1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Thank God for X. Over the weekend, there was an 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: Antimdami protest at the New York City Mayor's resident, Gracie Mansion. 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: There were devices that were thrown. Well, if you listen 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: to the news or looked Atami's post, it insinuates that 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: these people who are against them Dami through these devices. 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: That is not the truth. They were thrown by two Muslims. 7 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: What a racist thing to say. I mean, I can't 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: believe somebody's say it is that something like that this 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: early in the morning. If, just if by chance, if 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: I were asked to moderate a Republican a GOP gubernatorial 11 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: primary debate, you know, with all five thousand people running 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: to be governor on the Republican ticket, why do you 13 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: support any individual candidate? And what questions would you want 14 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: me to ask any of the candidates, whether that's the 15 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: candidate you tell me you support, or you want to 16 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: tell me or ask or suggest that I ask a 17 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: different question of a different candidate. So here's your assignment 18 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: that I'm going to probably mind you at least once 19 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: a week until this scheduled debate. I'm not sure there 20 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: was even a date yet, and I'm not quite sure 21 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: that they'll actually I mean they've told me that I 22 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: will moderate, but we'll let them make that announcement if 23 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: and when they choose to announce it, and if and 24 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: when they really do one to actually do that. So 25 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: here's your assignment subject line. First of all, the email 26 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: address is Michael Brown at iHeartMedia dot com. Michael Brown 27 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: at iHeartMedia dot com. Subject is in the subject line 28 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: because I don't want to have to filter through and 29 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: read thousands, you know, because I again, I read every email, 30 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 2: but I'd like to be able to group these into 31 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: a folder so I can eventually put them together and 32 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: study them and come up with questions. So the subject 33 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: line will be GOP governor. I figure that's apparently dragon. 34 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: You think that's simple enough for this audience. Do you 35 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: think we need to dumb it down even further? I mean, 36 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: maybe just gop, but governor's a big long word. That 37 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: might be miscop. 38 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: Go. 39 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: There you go, yeah, yeah, there you go, and you 40 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: can expelled gov, go ov or GUV. You know you 41 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: expelled GUV like in Blazing Saddle, just you know gov. 42 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: So let's do that gop gov. So that's the subject line. 43 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: Six letters with the space GOP and you don't have 44 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: to capitalize everything. Just I don't care. Just gop gov. 45 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: That's all I want to see. Do they need to 46 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: be in that specific order? Yes? Yes, GOV? Got it? 47 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: Now two things you can do one or both. I 48 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: don't care. But and I'm really sincere about this because 49 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: you may have noticed that I have not discussed at 50 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: all any of the candidates other than I think I 51 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: casually mentioned the other day that I was getting frustrated 52 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: because I have asked a comms director of one of 53 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: the candidates for some information about something this candidate has 54 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: said that, and that comms director has yet to reply 55 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: even to my text messages. I mean, it's like we 56 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: like we haven't known each other for twenty years. So 57 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: email Michael Brown at iHeartMedia dot com, subject gives subject 58 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: line gop gov, and then tell me who your candidate is, 59 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: and why you support that candidate, and why you think 60 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: that candidate can win. Anything that you think I need 61 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: to know about that candidate, Okay, anything and or questions 62 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: you would like me to ask, either your candidate or 63 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: another candidate or all of the candidates. I don't care. 64 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: I would just like for this audience to help me 65 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: formulate as many good questions and help me understand why 66 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: it is, help me understand the landscape out there about 67 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: this Republican primary, because we're look, gang, we're getting close, 68 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: and it's time to start talking about Sorry, talk about 69 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: Colorado politics one of my least favorite subjects, because what 70 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: talk about something that's those screwed up that the only 71 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: way we can actually fix it is to just hope 72 