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Speaker 1: health text line. I'm very excited to be here with you, Dave,

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Speaker 1: looking very dapper, however, right, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: See, nice nice jacket. I eat some better jackets.

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Speaker 1: You always show up and it's a reminder to me

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Speaker 1: of what adulting really looks like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a closet full of flannel with flannel.

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Speaker 2: What's wrong with flannel?

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Speaker 3: Well, there's nothing wrong with flannel.

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Speaker 2: You look good. I have, we have our season indeed,

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Speaker 2: banquet tonight. So of course it was gonna you.

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Speaker 3: Know, in flannel. Probably wouldn't be appropriate under.

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Speaker 2: There, you know, maybe not maybe not.

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Speaker 1: If I showed up in flannel, people be like, oh

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Speaker 1: well there's there's Ryan, absolutely and they recognize me, right, No.

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Speaker 3: I I it was recently.

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Speaker 1: There was some kind of event or something that I

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Speaker 2: Maybe the presidential inauguration. I think that's what it was.

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Speaker 2: What it was, Yeah, what did you decide to wear

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Speaker 2: for that flannel? Appropriately?

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Speaker 3: You gotta be me, right, it's got to be me.

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Speaker 2: So I'm saying that.

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Speaker 1: I think there is I think it's right. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll come back to uh our Sammy Davis Junior breakdown,

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Speaker 1: But right now we're gonna head out to the Kawa

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Speaker 1: Common Spirit Health Highline.

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Speaker 3: And bring on Broncos safety.

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Speaker 1: Jail Skinner, Jail, you're wrong with Dave, Logan and Ryan

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Speaker 1: and we're thank you so much for the time this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing good man, Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 4: I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Jail, appreciate, appreciate your time. I want to take

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Speaker 2: and and you were a great player in college obviously

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Speaker 2: What was that like for you?

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Speaker 5: Oh? I say it was more like more so like

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Speaker 5: In college, especially my senior year, I didn't really play

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Speaker 5: as much as special teams, So, you know, coming to

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Speaker 5: those teams play can really change the game and the league,

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Speaker 5: you know, go from a fifty percent chance or an

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Speaker 5: it was a big adjustment, I say, but I really

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 1: Well speak speaking of a big special teams play this

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Speaker 4: Get them some more. Man, we don't want one, we

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Speaker 2: You know, when you look at you look at the

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Speaker 2: But I don't I don't know that necessarily Broncos fans

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Speaker 1: With those guys if on their offense, they just got

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Speaker 1: Hey we got we gotta shut down this one guy.

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Speaker 1: What's what's it like preparing for a team like that

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Speaker 1: Last couple here for you, I appreciate the time Jail

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Speaker 3: Is that the greatest animated some of all time?

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Speaker 3: Which was the best one?

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Speaker 4: He just turned out to be the villain. So I

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Speaker 4: That's one of my favorite ones I watched that was you.

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Speaker 4: I might watch that one tonight, actually, be honest, I

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Speaker 3: That's great, that's great. One more year.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to sort of ask you about this

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Speaker 3: You've been here now for a few years.

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Speaker 1: What is it about this locker room in your opinion,

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Speaker 5: I say, honestly, you know, this locker room is probably

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Speaker 4: Trying to figure out ways to be better and.

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Speaker 5: And I know a lot now the best of my

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Speaker 4: So that's just right there, shows how I say, close to.

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Speaker 5: A tight group we are. And you know, these guys

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Speaker 5: That's why everybody else team loves each other. You know,

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Speaker 5: there's no separation in this team. Everyone talks to everyone,

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Speaker 5: But the dvs going around with the old line every.

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Speaker 3: That's outstanding.

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Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, saw the video up for the

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Speaker 3: That was really cool.

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Speaker 3: How time was that?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Man? You know I went to the Boys and Girls

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Speaker 4: Club a lot growing up. That was one of my

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Speaker 4: how to go to work and stuff. So I say, buddy,

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Speaker 4: golgo hold a special place in my heart for sure.

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Speaker 5: And is seeing those kids smile and be so grateful

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Speaker 4: They got manage. It brought me back to my days

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Speaker 3: Outstanding Jail, Thank you so much for the time this afternoon. Appreciated.

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Speaker 3: Best of luck on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Now I appreciate you guys, Thank

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you, jail.

