1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Jason, how are you good? Rocket? You son good? 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: So I am fond of saying Jason that there's really 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: only two storylines in college football. One is who's gonna 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: make the college football playoff? And number two is which 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: coaches are getting fired, who's getting hired, where are they going? 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: Who's getting hired? And two of you who's getting fired? 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: H yeah, yeah, I combined that into one. 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: But that that has dominated the news cycle certainly this 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: weekend with you know, Lane Kiffin, is he gonna go? 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: Is he gonna stay? 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: He eventually goes in a very very messy way here locally, 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: Mark Stoops was just fired the head coach of Kentucky 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 2: for the last thirteen years. That guy's a good coach man, 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 2: very good coach. Penn State's still looking for a coach. 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: They're the first ones to fire their coach and they 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: still don't have one, which is interesting. But to discuss 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: all this, I want to bring on someone who I 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: think does a great job following all this stuff, and 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: I know has an opinion on the one, the only 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: Richard Skinner from Local twelve, Skinny, how are you good? 21 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: Guys? How are you? 22 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: Thanks? Good? 23 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: First, let's get your thoughts on Kiffin. Yeah, there's two 24 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: ways of looking at it. Number one is it's the system, right, 25 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: and the system is what makes allows a coach to 26 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: be able to switch schools before the season is over. 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: And if he wants to get the job, and you 28 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 2: got to recruit the kids, he's got to give them 29 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: the job. 30 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: Now. 31 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: The other side is, God, you're already a team that 32 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: is going to play for the College Football Playoff. What 33 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: was your thoughts on the exit of Kiffin. 34 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, there somehow has to be a way to 35 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: change the calendar for all this, to change the calendar 36 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: of the portal, to change the calendar the coaching situations 37 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 3: that like, you can't make a higher until change until 38 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: until your team is eliminated, whatever, until a team you're 39 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: looking for the coach is eliminated, and then the portal 40 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: calendar doesn't start until after the college Football Playoff. I 41 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: know you can argue you're trying to get some kids 42 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: maybe in school for a second semester which starts in January, 43 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: but really you're getting a kid for the next season, 44 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: and the next season doesn't start until after that next semester. 45 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: It doesn't start until the August semester. Again. I know 46 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: they're early enrollies anymore. I mean, kids graduate high school, 47 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: try to graduate high school early in December to be 48 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: able to go and roll and get to a spring practice. 49 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: Enough of that, just change. Changing the calendar can't be 50 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: that hard. It just can't be. 51 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: I agree. 52 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: But the question is I always go back to, then, 53 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: why hasn't changed you, I Jason, everybody says this system 54 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: is broken, how come no one will fix it? 55 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: That's a great question. It's the same thing with I mean, 56 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: bowl games have been rendered so meaningless. I mean, listen 57 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: as a as a Kentucky graduate, and I know we're 58 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: gonna talk Mark stops in a dead and a Kentucky 59 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: football fan. Them making a Bowl has always been a 60 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: big deal to me, because that's about the best you're 61 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 3: gonna do, right, I mean, you're not gonna compete for 62 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: national so maybe you do one day. Indiana is certainly 63 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: doing it now, but that was always a big deal. 64 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: In the last couple of times they've done it, they 65 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: started like a fifth string quarterback one year because the 66 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: injuries and guys who opted out, And now you see 67 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 3: that across the board, all these bowl games of guys 68 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: opting out because they're entering the transfer portal. And I 69 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: don't blame the kids. I don't want to this sound 70 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: like that. This is not a blame on them. You're 71 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: trying to get a head start to your next payday. 72 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 3: I get all that, We're all we've all been there 73 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: from a job standpoint on listen, I want my next 74 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: best payday. We all do. But you can fix this 75 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 3: by changing the calendar on this. I don't know why 76 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: it's that hard, Like, let's wait until literally the day 77 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 3: after the National Championship game, which is you know, middish January. 78 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: Why is that so hard? And yes, I know, kids, 79 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 3: then probably can enroll for the winner semester. Too bad, 80 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: you can roll in for the next August or whatever 81 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,559 Speaker 3: and still can go through summer practice. 82 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: No, I agree. 83 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 4: And then you throw on top of the broken brokenness 84 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: of all this, guys, is that just these crazy buyouts? 