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Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday Midday

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Speaker 1: on what looks to be a fairly good Saturday, might

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Speaker 1: get some nameless afternoon though. Well let me do this first.

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Speaker 1: Let me thank Dan Carroll for filling in for me.

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Speaker 1: Last Saturday, I was at the annual Cincinnati Police Department

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Speaker 1: Reunion in Orlando.

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Speaker 2: Great times with great people.

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Speaker 1: Want to send out a special thank you to Sandy Vickers,

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Speaker 1: who organizes the thing every year. And it's a pretty

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Speaker 1: big deal too, so it was nice to see everybody

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Speaker 1: wanted to say too. At nine thirty, ten thirty, and

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Speaker 1: eleven thirty. We've got open lines today, only two guests,

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Speaker 1: and that's by design. I think we'll be talking pretty

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Speaker 1: much about the war. And also we've got Ken Kober

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Speaker 1: FP president coming on. I'm going to ask him about

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Speaker 1: the shooting at at Riverfront Lives.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like a cluster, you know what out there.

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Speaker 1: Thankfully no but he died, and Janis Heizell going to

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Speaker 1: talk to her about ten o'clock. She filed two really

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Speaker 1: really comprehensive stories this week about the war. One is

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Speaker 1: with respect to drones and are we running out of them?

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Speaker 1: The other one really good story about Iranian Americans their

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Speaker 1: reaction to President Trump's actions, and I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I need to tell you that they're extremely supportive.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, it was just a little more than a

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Speaker 1: week ago that the United States and our strong longtime

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Speaker 1: ally Israel attacked Iran, the number one sponsor of terrorism

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Speaker 1: in the world. Today, although you get fifty Democrats who

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Speaker 1: wouldn't agree with that, we're going to talk about that too.

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Speaker 1: It just shameful, absolutely shameful what they did yesterday. But

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Speaker 1: with respect to the war itself, look to me, it's

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Speaker 1: real simple.

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Speaker 2: This had to happen. It had to happen.

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Speaker 1: President Trump did what he had to do, and he'll

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Speaker 1: finish the job. You know, if you really want to

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Speaker 1: boil it down to a simple thing. Iran's been asking

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Speaker 1: for this for forty seven years. I'm old enough to

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Speaker 1: remember nineteen seventy nine and the hostage seizure. That's where

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Speaker 1: it first began. And President Trump did what no other

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Speaker 1: president would do. And included in that list are presidents

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Speaker 1: that I very much like and admire. It's not just

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Speaker 1: the seizure of the hostages in nineteen seventy nine too.

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Speaker 1: More than that, with respect to Iran nineteen eighty You

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Speaker 1: might remember this, I do. During the rescue attempt for

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Speaker 1: the fifty two hostages, eight United States Service members died

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Speaker 1: in a helicopter aircraft collision. I remember that distinctly. Jimmy Carter,

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Speaker 1: to his credit, was on TV early that morning taking

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Speaker 1: full blame and full responsibility for it. Mister Biden could

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Speaker 1: probably take a lesson from him, probably the worst one though.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty three the Beirut bombings, Iran bached hezbela

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Speaker 1: Islamic jihad group, carried out attacks that killed seventeen Americans

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Speaker 1: at the embassy and two hundred forty one US military

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Speaker 1: personnel at the marine compound. Iraq in Afghanistan two thousand

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Speaker 1: and three twenty eleven, Iran is responsible for six hundred

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Speaker 1: and three United States service members who perished, not Iraq, Iran.

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Speaker 1: So they've been asking for it for a long time

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Speaker 1: and now they're getting it. And you know what, that's

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Speaker 1: not that a macho thing saying that. I think before

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Speaker 1: I say those things. But this did have to happen,

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Speaker 1: and they've been sticking it to us for forty nine years,

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Speaker 1: so it was a good thing. Sadly, we've got six

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Speaker 1: deceased service members for it, and you can't, even though

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Speaker 1: it's a small number, you can't just you can't be

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Speaker 2: But that's war.

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Speaker 1: Here's the bottom line, the bottom line. And Trump realizes this.

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Speaker 1: Iran simply cannot have a nuclear device period.

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. Look how they're fighting now.

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Speaker 1: God forbid those crazy people would have a nuclear device.

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Speaker 1: You think they'd think twice about using it on us

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Speaker 1: if they could, or our ally Israel, which they definitely could.

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Speaker 2: So he had to do it.

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Speaker 1: But you know, this is something that's typical in Iran,

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Speaker 1: a country that's well known for its and sometimes painful

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Speaker 1: discrimination against women. Women were celebrating in the streets, carrying

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Speaker 1: the US flag, carrying signs that said thank you, President Trump.

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Speaker 1: But back in the good old USA, women were protesting

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Speaker 1: the usual stuff. They were protesting the attack on Iran.

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Speaker 1: Go figure. I guess that should surprise nobody. Though, And

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Speaker 1: despite what the Democrats say, President Trump's actions were clearly constitutional.

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Speaker 2: Every legitimate constitutional scholar.

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Speaker 1: Says that, and they're also legal under the War Powers

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Speaker 1: Act and Article two, Article two, Section two of the Constitution. Again,

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Speaker 1: any sane person realizes that, you know, and not surprisingly,

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Speaker 1: this should surprise no one. The Democrats reaction to all

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Speaker 1: It really seems to me like some Democrats, not all,

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Speaker 2: To lose this war.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and to listen to Chuck Schumer specifically, you would

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Speaker 1: think that we're losing this war, which is just preposterous

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Speaker 1: for those guys, the Democrats. It basically came down to

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Speaker 1: what it comes down to sometimes, a choice between party

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Speaker 1: and country. And we all know what the Democrats chose.

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Speaker 1: They chose the party. But you know, I guess that's

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Speaker 1: about par for the course for a party that cares

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Speaker 1: more for trespassers into our country than they do about

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Speaker 1: you and I. It's ordinary law abiding citizens. So that

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Speaker 1: shouldn't surprise anybody. But what happened yesterday was just appalling

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Speaker 1: and unbelievable. You might know about it already. You might

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Speaker 1: have heard about it. What happened what the Democrats did yesterday?

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Speaker 1: They had a vote yesterday, and all the vote was

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Speaker 1: really was a vote to demonstrate that Iran is the

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Speaker 1: biggest villain with respect to terrorism in the world today.

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Speaker 1: Very very simple. Well not for the Democrats. Fifty count

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Speaker 1: them fifty Democrats would not vote for that simple proposition,

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Speaker 1: the simple proposition that Iran is the number one exporter

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Speaker 1: not bring themselves to vote for that. You know what,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to ask every last damn one of those

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Speaker 1: fifty Okay, well, if it's not Iran, who is it.

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Speaker 1: It's shameful, absolutely shameful. These people are amazing. I said,

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Speaker 1: fifty Democrats. It's actually fifty three. It was House Resolution

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Speaker 1: ten ninety nine reaffirming that Iran remains the world's largest

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Speaker 1: state sponsor of terrorism.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The measure passed in the House with a bipartisan vote

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Speaker 1: of three hundred and seventy two to fifty three. But

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Speaker 1: those fifty three ought to be drawn and quartered and

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Speaker 1: again the resolution. It was introduced by Representative Brian mast

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Speaker 1: Republican of Florida. It labels her on as the largest

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Speaker 1: state sponsor of terrorism and a direct and persistent threat

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Speaker 1: to the US. But these people could not muster up

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Speaker 1: the cohonies I guess to vote for that resolution. And

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Speaker 1: you know why, Number one, because they're ignorant liberals. Number two,

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Speaker 1: they are all so afraid of pissing off their radical base,

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Speaker 1: specifically specifically the Muslim vote. They don't want to dare

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Speaker 1: do that. You know, who cares what it looks like

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Speaker 1: to the rest of the world, Who cares what it

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I about lost my weedies on

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Speaker 1: that one. In the second Trump administration, the United States

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Speaker 1: has reasserted its status as the world's pre eminent military power.

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Speaker 2: We are being viewed.

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Speaker 1: Again again as a global power that didn't happen under

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Speaker 1: President Biden, you know, the guy that looked over and

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Speaker 1: was in charge of as commander in chief. The pullout,

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Speaker 1: the chaotic pull out, the shameful pullout of our people

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Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. I mean, it was there for the world

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Speaker 1: are once again the pre eminent military in the world

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Speaker 1: and frankly the pre eminent global power.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: Again, I don't like to reduce it to kind of

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Speaker 1: street sayings, but I will bottom line, you screw with

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Speaker 1: the US at your own peril. It's just the way

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Speaker 1: it is. That's the way it used to be, and

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Speaker 1: it's the way it is again. You know, And do

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Speaker 1: you remember the Biden administrations. This was laughable, his thing,

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Speaker 1: and Kamala did it too. There's the reporter asked, well,

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Speaker 1: what if Iran does this, that and the other, what

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Speaker 1: is your message to them? Don't don't don't, which didn't

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Speaker 1: mean a damn thing. It was just an easy thing

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Speaker 1: for them to say. And according to AI that sourced

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Speaker 1: a lot of different stories for this. The phrase don't

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Speaker 1: refers to President Joe Biden's public warning to Iran and

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Speaker 1: its proxies against escalating the conflict in the Middle East

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Speaker 1: following the October seven, twenty twenty three attack on Israel,

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Speaker 1: the shameful twenty twenty three attack on Israel. Critics and

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Speaker 1: some analysts have labeled this, along with other foreign policy

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Speaker 1: warnings from the Biden Harris administration, as an empty threat

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Speaker 1: or this is, in quotes, a pitiable attempt at pleading

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Speaker 1: because it failed to deter the US attacks or attacks

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Speaker 1: on US personnel or prevent regional escalation. That's what you

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Speaker 1: got from Joe Biden. Don't don't and they did, and

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Speaker 1: he did nothing, you know. Bottom line again, a lot

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Speaker 1: of bottom lines this morning. But we're going to continue

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Speaker 1: this war to its successful conclusion, no matter how long

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Speaker 1: it takes, and we're only a week into the thing.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about this too, this society in so many

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Speaker 1: things once instant results the kidnapping and probable murder of

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Speaker 1: recalling the name now the NBC reporter they want the

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Speaker 2: It doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 1: And the President has said pretty much obviously he doesn't

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Speaker 1: want any boots on the ground, but unless I miss something,

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Speaker 1: he did not rule it out. And I pray, I pray,

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Speaker 1: I pray that we don't need boots on the ground.