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Speaker 3: Ye, great stuff. Yeah, that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: I thought you're gonna ask another question about kind of

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Speaker 2: flu Pandem, which was your favorite?

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Speaker 3: The first one?

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Speaker 2: What'd you like about it?

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Speaker 1: origin story, like I like comic books, right, so you

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Speaker 1: I know you don't really care, but I just no, no.

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Speaker 2: No, I I'm fascinated with this.

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Speaker 3: Please, I am.

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Speaker 2: I'm seriously, but.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the way the Broncos offense has been operating.

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Speaker 3: That just got healthier.

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Speaker 1: are you playing, and he's like, I'm day to day,

445
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Speaker 1: so I don't know. Maybe there's some games from a

446
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Speaker 1: ship there, but he's not practicing. We'll see what practice

447
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Speaker 1: report looks like tomorrow. But I feel like that's where

448
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Speaker 1: I'm most concerned. If there's any concern for this game,

449
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Speaker 1: and there certainly is there a good team, The biggest

450
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Speaker 1: one is the Broncos defense versus that Packers offense, because

451
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Speaker 1: there's so many multiple ways in which they can go

452
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Speaker 1: at you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't disagree with the last part of that.

454
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Speaker 2: I mean, they've got a lot of really good receivers.

455
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Speaker 2: If Jacobs plays, and he's able to play, and he's

456
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Speaker 2: close to one hundred percent, he's a monster. I mean,

457
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Speaker 2: he to me, would be one of the top five

458
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Speaker 2: or six running backs in the league, just because he

459
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Speaker 2: runs with such violence and he's you know, he's got

460
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Speaker 2: what I call pham Booth quickness for a big man.

461
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Speaker 2: So he'll he'll he'll not give you a great shot

462
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Speaker 2: at him, and sometimes you know he'll run right over

463
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Speaker 2: the top of you. But I think this, I think

464
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Speaker 2: the Broncos defense matches up well with Green Bay. I

465
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Speaker 2: I have seen Jordan Love really good, and I've seen

466
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Speaker 2: Jordan Love where I would say he looks rather pedestrian,

467
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Speaker 2: And I've seen this defense make really good quarterbacks look

468
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Speaker 2: not really good. So I think the Packers deal will

469
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Speaker 2: be much the same as the Broncos. From an offensive standpoint,

470
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Speaker 2: you want to not get behind the chains against Denver,

471
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Speaker 2: so you want to run and have control it I

472
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Speaker 2: call control passes where you're you're moving the ball, You're

473
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Speaker 2: you're getting the ball out of his hands, you're frustrating

474
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Speaker 2: the Denver pass rush. And then if you if you

475
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Speaker 2: get in third downs, you want it to be third

476
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Speaker 2: down and four, third down and three where you're you

477
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Speaker 2: know you can get the ball out of your hands

478
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Speaker 2: and you can you can formation teams much more easy

479
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Speaker 2: then you can when it's third down and eight plus.

480
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Speaker 2: So I think this is going to be a hell

481
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Speaker 2: of a game. I think it's a great matchup. I

482
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Speaker 2: think the Broncos are absolutely capable of one of this game,

483
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Speaker 2: and even though they've won ten games in a row.

484
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Speaker 2: I think that's that's the way I would lean.

485
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Speaker 3: That's where I'm at too. All right, we'll come back.

486
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Speaker 1: I got some really fun stats to get into as

487
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Speaker 1: it relates to this matchup.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that next. Awesome interview at JL won

489
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Speaker 3: an awesome down to Earth guy.

490
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Speaker 2: Love it, no doubt. Yeah, he's player too.

491
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Speaker 3: Oh he's a really good player.

492
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Speaker 1: But I love the point that you sort of asked

493
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Speaker 1: him at the beginning about being a core special teams player,

494
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Speaker 1: because oftentimes you come into the league, I mean, you're

495
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Speaker 1: one of the best players really at high school level,

496
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Speaker 1: at the college level.

497
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Speaker 3: To make it in the NFL, you have to be

498
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Speaker 3: the elite of the elite.

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Speaker 1: But then you have this picture in your mind of well,

500
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Speaker 1: that means I'm going to be a starting whatever position

501
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Speaker 1: you are, right, and then you get in the league

502
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Speaker 1: and they say, actually, we really need you to be

503
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Speaker 1: a core special teamer.

