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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, good golly.

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Speaker 8: Gosh, Hey guys, who's a bride in the NBA boys?

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Speaker 9: Anyway?

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Speaker 8: I want to make myself perfectly clear. Every day I

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Speaker 8: leave a talkback as if it would be the last

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Speaker 8: one I ever do. I've been doing this since twenty

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Speaker 8: twenty two, and I've been through the highs of being

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Speaker 8: on the top five talk back yes to the lows

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Speaker 8: when the post got fired. Every day it's about putting

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Speaker 8: in the work. It's about leaving a talkback back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well said, Well said Brad and the BA who Yeah. Consistency,

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Speaker 3: that is true. He has been consistent. I listened.

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Speaker 10: Does Zach Taylor talk to the media yesterday? Boy, that

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Speaker 10: was exciting. My two biggest takeaways. Number One, note to self,

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Speaker 10: don't ever ask Zach Taylor any questions about his contract.

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Speaker 10: If you do, he'll suddenly go combative X wife on you.

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Speaker 10: Number two, according to Zach, Shamar Stuart pays attention during

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Speaker 10: team meetings. Dude sits in the front row. He looks

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Speaker 10: at Zach, and Zach looks at Shamar, and Schamar is

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Speaker 10: absorbing the information He's staring at Zach, Zach's looking at.

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Speaker 3: He was very complimentary of Shamar Stuart. I think Shamar

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Speaker 3: is trying to like change a bit of a narrative

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Speaker 3: about it. He got off on the wrong foot. I

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Speaker 3: hope that this offseason he's healthy, there's no distractions, and

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Speaker 3: he can, you know, adequately prepare for an NFL season

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Speaker 3: and hopefully be better. I mean, obviously the Bengals are

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Speaker 3: going to need him to be better. But it does

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Speaker 3: feel like to me like Shamar Stewart is like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: let me let me work on my image here, because

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Speaker 3: we clearly didn't get off on the right foot, and

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Speaker 3: a lot of Bengals fans are already out on Shamar Stewart,

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Speaker 3: and I think that's unfair.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Zach is.

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Speaker 10: Looking at Shamar, and Shamar making good eye contacts, staring

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Speaker 10: right back at Zach, and Zach is staring at Shamar.

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Speaker 10: They're staring at each other like a couple of love

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Speaker 10: sick teenagers. The future looks bright, Schamar's Stewart. The sky's

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Speaker 10: the limit.

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Speaker 3: Let's go. Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 11: We were talking earlier about why the communication of the

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Speaker 11: Bengals is there and why can't they tell us is

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Speaker 11: because I don't think they know.

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Speaker 12: I don't think they have a.

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Speaker 11: Clue because I remember a couple years ago during the draft,

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Speaker 11: you guys asked Duke Togan, who are you going to draft?

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Speaker 11: They said, we don't know yet. We don't know, we

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Speaker 11: don't have anyone specific. We just go about who's best

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Speaker 11: on the board. I think they just wing so when

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Speaker 11: they say about the contract, they probably.

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Speaker 9: Still don't know.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm I mean, if the contract's been signed, you

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Speaker 3: know what the contract is. And also, I don't know

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Speaker 3: that that's the best analogy. There's never going to tell

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Speaker 3: you who you're gonna draft. Every GM in the NFL

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Speaker 3: would answer that question the same way, But I think

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Speaker 3: there might be a little bit of truth to that,

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Speaker 3: as sad.

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Speaker 13: As that might be up guys the Cahuna in Kentucky.

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Speaker 13: So maybe I'm in the minority here, But I don't

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Speaker 13: know all.

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Speaker 3: The NFL rules.

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Speaker 13: But if the Bengals aren't doing anything against the rules,

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Speaker 13: like talking to the media disclosing contracts, if that's not

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Speaker 13: the rules that they have to do it, then why

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Speaker 13: are people the media and why are some of the

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Speaker 13: fans so tore up about not knowing? It ain't none

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Speaker 13: of our business. It's their team. They're the owners.

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Speaker 9: They can do what they want.

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Speaker 13: If you don't like it, go rout for Cleveland, Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know that there's there's anything

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Speaker 3: that says they have to disclose whether or not a

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Speaker 3: contract extension has been signed. No, there's not. They don't

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Speaker 3: have to, But after a report comes out, I think

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Speaker 3: it's strange to not really knowledge it.

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Speaker 2: That.

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Speaker 3: I just think is weird. And as far as I'm concerned,

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Speaker 3: I'm always in favor of transparency and truth seeking, and

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's enough of that. Hey, Audie TJ.

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Speaker 12: Marvin was asked to go five in the playoffs what

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Speaker 12: he was going to do different that year to prevent

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Speaker 12: another early exit, and true Marvin smugness, he says, We're

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Speaker 12: not going to do anything different. Why did I do that?

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Speaker 12: You know the results after that? Zach is in the

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Speaker 12: same comfortable and unaccountable position. Now I did some digging.

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Speaker 12: He's one of the lowest paid coaches in the league.

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Speaker 12: It doesn't matter if he's the right man, he's the

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Speaker 12: right price. This organization simply has bass act words priorities.

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Speaker 12: So let's start talking about how great next is going

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Speaker 12: to be?

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Speaker 3: Who day? Yeah. I also don't think Zach's money has

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Speaker 3: ever been officially out there, so that would be a

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Speaker 3: rumor in and of itself, but it's probably true and yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think one of my biggest issues with the Marvin

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Speaker 3: Lewis era was that, and you can equate this to

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Speaker 3: the Palmer thing as well, is that they would be

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Speaker 3: good enough to get to the playoffs every year, but

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Speaker 3: they would never go above and beyond in the off season.

