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Speaker 1: you what it's. Uh, you get used to certain things, right.

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Speaker 1: Oh what do we have going on today? Joe Waddell

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Speaker 1: it is rocking some very some very cool looking Reds

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Speaker 1: So we are very very excited about the start of

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Speaker 1: we call this show the the Midweek Crisis, and a

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Speaker 1: And you'll find writers and articles and contributors to the

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Speaker 1: And Adam Taylor, it's great to have you tonight on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me on. This is awesome.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about for the people who may not know,

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Speaker 1: and I was wondering to myself, why have only known

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. We launched it in November, and

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Speaker 2: actually we I've got history and startups, so in politics

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Speaker 2: And everyone has subscription fatigue. Nobody likes subscriptions anymore. Everybody's

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Speaker 2: the end of the year. But our Cincinnati Exchange website

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Speaker 3: Well that's right.

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Speaker 2: When they sold the railroad, they locked themselves into only

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Speaker 1: Well, you're buying powers obviously. And that's that's what I

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Speaker 1: love about about the writing that you did here, Adam,

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Speaker 1: and you talk about lane mile rehabilitation costs of increase

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Speaker 1: and how much it costs to rehab a mile of road.

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Speaker 2: Number, right, so you're you're able to build less road,

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Speaker 2: so you know, you know, before I think the number

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Speaker 2: but I think it was like thirty five hundred miles

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the number. I've got the article right in

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Speaker 2: Into perspective, that's like going from Miami and back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I looked that we're out of looked it up,

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Speaker 1: and Cincinnati has roughly three thousand miles or lane miles

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Speaker 1: So it's right there, about three thousand lane miles of road,

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Speaker 1: and the city typically rehabs between fifty and one hundred

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Speaker 1: if you look at the total number of lane miles,

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Speaker 2: And then he had he had a mayoral election coming

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Speaker 1: Well, and there's other factors here too. And you talk

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Speaker 2: That's right. And so if you're making six and a

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Speaker 2: against fifty one percent inflation. Well, so I mean, this

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Speaker 2: Time, the value of that money is going to decline.

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Speaker 2: Remember that they were going to offer the railroad. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: How about how about that? I did not know.

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Speaker 2: That that's right in Norfolk, Southern is also a telecom

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Speaker 1: Well, Adam Kayler, that this whole piece, and I can't

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Speaker 1: begs the question is did the city manager explore any

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Speaker 1: It seems it seems to me, though, that a professional

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Speaker 2: Well, Dan, I'll tell you all the smart people I

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Speaker 2: So if that tells me anything, you know, there's a

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Speaker 2: I called my cousin, he works at Proctor, and I said,

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Speaker 2: Norfolk Southern. I said, what would you borrow money at?

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Speaker 1: Well, Adam Taylor, we got to run. But just in short,

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Speaker 2: That's all right, And the reason that's the Exchange is

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Speaker 2: because I want this to be real people, real people

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Speaker 1: All right, Adam, kaylor great talking say you tonight. We

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Speaker 1: certainly I will be calling on you again. I'm certain

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Speaker 1: it's the sad thing is it doesn't appear that there

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Speaker 1: So with that, yeah, Adam, Yeah, we got a run.

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Speaker 1: I'm way late for a break. Great, great talking to you, Adam.

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Speaker 1: Keep up the great work and all the best to you.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk again soon. All right, there you go, Adam Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much from the Cincinnati Exchange. And I'm

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Speaker 1: There's another dimension to the sale that does not appear

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Speaker 1: And so I remember, you know, if my memory serves

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Speaker 1: and I know one of the things that I talked

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Speaker 1: about repeatedly was the opportunity for a corrupt to sneak

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Speaker 1: into the handling of this money. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: what so much time was spent structuring this and the

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Speaker 1: way the money could be used, and how the money

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Speaker 1: could be used in order to prevent corruption. So we

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Speaker 1: may have structured this in such a way that corruption

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Speaker 1: is not a factor here. And I am not suggesting

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Speaker 1: that there is any corruption to this in the way

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Speaker 1: that money is handled at all, not suggesting that at all,

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Speaker 1: but I think so much attention was paid to that

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Speaker 1: some of these other things may have been overlooked. So

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Speaker 1: this is just a really, really well done piece. And

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Speaker 1: I want to thank Adam Taylor for being a guest

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Speaker 1: on the show earlier tonight. Jim and me Oia what

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Speaker 1: say you?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Dan, I'm sorry, I'm on the wrong page. Good

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Speaker 4: good show.

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Speaker 1: You're on the wrong page. What does that mean?

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Speaker 4: Didn't it didn't the city give eight million to some

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Speaker 4: some thing in for a music hall and where the

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Speaker 4: thing was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they just approved giving eight eight million dollars to M. E. M.

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Speaker 1: I for the construction of the new music venue down

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Speaker 1: there on the where Cony Island used to be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. So you know, like what then? What

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, I know what you're saying. I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why that was necessary for the city to

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Speaker 1: do that. And now now it looks like and township

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Speaker 1: maybe looking at uh, maybe looking at getting in on

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Speaker 1: the you know, on the on the the gravy train there, and.

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Speaker 4: It's like, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: cut your check right a million. And you guys didn't

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Speaker 4: even know how much that music hall is going to cost.

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Speaker 4: So it's just these people don't know how to make

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Speaker 4: money work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jim, thank you very much for the call. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and again, I mean these are all things to my

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Speaker 1: way of thinking that that that should have been considered

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Speaker 1: before the trigger was pulled on this deal. The Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Southern Line connects the Midwest to the southeast, the region

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Speaker 1: that continues to lead the country and population growth. According

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Speaker 1: to the US Census Bureau, the South has been the

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Speaker 1: fastest growing region in the country, driving increased housing construction, logistics,

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Speaker 1: demand freight movement. More people, more homes, More homes means

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Speaker 1: more materials. Those materials move by rail. The long term

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Speaker 1: demand trend is not staff, it is moving towards the

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Speaker 1: quarter that Cincinnati sold. Cincinnati did not have to choose

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Speaker 1: between selling the railroad and doing nothing. Other models exist

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Speaker 1: in Mexico. Rail quarters are operated under concession agreements where

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Speaker 1: the government retains control and collects a share of revenue.

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Southern disclosed and its filing that its Mexican

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Speaker 1: operations are subject to a concession structure tied to revenue.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati was in a similar position, owning the corridor without

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Speaker 1: operating the trains. Alternative structures were possible, lease agreements with

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Speaker 1: escalation revenue participation tied to usage, hybrid models combining fixed

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Speaker 1: income and upside. Instead, the city chose a full asset sale.

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Speaker 1: Before the sale, Cincinnati held an had held a hard

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Speaker 1: infrastructure asset that was scarce, difficult to replicate, physically constrained,

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Speaker 1: aligned with aligned with long term economic trends. After the sale,

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Speaker 1: the city holds a financial portfolio exposed to market fluctuations,

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Speaker 1: dependent on external management, subject of voluntility. So this is

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Speaker 1: just some insight into this. That's my way of thinking.

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Speaker 1: Should have, could have, and it just should have been

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Speaker 1: all this should have been ferreted out before the before

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Speaker 1: the deal was done. And I don't I don't recall

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Speaker 1: anyone from the city talking about these issues or addressing

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Speaker 1: these particular issues. But it's water on the bridge too

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Speaker 1: late now, so we will see how the time they look.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not like the one point six billion or

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Speaker 1: the one point nine billion that it's worth now is

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Speaker 1: going to disappear overnight, But to think that that big

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Speaker 1: chunk of money is going to solve a lot of

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Speaker 1: the problems that that faces Cincinnati, especially in a financial sense,

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Speaker 1: and you really can't hang your hat on too much

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Speaker 1: of that. And I think that a lot of this

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Speaker 1: was was again was structured in a way that gave

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Speaker 1: everyone a good feeling about this that there wasn't going

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Speaker 1: to be contracts handed out, that hopefully that money wasn't

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Speaker 1: going to find its way back into the politicians pockets.

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Speaker 1: I think I think we were all rightly concerned about

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Speaker 1: that given the recent history of some members of us

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati City Council. So hopefully those structures will hold up

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Speaker 1: and do what we hope they will do in terms

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Speaker 1: of political corruption. But I ask yourself, are you happy

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Speaker 1: with with the way that this has all been handled

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Speaker 1: to date? Are you happy with the reporting and the transparency?

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Speaker 1: And I know Todd Zenzer's talked about it, and he's

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Speaker 1: had difficulty finding finding facts on this. So it's not

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Speaker 1: just it's not just us, but a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that have been looking at this as well, what do

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Speaker 1: we have coming up on the show and after the

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Speaker 1: news here at the top of the hour, I've got

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Speaker 1: on from the Heritage Foundation, Andrew Harding, and he has

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Speaker 1: joined a couple of time a couple of times, and

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Speaker 1: he is an expert at the Heritage Foundation. And it

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Speaker 1: let me look at some of these headlines that are

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Speaker 1: coming out of Operation Epic Fury. In the war with Iran.