504
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and here's how you're going to make the team

505
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Speaker 2: if you want to get paid this year. Right. But

506
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Speaker 2: but it's something that most players that are not quarterbacks

507
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Speaker 2: have to have to deal with. I mean, at the

508
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Speaker 2: University of Colorado, I'd never I mean I returned punts

509
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Speaker 2: and punted. I was never on kickoff return, kickoff coverage,

510
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Speaker 2: punt return. I guess I was on punk coverage because

511
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Speaker 2: I was the punter. But then my rookie year with

512
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Speaker 2: the with the Browns, I mean I was the gunner

513
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Speaker 2: on the punk coverage team and it was on every

514
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Speaker 2: I was a core special teams guy at that point.

515
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Speaker 2: I don't think I'd ever played special teams. But you

516
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Speaker 2: learn to adjust, you learn that it's a big, big

517
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Speaker 2: part of the game. And again, as I said, I

518
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Speaker 2: was being smart, But hey, if you want to stay

519
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Speaker 2: on the team, if you want to stay in the league,

520
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Speaker 2: and let you know, let things kind of work out

521
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Speaker 2: until you can figure out the speed and size of

522
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Speaker 2: the game, then and this is your best way to

523
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Speaker 2: do it.

524
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Speaker 1: And he's obviously taken a big role in that and

525
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Speaker 1: taking a lot of accountability in and he's been really good.

526
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Speaker 1: He's obviously Gray as a gunner and Gray as a

527
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Speaker 1: blocker when they need him to be. And like I said,

528
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Speaker 1: there may be an opportunity down the road where he

529
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Speaker 1: gets a chance to play a little more full time dB.

530
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Speaker 3: But in the meantime, you get where you fit in

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Speaker 3: to a certain extent.

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Speaker 1: Right, yep, all right, we'll get back to the text

533
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Speaker 1: line here five six six nine zero in just a

534
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Speaker 1: second again. Jim mora college state head coaching, going to

535
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Speaker 1: join us here in a little bit. You mentioned third downs.

536
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Speaker 1: Nick k Cosmeier had a couple of really cool stats

537
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Speaker 1: here in the Athletic today as he was writing about

538
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Speaker 1: sort of the efficiency of the offense and the third down.

539
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Speaker 1: One jumped out right away because the Broncos their average

540
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Speaker 1: distance to gain third down this year has been seven

541
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Speaker 1: and a half yards. And you remember, I was a

542
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Speaker 1: few weeks ago, maybe a month or two ago, when

543
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Speaker 1: you were talking about some of the third down conversion

544
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Speaker 1: rates and just how abysmal they've been.

545
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Speaker 3: But they've also been really good of the last three.

546
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Speaker 1: Right, they are fifty percent three weeks they are fifty

547
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Speaker 1: percent conversion rate And a big reason why is there

548
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Speaker 1: now averaging six point four They've they've knocked over a

549
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Speaker 1: yard off of their down and distance to go on

550
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Speaker 1: third down. It's been a significant part of what they're

551
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Speaker 1: doing right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which means they're they've been better on first and

553
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Speaker 2: second down. Right. The stat I gave you, I think

554
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Speaker 2: was I don't know, three weeks ago, maybe maybe a

555
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Speaker 2: month ago, and it's not it's not just the Broncos,

556
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Speaker 2: but I had I had a stat that was from

557
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Speaker 2: the Broncos the league in general. When you get into

558
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Speaker 2: third down and eight plus, third down to ten plus,

559
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Speaker 2: your chances of picking that up in the NFL not

560
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Speaker 2: very good. It happens. I mean, the Broncos had two

561
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Speaker 2: one third and eleven, one third and fifteen against the

562
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Speaker 2: Chiefs when they beat him here in Denver. The third

563
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Speaker 2: and eleven was on the first drive and that was

564
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Speaker 2: de Troy Franklin completion. Third and fifteen was on what

565
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Speaker 2: turned out to be the game winning drive, and that

566
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Speaker 2: was a Courtland sudden completion of twenty yards. But prior

567
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Speaker 2: to that game, the Broncos on third down and eight

568
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Speaker 2: plus had been eight of fifty, which is sixteen percent.

