1 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: This is coming to us, so. 2 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Safe Money Strategies on WRKO. 3 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: I'm William Kelly and it's an honor to carry on 4 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: a family legacy rooted in real world values. 5 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: And practical advice. 6 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: Kelly Financial was founded in two thousand and three by 7 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 2: my parents, my late father Bill Kelly and my mother 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: Kelly Kelly and Braintree and Burlington, Massachusetts. Just two years later, 9 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: Dad launched Safe Money Strategies on WRKO as a no 10 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: nonsense call in radio show focused on common sense planning 11 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 2: and protecting wealth. Over the past two decades, Dad became 12 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: a pillar in New England finance, an engineer, turn entrepreneur, 13 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: author and philanthropist who believed in giving back and walking 14 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: the talk. Since our show has remained a Saturday morning staple, 15 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: offering insight and empowerment. Here at Kelly Financial, we help 16 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: steward over eight hundred million dollars across our affiliated business, 17 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: including more than six hundred million dollars managed by our 18 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: sec registered investment advisory, where fiduciary care and our family 19 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: first philosophy guides us on safe money strategies. You'll hear 20 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: candid conversations with the team, my mother Kelly, myself, advisors 21 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: Charlie Gable, Mike Ducett, Greg Workman, Greg Murray, my sister 22 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: Mary Madeline, and Tom Schlager. We live by two rules, 23 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: never quit and carry on, and we're here to help 24 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: you do the same when it comes to your money. 25 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: Stick around, take notes and join the conversation. To learn 26 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: more or get our free guides or schedule a consultation, 27 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: visit Kelly Financial dot org or call us at eighty 28 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: eight eight eight hundred one eight eight one. 29 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: This is Safe Money Strategies. 30 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: Next up Forever Young with Kelly Kelly and myself, William 31 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: Kelly Junior. 32 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: Safe Money Strategies with William Kelly and Kelly Kelly eight 33 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: eight hundred eighteen eighty one. 34 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 4: Each week on Safe Money Strategies, we take a moment 35 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 4: to step back from the headlines and have a real conversation, 36 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 4: the kind you might have around the kitchen table. This 37 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 4: is a part of the show we call Forever Young 38 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 4: is where I sit down with my handsome son, William 39 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 4: Kelly Junior, and we talk about life, what's going on 40 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: in the world, and our family and what really matters 41 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: most when you're planning for the future. Sometimes is light, 42 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 4: sometimes is thoughtful, but is always real. 43 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 5: Good morning, William. How are you. 44 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm good, Mom. How are you. 45 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 6: I'm doing great. 46 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: It's great to hear. There have been plenty of midterms 47 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: this week. Yeah, school, Yes, so I just had an 48 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 2: econ midterm, as many of you know, had some essays 49 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: I had to submit to had a business class midterm, 50 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: and I have to say that was very light, and 51 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: I think everybody did really well in it. 52 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 6: Good. 53 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: I do very few people who struggled from that exam, 54 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: So I love those kinds of exams. 55 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: The ones that are a little easier, so lightens the 56 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: loan a little bit. True. I'll have to see what's 57 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: coming up next. 58 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure i'll have one for political science, and probably 59 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: I do have one for history coming up, and so 60 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 2: I'll be ready and prepared for those. 61 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: So I'm excited. Yeah. 62 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 3: Good. 63 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: Tell me about what's going on in your life. 64 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 4: Well, I've been working hard. I have been babysitting. You've 65 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 4: been Mallie, yeahbysitting Mellie. 66 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: Yes. 67 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 4: Mary Madlin's a little dog, little puppy, and she's been 68 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: a good girl. 69 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 5: I have been working out with missus. 70 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: Oh. 71 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 5: Good, and that has been going. 72 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 6: Well, you've been. 73 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: Complaining all week. I don't think I've heard a single 74 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: nice thing. Well, are you only nice things about her? 75 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: About I don't think i've heard a single good thing. 76 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 6: Well, I haven't seen you. 77 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 5: I haven't seen you since last. 78 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 4: Weekend, so so it's improved since then. They're definitely ups 79 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 4: and downs with this, you know. I feel like I, I, 80 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 4: you know, have it going on and then. 81 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: All of a sudden you feel a little bit defeated. 82 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and then you pick yourself up and just 83 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 4: keep going. 84 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: That's right, you know. 85 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 4: But it is quite a challenge getting enough protein really, 86 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: watching the macros, you know, really just. 87 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: More challenging the food or the exercise both. Really, egally, 88 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: that's incredible. So working hard in the gym is just 89 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: as challenging as eating. 90 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: Getting I don't know, well, I felt like the eating 91 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 4: part was going. 92 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: Well, I don't. 93 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: Blame you, because eating is very hard for me when 94 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: I because I have to eat a lot of protein, 95 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: so I understand that. 96 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,559 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I was tracking everything, and finally she said, 97 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 4: you need to write this down, and I don't like 98 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 4: to write. 99 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 6: I'd rather just add it into my phone, you know. 100 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 4: It's easier, so so I stopped. She said, I think 101 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: you're missing a few things. So yes, and I think 102 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 4: I wasn't really tracking the half and half of my 103 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 4: coffee that well, I was a little more than I thought, 104 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: so I was weighing. I started weighing everything out, measuring it, 105 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 4: you know, even the avocado mayo, you know, anything, And 106 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 4: so I guess sometimes the little things add. 107 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 6: Up, right. 108 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 4: But she had noticed that I wasn't getting quite enough protein, protein, 109 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 4: and you know, not quite enough fat. And I felt 110 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 4: like maybe I'm getting too many carbs, and she's like, no, no, 111 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 4: So so I'm sticking with it. But that machine that 112 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: we get on is crazy. Tell our listeners what it is. 113 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: It is good for accurate tracing of a trend over time. 114 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,119 Speaker 2: So if you're trying to see if your muscle mass 115 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: goes up or down, I will say it's accurate within reason. 116 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 2: The only time it will be inaccurate is if you're 117 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: standing on it and you have to put your hands 118 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: on these two poles, I guess, and you have to 119 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: lift up your arms so that nothing is touching the 120 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: side of your body, so it's almost like you're doing 121 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: a t pose and you stand on the scale and 122 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 2: there's a screen in front of you that's attaching these 123 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: two poles and basically it sends an electric current throughout 124 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: your body, and the machine is able to detect different 125 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: types of mass, your lean body mass, your muscle mass, 126 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: your skeletal mass, how much fat you have, your hydration level, 127 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: and obviously you're a weight because there's a scale right 128 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: below you, and it basically will sends an electric current 129 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: and how the electric current returns to the other side 130 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: of the circuit. It can determine these things based on 131 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: off of that how it's changed. 132 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: It's not that accurate. 133 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: Actually, people have used in body scans and they did 134 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: a test to see how accurate embody is in compared 135 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: to decks. 