85 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: I mean, Mark Stoop's a getting thirty seven thirty seven 86 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 4: million dollars in a buyout hockey coach, Yep, yep. When 87 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: you really dig down into that part of it, too, 88 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 4: you're just like this is like some alt reality here, 89 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 4: like you you're able to just whack a guy and 90 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 4: you just write him a check. I mean for thirty 91 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 4: seven million dollars would they pay James Franklin fire him 92 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: in the middle of the season. What there was r 93 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: Kelly was fifty Hell that's what I'm thinking of. And 94 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: it's just like and they just do it. It's find 95 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: the money. Yeah, it's hard to get your arms around 96 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: about how just where to even start to fix all this? 97 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit. The only difference for Brian or 98 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: for James Franklin was there is offset language where he 99 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: got hired at Virginia Tech. So whatever he makes in 100 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: Virginia Tech does come off to buy out from Penn 101 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: State Mark soops doesn't have that language. They literally and 102 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: that's what was negotiated. I don't know the negotiation where 103 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: it wound up, but he was literally due thirty seven 104 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: million dollars in a lump sum sixty days after his termination. 105 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: They discussed last night. I have not seen the details 106 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: of this yet. I don't even know what's been reported. 107 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: I'm guessing they've found a way to do that installments, 108 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 3: which is an easier way to go to your boosters 109 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: and go, yeah, I don't need thirty seven million. 110 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: Now they did, I think it was reported. 111 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 4: Do you agree to like take it in installments instead 112 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 4: of yeah, yeah, could have taken on in the next 113 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 4: thirty days or something. 114 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, no, city, Well he could have, but it 115 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: was sixty days. Was the determination you had to pay 116 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 3: him that amount. And that's support to me that I 117 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 3: don't understand. You know, there's no coach valuable enough to where, man, 118 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: we can't lose him, and we got to put this 119 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: big But coach, I don't want to say their diamond does. 120 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: And that's not fair, that's not right. It's not but coaching. 121 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: There's a lot of competent coaches in this world who 122 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: give him in the chance can do a really good job. 123 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: Just because you have a guy that you believe in 124 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: doesn't mean you go, well, gosh, if he leaves, we're done. No, 125 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: you're probably not. I mean, this is not the days 126 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: of Bear Bryant, where the old saying was he can 127 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 3: take his in and beat urine, and he can take 128 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: yurin and beat his And it's not that way. It's 129 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: the Jimmy's and the Joe's. It's it's a I l anymore. 130 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: I think Ryan Day is a great football coach. Anybody 131 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: thinks other wies it's crazy. But Ryan Day has a 132 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: roster that's been paid for. It's not a knock, it's 133 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: the day. It's where we are. That's where the money 134 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: should go. And listen, if a coach wants to leave 135 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: because of that or you have to fire him, you 136 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 3: shouldn't be beholding the pay these buyouts. You simply just say, 137 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 3: here's your contract, man, and in the last year of 138 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: your contract, before you are last year, if we want 139 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: to renegotiate it, re up it, we'll do it. But 140 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: the buyout is this and it's minimum. And if you 141 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: don't like it, go walk. I mean, Kentucky was so 142 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: scared about Mark Stoops going to Texas A and M 143 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 3: they negotiated this ridiculous spot. You know what, Kentucky football 144 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: is gonna win anywhere from five to nine games, and 145 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: he won ten twice. And kudos to him because he's 146 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 3: the only coach in school history ever win ten games 147 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 3: twice in his career. And again he deserves all the 148 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: credit in the world for that. Although he didn't catch 149 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: the end, that's part of the sec and a downcycle 150 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: live here there. He won ten games twice. He deserves 151 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: all the credits for that. But you know what if 152 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: he'd left for Texas A and m okay, go to 153 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: the next guy, it's not that hard. 154 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, But again it makes you wonder why these ads 155 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: and presidents are so scared and scare of the power 156 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: of these agents, of the of the Jimmy sexons in 157 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: the world that say, no, you're gonna you're gonna agree 158 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: to this long term buyout clause or our guy isn't coming. 159 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: It's gonna take some strong person, some strong ad, to 160 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: say if that's the case, then then then go fly 161 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: a kite. 162 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: We'll hire the next guy. 163 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: Something's got to be done to break that that that 164 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: barrier down of the buyos, because that system is not sustainable. 165 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: You can't be paying you. 166 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: Know, ten twenty thirty forty million dollars every three or 167 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: four years to buy out a coach's contract. 168 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: You can't. You just can't do it. 169 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean look real quickly, I mean look 170 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: at Lane Kiffin for example. And I think Lane's a 171 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: good coach. I think anybody that's reasonable thinks Lane's a 172 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: good coach. What's Lane won? I mean, he won a 173 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: national championship? Did he win anything in the NFL, and 174 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: I know he was saddled to Marcus Ross so on 175 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: his fall. So you're taking a guy who's not a 176 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: complete proving like big time winner and and winning with that. 177 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: I like Brian Kelly, what is Brian Kelly? Wont he 178 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: got to a national championship? Okay? Great? And what does 179 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: he want? And yet LSU went out on a complete 180 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: lim for him with a giant buyout and you I 181 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: just your most I don't understand how anybody. I can't 182 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: understand how bord of trustees sign off all means either 183 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: like you're holding to this deal and oh well we're 184 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: on the hook for it. Yeah we gotta pay this. No, 185 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: you don't stop doing it. 186 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: I think what it is skinny is as much as 187 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: we like to say this system isn't sustainable, it is. 188 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: And how colleges operate, they operate under a totally unrealistic 189 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: set of parameters. 190 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: Usually there's a bottom line. 191 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: And here's your budget, here's how much money you have, 192 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: and there's no like golden parachute out there. But these 193 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: colleges that they know in the back of their mind, 194 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: these board of trustees, these ads, they know, you know, 195 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: what if it really came down to it. We can 196 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: call Jason Williams and John Williams and Richard Skinner and say, look, man, 197 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: we need five we need five million bucks. 198 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: And they give it to them. And so they always 199 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: know in the back. 200 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 2: Of their head there's that bailout form. So that's why 201 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: they of these things up front. And it's completely ruining 202 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 2: the whole deal. 203 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: It is totally. 204 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 4: The other thing, too, is in on the on the 205 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 4: flip side of this, you've got you've got U see 206 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 4: and you look at a place like you see that 207 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 4: is being patient with the guy. You know, you had 208 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: Michigan State which pulled the pulled the plug out in 209 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: their coach after two seasons. 210 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 3: It says. 211 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 4: The whole thing is really I don't envy in any 212 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 4: athletic director or whatever school they're at in FBS football, 213 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 4: because you know, you try to balance like, you know, 214 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 4: the just how patient should you be versus you know, 215 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 4: it's a whole it's a total judgment call. And then 216 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 4: you throw in the money and I don't know, but 217 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 4: then you got all this pressure of you know, the 218 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 4: social media world that doesn't really maybe influence the money, 219 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 4: but it's it's a it's a trendy thing right now 220 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 4: to pull the plug on your coach really quickly and 221 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 4: when you're not doing it, well, what's wrong with you? 222 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: And I feel like that's probably what's going on at 223 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 4: U see right now. 224 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I mean if it used to be coaches, 225 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 3: you know, would get the five year contract, right, you 226 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: want to get a whole recruiting class through, including like 227 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 3: they'd red shirt guys along the way. So and that 228 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: was always pretty fair, right, You get yourself your first 229 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 3: class and you get to see them through and if 230 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 3: you don't get it done by then, well then you 231 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: just didn't get it done. But now it's literally the 232 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: chass point John Smith Michigan State, who took over for 233 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: the disgrace Mel Tucker, who they got lucky to get 234 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: out from under the guaranteed Remember they were guaranteeing him 235 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: I think seventy five mil. And somehow they got out 236 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: of it because they got a chance of fireing with 237 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: for cause they were lucky in that regard. And then 238 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 3: they get John Smith. He did really good things up 239 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: up in Oregon State and didn't do quite enough fast 240 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: enough at Michigan State. And how he goes it's the 241 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: cycles crazy. 242 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: It's crazy and I feel like every school, and I 243 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: guess good for you. 244 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: You always think that you can win it, but the 245 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: reality is there's probably like one hundred and twenty eight 246 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: schools that are never gonna win it. They're never gonna 247 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: win it. All right, it's gonna come down to about ten. 248 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: And I always wonder this too, guys, like, at what 249 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: point does the school go, Okay, we got we got 250 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: to pay a buy out to a coach, we got 251 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: to pay the new coach, we got to raise twenty 252 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: million dollars in and I'll. 253 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: Pay a roster. 