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Speaker 1: But if that's what we need to finish the job,

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Speaker 1: that's what he's got to do. You know, we do

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Speaker 1: have to continue it to its successful conclusion. Honestly, I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's going to be that long. But if

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Speaker 1: it is, so be it, so be it. But here's

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Speaker 1: here's one of the most important things, and it really

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Speaker 1: is ultimately ultimately now, it's up to the Iranian people

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Speaker 1: to rise up and take their country back. It's up

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Speaker 1: to them. We put them in a position to where

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Speaker 1: they could. You may recall there was some criticism of

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Speaker 1: the President because he said those things about, you know,

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Speaker 1: Iraan being a free country again and grumbling was, well,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing about You can look at the

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Speaker 1: last week and see what he was doing about it,

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Speaker 1: and it's time for them to take the bull by

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Speaker 2: And based on what I've seen.

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Speaker 1: From the demonstrations from Iranian people, they are very, very

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Speaker 1: very supportive of the president and his conduct of this war.

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Speaker 1: You know, in three four weeks from now, I hope

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking to you about this, but very well,

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Speaker 1: maybe again, we just got to put our nose to

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Speaker 1: the grindstone and get it done, and we got a

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Speaker 1: president that will do that anyway, That's what I think.

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Speaker 1: As always, I want to know what you think. Seven

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Speaker 1: four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred, The big one

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Speaker 1: are the numbers. Mike Allen, Saturday mid nine thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: Mike Allen with the Saturday midday program. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: to the phones, I promised. But before that, something else

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Speaker 1: happened yesterday that is again beyond belief, but not really

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Speaker 1: given the state of the left today. Yesterday, in the

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Speaker 1: afternoon there was actually a vigual, a vigil for the

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Speaker 1: recently deceased Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatola A La Kamena.

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Speaker 2: They all kind of sound the same to me. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: They had this vigil in Manhattan's Washington Square Park and

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Speaker 1: it descended into a violent brawl.

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Speaker 2: According to AIV, chaos erupted.

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Speaker 1: When a counter protester reportedly tried to tear down a

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Speaker 1: Bobby J. How are you?

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Speaker 3: Good morning?

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Speaker 6: My friend faith flag family in the seventy two hour.

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Speaker 6: Hey, we appreciate everything you do. My brother holding that

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Speaker 6: Well, I've comment is not about the Uranian conflict, but

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Speaker 2: What surprise me at all?

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Speaker 1: And when you have a president of the United States

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Speaker 2: Hell knows what you have here?

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Speaker 1: There has to be Iranian cells in this country that

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, and we have to be vigilant about that.

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Speaker 1: And again, when you let so many people into your

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Speaker 2: Bobby, thank you my brother as always as always.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, who knows who's in here? Who knows

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Speaker 7: That goes for Donald Trump as far as what he

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Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, mark me down for supporting that.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, I appreciate you taking my call.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Let's talk to Joe in Fairfield. How you doing, Joe?

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Speaker 4: Hello, Joe?

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Speaker 8: Thank yeah, Mike, Yeah, thank you for taking my call.

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Speaker 8: I'm I'm a little disappointed that nobody has you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and what a great what a great man he was.

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Speaker 8: Be relevant again. Well, but that guy's a I mean,

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Speaker 2: He really is.

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Speaker 1: And boy, you know what, it wasn't that long ago

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Speaker 1: don't know. He's probably at some outfit in Lima, Ohio.

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Speaker 8: Well, and you know you were talking about the Islam Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 8: I tell you what, Mike.

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Speaker 4: You said things to say what they want to.

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Speaker 8: They't call me whatever they want to call me, but

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Speaker 4: They need to get him the hell out of here.

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Speaker 8: And they, you know, you sit there and say, oh,

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Speaker 8: you want to about well, freedom of religion, that's not

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Speaker 8: a religion. It's that they're a terrorist organization.

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Speaker 1: And many the over well the many of them are

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Speaker 1: and it's high time that people just realize that and

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Speaker 1: say it and don't give a damn like you and

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Speaker 1: I what they call us because of it. I don't

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Speaker 1: care anymore I'm gonna call a spade a spade, but anyway,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. Thank you, Okay, Joe, thank you. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's talk to Stanley. Hey, good morning, Stanley.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Stanley, good mor Than.

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Speaker 4: Mike.

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Speaker 2: How you doing.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm doing great.

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Speaker 9: Hey, listen, I really like your take, and I like

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Speaker 9: Mike Junior's take whenever he gets on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. He's a heck of a lot better than me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well he probably had a good teacher. But hey, Mike,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to change.

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Speaker 3: The subject a little bit.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna talk about this this Holly woman.

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Speaker 2: Okay, which now tell me which one it is again?

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Speaker 4: Holly, Okay, the one and the great big beat down him.

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Speaker 4: I got all that national news.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, yeah, yeah. What do you want to

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Speaker 1: say about her?

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Speaker 9: Well, here's what I want. Here's my take on I.

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Speaker 9: First of all, they tied to the music festival. The

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Speaker 9: music festival probably ended at eleven, maybe twelve, right, So

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Speaker 9: these people go to the loved bar. Okay, it's always

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Speaker 9: a wonderful mother of five.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 9: So the bar, they're all drawing the bar, getting drunk,

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Speaker 9: and the bar closes and they go out on the Street,

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Speaker 9: and so the white guy gets swapped.

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Speaker 4: You remember that, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. I don't remember a lot about

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Speaker 2: it though.

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Speaker 9: Okay, Anyway, my point is this woman got to speak

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Speaker 9: in front of Congress to try to try and get

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Speaker 9: a bill named after her.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what, Stanley, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: do you and our listeners at disservice. I need to

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Speaker 1: read up on that and then i'd be happy to

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Speaker 1: talk about it. But I do appreciate your call, you know.

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Speaker 1: I just I'm just not really sure what he was

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Speaker 1: referring to, but I'm gonna find out. We got a

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Speaker 1: couple of minutes. Let's talk to Ransom in Columbus. Hello,

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Speaker 1: how's it going in Columbus?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Mike, how are you today? Man?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 2: Good? What you got?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 5: I wanted to welcome you back, and I don't know

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Speaker 5: where you argue. I've heard you're probably down in Florida

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Speaker 5: checking out some baseball or something.

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Speaker 4: Like that, or something like you. But I did hit

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Speaker 4: it going, Oh that's cool, that's cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I got to talk to your other replacement show, so

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Speaker 5: I told him that I'm your roving radio reporter for

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Speaker 5: Columbus A while. That's right, you and I have developed

502
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Speaker 5: some sort of a deal, and between Janet Hizel and me,

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Speaker 5: we're trying.

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Speaker 4: To keep the state in your show. We're trying to

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Speaker 4: keep the whole state going.

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Speaker 3: Good.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Hey, we only got a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got just real quick. Just to give you

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Speaker 4: an update.

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Speaker 5: They did a forum in Columbus and they tried to

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Speaker 5: pass some legislation for not working with I, and they're

512
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Speaker 5: quoting the tenth Amendment of.

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Speaker 4: The Constitutions to justify it.

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Speaker 5: But according to Grott, the supremacy claus overrise everything. So

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Speaker 5: I'm going to stay on top of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then down the road, I want to talk

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Speaker 4: to you about another subject it's much more important, which

518
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Speaker 4: is the coming of the Lord and how it's lining

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Speaker 4: up with this whole world that we're in right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Rare, thank you, Okay, but God bless you.

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Speaker 1: You know what what he just said, There are people

522
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Speaker 1: talking about that, how biblically a lot of things are

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Speaker 1: happening that tie into the end of the world. I

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Speaker 1: haven't examined it. I don't discount anything, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are talking about that, and that's something that

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Speaker 1: I got to look at too. Hey, we're going to

527
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Speaker 1: take a break from the news, but when we get back,

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Speaker 1: we are going to talk to Janis Heiseel about number one.

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Speaker 1: Are we way way behind in drunes? I think we

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Speaker 1: got put it in time a little bit to catch

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Speaker 1: up with everyone. Jannis did a detailed story on that.

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Speaker 1: She also did a story on the reaction from Iranian Americans,

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Speaker 1: mainly women, maybe I think all women and what their

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Speaker 1: reaction is to what President Trump has done. And it's

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Speaker 1: no surprise to tell you that they're very supportive. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to Janis when we get back. Mike Allen seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW.

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Speaker 4: Sixteen rules you wan recurring what I mean marketing text

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Speaker 4: messages can sit are required to purchase message data rates

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Speaker 4: me apply.

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Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen with our two

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Speaker 1: of Saturday midday. Well, you know what, we have a

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Speaker 1: schedule change. We are going to have Janis Heiseel of

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Speaker 1: the Epoch Times at ten thirty as opposed to ten.

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Speaker 2: You got to be flexible in this business.

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Speaker 1: So with that half hour you get me and hopefully

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Speaker 1: call her seven four nine, seven thousand, one eight hundred.

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Speaker 1: The Big one are the number but it gives me

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Speaker 1: a chance to talk to you about something that it

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Speaker 1: just it worries the heck out of me, and it

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Speaker 1: should worry everyone. And I know we've talked about this

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Speaker 1: a number of times on this show, but I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to stop talking about it.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this, okay.

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Speaker 1: A Fox News poll which is and I'm not just

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Speaker 1: saying it because Fox polls that are considered very accurate

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Speaker 1: and very honest. A Fox News poll released on March fifth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, just a few days ago. Listen to this, people,

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Speaker 1: shows that a record thirty eight percent of registered voters.