569
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Speaker 2: So again it just speaks to the importance of staying

570
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Speaker 2: ahead of the chains and not getting in third down

571
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Speaker 2: and long situations. You know, you get a holding call

572
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: in first down and that's first and twenty just a killer.

573
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Speaker 2: I mean, just absolutely a killer. So pennalies play a big,

574
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Speaker 2: big part in that. And I think execution on first

575
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Speaker 2: and second down. And we've seen the Broncos I think improve,

576
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Speaker 2: as you just said, the last three weeks, they.

577
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Speaker 1: Went from twenty fifth to sixteenth. I mean, that's how

578
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Speaker 1: significant that difference is. There was something else, and this

579
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Speaker 1: is why I was talking about why I feel as

580
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Speaker 1: though the Broncos offense is performing and sort of maybe

581
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Speaker 1: figured out a way to take down some of these

582
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Speaker 1: elite pass rushes because you're getting the ball out so fast.

583
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Speaker 1: But there was a time earlier in the season where

584
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Speaker 1: they were attempting a lot more of the deep, explosive

585
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Speaker 1: place right. They were trying to push the ball down

586
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Speaker 1: the field. But yeah, they had a couple of those

587
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Speaker 1: longer completions. They had a couple against the Washington Commanders,

588
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: and of course the kids say chiefs, but they've really

589
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Speaker 1: dialed back on it. Have you noticed that over the last.

590
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Speaker 3: Few weeks they've kind of been a little bit working

591
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Speaker 3: with Hey, if you're gonna give us this.

592
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Speaker 1: If you're gonna give us five six yards, we're gonna

593
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Speaker 1: take five or six yards from you, like right away. Well,

594
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Speaker 1: So the first part of the season, Bonix had attempted

595
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Speaker 1: forty eight deep ball passes, which is only trailing Matthew

596
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Speaker 1: Stafford at forty nine through the first eleven weeks of

597
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Speaker 1: the season.

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Speaker 3: So he was I mean, he was throwing it deep.

599
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Speaker 1: Often, right, but the offense sometimes felt a little uneven.

600
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Speaker 1: Over the last few weeks, three games, specifically, he's attempted

601
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Speaker 1: half of that. In fact, more than he's only attempted

602
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Speaker 1: ten of twenty or more air yards. So I'm sorry,

603
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Speaker 1: So forty eight through the first eleven weeks, the last

604
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Speaker 1: three weeks he's only attempted ten deep passes.

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Speaker 2: So it's just like won a game though, right, That's right.

606
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Speaker 2: I mean, so I don't know. I I'm not sure

607
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 2: I would read a hell of a lot into that.

608
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: I hadn't thought about it, to tell you the truth.

609
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: But if you said forty eight over eleven, yeah, and

610
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: the little more than four down to three, yeah, I

611
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: mean a lot of times I think coverage dictates what

612
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: you do with the ball. I'm not saying maybe they

613
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Speaker 2: haven't talked about it, and maybe they've. Maybe Sean and

614
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: the offensive guys have talked to Bowl about hey, if

615
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: you if you get something here, you know, take it.

616
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: Let's let's eat a little bit here and not wait

617
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: for the for the big meal all the time. Possibly,

618
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Speaker 2: but I just think I think after the the first

619
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Speaker 2: Raiders game, I think since that time, Bow looks much

620
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Speaker 2: more settled down. You remember after the Raiders game, it

621
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Speaker 2: was like wow, I mean his feet were everywhere, you know,

622
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Speaker 2: his ball placement was not good. They had ten days

623
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Speaker 2: to get ready for the Chiefs, and he looked like

624
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Speaker 2: a completely different guy. Now. Sean later after that first

625
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 2: Raiders game said bad game plan. So to me from him,

626
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: that was sort of his way of managing people like

627
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Speaker 2: us in the media and saying, hey, it really really

628
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: wasn't Bo, it was me and the game plan. People.

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Speaker 1: Those forty eight deep ball attempts, he completed just twenty

630
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Speaker 1: nine percent of them. He's completed fifty percent of last

631
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Speaker 1: three weeks he's been he's been really good. So it's

632
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Speaker 1: not only fewer, but they're they've been more effective.