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Speaker 3: We bitched and moaned about this forever. Is that there

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Speaker 3: was a lack of aggression in the off season in

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Speaker 3: free agency and trying to get people here. And it

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Speaker 3: was a stain on the organization. It was a stain

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Speaker 3: on Marvin Lewis, it was a stain on Mike Brown.

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Speaker 3: They have gotten better at that, but then you look

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Speaker 3: at an offseason like last year, where they chalked it

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Speaker 3: all up to bad luck. The off season last year

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Speaker 3: was similar to that of the Marvin Lewis era, which is,

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Speaker 3: we'll get a couple of low level guys, but we're

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Speaker 3: good enough to get back to the playoffs. Well, it

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Speaker 3: turns out you're not, and it's more than just bad luck.

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Speaker 3: You don't have the depth, you don't have the good enough,

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Speaker 3: you know, horses to lead this thing. So I think

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Speaker 3: you're right that sort of comfortability is not a good thing.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Zach is the same personality as

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Speaker 3: Marvin when it comes to that. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: I would equate those two if they did.

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Speaker 4: Like Big Brother, Iheartradios edition. Who do you think would weigh.

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Speaker 3: M that's a great question, Big Brother, I would like.

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Speaker 3: I like my odds personally. Who else would be good

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Speaker 3: at that? Around here? Mo would be great. I think

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Speaker 3: Stephan our president, would be wonderful at that. Scott Sloan

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Speaker 3: I would actually, I'd probably put I'd probably put Sloaney

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Speaker 3: as the favorite. I'd put Scott Sloan as the favorite there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: I want to give a shout out to Sandy and

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Speaker 14: Tracy too, die hard Bengals fans.

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Speaker 9: They bleed orange and black like suffering with the rest

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Speaker 9: of us.

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Speaker 14: Hell yeah, I like how Patinas said he didn't have

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Speaker 14: XAVI you're ready to play last night?

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Speaker 9: Well, you lose by forty five. I guess not. They

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Speaker 9: couldn't beat Wes Claremont last night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's true.

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Speaker 15: Austin a really good perspective on the Bengals there. I

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Speaker 15: actually feel better about the next season with looking at

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Speaker 15: the schedule and hoping that they will do what they

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Speaker 15: need to do finally to get this done, poor Joe

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Speaker 15: and the fans.

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Speaker 3: So whode go Big Blue and go rid. Thank you, Ken,

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Speaker 3: I'm glad that you appreciate that perspective. I'm not, I

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Speaker 3: will say, I'm not trying to make people feel better.

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to, Like, I get where you're coming from.

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Speaker 3: You have every reason, every reason imaginable, to be skeptical.

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Speaker 3: I get it, and I am too, because I, to

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Speaker 3: quote Marvin, I see better than I hear. But I'm

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Speaker 3: just trying to look at it and from a fifty

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Speaker 3: and what could be a potential path. And that's what

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Speaker 3: I came up with. And I might be wrong. I'm allowed.

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Speaker 3: Lord knows I've been wrong before, you know.

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Speaker 1: All I wish is that Mike Brown and the Bengals

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Speaker 1: would realize that they could just go all in, spend

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Speaker 1: a ton of money all at once, and just nail

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Speaker 1: this thing for the next couple of years, get ourselves

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Speaker 1: at parade, and then they could spend the next fifteen

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Speaker 1: years pinching pennies and going into miser mode and losing

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Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen seventeen games a year, and no one would

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Speaker 1: care because we had gotten our parade.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's it's a fair way to look

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Speaker 3: at it. I've on the flip side of that, you

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Speaker 3: could say, well, they did that in twenty twenty. They

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Speaker 3: spent all the way up to the cat basically and

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Speaker 3: they failed. And now what just to play Devil's advocate there,

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Speaker 3: But I agree with you. There's an old saying out there.

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Speaker 3: You gotta spend money to make money.

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Speaker 16: Hey guys, it's Duke Covin. I just want to let

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Speaker 16: you know we're working on an extension Gino Stone. Yeah,

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Speaker 16: he'll be our starting safety next year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be It would be a dark day

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Speaker 3: in Bengaledom as it's.

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Speaker 7: Known Austin Tony.

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Speaker 4: I wish I could sneak into the Bengals.

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Speaker 7: Stadium and put.

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Speaker 4: On the loud speaker the Black Sabbath song changes right

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Speaker 4: when Mike Brown is doing his walk in the mornings,

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Speaker 4: goes like, go with me changing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like that. I'm sure Mike would like.

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Speaker 3: imagine that. You imagine Mike cruising down seventy one listen

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Speaker 17: Hey, Patty, Patty here, I just want to say Merry Christmas,

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Speaker 17: Happy Holidays to everyone. Won't be able to listen next

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Speaker 17: Tony for entertaining us. So blessings to you all. Merry Christmas, well, thank.

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Speaker 3: You, Patty, and Merry Christmas to you and to your family.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the.

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Speaker 3: Schedule for next week, excuse me, Tony and I are

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Speaker 18: Hey, Jeffer Casey here talking about Zach's compensation if he

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Speaker 18: I would say that's probably accurate. It's probably based on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people would agree with you.

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Speaker 19: Shamar Stewart had a standout performance at the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: Inches, two hundred and eighty one pounds yeah, and.

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Speaker 19: Speed, notably forcing a stripsack against LSU tackle Emery Jones Junior.

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Speaker 19: His performance was so impressive that he withdrew from the

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Speaker 3: Thank you. We knew all that information about Schamar, but

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Speaker 15: Samar Stewart dominated practice.

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Speaker 3: since he three p sixty on the hold of the

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