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Speaker 1: You know, these just aren't clowns off the street, registered

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Speaker 1: voters believe it would be a good thing for the

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Speaker 1: US to move away from capitalism and towards socialism. This

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Speaker 1: is a significant increase from thirty two percent in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two and just eighteen percent in twenty ten. And

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you it is something that we should be

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Speaker 1: concerned about. You can see where it's going, the movement,

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Speaker 1: and there's some other things in this poll I'm going

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Speaker 1: to talk about too. Back in twenty ten, not that

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Speaker 1: long ago, sixteen years ago, only eighteen percent, eighteen percent

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Speaker 1: said they want to move away from capitalism to socialism.

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Speaker 1: Fast forward to twenty twenty two, twelve years later, that

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Speaker 1: number almost doubles. It's thirty two percent. Then the poll

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Speaker 1: just a few days ago. I'm sorry, thirty two percent

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, twenty twenty six, now thirty eight percent.

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Speaker 1: I just how can that be? And I think I know,

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Speaker 1: and I'll tell you in a minute. But rhetorically, how

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Speaker 1: can that be in this country that thirty eight percent

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Speaker 1: of registered vote believe it would be a good thing

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Speaker 1: for the US to move away from capitalism towards socialism.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to get a couple of those people, and

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Speaker 1: I would be you know, polite about it, probably, and

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Speaker 1: just ask them give me an example, will you please,

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Speaker 1: of a country where socialism has worked, Or give me

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Speaker 1: an example of a country that implemented socialism that has

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Speaker 1: not ended up with some very very dire consequences for

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Speaker 1: those that choose to oppose something like that. It's incredible,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and you know what it tells me. Well,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you some other stuff about this poll,

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Speaker 1: and up I'll give you my mini rant here. Okay,

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Speaker 1: key findings in this poll on economic systems and this

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Speaker 1: is from This is from AI, which again I've found

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Speaker 1: to be accurate. Fifty one percent says our economic system

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Speaker 1: works well, fifty one percent. How this is how well

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Speaker 1: capitalism is working. Fifty one percent say it works well,

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Speaker 1: while forty nine percent says it does not, which is

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Speaker 1: pretty much a tie. Now, if that being the case

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, how do you come up with

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Speaker 1: thirty eight percent of people that say we should move

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Speaker 1: away from it when you got fifty one to forty

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Speaker 1: nine that basically says the same thing.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe sometimes people just want to get off the phone

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Speaker 1: with these polsters because it doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Support for a socialist direction, that is, move away from

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Speaker 1: capitalism to socialism sixty one percent majority.

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Speaker 2: Waite where I lost my place here.

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Speaker 1: Sixty one percent majority still views a move towards socialism

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Speaker 1: as a bad thing, and this is not surprising, including

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Speaker 1: seventy eight percent of Republicans and seventy five percent of

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Speaker 1: voters in general. And the support for this thing for

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Speaker 1: Democrats under age sixty age fifteen, I'm sorry, forty five

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Speaker 1: is sixty six percent for black voters, fifty five percent

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Speaker 1: for liberal voters and no surprise here sixty six percent.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's my thing.

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Speaker 1: The reason why you are seeing this is the college campus,

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Speaker 1: the intellectual cesspool that is now the college campus in

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Speaker 1: the United States of America, and the indoctrination has started

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Speaker 1: long before they get to college.

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Speaker 2: Not everyone goes to college.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I think you know, less

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Speaker 1: people than ever are going to college.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: These kids that are coming up, they never get both

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Speaker 1: sides of the story. They sure ain't getting it in school,

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Speaker 1: and they're not getting it from their parents either. You know,

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Speaker 1: I remember very young, a very young age, we would

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Speaker 1: talk about things like this, not this exact thing, over

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Speaker 1: the dinner table. And I didn't need any persuading, and

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Speaker 1: neither did my brothers or sisters to believe that Conservatism

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Speaker 1: and Republicans were the right way to go, because I

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Speaker 1: was exposed to all of that. These kids now, they

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Speaker 1: just fly through high school and grade school. You know,

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Speaker 1: as long as they're good at DEI and they know

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Speaker 1: their pronouns, they're fine.

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Speaker 2: It has to stop. I mean, that is frightening. I mean,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. Thirty eight percent of registered voters believe it

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Speaker 2: would be a good thing. For the US to move

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Speaker 2: away from capitalism towards socialism, when you have umpteen examples

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Speaker 2: of how socialism doesn't work, and in many cases it

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Speaker 2: turns into praying on your own people. So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It just gets me one more thing on this pole

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Speaker 1: and I'll stop. Okay, they've got a question. The pole

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Speaker 1: highlights a shift in what voters want from the federal government. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they give you two choices from what you want from

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Speaker 1: the feds. Either leave me alone or lend me a hand. Okay,

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Speaker 1: on leave me alone. Fifty one percent of voters prefer

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Speaker 1: the government to leave them alone, a three point edge

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Speaker 1: over those wanting help. I guess that's a positive thing.

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Speaker 1: Lend me a hand. Forty eight percent want the government

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Speaker 1: to provide a hand up. That's down from fifty five

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Speaker 1: percent in twenty twenty five. You know what I and

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Speaker 1: I think most other Conservatives and Republicans don't have a

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Speaker 1: problem at all with giving someone in need, a citizen

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Speaker 1: of this country, a legal resident of this country, not

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Speaker 1: an illegal immigrant who trusts passes into their country. I

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Speaker 1: don't have a problem with giving them a hand up.

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Speaker 1: And in our society, in our country, we have done

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Speaker 1: that at every turn. I mean sometimes to a ridiculous degree.

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Speaker 1: I look at the situation out in Minnesota. How you know,

661
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Speaker 1: it's good intentions, but my god, they had eleven billion

662
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Speaker 1: dollars in counting stolen from them. So we again, I

663
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Speaker 1: can't say it enough. We have to do something about

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Speaker 1: what our kids are learning from grade school all the

665
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Speaker 1: way through college. And you know, I proposed something a

666
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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and people talked about it, what if,

667
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Speaker 1: what if? And it t us just say a fifth

668
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Speaker 1: grader's Civics class. You had a teacher teaching that, and

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Speaker 1: you had a camera in that classroom that was recording

670
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Speaker 1: what that teacher said, and the only people that would

671
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Speaker 1: have access to that would be the school administrators and

672
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Speaker 1: the parents period. It wouldn't be a deal where the

673
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Speaker 1: general public can get it. That's how you hold teachers accountable.

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Speaker 1: And it's incumbent upon the parents to when your kid

675
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Speaker 1: comes home, second, third, fourth grade, whatever, Hey, i'd like

676
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Speaker 1: to see your textbooks please, you know, I just want

677
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Speaker 1: to see what they're teaching you. I don't think parents

678
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Speaker 1: do that. To be honest with you, I didn't do it.

679
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Speaker 1: I mean I didn't have to do it. You knew

680
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Speaker 1: what you were going to get back then. So anyway,

681
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Speaker 1: that's my mini rant on that I got to calm

682
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Speaker 1: down here and talk to Roger in Columbus.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Roger, how you doing?

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Speaker 1: Hey Roger? Hello, Roger? Are you there? Roger in Columbus?

685
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Speaker 1: Going once, going twice. Yeah, there he is a Roger

686
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: are you there? We're having a problem with Roger. I

687
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Speaker 1: hope he hangs on because I'll come back to him.

688
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Speaker 1: How about John on a cell phone?

689
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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 2: John, how you doing?

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Speaker 3: Good? Mike?

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Speaker 10: Thanks for having me on. So I guess a lot

693
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Speaker 10: of this goes back to what is the role of government?

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Speaker 2: Yep?

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Speaker 10: Right, And so that is where it's a it's a

696
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Speaker 10: broad spectrum. People will say, well, you know, people will

697
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Speaker 10: say it's everything from cradle to grave to leave me alone, right,

698
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Speaker 10: And unfortunately, unfortunately that's the debate I remember hearing, gosh,

699
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Speaker 10: I don't one hundred and fifty years ago something like that.

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Speaker 10: There was a debate in I think it was the

701
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Speaker 10: federal government what was regarding providing funds for the mentally handicapped.

702
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Speaker 10: Now this goes back one hundred and fifty years ago, right, sure,

703
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Speaker 10: And the debate against it was is that they can't

704
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Speaker 10: find anything in the Constitution or any documents that say

705
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Speaker 10: this is the role of government. Right, of course people mainly,

706
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Speaker 10: you know, the mentally handicapped, But what is the role

707
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Speaker 10: of the government for most intelligent people. It's roads, security, military,

708
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Speaker 10: some emergencies, and that's probably about it. If you want

709
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Speaker 10: to say education, that's final.

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Speaker 3: Though.

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Speaker 10: The government's done a horrible job.

712
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Speaker 2: Educating, a horrible job.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, So what is the role of government is the

714
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Speaker 10: real debate here, and.

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Speaker 1: You bring it, you bring up a really good point,

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Speaker 1: and you're absolutely right. There's no reference to any of

717
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Speaker 1: that stuff in the Constitution, and that's where we we

718
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Speaker 1: take our law from. I think it's we've just emerged

719
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Speaker 1: through this. I guess I don't know, what do you think?

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Speaker 10: Well, there's also this this uh provide for the general

721
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Speaker 10: welfare right now?

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Speaker 6: What does that mean? Yeah, what does that mean?

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Speaker 2: That's a and I've forgotten about that. Thank you for

724
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Speaker 2: reminding me.

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Speaker 1: That's just a vague clause of the Constitution that I

726
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Speaker 1: haven't looked at in a while. And I think that's

727
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Speaker 1: what a lot of these people are hanging their hats on.

728
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Speaker 1: You know, the Constitution is it's not as flexible as

729
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Speaker 1: some would like to think.

730
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Speaker 2: But it is somewhat flexible to where.

731
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Speaker 1: You can impute a meaning to something that's perhaps not

732
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Speaker 1: what the founders intended. But you're right, you're right. Especially

733
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Speaker 1: it's a problem the federal government. Now, we do have

734
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Speaker 1: a tenth Amendment, which somebody referenced earlier in the show,

735
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Speaker 1: which basically says all those rights that are not given

736
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Speaker 1: to the federal government are reserved by the states. You

737
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Speaker 1: rarely see a case having to do with the Tenth

738
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Speaker 1: Amendment because people will say, hell, well that state's rights.