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: that the Uranians could figure out some way to plan 73 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: a nuclear device under the GOP Republican Party and just 74 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: blow it up and start all over again. Yes, just 75 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: look it so seriously. Michael Brown at iartmedia dot com. 76 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: Subject line is gop dove. You're going to tell me 77 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: who you support and why you support, and or you're 78 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 2: going to suggest questions of either the candidate you support, 79 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: or questions of candidates that you oppose, or just whatever 80 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: questions in general you like for me to ask all 81 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: the candidates. All right, there's your assignment for the day. Now, 82 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: speaking of Republican politics, I want to start out with 83 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: a simple question, the time that maybe a first year 84 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: law professor would ask a student who hasn't done the reading. Dragon, 85 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 2: I'll even ask you this, Oh boy, Yeah, what does 86 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 2: it mean to argue a case before the US Supreme Court? 87 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: That you're standing in front of the Supreme Court and 88 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: argue your case? Okay? In person? Or have you have 89 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: missus redbud Effrit into DC. 90 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: No? 91 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 2: Okay, so you haven't been to the Supreme Court? Correct? Okay? 92 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: So I am a member of the U s. Supreme 93 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: Court Bar. They have their own bar, not like th 94 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: your bar. Yeah, they go TOQUA. They got everything. In fact, 95 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 2: I'm quite sure that most of the justices probably have 96 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: in their chambers. They have their own bar that I'm 97 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 2: a member of the United States Supreme Court Bar. But 98 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: I have never argued a case before the bar. I've 99 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: been in the court when they've been holding oral arguments, 100 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: not with any cases I was involved in, but I've 101 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: been there and I've listened to the to the Solicitor 102 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: General of the United States of America make the case, 103 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: and then I don't remember what the case was, and 104 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: I remember the people on the opposite side making their case, 105 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: and they made an argument. I think any lawyer worth 106 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: their bar membership. I don't think it's a difficult question. 107 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: Does it mean to argue a case before the US 108 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: Supreme Court. It means you stood at the lectern in 109 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: that marvel temple at First Street, Northeastern, d C. And 110 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 2: you spoke directly to nine justices of the US Supreme Court. 111 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: You presented your client's position, You fielded the questions. Often 112 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: all of those are withering questions. Oftentimes you simply say, 113 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: and may it please the court, and before you can 114 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 2: even start you argument, some justice says, some Justice says, 115 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: mister Brown about so and so. You never really you 116 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: can get to finish your question. So the questions can 117 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: be withering, occasionally disorienting, and they're always, i think, always consequential. 118 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: You earned that moment through years of legal work, a 119 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: formal application to the Supreme Court, bar and the confidence 120 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: who've ever retained or appointed you to carry their case 121 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: to the highest court in the United States of America. 122 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: This is what it means to argue before the Supreme Court. 123 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: It is not a casual turn, it's not a casual phrase, 124 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: it is not a flexible metaphor, and it is not 125 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: something the Colorado Secretary of State and the current candidate 126 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: to be the highest ranking legal officer in this state, 127 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: Jenna Griswold, has ever done, not once, not ever, and 128 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: yet here we are. What's the claim? Repeated, deliberate, and documented. 129 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: It's pretty clear. And of all people don't get mad 130 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: at me. Don't shoot the messenger. But let's go to 131 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: do we not have any internet today? Do we not 132 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: have any internet? Somebody replaced the hamster? Did you dragon 133 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: get any quarters? I got a dollar bill? Maybe I 134 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: got I got maybe a dollar bill somewhere, But you 135 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: can't break your hundred I'm not gonna no, I'm not 136 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: gonna give I hord one hundred bucks to get to 137 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: get the machine running again. I'm just you know, I'm 138 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: not going to do it. Okay, I got it. I 139 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: got it running now. I don't know what's going on. 140 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: So this is I ran across this in my ex 141 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: timeline and I thought, you freaking got to be kidding me. 142 00:08:54,160 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: Credit goes to nine News and well, don't shoot the messenger. 