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Speaker 2: sifting through at this moment here Austin is the news

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Speaker 2: we heard from Charlie Goldsmith today as it relates to

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Speaker 2: Hunter Green. Charlie Goldsmith earlier this afternoon tweeting out that

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Speaker 2: Hunter Green is dealing with a right elbow issue. Terry

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Speaker 2: Francona and Nick Crawl were meeting about it. Since then,

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Speaker 2: Hunter Green has spoke. We'll get to that in just

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Speaker 2: a second. Charlie Goldsmith willed that he will see both

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Speaker 2: team doctor Timothy Kremchek and then doctor Neil Elatrosh as

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Speaker 2: well for an MRI. So this is part of the

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Speaker 2: conversation we've kind of had about the Reds and the

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Speaker 2: if factor of what this team can do to reach

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Speaker 2: their ceiling. A big part of that factor is if

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Speaker 2: a guy like Hunter Green can stay healthy, if a

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Speaker 2: guy like Hunter Green can make thirty plus starts. Do

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Speaker 2: we have the Hunter Green quote audio? Do you have

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Speaker 2: not the audio itself, but do you have the quote

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Speaker 2: from Hunter Green of what he had to say?

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Speaker 3: Austin, I do, and Charlie put this on his sub

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Speaker 3: stack on Charlie's chalkboard, and some of the others writers

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Speaker 3: have said it as well. This is the exact quote

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Speaker 3: from Hunter Green. I had this toward the end of

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Speaker 3: the season. Last year, in my final five or six starts,

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Speaker 3: training starter. The discomfort came back. I've been managing it

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Speaker 3: get it looked at. It makes sense to do it now.

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Speaker 2: If it bothered him at the end of last year,

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Speaker 2: But I think one of the one of the points

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Speaker 4: That's good news.

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Speaker 2: What I do think is a little bit interesting is

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Speaker 4: My immediate and most importantly the playoff push.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, My immediate reaction is, why was if you dealt

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Speaker 2: Hunter made this sound like it's something he knows and

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Speaker 2: he's dealt with and he's got stuff floating around. My

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Speaker 2: why couldn't you do that in the offseason?

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Speaker 4: Correct, get in there and clean it up.

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Speaker 3: Every single year there is one of these dumb injuries

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Speaker 3: And listening to Hunter and everything I've read, it's described

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Speaker 3: good news, but why are we at this point twenty

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Speaker 2: I'm reading it again and great, it's the best news

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Speaker 2: But Hunter very openly and again the quote, hopefully I

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Speaker 2: which would lead me to lead me to believe that

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Speaker 3: My reading through the lines here and assuming again assuming,

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Speaker 3: up and then restart. Yep, And okay, that that obviously

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Speaker 3: is much better than having a complete UCL reconstruction and

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Speaker 3: Tommy John surgery. Absolutely, and I don't wish that on Hunter,

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Speaker 3: and don't wish it on anybody. I'm just confused about

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Speaker 3: the timeline once again, Yep. This is the same stuff

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Speaker 3: We've questioned it with Spencer Steer. It's it's the same

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Speaker 3: stuff every single year, and I just I have a

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Speaker 3: hard time understanding it. And I'm not trying to assess

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Speaker 3: blame to the Reds or to Hunter, to anybody. It's

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Speaker 3: just why is there not a simplified timeline that if

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Speaker 3: it should have been priority one in the off season.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And maybe we don't have all the information yet because

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Speaker 3: we'll get more information by Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Okay. Still, I just I don't get it. I don't

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Speaker 2: If you finish a season where they have to hold

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Speaker 2: with an elbow issue as a pitcher, why is priority

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Speaker 2: number one as soon as the season ending, not saying

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Speaker 2: you know what, let's get in there and let's clean

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Speaker 4: At what point did he know he had bone spurs? Right,

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Speaker 3: And if that's the case, was there any indication at

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Speaker 3: best to get rid of them now? Yep, I'm not

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Speaker 3: just trying to figure out, like, how did we get here?

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's it's just a cloudiness around this team, right,

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Speaker 2: is inexcusable.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Again, you're not a doctor. I'm not a doctor. But

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Speaker 4: I understand the idea of uh okay. Season just ended.

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Speaker 3: give it a month to rest and see how it goes.

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Speaker 3: But still I want to go take a look at it.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Again, it's not like a normal person who getting an

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Speaker 2: And again, it's great, it's great. It's good news that

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Speaker 2: But again, a lot of the contingencies we've talked about

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Speaker 2: stay healthy, if Hunter Green can make thirty plus starts

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Speaker 2: well reading in between the lines, I think that might

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Speaker 3: And the other thing, too is the report. So we're

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Speaker 6: The remaining time we're down in three seconds, two one,

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Speaker 5: How you doing well?

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Speaker 2: Least you can and we'll talk about an hour three.

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Speaker 7: Hey, this Hunter Green stuff, Like, come on, we've been

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Speaker 7: Get in front of it as soon as possible. Yes, Like, yes,

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Speaker 7: I mean I'm just blown away by what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 5: Ye.

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Speaker 7: And then like the trade rumors too over the off season,

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Speaker 7: and if they knew that there was an issue, maybe

443
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Speaker 7: they should have traded him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that's that's a good point as well,

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Speaker 2: And maybe that's where some of the frustration came. But

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Speaker 2: I just think of a guy who has dealt with

447
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Speaker 2: so many issues at the injury front, who ended a

448
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Speaker 2: year with this comfort that that should have been taken

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Speaker 2: with a little bit more priority.

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Speaker 4: I feel like at this.

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Speaker 7: Point, Yeah, you got to get ahead of crap like that.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it just.

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: It bothers my mind how they just keep dropping the ball. Yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 7: thanks for taking my car, Chris.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you man a lot, sir. Yeah, that's the thing too.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about that over the break, Austin. It's

458
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 2: not like you have like just this iron man workhorse

459
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Speaker 2: who never misses games.

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Speaker 4: He's a player.

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Speaker 2: That the the the greatness in which we talk about

462
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Speaker 2: Hunter has always met with what he just misses too many.

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Speaker 4: Starts he's already had. Tommy Johnson, is.

464
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Speaker 2: That the guy you want to make sure you're one

465
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Speaker 2: hundred percent good.

466
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Speaker 4: With happened once before.

467
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Speaker 2: Just get the testing done at the end of last year.

468
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Speaker 2: Do not let things linger. And now it's a talking point.

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Speaker 2: Now it's an issue, and now for a team that

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Speaker 2: if you're looking at the projections and you're looking at

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Speaker 2: playoff odds and nl Central odds, the margin for air

472
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Speaker 2: is already small with this team, and you're already going

473
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Speaker 2: to go at least it seems like into the start

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Speaker 2: of the year without one of your best weapons on

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Speaker 2: the mount or your best weapon on the mound. According

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Speaker 2: to ESPN dot com today, they ranked their top one

477
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Speaker 2: hundred players in all of baseball. Andrew Abbott was near

478
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Speaker 2: the bottom of that. Eohney Osuarez was near the bottom

479
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Speaker 2: of that. Elie de la Cruz was ranked twenty fourth

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Speaker 2: of all players in baseball. Hunter Green position players, pitchers DHS.

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Speaker 2: Hunter Greener was ranked number fifty. He's one of the

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Speaker 2: top fifty players in the game of baseball. Should not

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Speaker 2: be handled that way in an offseason, do not make

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of sense. We'll grab one more phone

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Speaker 2: call and then we'll move on.

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Speaker 4: Mike. What's up?

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Speaker 8: Thanks a lot, guys, bear Cat, I know I'm gonna

488
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Speaker 8: get the baseball. Bearcat's go, brother. I got a win

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Speaker 8: in the East Regional Final four.

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Speaker 4: Baby, I'm in here, I'm.

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Speaker 8: In That's how I get him going, Austin. You know

492
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Speaker 8: that's the easiest help man.

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Speaker 4: Sign me up.

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Speaker 8: Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure. Sign you up. Take that

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Speaker 8: to the great baby, Okay, here we go, mister Green,

496
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Speaker 8: let's just call him mister alive. Well, I feel hard

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Speaker 8: for the guy that keeps getting hurt, but we can't

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Speaker 8: keep dealing with this crap. It's nonsense. Well, what's what's next?

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Speaker 8: Al McClean. He retweets his obleak obie up for a while,

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Speaker 8: and then they did, we only have one guy in

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Speaker 8: the top fifty. That's not very good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's again.

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Speaker 8: Here go ahead, I just I.

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Speaker 2: Go back twenty twenty two, twenty four starts, twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: twenty two stars. It's twenty twenty four, twenty six starts.

506
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: Last year nineteen starts. This is a guy you talked

507
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Speaker 2: about all offseason. You need Hunter Green to make at

508
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Speaker 2: least thirty starts. He's not sniffed that in his career,

509
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Speaker 2: and now you're already staring down the barrel that again.

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Speaker 4: It is. It's frustrating beyond belief right now with Hunter Green.

511
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Speaker 8: And it's not just him, it's Loadalo then and Andrew

512
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Speaker 8: abb but walking around at twenty five years old with

513
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Speaker 8: a little beer belly.

514
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Speaker 2: On, Spencer Steer, Matt McClain and the injuries that have

515
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Speaker 2: lingered on it's just a lot.

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Speaker 8: And here's here's something I found out. Every year they race,

517
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Speaker 8: it's called the Tea Bats Professional Baseball Athletic Training Staff Awards.

518
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 8: They rank every team. Last year the Blue Jays won.

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Speaker 8: They were the best. Second was the Yankees. The Dodgers

520
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Speaker 8: and the Rays were tied for third. Tampa Bay Rays

521
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Speaker 8: tied for third. I didn't go beyond that. I don't

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Speaker 8: know where the Reds were. But that's that's you ought

523
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Speaker 8: to ask your buddy, your doctor, what's his name? You're

524
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Speaker 8: going to him on it too.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're trying to get uh, normally we get Bob Manngina.

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Speaker 2: We'll get him tomorrow ideally.

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Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, And asked him about that Tea Bats. You know,

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Speaker 8: I wasn't aware that they ranked the what I thought, well,

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Speaker 8: they probably do, and sure enough that's where we ended up.

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Speaker 8: Do you think Trey's going to Indy or the Bears?

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Speaker 2: I still think the most sense makes for Trey Henderson

532
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Speaker 2: is Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: I think it's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Adam Schefter said this week that Tampa is a potential

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Speaker 3: landing spot for him.

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Speaker 8: We'll be don He's from Florida, right, Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he lives in that area. I don't think Jacksonville

538
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 3: financially would be able to pull it off, but I

539
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Speaker 3: think there's some mutual interest with Tampa.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And he's used to playing in the heat, if

542
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Speaker 8: he if he grew up in Florida, he's used to

543
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Speaker 8: the heat. So that's not going to be a big patter,

544
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Speaker 8: even at his age. I wouldn't think. So that's all

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Speaker 8: I had, Guys, I just thought i'd throw that tea

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Speaker 8: bats thing and yeah for you, and I appreciate the time.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, Mike, appreciate it. Mike, have a good one.

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Speaker 2: Uh, let's grab a let's grab a break, let's come

549
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Speaker 2: back and uh we'll finish up this Hunter Green conversation

550
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Speaker 2: and we'll talk about what's going on in the National

551
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Speaker 2: Football League as well. Thanks to Skyline Chili, our number

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Speaker 2: one ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 7: I'm Amanda Knox and in the new.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back in the action Tony Pike, Sincy three

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Speaker 1: sixty is back now on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back Cinty three to sixty.

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station and a service hour

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Speaker 2: number one of our friends at Skyline Chili We'll have

559
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Speaker 2: more on Hunter Green as more becomes available to News today,

560
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Speaker 2: as he is meeting with doctor Timothy Kremchek, and we'll

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Speaker 2: meet with Neil Elatrosh on Monday to discuss some elbow discomfort.

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Speaker 4: You have experience with doctor Elatrosh, don't you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's who I saw for my second opinion on

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Speaker 2: my UCL What did he say?

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Speaker 4: He cut me open multiple times? Did he he?

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Speaker 10: Also?

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Speaker 3: I want to say, didn't he work on burrows knee

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Speaker 3: when he was a rookie?

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Speaker 4: I think so. I think that's correct. I think so.

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Speaker 3: People hawking up along in us. Yeah, I got the

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Speaker 3: door open to day because it's nine thousand degrees in here,

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Speaker 3: and I hope everyone's okay. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: people that are sick in this office right now. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you've noticed it, but a lot of

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Speaker 3: you know, voices sounding a little deeper. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: of crankiness going on there. I can't imagine why. From

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Speaker 3: I think everybody, that's just a normal symptom of this place.

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Speaker 3: And then people sick on top of it, a lot

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Speaker 3: of hacking going on, hawking and hacking. Make sure you're

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Speaker 3: taking your electrolytes. Yep, your vitamin C. You're washing your

581
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Speaker 3: hand and you're using the dead gum hand sanitized.

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Speaker 4: That's it, all right.

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Speaker 3: Any questions about personal hygiene and safety from germs, just

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Speaker 3: get with me.

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Speaker 4: I'll be sick next week. The uh the Hunter Green news.

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Speaker 2: The latest and the long line of injuries Hunter Green

587
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: has dealt with all the way back to twenty twenty two,

588
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: from a shoulder, to the shin, to the hip, to

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Speaker 2: the elbow, to the groin, to the groin again, and

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00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: now the elbow again.

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Speaker 4: Remember when he was vomit on the mound. Yep, that

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Speaker 4: was cool. Yep that throw that in there.

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Speaker 3: That was actually kind of cool. Though he said, drink

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Speaker 3: too much? Yeah, water, I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 4: We all have those. Did you drink too much last night?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 4: Okay, you looked a little disheveled coming in here. This one.

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Speaker 4: Well that's just because why we were coming in. I

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Speaker 4: kind of figured you didn't sleep much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot of excitement from last night.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to We'll get to college basketball real quick.

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Speaker 2: What's going on around the National Football League has been

603
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Speaker 2: some moves early on the day. The biggest move that

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Speaker 2: has been made is the Kansas City Chiefs have moved

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Speaker 2: on from their best cornerback, Trent McDuffie. In return, he

606
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Speaker 2: will be going to the Rams, and the Rams will

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Speaker 2: send the Chiefs four draft picks. Their first round pick

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Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty sixth draft, that's the twenty ninth

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Speaker 2: overall pick. The Chiefs will get a fifth and a

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Speaker 2: sixth in this year's draft and a twenty twenty seven

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Speaker 2: third round from the Rams. Since twenty seventeen, Austin This

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Speaker 2: according to Field Yates when this is how the Rams

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Speaker 2: have used their first pick since twenty seventeen. Twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 2: they traded that pick to the Titans. Twenty eighteen traded

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Speaker 2: to the Patriots, twenty nineteen traded to the Falcons. Twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty and twenty twenty one were both traded to the Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two and twenty three were traded to the Lions.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four, they drafted Jared Verse that was

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Speaker 2: a good selection middle named Bible. Twenty twenty five, they

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Speaker 2: traded their pick to the Falcons, and this year they

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Speaker 2: traded their pick to the Kansas City Chiefs. There is

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Speaker 2: no team in the NFL. That does not value draft

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Speaker 2: picks more than the Los Angeles Rams.

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Speaker 3: It's that old f them picks strategy that they've not

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Speaker 3: been afraid to employ. What I think is interesting is

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Speaker 3: the difference in prioritization of the cornerback position when it

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Speaker 3: comes to these two franchises. So listen to this. The Rams,

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Speaker 3: and this is coming from Steve Weisch from NFL Network,

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Speaker 3: the Rams are not afraid to spend draft picks and

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Speaker 3: money on high caliber cornerbacks, especially via trades. In the

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Speaker 3: McVeagh era, the Rams have traded four Marcus Peters, Jalen Ramsey,

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Speaker 3: and Trent McDuffie. Meanwhile, you look at the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: they are historically one of the teams that do not

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Speaker 3: spend on the cornerback position. From twenty nineteen until twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four, they were routinely near the bottom of the

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Speaker 3: league for cornerback spending. The Chiefs won and the Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl in twenty twenty two, spending a league low six

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Speaker 3: point seven million dollars total on their cornerback room.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And as Ben Finel, who is one of my favorites.

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Speaker 3: He's a producer for the NFL on CBS and the

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Speaker 3: NFL on Prime. As he posted on his page, quote

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Speaker 3: show me a dominant front, I'll show you a back

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Speaker 3: end that can cover. So two of the more successful

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Speaker 3: franchises each have won a Super Bowl in the last

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Speaker 3: six years. One of them very very aggressive in acquiring

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Speaker 3: good cornerbacks for draft picks, another one very unaggressive when

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Speaker 3: it comes to spending money at that position. They both

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Speaker 3: have been successful. There's that old saying out there there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of different ways to spin a cat.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know if I was allowed to say that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm trying not to get canceled, but at this point,

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Speaker 3: who cares. There's a lot of ways to skin a cat.

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Speaker 4: There we go.