739
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Speaker 1: That must be racist, it's crazy.

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Speaker 10: Well I remember that, but you know that. Remember Ronald Reagan,

741
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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, you know. The worst nine words or eight

742
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Speaker 10: words or ten words was I'm from the federal government

743
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Speaker 10: and I'm here to help you.

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Speaker 2: Right, you are so right. And he was so right too.

745
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Speaker 1: I appreciate the call though, and yeah, I mean he

746
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Speaker 1: raises a good point.

747
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Speaker 2: I mean he's looking at it. I think from a

748
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Speaker 2: macro perspective.

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Speaker 1: Where in the Constitution does it say we have to

750
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Speaker 1: take care of people?

751
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Speaker 4: And you know.

752
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Speaker 2: It's it's not in there specifically.

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Speaker 1: I do know that, however, I mean, we are a

754
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Speaker 1: giving kind and caring country we are, and we don't

755
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Speaker 1: have problems helping people that need help. Now, I think

756
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Speaker 1: where we went overboard, and if you ever get an

757
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: honest professor or social scientist, that person would probably agree

758
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Speaker 1: we kind of went off the tracks with LBJ.

759
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Speaker 2: And so many times with libs. So many times.

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Speaker 1: They do have good and tens they have good intentions,

761
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Speaker 1: but their solutions never work. Lbj's war on poverty is

762
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Speaker 1: great society. I think you can look it up because

763
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Speaker 1: I know it's there. Has set black people and poor

764
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Speaker 1: people in general behind where they were before that. Again,

765
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Speaker 1: very well intentioned, but horrific results. Hey, let's talk to Mark. Hey, Mark,

766
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Speaker 1: how you doing good?

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Speaker 6: How are you this morning?

768
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Speaker 2: I'm good? What you got?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 11: On the socialism capitalism thing, I totally agree with you.

771
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Speaker 11: I think that the college and universities are a major problem.

772
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Speaker 11: I mean, even starting in high school, at elementary school,

773
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Speaker 11: it's bad and whatnot on it. And I think one

774
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Speaker 11: of the things that's happened here too is if you

775
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Speaker 11: go back and start going back to the late eighties

776
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Speaker 11: and nineties when our technology really changed and the whole

777
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 11: job economy changed, and you really today you cannot get

778
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 11: a good paying job that you can support a family

779
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Speaker 11: on today unless you've got a professional degree or a

780
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Speaker 11: skill or a trade. Not not to say that if

781
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Speaker 11: you if you don't have that, you that you can't

782
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Speaker 11: make it. You but the way to get there is

783
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 11: there as difficult. And the problem is our educational system

784
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 11: really didn't change. It really hasn't changed dramatically since you know,

785
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Speaker 11: after World War Two that we sold we sold trades

786
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Speaker 11: and skills down the road.

787
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Speaker 2: And just go to.

788
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Speaker 4: College and get it, you know, get a.

789
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Speaker 11: Get a degree in psychology or one of these what

790
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 11: I call toilet paper degrees that basically don't that really

791
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 11: don't do anything for you, prepare you for the modern world.

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Speaker 1: You mean, something like feminist studies comes to mind.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean yeah, I mean, what what are you

794
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Speaker 4: going to do with that?

795
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Speaker 2: Who's going to hire you with that?

796
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Speaker 4: What do you bring into the table with that?

797
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Speaker 2: Exactly?

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Speaker 4: You know, when you, you and.

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Speaker 11: I are about the same age, Mike, and when I

800
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Speaker 11: when we both got out of school, you could you

801
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 11: could get out with a you know, you could get

802
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Speaker 11: out with a you know, with any kind of degree

803
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Speaker 11: in college. You could find a lot of you know,

804
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Speaker 11: companies that would train you for a job.

805
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Speaker 1: That four year degree. Nah, I say this and I

806
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Speaker 1: believe it. That four year degree back then, just like

807
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: you said, that pretty much guaranteed you a job, maybe

808
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: not in the field that you really want, but it did.

809
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Speaker 2: That's not true at all anymore.

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Speaker 11: No, I mean, the point is is that you and

811
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Speaker 11: the other thing is you have to look at where

812
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Speaker 11: the economy is. Most companies today, most companies are not

813
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Speaker 11: Fortune five hundred companies. I think about seventeen percent of

814
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Speaker 11: the US population working population works for a large Fortune

815
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Speaker 11: five hundred type company like a P and G. Where

816
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 11: those companies will in many cases will hire you with

817
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 11: you know, with a lot of different degrees and train you.

818
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Speaker 11: But but the thing is, you look at a lot

819
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Speaker 11: of these smaller companies, you know, that are less than

820
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Speaker 11: fifty people. And I think in the state of Ohio,

821
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Speaker 11: I think I think about seventy percent of the companies

822
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Speaker 11: and businesses have less than fifty people. You have to

823
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Speaker 11: go in there with a skill or a trade or

824
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Speaker 11: something you know that they can hire you. And if

825
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 11: you've got those skills or trades, there's a pretty good

826
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Speaker 11: paying job there. But but we are we have not

827
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Speaker 11: we have not pushed other types of secondary education and whatnot,

828
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Speaker 11: trades and skills where there's some really good, high paying

829
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Speaker 11: jobs out there. And our kids get out of school

830
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Speaker 11: with all this debt, and they, you know, the best

831
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Speaker 11: they can do is find a job at Starbucks.

832
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're right about that.

833
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Speaker 1: And you know, unfortunately I'm out of time, Mark, but

834
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Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head and just about

835
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Speaker 1: everything you said, especially with respect to the trades. I'll

836
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Speaker 1: tell you what, a young man or woman who immediately

837
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: rejects that, they do so at their own peril because

838
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: they're good paying jobs, all of them, especially if it's

839
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Speaker 1: a union job, and that's not something that people ought

840
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Speaker 1: to shrug their shoulders on at any rate.

841
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Speaker 2: Now, I mean, you know, I'm trying.

842
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Speaker 11: I'm sorry, you know, if you if you look at

843
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 11: all these if you look at all these jobs and whatnot,

844
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Speaker 11: particularly with the manufacturing, I mean, if you've got you know,

845
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Speaker 11: a certification and electric you know or whatever.

846
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm getting in my ears.

847
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Speaker 1: No problem, Okay, thank you, great call, Mark, Thank you care,

848
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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Hey, we got to take a break, but

849
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Speaker 1: when we get back, we're going to talk to Janis

850
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Speaker 1: Heuzel about the things that I told you we were

851
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Speaker 1: going to talk to her about at ten o'clock and

852
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Speaker 1: Roger and Columbus hang on, I'll get you ten thirty

853
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: to eleven Mike Allen, Saturday midday. Well, just days after

854
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Speaker 1: the United States fired a one way attack drone for

855
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Speaker 1: the first time in combat, a Senate Committee on I

856
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: believe Wednesday of this week Thursday maybe highlighted an urgent

857
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Speaker 1: need to increase military unmanned vehicle production, training, and use.

858
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Speaker 1: This issue has profound implications for both our war fighting

859
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Speaker 1: readiness and our future prosperity. I'm not really sure Americans

860
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Speaker 1: understand that fully yet. Senator Roger Wicker, Republican of Mississippi,

861
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Speaker 1: is the chair of the Senate Committee on Armed Services,

862
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Speaker 1: and he said that here to talk about this and

863
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Speaker 1: other things of this morning is Janis Heisel, Senior reporter

864
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Speaker 1: for The Epoch Times. Janis, it's been a while. Thanks

865
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Speaker 1: for calling in.

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Speaker 12: This morning, sure, Mike, thanks for having me.

867
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Speaker 1: Hey, Before we get into anything, I just wanted to

868
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Speaker 1: tell my listeners you told me about earlier in the week.

869
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Speaker 2: The Epoch Times did very in depth.

870
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Speaker 1: I guess it's a story lots of charts how Operation

871
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Speaker 1: Epic Fury unfolded.

872
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Speaker 2: I printed it out and it is incredible.

873
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Speaker 1: If you want to know the story and times and

874
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Speaker 1: facts and dates of where this happened, you ought to

875
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Speaker 1: get on the epoch epoch times and get it. It's

876
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Speaker 1: how Operation Epic Fury. And thank you for letting me

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Speaker 1: know that. Janis sure.

878
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 12: I mean, we have an incredible graphics team, and sometimes

879
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 12: trying to explain things in words, it is kind of convoluted,

880
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 12: and so sometimes just that like literally it has a

881
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 12: map and shows all the different strikes, the timelines of

882
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 12: the strikes. It is really really useful. I'm really proud.

883
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 12: I wasn't actually part of that project, but I'm very

884
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 12: proud that we produced it.

885
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mean for people like me, the

886
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: graphics are a hell of a lot easier than reading.

887
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,479
Speaker 1: But anyway, wanted to talk to a couple stories here.

888
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: The first one on the drones. It sure seems to me,

889
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: Janus Heizel, that it's all about the drones in this war.

890
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: What do you think or almost all about the drones exactly.

891
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 12: I was thinking about the fact that in the past

892
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 12: warfare was a lot of a hand to hand combat.

893
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 12: This is now literally, my technology can beat up your technology,

894
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 12: is what it is coming down to themes, because you know,

895
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 12: our detection and interception systems have been able to as

896
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 12: well as the Iranian ones have been able to in

897
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 12: some of the of our allies in the region have

898
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 12: been able to intercept some of these uh, you know,

899
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 12: missiles and things that are coming in and so like

900
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 12: preventing those strikes, and then sophisticated technology goes in and

901
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 12: penetrates their system. So it's really again, my technology can

902
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 12: beat up your technology. In these drones. They are completely

903
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 12: changing how warfare works.

904
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: It like it, And am I correct to say in

905
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: your research that we the United States of America are

906
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: kind of lagging behind on this.

907
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 2: Is that a fair statement.

908
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 12: Well, there's a definite push and there's a definite realization

909
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 12: that actually did predate the war. People didn't realize this,

910
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 12: you know, several years ago. But the problem is you

911
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 12: can't just flick a switch and turn on American drone production.