143 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,479 Speaker 2: It's title Clark. 144 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: The leading Democratic candidate for Colorado Attorney General, is making 145 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: false claims about her qualifications. Current Secretary of State and 146 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 4: AG candidate Jenna Griswold claims to have high level courtroom 147 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 4: experience she does not have, raising questions about both her 148 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 4: experience and her honesty. 149 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to take on the billionaires and corporations as 150 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: attorney general. 151 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 4: That is Democratic Secretary of State Jenna Griswald. She's running 152 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: for Attorney General, Colorado's chief legal officer. And this claim 153 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: by Griswold about her qualifications and. 154 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 5: In twenty twenty four, I followed the constitution and argued 155 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 5: at the Supreme Court that Donald Trump should not be 156 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 5: eligible for president. 157 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: That claim is not true. It's not a complicated thing. 158 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: It's false. 159 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 4: No matter how many times Griswald says it during her 160 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 4: campaign for ag that she argued before the Supreme Court 161 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 4: or argued at the Supreme Court. 162 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: She didn't. 163 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: I found the Supreme Court argument exhilarating. 164 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 4: That is not used legal analyst Scott Robinson, and this 165 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: is a certific of his admission to the Supreme Court 166 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: bar where he actually did argue a case, and one 167 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 4: Griswold was simply someone being represented in a case before 168 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 4: the Supreme Court. 169 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 3: That's a far cry from actually getting to argue in 170 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 3: front of the court itself. 171 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 4: When we ask Griswold's campaign why she's making these false claims, 172 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: they responded with statements saying, in part, the word argue 173 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 4: does not exclusively mean oral argument. 174 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: When a lawyer. 175 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: Presents an argument in person to the United States Supreme Court, 176 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: they have argued before, argued at the Supreme Court. Anything 177 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: else is not arguing to the court. 178 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: This is the woman who actually argued the case. The 179 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 4: Griswold is falsely taking credit for arguing before the court. 180 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 4: Mister Chief Justice, and may I pleased the court. Colorado's 181 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: Solicitor General, Shannon Stevenson. That's her team photos on the 182 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 4: day when she now Jenna Griswold argued before the Supreme Court. 183 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: To a lawyer, the terms are entirely crystal clear. Perhaps 184 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: not to the general public. 185 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 4: That may have been true until the public seize this 186 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 4: and we hold them on. Griswold's Democratic primary opponents for 187 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: AG all have extensive courtroom experience. 188 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 2: Michael Doherty is a state and. 189 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 4: Local prosecutor Bultha County, da He Aldoshi is a federal prosecutor, 190 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: and David Seligman as a consumer attorney. We ask Griswold's 191 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 4: campaign if she has ever argued a case in any courtroom. 192 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: They pointed to. 193 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 4: One case more than a decade ago, in twenty eleven 194 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 4: or twenty twelve. They said in the District of Columbia. 195 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 4: Records show that Griswold was only admitted to the DC 196 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 4: bar for the final five months or so of that timeframe, 197 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 4: and Griswold's campaign did not provide details that would allow 198 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 4: us to confirm that single case. 199 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: Hmmm, interesting, So the claim gets repeated, It's a deliberate claim, 200 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: and it gets documented. So it's not a slip of 201 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: the tongue at some late night campaign event after an 202 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: exhausting day on the trail. This isn't a one time 203 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: gaff that could charitably be dismissed as an imprecise word 204 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: choice made in the heat of the moment. This is 205 00:11:55,240 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: a sustained, scripted, multi platform misrepresentation lie that Griswold has 206 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: deployed repeatedly in the run up to the twenty twenty 207 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 2: six Democrat primary to be the Attorney General. In a 208 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: December fundraising email to supporters last year December of twenty five, 209 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: she listed among her accomplishments that quote she followed the 210 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: Constitution and argued at the United States Supreme Court the 211 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: Donald Trump should not be eligible for president. That email 212 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: was written, it was reviewed, it was approved, and it 213 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: was sent by a professional campaign operation probably be getting paid, 214 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: you know, boat loads of money. Nobody accidentally typed those words. 