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Speaker 1: US sends a fifteen point plan to end the war

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Speaker 1: with Iran, and then we see the headline that Iran

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Speaker 1: rejects the peace plan. There may be seven thousand ground

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Speaker 1: forces invading Tehran. The Iran has laid a small number

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Speaker 1: of naval minds in the Strait of Horror, moves the

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Speaker 1: Pentagon ready to send three thousand airborne troops. Eighty second

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Speaker 1: airborne troops made deployeds in the Middle East. Iran launches

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Speaker 1: missiles on Israel. Nine thousand Aradian targets hit so far.

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Speaker 1: I mean, all these headlines and it seems like so

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Speaker 1: much of it is contradictory. And that's the one thing

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Speaker 1: that my guests here after the news top of the Hour,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Harding has been really good at when it comes

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Speaker 1: to separating all that out when it comes to talking about, uh,

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Speaker 1: what what is true and what is not true? And

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Speaker 1: what is true is that when it comes to Trump,

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Speaker 1: is that he is not he has not tipped his hand.

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Speaker 1: So you see something in these headlines and so many

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Speaker 1: of these reports about what is happening or what may

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Speaker 1: not be happening. And if you if you read these

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Speaker 1: stories or listen to them on the news, and they

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Speaker 1: know they're going to talk about some senior administration official

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Speaker 1: or someone who is who is leaking, or someone who

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Speaker 1: is you know, not authorized to give their name, or

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Speaker 1: a source talking to the New York Times. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you gotta take that with a grain of salt, because

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Speaker 1: Trump is been pretty adamant and he's been very consistent

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Speaker 1: that when it comes to whatever decisions he's going to make,

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Speaker 1: actually as it pertains to the prosecution of this war,

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Speaker 1: he is not going to share that with an abundant

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Speaker 1: number of Congress people. He is not going to share

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Speaker 1: that with CNN or ABC or NBC or anyone else.

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Speaker 1: The New York Times, the Washington Post, Yeah, they would

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Speaker 1: love to know every move that Trump is going to make,

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Speaker 1: but that's not the way he's done it. And he

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Speaker 1: has been very consistent about that. So I think we

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Speaker 1: can all be grateful for that tough night for the

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Speaker 1: Dayton Flyers falling in Dayton to Illinois State sixty one

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Speaker 1: to fifty five. So the season comes to an end

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Speaker 1: for Dayton and the NIT and that on your home

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Speaker 1: floor too. That's rough, very rough, nine to fifty five.

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Speaker 1: You got to get to a break. This is the

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Speaker 1: Wednesday Night edition of The Midweek Crisis on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: Right back on the Big One, seven hundred WLW ten

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Speaker 1: oh nine, Dan Carroll till midnight tonight on the Wednesday

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Speaker 1: night edition of The Midweek Crisis. Andrew Harding of the

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Speaker 1: Heritage Foundation is standing by, but want to I want

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Speaker 1: to start this segment with a cut from Caroline Levitt

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Speaker 1: and she was one of the press briefing today and

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Speaker 1: asked about, you know, what's Trump going to do when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Iran and then what these reporters love

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Speaker 1: to know. Here's her response, cut number eight.

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Speaker 5: They have not talks continued. They are productive, as the

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Speaker 5: President said on Monday, and they continue to be. However,

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Speaker 5: I saw a fifteen point plan that was floated in

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Speaker 5: the media. I would caution reporters in this room from

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Speaker 5: reporting about speculative points or speculative plans from anonymous sources.

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Speaker 5: The White House never confirmed that full plan. There are

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Speaker 5: elements of truth to it, but some of the stories

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Speaker 5: I read were not entirely factual. So I am not

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Speaker 5: going to negotiate on behalf of the president here at

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Speaker 5: the What I will tell you is these talks are ongoing.

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Speaker 5: We're not going to get into the nitty gritty details

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Speaker 5: that have been exchanged between the United States and Iran

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Speaker 5: at this time.

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Speaker 1: There you go, there is Caroline Levitt telling the media

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Speaker 1: about how the Trump how Trump is handling things at

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Speaker 1: the White House when it comes laying out his pad

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Speaker 1: and she and look. Trump has said repeatedly he has

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Speaker 1: looked reporters right in the face and he said, why

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Speaker 1: would I tell you? Why would I tell you my plans?

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Speaker 1: And Andrew Harding of the Heritage Foundation, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for being here. So when I look at all

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Speaker 1: these discbred headlines and you see the talking about the

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Speaker 1: fifteen point plan, and then Iraq rejects the fifteen point plan,

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Speaker 1: and then we've got multiple nations that are going to

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Speaker 1: help open the straight of horror moves, and then we've

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Speaker 1: got Iranian boats are laying mines in the Strait of

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Speaker 1: Horror moves and there may be three thousand troops on

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Speaker 1: the way to the Middle East. So here's one that

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Speaker 1: says we may have nine thousand troops on the way

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Speaker 1: to the Middle East. I mean this is I think

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Speaker 1: Trump has been remarkably consistent when it comes to doing

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Speaker 1: what he's going to do, doing it the way he

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Speaker 1: is going to do it, and not telegraphing his moves,

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Speaker 1: especially to our friends over the New York Times.

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Speaker 6: Well, good evening, and I think you're absolutely correct that

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Speaker 6: the President has been very consistent on wanting to maximize

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Speaker 6: his leverage, maximize his options reduced to potential of leeks

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Speaker 6: or exactly, such as a place like the New York Times,

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Speaker 6: but also ensuring that the enemy in this case Iran,

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Speaker 6: is unable to fully expect what's going to.

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Speaker 2: Come their way.

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Speaker 6: And so I think the President, as we've seen over

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Speaker 6: this past week, is really pursuing two major themes. First

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Speaker 6: is the diplomatic theme. Clearly something has changed over the

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Speaker 6: weekend in which the President believes that Iran has been

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Speaker 6: willing to come to the table at a level we

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Speaker 6: haven't seen in this during before even this conflict, and

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Speaker 6: he clearly must think that whoever he's working with, which

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Speaker 6: it's still an open question, but whoever he is working with,

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Speaker 6: their group of leaders he's working with, he thinks that

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Speaker 6: they're actually might be more willing to consider some elements

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Speaker 6: of a fifteen point plan. We'll see what any negotiation

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Speaker 6: leads to. But secondly, he's also taking the military theme

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Speaker 6: here of ensuring that options are put in the theater,

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Speaker 6: and that if he believes the Ronnings aren't negotiating or

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Speaker 6: working at faith, he has the option to deploy that

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Speaker 6: for what he thinks we're best for American national interest.

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Speaker 6: So I think the President is me consistent here and

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Speaker 6: we should expect him to continue this in the days ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen a lot from those who would criticize

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Speaker 1: President Trump, and the criticism now is centering around regime change.

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Speaker 1: And they were talking about, Hey, President Trump said he

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Speaker 1: was all about regime change. Why haven't we had it yet.

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Speaker 1: It seems to me that even though you know, we've

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Speaker 1: been at this for what three maybe going on four

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Speaker 1: weeks now, the whole idea of regime change and that

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Speaker 1: that should have happened already. To me, that seems a

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Speaker 1: little bit premature. I think you're right.

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Speaker 6: I think that the President, while perhaps he's interested in

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Speaker 6: having the regime change and a more favorable regime, his

655
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Speaker 6: primary interest is ensuring that Iran it's not a nuclear threat,

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Speaker 6: is not a ballistic missile threat to the United States,

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Speaker 6: and it is not a regional threat that can project

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Speaker 6: power with its terrorist proxies or its navy. It's air

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Speaker 6: force that can attack the all Israel, but other countries

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Speaker 6: in the Middle East, and US bases and armed service forces.

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Speaker 6: So I think the President wants to see whether it's

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Speaker 6: through this regime, whether it's different leaders. He wants to

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Speaker 6: ensure that there's going to be some type of solution,

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Speaker 6: whether it's through military means as we've been seeing in

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Speaker 6: the past almost a month now, or maybe a diplomatic

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Speaker 6: means that we can see from coming together in the

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Speaker 6: next few days. The President wants some type of solution

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Speaker 6: that puts America in a safer and stronger and ideally

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Speaker 6: more prosperous place that the American people and the region

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Speaker 6: can benefit from. So I think that's his primary motivator.

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Speaker 6: If the regime changes, and I think it's useful in

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Speaker 6: the sense that they're able to to work more better

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Speaker 6: in the United States, but ultimately President Trump wants to

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Speaker 6: put America first, in a safety first.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is your sense of how the leadership is

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Speaker 1: structured right now in Iran? Because I look at these

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Speaker 1: headlines and I see Iran launch as a missile attack

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Speaker 1: on Israel, and so we are seeing that. I guess

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Speaker 1: Iran as being if you want to use the word

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Speaker 1: consistent with them, they're consistent in launching these attacks. I

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Speaker 1: guess they're more of something for show rather than achieving

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Speaker 1: a military objective. But who how is it that those

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Speaker 1: orders get handed down from the leadership in Iraq to

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Speaker 1: whatever elements they have that are able to man and

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Speaker 1: launch these missiles.