912
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 12: It's a process. And part of the issue is the

913
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 12: Chinese did some thing really smart. They recognized very early

914
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 12: on years ago that drones were going to be the

915
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 12: wave of the future. So what do they do they incentivized,

916
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 12: that is, subsidized drone production in their country. So they're

917
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 12: people were able to undercut America and every country in

918
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 12: the world literally by coming out with cheaper and better drones,

919
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 12: and so in the marketplace, people are like, well, see

920
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 12: this drone is better and it's less expensive. Of course

921
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 12: I'm going to buy that instead of buying main MARKA. Right,

922
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 12: So you know America has realized this, and also then

923
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 12: the concern is what is this, What are these Chinese

924
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 12: components doing? Are they actually covertly collecting things that we

925
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 12: aren't aware of? So there's a lot of concern about that.

926
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 12: So there's been a legislation actually that is pushing America

927
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 12: away from this. It literally just took effect, a full

928
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 12: effect in December. And so this congressional hearing the Senate,

929
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 12: Harry actually that I listened to the other day on Thursday, Yeah,

930
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 12: it was Thursday. They were discussing how all the efforts

931
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 12: to just ramp up American drone production remove those obstacles

932
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 12: per an executive order from President Trump last summer.

933
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean it does seem like we're catching up.

934
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: I read either in your story or heard somewhere else

935
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: the average cost, or maybe the low end cost of

936
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: a drone is about thirty five thousand dollars UH, stacked

937
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: up against two million for a missile. Is that accurate.

938
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 12: On the type of drone, this particular drone. And I've

939
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 12: become kind of a drone nerd. I'm normally not much

940
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 12: of a techy person, but I got very interested in drones,

941
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 12: if you recall. You and I discussed how Cincinnati Police

942
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 12: and many other police agencies are using drones in their work.

943
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 12: And I toured a drone factory and we've talked about that.

944
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 12: So I'm not really really interested in drones, and I

945
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 12: was able to learn from fascinating things about this new

946
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 12: low cost Unmanned Combat tax System or LUCAS drone. The

947
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 12: the you know, the military, They love their actuals and abbreviations,

948
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 12: so that LUCAS is actually a lot easier to say

949
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 12: than low costs on them. But anyway, so what this

950
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 12: drone is the thing that the Admiral pointed out, the

951
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 12: guy who's in charge of our command in that the

952
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 12: Middle East for this operation did say a couple of

953
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 12: different times that this is actually a model that was

954
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 12: captured from Iran, right or that apart and kind of

955
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 12: revamped it and proved it and put it back out

956
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 12: there to use against Irn. And so we made our

957
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 12: first use of this new Lucas drone. And this particular

958
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 12: drone costs about thirty five thousand dollars each. But some

959
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 12: of the reusable and more sophisticated drones which are used

960
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 12: for things like reconnaissance, they've got expensive cameras. Some of

961
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 12: these can cost forty million dollars. These are one way

962
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 12: that or what what they called suicide drones or kama

963
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 12: Kazi drones, because these drones are made to just go

964
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 12: in guns to blaze and they're not coming back.

965
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: Well, you know a cool part of this. You just

966
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: mentioned it too in your story page two.

967
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

968
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: It was manufactured after quote, we captured it, pulled the

969
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: guts out of it, put a little bit of made

970
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: in America on it, then made it. Then it made

971
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: an independent, defensible part of US strikes against Iran. I

972
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: don't know, I just think it's kind of cool. We

973
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: took something from those people and jiggered around with it

974
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: and made it better.

975
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 2: I think that's a success story right there.

976
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 12: Well, the admiral did seem to be Party pro out

977
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 12: of pointing that out a couple of times.

978
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: So yes, yeah, and.

979
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if you mentioned this or not. The

980
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: US drone from your story, US drone development has lagged

981
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 1: largely because the Red Chinese, the Communist Chinese Communist Party

982
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 1: heavily subsidized its drone mads.

983
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 2: And aren't we doing that too, janis.

984
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 12: Well that aspect of it. I know, we're trying to

985
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 12: do things to ramp up the drone production, and maybe

986
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 12: to a certain degree, but what we're doing is moving

987
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 12: away from buying the Chinese drones and opening the market

988
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 12: then to our American drone makers, and they know if

989
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 12: they're going to be able to place an order for

990
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 12: thirty thousand drones, that then the cost of those individual

991
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 12: drones is going to go down for example.

992
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I mean it's something that certainly is a

993
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: rapidly evolving science, I suppose, and it looks like we're

994
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: jumping back into it, maybe a little bit small bigger

995
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: than when we first did.

996
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 2: I mean, do you agree with that?

997
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 11: Yeah?

998
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 12: And one of the most fascinating things also is the

999
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 12: fact that the Ukrainians, because of their extensive use of drones,

1000
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 12: have become now known as some of the best manufacturers

1001
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 12: of drones in the world. So now we're trying to

1002
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 12: lure Ukrainian companies to come here and build in our

1003
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 12: country their types of drones for our use.

1004
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: You know what, whatever it takes.

1005
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, I did read in your story,

1006
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that Iran supplies drones to Russia. It

1007
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: was at that part of your research that you found correct.

1008
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 12: Yes, throughout the now can you believe that it's been

1009
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 12: four years since that February invasion of Israel? So it's been.

1010
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: Four years now, that's yeah, I wouldn't have I wouldn't

1011
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: have guessed that.

1012
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: One more on drones and then we'll move to the

1013
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: other story. Boy, it was great too.

1014
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: I read one point one billion is to be spent

1015
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: on drones over the next eighteen months.

1016
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: Is that accurate. It sounds like we're taking it serious.

1017
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, but some people are questioning. Some people on this

1018
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 12: Senate committee, we're questioning whether that's even enough. Yeah, because

1019
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 12: the paint at which these things are being improved upon

1020
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 12: is incredible. Americans right now are going, hey, we're going

1021
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 12: to have a competition every six months, and one of

1022
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 12: the senators who recently visited Ukraine to look at these drones.

1023
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 12: We say they are revamping their drone technology every two weeks.

1024
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: Wow.

1025
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to get caught up on that. I

1026
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: did lie. One last question, Does it appear to you

1027
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: to be that our lack of drones could potentially affect.

1028
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 2: The war in Iran? That's kind of what I worry

1029
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 2: about a little bit.

1030
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 4: Well, you know, of.

1031
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 12: Course, they don't let out how much supply we already have,

1032
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 12: and I know they've been kind of phasing out they

1033
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 12: can't use. I don't remember all the exact rules of

1034
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 12: the legislation. Like I said, it did take effect just

1035
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 12: in December, so I don't know what kind of supply

1036
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 12: we currently have. But I haven't heard anything yet about

1037
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 12: a lack of supply. But considering that these are one way,

1038
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 12: you know, Kamakazi, they go in and quote unquote dye

1039
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 12: never come back. Yeah, you know those are going to

1040
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 12: get used it quickly. So I'm assuming we're probably using

1041
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 12: them judiciously in accordance with how.

1042
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: Much we have on supply, I would hope.

1043
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: So fantastic story about what Iranians in the US seems

1044
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: like mainly women. This is from your story consider airstrikes

1045
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: has helped to liberate their homeland. You talk to a

1046
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: lot of people, Janie, just give me a general idea

1047
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: of what they said, and I'll have some specific questions.

1048
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at your article. I'm looking at the picture.

1049
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: It's in full color. Where these people, the pro Iranian,

1050
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean Iranian American people are looking at pictures where

1051
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: you got President Trump, thank you American flags pre nineteen

1052
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: seventy nine Iranian flags. It sure seems like these people

1053
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: are grateful to President Trump in the US.

1054
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 2: Would that be accurate?

1055
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 12: Absolutely?

1056
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 4: Yes.

1057
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 12: We produced that story literally within a few hours of

1058
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 12: the strikes against Iran. And what was interesting to me

1059
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 12: actually we again interview three men and three women. I

1060
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 12: worked with several of my colleagues to get opinions from

1061
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 12: Iranians across America. Were talked to people in California, Texas, DC, Austin,

1062
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 12: all over to try to get a diverse opinion, and

1063
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 12: actually it was universal. Men women from all different parts

1064
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 12: of the country. At least the ones we spoke to

1065
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,919
Speaker 12: who are originally from Iran or have family ties there,

1066
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 12: all said how grateful they are. They do consider this

1067
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 12: to be as one told us a quote a mission

1068
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 12: to liberate ninety million people in our run. Now, a

1069
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 12: lot of Americans would feel like this isn't necessarily our

1070
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 12: business or whatever, But there are a lot of complicated reasons,

1071
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 12: including some Chinese connections and things that you know, you

1072
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 12: could definitely argue that this is one of the main

1073
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 12: reasons we did help out there is because of the

1074
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 12: Chinese and Iran kind of ties as well, and just

1075
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 12: the suffering of the people in Iran for the last

1076
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 12: forty seven years. Interestingly that the forty seventh president is

1077
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 12: the one who decided to go ahead and move in

1078
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 12: on them. Sure, but so yeah, these people. One of

1079
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 12: the interviews that stood out to me the most was

1080
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 12: one that I personally conducted. The other ones were done

1081
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 12: by my colleagues. I did two of them out of

1082
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 12: the six, and.

1083
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 2: This man was nearly in tears.

1084
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 12: When he said that these beautiful young Iranian women have

1085
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 12: literally torn off their jobs, those full you know, covering

1086
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 12: over the head and body. That is that the it's

1087
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 12: literal law you've got aware the is required by the

1088
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 12: Islamic regime. They and they face literally huge finds in

1089
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 12: prison or death for doing this and they tore them

1090
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 12: off and they burned them in the streets as a sign,

1091
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 12: even before all this happened with America, you know that

1092
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 12: I am not standing up. I am going to stand

1093
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Speaker 12: up against this regime. I am not going to have

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Speaker 12: my religious right taken away from me. And I've also

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Speaker 12: heard where Iran it's supposed of one of the largest

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Speaker 12: conversion rates to Christianity going on in the world right now.

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Speaker 12: But it's because yes, these people, that is something that

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Speaker 12: I'm not at one hundred percent. I've getten independently vetted,

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Speaker 12: but this one report I did see, there's reason to

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Speaker 12: believe that this is going on. So I think that

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Speaker 12: that's a credible report, is what I'm saying. And I've

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Speaker 12: got to say that people do not realize the level

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Speaker 12: of surveillance. They literally have like cameras that and also

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Speaker 12: teams on the streets that will watch for women to

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Speaker 12: take off the job, even in their own cars by themselves,

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Speaker 12: and they get busted.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question, and it might be

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Speaker 1: the most important question based on talking to them, and

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Speaker 1: I know you didn't talk to everybody, obviously, do they

1110
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Speaker 1: understand that it's up to them Iranian citizens to act

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01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: and take over their government. And President Trump, what did

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Speaker 1: he It's in your story here, Yeah, here's what he said.

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Speaker 1: In a video address, Trump told Iran's citizen read to

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Speaker 1: remain sheltered until the bombing cease. And I'm quoting President

1115
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Speaker 1: Trump here, when we are finished take over your government.

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Speaker 1: This will probably be your only chance for generations. Are

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Speaker 1: they ready to do that? Janis, because I'm not really

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Speaker 1: seeing that. Maybe it's too early in the process. But

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 12: Well, for what these people in my interviewee told me

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Speaker 12: they do to me to be very aware of this

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01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 12: and very committed to it. Now, whether they actually have

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Speaker 12: any kind of weapons or anything to do that, I

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01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 12: don't know that, but I do know that one of

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Speaker 12: them told me. You know, one of the ladies is saying,

1126
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 12: you know, tearfully, how you know we we did our best.

1127
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 12: That the people did go into the streets and protests

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Speaker 12: and they kill them by the tens of thousands, yea

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Speaker 12: of thousands, and that news hardly got out because of

1130
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 12: the state controled media goes to show how important free

1131
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 12: media is, and I got to tell you, it's like

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Speaker 12: it just I feel a little bit of shamed as

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01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 12: an American that I haven't paid more attention to some

1134
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 12: of the situations across the world because the world literally

1135
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 12: has shrunks because of technology, and now thanks to things

1136
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 12: like Starlink, the Starlink system, bite Elon Musk, there are

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Speaker 12: people able to get those videos out so the world

1138
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 12: can see what is happening in ran behind that mask

1139
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 12: of the state on the media.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, I was thinking about that too.

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Speaker 1: I have not seen any video or anything else of

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Speaker 1: the I don't doubt that it's taken place, the mass

1143
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: murder at the hands of the Ayah Toola and his cronies,

1144
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: but I'm sure it's out there.

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Speaker 12: And some of the things that are coming out about

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01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 12: what is considered okay under this regime, you know, child

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01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 12: marriages as young as nine years old, and women being

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01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 12: considered like powells and donkeys that you know, it's just

1149
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 12: it's it really goes against anything that we as Americans

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01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 12: would would think that it would be a no brainer

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01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 12: that women would don't deserve to be treated this way

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01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 12: and children shouldn't be married at is nice.

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Speaker 1: It certainly seems like Janisiel we are moving in the

1154
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,919
Speaker 1: right direction on this It's something that frankly I thought

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Speaker 1: would never happen. But again, it's going to be up

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01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: to them to do the big work. Although we did

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Speaker 1: a lot, but it's their country. They got to take

1158
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Speaker 1: it back. Hey, we're out of time. There's never enough time.

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Speaker 1: Really appreciate talking to you about this, Janis.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely one last question. One last thing. One to point

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Speaker 12: out is that when President Trunk comes to Sinnata and Wednesday,

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Speaker 12: I am supposed to be covering that, So you'll be

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Speaker 12: watching for my coverage there. Okay, follow me on x

1164
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Speaker 12: at Janice and Ice Heisel hisl E.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Janie, appreciate it, Thank you. Okay, we got

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Speaker 1: to take a break for the news. But when we

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Speaker 1: get back FOP, President Ken Kober, Mike Allen, Saturday Midday

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Speaker 1: NEICE Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen an hour three,

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Speaker 1: the third and final hour of Saturday Midday.

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Speaker 2: Well last Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: Sunday morning, a mass shooting occurred inside Riverfront Live music

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Speaker 1: and event venue in Cincinnati's East End, right along the

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Speaker 1: river there injuring nine people. The incident broke out around

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Speaker 1: one o'clock in the morning during a birthday celebration for

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Speaker 1: DJ fresh which was attended approximately five to six hundred people,

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Speaker 1: and the gunfight apparently sprang from a grudge whatever. That

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Speaker 1: is here to talk about it is Ken Coober, president

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Speaker 1: of FOP Lodge sixty nine. Ken, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: joining us this morning.

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Speaker 4: Sure, Good morning, Mike. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Hey, do you know or are you at liberty to

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Speaker 1: say what this so called grudge was just out of curiosity?

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Speaker 13: No, I would just know that it was a grudge

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Speaker 13: between two people that have been very long standing. And

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Speaker 13: actually the guy that started at Ferney Cobb actually just

1186
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Speaker 13: got out of prison in December after doing just over

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Speaker 13: a year for a gun charge, so I guess he

1188
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 13: had a year to think about how he was going

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Speaker 13: to settle this grudge.

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Speaker 2: I guess you can't make this stuff up.

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01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 1: You really can't just get getting out after one year

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Speaker 1: on a weapons charge. I mean, I don't know, Like

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Speaker 1: I said, unless you're in the system, people probably just

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Speaker 1: scratching their heads.

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Speaker 2: Can you do this for us? Ken?

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Speaker 1: Can you kind of walk us through what happened and

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Speaker 1: after that we'll get into the requirements and what some

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01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,799
Speaker 1: of the procedures are for CPD and off duty details,

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Speaker 1: but just kind of give my listeners an idea what

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Speaker 1: went down there last week.

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Speaker 13: Well, you know, you have this big birthday party going on,

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Speaker 13: five or six hundred people. I mean you're talking about

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01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 13: a massive crowd only I think three officers that were working,

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01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 13: you know, and at some point the big fight breaks out,

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01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:31,480
Speaker 13: shots start being fired. Of course, that's when everybody starts scattering,

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Speaker 13: and these three officers are left, at least initially to

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01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 13: try to manage this chaos while people are running every

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Speaker 13: which direction. They're trying to figure out, you who the

1209
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Speaker 13: gunmen are, where the guns are at. Things like that

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Speaker 13: just pure chaos that these officers had to walk into

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Speaker 13: and try to manage, along with trying to get fire

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Speaker 13: department there to be able to assist the people that

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Speaker 13: were wounded. I mean, it's just something that's unimaginable unless

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Speaker 13: you've been in that situation. To try to deal with

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Speaker 13: such a volatile situation, I.

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Speaker 1: Can't imagin And correct me if I'm wrong. Police officers

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Speaker 1: now are taught to run to the sound of the shots.

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Speaker 2: Is that correct?

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Speaker 1: You know they don't they don't actually stand outside and

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Speaker 1: debate it.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, Yeah. We used to have those called quad where

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Speaker 13: you waited for four officers to get there, and then

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01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 13: you systematically go in and try to figure out, you know,

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Speaker 13: where the thread is.

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Speaker 4: And we've learned over.

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Speaker 13: The years that that's just not a good idea because

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Speaker 13: every second you're waiting, more shots are being fired, more

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Speaker 13: people are.

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Speaker 4: Being wounded, more people are being killed.

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Speaker 13: So it's now to the point where you radio this

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Speaker 13: is the entrance or this is where I'm going to enter,

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Speaker 13: and you go. You don't wait for anybody.

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Speaker 2: You don't have time.

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Speaker 13: You know, time said it means lives, you know, just seconds,

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Speaker 13: So you know that way. Police officers know exactly where

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01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 13: they're entering, where they're going.

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Speaker 4: And it's just it's it's chaos.

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01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 13: But we all just have to figure out and do

1240
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 13: the best that we can to make sure we can

1241
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 13: save as many lives as we can.

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Speaker 1: I just hope the public realizes Cadnet police officers, as

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Speaker 1: we just said, go to the sound of the gunfire.

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01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: They go in there not knowing what the heck is

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01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,759
Speaker 1: going on. I mean, it's just I think an example

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Speaker 1: of bravery, which cops have to do every day with

1247
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: respect to some of the requirements and procedures for off

1248
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 1: duty details. Why are cops not allowed into or not allowed,

1249
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Speaker 1: but I guess train not to go in there and

1250
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: conduct their detail and observe inside as opposed to outside.

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Speaker 13: Well, I mean, imagine being a crowd of six hundred people,

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01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 13: you know, the vast majority of which are consuming alcohol.

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Speaker 13: And we know that adults, when they consume alcohol, it

1254
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 13: don't always make the best decisions. You've got loud music,

1255
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 13: you've got lights that are down, you know, all of

1256
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 13: these things that create tactical nightmares for officers. You know,

1257
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 13: they walk in if they're in their state patrolling. You know,

1258
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Speaker 13: this this large event where like I said, loud music,

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01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 13: all these people, it's almost impossible to communicate with each other.

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Speaker 13: So the best way for this, and which is why

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01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 13: we do these things where we're pretty much on a

1262
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 13: perimeter position. It's no different than the officers that work

1263
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 13: a Reds game. You ever go down to the Reds

1264
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 13: or Bangles or rest, see what do you see? You

1265
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 13: see the officers walking the concourse. That's right, they're they're

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Speaker 13: not they're not walking down you know where people are

1267
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 13: or you know watching a soccer event or you know

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01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 13: whatever sporting event, and the reason is, you know, they

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01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,719
Speaker 13: don't want officers going into a crowd by themselves unless

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Speaker 13: it is absolutely necessary, which would of course be the

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Speaker 13: case of a shooting. But their their primary job is

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01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 13: just to be visible. You'll create that presence where we

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01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 13: know that law enforcements around. For most people, that is

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01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 13: going to be enough to deter them from acting fillings. Yes,

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01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 13: not always the case. And you know, in this case,

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01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 13: you had two people that you know, go into a

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Speaker 13: birthday party armed when they know they're both felons, they

1278
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 13: can't carry guns, and for no other purpose than they're

1279
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 13: going to try to shoot somebody, try to kill somebody.

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Speaker 4: And those are things that it doesn't matter.

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01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 13: How much any policemen are there. If they want to

1282
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 13: act like that, they're going to act like that.

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Speaker 1: You know, Ken Cover, correct me if I'm wrong. I mean,

1284
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Speaker 1: that's pretty much par for the course these days, isn't it.

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01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: I mean, a gun everywhere, even these two jokers who

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Speaker 1: already were as convicted of weapons under disability. I guess

1287
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Speaker 1: I'm saying is cops really and the public has to

1288
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: be very aware of their circumstances and their surroundings.

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Speaker 13: Well, absolutely, because the police can't be everywhere. You know,

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01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 13: we're over one hundred officer short can't be everywhere all

1291
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Speaker 13: the time. And that's even if we were at full staff.

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01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 13: You know, the police cannot be everywhere. You have got

1293
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 13: to know your surroundings. You have to know the environment

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01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 13: which you're in. You know, the days of walking around

1295
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 13: just looking at your phone or putting earbuds in listening

1296
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,879
Speaker 13: to music while you're walking around somewhere, it doesn't work anymore.

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Speaker 13: You have to be paying attention to what's going on,

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01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 13: where you're at, are the people approaching you. The best

1299
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 13: thing you can do is to be aware of what's

1300
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 13: going on because it makes you less likely to be

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Speaker 13: a victim.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this too, and I know the

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01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: answer to this is not CPD, But who is ultimately

1304
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 1: in charge of the security there as far as how

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01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 1: many they're getting, who they're getting in that type of thing,

1306
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 1: it's not the Cincinnati Police Department, is it.

1307
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 4: No, we get a request from a place like this

1308
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 4: from Riverfront Live. They sent out a request we'd like

1309
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 4: to have three officers for this event. That's all these

1310
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 4: officers know is that, hey, there's this event that's going

1311
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 4: on and.

1312
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 13: We have three officers working at As far as you know,

1313
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 13: the wanding of people, you know, checking people's IDs.

1314
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 4: That is private securities job. It's not the job of

1315
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 4: the police. We're here to enforced laws, got.

1316
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 13: Administrative things, not their private protocols. That has nothing to

1317
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 13: do with the police. We're there simply to make sure that,

1318
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 13: you know, everybody can have a safe time and if

1319
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 13: something does happen, then well the police are there to

1320
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 13: deal with it.

1321
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 2: And it goes without saying.

1322
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 1: I think that the police are not there and I guess,

1323
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 1: according to procedure, are not to be involved in wanding

1324
01:14:58,280 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: people and getting in that.

1325
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 2: To go through metal detectors.

1326
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,759
Speaker 1: That's the job of the security of either the venue

1327
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: or the entertainer.

1328
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 2: Is that accurate?

1329
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1330
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 13: Sure, well, and laws have changed so now you can

1331
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 13: carry a firearm into a liquor establishment on a couple

1332
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 13: of conditions. One that the liquor establishment allows it, which

1333
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 13: they can allow it. In this case, they were saying

1334
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 13: that we're not allowing it, but you're allowed to so

1335
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,640
Speaker 13: long as the establishment says you can and you're not

1336
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 13: consuming alcohol. That's what the law says. You're allowed to

1337
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 13: do those.

1338
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 4: Things now, Yeah, you know.

1339
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 13: But a lot of them are restrictive and they should be.

1340
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 13: You really have no business carrying a firearm into a

1341
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 13: liquor establishment. It just bad things happen when you have

1342
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 13: a bunch of people together drinking alcohol. You know, people

1343
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 13: make bad decisions. We know people make very bad decisions

1344
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 13: when they're consuming alcohol. And then now you take two

1345
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 13: people that are volatile to begin with, that clearly have

1346
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 13: criminal histories, they have history of violence. You know, let's

1347
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 13: let's give them alcohol, give them a gun. You certainly

1348
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 13: we know nothing bad's going to happen.

1349
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then dump it at the feet of the

1350
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Police Department. Let me ask you this with respect

1351
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 1: to the bond in this case for one of these jokers,

1352
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: I guess fifty thousand dollars, as I understand it was

1353
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 1: not a ten percent, but a fifty thousand dollars straight bond.

1354
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: I guess our mayor is finally getting the picture. I mean,

1355
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 1: I guess he was out pretty quickly saying that that

1356
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: was inappropriate.

1357
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that?

1358
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 4: It's absolutely ridiculous.

1359
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 13: You know, why you would give a fifty thousand dollars

1360
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 13: bond to somebody that you know was part of this chaos.

1361
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 13: You know, nine people shot that the lasting effects that

1362
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 13: not only people that were there are going to have

1363
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 13: to deal with, but their families just just extends to

1364
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 13: so many people. When you give a fifty thousand dollars bond,

1365
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 13: it's absolutely just it's unfathomable.

1366
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 4: Thankfully, we had.

1367
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,839
Speaker 13: The ATF step up, step up, you know, they decided

1368
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 13: to sign some federal charges. You know, thankfully we have

1369
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 13: you know, Dominic Dras who's now the Southern Ohio District

1370
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 13: Attorney down here, that has made it clear that if

1371
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 13: the local courts don't want to punish these people appropriately,

1372
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 13: the Feds will step in and do it. And believe me,

1373
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 13: we are thankful that we have our federal partners to be.

1374
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 4: Able to help us when sometimes local for sale.

1375
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: Let me tell you some I've been around way, way

1376
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 1: too long, and that is extremely unusual where you will

1377
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: have the Feds come in where there are pending county charges.

1378
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: It's extremely unusual, I think entirely appropriate for this situation.

1379
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: You started to talk about it a little bit. Was

1380
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 1: that a deal where CPD or the Hamilt County Prosecutor's

1381
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: office came in and requested that the Feds do this

1382
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 1: or is it something that they did on their own?

1383
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: If you know.

1384
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 13: I don't know that it was so much a request,

1385
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 13: but I was in some meetings last fall with a

1386
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,719
Speaker 13: lot of our federal partners and they made it clear, Listen,

1387
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 13: we're not playing around with this. If judges in Hamilton

1388
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 13: County don't want to follow the wall as it comes

1389
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 13: to bonds things like that, we know that they're not

1390
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 13: being punished like.

1391
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 4: They should be. So they said, look, we're going to

1392
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 4: do this.

1393
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 13: And we just saw it again with Shaquille Ferguson, the

1394
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 13: guy who was involved in the city burdensident a Fountain Square.

1395
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 13: You're the prosecutor's office, drops and charges. Feds came in

1396
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 13: and said, no, we don't care. Guy's not supposed to

1397
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 13: have a firearm. He's a convicted felon. We'll sign federal

1398
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 13: charges that with our there's actually some accountability. Unfortunately, the

1399
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 13: fact that we have to have our federal partners step

1400
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 13: in is not ideal, but in the interest of making

1401
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 13: sure that people in this county are protected, that's what

1402
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 13: they have to do, and we're certainly thankful they're willing

1403
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 13: to well.

1404
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, I'm sure the citizens of

1405
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: this city are thankful as well, because, like I said

1406
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: in all my years in the system, it just didn't happen.

1407
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 1: It could happen, and you're allowed to be charged both

1408
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 1: federally and state. But talk getting back to the bond.

1409
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 1: I mean, these two guys, correct me if I'm wrong.

1410
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 1: They had records for weapons under dis ability and in

1411
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 1: other weapons related charge.

1412
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 2: Is that correct?

1413
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

1414
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 13: I mean both both of them have been to prison

1415
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 13: more than once.

1416
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 3: I know.

1417
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 4: I believe the other guy, Derek Long.

1418
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 13: That was involved, was most recently got out of prison

1419
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 13: I think in twenty twenty four.

1420
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 3: So these these aren't people.

1421
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 4: This isn't just a.

1422
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 13: One off well, you know, they just got in an

1423
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 13: argument and things got out of control. These are people

1424
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 13: that have led adult lives of crime that are going

1425
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 13: to continue to do that, and not to hold them accountable,

1426
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 13: not to look at you know what the voters voted on.

1427
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 13: You know what the Ohio constitution that judges must consider

1428
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 13: the safety of the residents when issuing a bond. And

1429
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 13: you have some of these judges, actually most of them

1430
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 13: now in Hamilton County are just snubbing their nose to

1431
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 13: what the people in Ohio voted for and are just

1432
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 13: doing whatever they want.

1433
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 4: And that's that's the biggest problem that we have.

1434
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: You know, for the like me, I'll never figure out

1435
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,879
Speaker 1: the whys or wherefores why they think that way. And frankly,

1436
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: it does seem to come down along party lines. We've

1437
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: got a lot more Democrat judges down there than Republicans anymore.

1438
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 4: Uh.

1439
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: And I don't want to criticize the individual judge. I

1440
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: don't even know who it is, but I mean, when

1441
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 1: you got somebody in front of you like that, you

1442
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 1: got to make sure you give them a bond where

1443
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: they're not going to get out. But hey, you know

1444
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: that's just me. I guess let me ask you this too.

1445
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at this thing, it's something

1446
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: that people are aware it's going to happen again. And

1447
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: I guess CPD does everything they can to train people

1448
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: officers to be able to respond to this stuff. Is

1449
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 1: this something that's going up? I guess you're seeing more

1450
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 1: of I bet the answers, Yes.

1451
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 4: We absolutely.

1452
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 13: I mean that's why constantly every year it's called continued

1453
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 13: professional training, where we're constantly going over tactics.

1454
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 2: Things of all.

1455
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 13: Like you said, you know oural quad system where we

1456
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 13: had where you had you really stood out of a

1457
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 13: building and waited for three other officers to get their

1458
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 13: sea could go in. We've learned that that's not going

1459
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 13: to work, so we're constantly reviewing tactics, especially when you

1460
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 13: see that these mass shootings are happening more and more

1461
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 13: and more.

1462
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 4: I mean just Saturday night, you know.

1463
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 13: We had one I believe in Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Austin,

1464
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 13: Texas all on the same night.