215 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: They were a deliberate and are a deliberate selling point 216 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: being offered by our lack line sacka poop. Secretary of 217 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 2: State Jenna Griswold. On March two, during a virtual appearance 218 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: with the Longmont Area Democrats, an event she presumably prepared for, 219 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 2: Griswold appeared to be reading from that very same script, 220 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: and she said, and I quote, I followed the Constitution 221 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: and argued at the Supreme Court that Donald Trump should 222 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: not be eligible for president close quote Now, in a 223 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: letter to Colorado Democrats ahead of the March precinct caucuses, 224 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: she listed arguing before the Supreme Court. Those are precise 225 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: words as one of her accomplishments. Three separate instances, three 226 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: separate audiences, three separate platforms, the exact same lie. It 227 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: is not a mistake. Mistakes happen once you get corrected. 228 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: It's a talking point. She's using a talking point, a calculated, 229 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: credentialed talking point that she's deploying to impress voters and 230 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: paper over a glaring weakness in her candidacy to be 231 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: the head of the state's top legal office. And here's 232 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: what actually happened. This is established by the public court 233 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: record and confirmed by news reporting. In late twenty twenty three, 234 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: six Colorado voters anti Trump Republicans Unaffiliated file suit against 235 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: Griswold in her capacity as the Secretary of State. They 236 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: were trying to force her, as the state's chief elections officer, 237 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: to remember this case to remove Trump's name from the ballot, 238 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: arguing that Trump's conduct surrounding January sixth constituted an insurrection 239 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: undersection three of the fourteenth Amendment. Now note the posture 240 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: of this case carefully, because this is important too, because 241 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: it shows you just how lying and disingenuous the Secretary 242 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: of State is. Griswold was the defendant, she was sued. 243 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: The case was styled Anderson versus Griswold. It eventually became 244 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: Trump versus Anderson at the Supreme Court. So being the 245 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: name defendant in a lawsuit is not the same as 246 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: being the lawyer who argues the case. It's the legal 247 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: equivalent of being the subject of a parking ticket. You 248 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: were involved in the preceding, but that involvement does not 249 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: make you the attorney standing at the podium. Now, we know. 250 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: The Colorado Supreme Court ruled in the planet's favor back 251 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: in December of twenty three, holding that Trump had engaged 252 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: in an insurrection and he was therefore ineligible for the 253 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: Colorado primary ballot. And so the case went to the 254 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: US Supreme Court on an ex expedited timeline. And who 255 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: argued Colorado's position before? Who argued the Colorado's position before 256 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: the United States Supreme Court In February eight, twenty twenty four, 257 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: the Solicitor Jenner for the State of Colorado, Shannon Stevenson, 258 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: not Jenna Griswold, Shannis Shannon Stevenson. Who is I believe, 259 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: and I will say publicly, I think she's a very 260 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: skilled appellate attorney who holds the Colorado's designated position for 261 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: arguing our most important cases. The briefs. Even the briefs 262 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: she had nothing to do with other than looking at 263 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: them and reading them and saying, well, what about this 264 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: word or that word? They were filed by the office 265 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 2: of the Colorado Attorney General, Phil Wiser. Now Griswold was 266 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: there physically. She actually you remember this, surely you remember 267 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: she stood outside the Spring Court building on the mornings 268 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: oral arguments. She gave a bunch of statements to the press. 269 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: She was already campaigning. There are photographs of for in 270 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: front of the building. She was present the way a 271 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: plaintiff's family member is present at trial. She had a 272 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: stake in the outcome. She showed up, but she was 273 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: not the one doing the lawyering. So she's being inaccurate 274 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: and she's misrepresenting. 275 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 5: I have to say some things you just can't unsee. 276 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 5: And for me, every time now when I look at 277 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 5: the US twenty dollars bill, I no longer see Andrew Jackson. 