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Speaker 1: Well, rock guess in the studio res Royalty, how about this?

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Speaker 1: And obviously a big week at Red's Vest. It's back

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Speaker 1: a couple of great players in the studio with us.

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Speaker 1: Amelia Bagan, a great reliever, great closer, just signed a

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Speaker 1: new two year deal to be back with the club

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Speaker 1: this year and back for his third straight year on

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Speaker 1: The Eddie and Rocky Show. Andrew Abbott, a great pitcher,

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Speaker 1: went ten and seven to eighty seven ERA one hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty nine. K's fellas, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you having us.

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Speaker 3: Amelio, the gingers are overrunning.

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Speaker 1: It's here, son, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: This is.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know I need to dine my here before

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So let's talk Amelia first, you were talking you lived

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Speaker 3: down in Charlotte during the off season, Yes, originally from

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Speaker 3: South Carolina, South Carolina. And let me ask both of

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Speaker 3: you guys and Emelio you're first, you're getting charged up.

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Speaker 3: I mean you were about three and a half weeks

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Speaker 2: Oh you're ready to go. Oh yeah, no, the juice

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Speaker 2: kind of feels like, all right, I need to be

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to see everybody and get this thing going.

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Speaker 4: Drew, Yeah, absolutely, I mean this is the last kind

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Speaker 4: of big culmination redsfest. Once you kind of checked this off,

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Speaker 1: So Andrew, I asked you this. I mean, both you

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Speaker 4: I took about two weeks off of running, conditioning, lifting,

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Speaker 4: we're saying, So it just comes in waves kind of,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, we we get eliminated, get home.

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Speaker 1: Explain to the listeners what Hepplyo care ball is.

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Speaker 1: Right and just can't bench press and then go throw?

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Speaker 3: Andrew having to immediately you pegan or with us and guys,

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Speaker 3: you're talking about last year getting eliminated. Uh no, shame

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Speaker 3: in losing that Dodgers team the best money that the

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Speaker 4: It was amazing, you know, the clinching moment was special

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Speaker 4: Just the group of guys that are going to be there.

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Speaker 2: I remember the stuff that we talked about without that

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Speaker 1: There, And you also got to be in the moment.

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Speaker 1: Awesome. Andrew, let me ask you this one. Do you

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean watch the hands, you know, you watch

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Speaker 4: I think that you know not. You can't communicate with

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Speaker 4: it's a chess match, and that's what's fun about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So you guys, I think that's one of the things

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Speaker 3: and stuff. But how much does Tito Francona mean to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's awesome too. You know, anytime

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Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, I mean he's Baseball Royalty. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he's one World Series, he's got a lot of he's

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Speaker 4: learn the game and all that. And what a Mila

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Speaker 4: It's the traditional you know, hard nos coach that wants

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Speaker 1: So reds Vest does kicks off tomorrow and Saturday. Will

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Speaker 1: you guys would both be there?

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Speaker 4: Yep?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, both days, both days both?

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Speaker 1: Wow, all right, we'll be there.

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Speaker 2: See everybody.

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Speaker 3: Love it all right, guys, thanks for coming in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: You guys have a great series, Andrew, but immediately you'll

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Speaker 3: put gone with us. With that, we had to tray

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