136 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: Dex is a literal X. 137 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: Right, you sit on a table and it's sort of 138 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: like an MRI machine, but not really lay down and 139 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: you're perfectly straight, your arms are on your side, and 140 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: the scanner X rays your body from top to bottom 141 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: for about two minutes. It goes down really slowly. Deck 142 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: scans are extremely accurate. They're the most accurate, and so 143 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: that is way better. And they found that the embody 144 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: will tell people you have eighteen percent body fat and 145 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: then they do the deck scan and they find out 146 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: it's twenty four percent. 147 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: There's a lot of margin for air. 148 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's super accurate, the embody gets it just right 149 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: or really close, and sometimes not at all. The best 150 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: thing you can do is go to a deck scan 151 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: and they're really humbling, though you might get the real data. 152 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: And you know, not be too happy with it. One. 153 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 6: I've had one, Okay, that's what I thought. 154 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: I had it a while ago. It was worth it. 155 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: It definitely gave me a good baseline. It gave me 156 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: a lot of great information. It told me a lot 157 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: about my body, and you know what I need to 158 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: look out for, not just to dump on embodies at all. 159 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: They're good machines, but they're not perfectly accurate, and they're 160 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: really used as like a guide maybe. 161 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: Yes, and to determine trends. 162 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: So if you are gaining muscle mass, the embody, we'll 163 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: read that. 164 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 4: Okay, it is accurate on your weight absolutely, Okay, absolutely, 165 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 4: because she told me stop weighing at home. 166 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, as I would. Our skills kill, Our skill is awful. 167 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: Our skill. 168 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: When I was a wrestler, I would think that I 169 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: was three pounds overweight. I go to school, I'd be 170 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: two pounds underweight. That is the worst scale ever made. 171 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: I don't know where we bought it. I don't know 172 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: who calibrated it. I have no idea. I bought a 173 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: shipping scale because it's like perfectly calibrated. 174 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah off Amazon. 175 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 6: Yeah. 176 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: And so whenever I need to weigh myself and when 177 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm here, I just use that. 178 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: I don't even where is it. It's under the table 179 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: with the painting in the dining room. It's under that. 180 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: Oh that like stand with all of the photos when 181 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: you were a cheerleader my baseball, you and your family, 182 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: you know, Mimi, Poppy, Uncle Chip looks super happy in 183 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: that photo and you. 184 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: I think Dad when he was eleven, I think he's 185 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: on there. 186 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: I remember that photo pictures. That's a great photo. I 187 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 2: feel like Dad and I we looked kind of related. 188 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: We were both kids, but as you got older. Yeah, 189 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: it's like we were more. We looked alike a lot 190 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: more as he got older, which sounds strange, but it 191 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: is a kid. He kind of looked a little different, 192 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: if you get what I'm saying. I guess it was 193 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: the haircut. He had different hair than me. 194 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 4: Yeah you know, but yeah, funny, yeah, oh. Do keep 195 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 4: us on your dial. We've got a lot of great 196 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 4: content coming your way. Mike do Set and Greg Workman 197 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 4: will explain why the strategy that grows your money during 198 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 4: working years may need to change once retirement begins. Mary, 199 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 4: Madeline Kelly and Greg Murray will explore financial harmony, why 200 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 4: your money should work together. When William and I return, 201 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 4: we will talk about how retirees can protect their lifestyle 202 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 4: and income even as tax laws and policies continue to change. 203 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 4: And of course we'll close the hour with some wit 204 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 4: and wisdom from the late Bill Kelly. His words continue 205 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 4: to inspire and guide us. That's a wrap for forever. 206 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: Young thank you for listening, and William, thank you for 207 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 4: joining me. We'll be back with more great content. William, 208 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 4: I love you, Honey, I love you too. 209 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 7: All right, Boston, let's talk about your money. Washington just 210 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 7: passed what the President calls the one Big, Beautiful Bill, 211 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 7: and yes, there are significant tax changes in it. Lower 212 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 7: rates remain in place. There's a new deduction for Americans 213 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 7: over sixty five. Estate exemptions are expanding. That could mean 214 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 7: more of your hard earned money staying where it belongs 215 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 7: with you. 216 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: But here's the reality. 217 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 7: Even tax relief requires thoughtful planning. Some provisions may sunset 218 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 7: in the coming years. Healthcare eligibility rules are evolving. How 219 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 7: will all these changes apply to your retirement income? That's 220 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:35,359 Speaker 7: why Kelly Financial created a new guide, Unlock your tax savings. 221 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: Call now to get your. 222 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 7: Copy eight eighty eight eight hundred and eighteen eighty one 223 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 7: or email Kelly at Kelly Financial dot org. 224 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: Kelly at Kelly Financial dot org. Welcome back to the show. 225 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 8: I'm Mike Dusaid, Chief operating Officer, and alongside me, as 226 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 8: always is Greg Workman, investment Advisor. We're glad you're spending 227 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 8: part of your weekend with us. 228 00:11:59,360 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: Greg. 229 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 8: Over the past several weeks, we've talked about retirement income, 230 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 8: the first five years of retirement, tax traps, a lot 231 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 8: of really important topics. But today I want to zoom 232 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 8: out and talk about something more foundational. Investing while you're 233 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 8: working and investing once you retire are actually two completely 234 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 8: different games. 235 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 9: They really are, Mike, and most people don't realize that 236 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 9: they spend thirty or forty years mastering the accumulation game, 237 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 9: but they never shift strategies when it's time to start 238 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 9: distributing exactly. 239 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 8: And if you don't recognize when the rules change, you 240 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 8: can make. 241 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: Some costly mistakes. So let's define terms. 242 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 8: When we talk about the accumulation phase, we're talking about 243 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 8: your working years. This is when you're contributing to your 244 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 8: four to oh one k IRA brokerage account, maybe even 245 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 8: a pension plan. You're earning income, you're adding money consistently. 246 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 8: The primary objective is simple grow the assets. 247 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 9: And during accumulation you have two powerful advantages that retirees 248 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 9: don't have. Time and contributions. If the market drops fifteen 249 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 9: or twenty percent, it's uncomfortable. Nobody likes seeing their balance 250 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 9: go down. But if you're still working, still learning, still 251 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 9: contributing every two weeks or so, you're actually buying shares 252 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 9: at lower prices. 253 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 8: That's such an important mindset shift during accumulation. Market downturns 254 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 8: aren't necessarily catastrophic. They can be opportunities. Let's walk through 255 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 8: a hypothetical example. Let's say we're working with a hypothetical client. 256 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 8: We'll call him David. He's fifty two years old, earning 257 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 8: a strong income, contributing the maximum to his four oh 258 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 8: one k he plans to retire. 259 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: At sixty five. 260 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 8: If the market pulls back fifteen percent this year, David 261 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 8: doesn't love it. He logs in and sees his balance down, 262 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 8: but he's not withdrawing money. In fact, he's adding to 263 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 8: it every pay period. So instead of selling, he's buying automatically. 