WEBVTT - 3-11-26 Sloan with Scotty Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to be an American? Scott Sloan back

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<v Speaker 1>on seven hundred WLW so Dwine had his State of

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<v Speaker 1>the Union address or I guess State of the State

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<v Speaker 1>address to be what are called. I'm still in Trump

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<v Speaker 1>mode here because he's coming to town. So four Ohio breweries,

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<v Speaker 1>including two right here in Cincinnati, are taking the governor

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<v Speaker 1>to court over his ban on th drinks. The governmor

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<v Speaker 1>not mentioned this in yesterday State of the State address.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got jobs on the brink and the deadline now

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<v Speaker 1>less than two weeks away. And it seems like those

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans and the Republican legislative body in Ohio Columbus that

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<v Speaker 1>often talk about how Republicans are about business and small

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<v Speaker 1>business and opportunity and growth are very anti business. In

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<v Speaker 1>this case. Scotty Hunter is here. He's the founder and

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<v Speaker 1>co owner of Urban Artifact, one of the four Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>breweries in on this lawsuit against the state. Scotty welcome back,

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<v Speaker 1>having me yeah, of course, by the way, people hear

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<v Speaker 1>this go okay. So it's like one line, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have craft beer and all these other things, and how

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<v Speaker 1>much how much money have you invested in this thing?

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<v Speaker 1>What's on the line here for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, quite quite a lot, you know, not only from

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<v Speaker 2>what we've invested, but what we have projected in our

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<v Speaker 2>business plans moving forward for this year as well. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think people see the headlines, they see the decline

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<v Speaker 2>and alcohol consumption and keep waiting out and things like this,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with the economy the way it is, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>these these beverages were an opportunity to you know, grow

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<v Speaker 2>our businesses in a way that we just can't with alcohol,

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<v Speaker 2>right like you you can, only you don't can do

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<v Speaker 2>so much in terms of changing the consumer's mind. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're seeing just you know a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of shifts and you know, taste, some preferences nationally, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it happens over time, It ebbs and flows.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Before his veto, the Wind's veto Senate Bill fifty

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<v Speaker 1>six allowed THG drinks to remain legal in Ohio throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the end of through this year or through last year anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually you know they're gonna become federally illegal anyway, And

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<v Speaker 1>someone asked, well, why why are you fighting this. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to become illegal in the future by federal edict

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to state.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, and that's and there's a great point there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, part of the language that was also vetoed

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<v Speaker 2>was a note from the legislature that you know, federal

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<v Speaker 2>law were to change on the subject, that they were

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<v Speaker 2>to revisit this and address it, and that that fight

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<v Speaker 2>is still ongoing. And you know, President Trump with his

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<v Speaker 2>executive order a couple of months ago on on cannabis,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, had a section in there about HEMPT and

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<v Speaker 2>addressing that band language that got slipped into the spending

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<v Speaker 2>bill of fall. So, you know, we still fully expect

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<v Speaker 2>federal to get some sort of correction and some guidance.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just they don't. It doesn't move very quickly, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so the fact that Ohio would the governor's line

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<v Speaker 2>with his you know use of the line on in Bido,

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<v Speaker 2>would take away this opportunity to wind out because maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he's right, Maybe the federal government doesn't get anything done.

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<v Speaker 2>So why why do we need to change anything sooner? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>there's clearly an established market for businesses, especially businesses that

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<v Speaker 2>are so key to so many communities across the state

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<v Speaker 2>that either have gotten into this category, we're getting into

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<v Speaker 2>this category. You know, people I know bres across the

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<v Speaker 2>state that hadn't made a product yet or launched a

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<v Speaker 2>product and had made a bunch of production, or spent

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of money on design and materials and research

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<v Speaker 2>and development, and that's and that's all for, not with

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<v Speaker 2>the with the struggle of a pen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it feels that way. I think it's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of things going on. Number one is it just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem right. It seems punitive. It's simply up and

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<v Speaker 1>pull the carpet out from this thing with the federal