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Speaker 6: Well, certainly that starts up top with the Ayatola. With

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Speaker 6: in Iran.

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Speaker 1: We know that the.

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Speaker 6: Previous iatola, of course is taking out during the first

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Speaker 6: day of strikes very impressively, while then now we have

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Speaker 6: the sun I toold how many in the second here?

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Speaker 6: Who is really focused? What we can tell is on

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Speaker 6: his own health Right now we don't actually fully know

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Speaker 6: his current well being, how involved he is, but some

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Speaker 6: reports have come out suggesting that maybe he is communicating

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Speaker 6: through intermediaries but is not directly being made publicly available.

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Speaker 6: But there's stets for a start.

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Speaker 1: Now, then do you think the Sun is alive then,

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Speaker 1: because I mean you've obviously seen the reporting with people

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Speaker 1: speculating that that he you know, was dispatched some time ago.

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Speaker 1: I do think he's alive.

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Speaker 6: I think both the President the Vice president have suggested this.

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Speaker 6: They certainly sounds like he's injured. But I do think

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Speaker 6: he's alive, and I think his through his work there.

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Speaker 6: But what we're seeing is the IRGC is the primary

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Speaker 6: military force in Iran. Goes to your question about how

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Speaker 6: are they still professing operations, Well, first they have the

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Speaker 6: military there, but also they can diversify and keep say

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Speaker 6: the streadup removes that risk with some missiles, while still

710
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Speaker 6: trying to operate throughout the country, So that military force

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Speaker 6: is still a lot and functionings, and that it.

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Speaker 1: Can Carg Island. So much of the speculation is is

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Speaker 1: that we want to seize control of that And is

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Speaker 1: it your thought that if we are able to control

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Speaker 1: what happens on Carg Island, that the United States will

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Speaker 1: have complete control over the straight Hormores.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't say complete control, but I do think it

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Speaker 6: changes the calculus because Carg Island is so critically important

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Speaker 6: to Iran's oil sector, with the roughly eighty to ninety

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Speaker 6: percent of Irani and oil flowing through that island, Certainly

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Speaker 6: it would be extremely hard to take. Obviously, Iran knows

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Speaker 6: that this is a primary target the United States should

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Speaker 6: there be some type of targeted ground operations, so I

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Speaker 6: don't think it would be taken about a fight. Aroan

725
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Speaker 6: would do what it can, but in the event something

726
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Speaker 6: does happen in the US can successfully hold it, it

727
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Speaker 6: will put a massive amount of pressure on the regime

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Speaker 6: with a lack of economic stability, and could really change

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Speaker 6: the domestic situation in Iran. However, for Moose would still

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Speaker 6: be held at risk. The Carg Island is certain further

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Speaker 6: up to the northeast of where the Strait is at

732
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Speaker 6: its narrowest point, so there could still be pressure there

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Speaker 6: and oil prices would most likely still be impacted by

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Speaker 6: such an operation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how is it that there's enough political structure in

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Speaker 1: Iran that they and I saw this headline a day

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Speaker 1: or so ago, that they are talking about exacting a

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Speaker 1: fee of two million dollars for any ship that wants

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Speaker 1: to pass through the Strait, and of course only those

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Speaker 1: ships from nations that they currently favor. So and there's

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Speaker 1: I guess they're still making this bluster that any US

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Speaker 1: flagged or Israel flagged vessel or I guess vessels of

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Speaker 1: some other nations that they don't care for would be

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Speaker 1: would be attacked if they were going through the Strait.

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Speaker 1: How are they in a position to even make make

746
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Speaker 1: a threat like.

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Speaker 6: That, Well, I think they're in a position because they

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Speaker 6: can try to use social media or journalists that are

749
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Speaker 6: willing to publish erans very maximus bold positions on what

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Speaker 6: it's looking for. By no means is a wrong going

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Speaker 6: to be able to be in a position to charge

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Speaker 6: two million dollars or whatever when it comes to a

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Speaker 6: vessel coming through the Strait. I think this is Iran

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Speaker 6: the leadership trying to symbolize and to take a public

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Speaker 6: stance on projecting strengths both internally but also externally. But

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Speaker 6: let's face it, Iran's military is and completely destroyed. That

757
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Speaker 6: doesn't mean it's still It can still be a factor

758
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Speaker 6: in some smaller elements, like with the Strait and with

759
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Speaker 6: having those rockets and drones, but conventionally with its navy

760
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Speaker 6: and air force, it has absolutely been turned upside down

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Speaker 6: with the US Israeli campaign. So Iran may try to posture,

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Speaker 6: maybe to negotiate, but at the end of the day,

763
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Speaker 6: that is not a demand that they can actually enforce

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Speaker 6: at this time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you and I have talked before about how Iran

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Speaker 1: is a big country, roughly the size of Alaska, a

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Speaker 1: lot of mountainous terrain, a lot of places where they

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Speaker 1: can hide assets. I see this headline that nine thousand

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Speaker 1: or Anian targets have been hit so far according to

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Speaker 1: Central Command. Is it conceivable that there's another nine thousand

771
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Speaker 1: targets that are still out there or maybe even more.

772
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Speaker 1: It's possible.

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Speaker 6: I think what we have seen, the fact that we've

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Speaker 6: had nine thousand targets.

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Speaker 2: In one month of strikes is pretty darn good.

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Speaker 6: At some point, you're probably going to be taking out

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Speaker 6: the most high value assets at this time. So I

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Speaker 6: imagine what they're now trying to do is where they

779
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Speaker 6: can continue to identify different factories or industrial products of

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Speaker 6: dual use infrastructure that are supporting the Iranian response, Perhaps

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Speaker 6: they can continue going there. I also would see Israel

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Speaker 6: in particular looking to see if they can conduct any

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Speaker 6: targeted to capitation strikes that they've been very good at

784
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Speaker 6: during this conflict. So another nine thousand, it's possible, remains

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Speaker 6: to be seen. I'm sure some of those targets are

786
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Speaker 6: hidden deep in the mountains to your point, the geography

787
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Speaker 6: and spread across and perhaps maybe more to the east

788
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Speaker 6: of the country to where it is a little harder

789
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Speaker 6: for the US and the ISS to strike eastern on

790
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Speaker 6: the map, with Tehran closer to the western side of

791
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Speaker 6: the country. But I think it can be possible. However,

792
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 6: we've made very good progress and see now the point

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Speaker 6: the pressure so focuses on the street, and perhaps there's

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Speaker 6: any additional command and control structures within Tehran or in

795
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Speaker 6: those surrounding areas, not to mention energy infrastructure, which the

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Speaker 6: President has made clear he hasn't gone after yet, but

797
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Speaker 6: he very much can if he so chooses to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember reading in the in the earliest days

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Speaker 1: of this that that Israel was preparing to mount a

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Speaker 1: ground operation. Has to your knowledge, has that happened. That

801
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Speaker 1: does Israel have troops on the ground now that that

802
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Speaker 1: are operating inside the inside Iran.

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Speaker 2: At least not overtly to my knowledge.

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Speaker 6: I know there's certainly been a lot of talk now

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Speaker 6: about a US ground operation and marines going into theater,

806
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Speaker 6: but to my knowledge, we have not seen any Israeli

807
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Speaker 6: armed forces conducting a ground operation. Now I would be

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Speaker 6: surprised that they have different intelligence assets within Iran that

809
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Speaker 6: they're covertly activating and working with, but we've yet to

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Speaker 6: see that large scale or even a targeted operation from

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Speaker 6: the ground just yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Another headline is the and then this was posted

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Speaker 1: by my friends over at the Western Journal, which is

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Speaker 1: a website that I favor, and I think they do

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Speaker 1: good work over there. But when I see this headline

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Speaker 1: Pentagon preparing to send three thousand airborne troops to the

817
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Speaker 1: Middle East, there may be some truth to that, But

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Speaker 1: I go back to the sound bite that we played

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Speaker 1: at the at the top of this interview of Caroline

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Speaker 1: Levitt and essentially saying that you know, the president is

821
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Speaker 1: not going to announce ahead of time his plans for

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Speaker 1: whatever military operations are going to happen with respect to Iran.

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Speaker 1: So I'm a little bit dubious when I see a

824
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Speaker 1: headline like this, and and what's your take when and

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Speaker 1: because that was. It seems to me that the major

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Speaker 1: networks were all fretting last week that we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: ground troops in there. We've got marines going in, we've

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Speaker 1: got airborne going in, and they were all thretting that possibility.

