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Speaker 4: world of sports. Speaking of across the world of sports, Austin,

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Speaker 4: we've got cy Young winners, cy Young Award winners.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it weird? How baseball just like random nights throughout

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Speaker 3: the week in November they're like, oh yeah, here's our

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Speaker 3: biggest awards. Sweeps it under the rug. They still haven't

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Speaker 3: announced MVP yet.

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Speaker 4: Everything they do is swept under the rug. Everything they

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Speaker 4: do is a is a backseat to whatever else is

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Speaker 3: Weird, how like they choose not to make it a

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Speaker 4: Yes, why wouldn't you want to highlight that? Why wouldn't

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Speaker 4: you want to highlight the best of your sport on

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Speaker 4: their own night?

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Speaker 3: Correct, It's just weird. It's very strange. I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: But congratulations to Terrek school ball and uh, but what's

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Speaker 3: his name Paul. Yes, I almost said Pat Mahomes, Paul Skans,

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Speaker 3: and Trek schooball back to back winners school ball is Yeah,

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Speaker 3: now skiings Austin. They made it a big deal because

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Speaker 3: you know, his reaction previously wasn't that great. Much different

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Speaker 3: I mean, congrats to Paul Skeins. He he dominated with

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Speaker 3: thirty first place votes. It was one I mean, it

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Speaker 3: was an absolute no brainer. Andrew Abbot got a couple

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Speaker 4: Andrew Abbott did get a couple vote votes. He got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, got a fourth place vote, a two fifth place votes,

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Speaker 3: which you know, I didn't realize this until today. But like,

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Speaker 3: you get bonuses, like from the Players Association, if I'm

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Speaker 3: not mistaken, if you finish in a certain spot in

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Speaker 3: those awards. So Paul Sken's got an extra two point

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Speaker 3: five mil for winning the cy Young if you finish fourth,

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Speaker 3: you get an extra million dollars. So Andrew Abbott narrowly

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Speaker 3: cool that they reared them with a little extra cash

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Speaker 3: if you win those awards.

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Speaker 4: Didn't mention the Manager Managers of the Year though Steven

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Speaker 4: Vote for the Cleveland Guardians won it. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 4: in the National League Pat Murphy of the Milwaukee Brewers.

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Speaker 3: Both of those guys won it last year too. How

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Speaker 3: Did they do win a playoff game? Do Brewers fans

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Speaker 4: It is, but I'm I'm so with you in the

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Speaker 3: Giving away their awards.

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Speaker 4: Make it a big deal, like you, Everything about the

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Speaker 4: it feel like it's a monumental thing instead, Like we've

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Speaker 4: just it's tucked away on a random day where games

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Speaker 4: same time baseball does none of that is said. How

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Speaker 4: many how many random sports fans often probably even know

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm pretty plugged in and I didn't even

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Speaker 3: saw it on Instagram last night. Yeah, it's just it's

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Speaker 3: it's just it's it's very strange to me how there

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you're gonna get that, But can

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Speaker 4: If you're baseball, just imagine if you could get in

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Speaker 4: People would want to watch that because you never get

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they have started to do that

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Speaker 3: He was like on he was live from the Reds

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Speaker 3: do it in Cooperstown every year wherever. I don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it is. Uh. Baseball does a lot of things that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I said, I think it's a miss, but

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Speaker 3: At this point, I thought Paul Skeen said some pretty

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Speaker 3: cool stuff last night about being a pirate and all that.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to get into this really quickly? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So he was asked about you know, there was a

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Speaker 3: asked about that and asked about, you know, the Pirates

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Speaker 3: It's not like Chicago or Saint Louis. If you want fans,

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Speaker 3: good for them for doing so. But I appreciate that

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Speaker 3: Paul has now multiple times put some pressure on the

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Speaker 4: I think it at the most, I think the word

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Speaker 4: Some NFL news that's about the wide receiver position. Antonio

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Speaker 4: and attempted murder trial. Keep an eye on that. And

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Speaker 4: then what do you make, if anything, about what's going

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Speaker 4: I think he was playing like Madden or a video

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Speaker 4: game online and essentially told people like, if you've got

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Speaker 4: me in Fantasy, don't play me anymore. Essentially he's talking

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Speaker 4: And what I what I appreciate about AJ Brown, He's

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Speaker 3: It's who we are. I think I can talk about it.

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Speaker 4: on Sunday. What do we got today, Well, we got

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Speaker 4: a few different ones. Let's start with the quarterback, Aaron Rodgers. Hey, Rod,

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, Tony has not passed for more than three

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Speaker 4: Austin what he he had two forty nine against the Bengals,

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Speaker 4: he has not eclipsed two fifty at all this year.