254 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: At what point does even if you win a national title, 255 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: at what point is it not worth it? What point 256 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: does it cost you money and it's not actually worth 257 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 2: it on a bottom line, on a on a spreadsheet 258 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: to win a national title? 259 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: Great, great question, that great question. 260 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is a great question. Hey, listen, I'll 261 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: go back to the whole, this whole and I the 262 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: whole Jimmy's and Joe things is a big deal. I 263 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: think Signetty's great. He'll tell you he's great, right, Yeah, 264 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: just go google me. I win. But Mark Cuban's got 265 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 3: money in that program. Mark Cuban's got a lot of money. 266 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: Right again, this is not a not I don't want 267 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: this to sound like a knock. This is where we 268 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: are today, Texas Tech. I think Jillian McGuire is a 269 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: great coach, he's got great culture. They play the game 270 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: the right way. I love watching them play. Actually, they 271 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: do everything I really need afactor. Yeah correct, I mean 272 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 3: that's just it. I mean you can look to it 273 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 3: those and go, oh yeah, there's the money train right there. Okay, thanks, Yeah, 274 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: we're good. I mean that's that's what it is. Go 275 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: build your loster and I'll get Joe Schmow to go 276 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 3: coach you. 277 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 278 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: There's so many issues with college football, and it's amazing 279 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 2: how popular it is, and there's such drama, there's such 280 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 2: interest in it. You wonder, at what point does do 281 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: people say, come on, we got a coach. A coach 282 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: on a playoff team is leaving his We always, we 283 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: always did. 284 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: Play the hypothetic. 285 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: What happens if there's a player that decides to opt 286 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: out of a out out of a playoff game because 287 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: he wants to go to the NFL. 288 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: Well, we haven't seen that yet, but we've seen a 289 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: coach do it. 290 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 2: It's wild but everybody that the problem is. I don't 291 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: know if you agree, but you know, everybody has their own. 292 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 2: There's like too many chiefs. There's not one singular chief 293 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: and head of college football. If you're Greg Sanke and 294 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: you're in charge of the SEC, you're the commissioner. You 295 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 2: only care about the SEC. You don't care about the 296 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: viability of the Big Ten. You don't care at all. 297 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,599 Speaker 2: But sometimes if you look back at the history of 298 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: like the NFL AFL merger, it was the acquis it 299 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: was the act weesk Eno of you know what, let's 300 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: do what's best for your greater NFL instead of what 301 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: you get and what you get. But until some of 302 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: these powerful people are are able to be kind of 303 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 2: put in their place and say, look, you might have 304 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: to take a depth. It might not be exactly best 305 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: for the SEC, but it's best for all of college football, 306 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: and so you can somehow make that happen. 307 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: I think we're going to be having these kinds of conversations. 308 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll leave you with this. I mean back to 309 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: your point about what where's the breaking point? I guess 310 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: I'm not there either, Because boys, I got up early 311 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: Saturday morning and it was cold outside, and my front 312 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: yard is I got two oak trees. I got leaves 313 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 3: all over the place. I spent three hours raking leaves 314 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: so I could come in at noon to watch the 315 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: Kentucky game and to watch the Ohio State game. And 316 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 3: I laid on my couch watching football until almost midnight, 317 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: breaking for a. 318 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: Meal at one point to go to the bathroom too. 319 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 3: I did, I did, I got it. I got up 320 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: a couple of times. Do that maybe make a drink 321 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 3: or two? But yes, I mean I just was like, okay, 322 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 3: the news were over. Now the street thorties, oh cool, 323 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: got down comes Alabama Auburn. It's just house football. 324 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: The sickness, it is absolutely all three of us have its. Yeah, agreed, Well, Skinny, 325 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 2: this has been great man. I really appreciate you. Well, 326 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure maybe we'll talk to you get on Friday. 327 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: But the great stuff. And if folks want to find out, 328 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: you know, any anything you have going on Local twelve, 329 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: where can I tune in at? 330 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, just go to Local twelve dot com, slash sports, 331 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 3: or you can hit me up on the expers at 332 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: at Local twill skiing. 333 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: You got your best, Skinny. Thanks, thanks Bob. 334 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 3: Thanks yep. 335 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: All right, So yeah, there you go, and we'll continue 336 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: to talk about this throughout the show. 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