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Speaker 1: But again, if rhetoric is one thing, actions are another thing,

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Speaker 1: and I haven't seen action that backs up that rhetoric.

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Speaker 3: You're right.

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Speaker 6: I think the Press Secretary is correct in saying that

833
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Speaker 6: at the end of the day, the President does not

834
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Speaker 6: want to disclose as plans. I think that makes a

835
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Speaker 6: lot of sense. Certainly in my time of serving the

836
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Speaker 6: White House and the Nation Security Council last year, you

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Speaker 6: don't want to give your adversaries any information of what

838
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Speaker 6: your next move may be. So I think the President

839
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Speaker 6: is right to look at its options to ensure again

840
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Speaker 6: whatever moves he is taking is going to prioritize American

841
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Speaker 6: security and safety, and whether that's again looking at a

842
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 6: diplomatic solution. I think everyone wants the conflict to come

843
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Speaker 6: to some type of end, but we absolutely want to

844
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Speaker 6: make sure it ends as favorable on American terms, And

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Speaker 6: if diplomacy is not there, then I think as we've

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Speaker 6: seen over the last month, and as we can see

847
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Speaker 6: in the next few weeks to see, the President believes

848
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Speaker 6: that additional mility options are the best way to go.

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Speaker 6: So I think perhaps over this weekend, I think we'll

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Speaker 6: have a better sense pieces are coming together. At the

851
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Speaker 6: end of the five day pause of the President has

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Speaker 6: mentioned about energy infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: Around that time is.

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Speaker 6: When we'll see the Marine Expeditionary Unit from into Paycom

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Speaker 6: come into Central Command.

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Speaker 2: So maybe around that.

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Speaker 6: Time this gives the US the needed time to get

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Speaker 6: things in position. But I think over this weekend we'll

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Speaker 6: get a better sense if diplomacy can actually reach a

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Speaker 6: legitimate breakthrough that the President is happy with, or if

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Speaker 6: you believe that additional military operations are necessary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, when it comes to negotiations, I see a

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Speaker 1: lot of headlines about Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner being

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Speaker 1: involved in these negotiations. I have to imagine that Marco

865
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Speaker 1: Rubio is playing a major role in this, But I

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Speaker 1: don't see really any reporting on Marco Rubio as it

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Speaker 1: relates to what's happening and round.

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Speaker 6: I would agree with you. I'm sure the Vice President

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Speaker 6: is also involved in this. I seen a couple of

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Speaker 6: reports as the kind of the initial reports we're breaking

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Speaker 6: out of some potential diplomatic progress, of a potential interest

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Speaker 6: in senior administration officials potentially working with Pakistan and doing

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Speaker 6: some type of form with Pakistan, mediating with different officials.

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Speaker 6: I think that is that those conversations are happening. Certainly,

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Speaker 6: if the President is being briefed on these conversations, I

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Speaker 6: would assume and believe that the Vice President and the

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Speaker 6: Secretary of State, you're involved. And even if the Secretary

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Speaker 6: of State isn't saying maybe as involved with the media

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Speaker 6: or maybe has been talking in direct negotiations, well, I

880
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Speaker 6: think certainly he's with the twenty jobs he has these days.

881
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Speaker 6: I'm sure he has a bunch of things that he's

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Speaker 6: focusing on. But make no mistake, he is very much

883
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Speaker 6: involved in the decision making in the situation room, helping

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Speaker 6: sure the President has as many options the table as

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Speaker 6: possible to make sure the United States is secured while

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Speaker 6: it's a special Enveloyd wid Cough for example, this perhaps

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Speaker 6: this is one of his more identified roles to really

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Speaker 6: focused on this negotiated element and then support the Secretary

889
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Speaker 6: of State and the President and making these decisions, so

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Speaker 6: I'm confident the team is working very well together on this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Marco Ruby of twenty jobs, and he's well equipped

892
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Speaker 1: to handle it, each and every one of them. The

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Speaker 1: is the years of rare breath, Andrew Harding. I always

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Speaker 1: appreciate the insight and the thoughts on this. I think

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Speaker 1: the one thing we can all agree on. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of moving parts on this, and I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: kelping us keep track of all of it.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: All right, Andrew Harding will do it again soon, my friend.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the time we got to get to a

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Speaker 1: break ten twenty five on seven hundred WLW right back

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Speaker 1: on the Big Ones seven hundred WLW ten forty on

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Speaker 1: this Wednesday Night, Wednesday Night edition in the midweek Crisis.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dan Carroll, glad to be here, Glad you are

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Speaker 1: here as well. I want to thank my guest Andrew

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Speaker 1: Harding Heritage Foundation being here and always good to get

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Speaker 1: his insight and his take on what's happening with Operation

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Speaker 1: Epic Fury five three, seven, four, nine, seven, eight hundred.

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Speaker 1: The Big One phone lines are open right now. I

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Speaker 1: love this what Delta did when it comes to members

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Speaker 1: of Congress. They announced that they are suspending their travel

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Speaker 1: perks for members of Congress. Funding for the Department of

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Speaker 1: Homeland Security ran out last month a Senate stalemate of

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Speaker 1: refunding for Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Even though they had

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Speaker 1: the ICE ICE portion of Homeland Security is already funded,

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Speaker 1: so ICE agents are out there, they're getting funded. Delta

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Speaker 1: said that members of Congress will now be treated like

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Speaker 1: every other passenger until the shutdown is over. That is outstanding.

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Speaker 1: I don't know one person who disagrees with that. Remember

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Speaker 1: think about that, all these members of Congress, they think

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Speaker 1: they are so special, and Delta is putting it out here,

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Speaker 1: right in the right and the right here, the members

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Speaker 1: of Congress do get special treatment from Delta. Due to

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Speaker 1: the impact on resources from the long standing government shutdown,

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Speaker 1: Delta will temporarily suspend specialty services to members of Congress

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Speaker 1: flying Delta. Next to safety, Delta's number one priority is

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Speaker 1: taking care of our people and customers, which has become

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Speaker 1: increasingly difficult in the current environment. Congress members will sell

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Speaker 1: have access to the Capital Desk, which helps members book

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Speaker 1: trips at government rates, make last minute changes, reserve seats

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Speaker 1: on multiple flights. The same day, multiple flights the same day,

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Speaker 1: so they still get they still get some special treatment.

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Speaker 1: But maybe they shouldn't say they'll be treated just like

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Speaker 1: everyone else, maybe just a little bit closer like everyone else,

935
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Speaker 1: which again is not going to sit well with a

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Speaker 1: lot of the members of Congress, especially the ones that

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Speaker 1: represent this part of the country, or or well anywhere

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Speaker 1: for that matter. You know, maybe the ones who fly

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Speaker 1: private aren't going to be upset about that. Ken from Mason,

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Speaker 1: what you got tonight?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 7: Dan?

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Speaker 3: How are you doing tonight?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good Man, living a dream being here on

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to start off and pick on your radio station, Dan.

948
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Speaker 3: Hour and a half ago, your news guy came out

949
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Speaker 3: and said that fifty nine percent of the people in

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Speaker 3: the country proposed to the way Trump is conducting the war,

951
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Speaker 3: and only thirty percent of prove that's part of this

952
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 3: constant propaganda. I'd like them to prove that, because.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of propaganda out there. I don't know

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Speaker 1: there's and look, I've seen I don't know a half

955
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Speaker 1: a dozen different poles on this and they and they

956
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Speaker 1: were actually talking about this today on the five and

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Speaker 1: uh you know, I don't know, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: poll that is. I don't know where it was. It

959
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 1: might have been a Quinn piac Pole but uh, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think the number is that low.

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Speaker 3: My Dan, It's obviously that's a lie, you know, this

962
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Speaker 3: whole thing. You know, yesterday I heard a lady waiting

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Speaker 3: at the airport. You're just talking about the airport situation,

964
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Speaker 3: and she was worried about ICE agents beating people up

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Speaker 3: at airports.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and why was she Why was she worried about

967
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Speaker 1: that because she might have heard that on the news.

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Speaker 1: She might have heard that from some members of Congress

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Speaker 1: who were on the news saying that ICE agents are

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Speaker 1: going to go in there and maybe even shoot and

971
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Speaker 1: kill people at the airport, because you know, that's what

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Speaker 1: I does.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's alarming, Dan, And the fact that people are

974
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Speaker 3: starting to believe the bull crap, I mean, that's what's

975
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Speaker 3: that's what's troubling. People are actually starting to believe that

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Speaker 3: and that you know, I hope people heard the Chicago

977
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Speaker 3: older woman that you know, blame the girl that got

978
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Speaker 3: shut in the back of the head running away from

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Speaker 3: you know, a three time convicted Sellon from Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, actually, yeah, her name is her. The the older

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Speaker 1: woman's name is Maria Hadden, and she was talking about

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Speaker 1: this eighteen year old girl who was said, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: wrong place, wrong time. In fact, I have that sound bite,

984
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Speaker 1: and Joe Waldell, if you could please can we hear

985
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 1: cut number one all the time?