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Speaker 4: In the opener against the Jets, he had two hundred

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Speaker 4: at the same time, he's throwing the ball thirty thirty three,

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the other thing with Rogers in that

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Speaker 4: I also one more on Rogers, sure, I also find

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Speaker 4: He's been sacked three times in each game. So nine

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers has been sacked. Do you remember Austin It

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Speaker 4: like that looked like thirty year old Aaron Rodgers, not

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Speaker 4: You can't allow him to do that again going forward.

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Speaker 4: The Bengals defense has struggled with tackling this season, missing

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Speaker 4: one hundred and nine tackles and allowing seven hundred and

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. Most of that stems from poor execution

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Speaker 4: But what I think is most interesting on average, when

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Speaker 4: you can't operate. You can operate in that sense. Again,

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Speaker 3: Well, to continue on to that point, sixty eight point

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Speaker 3: uhh DK metcalf three hundred and five and Jalen Warren

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Speaker 4: You said sixty two and a half of their passing

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Speaker 3: The last time these two teams met, the Steelers were

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Speaker 3: picked them apart. T Higgins has caught fourteen of twenty

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Speaker 3: He has averaged fourteen point six air yards per target

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Speaker 4: Some thing's gotta give. Like they can't do what they

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Speaker 4: That to me is the most interesting part. We talked

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Speaker 4: There's no way you rewatch the tape and see Joe

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Speaker 4: Flackill pump at twenty three times to Jamar Chase and

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Speaker 4: and come back out and say, yes, man, coverage makes

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Speaker 4: the most sense. I just don't see them doing that.

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Speaker 4: And the only way I would see them doing that

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Speaker 4: is if their front four were better than what we've seen.

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Speaker 4: They're not as dominant on their defensive front as I

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Speaker 4: think A lot of people thought they would be, which

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Speaker 4: makes it harder to play man because you just covering

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Speaker 4: for a longer amount of time.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about that. Number One makes me think

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Speaker 3: maybe Zach Taylor dial up a shot first play and

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Speaker 3: just see what Pittsburgh's thinking. The Steelers defense has generated

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Speaker 3: quick pressure under two and a half seconds on seventeen

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Speaker 3: point four percent of opponent dropbacks this season. That's the

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Speaker 3: fifth highest rate in the NFL. They've averaged a two

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Speaker 3: point five to three second time to pressure, the quickest

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Speaker 3: in the NFL. Nick Herbig has fifteen. TJ. Watt has fourteen,

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Speaker 3: that's ninth and twelfth most in the NFL. They lead

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Speaker 3: the team in quick pressures, standing as the only Steelers

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Speaker 3: defenders with ten or more quick pressures this season. That's

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Speaker 3: what I was gonna go.

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Speaker 4: It's just not as balanced along the line as it

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Speaker 4: has been in years past, and not with TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt. TJ.

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Speaker 4: Watt's still a great player. I don't think TJ. Watts

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Speaker 4: has a big answer for double teams right now. He's

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Speaker 4: just not been as big of a factor. They did

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Speaker 4: get to Joe Flacco twice in that previous win for

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Speaker 4: the Bengals. But to me, Austin, it didn't feel like

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Speaker 4: Flacco was just under a barrage of pressure the whole game.

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Speaker 4: It felt like the running game and the quick game

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Speaker 4: alleviated a little bit a little bit of that from

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Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm a little surprised that their fifth

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Speaker 4: highest in the NFL at that quick pressure rate because

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Speaker 4: the first go around with the Bengals, and again credit

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Speaker 4: Chase Brown, credit Joe Flacco and the ability to get

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Speaker 4: it out quick. I just didn't see that being a

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Speaker 4: thing for them. Now if they were to go zone now,

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Speaker 4: maybe Jamar, Chase and T Higgins don't break free as quick.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that does allow that defense of the Steelers to

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Speaker 4: generate some quicker pressures.

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Speaker 3: A couple more, Let's go with TJ. Watt. TJ. Watt

473
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Speaker 3: needs one sack to pass his brother JJ's NFL career

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Speaker 3: sack total of one hundred and fourteen and a half.

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Speaker 3: Both Watt brothers had exactly eleven and a half sacks

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Speaker 3: in college at Wisconsin, with TJ at one hundred and

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Speaker 3: fourteen NFL's sacks and JJ at one hundred and fourteen

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Speaker 3: and a half.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that first go round TJ. Watt one hit on

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Speaker 4: the quarterback, a half sack, and one total tackle in

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Speaker 4: the game. He was essentially nonexistent in that first go round.

