?

1807
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 4: That is correct?

1808
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 1: Why?

1809
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 8: Uh? Normally, if if if this interview was a face

1810
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 8: to face, I would.

1811
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:12,599
Speaker 4: Have asked why not it's normally? It's uh.

1812
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 8: I'm doing it to do for the two things. Number One,

1813
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 8: trying to find We all have our perceived limitations and boundaries,

1814
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 8: and I'm trying to find my own. What is my

1815
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 8: perceived limitation? What is that boundary how far can I

1816
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 8: possibly stretch? That is that's kind of a number of

1817
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 8: the quest of finding myself.

1818
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 4: That's number one. Number two.

1819
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 5: Every continants have it's.

1820
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 4: Their own challenges.

1821
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 2: And I am someone that.

1822
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 8: Who always likes to pick up a charity or a

1823
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 8: cause for any run that I do. And so it's

1824
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:48,719
Speaker 8: this is my way of uh raising awareness and raise

1825
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 8: funds for seven different causes that are important to these

1826
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:57,839
Speaker 8: seven different continents, from Antarctica global warming to North America

1827
01:37:57,920 --> 01:37:59,440
Speaker 8: with the child's obesity.

1828
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 4: So these are the causes that.

1829
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 8: That are that are that are very close to me,

1830
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 8: and I'm passionate about these causes and and and see

1831
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 8: if we could raise some funds as well as raise awareness.

1832
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's wonderful, to be honest with you,

1833
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 1: I I can't imagine someone who is has this advocation

1834
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 1: of using it in a better way. But let's talk

1835
01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 1: about logistics. Okay, you're going to run a marathon, and

1836
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 1: then I would think you're going to have to get

1837
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 1: on a plane and fly to another continent, get off

1838
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,719
Speaker 1: that plane, adjust to that time period, and then run

1839
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 1: another marathon the next day. That that that can't be easy, right,

1840
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean you've thought this out as to how the

1841
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,679
Speaker 1: logistics of this work. So how do they work?

1842
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:45,639
Speaker 8: So Luckily it's a it's a very formal organized race.

1843
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:47,880
Speaker 8: So there's a group of people I think up to

1844
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 8: fifty people that would be doing it together.

1845
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 4: So we will all be together.

1846
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 8: So as you said, we will finish the race in

1847
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 8: one continent and then get on the plane, go through

1848
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 8: the same UH airport and transit and immigration and custom

1849
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 8: and all of that, and then once you exit the

1850
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 8: airport there will be a race site. Well, we will

1851
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 8: be running there and we'll do that for seven times

1852
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 8: until we reach Miami and finish the race in Miami

1853
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 8: on the sixth of February.

1854
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

1855
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 8: The logistics are arranged at least, that's a that's a

1856
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 8: good thing about this. All we have to do is

1857
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:26,799
Speaker 8: just finish the race strong and and avoid injuries and

1858
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:30,560
Speaker 8: ready for next next contents and next race. Now, the

1859
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 8: one challenge with this is you there there are no

1860
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 8: allocated time for sleep other than what you do on

1861
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:41,240
Speaker 8: the plane. I am personally on the side I don't

1862
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 8: I don't sleep well on the plane when things are moving,

1863
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 8: I do not sleep well. So that is going to

1864
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 8: be a challenge for me. But the rest of the

1865
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 8: other logistics are arranged. At least that's something that we

1866
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 8: don't have to worry about.

1867
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 1: Okay, But the body needs time to regenerate. So you know,

1868
01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 1: some people, we have one of the finest marit thons

1869
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:03,439
Speaker 1: in the world here in Cincinnati. It's the Flying Pig Marathon.

1870
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 1: It's every it's every May, and obviously it's for a

1871
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:10,120
Speaker 1: lot of marathon ers it's the race they choose to

1872
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 1: run before the Boston Marathon. But I'm just I'm just

1873
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 1: wondering every marathon or I've talked to, when they're done,

1874
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 1: the body has to recover, whether it's an ice bath

1875
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 1: or rub down or whatever it may be, to do

1876
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 1: seven seven marathons on seven continents. Are these seven days

1877
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 1: in a row you're doing this or is there time

1878
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:31,679
Speaker 1: in between each marathon?

1879
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 8: No, it's a seven consecutive days, seven days in the room.

1880
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 1: Well, how are you going? How this? This is I

1881
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 1: think the most fascinating part. How do you recover then

1882
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 1: so that you're you're ready to go on the next

1883
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 1: day because you're going to spend a lot of time

1884
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 1: in an airplane and going through customs, and you're going

1885
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 1: to have to catch some some some sleep somehow, some way.

1886
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: How do you how are you preparing to prepare your

1887
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 1: body for recovery after the first that would lead you

1888
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 1: to the second that would lead you on through in

1889
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 1: each of these consecutive days.

1890
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 8: So the World Marathon Challenge is the other call set

1891
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 8: in seven seven. It's not really a physical challenge. It's

1892
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 8: beyond physical challenge. It's more of a mental one. You know,

1893
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:19,719
Speaker 8: jet lag, no sleep, cold, heat, different countries, different time zones.

1894
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 8: A body always want to quit before a purpose does.

1895
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 8: So I don't train my legs as much as I

1896
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:30,559
Speaker 8: train my identity. Let us repeat that. We don't train legs,

1897
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 8: We don't train body. We train identity. And what that

1898
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 8: means is I train to become the kind of person

1899
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:39,600
Speaker 8: who finishes.

1900
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 4: What he starts.

1901
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 8: On day four or five, there won't be any motivation available.