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<v Speaker 1>band loombing. But I think what happens is that the

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<v Speaker 1>federal lawmakers look at this and go, wow, look at

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<v Speaker 1>the uprising in Ohio. Look how upset Ohio is in

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty red state. If you will that they want

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<v Speaker 1>this overturned. I think the Feds would look at that

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<v Speaker 1>and go, well, we've got time here to debate in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the legislature and in Congress, and we'll throw

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<v Speaker 1>some of the stuff out there doing on Ohio, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they overturned the federal ban. I know that's the

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<v Speaker 1>hope anyway. But this engine, the fact that you're suing

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<v Speaker 1>right now, I think carries a lot of weight. If

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<v Speaker 1>lawmakers examine it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I agree. I think it's definitely a signal.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's there's you know, there's fights that go on,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in terms of have products in states all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, Ohio is pretty unique and that our legislature

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<v Speaker 2>is almost always in session. They take breaks, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know a lot of legislatures are only in session for

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<v Speaker 2>a few months of the year and then they're they're done. Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost a kind of a constant, constant battle, which

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think people realize that you don't live outside

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<v Speaker 2>of the state.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott, your statement said, this is an unwarned executive overreach.

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<v Speaker 1>Make the legal case in plain english for me. Why

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<v Speaker 1>you believe the governor didn't have the authority to do this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, So it's you know, it goes back to

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<v Speaker 2>the Ohio Constitution and the governor has granted the power

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<v Speaker 2>for a line on and b know, for an item

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<v Speaker 2>of appropriation. And for folks that don't you know, understand

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<v Speaker 2>legald are not in before you know this whole situation.

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<v Speaker 2>An item of appropriation is like addressed, taking like tax

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<v Speaker 2>moneies and dispersing them. Right. So in this bill, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a provision on the tax revenue from recreational marijuana. And

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<v Speaker 2>that was the justification that the governor was using to

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<v Speaker 2>line on and veto other sections of this bill. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's not what the Ohio Constitution says. It says you

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<v Speaker 2>can line on in veto a item relating to an

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<v Speaker 2>appropriation of money. He line on and veto sections relating

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<v Speaker 2>to him defined differently than the state than the marijuana revenue.

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<v Speaker 2>That was but fourth and then further than that, the

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<v Speaker 2>governor has the ability to veto nobody's debating that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but he if he doesn't like a billity, he needs

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<v Speaker 2>to veto the entirety that also goes back to the

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<v Speaker 2>legislator to be worked on and addressed. If the governor

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<v Speaker 2>has allowed this type of unilateral power, then it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of neuters what the legislature is there for, right because

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you, and I'm not going to name names,

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<v Speaker 2>but we have a lot of politicians at the State

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<v Speaker 2>House in our corner on this situation or on this issue,

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, and they would not have passed this bill

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<v Speaker 2>without that carbout like this was instrumental and them accepting

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<v Speaker 2>a deal between all the different folks between the House

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<v Speaker 2>and the Senate to put this through and send it

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<v Speaker 2>over to the governor. So the fact that the governor

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<v Speaker 2>can say, well, you know, you all agreed as representatives

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<v Speaker 2>of the people, but I feel a certain way, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to strike this like that doesn't fly with

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<v Speaker 2>how the Ohio Constitution is written and how the Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>people want to be governs.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any essence and I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 1>applies here or not, Scottie Hunter, that you should be

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<v Speaker 1>grandfathered into the sense is that the Ohio had no

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<v Speaker 1>problem I guess collecting tax revenue from the sale of

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<v Speaker 1>these beverages in the first place they found offensive the

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<v Speaker 1>Health Department. It's all regulated. There's government regulation, federal and

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<v Speaker 1>state in what it is you do. And then after

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a period of a couple of years of

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, they pulled the carpet out underneath from you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess the fair way is okay, no

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<v Speaker 1>more companies can manufacture. But going back and shutting down