278 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 5: I see Jeffrey Epstein. I think we might have to 279 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 5: change who's on our twenty dollars bill. Take a look, 280 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 5: and what say you. 281 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: Somebody told me that in or I read some and 282 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: not somebody didn't tell me. I read somewhere that in 283 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: Heggesa's secretary war Pete Heggsys in one of his briefing 284 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: books that in the in the it was electronic. In 285 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: the front of the PDF, they had put a picture 286 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: of a twenty dollars bill with Jeffrey Epstein in the middle, 287 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: with the heading under it, this is what you're fighting for. 288 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: Somebody had hacked him and done that. Now, whether that's 289 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: true or not, I don't know, but that's I mean, 290 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: I read it on the internet, so it's got to 291 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: be true. Must be it must be true. So back 292 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: to Jenner Griswold. So when nine News confronted her campaign 293 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: with those facts that I've outlined, their defense was that 294 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 2: the word argue does not exclusively mean oral argument. Now, 295 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 2: Goober number six zero eight five, you you prevent me 296 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 2: from bearing the lead. Griswold, You're right, Grizzly seems to 297 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: be the embodiment of Democrats when words have no meaning 298 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: in facts don't matter. I pray we can stop this 299 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: madness before it takes us all down. That's exactly right, 300 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: because I want you to sit on this for a moment, 301 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: think about the word argue does not exclusively mean oral argument. 302 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: So here's a candidate, a Democrat in Colorado, running for 303 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: the office of Attorney General of Colorado. That is a 304 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: job that requires you to be the state's top lawyer, 305 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: to supervise hundreds of lawyers, to make arguments in courts 306 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: at every level, to exercise legal judgment on behalf of 307 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: you know, six plus million Colorados. Is defending a misleading 308 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: credential by parsing dictionary definitions over Colorado. Pauls not exactly 309 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 2: a right mean outlet. In fact, it is exactly a 310 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 2: left mean outlet. Noted that, as a general rule of thumb, 311 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: if your defense requires pulling out a dictionary, you might 312 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: be doing it wrong. So I want it just for 313 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 2: the fun of it. I want to take the campaign's 314 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 2: argument seriously for a moment, just to demonstrate how thoroughly 315 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: it fails on its own terms. Yes, the word argue 316 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 2: has multiple meanings. You can argue with a friend over dinner. 317 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: I can argue with dragon. You can argue a position 318 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 2: in a lawyview article a brief. A legal brief is 319 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: sometimes colloquially described as arguing a legal theory. But Griswold 320 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: didn't say I filed brief in a case before the 321 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: Supreme Court. She didn't say I was a party to 322 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: a Supreme Court case. She didn't say to stay in 323 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: Colorado through the Solicitor General argue before the Supreme Court 324 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 2: that Trump was ineligible. She said in writing in a 325 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: fundraising email and apparently reading from notes in front of 326 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 2: a Democrat group. Then she said verbally that she argued 327 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 2: at the United States Supreme Court. Wow. Now, in the 328 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: context of a candidate for the office of Attorney General 329 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: listing her legal credentials, no reasonable listener, So that excludes 330 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: the Democrats. Obviously, it interprets I argued at the United 331 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: States Supreme Court to mean anything other than I was 332 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: the lawyer who stood at the podium and made the 333 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: oral arguments before the nine justices of the United States 334 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 2: Supreme Court. Because that is the only meaning that carries 335 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: weight as a credential, and that is the only meaning 336 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: that justifies including it in a list of legal accomplishments. 337 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: And that is precisely the meaning that Griswold intended an 338 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: uninformed dufous voter, i e. A Democrat to take away. 339 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 2: And the campaign knows it. And that's why the defense 340 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: sounds so desperate. Now, there's a legal concept here that 341 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: any first year law student in tort law would recognize. 