264 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 9: That's dollar cost averaging at work. When prices are lower, 265 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 9: your fixed contributions purchase more shares over time. That can 266 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 9: smooth volatility and potentially enhance long term returns. David's biggest 267 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 9: asset now isn't even his retirement account. It's his ability 268 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 9: to earn income, his human capital. He is thirteen or 269 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 9: more years of earnings and contributions ahead of him. 270 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 8: And that earning power acts like a shock absorber. Is 271 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 8: another key concept during accumulation. Volatility is primarily emotional risk, 272 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 8: not structural risk. The biggest danger for David isn't the 273 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 8: market decline itself. 274 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: It's panic. 275 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 8: It's stopping contributions, it's selling at the bottom. Structurally, the 276 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 8: math still works for him. He has time to recover. Historically, 277 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 8: markets move in cycles over long periods. They've trind it upward. 278 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 8: Time is his ally exactly. Time allows compounding. 279 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 6: To do its job. 280 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 9: If you're thirty, forty, or even fifty years old, you 281 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 9: may have decades before you need to touch that money. 282 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 9: That changes how you should think about short term ups 283 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 9: and downs of the stock market. 284 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 8: And this is where we often explain the difference between 285 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 8: risk tolerance and risk capacity. David might say I hate 286 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 8: seeing my balance drop. That's risk tolerance, how you emotionally react. 287 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 8: But his risk capacity, his financial ability to withstand volatility, 288 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 8: is actually high because he's employed, he's contributing, he's not withdrawing, 289 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 8: he has a. 290 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: Long time horizon. 291 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 8: Those factors give him room to take on more growth 292 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 8: oriented investments, and that's. 293 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 9: Why accumulation portfolios often lean heavily towards equities or risk. 294 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 6: Growth is the objective. 295 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 9: You're not trying to create income at that stage. You're 296 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 9: building the base that will eventually generate income during your 297 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 9: retirement years. 298 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 8: And psychologically, accumulation is very straightforward. You measure progress by 299 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 8: the account balance. You log into your four oh one K, 300 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 8: and you think, is it up or down? Success is 301 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 8: defined by growth. But notice whatquestion you're not asking during accumulation, 302 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 8: How do I turn this into a paycheck? That question 303 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 8: really enters the conversation while you're still working. 304 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 9: And that's normal. During accumulation, your paycheck comes from your employer. 305 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 9: Your investments their secondary. They're long term, they're for the future. 306 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 8: But eventually that flips, and here's where the metaphor of 307 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 8: two different games really becomes powerful. Accumulation is like offense. 308 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 8: You're moving the ball down the field. You're taking calculated risks, 309 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 8: you're trying to score. 310 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: Points, grow the account. But you don't win. 311 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 8: Championships with offense alone. Eventually defense matters, and retirement the 312 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 8: distribution phase is a defensive game. 313 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 9: That's right, because once the paychecks stop, you no longer 314 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 9: have contributions offsetting volatility. 315 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 6: You're not buying more shares during downturns. 316 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 9: In fact, you may be selling shares to generate income, 317 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 9: and that's a completely different mathematical equation. 318 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: We see this mistake all the time. 319 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 8: Someone spends decades building a portfolio designed for growth. 320 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: They retire and nothing changes. 321 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 8: Same allocation, same mindset, same strategy, but the environment has changed. 322 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 8: They've moved from building wealth to relying on it. It's like 323 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 8: training your entire life to climb a mountain, but not 324 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 8: having a strategy for getting down. 325 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 6: Safely and climbing down is where injuries. 326 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 8: Happen exactly, so before we had to break, here's the 327 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 8: question every listener should ask themselves. 328 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: What game am I playing right now? 329 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 8: If you're thirty five in maxing out your four h 330 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 8: one K, you're clearly an accumulation. If you're sixty and 331 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 8: five years from retirement, you're approaching the transition zone. 332 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: And if you are. 333 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 8: Already retired, you are absolutely in a different game. Understanding 334 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 8: that distinction is the first step in building the right strategy. 335 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 8: When we come back, we're going to explain why the 336 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,719 Speaker 8: distribution phase changes the rules, why the same twenty percent 337 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 8: market decline that barely phases David at fifty two could 338 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 8: seriously impact. 339 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: Someone who's sixty seven and income. Stay with us, we'll 340 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: be right back. 341 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: Kelly Financial Services eight eight eight eight hundred eighteen eighty one. 342 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 4: I'm Kelly Kelly from Kelly Financial. Is your financial advisor 343 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 4: a fiduciary? In other words, are they legally required to 344 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 4: act in your best interest? My complimentary book, Retire Your Fear, 345 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 4: Plan Your Future explains what a fiduciary is and will 346 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: help you understand if an advisor is really putting you first. 347 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 5: For the book. 348 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 4: Call eight eight eight eight hundred eighteen eighty one or 349 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 4: email Kelly at Kellyfinancial dot org. 350 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 5: We're Kelly Financial. Come retire with us. 351 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: The Money Wrap with Kelly Financial Advisors Greg Murray and 352 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: Mary Madeline Kelly. 353 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 10: Hello, this is Greg Murray, Senior vice president and Chief 354 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 10: Compliance Officer at Kelly Financial Services. Joining me today is 355 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 10: Mary madel Kelly, one of our wealth advisors. How are 356 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 10: you doing today. 357 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 11: I'm doing great and I'm very excited to be back 358 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 11: because I just returned from my trip to Japan, which 359 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 11: was absolutely incredible. The culture, the food, the history, it 360 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 11: was such a unique experience. One thing that really stood 361 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 11: out to me was how much the culture emphasizes harmony 362 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 11: and balance in everyday life. 363 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 10: That's interesting, and I know while you were in Japan, 364 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 10: I was over in Finland. Different cultures of course, but 365 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 10: in a lot of ways, both places share that appreciation 366 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 10: for simplicity, structure, and things working together smoothly. 367 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 11: Exactly in Japan, they even have a concept called wah, 368 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 11: which essentially means harmony, the idea that different elements should 369 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 11: work together in a balanced and respectful way. And it 370 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 11: actually got me thinking about financial planning because the best 371 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 11: financial plans work the exact same way. 372 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 10: That's a great comparison. When people think about their finances, 373 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 10: they often look at things individually, their investments, their retirement accounts, 374 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 10: maybe insurance or taxes, but they don't always think about 375 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 10: how all those pieces interact. 376 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 11: And when those pieces aren't coordinated, it can create friction. 377 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 11: Just like anything else in life. You might have a 378 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 11: great investment strategy, but if it isn't aligned with your 379 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 11: tax situation, your retirement income needs, or your risk tolerance, 380 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 11: things can feel disorganized. 381 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 10: And that's where the idea of financial harmony really comes 382 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 10: into play. A strong financial plan isn't just about having 383 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 10: the right investments. It's about making sure your investments, taxes, 384 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 10: income strategy, insurances, and estate planning all work together exactly. 385 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 11: Now. Think about retirement planning as an example. People often 386 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 11: focus heavily on building their retirement accounts, which is important, 387 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 11: but once retirement actually arrives, the question becomes how all 388 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 11: these resources work together to support your lifestyle. 389 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 10: You might have social security retirement accounts like iras or 390 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 10: four oh one ks, brokerage accounts, maybe even real estate income. 391 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 10: If those sources aren't coordinated, carefully, you could end up 392 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 10: paying more taxes than necessary or creating unnecessary stress. 393 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 11: Yes, and taxes are a great example of where harmony matters. 394 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 11: Investment decisions affect taxes, withdrawal strategy jees affect taxes. Even 395 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 11: the timing of income can affect medicare premiums or how 396 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 11: much of your social security. 397 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 10: Is taxed, and of course investing in false risk, including 398 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 10: the potential loss of principle. But thoughtful coordination can help 399 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 10: manage those risks more effectively. 400 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 11: Another piece of financial harmony is balancing growth and protection. 401 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 11: Some assets are designed for long term growth, while others 402 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 11: are there for stability or income. When those rules are 403 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 11: clearly defined, the overall plan tends to work much more smoothly. 404 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 10: Without that balance, people sometimes feel their money is pulling 405 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 10: them in different directions, growth in one area, risk in another, 406 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 10: uncertainty about income. 407 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 11: But when a plan is coordinated, it creates clarity. People 408 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 11: understand what each piece of their financial life is meant to. 409 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 10: Do, and that clarity often leads to something we talk 410 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 10: about a lot on the show. 411 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: Peace of Mind. 412 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 11: Yes, financial harmony doesn't just improve numbers on a spreadsheet, 413 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 11: It improves how people feel about their financial future. Instead 414 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 11: of worrying about whether they've missed something, they feel confident 415 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 11: that their plan is working as a system. 416 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 10: Another area where harmony matters is state planning. Investments, trust, 417 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 10: beneficiary designations, and insurance all need to align so that 418 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 10: assets transfers smoothly and according to your wishes. 419 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 11: And that's especially important because small misalignments can sometimes create 420 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 11: big consequences, things like outdated beneficiaries or accounts that don't 421 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 11: match the overall estate plan. 422 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 10: So when we talk about financial harmony, we're really talking 423 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 10: about coordination. 424 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 11: It's all about making sure all the moving parts investments, taxes, retirement, income, 425 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 11: risk management, and state planning support each other instead of 426 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 11: working at cross purposes. 427 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 10: And just like in Japanese culture, harmony doesn't happen by accident. 428 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 10: It requires intention and thoughtful design. That's a great way 429 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 10: to put it. Financial plans don't become harmonious automatically. They're 430 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 10: through careful planning and regular review. And of course, every 431 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 10: financial situation is unique, so those strategies should always be 432 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 10: tailored to individual goals, timelines, and comfort levels. 433 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 11: But the takeaway is simple. When your financial life is 434 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 11: organized and coordinated, everything tends to feel calmer and more manageable. 435 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 11: Brings us back to the lesson you noticed in Japan. 436 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 11: Harmony isn't just about avoiding conflict. It's about creating balance exactly, 437 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 11: and the best financial plans do the same thing. They 438 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 11: bring balance and clarity to something that can otherwise feel complicated. 439 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: Well said, that's going to wrap things up. If you'd 440 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: like how. 441 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 10: Bringing more harmony and coordination to your financial plan, give 442 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 10: us a call. We'd be happy to walk through your 443 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 10: situation with you. 444 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 11: Absolutely well, Thanks Greg, and enjoy the rest of your weekend. 445 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 3: To get in touch with Greg Murray or Mary, Madeline 446 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: Kelly or any member of the Kelly Financial team called 447 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: at at eight eight hundred eighteen eighty one. Save Money 448 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 3: Strategies with William Kelly and Kelly Kelly. Call the team 449 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 3: on at A eight eight hundreds, eighteen eighty one. 450 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 4: Care Welcome back to Save Money Strategies. I'm Kelly Kelly 451 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 4: here with my son, William Kelly Junior, and today we're 452 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 4: talking about something that's making a lot of headlines lately, 453 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 4: the One Big Beautiful Bill. Now, whenever Washington passes a 454 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 4: major law that affects taxes, healthcare, or retirement planning, people 455 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 4: naturally start asking a simple question, what does this mean 456 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 4: for my retirement, Because beyond headlines, what really matters is 457 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 4: how these changes affect your income, your healthcare planning, and 458 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 4: the future you're building for your family. 459 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: That's right, mom. 460 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: One thing we've learned working with families over the years 461 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 2: is that policy changes come and go, laws evolve, and 462 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: tax rules shift. What a strong retirement plan should remain 463 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: study and that's really what today's conversation is about. Helping 464 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: people understand what these changes may mean so that they 465 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 2: can make thoughtful decisions instead of reacting to headlines. 466 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 4: Let's start with something many retirees care deeply about, Social Security. 467 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 4: There was a lot of discussion over the past year 468 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 4: about eliminating taxes on Social Security entirely, but what the 469 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 4: legislation actually introduces is something a little different. There's a 470 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 4: temporary additional deduction available for seniors over age sixty five, 471 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 4: which could reduce taxable income for some retirees so much. 472 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: Does that mean Social Security won't be taxed anymore? 473 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 6: William? 474 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 4: That is a great question, and the answer is not exactly. 475 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 4: Social Security benefits can still be taxable depending on your 476 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 4: total income. And how your retirement income is structured. So 477 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 4: it isn't a full elimination of taxes. It's more like 478 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 4: a modest adjustment that may provide some additional breathing room. 479 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: For many middle aged income retirees, that deduction could simply 480 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 2: mean keeping a little more of their own money for 481 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: each year. But it's still important to look at the 482 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: bigger picture when it comes to how retirement income is 483 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: taxed exactly. 484 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 4: And when we talk with families about changes like this, 485 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 4: we usually remind them not to think of it as 486 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 4: a windfall. Instead, think of it as an opportunity to 487 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 4: strengthen your plan. Maybe it helps build an emergency reserve, 488 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 4: maybe it helps reduce a little debt, or maybe it 489 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 4: simply provides a little more flexibility to enjoy retirement relief 490 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 4: is helpful, but thoughtful planning is still essential. 491 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 2: Another area where the legislation creates some flexibility involves education planning, 492 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: especially when grandparents want to help support their children. Many 493 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: families today are using the five two nine education accounts, 494 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 2: and the rules around those accounts have expanded. Funds may 495 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: now be used for a wider range of educational purposes, 496 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 2: including tutoring, certification, programs and certain types of career training, 497 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: and honestly, mom, we see this all the time with 498 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: families we work with. Grandparents really love being able to 499 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: help their grandchildren get started in life. 500 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 4: And for many grands parents, that can be incredibly meaningful 501 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 4: because legacy isn't just about what you leave someday. Sometimes 502 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 4: it is about the opportunities you help create while you're 503 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 4: here to see the impact. Helping a grandchild pursue education 504 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 4: or a career path can strengthen family relationships and create 505 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 4: important conversations about responsibility and financial values, and many retirees 506 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 4: tell us that supporting the next generation becomes one of 507 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,719 Speaker 4: the most rewarding parts of retirement. 508 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: Another important part of this conversation involves healthcare and long 509 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 2: term care planning. Some of those provisions in the new 510 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: law involve adjustments to medicate eligibility and how long term 511 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: care is evaluated. For many Americans, Medicaid ultimately becomes the 512 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: program that helps cover long term care expenses later in life. 513 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 4: Which means planning ahead becomes even more important. The best 514 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 4: time to think about long term care plan planning is 515 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 4: before a crisis happens, not when a family is already 516 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 4: dealing with a health challenge, Families should talk about preferences early. 517 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 4: Would you prefer home care if possible, would assisted living 518 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 4: be acceptable? What would you want if more advanced care 519 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 4: becomes necessary. These conversations aren't always easy, but they can 520 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 4: make a tremendous difference later on for spouses and adult children. 521 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: Another change getting attention involves the state tax exemptions, which 522 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 2: you are expected to increase to roughly fifteen million dollars 523 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: per person starting twenty twenty six. Now that level won't 524 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: affect every family, but estate planning is about much more than. 525 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 4: Taxes exactly, even for families with more modest estates, Having 526 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 4: clear documents like wills and trusts can prevent confusion and 527 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 4: unnecessary legal complications. Without planning, families sometimes face delays and 528 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 4: unnecessary stress during an already emotional time. With the right 529 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 4: planning in place, assets can transfer smoothly according to your wishes, 530 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 4: and in many ways, planning your estate is one of 531 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 4: the most thoughtful things you can do for the people you. 532 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: Love and mom This really highlights a bigger point. Tax 533 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: laws change, healthcare rules evolve, and retirement policies shift, and 534 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: when those changes happen, many people feel uncertain about what 535 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: actually applies to them. 536 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 4: Which is exactly why our team at Kelly Financial created 537 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 4: a guide called Unlock Your Tax Savings. This guide walks 538 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 4: through many of these changes in straightforward language and helps 539 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 4: retirees understand how evolving tax rules may affect their financial picture, 540 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 4: because when you have clarity, you can make decisions calmly 541 00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 4: and confident. 542 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 3: Late. 543 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 5: If you'd like a copy of our Unlock your. 544 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 4: Tax Savings Guide, simply reach out to our team. You 545 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 4: can call us at eight eight eight eight hundred eighteen 546 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 4: eighty one or email kellyat Kellyfinancial dot org and we'll 547 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 4: be happy to send that guide to you. 548 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 2: And when we come back, we'll continue this conversation because 549 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: understanding the policy changes is only the first step that's right. 550 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 4: In our next segment, we'll talk about how retirees can 551 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 4: protect their lifestyle as tax laws, healthcare policies, and retirement 552 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 4: rules continue to evolve. Stay with us, we'll be right back. 553 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: Safe money strategies brought to you by Kelly Financial Services. 554 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 3: Call eight eight eight eight hundred eighteen eighty one or 555 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 3: visit Kellyfinancial dot org. 556 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 12: Ready to enjoy your golden years without worry at Kelly Financial. 557 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 12: We know retirement planning can be overwhelming. With more than 558 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 12: twenty two years of experience, our friendly team of advisors 559 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 12: makes it easy and stress free. Trust us to help 560 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 12: you create a secure and enjoyable future. For a free 561 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 12: initial retirement consultation called eight eight eight eight hundred eighteen 562 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 12: eighty one or email Kelly at Kellyfinancial dot org. We're 563 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 12: Kelly Financial. Come retire with. 564 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 3: Us Safe Money Strategies with William Kelly and Kelly Kelly. 565 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: Call the team on eight eight eight hundred eighteen eighty one. 566 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 12: Thank care. 567 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 4: Than Welcome back to Safe Money Strategies. I'm Kelly Kelly 568 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 4: here with my son William. Before the break, we were 569 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 4: talking about some of the recent techs and policy changes 570 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 4: that are getting attention right now and how these changes 571 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 4: may affect retirees and their families. But understanding the policy 572 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 4: changes is really only the first step. The bigger question 573 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 4: is how do you protect your retirement lifestyle when laws 574 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 4: and policies continue to evolve. 575 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: That's exactly right, mom. One important thing people should understand 576 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: is that many provisions in the new legislation are temporary. 577 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: Some of the deductions and adjustments we discussed earlier are 578 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: scheduled to last only through twenty twenty eight. So one 579 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: of the key lessons here is that retirement planning can't 580 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 2: assume today's rules will last forever. Instead, retirees need flexibility 581 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 2: in their plans so that they can adjust if laws 582 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: or healthcare policies change in the future. 583 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 4: Good planning is not about predicting the future perfectly. It's 584 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 4: about building a strategy that can adapt over time, because 585 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 4: the truth is Washington will always continue to make adjustments 586 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 4: to tax laws and retirement rules. But when your plan 587 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 4: is structured carefully, those changes become manageable instead of stressful. 588 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: Another important topic that continues to come up is long 589 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 2: term care planning. As we mentioned earlier, changes in Medicaid 590 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: eligibility and program oversight mean families shouldn't automatically assume government 591 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: programs will cover future care. For many retirees, that realization 592 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: can feel a little uncomfortable, but it also gives family 593 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: an opportunity to start planning earlier. 594 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 4: Exactly, long term care planning isn't just a financial issue. 595 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 4: It's a family conversation. Where would you prefer to receive 596 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 4: care if ever became necessary? Would you prefer to stay 597 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 4: in your home as long as possible. Would assisted living 598 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 4: be acceptable if that offered more support. These conversations aren't 599 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 4: always easy, but having them early can make a tremendous 600 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 4: difference later for spouses and adult children. 601 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: Another key part of retirement planning involves income stability. When 602 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 2: markets move up and down and policy changes create uncertainty, 603 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: many retirees start to feel anxious about their financial future. 604 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 2: But one way to reduce that stress is by creating 605 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 2: reliable income streams in retirement. 606 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 4: You'll often hear us talk about the idea of mailbox money. 607 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 4: That's income that arrives regularly, just like Social Security, and 608 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 4: doesn't depend on what the stock market happened to do 609 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 4: that week. When retirees have dependable income sources supporting their lifestyle, 610 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 4: it often creates a tremendous sense of calm. They don't 611 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 4: feel like they have to check the market every day, 612 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 4: and they can focus on enjoying retirement rather than worrying 613 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 4: about every financial headline. 614 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 2: And that's really the goal, because at the end of 615 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 2: the day, retirement planning isn't just about building wealth. It's 616 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 2: about turning what you've saved into income you can actually 617 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: live on. Month after month, year after year. 618 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 4: Another topic we've been thinking about recently is something that 619 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 4: often gets so overlooked and retirement planning, and that's physical health. 620 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 4: Financial planning and health planning really go hand in hand. 621 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 2: Research consistently shows that even modest physical activity things like 622 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 2: walking regularly or getting your heart rate up for just 623 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: a short time each day, can support long term health 624 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 2: and longevity. And when retire, restay active and engaged, they 625 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 2: often enjoy retirement much more fully. 626 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 4: Financial freedom means very little if you don't have the 627 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 4: energy or mobility to enjoy the life you work so 628 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 4: hard to build. So taking care of your health, even 629 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 4: in small daily ways, becomes part of protecting your retirement 630 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 4: lifestyle as well. 631 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: And mom, when we talk about wealth preservation, it's important 632 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 2: to remember that the goal simply isn't about minimizing taxes. 633 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: The goal is creating freedom to live the life you want. 634 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: That's right. 635 00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 4: When your financial plan is strong, it creates options, options 636 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 4: to spend time with family, options to travel, options to 637 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 4: support grandchildren or causes that matter to you. Because wealth 638 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,720 Speaker 4: preservation isn't just about numbers on the statement, it's about 639 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 4: creating a life filled with purpose and connection. 640 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: And As we've talked about today, tax laws and retirement 641 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 2: policies will continue to evolve over time, which is exactly 642 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 2: why education becomes so important. 643 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 4: That's why our team at Kelly Financial created a guide 644 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 4: called Unlock Your Tax Savings. This guide explains many of 645 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 4: the recent policy changes in clear, easy to understand language 646 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 4: and helps retirees think through how those changes may affect 647 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 4: their financial picture. Because when you have clarity, you can 648 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 4: move forward with confidence instead of uncertainty. If you'd like 649 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 4: a copy of the Unlock your Tax Savings Guide, simply 650 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 4: reach out to our team. You can call us at 651 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 4: eight eight eight eight hundred eighteen eighty one or email 652 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 4: kellyat Kellyfinancial dot org and we'll be more than happy 653 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 4: to send that guide to. 654 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: You and mom. 655 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 2: That's really the message we want listeners to take away today. 656 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 2: Policy changes will come and go, but when your financial 657 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 2: plan is thoughtful and well structured, you don't have to 658 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 2: feel reactive to every headline. 659 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 4: Exactly, and that's really the goal, not reacting to every headline, 660 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 4: but having a plan strong enough that you can move 661 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 4: forward with confidence and enjoy the retirement you work so 662 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 4: hard to build. 663 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 2: Stay tuned, we have more informative content coming your way 664 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 2: right here on WRJO. 665 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 3: Safe Money Strategies brought to you by Kelly Financial Services. 666 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 3: Call eight eight eight eight hundred eighteen eighty one or 667 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 3: visit Kellyfinancial dot org. 668 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: Welcome back. 669 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 8: Before the break, we talked about the accumulation phase, the 670 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 8: growth years, when you're working, contributing and building wealth. Now 671 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 8: we're going to talk about the second game, distribution, greg. 672 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 8: This is where the rules really change. 673 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 9: They absolutely do, because once you retire, two of your 674 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 9: biggest advantages disappear, time and contributions. You're no longer adding 675 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 9: money to the portfolio. In fact, you're doing the opposite. 676 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 9: You withdrawing from your nest egg to fund your lifestyle 677 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 9: in retirement when the paycheck stops, and that changes the 678 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 9: math completely. 679 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 8: Let's walk through a hypothetical example to make this rail. Earlier, 680 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 8: we talked about David, age fifty two, still working a 681 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 8: twenty percent market correction is uncomfortable, but manageable because he's 682 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 8: contributing and has time to recover. Now, let's imagine a 683 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 8: hypothetical couple. We'll call them John and Linda. They're both 684 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 8: sixty seven, they just retired last year. They've saved one 685 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 8: point two million across their retirement accounts. They're drawing about 686 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 8: sixty thousand per year from their portfolio to supple and 687 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 8: social security. Now the market drops twenty percent, that's not 688 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 8: just an emotional hit anymore. 689 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 9: That's structural exactly, because now they're withdrawing from a shrinking base. 690 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 9: If they're one point two million dollar portfolio drops to 691 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 9: nine hundred and sixty thousand and they still need sixty 692 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 9: thousand for income, that withdrawal represents a much larger percentage 693 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 9: of the portfolio than it did before the decline. And 694 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 9: this is where something called sequence of returns risk becomes critical. 695 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: Explain that in plain English. 696 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 9: Sequence of returns risk simply means the timing of market 697 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 9: returns matters much more. When you're drawing down on your 698 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 9: nestick during accumulation, the order of returns, whether the market's 699 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 9: up or down in any given year, it doesn't hurt 700 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 9: you as much because you're not taking money out. 701 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 6: But during distribution, if you experience. 702 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 9: Negative returns early on in retirement whils I simultaneously taking withdrawals, 703 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 9: you can permanently damage the portfolio's long term sustainability. 704 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 8: So to retirees with identical average returns over twenty years 705 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 8: can have dramatically different outcomes depending on when the downturns 706 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 8: occur exactly. 707 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 9: Early losses combined with withdrawals can create a hole that's 708 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 9: very difficult to recover from. 709 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 6: And that's why distribution is. 710 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 9: Not just accumulation and reverse It requires a completely different strategy. 711 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 8: So let's talk about what actually changes in accumulation, the 712 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,959 Speaker 8: goal is maximum long term growth. In distribution, the goal 713 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 8: shifts to sustainable income and risk management. That means we're 714 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 8: asking different questions. How do we create reliable cash flow, 715 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 8: how do we reduce volatility impact, how do we make 716 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 8: the portfolio last twenty five or thirty years? 717 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: How do we manage taxes efficiently? 718 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 9: And income planning becomes central for John and Linda. Their 719 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 9: plan might include coordinated social security claiming strategies, pension elections 720 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 9: if there are pensions involved in the mix, a structured 721 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 9: withdrawal strategy from any investment accounts that they have, and 722 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 9: asset allocation adjustments to reduce downside exposure. This is where 723 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 9: we often introduce the idea of building an income floor. 724 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that concept. 725 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 9: An income floor is the amount of predictable income that 726 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 9: covers your essential expenses like housing, food, utilities, and insurance. 727 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 9: For many retirees, social Security forms the foundation. For some 728 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 9: there may also be a pension. Those sources provide stability. 729 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 9: Then we layer portfolio withdrawals on top to fund discretionary spending, travel, hobbies, 730 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 9: and gifts to grandchildren. 731 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 8: So instead of thinking how do I grow this as 732 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 8: fast as possible, we're thinking how do I structure this 733 00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 8: so it pays me reliable. 734 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: That's a completely different mindset. 735 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 9: It is, and it also involves tax efficiency. In accumulation, 736 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 9: you're mostly contributing to tax deferred accounts like four to 737 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 9: one ks and traditional iras. You're focused on reducing taxes 738 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 9: in the here and now today. In distribution, now you're 739 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 9: deciding which account do what drew from first, how do 740 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 9: I manage required minimum distributions, how do I avoid pushing 741 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 9: myself into higher tax brackets, and how do I minimize 742 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 9: the tax burden on my surviving spouse. The strategy becomes 743 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 9: much more nuanced at this point. 744 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: And emotionally it changes too. 745 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 8: During accumulation, market volatility feels like a temporary setback. During distribution, 746 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 8: volatility can create fair because now your lifestyle depends on 747 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 8: the portfolio. 748 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: That's why many retire. 749 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 8: You say, I didn't realize how differently i'd feel once 750 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 8: I stopped working. 751 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 6: That's very common. 752 00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 9: The psychological shift is real, which is why we often 753 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 9: say retirement planning isn't just about returns, it's about structure. 754 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 9: For John and Linda, the right allocation in retirement may 755 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 9: look different than what they had at fifty five and 756 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 9: retirement it might involve more diversification, more emphasis on downside 757 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 9: risk protection, strategic cash reserves to avoid selling stocks during 758 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,879 Speaker 9: downturns in the market, and intentional withdrawal sequencing. It's more 759 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 9: defense and less about offense. 760 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: And here's what we see. 761 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 8: Too often, someone retires but nothing changes, same portfolio, same allocation, 762 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 8: same mindset. They spent thirty years mastering accumulation but never 763 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 8: built a distribution plan. 764 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 9: And that is risky because retirement can last twenty five 765 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 9: or thirty years. That's a long time to rely on 766 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 9: a portfolio without a designed strategy for income sustainability. 767 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 8: So if you're listening today and you're within five years 768 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 8: of retirement, we're already retired. Here's the key takeaway. Make 769 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 8: sure you're playing the right game. Accumulation is about building wealth. 770 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 8: Distribution is about turning wealth into a reliable paycheck. Those 771 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 8: are two different objectives, and different objectives require different strategies exactly. 772 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 9: The tools may overlap stocks, bonds, retirement accounts, but the 773 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 9: purpose changes and purpose drives strategy. 774 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 8: If you'd like to understand how your current plan is structured, 775 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 8: whether you are still playing offense when you should be 776 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 8: focusing on defense, We've put together a resource that walks 777 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 8: through these concepts step by step. It's called the Safe 778 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 8: Money Strategies Workbook. Inside we outline how to evaluate your 779 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 8: income needs, how to think about building an income floor, 780 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 8: how to assess withdrawal risk, and how to transition from 781 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,280 Speaker 8: accumulation to distribution thoughtfully. 782 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: There's no cost. 783 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 8: It's simple and educational guide to help you start asking 784 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 8: the right questions. 785 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 9: Because the most important shift isn't in the markets, it's 786 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 9: in your mindset. 787 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 8: Two different games and knowing which one you are lane 788 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,280 Speaker 8: can make all the difference. 789 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for spending time with us today. We'll see you 790 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: next week. I'm William Kelly Junior. 791 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 2: Many families are thinking about fresh starts, not just financially, 792 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 2: but how young people prepare for what comes next. I've 793 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 2: had the unique experience of growing up around real conversations 794 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 2: with our clients, families, parents and grandparents about money, responsibility, 795 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,280 Speaker 2: and long term thinking. 796 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: Not theory, real life. And it's important to remember that 797 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: all investing involves. 798 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 2: Risk, including the potential loss of principle, which is why habits, education, 799 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 2: and perspective matter so much from the start. 800 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: That's why I wrote Only the Good Investor Young. 801 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,280 Speaker 2: It's a straightforward guide to the basics of money, habits 802 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 2: and decisions that matter over time. Whether you're a client, 803 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 2: a parent or grandparent, or someone just starting out. This 804 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 2: is meant to be practical, clear, and encouraging. We're offering 805 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 2: complimentary signed copies to our WRKL listeners and clients. It's 806 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 2: also available on Amazon and soft her or kindall Call 807 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 2: eight at eight eight hundred and one or email Kelly 808 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 2: at Kelly Financial dot org. 809 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: Good have its starter early. Andy lost a lifetime. 810 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 7: Joining us now as she always does. 811 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: At this time. 812 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 7: She is the co founder, CEO, and president of Kelly 813 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 7: Financial Services, and yes, that is her wonderful name, Kelly. 814 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 1: Kelly Kelly, how are. 815 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 5: You, Good morning, Jeff, I am good. 816 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 4: We've been talking about what the one big beautiful bill 817 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 4: could mean for retirees and what it might mean beyond 818 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 4: the headlines. Yes, there are some new deductions and changes 819 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 4: that could benefit seniors, but here's what really matters. Policies 820 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 4: and laws will always evolve. Your retirement plan should be 821 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 4: designed to adapt. That's why we created our complementary investor guide, 822 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 4: Unlock your Tax Savings. It walks through what's changed, what 823 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 4: may expire, and how these updates could affect income, legacy plans, 824 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 4: and long term care strategies, all in plain English. Because 825 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 4: retirement planning isn't just about taxes. It's about protecting the 826 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 4: life you've worked so hard to build and the people 827 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 4: you care about most. To request your complimentary copy, simply 828 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 4: give us a call or email Kelly at Kellyfinancial dot org. Jeff, 829 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 4: have a wonderful weekend. My best of Grace and the kiddos. 830 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 7: Thank you, Kelly, all the best to you and everyone 831 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 7: at Kelly Financial. To get a free copy of that guide, 832 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 7: and I urge all of you if you can do 833 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 7: get it call now eight eighty eight hundred eighteen eighty 834 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 7: one eight eighty eight eight hundred eighteen eighty one, or 835 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 7: you can actually email Kelly herself personally Kelly at Kellyfinancial 836 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 7: dot org. That's Kelly at Kelly financial dot org. 837 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 3: Safe Money Strategies A eight eight hundred one eight eight. 838 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:18,439 Speaker 4: One, Ladies and Gentlemen. Every week we like to share 839 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 4: a short reflection from Bill Kelly. Bill believed the most 840 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 4: important lessons in this business didn't come from markets or headlines, 841 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 4: but from the people he met along the way. In 842 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 4: this reflection, Bill talks about risk, planning for the future, 843 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 4: and a memorable experience with someone who left a lasting 844 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 4: impression on him. 845 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: Here's Bill. Have you ever thought about your eyes? 846 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 13: For those of you who are fortunate enough to see, 847 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 13: how could an eye be created? Well, I believe someone 848 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 13: had to design it, Ladies and gentlemantt one time I 849 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 13: happened to believe that was God. Some people don't believe that. 850 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 13: Most people who don't believe that probably don't listen to 851 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 13: the show. 852 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:07,760 Speaker 1: And that's okay. 853 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 13: But it's a design for retirement strategies, and it's an approach, 854 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 13: Ladies and Gentlemen, that is all based on income, and 855 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 13: the income has to last you for your lifetime or 856 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 13: you're going to feel very strange in several years if 857 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 13: you run out of income. So if your assets run down, 858 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 13: you're going to have a problem. So if you don't 859 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 13: have a plan, then you're going to have problems. If 860 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 13: you have a plan and it's a poor plan, you're 861 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 13: going to double your problems. 