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<v Speaker 1>a business they've already they've already regulated, that seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be an interesting legal contradiction there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, And that was the most shocking portion

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<v Speaker 2>of me. You know, the retail cell pieces is one aspect,

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<v Speaker 2>and we see this in the number of states, but

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<v Speaker 2>to disallow for the manufacturer and even you know, we've

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<v Speaker 2>we've heard some rumblings from different agencies that even storage

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<v Speaker 2>in the state will be deemed illegal and that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>anyone with these products, you know, maybe maybe charged as

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<v Speaker 2>it they view it as you know, marijuana at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>So like you know that that is is well beyond

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<v Speaker 2>what the intent of the bill was to do to

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<v Speaker 2>root out the bad actors, because, like you said, we

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<v Speaker 2>were already regulated. We already had a processor's license, suffer

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<v Speaker 2>comp there's clear testing regulations, labeling regulations, and if the

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<v Speaker 2>state really wanted to, you know, regulate the retail side,

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<v Speaker 2>they could have just taken those same rules and regulations

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<v Speaker 2>and populated them from a retail cell that if you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be you know, a hand products sold in

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<v Speaker 2>the state, you have to abide by these rules and regulations.

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<v Speaker 2>And nobody would have argued it would have been straightforward.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm sure there would have been one or

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<v Speaker 2>two people in the state House that would have voted

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<v Speaker 2>against it, but point being, it was a very straightforward

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<v Speaker 2>way to address the bad actors, so to speak, to

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<v Speaker 2>get always kind of thrown out there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a founder and co owner of Urban Artifact Bring

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<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati. Scottie Hunter on the Scott Salon Show seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred Wow, one of four or Ohio breweries taking Governor

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<v Speaker 1>Mike de Wine to Courtover's ban on THHC infused drinks

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<v Speaker 1>and jobs are on the brink with the deadline now

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<v Speaker 1>coming up on the twentieth of March, so less than

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks away. And on that these it was sent

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<v Speaker 1>it Bill fifty six that had the seal through period

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<v Speaker 1>through the end of the year, and that seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>a reasonable compromise to give a chance to you guys

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, retool if you will, or maybe slow

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<v Speaker 1>down the process. But what the Wine blew past that

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<v Speaker 1>and moved the deadline to March twentieth. Why the urgency?

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<v Speaker 1>Any answer from him on that? And also what was

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<v Speaker 1>his beef with THC beverages? We said, I've yet to

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<v Speaker 1>see where he's articulated what his concerns were. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>address those two things?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not I'm not really sure because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for ninety five or more percent of these beverages, they

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<v Speaker 2>were being sold to and through licensed alcohol. Chillers there

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<v Speaker 2>already know how to age date and check for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>levels of intoxication in our time in this category, and

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<v Speaker 2>talking to retailers, especially you know, bars, restaurants, they all

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<v Speaker 2>played this category very conservatives as it was new and

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<v Speaker 2>they were learning about it. So you know, the notion

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<v Speaker 2>that those same retailers couldn't handle, you know, these these

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<v Speaker 2>lotos beverages, it's just kind of crazy to me, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's it doesn't make it doesn't jive right if we

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<v Speaker 2>trust them with you know, full strength spirits, wine, high

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<v Speaker 2>gravity beer, all these things, we should be able to

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<v Speaker 2>trust them with with some lotos PhD beverages because we

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<v Speaker 2>see it there's there's twenty twenty plus states with regulation

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<v Speaker 2>on products across this country. Like this is not unique

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<v Speaker 2>to Ohio. You know, Ohio is not setting some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of precedence here other than an outright band well before

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<v Speaker 2>anything's coming down from the federal perspective, it's we already

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<v Speaker 2>we already know kind of a playbook here nationally, So

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<v Speaker 2>to ignore that just seems crazy to make. And your

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<v Speaker 2>on your question about Governor Dwine and is it is

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<v Speaker 2>beef with the beverage piece specifically I don't know. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the only thing that I saw was he made some