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Speaker 2: Other NFL news the Indianapolis The Colts have used the

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Speaker 2: transition tag on Daniel Jones. Essentially that guarantees the Colts

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Speaker 2: the right of first refusal for Jones, preserving the right

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Speaker 2: to match any competing offer sheet he might sign with

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Speaker 2: an interested team. We rarely hear about the transition tag,

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Speaker 2: doesn't happen very often, but the Colts have used said

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Speaker 2: tag for Daniel Jones. Other NFL happenings. Mackai Beckton has

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Speaker 2: been cut by the Los Angeles Chargers. It'll save them

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Speaker 2: nine point seven million against the cap. He struggled last

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Speaker 2: year with the Chargers. He signed a two year, twenty

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Speaker 2: million dollar deal. Six year NFL veteran is now available

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Speaker 2: to sign with another team in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: That the move the Chargers made, and speaking of moves

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Speaker 2: that are being made, Dallas reworking deals of Ceedee Lamb,

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Speaker 2: Tyler Smith and Dak Prescott have now gotten themselves under

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Speaker 2: the salary cap. So they were over the cap Austin

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Speaker 2: by fifty five million before those deals yesterday. Now they

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Speaker 2: have cleared up around sixty six million just by restructuring

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Speaker 2: three deals.

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Speaker 4: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if the Cowboys could be one of those

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Speaker 3: teams who is in play for Max Crosby.

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Speaker 2: Which does sound you said this today, It does sound

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Speaker 2: like there's a chance Max Crosby has moved.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: There was an article written today by Mike Silver from

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Speaker 3: The Athletic and it does not make it look or

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Speaker 3: seem like things are going well in Las Vegas with

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Speaker 3: the Raiders and especially with Max Crosby the way that

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Speaker 3: Silver wrote it today. As yet another Raiders coach attempts

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Speaker 3: to create a winning culture, he'll likely do so without

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Speaker 3: the longtime locker room alpha who's expected to be traded

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Speaker 3: in the coming days or weeks. So it seems like

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Speaker 3: Max Crosby. And he also says that this could go

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Speaker 3: into the season. So it's one thing to say days

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Speaker 3: and weeks, it's another thing to potentially say months. But

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Speaker 3: it does seem like Max Crosby and the Raiders are

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Speaker 3: headed for a divorce. And you know, I think Jerry

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Speaker 3: Jones could win some people back absolutely trading Micah Parsons

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Speaker 3: if he's able to somehow acquire Max Crosby, and that

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Speaker 3: seems like a move Jerry would want to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the move obviously here yesterday for the Bengals was

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Speaker 2: to not put the franchise tag on Trey Hendrickson. Trey

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Speaker 2: Hendrickson took to social media as well. He thanked the organization,

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Speaker 2: He thanked the teammates, he thanked the coaches and the staff.

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Speaker 2: This is what he had to say, Austin to the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati fans, thank you, thank you for supporting me in

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Speaker 2: the relentless pursuit of winning. That sounds like something we

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Speaker 2: want here, relentless. With that, thank you for supporting me

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Speaker 2: and the relentless pursuit of winning. You've made the jungle

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Speaker 2: roar when I hunted QB after QB. Memories of those

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Speaker 2: moments will live in my heart and mind forever. The

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Speaker 2: hard work the city puts in and it's support for

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Speaker 2: the Bengals made it easy to empty the tank for

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Speaker 2: this fan base. I could not be more proud of

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Speaker 2: the high standards we have for our city and the

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Speaker 2: football team. Cincinnati is home now and forever. God has

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Speaker 2: blessed me with the abilities I was able to showcase.

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Speaker 2: Here to God be the glory. Thanks for sharing the love,

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Speaker 2: support and memories.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the smallest font ever in a Yeah that was

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Speaker 3: tough to even read from me right there in a

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Speaker 3: thank you note. Yeah, and like the backdrop doesn't help.

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Speaker 3: It's like a dark gray backdrop with black lettering.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's that meme? That graphic design? It's not great?

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Speaker 4: Is my passions not great?

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Speaker 10: You know?

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Speaker 4: It's Listen.

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Speaker 3: Trey is one of the best ever to play for

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Speaker 3: the Bengals, and I think he had seventy one sacks

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Speaker 3: in seventy nine games, forced a bunch of fumbles, closed

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Speaker 3: multiple games, was a huge part of the most successful

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Speaker 3: run in franchise history and those back to back seasons.

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Speaker 3: I got nothing bad to say about Trey, and I

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Speaker 3: don't think any Bengals fans should. Clearly, it just didn't

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Speaker 3: work the way he views his business and the way

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Speaker 3: the Bengals view their business towards the end. But I

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Speaker 3: don't think that that's a reason for parting shots at

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Speaker 3: either side, to be completely honest, because I do think

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Speaker 3: the Bengals did a lot to try to make it

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Speaker 3: work based off their parameters, and they could have avoided

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Speaker 3: a lot of that had they done it sooner. But

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Speaker 3: it's not At this point, it doesn't matter. Yeah, it's okay.

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Speaker 3: Now the Bengals, instead of committing thirty plus million dollars

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Speaker 3: to Trey Hendrickson, get to use and should use that

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Speaker 3: money elsewhere to make their football team better. And again,

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Speaker 3: it's not about one player, especially on defense. They need

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Speaker 3: a lot more, and I expect the Bengals to make

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Speaker 3: a run at some guys that are gonna fix that

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Speaker 3: and fill that hole.

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Speaker 2: We'll break, we will come back, we'll wrap up our

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Speaker 2: number one, and we'll turn it to Dan Horror who

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Speaker 2: will join us at the start of our number two.

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Speaker 2: Since he three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 12: Hey Alexa, what's going on in baseball?

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Speaker 4: Welcome back since he three sixty.

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station, thanks to Skyline, Chillie.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. We'll get back to your phone

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Speaker 2: calls as we get later into the show. Today, we

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Speaker 2: have Dan Hord coming up in just a few moments,

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Speaker 2: and then of course your talkbacks. We're also twenty two

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Speaker 2: days away from opening day here in the city of

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati and the Treads d D Day today.

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Speaker 3: Remember when he put on that exterminator shoot after those

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Speaker 3: bees and the chains. I wish bees were the Red's

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Speaker 3: biggest problem today.

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Speaker 4: Dietrich was a fun He was a fun case. He

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Speaker 4: was a cool dude man. Yeah, yeah, good guy to

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Speaker 4: have around.

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Speaker 3: Would people always say that that twenty nineteam was the

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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen team was the most exciting seventy five win

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Speaker 3: team of all time, And I think they'd be correct. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's a good page, lorenzen Bauer. There was some Dietrich

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Speaker 3: a fun year, some dudes on that team. Jesse winkerd wink.

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Speaker 4: Do wink baby. I love Jesse win wink. What's he doing?

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Speaker 4: It's a good question, right fighting with Mets fans.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot better than what's going on right now

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Speaker 2: on the TV that's in the studio I got. I

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Speaker 2: don't have the obviously the volume doesn't stay on, but

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Speaker 2: I got first taken here, and.

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Speaker 4: All I see is why are you watching this?

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Speaker 2: Should Burrow be confident with his future on Bengals? Question

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Speaker 2: Mark team does not use the franchise tag on Trey Hendrickson,

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Speaker 2: d N post a goodbye to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: And now I got Stephen A.

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Speaker 2: Smith yelling at the TV about how dysfunctional of an

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Speaker 2: organization the Bengals are and how they're going to ruin

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: Was this a surprise yesterday?

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Speaker 2: No, the Trey Hendrickson situation like, to me, there were

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Speaker 2: two layups to be made to kicked off this offseason,

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Speaker 2: and the Bengals made both of them.

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Speaker 3: It's funny, you know, all this time, for the last

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Speaker 3: couple of years, nobody really gives Trey Hendrickson enough credit

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Speaker 3: for how good he is. No, and then all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden he doesn't get franchise tagged, and people are like, well,

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Speaker 3: this is the modern day, you know, Jared Allen Right here,

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Speaker 3: this guy was on the Purple People leaders back in

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Speaker 3: the day. It's Reggie White that the Bengals have let go.

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Speaker 4: Make it make sense. Why aren't you paying any attention

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Speaker 4: to him for the last couple of years? Make it

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Speaker 4: make sense. I've told you this before.

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Speaker 3: Number One, don't watch those shows because they suck and

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Speaker 3: the people are not very bright, especially people like Steven A.

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Speaker 4: Smith. Secondly, the other part you got to understand here.

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Speaker 2: Is did the Bengals try to market Trey Hendrickson? Did

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Speaker 2: anyone want to give up any type of draft pick

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Speaker 2: capital for Trey Hendrickson?

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Speaker 3: Not what the Bengals wanted. They should have taken the deal,

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Speaker 3: but not what the Bengals wanted.

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Speaker 2: Like last week at the Combine bouncing around Indy, do

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Speaker 2: you think anyone was like, hey, Duke, let's talk about

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Speaker 2: this Trey Hendrickson Fella.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The Bengals, because they didn't do it last year, had

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Speaker 3: no leverage. Teams knew they were gonna cut him.

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Speaker 13: It.

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Speaker 2: Just whether they handled it correctly last year or the

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Speaker 2: year before is in question. This year, this decision barring

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Speaker 2: someone at the Combine saying yeah, tag him, trade him

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Speaker 2: to us, and we'll give you this. The Bengals made

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Speaker 2: the right move here. This is a move that had

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Speaker 2: to be done. Look at the state of their defense.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget Trey Hendrickson two years ago led the NFL

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Speaker 2: in sacks on the worst defense in the NFL. They

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Speaker 2: need more than a Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: They've drafted Miles Murphy, They've drafted Shamar Stewart, drafted Joseph Osai.

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Speaker 2: Something's got to pan out regardless.

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Speaker 4: And that's this time.

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Speaker 3: I don't put a lot of stock into what those

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Speaker 3: types of shows say m hm, because they don't pay

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Speaker 3: attention to the rest of that stuff. They don't consider

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Speaker 3: that other stuff. It's just, Hey, this is a really

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Speaker 3: good player that the Bengals are letting go and their

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Speaker 3: defense already stinks, so clearly they're not committed to winning.

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Speaker 3: That's not true. This move, in my mind, is indicative

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Speaker 3: that they are committed to winning and committed to fixing

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Speaker 3: the other issues with their defense. The problem will always

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Speaker 3: remain this because the Bengals have screwed this up in

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Speaker 3: the past. That is their reputation because they've done it

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Speaker 3: with Palmer, they've done it with Dalton they haven't built

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Speaker 3: around these guys, and because they've screwed it up, that

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Speaker 3: becomes their reputation. Sure, that's what the national media conversation

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Speaker 3: is that it and it should be until they fix

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Speaker 3: it correct. So I appreciate that they hold the Bengals

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Speaker 3: feet under the fire. I appreciate that they are critical

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Speaker 3: of them because until you prove that your cape of

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Speaker 3: doing the other the other thing, until you prove you're

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Speaker 3: capable of otherwise, then you are going to get this criticism,

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Speaker 3: and you deserve it.

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Speaker 4: This is the opportunity for the Bengals to fix it.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Dan Hord knows a thing or two about the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: He knows a thing or two about the Bearcats as well.

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Speaker 4: A lot. Dan knows a lot.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to those things, maybe too much, when we return.

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Speaker 2: The start of our two brings Dan Horde with us

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Speaker 2: next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station Ucky Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, our number two since e three to sixty.

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Talkbacks come up in just a little bit, and we've

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Speaker 2: got Pat Brennan who's going to join us. At two o'clock.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk some more Hunter Green. But kicking things off

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Speaker 2: here our number two, the voice of the Bengals, the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame voice of the Cincinnati Bearcats, as well,

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Speaker 2: our good friend Dan Horde is with us. Damn, what's

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 8: Tony?

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Speaker 15: I thought you were going to introduce me as the

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00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 15: voice of the hottest team in college Man, aren't they for.

874
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 8: The last month?

875
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 15: That's not an exaggeration.

876
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 4: How how fun has this been?

877
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: You're watching a team who's playing in the best conference

878
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: in all of college basketball, and they're not just winning,

879
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: they're dominating in a lot of these games. Outside of

880
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: a road trip to Texas Tech, who's playing really well,

881
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: and they're playing such a different style. They've not just won,

882
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: they've won convincingly. How much fun has this been? To

883
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: go along with.

884
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 15: Really fun and honestly a little bit bewildering? I mean,

885
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 15: at the end of these games, look at Terry or

886
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 15: I look at Terry and Mohan, we all kind of think,

887
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 15: did that really just happen? Did they win by twenty again?

888
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 15: Did they go on the road to Kansas and win

889
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 15: by sixteen? I mean, credit to Wes, credit to the coaches,

890
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 15: credit to the players. They are at least keeping those

891
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 15: NCAA tournament bubble hopes alive.

892
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: You mentioned credit to Wes, and I'll credit the players

893
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: as well. They lose fifty nine to fifty four at

894
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: home against West Virginia, coming off the loss at Houston,

895
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 2: and it felt like at the time they had just

896
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: dropped the three and seven in the Big twelve. You

897
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: had the Wes Miller post game press conference. He was

898
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: talking to fans inside the tunnel, and it felt like, Man,

899
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: if there's ever a moment that this is going to collapse,

900
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: this is it. This felt like a bottoming out. And

901
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 2: I credit the coaching staff. I credit the players. They've

902
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: done just the opposite. They've come out and played their

903
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: best basketball after one of their darkest moments of the season.

904
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: And I don't think you can give this team and

905
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: the coaching staff enough credit for that.

906
00:46:59,080 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 4: Turnaround.

907
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 5: I agree.

908
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 15: They bounced back from that game beat UCF by twenty

909
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 15: That's a locked team to go to the NCAA Tournament.

910
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 15: So that was a great win. Maybe it didn't feel

911
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 15: like it at the time, but UCF has been excellent

912
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 15: since then on the road to win by twenty nine

913
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 15: at Kansas State, and the list goes on and on.

914
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 15: So yeah, that West Virginia loss, the second West Virginia

915
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,479
Speaker 15: loss felt like kind of rock bottom. I do think

916
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 15: that maybe we are underestimating West Virginia a little bit.

917
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 15: They're not great, nobody's going to say that they are,

918
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 15: but they do have five quiet one wins, and every

919
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 15: time that those two games get brought up, it's like, oh,

920
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 15: how con Cincinnati have possibly lost to West Virginia?

921
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 5: Will you know?

922
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 15: They won a position to win both teams. Unfortunately they

923
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 15: didn't win either. But West Virginia doesn't suck, so we

924
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 15: should probably acknowledge the fact that at least that's a

925
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 15: decent team.

926
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: Kerkkrisa has missed a lot of time due to injury.

927
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: Tyler McKinley has been out with an injury. Seanna Bye

928
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: have missed has missed due to an injury. They have

929
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 2: not had the services of Jalen Haynes all season. I'm

930
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: watching last night, and you think Zella and Tillery or

931
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 2: Zell and Harris, so the first two off the bench.

932
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: And if you would have said that at the beginning

933
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: of the year, you'd have been with the things have

934
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: had to gone south quickly, and yet they've had to

935
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: shrink the rotation. But with that they're playing some of

936
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: their best basketball. Is there something to having to only

937
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: play seven or eight guys consistently? That's lending to some

938
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 2: of the success in your opinion.

939
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 15: One, but largely because the guys that you mentioned at

940
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 15: the beginning didn't play well this year. I mean Kerkrisa

941
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 15: coming back from missing nearly all of last year with

942
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 15: not the guy that he used to be at Arizona

943
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 15: in particular when he led his conference and assist twice

944
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 15: and even at West Virginia a few years ago, where

945
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 15: he shot the lights.

946
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 4: Out of the ball.

947
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 15: I think he was a forty four percent three point shooter.

948
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 15: He just was not that guy in the early portion

949
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 15: of this year, and Seanabayev was figuring it out. He

950
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 15: didn't play well at all, shot twenty five percent from

951
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 15: outside the Yark. He took bad shot after bad shot.

952
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 15: I was encouraged by what we saw from Sean the

953
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 15: last time he played a couple of games ago where

954
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 15: he was looking to be a facilitator. Take good shots.

955
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 15: They don't all have to be step backs. You're a

956
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 15: good shooter, but when you add degree of difficulty that's

957
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 15: not going to go well.

958
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 4: Be a facilitator.

959
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 15: Use your height to see over the defense, take the

960
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 15: open shots, and you can be an excellent college player.

961
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 15: But unfortunately early this year he was not, and his

962
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 15: minutes were hurting, not helping.

963
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: I look at a team and there's been a lot

964
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: of development questions, or at least I had heard that

965
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: from different people. And I look back after last night

966
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: and kind of watching the game, and I think to myself,

967
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: and Celestine has gotten better as the season has gone on.

968
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: Since here, Harris has gotten better. Boba Miller and Mustapha

969
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: Chom have improved so much. They're one of the best

970
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: front courts in all of college basketball right now with

971
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: what they can do playing inside out through their big key.

972
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: Chan Tillery as a true freshman has developed. Talk about

973
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: just the progression you've seen from your point of view

974
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: of these players that, yes, maybe it took some time,

975
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: but you can't argue with the fact that these players

976
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: have gotten better as the season has gone on.