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 4: He's got six sacks this year, so it's not a

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Speaker 4: terrible terrible number, but if you look at what he's

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Speaker 4: on pace to do each of the last couple of years,

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's had a twenty two and a half

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Speaker 4: sack year, he's had a nineteen sack year, he's had

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Speaker 4: fourteen and a half, fifteen thirteen. He's just not as dominant.

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Speaker 4: Only thirty seven tackles to this point, fifteen of those solo,

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Speaker 4: which is well below what he averaged each of the

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Speaker 4: last couple of years. You hit on this earlier in

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Speaker 4: the week, Austin. It is why the Bengals, and rightfully so,

493
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Speaker 4: were hesitant in dishing out that type of money to

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Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson, because at some point, and TJ. Wat's thirty

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Speaker 4: one years old, at some point, the production is going

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Speaker 4: to drop, and it feels like it's dropping little bit

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Speaker 4: for TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt. Jamar Chase has six and fifty six receiving yards

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Speaker 3: this year in his career so far, that's the sixth

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Speaker 3: most receiving yards by a player in their first five

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Speaker 3: career seasons in NFL history. Chase needs one hundred and

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Speaker 3: nine receiving yards to pass Jerry Rice for the fourth

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Speaker 3: most in his first five seasons. The top three justin Jefferson,

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Speaker 3: Tory Holt, and Randy Moss. Wow.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if we're talking about first five seasons and

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Speaker 4: he's got a legitimate chance to move significantly up that list.

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Speaker 3: He's pretty close to be in a Hall of Famer already. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Crazy is it can be crazy? Two more years of this,

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Speaker 3: he'll be in camp.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And again that's through the first five seasons. So

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Speaker 4: he still got what how many games left this year? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean a lot of opportunities to climb on that list.

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Speaker 4: He might get the one hundred nine on Sunday, Let's

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Speaker 4: be honest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he could. And here's why. How about this last one.

516
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Speaker 3: The Bengals have allowed thirty or more points five times

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Speaker 3: in regulation this season. That's, as you may have guessed,

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Speaker 3: the most in the National Football League. They are one

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Speaker 3: in four in those five games. The Steelers defense has

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Speaker 3: allowed thirty or more points four times, tied for the

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Speaker 3: second most in the NFL this season. The teams previously

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Speaker 3: combined for sixty four points when they faced each other

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Speaker 3: in Week seven.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's the least surprising stat we've done on read

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Speaker 4: and React to that this defense stinks.

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Speaker 3: They're bad.

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Speaker 4: We've talked that they're not just league bad, they are

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Speaker 4: historically bad, tracking to be one of, if not the

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Speaker 4: worst defense in the history of the NFL. I can't imagine, Austin,

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Speaker 4: how demoralizing it would be on Monday if we're talking

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Speaker 4: about a Bengals loss when they score over thirty points

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Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh. Oh, can you imagine? Because coming out of

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Speaker 4: the by there is some momentum here. We talked about

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Speaker 4: Zach Taylor's career numbers on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 4: and I know much of that was with Luena Rumo

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Speaker 4: starting in week ten and on during his tenure. We've

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Speaker 4: talked about the ability to go into a buy and

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Speaker 4: self scout and correct the things you've needed to do.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine? And on top of all that, Joe

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Speaker 4: Burrow is back practicing. Can you imagine the gut punch

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Speaker 4: it would be to go to Pittsburgh, put over thirty

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Speaker 4: on the board and still lose the game. How could

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Speaker 4: you bounce back from that. I don't think you could.

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Speaker 4: I honestly don't think you could. You want to keep scoring,

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Speaker 4: but if the defense comes out and allows this Pittsburgh

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Speaker 4: Steeler offense to go over thirty again, I don't see

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Speaker 4: one how you win the game, and two I don't

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Speaker 4: see how the locker room doesn't fracture. Do you remember

549
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Speaker 4: Austin what happened after the Bears game? Remember Jamar Chase?

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Speaker 3: I do? Remember Chase? I do?

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Speaker 4: And the bye week I think helped a little bit

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Speaker 4: of that, because why players get away, settle it down,

553
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Speaker 4: settle everything down, defensive players not speaking, then coming in

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Speaker 4: the next day and talking. The bye week helped a

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Speaker 4: lot of that. If you pick right back up and

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Speaker 4: you lose a game thirty six thirty three, it is

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Speaker 4: going to be madness in that locker room, madness going

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Speaker 4: forward for the Cincinnati Bengals, Read and React is done.

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Speaker 3: Read and react, Lartis. We're supposed to be getting some

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Speaker 3: audio for that sake.

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Speaker 4: Clardis five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty. Give

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Speaker 4: us a call, let's do it. We'll continue on our

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Speaker 4: number one. John Shearon to kick off our number two

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Speaker 4: on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 7: Hey, it's Moagger. Join me this afternoon starting at three

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Speaker 7: h five on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 8: I'm doing what Mark Chase plays here ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 9: Here's holiday.