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<v Speaker 2>comment about confusion, customer confusion. If these were allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>remain but not other products, then I don't think the

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<v Speaker 2>people will will I think the people will hire smart

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<v Speaker 2>enough to differentiate. They can understand why certain things might

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<v Speaker 2>be legal or not. I mean, we have you know,

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<v Speaker 2>liquor stores that only carry you know, liquor, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we have beer and wine a lot more widely customleed.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's there's clear delineations that we've already made in

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<v Speaker 2>adult products across the state. So I think the people

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<v Speaker 2>will hire are smart enough. And you know, one other

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<v Speaker 2>piece on the timeline of this and why that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that wind down period as we're referring to it as

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<v Speaker 2>is so important. You know, Beverage manufacturing is very capital intensive,

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<v Speaker 2>right you In order to keep your car in a

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<v Speaker 2>manageable way, you need to buy in large quantities and

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<v Speaker 2>manufacturer in larger quantities. So you're always going to have,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, usually at least a few months of inventory

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<v Speaker 2>in each piece of the process on him. So being

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<v Speaker 2>able to thinking someone be able to wind down that

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<v Speaker 2>aspect of their business and you know, just ninety days

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<v Speaker 2>is absurd, it's not feasible, it's not reasonable. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>why that sealth appeared was so critical for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so many folks in the state.

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<v Speaker 1>One of his concerns always has been, he said, do

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<v Speaker 1>Wain has always had something about marijuana. He just absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>hates it and doesn't like anyone should use it. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course, you know, the people spoke up and he

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<v Speaker 1>goes along with it, which you know, okay, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>your personal interest, but again, you don't represent the voters

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<v Speaker 1>and the constituents of Ohio. But it's another way for

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<v Speaker 1>him to work around I think, and go after something

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people enjoy. And you know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the cries, of course, is a drink and driving. And

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<v Speaker 1>now you add substance in driving, driving buzzed if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at the numbers from the Ohia State Highway

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<v Speaker 1>Patrol and we're actually down a little bit here. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is mainly alcohol abusers, right, people who drink alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>and drive. But the biggest problem they have when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to drinking and driving OVI is recidivous or repeat offenders.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost a third of ov I arrests in the last

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<v Speaker 1>six years involve offenders, and that goes up to about

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<v Speaker 1>forty percent when you include all the state law enforcement data.

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<v Speaker 1>So clearly the big problem are people who simply don't

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<v Speaker 1>care that they're endangering the lives of others. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care if it's beer, wine, hard spirits or THHD beverages.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have people that don't care what the law is,

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<v Speaker 1>that's on the state to start locking those people up,

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<v Speaker 1>versus going after people who are simply enjoying responsibly some

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<v Speaker 1>beverages like THHG and fused beers or craft beers like

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<v Speaker 1>you offer it Urban Artifact.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And honestly, you know it kind of incentivizes

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<v Speaker 2>people to leave the state for these products. If you know,

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<v Speaker 2>our lawsuit isn't successful. Right, if you're in the greater

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati area, you can go over to Lawrenceburg, you go

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<v Speaker 2>over to northern Kentucky. If you're in southeast Ohio, you

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<v Speaker 2>can go over to West Virginia. You know, you know

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<v Speaker 2>you're landlocked in Columbus. I feel for you there, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's still access and now you're kind of telling people, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>please leave the state, take your money out of the state,

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<v Speaker 2>right in order to purchase these products that you want,

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<v Speaker 2>because like you're not. People aren't suddenly going to decide

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, the governor said, it's back for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to pursue this right, right, and if an

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<v Speaker 2>individual says I like this, I want access to this,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to find a way to obtain it.