977
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 15: I think Boba Miller is the one to really single

978
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 15: out because this is his fourth college season. He's been

979
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 15: a good player, particularly last year at Florida Atlantic. He

980
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 15: was second team All Conference last year, but he's never

981
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 15: been this guy. He leads Cincinnati in scoring, rebounding, and

982
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 15: assist average. The last Bearcat to do that has a

983
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 15: statue outside the arena, Oscar did it nineteen sixty. Nobody's

984
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 15: led in all three categories since. He has become a

985
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 15: legitimate NBA prospect. The last time I looked at an

986
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 15: NBA mock draft, he's now being projected as a second

987
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 15: round pick. I think with his skill set he can

988
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 15: play in the NBA. He still needs to improve his

989
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 15: outside shooting, but he's a great ball handler. For six

990
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 15: to eleven. He's averaging nearly six assists a game during

991
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 15: this seven game stretch. So of all the guys that

992
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 15: have made strides, I think the coaching staff deserves the

993
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 15: most credit for helping Boba become what he's become.

994
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 2: What did you make? I was talking with Moegor about

995
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: this off air this morning. Being there last night, it

996
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: felt like one of the best crowds since they've reopened

997
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 2: Fifth Third Arena. Certainly the high and mighties were there

998
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: last night. I saw Dave Lapham was in attendance last night.

999
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: So the stars are out for the Bearcats right now.

1000
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 2: But just talk about the atmosphere that your front center

1001
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 2: to be a part of.

1002
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 4: Last night.

1003
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 2: It's a Tuesday night, it's nine pm. It's a team

1004
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: still on the outside trying to get in, and I

1005
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: thought one of the best crowds we've seen in recent years, twelve.

1006
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 15: And twelve in attendance, that is capacity. It's the first

1007
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 15: time this year that every seat has been sold. You know,

1008
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 15: it felt like the glory days last night. Whatever era

1009
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 15: you want to name, Bob Huggins Mick Cronin had set up,

1010
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 15: the place was rocking. They lifted the team up in

1011
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 15: those few moments where they needed a little bit of

1012
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 15: a boost. The pregame ceremonies for DAYDA Thomas where spectacular.

1013
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 15: You know, people understand that Day Day Thomases are becoming

1014
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 15: more and more obsolete. You don't have guys that stick

1015
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 15: around for three years like he has maybe just James

1016
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,479
Speaker 15: will make it four years next year. But I thought

1017
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 15: it was great the way that they went crazy for

1018
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 15: day day before the game, and I know it meant

1019
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 15: a lot to him and to coach Miller.

1020
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: I thought it was unique Wes Miller just being nervous

1021
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 2: because he wanted that so much for day day Thomas,

1022
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: I know, coach after the game kind of played it

1023
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: off and they're playing one game at a time, and

1024
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: that's the right mentality to have.

1025
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 4: Have you looked ahead at all?

1026
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: Obviously this doesn't become any more of a conversation if

1027
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: they don't get to win on Saturday at TCU. It's

1028
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: another quad one opportunity. Do you have a number in mind?

1029
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: Do you have a set goal in mind on a

1030
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: number or a win amount? It makes this team an

1031
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament team in your opinion.

1032
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 15: I feel like I look at this twenty four hours

1033
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 15: a day coming. I'm looking at every bracketologist too. Naturally,

1034
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 15: I favor the bracketologist who his kindest to the Americats.

1035
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 15: So whoever has Cincinnati highest and like the next four out,

1036
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 15: that becomes my guy for twenty four hours until it changes.

1037
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 15: I think minimally they need to win their next three, Okay,

1038
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,479
Speaker 15: so be TCU get another quad one, beat whoever they'll

1039
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 15: face in the first round of the Big twelve tournament.

1040
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 15: And again if they beat PCU, then they would get

1041
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 15: a first round by in the Big twelve Tournament. So

1042
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 15: now we're talking about a Wednesday game against a team

1043
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 15: that's going to be similar to them, a BYU, a

1044
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 15: West Virginia, a UCF, somebody in that category. So that's

1045
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 15: not going to do it. But if they win that game,

1046
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 15: then the game after that you're talking about, in all

1047
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 15: likelihood Arizona or Houston or Texas Tech. So if it's Arizona,

1048
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 15: I think that would do it.

1049
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 4: Sure.

1050
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 15: If it's Houston, I don't know. It would certainly help

1051
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 15: a lot. I don't know that that would make them

1052
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 15: a tournament team. If it's Iowa State or Texas Tech,

1053
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 15: I really are sure. I'm not sure it would do it.

1054
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 15: So it's going to kind of depend first on winning

1055
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 15: those next two and then who they would play in

1056
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,479
Speaker 15: that second Big Twelve Tournament game.

1057
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: It's certainly, as you mentioned, though, it's a team right now.

1058
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 2: I would venture to say not a lot of tournament

1059
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: teams would want to see come up against them the

1060
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 2: way that the Cincinnati Bearcats are playing basketball right now,

1061
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 2: I'd be remiss not to ask you as well as

1062
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: we have a few minutes here with Dan Horde, what

1063
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: the Bengals have done over the past week or so.

1064
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: It was called a layup by a lot of people,

1065
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: But the Dalton Riisner deal, Dan you, Now, I think

1066
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: for years now we've talked about offensive line. Got to

1067
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: address offensive line, got to address offensive line. It feels

1068
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 2: like at this point offensive line is good. It's said

1069
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 2: you can always add you can always add depth. I

1070
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 2: get that, but you've got to feel good if you're

1071
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals about the first job, and that's protecting

1072
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: Joe Burrown. It seems like they've done that by getting

1073
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: the Riisner deal done.

1074
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 15: When is the rest of the world going to acknowledge that? Yes,

1075
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 15: I think die hard Bengals fans and I'm not even

1076
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 15: sure about casual Bengals fans. I think die hard Bengals

1077
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 15: fans recognize how well the offensive line played in the

1078
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 15: second half of last season. And it's actually even more

1079
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 15: than that if you go back to the Green Bay game.

1080
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 15: So we're talking final twelve games of the year. This

1081
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 15: is not a small sample size. This is a big

1082
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 15: chunk of the season. I believe PFF had them graded

1083
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 15: as the sixth best pass blocking offensive line over the

1084
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 15: final twelve games.

1085
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:49,959
Speaker 4: Of the year.

1086
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 15: That's real, that's not a mirage. Dalton Reisner made a

1087
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 15: big difference. And I'm not sure that we're giving enough

1088
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 15: credit to Scott Peters because I think at the beginning

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Speaker 15: of the year his unorthodox coaching methods may have caused

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Speaker 15: a slight step back early, but once they were learned

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Speaker 15: and embraced, I think it paid big dividends in the

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Speaker 15: long run. And I did a sit down with Dalton

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Speaker 15: Reisner before his news conference a couple of days ago,

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00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 15: asked him about Scott Peters and he said, please send

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Speaker 15: what I'm about to say to Scott Peters.

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Speaker 4: I want him to hear that.

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Speaker 15: And he basically said, the guy has.

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Speaker 4: Changed my career. He's that good.

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Speaker 16: Wow.

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Speaker 15: So having all five back, seeing a Marius Mims emerge

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Speaker 15: as one of the best tackles in the NFL, having

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Speaker 15: the other four guys be at least solid, maybe Dylan

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00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 15: Fairchild's going to be much more than solid as his

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Speaker 15: career goes forward. And having a coach that these guys

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Speaker 15: really believe in. I am bullish on the Bengals offensive line.

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Speaker 3: On the other side of that too, they found something

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00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 3: in the running game towards the end of the season

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00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 3: as well that they unlocked. But when it comes to rise,

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Speaker 3: have you ever seen a press conference like that, Dan,

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00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 3: I've never seen somebody happier to sign, you know, a

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00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 3: five million dollar deal. You would have thought he signed

1112
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 3: a seven hundred and fifty million dollar deal.

1113
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Speaker 4: He was a sheer delight.

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Speaker 15: Dalton Reisner has emerged as a favorite of mine and

1115
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 15: I told him on Tuesday, when you are finished playing,

1116
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 15: and hopefully that's many years from now, you could be

1117
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 15: a superstar in broadcasting. And he basically said, you know.

1118
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 4: I'm good with that.

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00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 15: He liked the sound of that, so, you know, he

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Speaker 15: kind of reminds me of Andrew Whitworth in terms of

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00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 15: how articulate, how articulate he is, how honest he is,

1122
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 15: He's funny, he's got it all as a broadcaster. Now,

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Speaker 15: it helps if you're a potential Hall of Famer like

1124
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Speaker 15: Andrew Whitworth, to get that first opportunity. Dalton Reisner certainly

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Speaker 15: won't start in primetime if he gets into broadcasting, but

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Speaker 15: I could definitely see him having a future in this profession.

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00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: Why do you think offensive linemen are such good broadcasters.

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Speaker 15: You've got to be smart to play off offensive line.

1129
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 15: It is so complicated on every play that I think

1130
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 15: those guys typically are among the smartest on the team,

1131
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 15: and I think they've got a good perspective. You know

1132
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 15: that the life in the trenches, you kind of have to,

1133
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 15: you know, deal with the nonsense that goes with every

1134
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 15: game if you're playing that position, and I think that

1135
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 15: that tends to produce some really good broadcasters.

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00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson was not franchise tagged yesterday, which brings to

1137
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: an end his tenure as a Cincinnati Bengal. To many,

1138
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: he'll go down as the best free agent signing that

1139
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 2: this organization has ever had. He put together some amazing seasons.

1140
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 2: Where do you turn now post Trey Hendrickson for this

1141
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: Bengals defense and what needs to be addressed in the offseason.

1142
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 15: Well, you've got thirty million to spend now, So that's good.

1143
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 15: Thirty million that you would have had to spend on

1144
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 15: Dre is now available to spend on others, and I

1145
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 15: think they are going to spend at all their seventh

1146
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 15: in available cap space, they don't and have to worry about,

1147
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 15: you know, mega deals for Jamar, for t and for Trey.

1148
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 4: They can use this.

1149
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 15: On defing up that defense, and that is what they

1150
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 15: are bound and determined to do. So I'm not sure

1151
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 15: if they are going to, you know, try to sign

1152
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 15: one of the best pass rushers or try to sign

1153
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 15: a couple that are you know, a slight tear down.

1154
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 15: I kind of favor the second strategy. I'm looking for

1155
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 15: depth and maybe get a potential star with the tenth pick.

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Speaker 8: In the draft.

1157
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 2: The tenth pick that that to me, is where this starts,

1158
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: and there should be a plethora of them available. Are

1159
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 2: you in the favor of best player available when it

1160
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 2: comes to number ten because there are so many needs

1161
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 2: it feels like that this team has on the defensive

1162
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: side of the ball. Are you just pro best player

1163
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 2: available at number ten?

1164
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 15: I am best player available on defense at number ten.

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00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 15: I do not want an offensive lineman. I do not

1166
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 15: want a tight end or something like that Jeremia player.

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01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 15: I love them, love them, but I don't want love

1168
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 15: at ten. I want defense. So I want the shortest

1169
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 15: armed defensive lineman that's available on the board at number ten,

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01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 15: and hopefully that guy is Ruben Bain.

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01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 4: Ruben Bain to me.

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01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 15: Is Terrell Suggs with slightly shorter arms. I think he

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01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 15: is going to be a Pro Bowl player, and I

1174
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 15: am hoping that enough teams are scared off by thirty

1175
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 15: and seven eighths that we are seeing him holding up

1176
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 15: a Bengals jersey the day after the first round of

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01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 15: the draft.

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Speaker 3: When you think of the combine as a whole, when

1179
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 3: you were there and talk to a bunch of different people,

1180
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 3: what was personally your biggest takeaway from maybe what the

1181
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 3: Bengals plan is for the draft as a whole, or

1182
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 3: maybe what their their thoughts are going into free agency.

1183
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 3: What was your biggest takeaway from everybody you talked to

1184
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 3: with the draft at the combine.

1185
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Speaker 15: I think the various experts that I talked to while

1186
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 15: while I was in in the kind of all agree

1187
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 15: that the Bengals offseason mission is pretty simple, and we

1188
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 15: know what it is. Just turn the defense into something

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01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 15: that's decent.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't have to be.

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Speaker 15: Top five, doesn't have to be Seattle as good as

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01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 15: this offense is. It just has to be decent. And

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01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 15: they've got the ships to do it. With the money

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01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 15: they have to spend and the tenth pick not only

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01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 15: a first round but basically in every round, they should

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Speaker 15: be able to add real talent to this defense. They've

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01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 15: got a few building blocks. The corners are good. I

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01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,439
Speaker 15: still believe in the potential of Shamar Stewart. I thought

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Speaker 15: before he got hurt in week one he was going

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Speaker 15: to have an excellent rookie year. Miles Murphy now looks

1201
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 15: like a potential building block. But they've got to add

1202
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 15: a lot of talent still, and they've got the chips

1203
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 15: to do it.

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01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 2: That is Dan Horde, the voice of the Bengals, the

1205
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 2: voice of the Cincinnati Bearcats. Dan, so much, appreciati of

1206
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 2: your time, enjoy this ride with the Cincinnati Bearcats, and

1207
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 2: I hope we're talking about this continuing for at least

1208
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 2: two or three more.

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01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 4: Thanks Dan, you bet, thanks for having me on.

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01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: Appreciate you. That is Dan Horde. This is since he

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Speaker 2: three sixty. By the way, as mentioned before, Pat Brennan

1212
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,919
Speaker 2: will join us at two o'clock. We'll try to get

1213
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 2: all things Hunter Green and Red's update from Goodyear. Pat

1214
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: Brennan is out there as well, so we got a

1215
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,479
Speaker 2: lot to take care of between now and then it'll

1216
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 2: start when we come back with your talkbacks on ESPN

1217
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1218
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 17: Hey, Alexa, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1219
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 4: It's that time for talkbacks.

1220
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 16: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin in tone.

1221
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 9: Please keep it clean, and don't they mean that a

1222
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 9: sprinkle sprinkle drip.

1223
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 10: Drifts drifts that time for talkbacks.

1224
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 16: It's our favorite tarter Sincy three sixty.

1225
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 10: So Austin, play those.

1226
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 16: Talkbacks on your screen at least riding out to sabotage.

1227
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Speaker 4: The Wednesday edition of talkbacks. What a lot?

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01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 2: I mean, college hoops last night, some big wins with Miami,

1229
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 2: and you see the Bengals and the Trey Hendrickson News,

1230
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 2: the Reds and the hundred. I mean, there's a lot

1231
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 2: to get into today. Let's see where the talkbacks take us.

1232
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 2: But honestly, Ton, I think you're burying the lead. Earlier today,

1233
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 2: you had the opportunity to meet one of the all

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01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 2: time greats. You shook the hand of Vinnie and Eastgate.

1235
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 4: I did. You got to meet him this morning? I did?

1236
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 4: What was that like for you?

1237
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 2: It was electric and like many of the talkbackers I've met,

1238
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: uh not someone I would have recognized to put a

1239
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: face with a name. If we're just gonna call it

1240
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 2: what it is, a face with a voice. Yes, yes, I.

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01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 18: Hate to sound like that perpetual optimistic Cincinnati Sports Fair.

1242
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 14: I'm saying we're carrying momentum in next year.

1243
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 18: Here, but man, I we all owe west Mellon apology.

1244
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 14: I'm sorry with I thought your ass was cooked.

1245
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 4: I thought you were done.

1246
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 18: But these guys have been playing for pride with pride,

1247
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 18: have brought pride back to the program, and I am

1248
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 18: excited to see with these next couple of games. I'm

1249
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 18: play and if we make the tournament, watch out now,

1250
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 18: watch out.

1251
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 4: There we go. I'm not moving the goalposts. Here we go.

1252
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 4: The goal post was always make the NCAA tournament. That's

1253
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 4: where the so.

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01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 19: So we're all clear, Hey, guys, Jeff and de rich

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01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 19: Man now Wednesday, Tunia, Marcus, You're absolutely right.

1256
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 20: I am jealous that Mitch Barnhardt is leaving on his own.

1257
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,439
Speaker 20: I wish the clown on this side of the river

1258
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 20: would do the same. He's done nothing for our university

1259
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 20: except for one thing he did. Put our boy Tony

1260
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 20: Pike in the UC Hall of Fame. But besides that,

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01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 20: he's been worthless.

1262
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 3: Honestly, Jeff, I'm going to take credit for Tony getting

1263
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame because I sent out the

1264
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 3: thing to all of his friends and family. Me and

1265
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 3: Maso carried that. Uh, I'm gonna take credit for that,

1266
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 3: So you'd take that off the leg about Cunningham. But

1267
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Jordan Bischell, I think is a

1268
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 3: good one.

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01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 14: It's Jeff back with the double hit.

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Speaker 20: Just a quick shout out to the Bearcats for their

1271
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 20: impressive win last night. Wes really does have them cook

1272
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 20: in right now. Shout out to Travis and Miami as well.

1273
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 20: They survived. That's that's what they do. So you guys

1274
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 20: have a great day.

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01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:44,919
Speaker 4: Take care all right.

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01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 21: It's the Lord. Great win by UC last night. But

1277
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 21: does this remind you of something.

1278
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 4: Pretty much every sports season I watched a couple of

1279
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 4: years ago.

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Speaker 21: We're making a push to go to the playoffs. He

1281
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 21: had to in their final game and have some other

1282
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 21: teams lose. It seems like we're on that same path

1283
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 21: with UC, where they have to win all their games

1284
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 21: and some of the games in their conference. Tournament.