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Speaker 3: Right?

987
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Speaker 8: And they go out and look here they walk around

988
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 8: so that the kids are out doing normal, normal things

989
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Speaker 8: people do in the neighborhood. And it sounds like this

990
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Speaker 8: might have been a wrong place, wrong time, running into

991
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Speaker 8: a person who had a gun. They might have startled

992
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Speaker 8: this person here unintentionally.

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Speaker 1: Oh they yeah. See, you know, the guy's an illegal immigrant,

994
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: has committed crimes before, should not be in possession of

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Speaker 1: a firearm. But yet somehow it's her fault because I mean,

996
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Speaker 1: she was walking on a pier and everyone knows. You know,

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Speaker 1: I guess at certain times of the day you're not

998
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing that. Never mind, you know, normally

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00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: I think this sounds like a woman who would be

1000
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Speaker 1: calling for gun control, but I don't hear any any

1001
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: such calls in the wake of this incident.

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Speaker 3: Well, Dan, I'm still trying to put two plus two

1003
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 3: together on this situation because the girl was running away

1004
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Speaker 3: from the felon, Yes, and he shot on the back

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Speaker 3: of the head.

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Speaker 1: He was startled. Maybe he was startled that she was

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Speaker 1: running away. I don't know.

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00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 3: Well, I want to hear the whole story. I want

1009
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 3: to know what the truth the only thing story.

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00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: The only thing I do know is that the blood

1011
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: is on the hands of J. D. Pritzker, the governor

1012
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: of Illinois. The blood is all on the hand of

1013
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: the that clown of a mayor whose name escapes me

1014
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: at the moment in Chicago. The blood is on the

1015
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: hands of any politician who thinks that sanctuary cities are

1016
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: a good idea.

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Speaker 3: Well, in this kid, Dan is the twenty fourth girl

1018
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 3: and the last year alone murdered by illegal aliens, the

1019
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 3: twenty fourth girl. I mean, people need to understand how

1020
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 3: serious this is. The Republican Party, Dan has got to

1021
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 3: start fighting, you know, this propaganda they started. They got

1022
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 3: to start putting the truth out there. Donald Trump needs

1023
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 3: some whole more national, you know, talks with the American

1024
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 3: people to let them know exactly the lies the Democrats

1025
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 3: are telling. We have to confront them head on. You know,

1026
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 3: this is getting crazy, you know.

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00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's no, you know, it's it's completely out of control.

1028
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, you know this guy, Yeah, Prinz Gerre

1029
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: is one. Brandon Johnson is the is the mayor of

1030
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Speaker 1: uh of Chicago. Yeah, this happened on Friday. Jose Medina.

1031
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: Medina is now charged with first degree murder. Maybe they

1032
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: they'll let him out of prison before the before ice

1033
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 1: comes to uh to pick him up. But yeah, she's

1034
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Speaker 1: eighteen years old, oyal university freshman, about one am Thursday, uh,

1035
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Speaker 1: near Chicago's Roger Park neighborhood. And uh yeah this uh

1036
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Speaker 1: you know, this dude just just open fire and uh

1037
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Speaker 1: and shot her dead.

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Speaker 3: And there's reported situations Dan where some of these illegal

1039
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 3: immigrants have been released out of Joe arrested and released

1040
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: over thirty times.

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00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's like the one that it's like the

1042
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Speaker 1: one that happened in Virginia a couple of weeks ago.

1043
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Speaker 1: Dude had been arrested multiple times and for violent felonies,

1044
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: and he's out on the streets and he stabs a

1045
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Speaker 1: woman to death at a bus stop in Virginia. And

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Speaker 1: Abigail Spanberger is all about being a sanctuary, you know,

1047
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: sanctuary states and sanctuary cities, and sanctuary is this, and

1048
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: sanctuary of that that they don't care, they don't care

1049
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: about about the human carnage that that is left in

1050
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: the wake of all of us.

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01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 3: Well, damn. People need to understand why they're doing this.

1052
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 3: The biggest reason is the census, because they can put

1053
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 3: more people in Congress. They count every illegal alien in

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Speaker 3: this country to the number of you know, representatives each

1055
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 3: state gets. People need to understand that they're using these

1056
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 3: illegal citizens to get more people in the House so

1057
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 3: they can keep control and maintain power. That's why they're

1058
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 3: doing They're doing it for the votes, first of all,

1059
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 3: and secondly, you know, to keep more representatives in Congress.

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Speaker 1: It's all power. It's all about the agenda. Those things

1061
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: are more important than anything else. And if there's you know,

1062
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: innocent Americans who get murdered and maimed and have their

1063
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: lives ruined along the way, while that's just collateral damage,

1064
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: all in pursuit of the almighty agenda.

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Speaker 3: You know, we, like I said, the Republican Party has

1066
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 3: got to start attacking the propaganda that what they're trying

1067
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Speaker 3: to do to destroy the country. You know, Dan as

1068
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 3: you've known too There's millions and millions and millions of uninformed,

1069
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 3: naive Americans that believe everything they hear on the news.

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Speaker 3: They believe every word. I mean, people still believe Donald

1071
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 3: Trump colluded with the Russians. Hillary Clinton should be either

1072
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 3: dead or in jail for the rest of her life

1073
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 3: for treason. We actually know that she colluded with the Russians.

1074
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 3: We actually know everything they did on Trump was completely

1075
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 3: made up phony. No. I.

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Speaker 1: I had a caller last week who tried to talk

1077
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Speaker 1: about Trump was guilty of colluding with the Russians. Didn't

1078
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: didn't believe that all that had been debunked, didn't believe

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Speaker 1: that all that was fake and phony. I thought that

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Speaker 1: all that reporting was true. And and then I told him,

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01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: you know where to go look it up and go

1082
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Speaker 1: find the truth on that, and uh, he sort of

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Speaker 1: slinked away, and it hasn't gotten back to me yet.

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Speaker 3: Well, Dan, that's what I'm saying. We've got people like

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Speaker 3: that that believe this garbage. They are so naive and

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Speaker 3: so uninformed and so uneducated. They believe that garbagees people

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Speaker 3: tell them, you know, and the Democrats know that. That's

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Speaker 3: how evil they are. People need to understand These people

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Speaker 3: are evil. They are evil, you know, and we're finding

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Speaker 3: the fraud in California. Dan, you know, Dan, I've been

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Speaker 3: telling you for two years now. The Sinaloa Cartel is

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Speaker 3: running California and Bert they're behind this Master of Father.

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Speaker 3: Looks like the fraud in California is one hundred times

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Speaker 3: bigger than this in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Might be, yeah, it might be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's massive. And these people need to understand the

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Speaker 3: Democratic Party are connors, their liars and their thiefs. You know,

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Speaker 3: their whole party is based on lives, It's based on stealing,

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Speaker 3: you know. In all this situation California has been going

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Speaker 3: on the last fifteen years is the Cineli Cartel. People

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Speaker 3: need to start understanding that these people, the cartels, you know,

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Speaker 3: are into Mexico, are from Mexico or in now to

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Speaker 3: New Mexico. They're into Arizona and they keep working bit

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Speaker 3: by bit to take more away. I mean, they're starting

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Speaker 3: to think that Savannah Gutrie's mother was probably involved with

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Speaker 3: the Cinelia cartel with the kidnapping, you know, and you know,

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Speaker 3: God rest her soul.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know in Los Angeles, in Los Angeles, they're

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Speaker 1: they're putting homeless people up now in brand new apartments,

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Speaker 1: and those apartments cost taxpayers one one million dollars per room,

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Speaker 1: one million dollars per homeless person. Is how this they've

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Speaker 1: got the the twenty room Holloway Motel was bought and

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Speaker 1: overhauled so they could house homeless people there for twenty

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Speaker 1: two million dollars and so that comes out to one

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Speaker 1: point zero five million dollars per unit. So when it

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Speaker 1: comes to housing the homeless, and how can Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: possibly us sustain that a million dollars per homeless person? Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: And it's all done for power, it's done for votes,

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Speaker 3: and it's done to have more representatives, you know, all

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Speaker 3: of it. People need to understand. That's exactly. It's it's

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01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 3: not hard to figure out why they let twenty million

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Speaker 3: illegal aliens in and in that twenty million, there's probably

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Speaker 3: you know, a thousand in Iranian sleeper cells that are involved,

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Speaker 3: and those people not to mention all the other troubles

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Speaker 3: that are involved. The Democrats don't care, Dan, You're right there,

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Speaker 3: that's a death culture now. They don't care about the

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Speaker 3: casualties involved. It's power. Marxists want power. They don't care

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Speaker 3: how they gain power. All you have to do is

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Speaker 3: go back through history the last five hundred years. You

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01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 3: can see what they're all about.