1465
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 2: Wow.

1466
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 13: So we have to we've all we have to find

1467
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 13: ways to be able to protect the public better. But

1468
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 13: that also starts with making sure that you can protect yourself.

1469
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 2: YEP. I couldn't agree with you more.

1470
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: Last question, you had mentioned something a little bit earlier

1471
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 1: on that you are still one hundred officers short. Now,

1472
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: I had thought that that was that gap was starting

1473
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 1: to close a little bit, but you're still one hundred short.

1474
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were.

1475
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 13: Actually at the beginning of the year, we were over

1476
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 13: one hundred and fifty short. Graduated a class of fifty

1477
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 13: four thankfully the end of January, getting ready to start

1478
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 13: a class of around sixty at.

1479
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 4: The end of April.

1480
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 13: The problem the class every nine months fifty sixty people,

1481
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,440
Speaker 13: but we're losing fifty sixty seventy.

1482
01:21:58,080 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 2: A year to begin with.

1483
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 13: So right now, at best, we're only replacing the ones

1484
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 13: we've lost.

1485
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 4: Until we start you're getting to where we're.

1486
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 13: Getting a positive on this, where we're hiring more than

1487
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 13: we're losing.

1488
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 4: We're going to continue in the situation, and I think

1489
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 4: it's going to be years before we actually catch up.

1490
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 1: I tell you, And we've talked about this till the

1491
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: cows come home. But in my wildest dreams, I never

1492
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: thought you'd have a hard time finding people that wanted

1493
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: to be police officers.

1494
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 2: It's just a shame. Hey, really appreciate you spending time

1495
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 2: with us.

1496
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 4: Ken, Sure, yeah, I appreciate you having Mama always happy

1497
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 4: to come on your show.

1498
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1499
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 1: All right, all right, that's Ken Kober, President FOP Lodge

1500
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: sixty nine.

1501
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I mean.

1502
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: I just made the comment that I can't believe we

1503
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 1: can't find people that want to be cops anymore. And

1504
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 1: I mean that, but then kind of on the other hand, man,

1505
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,799
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would want that job today.

1506
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: And I make it a point to talk to s cops.

1507
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: I was on a long time ago for a very

1508
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 1: short period of time, but talk to some of these

1509
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 1: older officers, and I'll ask the question, if things are

1510
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 1: like they are today and you're just going into police work,

1511
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 1: is it's something that you'd want to do. And I'm

1512
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: telling you what almost to the person, it's no. I mean,

1513
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 1: that job has changed so much and I don't think

1514
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 1: in large part for the better.

1515
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 2: But hey, that's just me. Hey, we got to take

1516
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 2: a break, but we will be back.

1517
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 1: Mike Allen Saturday, Man, that rocks. Hey, we're back seven

1518
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:39,799
Speaker 1: hundred WLW, the home of the soon to be playing

1519
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: for real in late I believe it's early April. So anyway,

1520
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I was down in Florida last week

1521
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: and saw the Tigers play the Minnesota Twins. Not a

1522
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 1: real exciting game, but it was still fun to be there. Hey,

1523
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: I tell you what, I can't wait once baseball is

1524
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 1: within sight. I've got this funny kind of thing like, hey,

1525
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: we can get through whatever weeks are left of crappy weather.

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01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 2: So anyway, looking forward to that.

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01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm going to get back the phone, specifically Rick

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01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 1: in Dallas, but I have one more thing that I

1529
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: want to blow off about. I guess this should be

1530
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 1: no surprise. This came out I think yesterday, women by

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01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: the name of Rama Duwaji, who just happens to be

1532
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 1: the wife of New York City mayor noted socialist, probably communist,

1533
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:39,719
Speaker 1: Zorin Mondami, is currently facing social media scrutiny for liking

1534
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 1: Instagram posts that appeared to this is the important part

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01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: celebrate or support the October seven, twenty twenty three Hamas

1536
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 1: attacks on Israel. Okay, you might say, what's the big deal, Mike, Okay,

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01:24:55,320 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 1: text or posts that appear to celebrate or support you know,

1538
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: I think people forget about this.

1539
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 2: Because it's convenient to forget about it.

1540
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 1: What the Moss and by extension, Palestine did on that

1541
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 1: day that, like President Roosevelt said, that will be a

1542
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 1: day of infamy, mass killing of citizens. I think it

1543
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 1: was about fifteen hundred sexual violence and mutilation, hostage taking, brutality, torture,

1544
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 1: rocket fire.

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01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 2: That's what she got on that day. And why his

1546
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 2: wife and.

1547
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: I get it, it's not him, it's his wife, but

1548
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 1: still allowed to talk about it and speculate about it.

1549
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 1: But why someone would be celebrating or supporting that, I

1550
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 1: have never been able to get my head around. Of course,

1551
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 1: they celebrated on the College campus all the time. No

1552
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 1: big surprise there, but anyway, the nature of it. She

1553
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 1: reportedly likes several inflammatory posts on the day of the

1554
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 1: attack and shortly thereafter.

1555
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 2: The facts were already out by then. Listen to this.

1556
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: One post featured a bulldozer breaching the border fence, with

1557
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: the caption quote breaking the walls of apartheid in military

1558
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:21,799
Speaker 1: occupation close quote. This one is particularly disgusting. Another post

1559
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:26,759
Speaker 1: showed Palestinian celebrating a top at captured Israeli Defense Forces

1560
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 1: IDF vehicle. So there you go. The the mayor of

1561
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 1: New York. His wife is out there liking post that

1562
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: celebrate that. So, I mean she'll have to deal with it.

1563
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 1: I suppose he'll have to deal with it, but so

1564
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: be it. Hey, let me talk to Rick in Dallas.

1565
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: We got time to do that. How you doing, Rick?

1566
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to the Risk season coming up.

1567
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, what do you?

1568
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 14: You know?

1569
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 2: What I mean?

1570
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 1: I'm always optimistic, but I just got a good feeling

1571
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: about them.

1572
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 2: This year. They really improved.

1573
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 14: It'd be nice if they would have a beginning year

1574
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 14: like real back in nineteen seventy when they first got played.

1575
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, remember what happened?

1576
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 2: I sure do.

1577
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: And you know the reason why they did that, Rick,

1578
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you know is because we were the

1579
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: first professional team. I wish they would get back to it,

1580
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I guess things change.

1581
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 3: Well, I'll give back to the politicians. You don't want

1582
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 3: terrific favor that Biden did Trump and the military today,

1583
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,879
Speaker 3: what's that? Okay?

1584
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 14: By going into Ukraine, they got to test all of

1585
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 14: these weapons, the stuff that Trump's losing now, a lot

1586
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 14: of that stuff that perfected over there?

1587
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 2: You play, you know what, who do you think for that?

1588
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 1: That's that's a good point. I mean, that's a good point.

1589
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 1: Oh I'll never thank him for anything, but it is

1590
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: a good point. I'm sure the military is putting those

1591
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 1: things through their paces. And you know one thing, I

1592
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: was in reserve for ten years. I was in the

1593
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: jag corts. Nothing like at all about what these guys

1594
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 1: are facing. But the army is got a thing about

1595
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 1: what they call after action reports. So you better believe

1596
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: that those weapons will be getting some scrutiny. And that

1597
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: is a side benefit from it.

1598
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 2: I guess.

1599
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 14: So, and a guy knows that Trump was about Trump,

1601
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 14: Biden was sitting you.

1602
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 3: Claimed the world.

1603
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 14: Yeah, all of the muscle systems and stuff got tested

1604
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,879
Speaker 14: out so and it got perfected too. So that's why

1605
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,679
Speaker 14: it's so successful that I was one of the main reasons.

1606
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I mean, maybe we can put

1607
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 1: that as one thing in his column, But I honestly think,

1608
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 1: and I believe it or not, I'm not being partisan here.

1609
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 1: He probably will be the worst president in the history

1610
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 1: of this country. You know, it doesn't start now like

1611
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan. They put the scholars and the professors put

1612
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: him pretty close to the bottom. He's now always in

1613
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 1: the top ten. But Biden, he hurt this country in

1614
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 1: innumerable ways.

1615
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 2: Oh oh, and.

1616
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 3: What about their bear cats?

1617
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 4: Oh? Wow?

1618
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 2: About that?

1619
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 14: When did they played at Texas Tech? That's gonna be

1620
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 14: a big game? Is that this weekend?

1621
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 1: Or I'm not that sure. Let me ask you this though.

1622
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: What about Miami University? I mean, I know they're not

1623
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, UK duke is status, but I mean to

1624
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: go undefeated in a in a season is amazing. I

1625
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: hope they go far as far as they can in

1626
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 1: the tournament because I think that's cool.

1627
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:35,719
Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, yeah, the uh, the people, the selection makers,

1628
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 14: they're going to be looking closely at that tournament, what

1629
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 14: their record is. And uh, they still might get screwed

1630
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,640
Speaker 14: to the tournament, I know, I mean they may they

1631
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,799
Speaker 14: might say, oh, you got you guys had a cupcake schedule,

1632
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 14: you know, so you lost two games at a tournament,

1633
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 14: so therefore you're not going to get.

1634
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 2: A bit you know.

1635
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully they'll get a good seat. Hey, I got

1636
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 1: to get out of here. Rick, I'm about done with

1637
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 1: the show here. But thanks as always for your call.

1638
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 1: Always like when you call, Okay, Buck, thank you.

1639
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what.

1640
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm not usually a college basketball person, but I'm telling

1641
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 1: you what. I'm gonna follow Miami. I mean, I hope

1642
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: it's not a one and done, but I don't care

1643
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 1: what league they're in to do that. What was it

1644
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 1: thirty one or thirty two? And oh that's amazing. One

1645
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 1: other thing before I get out of here. The World

1646
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 1: Baseball Classic. Well that's something that's catching on and I'm

1647
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 1: watching that. I didn't see any reds on the roster though,

1648
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 1: but that's okay. They won last night. By the way,

1649
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 1: I forget Brazil. They beat Brazil. Anyway, I am out

1650
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: of here. Mike Allen seven hundred WLW