633
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Speaker 2: I mean, the Packers are an excellent team, you know,

634
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Speaker 2: with a shockmate the Packers come in here and find

635
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: a way to win a hard fog game. No, because

636
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure the Packers aren't going to come

637
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: out of the NFC. But I will tell you this.

638
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: Anybody that thinks, well, Broncos won ten in a row

639
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: and gosh it's been ugly at times, and they don't.

640
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: And if there's people there that do not give the

641
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: Broncos any chance to win at home, I think you

642
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: are sadly underestimate this football team, and especially when they

643
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: play in front of seventy whatever seven thousand fans.

644
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: I get the sense.

645
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: And I had a chance to shout Ray green Law

646
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: for the pregame in the locker room today.

647
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: And did you scary you? Because the last time you

648
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: saw him you said he scared you? Do I say that, yeah,

649
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: a little bit.

650
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 3: He could be intense.

651
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: No, No, we were, We were good. Although did you

652
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: start with him, mister Greenlaw. I'm just asking for a friend,

653
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: just as a friend.

654
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Speaker 1: If somebody was like a bystander, like does his voice

655
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: book like three octaves?

656
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Speaker 2: I love mister Greenlaw.

657
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Speaker 3: No, but I will. I will make fun of myself

658
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Speaker 3: for one thing, and then this is just.

659
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Speaker 2: And you have big arms. No, is that what you were?

660
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: Is that what you're gonna say?

661
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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I feel like you've video before. No, so

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Speaker 1: I god, I shouldn't even say this.

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Speaker 2: Oh go ahead, go ahead, No, nobody's listening. We're good, okay.

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Speaker 1: So at the end of the interview, you know, you're

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Speaker 1: saying thank you, hey, for the time, whatever, and he

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Speaker 1: went to go knuckles and I went and put.

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Speaker 3: My hand doubt.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, I know.

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Speaker 1: And then there's that awkward moment where we're staring at

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Speaker 1: each other and I have my hand out to shake

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Speaker 1: his hand.

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Speaker 3: He has his knuckles.

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Speaker 2: You know what he's thinking middle aged white d.

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Speaker 3: Did he switched to the hand? I put my knuckles out.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 3: Well not really. I just put my head on my back.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm sorry, that's all on me.

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Speaker 1: And then and then and then I shook his hand

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Speaker 1: and I so we did get the handshake in, but god, I.

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Speaker 3: Was so embarrassed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's you know what I'd love to say, Hey,

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Speaker 2: don't worry about it, but in this case, I think

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Speaker 2: you should.

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Speaker 3: Be You see me turning red.

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Speaker 1: I was so like, I was mortified, gosh, because it's

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Speaker 1: actually the first time I've I've ever interviewed him like

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Speaker 1: in person, like like.

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Speaker 2: I thought you, I thought you had interaction with him,

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Speaker 2: and maybe he didn't say anything. He just glared at

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Speaker 2: you about something that Susan.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper did that with me this last week. Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Cooper was not a fan of my question.

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Speaker 2: Coop. Yeah, Coop, can I just say something? Yeah, as

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Speaker 2: a friends, as a co host, sir, as your partner

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Speaker 2: on the air, you need to stay away from Coop.

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Speaker 3: Oh do you hear do you hear some things? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to you needs, as they like to say,

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Speaker 2: you need just to give him a little room.

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Speaker 1: Well, he more or less told me that, and I

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Speaker 1: thought I was I thought it was actually a fine question.

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Speaker 3: I asked him, Well.

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Speaker 2: For those that didn't hear it, go ahead and repeat

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Speaker 2: it and let them be the judge of it.

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Speaker 3: Well, so.

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Speaker 2: I know what the question is, so don't change it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I won't. I won't.

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Speaker 3: I won't.

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Speaker 1: So I asked him, and I even played it in

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Speaker 1: the pregame, so I was like, Hey, I'm just going

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Speaker 1: to play it so that people know. I asked him,

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Speaker 1: I saying, you just played this team a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: How much can really change with a team when you've

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Speaker 1: played in such a short span it, you know, just

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Speaker 1: as a time. And he started to okay, well, and

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Speaker 1: he's like, you know, I'm not going to give you

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Speaker 1: a SoundBite.

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Speaker 3: I know what you're trying to do here, and I

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Speaker 3: was like, no, I'm not. I'm not trying to do anything.