342 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: The test isn't what the speaker claims they meant, It's 343 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: what a reasonable person would understand them to to have said, 344 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: and by Griswold's claim, by that standard, Griswold's claim is 345 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: unambiguously misleading. And I think that's putting it charitable my 346 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: opinion is she bold faced lied to her constituents. Now 347 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: nine News also asked the campaign a follow up question, 348 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: that is, in my opinion, I got to give credit here. 349 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 2: I know, Kyle Klaar, I know I get credit, though 350 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: it's damning in its simplicity. Has Griswold ever even joined 351 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court Bar? The answer there was none. Now, 352 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 2: As I said earlier, I wanted to establish my bona 353 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 2: fides i am a member of the US United State 354 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: Supreme Court bar that I had never argued in front 355 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: of the court. I've sat in the in the galley, 356 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: I've sat and watched cases, but I would never claim 357 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: to have argued in from the United States Supreme Court. 358 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: To argue before the court, an attorney must first be 359 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: admitted to the Supreme Court Bar. Is a formal application process. 360 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: There's a paper trail. If Griswold had been admitted to 361 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court Bar, then she would be like me. 362 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: That would be one of the things that would be 363 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: one of those pieces of paper that you put on 364 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: your wall of fame that you're actually very proud of 365 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: my law degree, my bachelor's degree, my juris doctorate degree, 366 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: my photos with you know politicians and famous people. You 367 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 2: know my antique map showing the expansion of the United 368 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: States of America. If she had been admitted to the bar, 369 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: the campaign would have produced her bar membership for the 370 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 2: United States Supreme Court in thirty seconds as evidence that 371 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: her claim had some technical basis, Even though it might 372 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: be thin. The silence speaks volumes. Now, understanding why Griswold 373 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 2: is making this claim requires understanding the context of the 374 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: race that she is running. She's seeking the Democrat nomination 375 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: for Colorado Attorney General. Now that's a race that was 376 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: pointed out in that short clip by Kyle Clark that 377 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: features Boulder County District Attorney Michael Doherty. He's a seasoned prosecutor. 378 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 2: He's got real courtroom experience, someone who has actually tried cases. 379 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: He's actually cross examined witnesses. He's actually stood in front 380 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: of a judge. He's argued positions under adversarial conditions. His 381 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: legal resume is, to put it plainly, what Griswold wishes 382 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 2: her resume look like. And then nine News Well Wow 383 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: noted that when Griswold's campaign was asked whether she had 384 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 2: ever argued a case before any court, not just the 385 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 2: Supreme Court, but any court anywhere. Did you ever take 386 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: a client who municipal court over a speeding ticket, a 387 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: parking ticket? Huh, a reckless striving ticket. But do you 388 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: why the campaign could point you precisely one instance, a 389 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: single case before the Superior Court of the District at 390 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: Columbia in two thousand eleven, twenty twelve. Mm, you heard 391 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 2: what cod Clark said about that, right, we can't find 392 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: any evidence of it. 393 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 6: Right on this Iranian stuff, everybody keep saying we took 394 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 6: out forty nine leaders on the first to strike. Could 395 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 6: we just go back to gallons and courts? So I'll 396 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 6: have an idea. What the heck oall are talking about? 397 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 6: Can we go back to. 398 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: What gallons and courts rather than leaders? Oh? Oh yeah, 399 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: that's probably a good idea. We should Yeah, we should 400 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: be using the metric and go go back. Yeah, you're right. 401 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: Oh man, what have we created here, Erica? We've created 402 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: I already have it. What, I already have an email 403 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: about questions. Oh I'm not no, I'm not going to 404 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 2: repeat it, not going to do it. Oh it's that good. Uh, 405 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: it's so good that I can't well, I can't wait 406 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: to ask it. Yeah, and then what was that email again? 407 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: Michael Brown at iHeartMedia dot com. Subject line is uh 408 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: go op gov. And I already had somebody on the 409 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: text line that's too complicated. Why can't we have the 410 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: subject line GG well for a certain trucker out there. 411 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's just pretty complicated. So are you inditing truckers? 412 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 6: No? 413 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 2: No, just that one. Oh, okay, it's wanted to make 414 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 2: sure you're just be clear. Now, just that one. I 415 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: think you be overrun, you know, by an eighteen wheeler 416 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: just going Oh, there's dragon redber. 