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Speaker 1: And the midterm elections that are coming up. God help us,

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Speaker 1: God help us. If the Democrats back in control of

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Speaker 1: the House in the Senate got the.

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Speaker 3: Republican Party has got to wake up and they've got

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Speaker 3: to start attacking it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Ken, we got a run. I appreciate the

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Speaker 1: phone call has always.

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Speaker 3: Been all right, Dan, have a good one, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Ken and Mason, thank you very much for that.

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Speaker 1: We got to get to a break little news coming

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Speaker 1: up the top of the hour, and your phone calls

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Speaker 1: between eleven and midnight as well. So we here on

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Speaker 1: the Wednesday night edition of The Midweek Crisis on seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW right back on the Big one, seven hundred

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01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: WLW ten O nine Dan Carroll till midnight tonight, the

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01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: Wednesday night edition of the Midweek Crisis. You get to

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Speaker 1: do it again tomorrow night after the Reds game. So

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. I was talking with my

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Speaker 1: buddy Gary Klick, state Representative, and I was talking with

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Speaker 1: him before the went on air tonight, and he went

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Speaker 1: along with Josh Williams, who was just a great representative

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Speaker 1: from Sylvania Township in Ohio. They have introduced something here

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Speaker 1: in Ohio called the Affirming Families First Act, which aims

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Speaker 1: to clarify parental rights and limit gender identity screening in

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Speaker 1: Ohio's child welfare system. Gary Klick says it is unconscionable

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Speaker 1: to think that local government entities would flag a parent

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01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: as being a danger to their son for declining to

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Speaker 1: buy him, address or call him her. The legislation is

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Speaker 1: about protecting families from government overreach and ensuring parents are

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Speaker 1: not punished for raising their children consistent with biological reality.

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01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: No parents should lose custody, face intervention, or be deemed

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Speaker 1: unfit simply for affirming a child sex, said Representative Williams.

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Speaker 1: The Affirming Families First Act resource common sense to our

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Speaker 1: child welfare, family and law system by making it clear

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Speaker 1: that affirming biological sex is not abuse, neglect, or contrary

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Speaker 1: to a child's best interest. It's a protected parental right.

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Speaker 1: So this bill here in Ohio, which it is just

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01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: beyond ridiculous to me that we need such legislation here

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Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio. And Gary Klick has already

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Speaker 1: done great work when it comes to protecting kids from

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Speaker 1: mutilation at the hands of those who would seek to

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Speaker 1: do gender affirming surgery or give them cross sex home

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01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,759
Speaker 1: hormones or puberty blockers or any of the other powerful

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Speaker 1: drugs that these kids are subjected to. It is absolute barbarous.

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Speaker 1: But apparently families still need to be protected from having

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Speaker 1: their kids taken away if they don't play along with

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Speaker 1: with this sickness. The Affirming Families First Act would clarify

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Speaker 1: that it is not abusive for parents or guardians to

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Speaker 1: affirm a child's sex rather than perceived gender identity. This

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Speaker 1: legislation would prohibit the following prohibit a parent's affirmation of

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Speaker 1: a child's biological sex from constituting the basis to restrict

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Speaker 1: access to the child, deny the child's return, limit decision

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Speaker 1: making authority over the child's physical or mental health, investigating

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01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: a report or of abuse or child neglect if the

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Speaker 1: sole basis for that report is the parent or guardian's

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Speaker 1: affirmation of the child's biological sex. And this is a

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Speaker 1: There are government entities out there that want to do

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Speaker 1: this sort of thing. They want to take kids away

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Speaker 1: from parents as parents refuse to go along with this

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Speaker 1: notion that a boy should be a girl or a

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Speaker 1: girl should be a boy. And in Kyahoga County this

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Speaker 1: was going on within the Division of Children Family Services.

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Speaker 1: They created a database tracking the sexual orientation, transgender identity

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Speaker 1: pronouns of children that interacted with the welfare system in

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Speaker 1: Cuyahoga County. And they were doing this in concert with

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Speaker 1: the Biden Harris administration. Is beyond sick. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: really is sick. And if you've listened to me on

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Speaker 1: this radio show for the last several years, you know

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Speaker 1: we've been way ahead of the curve on this issue.

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Speaker 1: This is something I've been talking about for a long

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01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: long time, and to my way of thinking, the end

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01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 1: is in sight here. And to that end, there was

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01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: a great piece written an American thinker about this called

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Speaker 1: the Twilight of the Chanda the Transgenders, written by Armando Assignon,

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Speaker 1: and Armanda writes, the transgender media seems to be winding down.

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Speaker 1: While the Trump administration can claim some credit for this,

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01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is it was beginning to

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01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:31,839
Speaker 1: decrease even during the Biden administration, despite the Democrats' desperate

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01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: efforts to continue promoting the sexual mutilation of children. In

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Speaker 1: recent years, the glamorizing and promotion of transgenders was undercut

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01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: by several items. First, de transitioners persons who changed genders

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01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 1: thereby being mutilated in the process, whereupon they realized that

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01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,839
Speaker 1: they had made a horrible mistake. They tried to inform

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Speaker 1: the public of the mistake of transitioning. They also spotlighted

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01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: the malpractice. Additionally, the UK's cast Review, which we talked

1216
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: about extensively on this show, followed by others, revealed that

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Speaker 1: the ascertations made by some professionals about becoming transgender had

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Speaker 1: no scientific basis, contrary to what had been claimed. Third,

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Speaker 1: several studies showed that those individuals voicing gender dysphoria had

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Speaker 1: psychological comorbidities aside from the transgender issue. They were mentally ill. Fourth,

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Speaker 1: the revelations about WPATH, the World Professional Association for Transgender Health,

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Speaker 1: the foremost agency besides a Democrat party in promoting the

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Speaker 1: mutilation of children, showed that the staff were basically ghoules. Lastly,

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01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: and more importantly, lawsuits have been found child It may

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Speaker 1: be remembered that it was successful lawsuits that ended the

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Speaker 1: recovered memory scandal. Mentally ill individuals would go to a

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Speaker 1: feminist therapy who helped the client recover dormant memories, wherein

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01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: it was revealed the client had been raped as a

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Speaker 1: child by the father, the uncle, the mailman, the doctor,

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01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: the next door neighbor, the local football team, space aliens, etc. Etc.

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Speaker 1: Remember when all that was going on, all these recovered memories.

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Speaker 1: Despite these events, the supports of transitioning doubled down. The

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Speaker 1: media kept promoting transgenders while censoring the negative aspects such

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Speaker 1: as the transgender identity of some crimes, including mass killings.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats transformed the transgender mania into a political dogma,

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Speaker 1: and psychopathic teachers and schools, including the school boards detected

1237
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: and promoted this transgender mania, all Democrats, by the way.

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Speaker 1: So the studies have been done and it looks like

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01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: that this whole notion of kids becoming transgender is on

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01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: the way down. And it turns out there's even more

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01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: evidence to that. Chris Bray writes in the in the

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Speaker 1: Federalist transing kids a dying trend, and it writes the

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01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,839
Speaker 1: fight will end because the math doesn't work. The social

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01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: contagion is losing momentum. We're having a deeply unfortunate political

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01:14:56,200 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: battle over transgender medical procedures for minors. Mutilation is a

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Speaker 1: thing that's up for debate. In the opening days of

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Speaker 1: this second term, President Trump declared it is the policy

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01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:13,879
Speaker 1: of the United States that it will not fund, sponsor promote, assist,

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01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 1: or support or support the so called transition of a

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01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:24,839
Speaker 1: child from one sex to another. It will rigorously enforce

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01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 1: all laws that prohibit or libynthies destructive and life altering procedures.

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Speaker 1: A series of regulatory acts followed, with the Department of

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Speaker 1: Health and Human Services declaring the medical standards for pediatric

1254
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:42,560
Speaker 1: sex change procedures are unsupported by the weight of evidence.

1255
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 1: Democrats struck back, asking the courts to protect sex change

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01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 1: treatments for children. While the California legislature is currently advancing

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01:15:55,720 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 1: a series of bills to promote and support transgender identity

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Speaker 1: among miners, there's just one group of people who are

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Speaker 1: increasingly uninterested in pushing for more trans kids, and that

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01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: is the trans kids themselves. And so in California, there

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01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 1: is a hearing on this notion of advancing this series

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Speaker 1: of bills to promote and support transgender identity among miners,

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Speaker 1: and one of the witnesses who testified was a young

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01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 1: person who was now a D transitioner. And this person's

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Speaker 1: name is Jonie, and I want you to and some

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01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: of this testimony is difficult to listen to, but this

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01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: was a courageous thing for Joni or Johnny to do

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01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: and tell his story before these California awmakers. Again, this

1269
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: is some very raw and disturbing testimony here, but this

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01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: is what a lot of kids who got caught up

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Speaker 1: in this are dealing with today. And so listen to

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Speaker 1: cut number three. Joe wad ellis here cutting with three.