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Speaker 1: I'm just asking you an honest question, like how much

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Speaker 1: can a team really change within a few weeks because

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Speaker 1: it has been like quite literally a month of time.

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Speaker 2: And tell the truth. Tell the truth what you were after.

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Speaker 2: Tell the truth.

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Speaker 3: I was after the truth.

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Speaker 2: You were actually asking him, like and the only the

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Speaker 2: only sound effect that you left out was you basically going,

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Speaker 2: here's here's what really the question meant. I mean you

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Speaker 2: played these guys earlier, so I mean and and they

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Speaker 2: they sucked, then I mean, how much how much better

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Speaker 2: can they be? That's really what the question was.

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Speaker 4: The sext.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Well, now I see why he got so upset.

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Speaker 2: Of course, of course I didn't mean it to sound

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Speaker 2: like it's okay, I know you, Yes you did.

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Speaker 1: Then and then the follow up to that, and then

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Speaker 1: then he was like, hey man, you gotta move the

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Speaker 1: microphone back from my face a little bit. So I

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Speaker 1: was the follow up now I'm trying to excit ended

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Speaker 1: up deleting it because I didn't get anything, not a

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Speaker 1: substantive that I could use for the pregame.

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Speaker 3: So but he was, for.

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Speaker 1: Whatever reason, my line of questioning from the very get go.

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Speaker 1: It was like my interview with Charles Hayley the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl one year, where he tried he threatened to hurt me,

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Speaker 1: he threatened physical violence against me.

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Speaker 2: Well, Charles is a little different.

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Speaker 3: He's a little different, but he did not like me whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's two.

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Speaker 3: Another guy.

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Speaker 1: Think it's usually up on the screen, but this is

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Speaker 1: a this is a generic classic bumper rock.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's the famous generic classic bumper rock that's from

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Speaker 2: the seventies. All Right, I got it, got it, got it.

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Speaker 1: Jim Moore is gonna join us here just aboutter a

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Speaker 1: moment's pretty short segment here five six six nine zeros

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Speaker 1: or Kawae commasper health text. I did want to address

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Speaker 1: this one really quick. Here says hey, guys, love the show.

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Speaker 1: I wish you guys would go down memory lane and

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Steve Watson. Seeing his numbers

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Speaker 1: just got pasted. Yeah, Courtland Sutton passed him in yards

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Speaker 1: this last week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah on the game broadcast. Well, you know, in today's

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Speaker 2: time and moving forward, there probably won't be many records

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Speaker 2: that are held by guys that played back. She's first

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Speaker 2: year in the league I believe was seventy nine. But

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Speaker 2: for those people that missed him, I mean, Steve was

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Speaker 2: a great receiver in the league for a long time,

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Speaker 2: played his I believe, his entire career here, but dependable,

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Speaker 2: great hands, tough, faster than you would think he might

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Speaker 2: be when you just look at him, and I mean

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Speaker 2: really productive, really productive career here for a long time,

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Speaker 2: no no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: For Courtland Sutton, where's he at right now with the

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Speaker 1: receivers of history for Broncos. He's probably not up there

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Speaker 1: like yet with Rod and DT imagine.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean there have been some, I mean

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Speaker 2: there's been some good. There've been some great receivers over

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Speaker 2: the years. You mentioned a couple. I think Eddie mack

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Speaker 2: Yah is one of those. I think Steve Watson is

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Speaker 2: one of those. Lionel Taylor back in the sixties when

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Speaker 2: I was a kid, certainly one of those. But Courland

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Speaker 2: Cortland has really sort of worked his way up the chart,

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Speaker 2: and there's no reason to believe that. You know, he

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Speaker 2: doesn't have another handful of seasons, right, and if he

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Speaker 2: would just stay relatively injury free, he's a guy that's

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Speaker 2: gonna put pretty good numbers up, even in an offense

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Speaker 2: that likes to spread the ball around. So when it's

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Speaker 2: all said and done, I mean Courtland. Cortland got six

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Speaker 2: thousand yards receiving in Broncos history, the third fastest behind

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Speaker 2: only DT and Rod Smith. So he's been he's been

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Speaker 2: incredibly productive when he's been able to stay healthy and

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Speaker 2: on the field,