1285
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 2: Yes, this is essentially every Red season where I talk

1286
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 2: about a big weekend coming up, or if they sweep

1287
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 2: and they can get to a certain spot, or if

1288
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: the playoff odds are still out there for the Bengals.

1289
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 2: Every sports season in Cincinnati. I talked myself into the

1290
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 2: same thing.

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01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 16: Hello, this is former president Ronald Reagan. And well, I

1292
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 16: heard a great song this morning on WBOB that's eighty

1293
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 16: point eight FM. Oh it wins something like this, no

1294
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 16: no no no no no na na hey, hey Trey, goodbye?

1295
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 4: No nonaa okad.

1296
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 22: No no no, no, no, hey Trey.

1297
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 3: You think Trey was listen to that when he posted

1298
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 3: on his Instagram story on his way back to Florida.

1299
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 2: Nah, he was changing the font size. That was one

1300
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 2: of my favorite trade twelve No, make this fun a

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01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 2: sense o.

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Speaker 23: Guys, Big Cahona and Kentucky. With the Bengals signing Risoner

1303
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 23: to the one year deal, I would have liked to

1304
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 23: see him lock enough for two with the team often

1305
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 23: they could cut him. But they got me thinking about

1306
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 23: the Reds. Why did they not signed JJ? But they

1307
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 23: like a three year deal. You know, I think he's

1308
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 23: getting one for four right now. They should already have

1309
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 23: him locked up for three for like twenty one. You

1310
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 23: know even next year you're going to have to strike season.

1311
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 4: But you can't let this.

1312
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 23: Guy get out of under team control. I wonder why

1313
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 23: they hadn't went on and extended him early.

1314
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 3: See, this is when I think he's a troll because

1315
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 3: he purposely said his name wrong. Yeah, and then has

1316
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 3: it take that asinine?

1317
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 4: Yep?

1318
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 24: Come on, this is the Cincinnati Resider talking about here.

1319
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 24: Did we not really see this coming? We knew something

1320
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 24: was going to drop eventually. Besides, everybody was up in

1321
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 24: arms and one of the right handed bats we got Geno. Well,

1322
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 24: we had to sell the MRI machine. That's that's the

1323
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 24: way ghost guys can't have it.

1324
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 4: Both good point, we don't have that anymore and sell

1325
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 4: our soul.

1326
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 3: But I did, unfortunately, eight days ago over text, predict

1327
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 3: that this was going to happen to a Red that

1328
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 3: they would blow their arm out. Now, hopefully it's not

1329
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 3: that serious, and hopefully I am wrong. But we're always

1330
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 3: waiting for your prediction that you want to be right.

1331
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 14: On, Tony Pike.

1332
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 4: Do you eat eggs like.

1333
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 25: You know, chicken eggs, like scrambled eggs eggs, poached eggs,

1334
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 25: like do you eat eggs and egg capacity because in

1335
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 25: my opinion, like picky eaters, it's kind of a toss

1336
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 25: up with it and you eat eggs or not but

1337
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 25: ketchup on them.

1338
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 4: Or something like that. So just curious about that. Tells

1339
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,799
Speaker 4: me a lot about who you are as a person.

1340
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 4: Scrambled eggs only but no ketchup.

1341
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 3: If you have someone in your life that puts ketchup

1342
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 3: on their eggs, you need to remove that person from

1343
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 3: your life. That's why I don't talk to my uncle

1344
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 3: Tom anymore.

1345
01:08:54,880 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 26: Also, you you watch NASCAR on TV, so you're watching

1346
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,879
Speaker 26: a lot of left turns, a lot of left turns.

1347
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot last week. Where's the enjoyment out

1348
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 4: of that?

1349
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 7: Or is it just something to watch here in February

1350
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 7: and March test question?

1351
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 4: I'm not judging.

1352
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, there's you know, every track is a little

1353
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 3: bit different. There's different factors that come with each track,

1354
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 3: and guys are starting a different position, and there's teammates

1355
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 3: and there's guys working together. And in NASCAR there's stages.

1356
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 3: They don't just line up and go two hundred laps anymore.

1357
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 3: You've got stage one you've got stage two. There are

1358
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 3: points that are at stake based off the stages. There's

1359
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 3: a lot going on, and part of it is it

1360
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 3: is something to watch. It's a great napping uh sport

1361
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 3: to watch. And also the like this is the last

1362
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 3: month where I have Sunday afternoons before I got to

1363
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 3: start working during the summer on Sunday afternoons. So golf

1364
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:56,799
Speaker 3: and NASCAR and napping on Sunday afternoons are the best work.

1365
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 27: Smarter, not harder, Tony. You being a former athlete, you know,

1366
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 27: bone spurs they're like a nagging toothache, and if you

1367
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 27: don't get them out of there, it's a constant pain.

1368
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 27: Why get a court of zone shot when they could

1369
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 27: have gotten him out earlier, you know, in.

1370
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 4: The fall and he would have had all year to rest.

1371
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 27: Now they're pressured to get them ready. It's just senseless

1372
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 27: that it has to come to this point again.

1373
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and the other thing is like, okay,

1374
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 2: so you just try to treat it with more courtizone

1375
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 2: or shots or do you get it fit?

1376
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it can't bode well on any end.

1377
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 4: Austin Tony Cino from NK. Why what up Hunter Green Austin.

1378
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 28: I agree about the timeline, piss poor management typical of

1379
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 28: Nick Krawl, Duke Tobin and the rest of him. I

1380
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 28: wish him the best, but this is every year for

1381
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,040
Speaker 28: this guy. I hate to say I told her so.

1382
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 3: Should have traded in Tobin getching a stray.

1383
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 29: I have a question for you, Tony.

1384
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 4: When you were yeah, what were you about to say?

1385
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 2: I was getting I got more info to send out

1386
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 2: a couple of text to doctors that I know about

1387
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 2: bone spurs and the elbow. Yeah, we reached out to

1388
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 2: Glen at all. I'm not if it is the surgery route.

1389
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 2: It is an invasive surgery, but you're not back to

1390
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 2: competition for three to four months. Okay, if you're not operating,

1391
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 2: you're trying medicine, rest rehab to improve it.

1392
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 4: But that's for bone spurs.

1393
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, with that kind of would make sense with

1394
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 3: what Hunter said, back for the playoff push three to

1395
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 3: four months.

1396
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 4: I have a question for you, Tony.

1397
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 29: When you were playing for the Panthers and you were injured,

1398
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 29: did you recommend like I want an MRI. I want

1399
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 29: one to find out what's going on if I need

1400
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 29: surgery so I can train and be ready for whether

1401
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 29: it's next season or whatever. And you have to be

1402
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 29: your best epic, your own advocate, instead of just always

1403
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 29: relying on what the professional medical professionals are saying. You

1404
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 29: know your body and I just maybe he did. I

1405
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 29: don't know sources, but it's ridiculous that we're at this point.

1406
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, my surgery was not handled correctly. Should we do

1407
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,799
Speaker 4: an hour three year story.

1408
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1409
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 4: We tell it once a year.

1410
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 2: We got pat today and we've got a lot of

1411
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 2: college troops. It might be a tomorrow or Friday, but

1412
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 2: we will get to it. But I will say that

1413
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 2: at least for imaging, the team is usually I mean

1414
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 2: that's usually, like Austin mentioned, it's not like you've got

1415
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 2: to schedule it somewhere, drive there, you have it in

1416
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 2: the facility. The imaging shouldn't be.

1417
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 3: The hard part of the imaging is like is like

1418
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 3: putting the keys in the ignition before we start the car.

1419
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 2: Now, where you do get a little bit dicey is

1420
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 2: after the imaging. Then you get into the point of Okay,

1421
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 2: here's what's happening. These are the options, and then maybe

1422
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 2: you disagree on the options. But the imaging should be

1423
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 2: the layup. That's the easy part.

1424
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 30: Yeah, I blame this one one, Hunter Green, not the threads.

1425
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 30: I think he's the one driving this bus on Kalayan

1426
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 30: scans and things like that. He saw him in the

1427
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 30: interview with Fox nineteen blaming the media for saying he

1428
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 30: was dragging his feet coming back, and I think he is.

1429
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 4: He is him. He's a head case.

1430
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 31: Back in the nineteen seventies, the Reds had a picture

1431
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 31: named Don Gullet who was one of the best in

1432
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 31: the league, but he could not stay healthy. And I

1433
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,440
Speaker 31: think Hunter Green is starting to look like this generation's

1434
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 31: Don Gullet.

1435
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 5: Man.

1436
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 31: When this guy is healthy, he can put the team

1437
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 31: on his back, but taking the mound has been a problem.

1438
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 31: So I wish him well going forward. I hope the

1439
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 31: Reds training staff know what they're doing. I'm not so sure.

1440
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 31: Good well, Hunter.

1441
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 32: Red's doctors remind me of my dad.

1442
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 4: Growing up.

1443
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 32: As a kid, I'd say something like, Dad, my elbow

1444
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 32: hurts when I bend it that way, and he'd say,

1445
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 32: stop bending it that way. Never actually fixed the problem.

1446
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 32: Every year at something good point.

1447
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I used to say, don't do that. Then I

1448
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 4: was a kid.

1449
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 3: I used to say I had a headache, and my

1450
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 3: dad would say if I had a head that looked

1451
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:10,759
Speaker 3: like that.

1452
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 33: I don't know why I wouldn't they. Hey, Audie, I

1453
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,799
Speaker 33: never get sick. I haven't been sick in three years,

1454
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 33: but this week I am sick. So whatever's going around. Hey,

1455
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 33: that's not why I called. My question is if I

1456
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:32,799
Speaker 33: don't have time to watch an entire baseball game, when's

1457
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 33: the best What inning is the best time to jump

1458
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 33: in and start watching the game, like the fifth inning,

1459
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 33: seventh inning.

1460
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 4: That's one of the dumbest questions I've ever heard.

1461
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:49,440
Speaker 34: Yeah, Aflas, it's Jack Everncacco, So I'm an avid University

1462
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 34: of Miami hater. Oh, but if they go and defeated

1463
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,879
Speaker 34: in the regular season, I think they should make the tournament.

1464
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 4: But here's what I think will happen if they don't

1465
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 4: win the BAC.

1466
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 34: I think the selection committee keeps them out and then

1467
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 34: six months later turns around and talk about how the

1468
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 34: tournament needs expanded and teams like Miami should not be

1469
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 34: left out in the future. If Miami loses, I think

1470
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 34: it just turns into a ploy to expand the tournament.

1471
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I've been saying that goes along with

1472
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 2: Austin's theory.

1473
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 35: Huge win last night, but my gosh, those refs were

1474
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 35: terrible and they knew they were bad because both coaches

1475
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 35: probably should have got teed up.

1476
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 4: Brick Harris, he probably should have got teed up. And Tony.

1477
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 4: What's with Kerk chrisa hugging.

1478
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 35: And loving on that one ref in the pregames and

1479
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 35: whenever there was a timeout.

1480
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what has kind of

1481
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 2: happened with Kerk cries. I also thought it was unique

1482
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 2: that Sewna Bive hurt his Ankland warm ups last night.

1483
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 4: No, that's not ideal either. Did I hear that Chad

1484
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 4: Brindle was wearing out the refs? Yeah? I think Chad

1485
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 4: Brendle was letting him hear it last night till that's

1486
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 4: not very professional.

1487
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 36: Hey, guys, Marcus and the Groove after watching that sad

1488
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 36: excuse of a basketball game last night, these twenty two

1489
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 36: Eric Milton days away from Opening Day can't come fast enough.

1490
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:15,919
Speaker 36: Just just a sad excuse.

1491
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen a team go from

1492
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 2: up ten to down twelve that click.

1493
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 3: Marcus, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Eric Milton

1494
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 3: once hit a triple at Wrigley Field. You look at that.

1495
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 3: Look that up for me. And also I feel bad

1496
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 3: for Marcus. What's going on with Kentucky and now Hunter

1497
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 3: Green and the tough day for Marcus.

1498
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 8: Happy Wednesday, telib I'm with you guys here.

1499
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 37: I mean, these people in the ESPN television are just

1500
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 37: ridiculous and times.

1501
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 5: I think they got more clients employed there than marnin Bay.

1502
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 5: Does we know how Mark does this?

1503
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 37: Nothing new here? Yeah, they're moving on from trade. They're

1504
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 37: not going to tag him.

1505
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 5: I'm okay with that.

1506
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 37: Sometimes you just need a clean breapeout that said, go

1507
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 37: take that thirty million and testing the two or three

1508
01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 37: more players. That's gonna help you out of even take care.

1509
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 13: Here we go Miami red Hawks, not the Redskins, because

1510
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 13: I wouldn't be culturally appropriate. Miami, Ohio is thirty and

1511
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 13: oh miay oh.

1512
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 3: It, whoa, that's my guy, Richard Man. We haven't heard

1513
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 3: from Richard in a while, and that's that's the comeback.

1514
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 3: I love Richard.

1515
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 14: Steven Asmith sucks, but he's right about the organization.

1516
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 10: You're right.

1517
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 38: Until they change and make the right picks that will

1518
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 38: be the reputation, and that reputation is there for a

1519
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 38: good reason.

1520
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:44,719
Speaker 14: They're pinching pennies and losing dollars.

1521
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 38: They're playing checkers hell maybe candy Land, while the rest

1522
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 38: of the league plays chess.

1523
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 14: But they think they're playing chess. That's the problem.

1524
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 38: Not properly signing or trading, trade, waiting on Jamar his

1525
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 38: price going up, Palmer, Jesse, Base, et cetera. Add that

1526
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 38: to D minus level drafting. It's dumpster fire ownership. Keep

1527
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 38: holding them to the fire. You know someone's listening.

1528
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 39: Mm I was really down on you see when the

1529
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 39: year started. I'll tell you they have come a long way.

1530
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 39: That looked so good last night BYU since their second

1531
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 39: best player got hurt, they're simply not that good. And

1532
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 39: they're said they should be a seventh seed.

1533
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 4: No way.

1534
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 39: And then I'll tell you the one problem maybe is

1535
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 39: the horned Frogs have been playing really good lately too.

1536
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 4: Yeah they have. Yeah, well I know what he was

1537
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 4: listening to. But I like that. Yeah, oh yeah, it's

1538
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 4: about that time. Still cats strutting, rapping the city out

1539
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 4: here in sunny hot Zona. What up to buy?

1540
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 17: Bart Got's on fire? Wes, You're trying to say your job.

1541
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 17: You might be doing you might be doing the doal

1542
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 17: my g oh Man, that BTA is b yu felt

1543
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 17: good last night. I enjoyed watching that game. Yo can

1544
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 17: bar win against TCU getting to the turn him and

1545
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 17: steal two. Dream match against UCLA up in Dayton.

1546
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 4: That's what I want to see. Why not?

1547
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 3: Okay, did you imagine UCLA having to fly all the

1548
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 3: way to Dayton?

1549
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 4: Oh? Well, not be good.

1550
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 3: That would infuriate O. Uh would not be good for

1551
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 3: Mick Kyler Murray. I mean, uh, wown.

1552
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 2: Tell you what you want to talk about? An impressive window.

1553
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 2: Last night, Ucla did the top ten Nebraska come Oi

1554
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:25,480
Speaker 2: Burg Bum.

1555
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 5: Boys, Lonnie from Saint Louis.

1556
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 8: Hey, I was podcasting.

1557
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 22: This show like the Dickens yesterday and I heard Austin

1558
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 22: say that he's coming to Saint Louis see the Reds

1559
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 22: one weekend this summer.

1560
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 8: Austin, let me know when you're coming.

1561
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 5: I'll meet you.

1562
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 37: I'll buy you a beer, hey, and maybe I can

1563
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 37: get you some of my company seats behind home plays.

1564
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:50,600
Speaker 3: Wow boys, Lonnie, I got a big group coming. I

1565
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 3: don't know if we can get behind Home place. Stop

1566
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 3: the press. I'll keep your post it ear lone.

1567
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 14: Hi guys.

1568
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 9: This weekend my band played at the Red Bar for

1569
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 9: a fundraiser for the Multiple Sclerosis Society, and one of

1570
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 9: the attendees was the Great Dan Hoarde. He also put

1571
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 9: himself up for auction in the Bidden Buy to play

1572
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 9: eighteen holes with and before I went on for my

1573
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 9: last set, the high bid was seventeen hundred dollars.

1574
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 15: I wow.

1575
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 9: It was close to two grand before it was done.

1576
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 9: So he's not only a great announcer, he's also a philanthropy.

1577
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 4: No wonder.

1578
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 3: I can never get Dan on the golf course. I

1579
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 3: can't afford. It's gonna say, you gotta pay quite a

1580
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 3: bit to golf with Dan. I think Dan's a I

1581
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 3: don't know, but I'm pretty sure he's a pretty good golfer, Yes,

1582
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 3: isn't he?

1583
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 4: Yes he is.

1584
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 1: Hey guys one lounging on the beach and started just that,

1585
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: I'd say, Hi, thanks.

1586
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well it's sixty degrees and beautiful here, so you

1587
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 3: know I was thinking by that, I mean it's raining.

1588
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 2: If you're paying that to golf with Dan. The golf

1589
01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 2: is secondary, right you. I mentioned the stories that you're

1590
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: going to get in a round of eighteen holes with

1591
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 2: Dan Horde.

1592
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 4: He's an awesome human being. Yep.

1593
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 3: An elite of the elite broadcaster, first team, all storyteller, yep.

1594
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,759
Speaker 3: Really good golfer. Some guys just are the complete package.

1595
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:21,919
Speaker 4: I didn't even wait, what are we talking about.

1596
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 8: Again, Hey, Tony, I'm a little confused on this.

1597
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 11: Maybe you can help me out.

1598
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 40: So you get a quarterzone shot to reduce inflammation, reduce swelling,

1599
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 40: reduce the pain if.

1600
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 37: You have bone spurs.

1601
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:40,719
Speaker 8: That's causing the inflammation. Yeah, what is a quartersone shot

1602
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 8: going to do for you in a long term?

1603
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 4: Long term?

1604
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 8: Is going why we went that route in the first place.

1605
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 2: My understanding is all the courter zone is doing is

1606
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 2: delaying what the inevitable is.

1607
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 3: I want to know invitable right now. I want to

1608
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 3: know what the injection was. There's nothing that says it

1609
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 3: was courtizone. I think that's we're assuming that, like gonna

1610
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,440
Speaker 3: need one every five days.

1611
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 4: Been there.

1612
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 22: It's the paintball Guru here, and I'm reporting live from

1613
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:12,799
Speaker 22: Cincinnati ridg's medical headquarters, where I've just spoken to doctor

1614
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 22: Funstone and doctor Rubble, who say, don't worry about bone sporters.

1615
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 22: We're gonna let Dino handle it. Oh my keep a

1616
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 22: stay quiet in truth. See ya jump on jumb On Guru.

1617
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 40: Correct me if I'm wrong. I tried chat gpt in

1618
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 40: to see how we could get a third round com.

1619
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 9: Pick for Trey Hendrickson.

1620
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 40: The biggest takeaway was that everything was in line for

1621
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,759
Speaker 40: us to get it as long as we didn't sign

1622
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 40: a free agent who played a similar position at a

1623
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:51,879
Speaker 40: similar value.

1624
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 4: Is that correct? It's along those lines, a certain number

1625
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 4: of free agents and a certain financial It meant something

1626
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 4: along those lines. I'll get the official definition. They're gonna

1627
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 4: have to get a position, a position player at that professional.

1628
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 26: Austin professional and Chad Brendell don't go in the same sentence.

1629
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 4: Why is that a surprise? If you if you notice,

1630
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 4: I wasn't surprised.

1631
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 33: Wait, how come that can be the dumbest question ever?

1632
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 33: Like I'm talking TV. If the Reds game is on

1633
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 33: in the background, you know, when do I sit down

1634
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:35,839
Speaker 33: on the couch and really pay attention?

1635
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 4: Fifth and a sixth inning, seventh inning? How come that's stupid?

1636
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 4: I don't pissing me off. You gotta start watching at

1637
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,640
Speaker 4: the start. Every single pitch is Game seven of the

1638
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 4: World Series.

1639
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 22: Mister Paintbaul Guru here and I am reporting.

1640
01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 4: My yeah, we just got that one. Thank you, Austin Cony.

1641
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 41: It's bopping Bill out here and shunny hot Berkeley. Has

1642
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 41: there ever been a better team than the Bear catch

1643
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,799
Speaker 41: watch out, big man. I don't know where you're from,

1644
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 41: but the rain is dropping from the top of the key.

1645
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 13: Foul down.

1646
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 4: Good to hear from Bill, Bob and Bill. All right,

1647
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 4: we're done, very good.

1648
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 2: Uh one segment. When we return, we'll get to our

1649
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 2: number three. We'll wrap our number two. We've got some

1650
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 2: phone calls we'll grab at the top of our three

1651
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 2: as well. We'll get into college basketball. But before any

1652
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 2: of that, Pat Brennan will join us and we'll try

1653
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 2: to get a little bit more understanding. Is what's going

1654
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,600
Speaker 2: on with Hunter Green? From Pat Brennan. That starts at

1655
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 2: two o'clock. It's since he three to sixty on ESPN

1656
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1657
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 42: Moeger here, if you're a Cincinnati sports fan, talk.

1658
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 2: About get it at sinty three sixty honyspon fifteen thirty

1659
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. Before we get to our latest Reds

1660
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 2: countdown here, how about this Austin it's Wednesday, which means

1661
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 2: we were fed today. That's always a good thing here

1662
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 2: at iHeart today as we have been treated over the

1663
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 2: last couple of Wednesdays by our friends at Dorothy Lane Market.

1664
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 2: We've had pretty much everything. We've had the sweet side

1665
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:31,759
Speaker 2: of things. We had the bacon Day. You remember bacon

1666
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 2: with bacon wraps? Was it bacon rap sushi? Yeah, dude,

1667
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:39,759
Speaker 2: I'm still thinking about it. I mean, they've had cinnamon rolls.

1668
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,759
Speaker 2: We've had literal feast here at our disposal. And today

1669
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 2: they went the old smoked route on us. Yep, they're

1670
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 2: smoked line of meats. It's smoked right here at Dorothy

1671
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 2: Lane Market by their pit masters.

1672
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 4: Of course they have pit masters. They have everything.

1673
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 5: Yep.

1674
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 4: They said they have hundreds of pounds of chicken wings

1675
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 4: smoked right there by the full time operation that is

1676
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 4: the Dorothy Lane Market pit masters today pulled chicken. Oh

1677
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 4: my gosh, they smoke it right here.

1678
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 3: They had a sweet and smoky barbecue sauce. Yep, change your.

1679
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 2: Life, Southern style green beans. They had a mac and cheese. Now,

1680
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 2: I like mac and cheese. You want to take it

1681
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 2: to the next level and crust it. Oh, encrusted mac

1682
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 2: and cheese. I have a confession to make. Yeah, I

1683
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 2: had two servings of the macaroni. The mac and cheese

1684
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 2: was fantastic. I went back for seconds. They had a

1685
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 2: homestyle coleslaw and I'm about to just wrap it up.

1686
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 2: Austin Graandma's Tobias apple Pie. Yeah, Tobias apple Pie is good.

1687
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 2: You throw Gramma in front of it. Sign sealed delivery of.

1688
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 3: All the stuff we had today. The people would not

1689
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 3: stop talking about the apple pie. No, and multiple people

1690
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 3: come in and say, Hey, did you get some of

1691
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 3: that apple pie? That's the best I've ever had?

1692
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 5: Yep.

1693
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 4: Dorothy Lane Market, man, they just get it.

1694
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 2: Thanks to our friends at Dorothy Lane Market today and

1695
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 2: each Wednesday that we've had a chance, I might to

1696
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 2: sample what they've got going on.

1697
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 4: I have to go see if there's any more that

1698
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 4: can we throw in a couple extra breaks and just

1699
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 4: get the commercial? Now, I'm all with that.

1700
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 2: Should we talk about twenty two short days away from

1701
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 2: opening day for the Cincinnati Reds. As we've been doing

1702
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 2: this countdown, we've highlighted some of the the legends of

1703
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:27,839
Speaker 2: past years of Yesteryear for the Reds to don those numbers.

1704
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 2: And how about the number twenty two? You think of

1705
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 2: Luke Mayley? No, I don't you think of Wade Miley

1706
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 2: and that junk that he's throwing up there at the play.

1707
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:42,719
Speaker 4: No hitter, Wade Miley in Cleveland throwing that cheese up there?

1708
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 4: What about the dude Wade Miley right now?

1709
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,600
Speaker 3: He might have an elbow better in better shape than

1710
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 3: Hunter Green, but he could strike you out right now,

1711
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 3: And I doubt he's throwing a baseball.

1712
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 2: We're not going to do that. We are not going

1713
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:56,719
Speaker 2: down that path right now. We'll just keep it going

1714
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 2: to other number twenty two for the Reds. How about

1715
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:00,759
Speaker 2: a day that a name the kind of matches today

1716
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 2: Brandon Drewery.

1717
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 3: Oh didn't he lead the Reds and homers? Then they

1718
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 3: traded him and then he led both teams in homers.

1719
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 3: How about that that he played for that year? Yeah,

1720
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 3: that guy just gets it. Brandon Drury, He's the Dorothy

1721
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 3: Lane market of Wow. Well said he fell off after

1722
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 3: that year, though we mentioned the great Derek Dietrich. What

1723
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 3: about Billy Hatcher Billy Hatcher Man one of my all

1724
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 3: time favorites and favorite quirky Miller. Of course, Don the

1725
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 3: number twenty two. How about Tony Gonzales the Hall of

1726
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 3: Fame tight end back in nineteen sixty war number twenty two.

1727
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 3: Don't forget about Tony. Oh, that's a different Tony Gonzales.

1728
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 3: Never mind.

1729
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,799
Speaker 4: What about Dan Dreesen, Dan.

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Speaker 3: Dreesen, mel Queen, Wally Berger on Hell, Bravo, Benny Frye,

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Speaker 3: you start getting back into the the old days, go

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Speaker 3: back to nineteen thirty two? Is that what you're thinking of?

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Speaker 3: I was thinking casper As burgions As Borge Andsen. What

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01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 3: about Harry McCurdy, of course, yeah, over there at Ben

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01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 3: Olvers and the Jets. Fry of course. What about Jimmy Ripple,

1736
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 3: old man Ripple himself. That boy was nasty, that slider

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01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 3: back in. You know it's nineteen forty world champion Jimmy Ripple.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about, Well, we're getting ready to go to

1739
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 2: Pat Brennan, who's in Goodyear. Do you think they talk

1740
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 2: at all in their spring training meetings at all about

1741
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 2: what Jimmy Ripple brought to the table.

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01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 3: I figure it's either him or Willard Marshall. That Willowy

1743
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 3: dominates the conversation. Yeah, you know he was from Norwood. Oh, Norwood,

1744
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 3: New Jersey. How about that went to wake Forest Old

1745
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 3: Willard Okay, yes he.

1746
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 2: Willard Brady Clark, Rubin Sierra, Patterson for a year. He

1747
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 2: had a twenty year major League baseball career, did Rubin Sierra,

1748
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 2: including a Hunter Green like stint here in Cincinnati twenty

1749
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 2: five games, two home runs in nineteen ninety seven. Wow,

1750
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 2: Ruben Sierra had a couple of years. You had a

1751
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 2: twenty nine home run year, thirty home run year with

1752
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 2: the Rangers. Good for Reuben Sierra, Good for the Cincinnati Reds.

1753
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 2: We are just twenty two short days away from opening day,

1754
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:23,799
Speaker 2: which makes today's news about Hunter Green even more worrisome.

1755
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 2: Let's try to make more sense of this when we

1756
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 2: get back. We'll kick off our number three with Pat Brennan.

1757
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 2: We've got to talk a lot about college hoops and

1758
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 2: your phone calls as well. All coming up in the

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Speaker 2: final hour of Cincy three to sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 10: From the X sign heating.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike since e three sixty about Cincinnati

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01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: It is our number three since E three sixty ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati sports station, The Green News. Today, if

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01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 2: you missed it, he is going to be meeting with

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01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 2: doctor Timothy Kremchek and on Monday doctor Neil Elatrosh to

1769
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,639
Speaker 2: talk about stiffness in the right elbow. As of now,

1770
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 2: he's talked at the ucl AS Intact that that's not

1771
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 2: an issue, but it has brought up a lot of

1772
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 2: questions around this process and what's going to be happening

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Speaker 2: going forward with Hunter Green and the Cincinnati read So

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01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 2: let's talk to someone who's got boots on the ground

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01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 2: right now. Austin in Goodyear, Arizona working for the Cincinnati Inquire,

1776
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 2: nice enough to give us some time right now, Pat Brennan, Pat,

1777
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 2: what's going on?

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01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 5: Hey? Guys? How you doing?

1779
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 4: Talk about this day a little bit?

1780
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 2: Because we saw Hunter Green last year not his best,

1781
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 2: doubting in the final outing of the year, his first

1782
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,759
Speaker 2: spring training out in this year did not go as planned,

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01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 2: and now we get this about the elbow stiffness, about

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01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 2: getting the treatment of the options looked at. What do

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01:31:57,920 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 2: we know at this point about Hunter Green?

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01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 5: Well, we know what they're calling. What the Reds are

1787
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 5: calling this situation.

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01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 11: I don't even know if I want to call it

1789
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 11: an injury yet because they aren't.

1790
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 5: But it's it's right elbow stiffness.

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01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 11: Obviously, that's his throwing elbow, and it's something he's been

1792
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 11: dealing with. Hunter told us this morning for the last

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01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 11: five or six starts of the regular season last year.

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01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 11: Then I'm not sure if he includes in that the

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01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 11: postseason start, but obviously that would have been part of it,

1796
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:37,719
Speaker 11: given the timeline he went.

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Speaker 5: Into the off season.

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Speaker 11: As he described it, the discomfort that whatever discomfort he

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01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 11: was dealing with seemed to dissipate after he'd been managing it,

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Speaker 11: and then basically showed up to spring training this year

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01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:56,520
Speaker 11: and it pops back up on him about a week before.

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01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 5: Spring training actually, and he's been managing it.

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01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,679
Speaker 11: Woke up yesterday, was scheduled to throw a side bullpen session,

1804
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:06,679
Speaker 11: and the stiffness was such that when he woke up,

1805
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,719
Speaker 11: he reported that to the Reds and at this point

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Speaker 11: they decided.

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Speaker 5: That they need to knock this out, whatever it is.

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01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 11: And like you said, he's gonna go see Kremcheck and

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Speaker 11: Ella Trash and get an MRI done in Cincinnati later

1810
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Speaker 11: this week.

1811
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 3: When did the Reds first find out about this. Was

1812
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 3: it when he woke up to throw yesterday or was

1813
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:30,679
Speaker 3: it last season?

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01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 5: That's a good question.

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01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 11: I don't I don't think I know the full timeline there.

1816
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 11: What Nick Krawl said today as he was addressing the

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01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:52,600
Speaker 11: media was that there hadn't been a major deviation in

1818
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 11: how Hunter had been feeling, including his first start of

1819
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 11: the spring last week.

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Speaker 5: It really wasn't until.

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Speaker 11: Yesterday morning when Hunter woke up and reported this to

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01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 11: the Reds that he conveyed that it was I guess

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01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 11: something more than he had been experiencing. It's hard for

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Speaker 11: me to imagine the Reds would not have been aware

1825
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 11: of this last season, But I want to be clear,

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Speaker 11: I don't know that to a fact.

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Speaker 2: And that's the hard part too, because if it was

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Speaker 2: aware to the Reds, then the question would be why

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01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 2: not just get the imaging done and proactively try to

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Speaker 2: take care of it once the offseason hit. I know

1831
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 2: that the discomfort escorting to Hunter Green went away, but still,

1832
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 2: with his injury history, would it not maybe be more

1833
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 2: advantageous to at least get some imaging done and see

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Speaker 2: if there was something more there?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean you would think so. I mean, the

1836
01:34:55,160 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 11: Reds were very careful today. Sure, really not getting out

1837
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 11: ahead of this other than I think eventually Terry Francona

1838
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 11: conceded that when you look at where we are in

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Speaker 11: the calendar, and we're you know, tomorrow marks three weeks

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01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 11: until opening day, the math doesn't really add up in

1841
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 11: terms of Hunter Green being available for opening day, although

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01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 11: he was probably going to be the opening day picture,

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01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 11: although he had not been informed of that yet, but

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01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 11: just in terms of being available on time to make

1845
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,680
Speaker 11: his first scheduled start whenever that would have been. The

1846
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 11: math is not in Hunter's favor now because he's not

1847
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 11: going to throw for the rest of this week.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, again, like if there was an issue of forthrightness.

1849
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Speaker 11: On Hunter's part, and I don't know that there was,

1850
01:35:55,240 --> 01:36:00,160
Speaker 11: you know, maybe maybe there was a disconnecting communication along

1851
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 11: the line at some point. I also don't know that

1852
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,599
Speaker 11: to be a fact either, but I agree with you

1853
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 11: if there was any concern going into this offseason, you

1854
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 11: would think it would have been wise to knock that

1855
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:14,639
Speaker 11: out at that time, even if it did dissipate.

1856
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 3: Sure, he said earlier today Pat that he knows he

1857
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 3: has bone spurs and that as of now there is

1858
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 3: no UCL damage. Do we know how he knows that information?

1859
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 3: Was there a previous MRI. How did they get to

1860
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 3: the point where they know that the bone spurs are

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01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:33,599
Speaker 3: there and the UCL is intact?

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01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 5: Oh geez, I don't like the sound of this interview

1863
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 5: so far. Again, I don't know.

1864
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 11: I don't know, I will say, I mean, look, these

1865
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 11: guys have their entrance physicals, they get poked and product

1866
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 11: ahead of a lot. Probably I feel comfortable saying that

1867
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 11: at least that much. You know that poked in product

1868
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 11: more than we do as non athletes. So it's it's

1869
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 11: not it's not totally shocking to me that he would

1870
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 11: be aware of those things. But again, how that how

1871
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 11: that jives with what to me certainly was a relatively

1872
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 11: sudden revelation this morning is is uh, you know, it's

1873
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:21,440
Speaker 11: a little disconcerting and a little a little confusing.

1874
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 2: I looked at at how the Reds have gone about

1875
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 2: this and how you have outlined about you know, what

1876
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 2: they're saying or what they're not saying. I thought it

1877
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,719
Speaker 2: was interesting what Hunter Green though had to say about

1878
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 2: you know, if something has to be done surgically, he

1879
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:38,480
Speaker 2: used the term getting it out of the way and

1880
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 2: and have a big chunk of the season, or if

1881
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 2: we have a playoff push, I'll be ready to go.

1882
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 2: Does that become concerning it all off? Hunter talking about

1883
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 2: that sense of a big chunk of the season or

1884
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:52,679
Speaker 2: being ready for a playoff push when the season hasn't

1885
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 2: even gotten underway yet.

1886
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 15: Uh.

1887
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'd say so, just because Hunter is he's really

1888
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 11: polished in interview settings. He's I feel like he's had

1889
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 11: a lot of training there, and every word I feel

1890
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 11: like he is meaningful. Every word is calculated. So you know,

1891
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 11: nothing he says is ever a throwaway. And and you

1892
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 11: can infer from what he said today that at least

1893
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 11: part of his mindset is there in those areas that

1894
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:33,759
Speaker 11: you just mentioned. So and you know, you could also

1895
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 11: infer from that in maybe a little bit of the

1896
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 11: opposite direction, that maybe he's just being professional and realistic

1897
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 11: about what the what the possibilities are here. He at

1898
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 11: one point he noted correctly that he is not a doctor.

1899
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 11: He doesn't he himself doesn't know how all of all

1900
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 11: of the facts as he understood them today go together

1901
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 11: and how that's going to impact, you know, the final

1902
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 11: opinions that he gets from Kremcheck and La Trash. So

1903
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 11: there's just there's a little bit of a waiting game

1904
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 11: element to this, other than, like I said, Terry Francona

1905
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:23,600
Speaker 11: did kind of, you know, acknowledge that the math is

1906
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 11: not in Hunter's favor in terms of making that first

1907
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 11: scheduled start.

1908
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 2: If if it is a substantial amount of time. Let's

1909
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:32,759
Speaker 2: talk about what this means for the rest of the roster,

1910
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 2: because Hunter even alluded to it. They do have depth

1911
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:37,679
Speaker 2: at the starting pitcher a role. How do you think

1912
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:40,679
Speaker 2: that that fills out now in the absence, however long

1913
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 2: that may be, of Hunter Green.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well I think this is they're about.

1915
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 11: Look, I don't think any team in MLB is well

1916
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 11: situated to part with you know, one hundred mile per

1917
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 11: hour fireballer who figures, you know, if and when he

1918
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Speaker 11: can stay healthy, figures to be in any Cy Young

1919
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 11: Award conversation in any given year.

1920
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Speaker 5: This is the top end ace type guy. You don't

1921
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 5: want to lose that guy.

1922
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:15,760
Speaker 11: But I do know the Reds love their depth at

1923
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 11: starting pitching, and as I see it, they're about as

1924
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 11: well situated as you possibly could be to And I

1925
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 11: wrote this to absorb any possible injury situation to a

1926
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 11: veteran starter, one of the four projected starters that most

1927
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 11: people have kind of sharped in right now.

1928
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 5: They're in a good spot there, I think.

1929
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Speaker 11: And the evidence for that is just look to this

1930
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Speaker 11: competition for the number five spot in the rotation. You

1931
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 11: have Rhet Lauder, who's probably the leader in the clubhouse,

1932
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:52,680
Speaker 11: so to speak, going into his start today against the

1933
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 11: Cuban national team, the Cuban World Baseball Classic team, and

1934
01:40:56,280 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 11: then Chase Burns right behind him. If that was true,

1935
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 11: now that maybe there's a spot for both of those

1936
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 11: guys on the opening day roster, and that's not a

1937
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 11: bad thing.

1938
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 5: And then you know, there's just.

1939
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:13,600
Speaker 11: A list of solid dudes with real meaningful MLB experience

1940
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 11: behind them. Brandon Williamson, Julian Agie are Yeah. I would

1941
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 11: even put Chase Petty in there, who's had an offseason

1942
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:24,040
Speaker 11: to digest the experiences that he had last year, which

1943
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 11: weren't great, and he acknowledged that, actually, guy spoke to

1944
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Speaker 11: him about it this morning. But that's a guy who's

1945
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Speaker 11: been there, won't have to deal with the jitters. You

1946
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 11: can put him out there if needed, And I just

1947
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:41,599
Speaker 11: if the Reds have to end up patching over hunter

1948
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Speaker 11: Greens spot in the rotation for any period of time.

1949
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Speaker 11: And again, if anyone is just jumping into this conversation,

1950
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Speaker 11: we aren't there yet, that hasn't been determined, not the

1951
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 11: case yet, but if we get there, like I said,

1952
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:57,600
Speaker 11: the Reds are about as well situated to absorb this

1953
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Speaker 11: as any team in baseball.

1954
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Speaker 3: I would imagine all that being said, being in the

1955
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Speaker 3: clubhouse and around the guys today, what kind of was

1956
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 3: the vibe? How's the morale after this news that came

1957
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Speaker 3: out about Hunter this morning?

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Speaker 43: I think, you know, guys, look, it's not good news

1959
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Speaker 43: it you know, I'm sure people will be holding their

1960
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Speaker 43: breath until we get kind of a more full picture

1961
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Speaker 43: of what this is next Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: But you know, all these guys have to get their

1963
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Speaker 5: work in.

1964
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Speaker 11: And now that we're into the thick of games out

1965
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Speaker 11: here in Goodyear, the mornings around the complex are shorter.

1966
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 11: Guys skip over to the stadium. You know, just everyone

1967
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 11: is kind of moving on their own schedule. And you know,

1968
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Speaker 11: some guys playing today, they're going to be quicker to

1969
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Speaker 11: get their work in.

1970
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Speaker 5: Other guys who aren't, they're hanging out.

1971
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Speaker 11: I don't think anyone would take this as a positive though,

1972
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 11: But guys know, like like Terry Frank, I asked him

1973
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:06,679
Speaker 11: about the pitching depth and you know, don't you feel

1974
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 11: good about that part at least on a daylight today

1975
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Speaker 11: where Hunter Green's status is now in question, and he said, yeah,

1976
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 11: we're not going to throw in the towel. We've worked

1977
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:19,759
Speaker 11: too hard for this, and guys are still working hard

1978
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,720
Speaker 11: to get ready for this season. And now there's a

1979
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Speaker 11: possibility that getting ready for the season means doing that

1980
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Speaker 11: absent Hunter Green for some period of time. So guys

1981
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 11: are just doing their thing out here, I think is

1982
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 11: the best way to say it.

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Speaker 2: And then but before we let you go, and you

1984
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 2: just alluded to it. But now as we wait for

1985
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Speaker 2: what's next, it's kind of the understanding that we'll get

1986
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 2: more of an indication of this next Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, if you're asking about the timeline, yep, yeah.

1989
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

1990
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Speaker 5: So so Hunter will go back to Cincinnati.

1991
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Speaker 11: He's going to see longtime Reds team doctor Tim Kramcheck

1992
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 11: on I think the eighth or the ninth. They'll get

1993
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:08,600
Speaker 11: an MRI in Cincinnati this week, and then he'll go

1994
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 11: out to LA for a second opinion which the Reds

1995
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 11: are all for. And uh, that'll happen on Monday, and

1996
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 11: by Tuesday, I think that's March tenth. That's when Nick

1997
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:22,360
Speaker 11: Krawl and Terry Francon has said that they'll have kind

1998
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 11: of the full view of what we're dealing with here

1999
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Speaker 11: for Hunter.

2000
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Speaker 5: Meantime. In the meantime, I'll just say they did.

2001
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:32,800
Speaker 11: They have determined Hunter is not gonna throw no bullpens,

2002
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:37,559
Speaker 11: no side sessions, no nothing. He's basically they didn't say this,

2003
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:39,839
Speaker 11: but he's basically shut down right now in the interim

2004
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Speaker 11: awesome stuff.

2005
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Speaker 4: I know it's it's hectic, I know there's a lot

2006
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Speaker 4: going on. Pat.

2007
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Speaker 2: We appreciate the availability to jump on with us. How

2008
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:50,800
Speaker 2: can listeners follow along with all your coverage here throughout

2009
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:53,559
Speaker 2: spring training and obviously all the developments with Hunter, Green

2010
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Speaker 2: and Moore?

2011
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Speaker 5: Well thanks for teeing me up.

2012
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Speaker 11: Yeah, all the stories posts to Cincinnati dot com and

2013
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Speaker 11: read as much as I can on x at P,

2014
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Speaker 11: Brennan E, n Q, and Brennan is stuffed, b R

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Speaker 11: E and n A N so check it out if

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Speaker 11: you can.

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Speaker 4: Pat, Thank you so much, man, We appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Okay, guys, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: All right, there you go. That's the latest of what

2020
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Speaker 2: we know. I have questions, I do two very interesting

2021
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Speaker 2: stuff happening.

2022
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Speaker 3: Shout out to Pat though he knew, he knew we

2023
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 3: were he's gonna get questions. He did have the answers to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the one part.

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Speaker 3: Now, he was trying like hell, and he made himself

2026
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Speaker 3: available overre thankful.

2027
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Speaker 4: And that's tough too.

2028
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Speaker 2: Like you get this news today and then it's like,

2029
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 2: all right, we'll update things next Tuesday. Okay, there's just

2030
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:44,479
Speaker 2: a lot that's up in the air right now around

2031
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:46,680
Speaker 2: Hunter Green and as you just mentioned, a lot of

2032
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:49,680
Speaker 2: questions that that definitely need to be answered. We'll take

2033
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 2: a break. Some questions were answered last night on the hardwood,

2034
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 2: a full night of college basketball that we will recap.

2035
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Speaker 4: We'll look ahead, we'll talk bubble and more.

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Speaker 2: Phone calls five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Nope, he doesn't know everything about sports, but he.

2040
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Speaker 27: Can know.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back it is since he three sixty on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We'll get to your phone

2043
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Speaker 2: calls in just a few minutes here after our last

2044
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Speaker 2: our next break for now A couple minutes. On college

2045
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 2: basketball last night, locally disaster disaster on the road for

2046
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:43,640
Speaker 2: the University of Kentucky as they played at Texas A

2047
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Speaker 2: and M. And at one point in the first half,

2048
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 2: Kentucky built themselves a ten point lead that came crashing down.

2049
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Speaker 2: They were down twelve by the half and ended up

2050
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 2: losing ninety six to eighty five, another head scratching loss

2051
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Speaker 2: for Mark Pope and his Kentucky Wildcats. They closed the

2052
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:08,599
Speaker 2: season at Rupperina on Saturday against the fifth ranked Florida Gators.

2053
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Speaker 2: Also a loser. Last night on the hardwood, the Xavier

2054
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 2: Musketeers Xavier taking on Seaton Hall at the Centas Center

2055
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,519
Speaker 2: last night. It was Senior Night. It did not go

2056
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Speaker 2: well for the Xavier Musketeers. Seaton Hall wins that seventy

2057
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 2: seven to sixty eight. Trey Carroll, believe with a hip

2058
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 2: groin area injury, played just four minutes on Senior Night,

2059
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 2: did not score a point. Obviously devastating for the Xavier

2060
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 2: Musketeers as Trey Carroll has been awesome all year for

2061
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 2: the Muskies, but they are now without Trey Carroll. I

2062
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:48,840
Speaker 2: do not know at this point what that looks like

2063
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:52,720
Speaker 2: going forward for Xavier and for Trey Carroll. I do

2064
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 2: know that they have a road trip at Villanova to

2065
01:47:55,240 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 2: finish off their Big East regular season schedule that comes

2066
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 2: up on Saturday as well. Winners on the hardwood last

2067
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 2: night locally, the Dayton Flyers have found their footing. Dayton

2068
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 2: winners again last night over Richmond. Dayton has put together

2069
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 2: six straight wins and seven of eight. They take on

2070
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Speaker 2: VCU on Friday. The team they lost to in winners

2071
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 2: of the sixth of the last seven was a road

2072
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 2: trip at VCU, so Dayton up to third in the

2073
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:32,599
Speaker 2: A ten standings. They look to add one more on

2074
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Speaker 2: Friday night. The Louisville Cardinals bounced back last night they

2075
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:45,560
Speaker 2: went over Syracuse. Miami does just enough, again do the RedHawks.

2076
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 2: They miss a free throw one on one late, but

2077
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:53,679
Speaker 2: Toledo is unable to get up a shot. Miami seventy four,

2078
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 2: Toledo seventy two. It doesn't matter at this point how

2079
01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:00,200
Speaker 2: they get it done. The only thing that matter for

2080
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 2: Miami is winning the basketball game. They are thirty and oher.

2081
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 2: They travel Austin to Ohio University on Friday. Can you

2082
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:15,679
Speaker 2: imagine what the environment on Friday night late in Athens.

2083
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 4: Ohio, coming down from High Street. What is it?

2084
01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 2: It's a nine o'clock ESBN two tip off Ohio host

2085
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:24,760
Speaker 2: the RedHawks.

2086
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:26,559
Speaker 4: Man that will be.

2087
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,559
Speaker 3: Ohio, one of the great places on planet Earth, one

2088
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:36,040
Speaker 3: of the great drinking cities in America, and that game

2089
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 3: against your arch rival, chance to ruin their perfect season.

2090
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 3: That will be elite. And that's a great environment for

2091
01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 3: basketball to begin with. Like that's a cool old arena

2092
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 3: that kind of sits there in the on campus. That'll

2093
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 3: be exciting.

2094
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 2: It it to me, it's a it's gonna be an

2095
01:49:57,439 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 2: awesome setting. But more importantly, I I think it's an

2096
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:02,640
Speaker 2: opportunity that if Miami wins, I think they're going to

2097
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:05,240
Speaker 2: be in the tournament, and if they finished the regular

2098
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:07,799
Speaker 2: season without a blemish, they're in regardless of what happens

2099
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:10,879
Speaker 2: in the MAC Tournament. If they don't win on Friday,

2100
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 2: I believe it turns into a must win scenario for

2101
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 2: Miami in the MAC Tournament. So a very very big

2102
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Speaker 2: one for the RedHawks on Friday night in Athens, Ohio,

2103
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 2: a rival obviously of Miami, and then we have what

2104
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 2: happened last night at fifth third Arena. We talked to

2105
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:32,839
Speaker 2: Dan Hord, and that's the first thing Dan Hord said today.

2106
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 2: Who's playing better right now than the Cincinnati Bearcats. One

2107
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 2: would probably argue the Florida Gators are outside of that.

2108
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:44,560
Speaker 2: And it's not just the eye test, it's the metrics.

2109
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 2: The metrics around the Bearcats right now say that they

2110
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 2: are indeed playing top five basketball since that loss to

2111
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Speaker 2: West Virginia last night, ninety to sixty eight was the final.

2112
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 2: You did cut it to seven at one point in

2113
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 2: the second half, but outside of that, it was all

2114
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 2: Bearcats last night at Fifth Third Arena. They led by

2115
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 2: as many as twenty four, They never trailed by more

2116
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:15,519
Speaker 2: than three points in the game. Fifty percent from the field,

2117
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:18,400
Speaker 2: forty three percent from the three, seventy three percent from

2118
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:22,679
Speaker 2: the foul line. They out rebounded BYU, they out assisted BYU.

2119
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:26,599
Speaker 2: They had eight more steals, four more blocks, eight less

2120
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 2: turnovers than BYU. They won points in the paint over BYU.

2121
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 2: And what I like the most about what you see

2122
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 2: has pretty much been forced to do as of late

2123
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 2: because of injuries and the availability or unavailability of some

2124
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:45,559
Speaker 2: guys They've shrunk the rotation to essentially seven guys, and

2125
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:47,840
Speaker 2: I think there is a direct correlation to what this

2126
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:50,839
Speaker 2: team is trying to do and not happening. Their starters

2127
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:53,280
Speaker 2: last night all played twenty eight or more minutes and

2128
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 2: listened to this production dayde A Thomas twelve points on

2129
01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 2: the night to go along with six assists. Jisel j

2130
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:04,519
Speaker 2: T eighteen points on the night three steals for the Bearcats.

2131
01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:09,080
Speaker 2: Jalen Celestine had eighteen points as a starter for the Bearcats,

2132
01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:14,440
Speaker 2: Mustafa cham sixteen and nine, and Boba Miller fifteen, twelve

2133
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:18,520
Speaker 2: and five for the Bearcats. Last night, all five starters

2134
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:22,439
Speaker 2: went for more than twelve points in the game. They've

2135
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 2: shrunk the rotation. They're playing much more efficient offensive basketball.

2136
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:33,080
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you this, their defense remains up there

2137
01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:35,840
Speaker 2: with some of the best in college basketball. I know

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01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:38,960
Speaker 2: that aj debonsta had an off night last night. He

2139
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,639
Speaker 2: shot seven of twenty one from the field. I think

2140
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:44,719
Speaker 2: u Se gets some credit for that. I think Uce's

2141
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 2: style of play deserves credit for that. They also made

2142
01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 2: him turn the ball over five times. They did not

2143
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 2: make it easy for According to some the number one

2144
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:57,400
Speaker 2: overall pick presumed to be in the NBA upcoming draft.

2145
01:52:57,479 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 2: So it's a good night. It's a quad one win.

2146
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 2: And I'll say this as well to the fans of

2147
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:09,800
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Tuesday night nine o'clock tip team that's on the

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01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:13,639
Speaker 2: outside looking in, it was a sellout. It was an

2149
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:17,719
Speaker 2: energetic crowd. I thought, one of, if not the best

2150
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 2: crowds from an energy standpoint, that I've been in attendance for.

2151
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:24,719
Speaker 2: Since they've renovated fifth third Arena, the fans have continued

2152
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:27,639
Speaker 2: to show up and we've documented what this team has

2153
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 2: done since that loss to West Virginia, a thirty four

2154
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 2: or twenty point win over UCF in the tournament, they

2155
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:38,320
Speaker 2: dominated Kansas State by twenty nine. Kansas State then fired

2156
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Speaker 2: their head coach. They got to win that they probably

2157
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:43,160
Speaker 2: shouldn't have got, which hadn't happened much this year against

2158
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Speaker 2: Utah when they didn't play well. They beat Kansas by sixteen.

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Speaker 2: On the road.

2160
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 4: They did lose to Texas Tech.

2161
01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 2: They beat Oklahoma State by twenty three, and then last

2162
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 2: night beating the BYU Cougars by twenty two. They're doing

2163
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:00,680
Speaker 2: this in the Big twelve. I know it's not the

2164
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 2: top four or five teams in the Big twelve, but

2165
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:07,360
Speaker 2: they are dominating teams in the Big twelve right now

2166
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:11,160
Speaker 2: and a lot of people are taking notice about that.

2167
01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 4: Here is what Wes Miller had to say after last

2168
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:15,160
Speaker 4: night's win.

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01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 44: Yeah, I you know, I'll start by saying, I appreciate

2170
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:25,559
Speaker 44: everybody that made that a special environment tonight.

2171
01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:28,040
Speaker 45: They get the crowd gave us a huge lift.

2172
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 44: Tonight, Like the energy in the building was significant, and

2173
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 44: I appreciate that because I think I think they came

2174
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 44: out for Dade Thomas, and he's.

2175
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 45: What college athletics is all about.

2176
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:45,840
Speaker 44: He could have left here, he could have looked for

2177
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:48,320
Speaker 44: the more money or the next thing, and he just

2178
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 44: wanted to be at Cincinnati and be a part of

2179
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:55,480
Speaker 44: this transition into the Big twelve. And so I really

2180
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:58,000
Speaker 44: appreciate how people came out to celebrate him tonight and

2181
01:54:58,040 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 44: our seniors.

2182
01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 45: That meant the world to me. I felt more pressure

2183
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:03,760
Speaker 45: to coach tonight.

2184
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:07,000
Speaker 44: Than i've I can't remember ever feeling, because I wanted

2185
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:09,600
Speaker 44: us to win for him so badly. I told the

2186
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 44: guys I had to calm down a little bit.

2187
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 45: I wanted it too bad type of thing.

2188
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:15,360
Speaker 44: But I thought the energy in the building was just

2189
01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 44: awesome and significant, and I'm glad that that we got

2190
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:22,560
Speaker 44: that win for our seniors and and obviously for Day Day.

2191
01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:26,440
Speaker 45: Our defensive intensity.

2192
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 44: Was was was significant tonight, especially to start the game.

2193
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 45: I had us for. I had us for, uh uh,

2194
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 45: you want.

2195
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 4: To share a microphone issues?

2196
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:52,840
Speaker 45: Scream that's going to cause a problem. H is your

2197
01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:53,600
Speaker 45: is yours working?

2198
01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 13: Now?

2199
01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:55,680
Speaker 4: We lost?

2200
01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 45: We lost everything? Is that better?

2201
01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 4: No? Okay?

2202
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:04,480
Speaker 2: I guess that is part of what Wes Miller had

2203
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 2: to say before the microphones malfunctioned last night. But the

2204
01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:13,480
Speaker 2: point is taken. Dade Thomas is a dying breed right

2205
01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 2: now in college basketball because the decision he made to

2206
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 2: stay at the University of Cincinnati and that and that

2207
01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 2: performance last night and how he was recognized, I think

2208
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:29,160
Speaker 2: goes a long way for what this team has done

2209
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 2: and is still trying to do. I think there's still

2210
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 2: a path there. I think a trip to TCU now

2211
01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 2: TCUs now twenty and ten, ten and seven in the

2212
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:40,120
Speaker 2: Big Twelve. They just went to Texas Tech and won

2213
01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:42,440
Speaker 2: last night, so I think Texas Tech is firmly in

2214
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 2: the field.

2215
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 4: UC has to win at Texas Tech. That's a quad

2216
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:45,840
Speaker 4: one win.

2217
01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:48,600
Speaker 2: If they do so, that would give them four quad

2218
01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:50,960
Speaker 2: one wins. It would also put them at ten and

2219
01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:53,480
Speaker 2: eight in the regular season in the Big Twelve. No

2220
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 2: team has finished in the Big Twelve with a winning

2221
01:56:57,360 --> 01:57:00,880
Speaker 2: record and not made the NCAA turn on since two

2222
01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 2: thousand and eight two thousand and nine, so there's some

2223
01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 2: history there with getting to ten and eight for the Bearcats.

2224
01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:09,960
Speaker 2: After that, I think one in the Big Twelve tournament

2225
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:12,760
Speaker 2: makes things interesting. I think two in the Big Twelve

2226
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 2: Tournament gets them into the dance. Not saying that one

2227
01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 2: doesn't get them in, but it would be dicey. I

2228
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:24,080
Speaker 2: think two twenty total wins and this is an NCAA

2229
01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:28,200
Speaker 2: tournament team. That game happens Saturday at two o'clock in

2230
01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:30,320
Speaker 2: Fort Worth, Texas.

2231
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 4: We will come back.

2232
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 2: We will finish up with a phone caller two next

2233
01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:36,040
Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

2234
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 3: Scenes in the Big twelve Women's Basketball Tournament.

2235
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:43,080
Speaker 4: Tone have you seen this? I've seen the court and

2236
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 4: I don't think it's that impressive. To this point, the.

2237
01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 3: Court looks pretty normal. It's the first round the Big

2238
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 3: Twelve Tournament. This is where the men will be playing

2239
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:54,200
Speaker 3: as well. That court you referenced, well, the Bearcats the

2240
01:57:54,280 --> 01:57:57,160
Speaker 3: Lady Bearcats were the first game, Yeah, and they ran

2241
01:57:57,240 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 3: in their last to Kiansas State in All the State

2242
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:04,640
Speaker 3: did was hit a big twelve tournament record seventeen threes.

2243
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 3: You want to talk about a barrage from distance, Yeah, seventeen.

2244
01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:12,000
Speaker 4: Three is that court man. They couldn't get used to

2245
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 4: the court.

2246
01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:16,200
Speaker 3: For Kansas State, and they blew out Cincinnati I believe

2247
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:17,800
Speaker 3: ninety one to six eighty six.

2248
01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to get too far into it, but

2249
01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:23,920
Speaker 2: all of the hype going into this year around U

2250
01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:28,720
Speaker 2: SEE women's basketball and d Alexander and her emergence and

2251
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:32,960
Speaker 2: staying home at Cincinnati eleven and twenty is a disappointing

2252
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:35,400
Speaker 2: season for I think some of the groundwork that had

2253
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:37,320
Speaker 2: been laid for women's basketball at you see.

2254
01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, she got hurt and that kind of ye took

2255
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:41,760
Speaker 3: the wind out of the sales right away for them.

2256
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:46,920
Speaker 4: Yep, Mark is calling in. What's up?

2257
01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:49,400
Speaker 8: Mark? You there?

2258
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:49,760
Speaker 3: Guys?

2259
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 5: What's great today?

2260
01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:51,040
Speaker 4: Good?

2261
01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 8: Hey? I kind of was in and out. What are

2262
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 8: your name in the names of those who played in

2263
01:58:57,200 --> 01:59:00,000
Speaker 8: the past with the number twenty two. I'm not sure

2264
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:03,240
Speaker 8: if you said this guy or not, but the guy

2265
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:06,160
Speaker 8: I'm picking up His name was Dave Collins, playing back

2266
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:10,920
Speaker 8: in the seventies and early eighties. He really really fast.

2267
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:16,000
Speaker 8: Kid wasn't big hitter, but his left handed batter could

2268
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 8: get up there and you know, flap one the left

2269
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 8: side and get you beat the runout. Yeah, the play

2270
01:59:21,640 --> 01:59:25,440
Speaker 8: out at first. Great guy, Yeah, and I worked out.

2271
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2272
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:32,920
Speaker 8: So my next thing is when you have bone spurs

2273
01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:35,440
Speaker 8: in any place in your body, it really does take

2274
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:36,760
Speaker 8: a toll on what you can do and what you

2275
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 8: can't do. I had something take it off my elbow,

2276
01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:42,960
Speaker 8: I said, twenty two of my head. Well, years of

2277
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:46,560
Speaker 8: throwing the baseball, I was a pitcher. I also was

2278
01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:50,080
Speaker 8: a pitching coach for a while at high school. And

2279
01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:54,280
Speaker 8: the reason you get those is because you are on fastballs.

2280
01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:56,760
Speaker 8: Everybody thought it was always the curveball that ruined your

2281
01:59:57,120 --> 01:59:59,560
Speaker 8: elbows and your arms and all those things. It's actually

2282
01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:03,120
Speaker 8: the fast all because the fast barber requires you to

2283
02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:04,800
Speaker 8: load up and throw as hard as you can.

2284
02:00:05,080 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2285
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:07,800
Speaker 8: Well, but you've got a guy like got a guy

2286
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:10,200
Speaker 8: like Hunter Green. We know he's been doing that.

2287
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:10,920
Speaker 15: His whole life.

2288
02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:13,760
Speaker 8: He doesn't know how to throw ninety five and get

2289
02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:15,760
Speaker 8: people out. He has to throw one hundred and hundred

2290
02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:18,120
Speaker 8: and five and it took toll on his arm and

2291
02:00:18,120 --> 02:00:20,840
Speaker 8: that's why he's you know, I think he needs to

2292
02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:23,120
Speaker 8: just shut it down for a whole and he's gonna

2293
02:00:23,120 --> 02:00:25,480
Speaker 8: heal up because it's never gonna heal if he keeps

2294
02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 8: doing the same things over and over.

2295
02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:29,920
Speaker 3: You know what, he just did shut it down for

2296
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:32,120
Speaker 3: five months, didn'ey, Mark, And now you see this.

2297
02:00:33,640 --> 02:00:37,440
Speaker 8: I know it's not enough obviously, because he's got problems there.

2298
02:00:37,640 --> 02:00:41,400
Speaker 8: He's gonna have to have it surgery or those surgically removed.

2299
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 8: What's gonna have to happen, and that's gonna take the

2300
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:46,520
Speaker 8: rest of this season if he does. That's just how

2301
02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:47,800
Speaker 8: long it takes to come back from that.

2302
02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:48,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2303
02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:52,880
Speaker 8: I understand it's not the UCL, but uh, it is

2304
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:56,240
Speaker 8: something serious in your elbow and it does cause lots

2305
02:00:56,240 --> 02:00:59,440
Speaker 8: of pain when you throw or go through that motion.

2306
02:01:00,240 --> 02:01:03,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mark, I appreciate the phone call. Thank you.

2307
02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think part of this with Hunter as well.

2308
02:01:07,480 --> 02:01:11,160
Speaker 2: Austin the last couple of years he's had the groin issue,

2309
02:01:11,800 --> 02:01:14,040
Speaker 2: so maybe that affects what he's able to do or

2310
02:01:14,040 --> 02:01:16,680
Speaker 2: not do lower body wise, and if you're not able

2311
02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:19,640
Speaker 2: to drive as much with the groin. Maybe you put

2312
02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:22,240
Speaker 2: a little bit more pressure on the elbow as well. Yeah,

2313
02:01:22,320 --> 02:01:25,320
Speaker 2: and those things play into each other, certainly a possibility.

2314
02:01:25,680 --> 02:01:29,280
Speaker 2: Regardless of any of that, just be proactive and get

2315
02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:32,680
Speaker 2: the thing looked at. I would love to know. I

2316
02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:37,240
Speaker 2: am excited. I'm ecstatic to know what Moager thinks about

2317
02:01:37,280 --> 02:01:39,960
Speaker 2: the Hunter Green situation. And I think we've got an

2318
02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:43,160
Speaker 2: opportunity to find out that and more for Mo. Next

2319
02:01:43,600 --> 02:01:47,080
Speaker 2: for quick kits on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

2320
02:01:46,960 --> 02:01:48,440
Speaker 4: From the Johnson Heating Tip.

2321
02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:52,520
Speaker 1: Now it's time for quick hits on Tony Tykes.

2322
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:58,880
Speaker 2: Since we got Mo with us, Yes, since he three sixty,

2323
02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:02,920
Speaker 2: it's quick hits. He's right there, a little pep in

2324
02:02:02,960 --> 02:02:04,880
Speaker 2: the step of mode today. I just don't know why,

2325
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:09,560
Speaker 2: but Mo obviously excited about the next three hours on

2326
02:02:09,600 --> 02:02:11,880
Speaker 2: the Mowagger Show. And I'm sure what's ahead for you.

2327
02:02:12,640 --> 02:02:15,120
Speaker 2: But what can folks expect from three to six today?

2328
02:02:15,240 --> 02:02:18,200
Speaker 42: Well, I think for for three big hours, we're going

2329
02:02:18,280 --> 02:02:21,720
Speaker 42: to talk about where the DAYDA Thomas statue goes. We're

2330
02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:24,680
Speaker 42: going to talk about the contract extension for for Wes Miller.

2331
02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:28,000
Speaker 42: We're going to talk about what the school may do

2332
02:02:28,160 --> 02:02:31,760
Speaker 42: if this team wins a national title, the sky seems

2333
02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:35,680
Speaker 42: to be the limit, fellas, because the Bearcats aren't just

2334
02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:36,360
Speaker 42: winning games.

2335
02:02:36,360 --> 02:02:39,160
Speaker 4: Did you say national title? He did? I hear that correctly.

2336
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 4: Who's playing better right now?

2337
02:02:41,680 --> 02:02:43,440
Speaker 10: If the sky is the limit, then.

2338
02:02:43,480 --> 02:02:45,400
Speaker 4: Okay, I just want to make sure I heard that correctly.

2339
02:02:46,400 --> 02:02:48,640
Speaker 42: I just you know, it's just if the sky is

2340
02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:50,640
Speaker 42: the limit, which it seems to be when you're just

2341
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:54,120
Speaker 42: constantly hammering people, of course, yeah you're not. Just you're

2342
02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:57,600
Speaker 42: not just routinely eking out wins. Yeah, you're not just

2343
02:02:57,680 --> 02:02:59,640
Speaker 42: you know, oh, you know the other team dribble the

2344
02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:02,480
Speaker 42: ball off the foot in the last seconds they escape

2345
02:03:02,520 --> 02:03:05,640
Speaker 42: with non you're hammering people. When you're hammering people in

2346
02:03:05,720 --> 02:03:09,600
Speaker 42: the Big twelve, when you are playing like perhaps the

2347
02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:11,880
Speaker 42: best team in the Big twelve, then the sky is

2348
02:03:11,920 --> 02:03:13,960
Speaker 42: the limit. And if the sky is the limit, then

2349
02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:16,440
Speaker 42: with the national championship has to be the limit.

2350
02:03:16,480 --> 02:03:18,560
Speaker 10: And we will probably devote the entire.

2351
02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:20,640
Speaker 42: Three hours to this topic because I don't want to

2352
02:03:20,640 --> 02:03:22,400
Speaker 42: talk about hunter greens, bum elbow again.

2353
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:24,960
Speaker 2: Oh can you make something makes sense that Austin and

2354
02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:26,040
Speaker 2: I couldn't put together in.

2355
02:03:26,040 --> 02:03:27,120
Speaker 4: The last three hours.

2356
02:03:27,640 --> 02:03:30,800
Speaker 2: Let's try his last five to six starts of last year,

2357
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:35,520
Speaker 2: he dealt with discomfort in the elbow. Then the offseason

2358
02:03:35,560 --> 02:03:37,680
Speaker 2: came and he stopped throwing as much and the discomfort

2359
02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:40,480
Speaker 2: went away. And now a week before spring training, when

2360
02:03:40,520 --> 02:03:44,080
Speaker 2: he's ramping back up, the discomfort becomes an issue again.

2361
02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:46,800
Speaker 2: He did not pitch well in his final outing last year.

2362
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:49,880
Speaker 2: He did not pitch well in his first spring training

2363
02:03:49,960 --> 02:03:54,280
Speaker 2: outing this year. My question to this MO when the

2364
02:03:54,320 --> 02:03:58,640
Speaker 2: season ended last year, how are you immediately not getting

2365
02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:01,040
Speaker 2: an MRI, getting that looked yeah, and seeing if there's

2366
02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:04,200
Speaker 2: something you can do proactively in the offseason to avoid

2367
02:04:04,240 --> 02:04:06,400
Speaker 2: something like this today.