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Speaker 7: Please on behalf of our duty. I oppose AB eighteen

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Speaker 7: seventy six. I'm Johnny Skinner, a D transitioner, and I

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01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 7: was a gay kid who was harmed by so called

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01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,759
Speaker 7: gender affirming care. I was a very feminine boy. Everyone

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01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 7: around me made it clear that that was not okay.

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01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 7: I was called slurs, males mocked me. From the time

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01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,719
Speaker 7: I was five, I knew I was different and didn't

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01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,719
Speaker 7: like it. I just wanted to be normal and loved.

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01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 7: When I was twelve, I found trans influencers online who

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01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 7: looked like me as kids. They said, change your body

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01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 7: and your life gets better, and I thought that's my

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01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,600
Speaker 7: way out. At thirteen, My doctors told my mom she

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01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 7: had a daughter, not a son. He told her sixty

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Speaker 7: percent of trans kids kill themselves if they don't undergo

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Speaker 7: sex rejecting interventions. That wasn't true, but my mom loved

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Speaker 7: me and followed the doctor's advice. The doctor told me

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Speaker 7: I was too feminine to find love as a man,

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Speaker 7: and that gay men don't want someone like me. That

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Speaker 7: I needed to change my body if I wanted to

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Speaker 7: find a husband. I was put on estrogen and blockers

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Speaker 7: at the age of thirteen, and my body fell apart

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Speaker 7: nippo leakage, brain fog, chest pain, depression. I was urinating

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Speaker 7: blood and had ulcers at my bladder and was too

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Speaker 7: weak to attend school. When I told my doctor how

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Speaker 7: sick I was, he looked at me and said, welcome

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Speaker 7: to womanhood. What they were doing has a name. It's

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Speaker 7: called transing the gay away, and there's nothing wrong with

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Speaker 7: being gay. This bill forces insurance companies to fund this

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01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 7: cruel homophobia. It continues the lie that some children are

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Speaker 7: born in the wrong body.

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Speaker 1: Vote no. So there's the testimony from Johnny asking those

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Speaker 1: lawmakers to vote no on continuing these barbaric practices. On

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01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: these kids who are not equipped to make these decisions.

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01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: And listen to the testimony that this young person gave.

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01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 1: It is like reading from the textbook found a transitioner

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01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 1: advocate online. His parents were told that if you don't

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01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 1: do this, they'll commit suicide. It was put on puberty blockers,

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01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: was put on the cross sex hormones, had surgery thirteen

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Speaker 1: years old. At thirteen years old, And his story is

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01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 1: not unique every lie that we have documented time and

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01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: time and time again over the last three or four

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Speaker 1: years on this show. That kid lived every single one

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Speaker 1: of them, and so did his or her family, and

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Speaker 1: so did hundreds and thousands of other kids across the country.

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Speaker 1: And anyone with any common sense at all knows that

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Speaker 1: this is wrong in the most profound way possible. And

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Speaker 1: so when I see a headline, a couple of headlines like,

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Speaker 1: you know, this whole notion of trans kids and the

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01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 1: twilight of the trans agenda, this is a good thing.

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01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 1: This is light at the end of the tunnel. But

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Speaker 1: is my My buddy Gary Klick told me earlier tonight

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Speaker 1: that he's just dumbfounded that the type of legislation that

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01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: he's talking about here in Ohio is still necessary because

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Speaker 1: there are still those who and make no mistake, a

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Speaker 1: large part of this, a large part of this is

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Speaker 1: about individuals who want to usurp the power of parental control,

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01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 1: parental rights. They want to take that away from people,

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Speaker 1: and so his bill is about protecting those parental rights.

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01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 1: But the very idea that we would need a law

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Speaker 1: that protects parents who refuse to go along with such

1333
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,839
Speaker 1: nonsense and such lies will somehow be penalized by losing

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Speaker 1: their kids. It is. It is just an absolute tragedy

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01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: that we need legislation that does such a thing. Eleven

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Speaker 1: twenty five. You got to get to a break and

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Speaker 1: we'll open up the phone lines while they're open now.

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Speaker 1: Five one, three, seven, four nine, seven, eight hundred the

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Speaker 1: Big One. As we head until midnight tonight on seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WW seven hundred WLW ten thirty nine. This is

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Speaker 1: the Wednesday night edition of the Midweek Crisis. I'm Dan

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Speaker 1: Carol five three seven seven ndred the Big One. Now.

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Speaker 1: Even though the it looks like we're almost in the

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01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 1: twilight of all this transgender nuttiness, there are still some

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01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: places where they are living out the ridiculousness of these

1346
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: uh just the way certain places want to bend over backwards.

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01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: And in Maryland today there was a debate going on

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01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: over tampons in men's restrooms, and it sounded like this

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01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:13,560
Speaker 1: cut number.

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Speaker 9: Four menstrual hygiene products means appropriately sized tampons. What are

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01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:24,679
Speaker 9: appropriately sized tampons? I've never heard of such a thing.

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01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:26,480
Speaker 9: What do you consider appropriate?

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01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 10: It just means that tampons are offered. There are no

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01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 10: specific size.

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01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 9: Well, apparently there's four different sizes. So which one would

1356
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 9: you like them to use?

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01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 10: Just a regular sized tampon in the bathroom?

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01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 9: Okay, maybe it should say that and not appropriately sized tampon?

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01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 9: Now is this going in all bathrooms? Men's and women's, Yes,

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01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 9: men's and women. How about the Ravens Stadium?

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Speaker 10: If it is a a state owned building, then yes

1362
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 10: it would go in it's a public building.

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Speaker 9: Oriole Park.

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Speaker 10: Well, if it applies to the Ravens Stadium, it would

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01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 10: also apply to Oriole's Park.

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Speaker 9: I guess, pimla coo.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. If you are going to attend

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01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: the Bengals Ravens game this upcoming football season, maybe you're

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01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, if the Red's playing in Baltimore at

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01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: Oriole Park, maybe they have a road game there, You'll

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Speaker 1: be glad to know that you'll have the appropriate sized

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01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 1: tampon available in the men's restroom thanks to the state

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01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 1: lawmakers in Maryland, Rex in Indiana. That's a good thing

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Speaker 1: to know, isn't it. You're gonna be on the road.

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Speaker 11: That's really good to know. But I'm wondering, what are

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01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 11: they going to do with these stamponds or are they

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Speaker 11: going to ensure them.

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Speaker 1: That well, you know what they These are the people

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01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: making the laws. They know better than you and I,

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01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess that's yeah.

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Speaker 11: I got something I've been wondering about. I've been considering

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01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 11: this for a long time. I don't understand why the

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01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 11: ranking members of Congress as both House and Senate can't

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01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 11: get together on a petition and follow it through the

1385
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 11: Supreme Court to get emotion to get all these illegals

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01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 11: in sanctuary cities, sanctuary jails, sanctuary everything released immediately to

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01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 11: the Federal Law Enforcement better known as ICE if the

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Speaker 11: Supreme Court orders it.

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Speaker 2: They ordered.

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Speaker 11: They had an order about six months ago. I remember

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01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 11: it very well. I don't know who filed it, but

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Speaker 11: the Supreme Court come down with an order that any

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01:25:56,000 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 11: little court judge wasn't didn't have the power to interfere

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01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 11: with the executive branch, and that's all they've been doing

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01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 11: and getting buy with. I don't understand that it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's all these federal judges out there,

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Speaker 1: and look, I'm not an expert on the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: so I don't know that I really have an answer

1399
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Speaker 1: to your question. But there have been so many federal

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01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: judges out there who think that the United States ought

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01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 1: to operate under the way they think it, you know,

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01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: to according to the way they see fit. And if

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01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: they don't like the way that Trump is doing things,

1404
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: well then they'll feel free to step in and issue

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01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 1: some sort of court order that makes him stop doing

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01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: what he thinks is best. And it's it's completely out

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01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: of control, you know. I saw a graphic last week,

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Speaker 1: I believe it was, and it was talking about the

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Speaker 1: number of federal injunctions or injunctions ordered by federal judges

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01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 1: against presidential administrations, and it went on, you know, went

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01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: back to the time of Bill Clinton and George Bush

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01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: or I think even the Bush the elder, both the Bushes, Clinton, Obama,

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01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: and Joe Biden. And the number was I don't know,

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01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: like total for all these guys was you know, forty

1415
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 1: nine or something like that. And then for Trump in

1416
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 1: this in this second term, the number it was in

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01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 1: like three hundred. I mean, it was ridiculous the number that.

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01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you've got all these federal judges out

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01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 1: there that are completely out of control and just the

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01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 1: thinks that the way they see fit ought to be

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01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 1: the way, and it should be the you know, it

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01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 1: doesn't matter that we elected this guy to be the president.