1902
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:47,160
Speaker 8: Your body is fatigued and your body don't want to

1903
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 8: get up. But if you are training for identity and

1904
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 8: you want to make sure that that you want to

1905
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:58,600
Speaker 8: become that person who finishes what he starts, that is

1906
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 8: a discipline, and discipline will wake you up and makes

1907
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 8: you make you do The day sixth and the day seventh.

1908
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:09,640
Speaker 1: Well, that goes back to what we talked about a

1909
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 1: few minutes ago, the positive mindset and just it's the

1910
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 1: power of the mind over the body. If the mind

1911
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:19,680
Speaker 1: isn't willing, the body won't follow along. So that that

1912
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 1: kind of folds into what all of this is about.

1913
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 1: Blue season, Blue Monday, how you look at things and

1914
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 1: it sounds like this is all in that same boat, right.

1915
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 8: Absolutely, So yeah, Blue Monday maybe a myth, but winter

1916
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 8: struggles are real.

1917
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 3: It is real.

1918
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 8: Positive mindset does not change the weather, It does not

1919
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,680
Speaker 8: change the outlook. It does not change how tired your

1920
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,680
Speaker 8: body is. But what it does is it changes how

1921
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:50,679
Speaker 8: you walk through the strom, and every strom passes.

1922
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 1: So talk a little bit about You mentioned Miami, so

1923
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Speaker 1: that obviously is the marathon in North America. Then was

1924
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Speaker 1: it Antarctica or Arctic for the other where where where?

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Speaker 1: Let's which one of the ones are you? Are you

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Speaker 1: going to be in both or one or the other?

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Speaker 8: So first day, which is thirty first of this month,

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Speaker 8: is in Antarctica, Antarctica. Second day, yeah, second day is

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Speaker 8: in Cape Town for for Africa. Third day is in Perth, Australia.

1930
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Speaker 8: For Australia, contment. Fourth day is a Dubai for Asia continent,

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Speaker 8: fifth day is in Madrid, Spain for Europe, and sixth

1932
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Speaker 8: day is Brazil for South America. And Miami is the

1933
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Speaker 8: last day seventh day for North America continent.

1934
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Speaker 1: And you know, some of these are basic questions because

1935
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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by you know, what what's happened? Are you

1936
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Speaker 1: are you flying commercial? Or do you guys have a

1937
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Speaker 1: private plane?

1938
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Speaker 5: We do have a private plane.

1939
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Speaker 1: Okay, I was going to say that might be a

1940
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Speaker 1: bit much if you know you're trying to, you know,

1941
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Speaker 1: find out do your board and group one or group two? Okay,

1942
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Speaker 1: So you've got to You've got you've got a private plane,

1943
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Speaker 1: and you're raising awareness for each and every continent that

1944
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Speaker 1: you're in. So you're taking donations. How I mean when

1945
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Speaker 1: people see bal Joshi running, for example, in Miami for

1946
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Speaker 1: child obesity, which is your cause here in North America

1947
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Speaker 1: and all of these other places that you have that

1948
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Speaker 1: you're running in, how do do people contribute? Do you

1949
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Speaker 1: stop and grab some cash along the way from people

1950
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Speaker 1: that are watching you? How do people how do you

1951
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Speaker 1: support these charities?

1952
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Speaker 8: Yeah, so I'm associated with a nonprofit ofable on C

1953
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Speaker 8: three here in the US call a one step foundation,

1954
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Speaker 8: so that all the funds are being raised.

1955
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Speaker 4: Using that platform.

1956
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Speaker 8: Primarily we I tend to raise money through sponsorship rather

1957
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Speaker 8: of individual contribution. Of course, any contribution is welcome and

1958
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Speaker 8: will be received very well.

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Speaker 2: Well.

1960
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Speaker 8: Uh, but the focus is on more of a corporate sponsorship,

1961
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Speaker 8: corporate giving, and then one Step Foundation does the management.

1962
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Speaker 1: So so one Step Foundation is where people can go

1963
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Speaker 1: to if they want to contribute, is what you're saying,

1964
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Speaker 1: One step Foundation.

1965
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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, okay.

1966
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Speaker 1: And a real quick question here, can anybody follow this?

1967
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Speaker 1: Is there a way to follow it online or anything?

1968
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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

1969
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Speaker 8: People can follow me on on Instagram and Facebook is.

1970
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Speaker 4: Running Monk.

1971
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Speaker 8: That's the handle once again bal Joshi the Running Monk,

1972
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Speaker 8: and we will be posting our journey h on the

1973
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Speaker 8: through the social media.

1974
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Speaker 1: Bal Joshi is spelled b A L j O s H.

1975
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Speaker 1: I are you a monk? You live in a sanctuary

1976
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Speaker 1: or a convent? Where do you live?

1977
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Speaker 8: And now I'm a banker, be trade hearing, So.

1978
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Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna be out there in a row.

1979
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Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know chanting.

1980
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Speaker 8: I wish I could well, So the reason they called

1981
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Speaker 8: me running Monk. The reason why the name is given

1982
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Speaker 8: as the running Monk is that I am I'm a

1983
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Speaker 8: runner of who runs to raise money for other people.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's fantastic. Thank you for your time today, good Luck.

1985
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Speaker 1: I wish you a lot of peace along the way

1986
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Speaker 1: and a lot of time to rehabilitate from marathon to marathon.

1987
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Speaker 1: Good Luck, bal thanks for your time here today.

1988
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, thank you very much, and I appreciate you having

1989
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Speaker 8: me on yourself.

1990
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Speaker 1: You bet seven marathons on seven continents in seven days.

1991
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Speaker 1: I'd be ready for seven and seven after that. Two

1992
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Speaker 1: fifty five News Radio seven hundred at WLW