2368
02:04:06,520 --> 02:04:10,320
Speaker 42: Yeah, I don't know why there's not at least a

2369
02:04:10,520 --> 02:04:12,960
Speaker 42: medical look into what's going on. That doesn't mean you

2370
02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:16,800
Speaker 42: have to have a procedure, but I don't know why. Hey,

2371
02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:20,040
Speaker 42: you gutted through the end of the season, which everybody admires.

2372
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:22,760
Speaker 42: That's great, But why is there not a Hey, you know,

2373
02:04:22,920 --> 02:04:25,360
Speaker 42: we did get to the last five or six starts

2374
02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:29,280
Speaker 42: with some discomfort. Let's just take a look and maybe

2375
02:04:29,320 --> 02:04:31,720
Speaker 42: we're still dealing with the same thing. I don't know

2376
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Speaker 42: what's interesting to me and Jeff Carr and I are

2377
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Speaker 42: going to talk about this in the five o'clock hour.

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Speaker 42: The Hunter Green quotes from two weeks ago. He sounded emphatic,

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Speaker 42: like he's ready to show people. He's ready to show

2380
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:46,840
Speaker 42: people what he can do. He's ready to throw in

2381
02:04:46,880 --> 02:04:50,640
Speaker 42: the people's faces who defamed his character. But in the

2382
02:04:50,640 --> 02:04:53,560
Speaker 42: back of his mind, he just had an injection into

2383
02:04:53,560 --> 02:04:56,360
Speaker 42: his elbow and started to deal with more discomfort as

2384
02:04:56,360 --> 02:05:01,600
Speaker 42: spring training grew closer, Like I there's weirdness here. There's

2385
02:05:01,600 --> 02:05:03,480
Speaker 42: no getting around it. We all love Hunter Green, we

2386
02:05:03,560 --> 02:05:05,480
Speaker 42: all love what he can be. We all understand it's

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02:05:05,480 --> 02:05:10,400
Speaker 42: importance to the team. But there's just it's never just

2388
02:05:10,480 --> 02:05:12,440
Speaker 42: cut and dry. It feels like with so many of

2389
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Speaker 42: these guys, and Hunter Green's at the top of that list.

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Speaker 42: I do not know. I'm with you, guys, I do

2391
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:20,000
Speaker 42: not know how when the season ended, we don't just

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02:05:20,080 --> 02:05:21,960
Speaker 42: go in to take a peek and see what's going on.

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Speaker 10: It doesn't make that much sense to me.

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02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:26,240
Speaker 2: Do you look at what Hunter Green said today and

2395
02:05:26,560 --> 02:05:28,920
Speaker 2: how he used the term a chunk of the season

2396
02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:31,880
Speaker 2: or would be ready to go for a playoff push

2397
02:05:31,880 --> 02:05:34,800
Speaker 2: if surgery is the option? Do you worry about that

2398
02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:36,760
Speaker 2: in the way that Hunter is talking about this. The

2399
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:39,120
Speaker 2: Reds have been more quiet about it, but Hunter in

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02:05:39,120 --> 02:05:41,360
Speaker 2: a sense said, you know, hopefully I can be there

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02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:43,240
Speaker 2: for a chunk of the year. Hopefully we're in a

2402
02:05:43,240 --> 02:05:45,600
Speaker 2: playoff scenario and I'm there for the playoff push. That

2403
02:05:45,680 --> 02:05:48,800
Speaker 2: doesn't sound optimistic to me at this point.

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02:05:49,520 --> 02:05:52,360
Speaker 42: It doesn't sound like I might miss a start. That

2405
02:05:52,400 --> 02:05:54,080
Speaker 42: doesn't sound like, well, they may have to push my

2406
02:05:54,120 --> 02:05:56,120
Speaker 42: opening days start back a few and we'll let Nick

2407
02:05:56,200 --> 02:05:58,880
Speaker 42: Lodolo or somebody else pitch Game one and I'll be

2408
02:05:58,920 --> 02:05:59,840
Speaker 42: there for the six game.

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Speaker 10: That chunk of the season is not two weeks. That's

2410
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:06,600
Speaker 10: a sliver. Remember we did with Zach Taylor.

2411
02:06:06,680 --> 02:06:09,280
Speaker 42: We had to like come up with what the definition

2412
02:06:09,400 --> 02:06:12,880
Speaker 42: is of several wasn't because some players gonna miss several weeks.

2413
02:06:13,680 --> 02:06:15,360
Speaker 42: So now we have to talk about what does a

2414
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:18,680
Speaker 42: chunk mean? Because there's a chunk, there's a sliver, there's

2415
02:06:18,720 --> 02:06:21,840
Speaker 42: a slice, ye, there's a god, I don't know what

2416
02:06:21,880 --> 02:06:24,440
Speaker 42: does chunk mean? Is chunk a month? This chunk two months?

2417
02:06:24,480 --> 02:06:26,880
Speaker 42: Like what is a chunk of a season? But like

2418
02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:29,600
Speaker 42: then it's playoff push And it's like, well, playoff push

2419
02:06:29,640 --> 02:06:35,000
Speaker 42: is September, dude, But I mean he's gonna get the

2420
02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:38,960
Speaker 42: opinions of two people. And then then what right, like

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02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:41,520
Speaker 42: then what doesn't seem like Hunter will be on the

2422
02:06:41,560 --> 02:06:43,600
Speaker 42: mound in the fourth game of the season or Hunter

2423
02:06:43,640 --> 02:06:47,360
Speaker 42: will be on the mound by mid April. I I

2424
02:06:47,360 --> 02:06:51,560
Speaker 42: don't know, man, and like with Hunter Green like it

2425
02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:54,560
Speaker 42: or not, this is a part of the conversation. You

2426
02:06:54,600 --> 02:06:57,120
Speaker 42: can't help but talk about him without talking about And

2427
02:06:57,160 --> 02:06:58,880
Speaker 42: this is no indictment on his character.

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02:06:59,600 --> 02:07:00,960
Speaker 10: It's it's a statement of fact.

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02:07:01,240 --> 02:07:05,960
Speaker 42: He's hurt a lot, and his importance to the team

2430
02:07:06,280 --> 02:07:09,600
Speaker 42: is inflated to a degree because of how good he is,

2431
02:07:10,280 --> 02:07:13,760
Speaker 42: but his ability to be important to the team is

2432
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:17,800
Speaker 42: compromised because he's always dealing with something physically. Yeah, and

2433
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:20,000
Speaker 42: this was hopefully going to be the year where that

2434
02:07:20,120 --> 02:07:22,120
Speaker 42: was not going to be the case. Now it won't

2435
02:07:22,160 --> 02:07:26,240
Speaker 42: be like this is a thing. And it's also like,

2436
02:07:27,360 --> 02:07:29,120
Speaker 42: you know, the depth is going to be tested at

2437
02:07:29,120 --> 02:07:32,000
Speaker 42: some point. Does it have to be tested in spring training?

2438
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:32,400
Speaker 15: Yeah?

2439
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:35,920
Speaker 2: And how much how much of the discomfort weighed into

2440
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:38,320
Speaker 2: him performing at the end of the year last year,

2441
02:07:38,720 --> 02:07:40,760
Speaker 2: if it was to the last five or six starts,

2442
02:07:41,320 --> 02:07:43,480
Speaker 2: and then you know, it's it's the same old we

2443
02:07:43,520 --> 02:07:46,720
Speaker 2: hear well, Ellie struggled because he was actually injured and

2444
02:07:46,760 --> 02:07:49,080
Speaker 2: he just played through it. Hunter played through five or

2445
02:07:49,160 --> 02:07:52,560
Speaker 2: six outings. We had this same deal with Spencer Steer

2446
02:07:52,600 --> 02:07:54,720
Speaker 2: and Matt McClain, who go the whole offseason and the year

2447
02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:57,880
Speaker 2: starts in their injury. It's just it's too much of

2448
02:07:57,920 --> 02:07:59,720
Speaker 2: the same issue right now for the Reds when it

2449
02:07:59,760 --> 02:08:01,360
Speaker 2: comes it's spring training in the offseason.

2450
02:08:01,360 --> 02:08:03,440
Speaker 3: I want to know when did the Reds know about this?

2451
02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:06,280
Speaker 3: Did they know during the last five or six games?

2452
02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:08,120
Speaker 3: And you know, Hunter was a dude who kind of

2453
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:11,000
Speaker 3: like went through his own process with his groin last year.

2454
02:08:11,080 --> 02:08:13,880
Speaker 3: Did he try to go through his own process this offseason?

2455
02:08:13,920 --> 02:08:15,640
Speaker 3: How did he find out he had bonesburs? How did

2456
02:08:15,640 --> 02:08:18,600
Speaker 3: he knows ucl is intact? Was there an MRI previously?

2457
02:08:18,640 --> 02:08:20,320
Speaker 3: Did the Reds know about the injection? What was in

2458
02:08:20,360 --> 02:08:22,200
Speaker 3: the injection? Like, none of it adds up.

2459
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 42: No, Well, there was a communication gap apparently last year

2460
02:08:25,680 --> 02:08:28,080
Speaker 42: during the season when he was coming off the groin injury. Right,

2461
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:31,480
Speaker 42: So if there was one communication issue between Hunter Green

2462
02:08:31,520 --> 02:08:34,600
Speaker 42: and the Reds, which even if it wasn't a communication issue,

2463
02:08:34,640 --> 02:08:37,280
Speaker 42: it seemed to be a not on the same page issue,

2464
02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:39,920
Speaker 42: why would we then assume that that's not the case

2465
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:41,680
Speaker 42: this offseason right now.

2466
02:08:41,720 --> 02:08:43,200
Speaker 10: Look at the end of the year, he had.

2467
02:08:43,080 --> 02:08:45,240
Speaker 42: Those two starts, the one against the Mets on that

2468
02:08:45,320 --> 02:08:47,880
Speaker 42: Sunday Labor Day where he was awesome, and then the

2469
02:08:47,880 --> 02:08:49,800
Speaker 42: one against the Cubs where he went the full nine,

2470
02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:52,320
Speaker 42: they win won nothing. He was even better, And so

2471
02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:54,760
Speaker 42: he had some starts at the end of the season

2472
02:08:55,280 --> 02:08:57,760
Speaker 42: where he was lights out and one of the reasons

2473
02:08:57,760 --> 02:09:01,520
Speaker 42: why they made the postseason were those two games. But

2474
02:09:01,640 --> 02:09:08,160
Speaker 42: like Hunter, Green felt betrayed or felt slandered or was

2475
02:09:08,480 --> 02:09:11,840
Speaker 42: hurt because there was the insinuation that he wasn't doing

2476
02:09:11,960 --> 02:09:14,600
Speaker 42: everything he could to come back from a groin injury

2477
02:09:14,680 --> 02:09:18,520
Speaker 42: last year. So then is it like, well, I'm dealing

2478
02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:21,880
Speaker 42: with elbow discomfort, can't can't let on the fact that

2479
02:09:21,880 --> 02:09:24,640
Speaker 42: I'm dealing with soreness. So now I'm gonna maybe push

2480
02:09:24,680 --> 02:09:26,960
Speaker 42: myself like I don't know that the answer is yes

2481
02:09:27,040 --> 02:09:30,120
Speaker 42: or no. But unfortunately, when it comes to something like

2482
02:09:30,160 --> 02:09:34,440
Speaker 42: this with this particular player, there are more questions than answers,

2483
02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:36,520
Speaker 42: and that's deeply frustrated.

2484
02:09:36,080 --> 02:09:38,600
Speaker 2: Which would lead me, because he has been often injured,

2485
02:09:39,080 --> 02:09:41,040
Speaker 2: to go above and beyond in the off season to

2486
02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:43,720
Speaker 2: make sure everything's good. That's even more reason to say, Okay,

2487
02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:45,840
Speaker 2: let's just take a look at it and make sure

2488
02:09:45,880 --> 02:09:46,640
Speaker 2: everything's okay.

2489
02:09:46,680 --> 02:09:47,400
Speaker 4: Now, I know, Mo.

2490
02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:53,240
Speaker 2: That it was made official yesterday. You posted the picture yesterday.

2491
02:09:53,680 --> 02:09:56,640
Speaker 2: Do you still have a segment set aside this afternoon

2492
02:09:56,680 --> 02:09:58,520
Speaker 2: for maybe anything else on Trey Hendrickson?

2493
02:10:00,760 --> 02:10:05,520
Speaker 42: Not really, okay, I mean we are going to talk

2494
02:10:05,560 --> 02:10:09,120
Speaker 42: about as the coming days unfold, about what they do

2495
02:10:09,160 --> 02:10:14,080
Speaker 42: at Edge Rusher, and so you know you are gonna

2496
02:10:14,080 --> 02:10:18,000
Speaker 42: be talking about the players that effectively replace Trey Hendrickson.

2497
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:20,760
Speaker 42: I do think, and I don't know that I'm gonna

2498
02:10:20,760 --> 02:10:23,000
Speaker 42: dive too deep into this today, but like what they

2499
02:10:23,080 --> 02:10:27,160
Speaker 42: have chosen to do is fascinating. They have willingly moved

2500
02:10:27,200 --> 02:10:30,320
Speaker 42: on from a player that many regard as the best

2501
02:10:30,360 --> 02:10:35,360
Speaker 42: free agent available. That's that's a fascinating story, and it's

2502
02:10:35,400 --> 02:10:39,560
Speaker 42: a fascinating story in terms of how things unfold with

2503
02:10:39,640 --> 02:10:44,720
Speaker 42: Treys moving forward. Yeah, like pass rush is king. I mean,

2504
02:10:44,760 --> 02:10:48,240
Speaker 42: like I think we've all understood how this was gonna unfold.

2505
02:10:48,280 --> 02:10:50,800
Speaker 42: We've all understood, like the Bengals have had no plans

2506
02:10:50,840 --> 02:10:53,839
Speaker 42: for Trey Hendrickson to be on the team in twenty

2507
02:10:53,880 --> 02:10:56,280
Speaker 42: twenty six, Like We've accepted that, whether you agree with

2508
02:10:56,320 --> 02:10:56,640
Speaker 42: it or not.

2509
02:10:56,720 --> 02:10:58,880
Speaker 10: We've had a lot of fun with it. But pass

2510
02:10:58,960 --> 02:10:59,640
Speaker 10: rush is King.

2511
02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:00,400
Speaker 8: Cool.

2512
02:11:02,120 --> 02:11:03,680
Speaker 42: Here you had a guy who two years ago led

2513
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:06,560
Speaker 42: the league in sacks, that's pass Rushes King. Yet you're

2514
02:11:06,600 --> 02:11:09,440
Speaker 42: letting him go and he's arguably the best free agent.

2515
02:11:09,720 --> 02:11:13,000
Speaker 42: So where it goes from here is extraordinarily interesting. Do

2516
02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:14,560
Speaker 42: they look back on the end of this at the

2517
02:11:14,600 --> 02:11:16,240
Speaker 42: end of this coming season and go, you know what,

2518
02:11:16,520 --> 02:11:19,080
Speaker 42: our plan to replace Trey worked and we got it right.

2519
02:11:19,480 --> 02:11:22,360
Speaker 42: Does Trey play in twenty twenty six like he did

2520
02:11:22,360 --> 02:11:25,080
Speaker 42: in twenty twenty four and make the Bengals look bad?

2521
02:11:25,240 --> 02:11:28,920
Speaker 42: Does he play against the Bengals? Uh, There's so many

2522
02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:32,000
Speaker 42: different things that make this interesting, but I don't know

2523
02:11:32,040 --> 02:11:34,200
Speaker 42: that beyond that I have that much on Trey. We

2524
02:11:34,240 --> 02:11:36,960
Speaker 42: will talk to James Rapine and get sort of a

2525
02:11:37,520 --> 02:11:40,920
Speaker 42: free agency overview in the five o'clock hour, and we're

2526
02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:43,800
Speaker 42: gonna talk with the doctor from Orthos Sizy n four

2527
02:11:43,880 --> 02:11:47,200
Speaker 42: twenty about Hunter Green plus Rick Browing on the Muskies

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2531
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Speaker 42: He's gonna join us at four forty five. We are

2532
02:11:59,360 --> 02:12:02,919
Speaker 42: loaded today plus Jeff Carr plus the latest from Goodyear.

2533
02:12:03,120 --> 02:12:06,720
Speaker 42: There's a lot going on. Oh and the UC Bearcats

2534
02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:10,080
Speaker 42: are gonna make the NCAA tournament, as are the Miami RedHawks.

2535
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Speaker 4: Love it and the NK and Norse that starts to

2536
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Speaker 4: day buck eyes hope. So all right, MO, have a

2537
02:12:17,600 --> 02:12:18,960
Speaker 4: great show. Everybody gets a bit.

2538
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Speaker 10: Everybody you get a bit. And that's Zager.

2539
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Speaker 4: Sorry, thanks moo Bye Mo, see you guys. That is Mowager.

2540
02:12:28,040 --> 02:12:31,840
Speaker 4: I hope Mo's not concealing any bone spurs. Great question,

2541
02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:34,520
Speaker 4: great point. We can this again tomorrow. Have a great day.

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02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:37,800
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