862 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,760 Speaker 1: So the safer the better. So your needs are important. 863 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 13: They have to be identified, and your goals have to 864 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,359 Speaker 13: be identified, and you start from there. Don't fret about that, 865 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 13: and don't feel like you're being disingenuous or not courageous enough. 866 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 13: So you want a premium for your risk. You don't 867 00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 13: want to gamble to have the risk. So that's how 868 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 13: we have to manage risk. Unfortunately, some people feel risk 869 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 13: is a function of how much money you have invested, 870 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,760 Speaker 13: so they feel someone with one point eight million should 871 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 13: have more risk than a person who has three or 872 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 13: four hundred thousand dollars on the table. That's not true. 873 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 13: The amount of money you have invested is not a 874 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 13: factor in risk tolerance. The ability to recover after a 875 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 13: loss and have it not affect your lifestyle, to me 876 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 13: is primary in selecting what your risk tolerance is, and 877 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 13: that's how we do that. So before I tell you 878 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 13: this story, I should mention that the name I'm about 879 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 13: to use has been changed to protect the individual's privacy. 880 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 13: So I had a client named Frank. He used to 881 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 13: come in to visit with me. It was like a 882 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 13: holiday when Frank came to visit. When my son William 883 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 13: was born four years ago, Frank came in. Frank was Italian. 884 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 13: Frank came in with beautiful porcelain piggybank and he had 885 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 13: gotten a gold coin from Italy from William, and that 886 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 13: gold coin sits on my bureau right now. And Frank 887 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 13: would come in and joke. He would bring us different 888 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 13: types of food. He was a humble man. He was 889 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 13: the kind of guy that got along with everyone. He 890 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 13: reminded me so much of my father, his attitudes, his 891 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 13: respect for authority, his reverence for his God. And Frank 892 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 13: was just a wonderful guy to talk to. He would 893 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 13: bring in different Italian tapes and we just had a 894 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 13: great time. And we had fun helping Frank. He enjoyed investing, 895 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,240 Speaker 13: and we loved having a client, but we loved Frank 896 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 13: more for just being Frank. And then one day Frank 897 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 13: came in to see me. He looked a little glum 898 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 13: and he said, Bill, I've been to the doctor and 899 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 13: I had a bad report. Doesn't look good. He said, 900 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,280 Speaker 13: they'd have a spot on my lung. Well, ladies and gentlemen. 901 00:51:59,280 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 1: That was in a. 902 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,840 Speaker 13: Sometime in June, Frank came in and sat down with me, 903 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 13: and he had a sweater on and he had on 904 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,879 Speaker 13: a scarf, and he said, I've started my chemotherapy. And 905 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 13: he said, it really doesn't look good, Bill, And he 906 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,879 Speaker 13: did not look good, Ladies and gentlemen, and I sat there, 907 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 13: we talked, and we set up some things for his 908 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 13: investments in case he did pass. And then about a 909 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 13: month and a half later, Frank came in with his 910 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:36,720 Speaker 13: wife and you could just see that things weren't going well. 911 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 13: And I was sitting behind the desk and Frank always 912 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 13: had a joke and he always had some things that 913 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,800 Speaker 13: just were great to hear. He was a wonderful person. 914 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 13: But he was sitting there with his wife and I 915 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 13: started to cry. And I was trying to sit up 916 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 13: straight and act act like, you know, I was sniffling 917 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 13: or something, but the tears just started going down my face. Well, 918 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 13: Frank looked across the desk and he said said, Bill, 919 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 13: you look like you have an analogy. You're okay, and 920 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 13: That was typical of Frank when things were worse for him, 921 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 13: as bad as they could be, he was worried about 922 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 13: other people. So I had to go into the next 923 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 13: room and I just had to cry it out, and 924 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,280 Speaker 13: I had to come back and I said, I'm very upset, 925 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 13: I'm very sorry about what's happening. And we think a 926 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 13: lot of you, and we're going to miss you if 927 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 13: you're not well, so we really want you to try 928 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 13: your best to get well soon. And then we went 929 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 13: on with a meeting. Frank had some more jokes, he 930 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 13: had some tapes for me, some I think Perry Como tapes, 931 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,280 Speaker 13: and off he went. By the time he left, everybody 932 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 13: was okay. And then I believe Frank went into the 933 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 13: hospital on a Thursday, and then. 934 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: Frank was gone. 935 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 13: It took, I believe, less than five months from the 936 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 13: day he told me that he had a spot on 937 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:10,240 Speaker 13: his lung till the day that God took him into heaven. 938 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:12,760 Speaker 1: That was it no more, Frank. 939 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 13: And I look at that gold coin, and I look 940 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 13: at that beautiful piggy bank that he gave William, and 941 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 13: I think about Frank probably once a week, and what 942 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,439 Speaker 13: a wonderful person he was the things that we did 943 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 13: when he came in, the meetings I used to have 944 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 13: with him. Sometimes he'd come in on a Saturday, and 945 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 13: frankly it'd be my only meeting, but I'd come up 946 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 13: to the office because I'd sit with Frank. And I 947 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 13: learned something someone in the business once told me. I 948 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 13: learned this business from my clients, by their reactions, by 949 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 13: their successes, by the things were able to do with 950 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 13: them and for them. And I learned a lot of 951 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 13: this business from Frank about how to be human and 952 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,839 Speaker 13: how to get to know clients, how to be able 953 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 13: to accept things from clients. Was a hard lesson for 954 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 13: me because I thought I had to be very stoic. 955 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 13: So Frank went away. It was very quick, and we 956 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 13: know he's in heaven and we know that someday his 957 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 13: family will join him there, and they're having a great 958 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,320 Speaker 13: time up there in heaven with Frank because there's plenty 959 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 13: of jokes, there's plenty of great stories, there's plenty of 960 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 13: reverence and awe about God and Christ. And we know 961 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,320 Speaker 13: we're going to see Frank someday if I'm fortunate enough 962 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,360 Speaker 13: to be there. I hope he puts it in a 963 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,479 Speaker 13: good word for me. But it's a suddenness to life, 964 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 13: ladies and gentlemen. So if you ever feel it's time 965 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,399 Speaker 13: to act, and you ever get that intuition it's time 966 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 13: to make a change, don't ignore it because that opportunity 967 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 13: might not exist forever. It might mean that opportunity missed 968 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 13: would be an opportunity loss. But as for me, ladies 969 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 13: and gentlemen, the way I see it, don't be ashamed. 970 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,479 Speaker 13: If you don't want to take risk right now, you'll 971 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 13: find yourself maybe a little more comfortable if you give 972 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 13: yourself permission to have safe money. 973 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 3: I'm called Kelly Financial Services eight eight eight hundred eighteen 974 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:24,959 Speaker 3: eighty one. 975 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 4: I'm Kelly Kelly from Kelly Financial. Whether you're in your sixties, seventies, 976 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 4: or eighties, financial advice is important when it comes to 977 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 4: preserving your nest egg. We have a free investor guide 978 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 4: called designing your Fiscal House to Weather the Elements, which 979 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 4: highlights the steps needed to build a balanced portfolio. For 980 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 4: the guide, call eight eight eight eight hundred eighteen eighty 981 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 4: one or email Kelly at Kellyfinancial dot org. 982 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 5: We're Kelly Financial. Come retire with us. 983 00:56:55,360 --> 00:57:00,080 Speaker 3: Safe money strategies with William Kelly and Kelly Kelly. Go 984 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 3: to kelly financial dot org