417 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 6: So. 418 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: Colorado voters, and particularly the Democrat primary voters, they're going 419 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: to make their choice in the in this Attorney General's race, 420 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: and they deserve to ask a simple point of question. 421 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: If Jimna Griswold is willing to miss represent her credentials 422 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: to win a primary election, what else is she willing 423 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 2: to misrepresent once she has the power of the AG's 424 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: office behind her. Now that is not abstract speculation. I 425 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 2: believe that character in office tends to reflect character on 426 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: the campaign trail and vice versa. The willingness to tell 427 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: voters what they want to hear or what you think 428 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 2: is going to sound good rather than what is true. 429 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: Doesn't disappear when you take the oath of office. In fact, 430 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: it tends to get worse because the incentives to maintain 431 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: the fiction increase with the stakes. We've got real legal 432 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: battles ahead of us. We're going to be active in 433 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: legal conflict with the federal government over any number of issues, 434 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 2: immigration enforcement, environmental regulation, healthcare, election law. And the AG 435 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: is going to be making strategic legal judgments, crafting arguments, 436 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 2: hiring and directing some of the best lawyers in the state, 437 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: and appearing or or deciding who appears in course everywhere 438 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: from the Denver to court to the US Supreme Court. 439 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: That job of AG requires somebody whose judgment can be trusted, 440 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 2: whose words mean something, whose professional representations are reliable. And 441 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: Jenna Griswold has now given the voters in Colorado a 442 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: concrete data point about the reliability of her professional representations. 443 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: They ought to use it. The evidence is uncontested. Jenna 444 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: Griswold repeatedly told voters in front fundraising emails, candidate appearances, 445 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: and in written correspondence to Democrat Party members ahead of 446 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: the caucuses that she argued before the United States Supreme Court, 447 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: and the case she references was argued by the Solicitor General, 448 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: and by the way, Colorado lost that case nine to zero. 449 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: Griswold was a name defendant. That was it. They can't 450 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: even they can't even tell you whether she's ever even 451 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 2: admitted to the US Supreme Court bar And the one 452 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: other case of courtroom experience her campaign could identify is 453 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: not verifiable. And in fact, as Cayle Clark points out, 454 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 2: we're not even sure that she was even a lawyer 455 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: when that case was argued. So now the defense is 456 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: that the word argue has multiple meanings, you know, it 457 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: depends on what the meaning it is is. In Colorado's 458 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: own nine News legal analysts, a lawyer who's actually argued 459 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: before the Supreme Court called the claim inaccurate and a misrepresentation. 460 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: At best, this is a deliberate exploitation of ambiguity to 461 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: mislead voters in the thinking that she has the legal 462 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: experience that she does not have. At worst, it is 463 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: a knowing lie to the voters, repeated and scripted. Designed 464 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: the paper over the central vulnerability of her campaign, and 465 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: that is she does not have the experience to be 466 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: the Colorado Attorney gen. And, as I said at the 467 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: very beginning, the reason this topic, even I believe, deserve 468 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: so much time. This is sop for Democrats standard operating procedure. 469 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: Just lie, just absolutely lie all the time. So either 470 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: deliberate exploitation of ambiguity to mislead voters in the thinking 471 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: she has experience that she does not have, or, as 472 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: I believe, it's at worst, it's a knowing lie. It's 473 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: repeated and scripted, done with her approval. She said it 474 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: on multiple platforms, multiple times, and neither characteristic. Either a 475 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: exploitation of ambiguity or a direct lie. Neither characterization is 476 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: compatible with the job that she's asking voters to give her. 477 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: The Colorado Attorney General is the state's top lawyer. The 478 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 2: first and most fundamental qualification for that job is honesty. 479 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: Honesty with the courts, with clients, with the public, and 480 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: about yourself by your own campaign's conduct, she has failed 481 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: that test before she's even gotten one vote. Tell everybody 482 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: you know Jenna Griswold, in my opinion, is a bald 483 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: faced liar.