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<v Speaker 1>The governor's office said, no, Ohio voter ever approved THHD

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<v Speaker 1>drinks being sold at breweries. I would look at that one, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of argument is that. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>we ever approved a lot of the things that we

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<v Speaker 1>do or that are part of the law. Generally, someone

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<v Speaker 1>develops a product, did you regulate it. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>voters said we want THH infused beverages. No one's ever

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<v Speaker 1>We've never voted on something we've essentially whant it's something

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<v Speaker 1>that's already established and we say thumbs up or thumbs down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the dumbest statement I've ever read.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean the voters didn't know that that

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<v Speaker 2>was a thing, quite honestly at that point in time

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<v Speaker 2>when that was going on, and if they did, they

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely would have said they would wanted access to that

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<v Speaker 2>right like this, you know, we're talking about an industry

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<v Speaker 2>in a category that is still in its infancy phase. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>we've only been in it for about two years, but

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<v Speaker 2>in earnest it's only been around for maybe four or

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<v Speaker 2>five years in a little more widespread manner, and that

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<v Speaker 2>it's still you know, we're talking if there's twenty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>alcohol retail licenses in Ohio, I think maybe five six hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred we're carrying these beverages this time. That's such

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<v Speaker 2>a small percentage. Like a lot of people still don't

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<v Speaker 2>even necessarily realize that these products exist, and once they do,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's something that they really enjoy it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot a lot of the a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>folk and alcohol seat as a threat, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's you're in business as a supplier manufacturer to give

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<v Speaker 2>the consumers what they want.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. Yeah, exactly. And people like it, They enjoyed,

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<v Speaker 1>drink it responsibly, They feel better after they consume it

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to alcohol. But some people still, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol is still king. But this offers people, especially those

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<v Speaker 1>who are of drinking age or newly turning to drinking age.

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<v Speaker 1>Is they like THC infused products they really really enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>and that is the new and growing trent for Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>to be this this island of stupidity, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>not to lean into this thing. Every surrounding state can

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<v Speaker 1>sell these products, and so as you mentioned earlier, outside

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<v Speaker 1>of Columbus, that kind of kills us here in Cincinnati. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the other Ohio well, there are four Ohio breweries that

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<v Speaker 1>are suing. Two in Cincinnati over to fifty Wes. Bobby Slattery,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a friend of the show, said, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great question. Who are we helping by doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever gotten an answer to that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, and I don't. I don't think that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>those comments will ever be addressed directly, Right, That's one

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<v Speaker 2>of those that'll get brushed to the side because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think there's a good answers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is something that's driven by the lawmakers or

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<v Speaker 1>particularly Mike Delinic. No one is saying, you know, established

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<v Speaker 1>good petition to trying to stop people from SELLINGDHC beverages.

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<v Speaker 1>This just like came off the top of his head.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, it's very questionable. The justification for it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>I really wish the Portraite governor would Yeah, he would

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<v Speaker 2>speak to it and just give us a direct answer

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<v Speaker 2>as to why right, because nothing is adding up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the time is short. Of course your less than

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks here? Are you optimistic at least get in

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<v Speaker 1>an injunction here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm optimistic. Again. I think the Ohio Constitution is is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, pretty well defined, and you know what the

0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:06.920
<v Speaker 2>governor did was lawless over each and he just doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't have the authority to do it. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>the way that people have structured it. Uh. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a reason too why you don't see

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<v Speaker 2>these line on and beatos come up very often because

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<v Speaker 2>most governors will look at what the constitution says and say, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here's where I can apply this, and it generally comes

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<v Speaker 2>in the form of the budget bill gets passed every

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<v Speaker 2>one of two years. I don't remember in Junie, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's where it gets used, because's where it's appropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, one hundred percent out of time, but appreciate yours

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<v Speaker 1>as always. Scottie Hunter over at urban Artifacts, he see

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<v Speaker 1>a cone owner and and CEO suing the state of

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<v Speaker 1>all hiover this thch drink band. Hopefully they press the

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<v Speaker 1>time out button here and uh, maybe more thoughtful and

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<v Speaker 1>cooler heads will debate this thing and we'll continue on,

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<v Speaker 1>continue on. All the best, man, good luck with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate you checking.

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<v Speaker 2>In, Thanks that for having me. Have a great day.

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