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Speaker 1: latest in Venezuela at eight thirty and right now, the

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Speaker 1: return of Tom z Awastowski. You can find Tom and

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Speaker 1: his organization We the People Convention dot Org right there

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Speaker 1: at We the People Convention dot Org. Tom, it's been

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Speaker 1: youth summinar. Welcome back, man, and happy new year to you.

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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, Brian. It's so good to be with

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Speaker 2: to everyone, and happy turn and fiftieth birthday to America.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a hell of a year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is, and you know it's really the passage

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Speaker 1: We certainly are in need of something to unify us.

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Speaker 2: Well, Brian, I talked on my podcast this week about

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Speaker 2: subject to what's called negative self talk. You stink, you're this,

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Speaker 2: If we can have a year where we're all talking

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Speaker 2: this is fortuitous, but it's participatory. So don't sit back

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Speaker 1: Amen to that. I couldn't agree with you more. And

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Speaker 1: And they also teach the Wok religion that carbon dioxide

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Speaker 2: to people who don't deserve it. But that's a cultural thing, Brian,

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Speaker 1: A cultural problem. Tom's Awastowski, we will continue find his website,

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Speaker 2: No? I mean, come on, we do this every day

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Speaker 2: So two Republicans are right there in the middle of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been We've got to get this done, Brian,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree completely, you know, and I have to

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Speaker 2: Well, it should I mean again, they're billionaires. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: That'd be great. Let's do that. Let's not called capitalism

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Speaker 1: I think it is. And that's how green energy companies

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Speaker 2: Right, huh ah, No chance. We got to stop all

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Speaker 2: of this. We're going to We're on the right path.

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Speaker 2: I want people to have hope in this year. I

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Speaker 2: this is why, Brian, you play such a role. You

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Speaker 2: Your show is more important than ever because we live

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Speaker 2: And that's what we all have to do. Don't lie

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Speaker 2: to yourself, don't lie to your spouse, don't lie to

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Speaker 2: get back to truth and merit, and if we do that,

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Speaker 2: America will be great again.

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Speaker 1: God bless you, sir for saying that. As high praise

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Speaker 1: from you, Sir, I truly respect your opinion. It's a

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Speaker 1: And that shouldn't be that way. But you got to

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Speaker 1: Tom's Awastowski find him at we the People Convention dot org.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the work you're doing. Tom. It's been a pleasure

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Speaker 1: having you back on all the best of health for

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Speaker 1: you and your family in a happy New Year to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, looking forward to talk with you again.

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Speaker 1: Oh you'll be around, Tom, you can count on that

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Speaker 1: You're always welcome here coming up Hamilton County. I'm a

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Speaker 1: police judge. Christopher McDowell speaking,