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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Donovan. It's a new year, and a happy

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Speaker 1: new year to you, sir Brian.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's yeah, I am too, and I know we're

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, and these in particular are these Obamacare subsidies,

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Speaker 2: I point to usaid, there's not enough fraud, waste and

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Speaker 2: He's a real deal and Vivek's lucky to have them.

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Speaker 1: As I pointed out when we started talking again, Donovan,

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Speaker 1: with AFP Donovan O'Neil. I enjoy our discussions. I'll look

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