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01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: So it's it's completely out of control. But when it

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01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:51,719
Speaker 1: comes to illegal aliens, it just the whole the whole

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01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:55,520
Speaker 1: thing gets messed up because we constantly hear about immigrants

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01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 1: and immigration and all the rest of it. Totally different thing.

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01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: American people are not opposed to legal immigration. When it

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01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 1: comes to illegals and what they do, we don't like

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01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 1: that at all. Raphael and bond Hill, how are you tonight?

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01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 12: Doing pretty well? Dan?

1431
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 3: How are you doing? Bro?

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01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 1: You're ready for Opening Day? You're fired up about the

1433
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six campaign.

1434
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 3: Kind of lukewarm.

1435
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 12: I think the Rids will probably have a better pitching

1436
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 12: corps this year well, which is sadly neat.

1437
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 1: I mean Hunter Green's going to miss half the season

1438
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 1: you've got with the blister on his finger? That was

1439
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 1: what last year that was? I think they said he

1440
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 1: missed twenty games or twenty four games, something like that.

1441
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 1: I mean, can we right, can we afford.

1442
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 12: To have.

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01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 3: No?

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01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 12: I I was looking at some of the young arms.

1445
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 12: I think, you know, one or two of those guys

1446
01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 12: are going to emerge. But you know, greater concern for

1447
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 12: me is is the bats. And and I know the

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01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 12: Reds they brought in, Uh swore as was it?

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01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1450
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 3: Right?

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01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 12: But it's just that the bats of the Reds, they

1452
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 12: you can't go you know, in Major League Baseball, it's

1453
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 12: to be competitive. Competitive when your you know, team is

1454
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 12: batting one and he nine.

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01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 3: You know.

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01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 12: And but now we'll we'll see, I should we'll see

1457
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 12: what goes on. Uh Dan, I wanted to call because, uh, well,

1458
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 12: first I had a.

1459
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 3: Question for you.

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01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 12: You know, do you have any regrets whatsoever? Uh of

1461
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 12: voting for Don John a third time?

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01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: Absolutely not? Why Why would I Why would I have

1463
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: a regret? I was if you had, do you think

1464
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 1: those stories? Tell me? Do you think those stories are true?

1465
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:00,640
Speaker 1: And I see different people post on social media, and

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01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 1: I see people like Acasio Cortes and uh, some other

1467
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 1: squad members and people like that. I think Ilhan Omar

1468
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 1: has said it a few times, and they say that

1469
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 1: people walk up to them randomly and just pull them

1470
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 1: aside and say, hey, you know, I voted for Trump,

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01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 1: but I really regret it. Now. Do you think those

1472
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 1: stories are true?

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01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 12: It is, I can say, Dan, is possible, but.

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01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 1: I don't believe. I know a lot of people. All

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01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 1: I will say is is anecdotally, I know a lot

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01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 1: of people who voted for Trump. We have talked about this,

1477
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 1: who's for I don't know if one person that voted

1478
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 1: for Trump, And honestly, no, not one person that I

1479
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:44,640
Speaker 1: know of who voted for Trump has said to me

1480
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 1: that they regret it. And I would ask anyone who's

1481
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 1: listening to me right now to call in that be.

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01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's a good question to pose to that.

1483
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 1: I'll put it out that. I mean, you know, we've

1484
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 1: only got I'm only gonna be on the air for

1485
01:30:58,360 --> 01:30:59,520
Speaker 1: about six more minutes.

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01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 12: Here, and let me just say this, Dan, It's just yeah.

1487
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 12: But but you know, Robert Muller just died. Good good,

1488
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 12: I'm I'm glad.

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01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 1: He's dead, you know, And.

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01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 12: No sitting president would even utter such a comment, Robert Muller,

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01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 12: no matter what Don John thinks of him, because we

1492
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 12: understand that. But you're talking about a man the embodiment

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01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:42,720
Speaker 12: of integrity, character, well, a military, upstanding citizen. And it's

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01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:43,799
Speaker 12: just that I think.

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01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 1: Part of his life he did that, But that that

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01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 1: doesn't that doesn't sum up his entire life because he

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01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: made Donald Trump's life a living hell. So it's I disagree.

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01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 1: I think Don John may his life a living hell.

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01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 12: His life is he's been in hell because that's how

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01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 12: you rolled.

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01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 3: Did He's just He's just a dude, wouldn't no moral?

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01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: Did Trump collude with the Russians?

1503
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:18,640
Speaker 12: Robert Muller through his investigation, he did not discount that.

1504
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 12: He didn't discount that.

1505
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 1: There's there's no there's no evidence to suggest that he did.

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01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 1: It was all complete Robert Miller made up, fake and phony.

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01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 1: Did you did you want you.

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Speaker 12: Don't have any evidence. You don't have any evidence of that.

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Speaker 1: Did you watch the testimony when Robert did. Did he

1510
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 1: look like he was on top of his game? Did

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01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 1: he look like he was confused at all? Did he

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01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: look like he was in clear command of the facts

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01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: and the Uh, the scope and scale of the investigation

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01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 1: that he was involved in, do you think he was

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01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 1: absolutely YEA, O, my god, what the hell would you?

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01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 12: I think Dan that Robert Muller understood being a career

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01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 12: military man, he understood that, you know, a person in

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01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 12: the Oval Office. I think he struggled with that, but

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01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 12: he found no evidence to exonerate Don John from colluding

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01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 12: with the Russians. When Don John had that party in

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01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 12: the Oval Office with Kolakoff and you know, and all

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01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 12: those you know, Russian guys in there, and they were

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01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 12: kind of, you know, chopping it up and hamming it up,

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01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 12: that that moment right there that spoke volumes, and I

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01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 12: just think that Don John, unfortunately, he's just one of

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01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 12: those guys then.

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01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 1: But hey, that's your guy. Well, you know, you asked

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01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 1: me if I had any regrets voting for Trump, and no,

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01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:00,600
Speaker 1: I do. That doesn't mean that I'm doesn't mean that

1530
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent on board with every single thing

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01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 1: that he has done. But in the big picture, on balance,

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01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 1: I think that Trump is going to be very very

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01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: good for this country. And guy, and like I said before,

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01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 1: God help us, God help us. If the Democrats get

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01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 1: back in control of the house in the Senate. Okay,

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01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 1: brother Raphael, thanks for the call, man.

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Speaker 2: How good are you?

1538
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 3: Man?

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01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 1: There you go, glad we got his call in, So

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01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 1: go ahead and laugh. I mean, he thinks it's funny.

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01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 1: That's that's okay. But uh no, I don't regret it

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Speaker 1: at all. Let's see, we have a new Secretary of

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01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 1: Homeland Security, Mark Wayne Mullen. Here's what he said after

1544
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 1: the swearing in the other day. Let's hear cutting number seven,

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01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 1: Joe Waddell cut number seven. Please thank you.

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01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 13: I think that was the most nervous I've ever been.

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01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 1: I don't.

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01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 13: It just seems surreal being of all and having the

1549
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 13: President of the United States speak so highly of me

1550
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:08,639
Speaker 13: and then recognize my family and know my family by name.

1551
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 13: It's humbling and I never take it for granted. But

1552
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 13: I've made this very clear that I don't care what

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01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 13: color your state is. I don't care if you're red

1554
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 13: or you're blue. At the end of the day, my

1555
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 13: job is to be Secretary of Homeland and to protect

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01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 13: everybody the same, and we will do that. I'll fight

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01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 13: every single day. Today I got the privilege of meeting

1558
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 13: so many of the employees at DHS. These employees have

1559
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 13: been there for thirty days without pay, and if you

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01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 13: need anything to know their dedication to show up and

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01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:43,839
Speaker 13: still protect the homeland that you and I enjoy and

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01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 13: the freedoms that we're experiencing, they're working with for free

1563
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 13: because of political politics. That's all I need to know.

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01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 13: I told them is you're fighting three hundred and sixty

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01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:55,599
Speaker 13: five days. Understand I'll be fighting three inner sixty days,

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01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 13: say three hundred and six five days. Besides you, no

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01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 13: one's going out work me now. I'm not going to

1568
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:02,679
Speaker 13: let any of them outwork me. The President hasn't trusted

1569
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 13: me with this, and failure is not an option. So

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01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 13: thank you so much, mister President, for this opportunity.

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01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 2: I won't let you down.

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01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 10: Thank you very much.

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01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:19,680
Speaker 1: I love that expression. No one's going to outwork me.

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01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 10: That's a wrestlers expression.

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01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 1: Is so there you go, Mark Wayne Mullet, no one's

1576
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 1: getting out work him. He's not going to let us down,

1577
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 1: and God bless him. He's got a big job in

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01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 1: front of him. That's it for me. I gotta go.

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01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow night after the Reds game. Joe Waddell,

1580
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 1: thank you for everything. And I have a great night,

1581
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 1: and let's go Reds Opening Days tomorrow. It's only about

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01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 1: six minutes away on the Home of the Reds seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW