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Speaker 2: is on Saturday, six thirty pm, kickoff your home for

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Speaker 2: Gophers football. The fan joining me now is the vox himself,

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Speaker 2: Mike grim At Mike Grim three via X. You know,

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Speaker 2: like Ron Johnson put the number first, you chose to

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Speaker 2: do it after yards.

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Speaker 1: We were both and we both used three. How about that?

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Speaker 1: Good to see you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and how about that Drake Lindsay performance last Saturday.

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Speaker 2: It was one of the better quarterbacking performances I've seen

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Speaker 2: in my time. There's been good ones over the years.

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Speaker 2: Adam Weber had bunches of yards over the years. When

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Speaker 2: I first got to town.

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Speaker 1: You know, Adam's big issue was he had a new

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator every third week, it seemed like, and so

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Speaker 1: he was learning new offenses every year. But what a

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Speaker 1: talent he was. And then you know, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to you know, I'll leave guys out. But Tanner Morgan

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Speaker 1: had a couple of big three hundred plus passing yard games. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Brosmer had his day last year, his days last year.

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Speaker 1: And this is I mean, it isn't very often one

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Speaker 1: a quarterback throws for over three hundred for the Gophers.

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Speaker 1: He threw for three twenty four in his fourth career start,

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Speaker 1: with three touchdowns no interceptions against the Rutgers defense that

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Speaker 1: statistically hasn't been very good this year. But they've got

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Speaker 1: some dudes that that defense is probably underperforming a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Some of them might be who they've played, probably not

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Speaker 1: might be some coaching related sabotage they are going on

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Speaker 1: in terms of the defensive coordinator and in his history

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But the bottom line is they

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Speaker 1: have and they're too deep on the Rutger side of

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Speaker 1: the defense. Twenty two guys on the two deep, seventeen

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Speaker 1: or seniors, nine of them the eleven are senior starters.

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Speaker 1: So they've they've got some guys that have been around

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Speaker 1: the block. So to throw three touchdowns, no picks, go

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Speaker 2: It's not that, you know, I'm deep diving and losing

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Speaker 2: sleep at night trying to dig into exactly how PJ

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Speaker 2: wants to attack a team, because, frankly, I think trends

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Speaker 2: have become stereotypes that have become habits and routines and philosophies.

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Speaker 1: He likes to run the ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I actually thought into this game, and you know,

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Speaker 2: Darius Taylor, we had talked about this a week ago.

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Speaker 2: It's just it should have been because they've been giving

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Speaker 2: guys get the chance on Tuesday at Tipsy Steer to

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Speaker 2: chat with him on the gop of Football Weekly Show.

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Speaker 2: You know, just that had to be a big confidence

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Speaker 2: be able to say, well, this is becoming a throwing

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna let Drake try to handle business and then

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Speaker 2: he does like that. That was just kind of fun

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Speaker 2: to see how things trans not transgressed, but progressed. I

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Speaker 2: should say it transpired either or transpired. Yes, I leaving

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Speaker 1: I thought that that third quarter drive to come out

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Speaker 1: to my point. That is one of the better drives

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Speaker 1: what the what what the first and second, third reads

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Speaker 1: This might be the best defense in the country that

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Speaker 1: what's the who's the rest of the pops out of

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Speaker 1: the casket? What's his name? The undertaker?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that Patricia. His career has been dead like

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Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of I'm glad you mentioned that

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Speaker 2: particular drive in the third quarter. Just one or two

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Speaker 2: more on Drake. There's more people on the team I

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Speaker 1: But the quarterback is such a fun it's such an

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Speaker 2: Well, and it's it's one of those things too, where

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Speaker 2: what I just watched from Carson, just put number twelve

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Speaker 1: Just put Brosmer in there by the way sidebar. If

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Speaker 2: But the but I'm glad you mentioned those drives because

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Speaker 1: You need those types of plays.

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Speaker 2: But the issue, whether you're a Vikings fan, you're watching

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Speaker 2: way down the field, that that would be the sign

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Speaker 1: That would be the sign of a sign of command.

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Speaker 2: And everybody misses receivers, right, I mean, you know Tom

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Hopefully for Ohio State, who's also a red shirt freshman,

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Speaker 1: we need we need him to miss a few guys

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Speaker 2: But the but the sign of command I think was

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Speaker 2: And again, as we need to we need this kid

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Speaker 2: I want to see what he does, no question, with

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Speaker 2: a bigger spread of opportunity. And I just really loved

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I thought he made and this is

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Speaker 1: what you look for, right, And it's not going to

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Speaker 1: think up ways Like Minnesota and Iowa and Wisconsin and

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Speaker 1: some of these others, they're trying to find ways to

436
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Speaker 1: save money because it's, well, we got twenty million. Now

437
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,240
Speaker 1: you got to pay to the players right off the top,

438
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Speaker 1: and how do we balance this budget? And you got

439
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,960
Speaker 1: to figure out ways to save money. Maybe you got

440
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Speaker 1: to bus to a certain volleyball game or football buses

441
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 1: to one game or whatever. And Ohio State's just inventing

442
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 1: ways to spend money. They're like on their third basketball

443
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 1: practice facility in like fifteen years, because they just they have.

444
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Speaker 1: Me mean, they got one hundred plus thousand people paying

445
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,399
Speaker 1: over one hundred bucks a ticket. Some of those tickets

446
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 1: are two or three hundred dollars in the real good seats.

447
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 1: And when we were there last time, they were building

448
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Speaker 1: new premium seats. Of course you're not building you're not

449
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 1: putting that kind of money in unless those premium seats

450
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Speaker 1: are already pre sold, right right. So yeah, it's a

451
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Speaker 1: different stratosphere. So and I'm not saying there's no hope.

452
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Speaker 1: Like I said, once or twice a year, there's a

453
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Speaker 1: game like this where you're like, how the heck did

454
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Speaker 1: that happen, and the golfers aren't dog me like the

455
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Speaker 1: golphers have. Some players absolutely and in fact, the last

456
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Speaker 1: time they were there that it was close at halftime

457
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 1: and then the talent just you could just tell the

458
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 1: gap was there, and I think the first hand off

459
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Speaker 1: of the second half was an eighty yard run and

460
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Speaker 1: pretty soon it was another big score, and all of

461
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Speaker 1: a sudden, instead of being tight at halftime, I forget

462
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Speaker 1: what the final was, you know, lost it by the

463
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Speaker 1: career that would have been Travion It was I think

464
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Speaker 1: Travion Henderson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's crazy, you know. It's you mentioned the

466
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Speaker 2: stratosphere and I was just thinking about it. I have

467
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Speaker 2: a neighbor of three or four houses down down my

468
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Speaker 2: block and he's he's an Ohio State guy and his

469
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Speaker 2: parents were boosters that they actually walked around with the

470
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Speaker 2: buck eyes in their pocket.

471
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Speaker 1: Yeah, with a little Are they like nuts? I think

472
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Speaker 1: it's a nut, yeah, yeah.

473
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Speaker 2: And I had no idea what a buck guy was

474
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Speaker 2: and I even asked, and of course he was very,

475
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Speaker 2: very willing to pull them out of his pocket.

476
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

477
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Speaker 2: It's kind of weird when someone's like, well, let me

478
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Speaker 2: show you my not Yes, I have, I hold them

479
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 2: in my pocket. It's kind of a weird thing, but

480
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Speaker 2: I've gotten past it and they're they're terrific people. Well,

481
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 2: they've like one of their big fan sites, like the

482
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Speaker 2: Ryan Burns of of Ohio State is literally buck nuts

483
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Speaker 2: dot com. It is okay, well to that end, to

484
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 2: that end, my neighbor actually told me after that team

485
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 2: won the national championship they weren't sure if they wanted

486
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Speaker 2: to keep Ryan.

487
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Speaker 1: No. Right, it's it's just insanity.

488
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Speaker 2: And we can't relate of course here in the in

489
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Speaker 2: the Midwest with with our situation and you know, urban

490
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: campus versus institution town and Columbus, et cetera. But they

491
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Speaker 2: are so nuts about that team and so and simultaneou

492
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Speaker 2: so down on Ryan's days that he brings you the

493
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 2: trophy you've been begging for. Yeah, I don't really know

494
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Speaker 2: if he should stick around. It's because he lost to

495
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Speaker 2: Michigan twice in a row.

496
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Speaker 1: That's's it. Like, remember after that game, there were people saying,

497
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Speaker 1: I think.

498
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Speaker 2: There are fans that would rather he go undefeated for

499
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Speaker 2: a decade against Michigan and not win a title versus maybe.

500
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Speaker 1: Lose to Michigan.

501
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Speaker 2: Here there even twice, as you mentioned, but bring titles

502
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Speaker 2: if it's kind of.

503
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Speaker 1: Crazy, and I don't think it's beyond the realm. So

504
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Speaker 1: who did they play or they played Oregon? Right in

505
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Speaker 1: that first game of the playoffs. Oregon really got stricted

506
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Speaker 1: by the way by the seating. Oregon was the number

507
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Speaker 1: one seed in the tournament. I think, right, they were

508
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Speaker 1: number one, and they had to play Ohio State in

509
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 1: the first round because the remember the weaker conferences champions

510
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: got buys. Yeah, yeah, and so I think Ohio State

511
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: lost to Oregon in the regular season. So Oregon was

512
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten champion. I think they were, and they

513
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Speaker 1: won the Big Ten championships. I think they were the

514
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Speaker 1: number one overall seed. They got the to buy and

515
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Speaker 1: their their gift was you got to play the eighth

516
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Speaker 1: seed or whoever Ohio State and they got rocked by twenty. Well,

517
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: a lot of State beats Tennessee in the home game, right,

518
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Speaker 1: So if Ohio State loses to Tennessee, there's a ninety

519
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: percent chance Ryan day is is fire probably about that. Yeah,

520
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Speaker 1: if he loses to Oregon, it wouldn't have been beyond

521
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Speaker 1: the realm of possibility that he gets fit better than

522
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Speaker 1: a coin flip maybe right, Yeah, I mean, which is crazy,

523
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: It's insane. So in essence, he wins the national title

524
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Speaker 1: to save his job because he lost to Michigan. Uh

525
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 1: and yeah, that's the that's the man.

526
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Speaker 2: I'm remembering this playoff like the cam scattabo from from

527
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 2: Arizona State, like that game with Texas. I think it

528
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 2: went to overtime. This playoff system kind of kicks ass.

529
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Speaker 1: I mean that they have changed the rule now to

530
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Speaker 1: where it doesn't go to the bid or the buy, right.

531
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Speaker 1: I think they have changed that rule where the bye

532
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Speaker 1: does not now go to the four conference champions, although

533
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Speaker 1: that could I don't know if that starts this year

534
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Speaker 1: or into the future, but you know, there's often now

535
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: we have many things. Essentially it'll be a sixteen teamer.

536
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: The Big Ten's talking about a twenty eight teamer, you know,

537
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: who knows where it all is going to end and

538
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Speaker 1: whatever we.

539
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Speaker 2: Can do for I mean, and this is with all

540
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Speaker 2: respect to to the Gophers. When you're in a conference

541
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Speaker 2: right now that's eighteen deep and potentially there's still room

542
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 2: to grow there and we have Oregon in Michigan and

543
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: Ohio State, et cetera. I don't want to say, what's

544
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: the point but to some end, like what is the

545
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: end goal for a good program, a solid, stable program

546
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Speaker 2: that when the schedule comes out, you probably, if we're

547
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Speaker 2: all being honest and realistic, you don't have the playoff

548
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: bracket is not accessible to you.

549
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Speaker 1: You will not be a part of that.

550
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Speaker 2: So you can appreciate New Year's Bowls and all of

551
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 2: this and good games and the frivolity and the pomp

552
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: and circumstance of it, but in terms of hoisting titles,

553
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 2: you're probably out of the mix. So is it expanding

554
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: the playoffs? And maybe it's splitting these larger conferences. I'm

555
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: just curious because that that's something they.

556
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Speaker 1: Absolutely have to work on. Yeah, I think I think

557
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 1: it's accessible. I wouldn't go as far as you just

558
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Speaker 1: did twelve teams. I mean indianimated. I don't mean to

559
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 1: be negative. No, No, that's true. You know, like if

560
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: Indiana can make it, But that's signetty cap man he

561
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Speaker 1: can call. He may have completely turned around that program,

562
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: no doubt they're they're playing well again. So what he's

563
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: done is mighty impressive. And you have to tip your

564
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Speaker 1: cap he timed it well. And I'm not. This is

565
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Speaker 1: not to take anything away from him. This is just

566
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Speaker 1: a couple of observations. Timed it well in that and

567
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Speaker 1: again the transfer portals open to anybody. All those guys

568
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: he took, other teams could have tried to out recruit

569
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Speaker 1: him for but he did get some benefit in that.

570
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Speaker 1: He got was it James Madison? I believe he came

571
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Speaker 1: from He got like twelve guys from there that come

572
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Speaker 1: in former president? Yeah, former president? Was he James Madison

573
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Speaker 1: a president at some point?

574
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think I think he might have been early ones. Yeah, anyway,

576
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Speaker 1: he he he brought in guys from there that knew

577
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Speaker 1: the system. So now instead of having to teach everybody

578
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: what your system is, you have thirteen guys walking around practice,

579
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Speaker 1: who can you know? As PJ O he says, player

580
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: led teams are the best teams. And so you got

581
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: players that know the system, they don't all have to

582
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: start over. And let's face it, ten years ago, nine

583
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: years ago and PJ took over, there was no portal.

584
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Speaker 1: And this isn't to suggest that there's a correlation here

585
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: or not, but it was much harder right off the

586
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: bat to flip it and to Signetty's credit. He brought

587
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: those dudes. He got a quarterback from the MAC who

588
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: turned out to be a Heisman Trophy candidate. And the

589
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: guy can coach and he's so brazen about it, it's unbelievable.

590
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: Like even in the in Vegas well two years ago

591
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: in Indy for the Big Ten Tournament, for the Big

592
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: Ten mediad, I should say, and this is where when

593
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Speaker 1: PJ in the pre this year he was talking about

594
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: being delusional. Let's just be delusional enough to think we

595
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Speaker 1: might be able to make the playoffs. I will say this.

596
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Speaker 1: When I was two years ago in Indianapolis, Mike Loxley,

597
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: that Maryland team was coming off of a pretty decent year.

598
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Speaker 1: The prior year would have been the twenty three SEASONI

599
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: and into twenty four and he basically had he delivered

600
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Speaker 1: one of the great lines which I've actually used, because

601
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Speaker 1: he was like, I'm going to say it. You want

602
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: to be a playoff team, we want to contend for

603
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: the Big Ten title. And he goes. People are going

604
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Speaker 1: to laugh at that. I know it. He goes, and

605
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: this is one I want to I'm gonna paraphrase, I think,

606
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: but it's close to this. He goes, and I don't

607
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: care because my give a crap tank is pretty much

608
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: on empty unbelievable line, and I'm thinking, well, this guy

609
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: is a little crazy. And then like three coaches later,

610
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: Kirk Signetti gets up there for Indiana. You're like Indiana

611
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, we're going to contend and we're

612
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: gonna win right away. And I'm like, this guy is delusional.

613
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: I literally thought this guy's delusional. And then he takes

614
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. So anyone who you know wants to

615
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: snark a little bit at PJ saying b delusional. So

616
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Speaker 1: back to your question, I wouldn't say that. I'd say, actually,

617
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: access is is. Nothing's easy, but access is better now

618
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: obviously than when it was four teams. But I do

619
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Speaker 1: think I think your general point is correct. People in

620
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: Madison are having to figure out, oh, we're not going

621
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: to make a Big ten title game anymore. Why fickle

622
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: fickle there are besign him to an extension. It's awful. Yeah,

623
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: regardless of who the coach is there, the thing has

624
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: changed now there is no Big ten West and East,

625
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: so access to the Big Ten championship game means you

626
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: have to finish one in two, one or two in

627
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: an eighteen team league, that access is probably not available

628
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: to Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa. The way it has been, Iowa

629
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: played in like two of the latter or three three

630
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: of the last five Big Ten championships. Before that, Wisconsin

631
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: played in a bunch, so that those two fan bases

632
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: are gonna have to choose a week West. Of course,

633
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: for Iah it was it was and look the two

634
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 1: the two divisions were basically equal. Yeah, except one division

635
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: had or had Michigan and Ohio State. Because if you

636
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: if you eliminate those two, like the West would have

637
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: been fine, West would have been better had those two

638
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: teams been in the West. Even look at I mean

639
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: if if even one of them had been in the West,

640
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: because had to head outside of those the West actually

641
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: beat the East more if you take out those two.

642
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,239
Speaker 1: So it was basically those two teams nullified everything. And

643
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: in the East you had to play those two teams

644
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: every year and in the West you got them every

645
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: now and then. So yeah, even Penn State would be

646
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: complaining about that. The reason that they're not.

647
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: Divisions is Penn State they had they had to take advantage,

648
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: I mean they should. They could have beaten in the

649
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: whiteout game against Oregon. That's that's recent. But James Franklin's like,

650
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Speaker 2: what do I gotta do here? Want to produce the

651
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Speaker 2: top five teams every season? But as long as I

652
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Speaker 2: got a hardship the house.

653
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Speaker 1: Yeah. But Penn State was pushing the Big Ten to

654
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: eliminate divisions anyway because they always had, you know, just

655
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Speaker 1: talking to people, they always had Wisconsin on the mind,

656
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: like Wisconsin should not be in that Big Ten title

657
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: game this much, We're better than Wisconsin. He's probably right.

658
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: That was well, it wasn't him, but it was people

659
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: at Penn State really pushing for years about that. And

660
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Speaker 1: then when they went to no divisions, the people at

661
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: Penn State were saying, well, let's see how Wisconsin for

662
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: They just had dialed in on Wisconsin making a lot

663
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Speaker 1: of those Big Ten championship games. So places that have

664
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Speaker 1: been used to going to some Big Ten title games

665
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Speaker 1: that's off the table now. However, the access now that

666
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Speaker 1: teams need to be playing for like Minnesota and Wisconsin, Nebraska, Iowa.

667
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: You know, to me, those are the three players. Is

668
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Speaker 1: the playoff. Here's a twelve teen playoff in twenty nineteen.

669
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: There's a pretty good chance Minnesota would have made a

670
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: twelve team playoff. Yeah, they were ten or eleven rank

671
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: they were ten to two. I think the rankings would

672
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: have been a little different. The fact that they lost

673
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: the last game of the regular season I think could

674
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Speaker 1: have played a role that could have knocked them out,

675
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Speaker 1: and that was an ugly game against wiscons Most years,

676
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Speaker 1: I think a ten win team in a twelve division

677
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: or a twelve team playoff will likely be in Okay,

678
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: and it's going to go to sixteens. There's no question

679
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: it's going to go to sixteen. So then you have

680
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: even more access. So the fan base not just here,

681
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: what's cut wherever, is going to have to change the

682
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: Big Ten title game one. It's really rendered meaningless other

683
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: than the winner gets the buye in the playoff, right,

684
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: the loser has to play a play in game or

685
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Speaker 1: a quarter whatever you want to call it, quarterfinal play

686
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: and I don't know what they first round whatever you

687
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: want to call it. On campus somewhere. You might host it,

688
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: you might be on the road, depending on where you

689
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Speaker 1: fall in the seating. I think Ohio or a Penn

690
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: State lost the Big Ten title game and hosted was

691
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: it SMU or something something like that last year in

692
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: the Big in the first round. Forget who they hosted anyway,

693
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: they got to host a first round, it was SMU. Yeah.

694
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: So so the point is that's now what you're shooting

695
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: for is a playoff situation. So if the longest answer

696
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: in the history of the world now of that question,

697
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: what what should Minnesota fans think? My theory is you

698
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: should expect and hope that your team every now and then.

699
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Speaker 1: I don't think it can be in every year thing

700
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: unless somebody wants to write a billion dollar check and

701
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, scholarship it out over the course of a

702
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: number of years to where you can you can get

703
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Speaker 1: into the same serving line as Ohio State and some

704
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: of those others. But that doesn't make it illegal to

705
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: try to contend for a playoff. Berth right, every few years,

706
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: be in it, be in the mix. You don't even

707
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: mean you have to be you know, get into November

708
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: with a chance to look if we go, if we

709
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: go three and on in these last three games, got

710
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: a shot to be in the playoffs. That's the new

711
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: what's got to be the new push. And over the

712
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: course of a decade, if you can do that two

713
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: times would be great. Once would be fine. If you

714
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: go ten or twelve or thirteen years without that, then

715
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: you it's a little lean. You got a problem, you know.

716
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: So that would be my opinion. And some people are

717
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: going to say why you're short serving it because I

718
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: live in reality, man, Yeah, you know, And and I

719
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: don't even think people in charge it att And I'm

720
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: not saying that's just Minnesota's deal. That's going to be

721
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: like Wisconsin's been really good. Yeah, that's got to be

722
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: part of their new attitude as well. I agree, I agree,

723
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: that's that's awesome. Man.

724
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Speaker 2: Thanks for hanging out with the studio this morning, and

725
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: have a blast at at Ohio State. And yeah, could

726
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: see the shoe and shock the world do it. Let's

727
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: get into the playoffs. Why don't we get into the

728
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: bus playoffs?

729
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: Do you have something via the power trip you're supposed

730
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: to say, I do one other quick thing on that

731
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: the way places that are a little under under resource less. Sure,

732
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: the way you can do that is kind of what's

733
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: brewing a little bit here. You got a red shirt

734
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: freshman quarterback with some talented young pieces around, some transfers

735
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: that have come in that have multiple years and if

736
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: it's not this year. Then you move along, bring everybody back,

737
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: add a couple more pieces, and all of a sudden

738
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: you hit the right mix of guys that have played

739
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: with each other for a while, and you hit it

740
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: and then you get interested like part of a couple

741
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: of these guys that are young kids. The twenty nineteen

742
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: season still resonates for some of them because Drake Lindsey said,

743
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: that's when he first found out about Minnesota. He's watching

744
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: them play and roll the boat. That's kind of cool.

745
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: And you know, in twenty nineteen he was like thirteen

746
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: years old, right, So you get one hit like that

747
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you create some interest. So

748
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: that's how you do it at an under resource place

749
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 1: is you get a group of kids that are together

750
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: and on year two or three of them being together,

751
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: and you supplement it with a few pieces and transfer

752
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: portal kids. And at the end of the day, you

753
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: got to have excellent quarterback play. There's no teams making

754
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs without excellent quarterback play anymore. And I think

755
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: I think the golfers have a chance over the next

756
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: few years to have excellent quarterback play.

757
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: I'm excited for Drake and I'm excited for you and

758
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: Darryl and guards you on the call Saturday night, my friend,

759
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: thanks so much.

760
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: You gotta thank you, Nord. I'll always enjoy it. And

761
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: I do have a line. Yes, I can't remember it though.

762
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: That's fine. Hockey emailed it to me so perfect. You'll

763
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: have to tune in listen on Saturday night.

764
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

765
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Speaker 2: That's Mike grim at Mike Grimm and the Number three

766
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Speaker 2: via x Gophers at Ohio State Saturday night, six thirty pm.

767
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: We're a bit behind it, but we got a cash

768
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: giveaway and Brett will take care of that.

769
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Speaker 1: We'll be back in minutes. Nine to noon, The.

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Speaker 2: Time for a truncated edition nine to noon of Vikes Bites,

775
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776
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777
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Speaker 2: So Thousand Hills, we love you for Clearwater, Minnesota's finest

780
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: Thousand Hills. Time for a couple of bites here, some nibbles.

781
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 2: What do we got, Brett.

782
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: Fikes bites, Hikes bites.

783
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got a lot. We're trying to piece together

784
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 4: the injury report for today. I can look at yesterday's

785
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 4: but just piecing together the reporters that were there at

786
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 4: the practice in the English countryside. Darre saw another rest day,

787
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 4: so that was planned, part of the plan. No problems there.

788
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 4: No jurgins as well for the second straight day. JJ

789
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 4: McCarthy made a few throws on the side. But here's

790
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 4: the big thing. The following This is an Alex Lewis tweet.

791
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 4: The following offensive Lineman, we're taking center snaps today in

792
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Speaker 4: the English country side. Do this Blake Brandell, something called

793
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Speaker 4: Henry byrd verse, Sean Lee and the guy who apparently

794
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: kicked your puppy Pete and your cereal and slashed your tires.

795
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Speaker 2: Joe Huber. First of all, I must say this, Joe

796
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 2: Huber is just a name that.

797
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Speaker 4: You've been You've thrown him under the bus, it's.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not about being down on Joe Huber. It's

799
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 2: just that problems when when you're getting to the names

800
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: and you mentioned it, Henry Bird, ver Sean Lee. When

801
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: you start getting down the row on some names here

802
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: taking center snaps Brandell, there was ash. This has to

803
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: be two three camps to go now, maybe because at

804
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: one point the team re ups Brandell. It's like a

805
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: three year, nine million dollar deal of some sort. But

806
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: into the season, I forget what the circumstances were, but

807
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: he was actually taking snaps at center and it just

808
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: kind of raised a few eyebrowns, like, well, we got Bradbury.

809
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what the idea is here,

810
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: but certainly Brandell the Swiss Army Knife potentially on the

811
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: old line that he is, and it's good to know

812
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 2: that the guy can. There was an issue with Garrett Bradbury.

813
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: It's good to know that he could step in and

814
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: do his thing. But he's definitely not going to be

815
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Speaker 2: playing center. So now you have Brandell, you got Huber,

816
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 2: who again, I have nothing. I hope Joe Huber is

817
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: a starting guard in the NFL for a decade. I

818
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: hope he's terrific, but under no, I mean just nobody's

819
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: fathoming the idea that four games now into week five,

820
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 2: that Joe Huber is potentially going to be taking snaps

821
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: at center and practice because they can't freaking figure out

822
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 2: what on earth they're going to do to field five

823
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: healthy guys to protect Carson Wentz on Sunday at Tottenham.

824
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Speaker 1: So it's those names are not reassuring.

825
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: Those names do not inspire a ton of confidence in

826
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Speaker 2: terms of what the offensive line is going to provide

827
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Speaker 2: where people are even going to freaking line up on Sunday.

828
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: So yes, it's it's not about Joe Huber. Brett, you

829
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: know as you are you're a Packers fan. Are you

830
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: a Brewers guy? I know you're a Braves guy. Well,

831
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: just well classic classic Iowa like we were talking with

832
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: We were talking with Grim last segment where you kind

833
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: of do growing up in Iowa have the freedom maybe

834
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: maybe it's maybe it's maybe it's Hawkeyes or Cyclones at

835
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: the college ranks. You told me that your father actually

836
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: infected you with the virus that is the Badgers.

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Speaker 1: Is that accurate?

838
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: It's true, I don't really College sports just didn't do

839
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 4: it for me like it used to in high school.

840
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 4: So I wouldn't really hold that against me. You can

841
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 4: hate me for the Packer bit, but that's fine.

842
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: That's the thing.

843
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: There are all things. We all have things we have

844
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: to resent our parents for. My father happens to be

845
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Speaker 2: a Packers fan, my grandfather is an owner.

846
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's it's it's it's in your blood.

847
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: Christmases are tough, I will tell you that.

848
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: But but to that end, you know, the not no

849
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: problem with Joe Hubert, but growing up in Iowa, you

850
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: just don't have choices. You're at some point like if

851
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: you if you grow up in the Quad Cities, Cubs

852
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: or Cardinals, maybe.

853
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe it's.

854
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: Hawkeyes or Cyclones to some extent, but I know Bears fans,

855
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: Vikes fans. I mean, it's just it. It's a mess

856
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: in Iowa for proports, sports love. You can pick just

857
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: anybody you want.

858
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 4: Because it's three hours to hear it's four change to Chicago,

859
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 4: it's five to Green Bay, it's three to Saint Louis,

860
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 4: it's four to Kansas City. I think I got those

861
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 4: numbers mixed up. But like for instance, no one cares

862
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 4: about your fantasy league, but just my group of friends

863
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 4: from high school. Let's see Chiefs, Chiefs, Steelers, Steelers, Rams, Saints, Steelers, Saints, Chargers, Vikings, Falcons, Colts.

864
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 4: That's my high school friend fantasy league. That's their allegiances

865
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Speaker 4: could all over the place.

866
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Speaker 1: I can see India.

867
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Speaker 2: If you grow up on the east side, that makes sense,

868
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: south southwest side, you're probably going to be a Chiefs fan.

869
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: That's okay. What I am glad though I'll say this

870
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Speaker 2: to tip my cap to is he didn't mention, Like

871
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: I just figured there'd be at least one buddy of

872
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,479
Speaker 2: yours who huge Cowboys fan. Oh, he's loving what Aaron

873
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: Judge is doing in New York. You can't wait to

874
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: see what Lebron and Luca can do this time around.

875
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: Like you didn't. You didn't mention any of those guys,

876
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: so you know, cowboys in the mix, etc.

877
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm glad that you didn't have that going

878
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: for you or against you.

879
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: I should say, well, they wouldn't be in my league

880
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 4: if that was the case.

881
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: Or you can also say, on the other hand, the

882
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 2: benefit is you're not by blood and by location latched

883
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: onto a team that is zero and four in Super

884
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: Bowls and hasn't been back to one since the seventies.

885
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: So there are other ways.

886
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: To look at that too, your ability to peek over

887
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: the fence and see if the grass is indeed greener.

888
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Speaker 1: We'll have more Vikes Bites later.

889
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, the injury report is preposterous right now, specifically the

890
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: focal point being the offensive line. And we're gonna pause,

891
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: come back, Ben Lieber, And it sounds like Pa is

892
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: actually going to jump on with liber at ten am,

893
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: so we're gonna chat with both of them, and I'm

894
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 2: sure health will be part of that conversation.

895
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Speaker 1: But we'll pause briefly, come back, catch up on the

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Speaker 1: clock here. Nine to noon. Vikes Bites brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Thousand Hills. Thank you.

898
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: All of you, whether you are educators, innovators, or I

899
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: don't know whatever you are. Thanks for listening tonight to noon.

900
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 2: Thanks for the talkbacks as well. Dramatic pause.

901
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Speaker 5: Sorry, no, this is Ralph ful New Jersey. I am

902
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 5: tired of an offensive line that's inept for all these years.

903
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 5: Who is the strengthening coach on this team? That's what

904
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 5: you've got to figure out. There's too many injuries. Nagan injuries, hamstrings, ankles,

905
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 5: what's going on? Skull forever?

906
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: What's going on? What's going on?

907
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: Forget what the name of that song? Maybe it's maybe

908
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: the song itself is what's going on? I'm asking myself

909
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: that exact same question. Ralph school Forever, Good.

910
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 3: Morning, gentlemen, want Kenny and Dalouth. My question to you is,

911
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 3: I know, as banged up as we are in Cleveland

912
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: starting a rookie quarterback, will that be vote well for

913
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 3: the Vikings? Possibly? And also if Cleveland does lose to

914
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: the Vikings, is Kevin Stevanski possibly on the chopping block

915
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: going one and four? If we win?

916
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: Thanks, have a good day guys. By Yeah, you have

917
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: a good day as well.

918
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Speaker 2: Kenny, appreciate the talkbacks free iHeartRadio app Yeah into this game.

919
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if maybe maybe it just needs to end.

920
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: Similarly with the Minnesota Twins, if you were thinking, what

921
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 2: are if you put a list together, what are the

922
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: top ten reasons that this organization is franchise is as

923
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: destitute as it is. I'm sure Roco Baldelli would have

924
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: made the top ten of factors involved. But given the

925
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: temperature of things, the pulse, given the sentiment of the

926
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: fan base. I'd imagine ownership group and Falvee would be like,

927
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Speaker 2: I mean, you just write po lads, polelads, Pole lads,

928
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 2: Pole lads, pole ads. Falve maybe Falvey again, and then

929
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 2: injuries to stars. You know who's their strength and conditioning coach, right,

930
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: and and you'd put that in there, and then somewhere

931
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Speaker 2: in the top ten, let's say it's seven, eight, nine.

932
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Speaker 1: Ish, it would be it'd be Rocco.

933
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 2: I think I think Stefanski, two time Coach of the Year,

934
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Speaker 2: what he has done with the Cleveland Browns, even finding

935
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Speaker 2: their way to the playoffs. He was out for that

936
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Speaker 2: for that wild card game. I think it was against

937
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: the Steelers. Baker and company go out. Maybe Alex van

938
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 2: Pelt was the fill in coach. We dealt with that

939
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: in a regular season game. Mike Preefer was coaching the

940
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: Vikings while Zimmer Zimmer had that nasty eye situation feeling

941
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: muf to punt Jeremiah Searles with a false start on

942
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: a two point conversion. Now the two points from the seven.

943
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 2: I think it was an incomplete to Jerrick McKinnon and

944
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: that was all she wrote, and the issues abound. I

945
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Speaker 2: just I look at this team. I look at the

946
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 2: defense he's built from a health standpoint, whether it's it's

947
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: the devastating injury that they endured with with Chubb offensively,

948
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 2: just kind of the in and out nature of things.

949
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: Had had some options with, you know, in Djoku. Not

950
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 2: a bad option. Certainly Amari Cooper had some good days there,

951
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: but it's really stemmed from finding the right quarterback to

952
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 2: this spot and the front office, even with what was

953
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: maybe later confirmed, I forget the timeline of the Deshaun

954
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: Watson ridiculousness where when he went to Cleveland, I believe

955
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: the buzzards and the news was circling, but maybe there

956
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: hadn't been like in process suits yet and they commit

957
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 2: the what two hundred and forty million guaranteed to him,

958
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 2: and that was just a complete disaster. And now DeShawn

959
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: whether it was the social implications of that that changed

960
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: who he was as a player. Now you're having these injuries.

961
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: It's just been nothing short of cataclysmically bad. Uh with

962
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: the with the Deshaun Watson situation, and now you're going

963
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: back to the well, you're trying your hand with Flacco.

964
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: Flaco won you some games a few years ago A

965
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and now he's just thrown it

966
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: to the other team more than he's throwing it to

967
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: his own team. You have Shadu or Sanders doing mind

968
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: bits in the locker room. Certainly a talented player, but

969
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: maybe you kind of start to understand why he was

970
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: a Day three selection and nouns Dylan Gabriel, I mean

971
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Speaker 2: that the carousel qb for for Stefanski in some ways, it's.

972
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Speaker 1: Almost like he never left the Vikings.

973
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Speaker 2: So he was thinking to himself, I'm looking I'm looking

974
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Speaker 2: forward to to a head coaching opportunity.

975
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Speaker 1: You know, for me, it's it's it's not.

976
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Speaker 2: Zimmer ESQ, but it's kind of a Kubiak esque offense.

977
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna run the ball and I'm gonna

978
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: strike downfield and and I need, you know, to find

979
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: their way to Miles Garrett and it just some really

980
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 2: really good pieces defensively he puts this thing together, and

981
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: just the quarterback situation, I just I hope when I

982
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: find my first head coaching job, I can find some

983
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: stability at that position. And he actually picked the franchise

984
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: maybe that has had more instability at the quarterback position

985
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Speaker 2: than anyone in the NFL, including the Vikings over the

986
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Speaker 2: last twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: So it's I don't think.

988
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 2: I don't think his job's going to be in jeopardy

989
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: simply because if they lose to the Vikings on Sunday,

990
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: I think I think the sand is running out of

991
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: that hour glass just in general, where similar to that Roco.

992
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: The reason I brought that up is kind of the

993
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: idea is, can't fire the players, and so you're gonna

994
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: make at some Pointstfanski's probably gonna lose his job because

995
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 2: of their inability to find somebody to operate under center

996
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: at a high level. And we'll see what Dylan Gabriel has,

997
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: you know, just kind of onto the next one, the

998
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: south paw. You know that ball comes out different when

999
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 2: they're left handed. You just say, you just don't know.

1000
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: It's a completely different universe to catch the thing. But

1001
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: but it's going to be interesting to see how they

1002
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 2: how they employ or deploy Dylan Gabriel, this quinsan when

1003
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 2: we're gonna pause, here's get let's get liber and Pa

1004
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: into the mix, because I am fascinated with this quin

1005
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: Shawn Judkins and how effective he is at doing what

1006
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 2: Stefanski wants to do. However, they haven't really been explosive

1007
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: or successful with it through the first four games. This

1008
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 2: is a Vikings operation, whether it was gain Well finding

1009
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: his way to nearly he's at the doorstep of one

1010
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 2: hundred yards with two tds.

1011
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: We saw what Bejon did week two.

1012
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: You know, both the Vikings losses, the inability to stop

1013
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 2: the run has been a really important and vital part

1014
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: of the story. And Judkins is a talented cat. So

1015
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: let's pause. Let's jump out to London Weekly guest. Of course,

1016
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: Ben liber on site on scene, the host himself. He's

1017
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Speaker 2: taking a breather. I had to walk like half a

1018
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: mile from practice to where the the access and everything

1019
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: is set up.

1020
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Speaker 1: So we've given him, i.

1021
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Speaker 2: Think, proper breathing time, and we're going to reset this

1022
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: thing around the corner and chat with Pa and the Vox.

1023
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Speaker 2: Second hour ahead. It's Nordo in for Pa for now.

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Speaker 2: It's not a noon on the fan.