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Speaker 10: I'm the center of Pastor Mario Satan Sir Tomahawk, right

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Speaker 10: hander bringing the heat in New Orleans.

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Speaker 3: Chris plays set up. Man, I took your brother away?

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Speaker 11: It did?

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Speaker 3: Pelicans still have a team one more time.

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Speaker 6: Hey, I'm the center of Pastor Mario.

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Speaker 3: Dude was in the air for a while. Man, that

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Speaker 3: was I believe Manduel Sports Network up there in Portland

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Speaker 3: for the Trail Blazers.

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Speaker 4: Shadon Sharp had thirty five. The Pelicans are two and nine.

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Speaker 4: I think Zion's heart again or something. That's what a

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Speaker 4: disaster that's been.

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Speaker 3: Did I see former Kentucky Wildcat Boogie Cousins say that

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Speaker 3: you just need to move out of New Orleans. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's all it takes said. There's no fans, players don't

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Speaker 3: want to play there. Organization hasn't done very good. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if I agree with them. I don't know

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Speaker 3: anything about New World. They've not done very well at all.

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Speaker 3: When Boogie speaks, I think we all tend to listen.

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Speaker 4: Mavericks lost again as well, even without Nico Thunder continue

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Speaker 4: to win their twelve and one on the season either way,

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Speaker 4: Bulls fall Dude, Pistons without Kay Cunningham, which did open

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Speaker 4: up about forty five shot attempts for the rest of

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Speaker 4: the Pistons and maybe that help. Pistons are ten and two.

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Speaker 4: Bulls are six and five. Trouble for the Knicks last

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Speaker 4: night as well. They lose, and then Jalen Brunson, after

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Speaker 4: rolling his ankles seen leaving the facility on crutches. Ooh,

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Speaker 4: something to watch out for there.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Falcons offense or excuse me, Falcons. I

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Speaker 3: was thinking of Arthur Smith. I still think of the Falcons,

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Speaker 3: the former head coach of the Falcons. Steelers offensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: Arthur Smith was asked about Aaron Rodgers' performance last Sunday. Quote,

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Speaker 3: it's all of us. It's a collective effort. It's never

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Speaker 3: on one person. I put it on myself. Not the

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Speaker 3: result you wanted, but you get a chance to come

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Speaker 3: back and we got to play well. How about Steelers

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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator Tarrell Austin. He says new cornerback Sante Samuel

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Speaker 3: Junior is working exclusively at outside corner right now. The

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Speaker 3: timetable on his inclusion in games is TBD. Oh something

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Speaker 3: to watch for. I just I can't help but think

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Speaker 3: of Tarrell Austin and think back to a game in

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Speaker 3: twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen when he was a defensive

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Speaker 3: coordinator for the Bengals and the Saints came in with

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Speaker 3: Drew Brees and they scored on every single offensive possession.

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Speaker 3: It was fifty two to seventeen I think the final

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Speaker 3: score was. And if I'm not mistaken, Tarrell Austin got

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Speaker 3: fired the next day and Marvin Lewis started calling the

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Speaker 3: Blaze again. Wow, that's that's all I think about when

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Speaker 3: I think of Tarrell Austin. Man, you think he ever

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Speaker 3: stretched with the defense? I don't think so. I can't

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Speaker 3: wait to see what this defense looks like with an

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Speaker 3: Al Golden stretching out. Now Golden should wear a helmet

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Speaker 3: on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how about this? This is yesterday. Now we'll get

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Speaker 4: updated today on injury reports as well. Flacco did not

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Speaker 4: practice with the shoulder. Trey Hendrickson now not only the hip,

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Speaker 4: They've added pelvis to the injury designation for Trey Hendricksons

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Speaker 4: hip and pelvis injury. Did not practice.

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Speaker 3: Sam A J. P Run pulvis injury.

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Speaker 4: No, he did not practice, and Shamar Stewart with the

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Speaker 4: knee did not practice as well. Pittsburgh yesterday, John Neusmith, TJ. Watt,

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Speaker 4: cam Heyward all did not practice. That was all non

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Speaker 4: injury related. Just for Rest now. Alex high Smith, their linebacker,

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Speaker 4: did not practice with the pectoral injury. Cole Holcomb, another linebacker,

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Speaker 4: did not practice due to illness. Corey Trice and Darius

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Speaker 4: Slay both did not practice. Trice with a hamstring and

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Speaker 4: Darius Slay because of the concussion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that secondary is they're just trying to

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Speaker 3: figure it out. Right now, we think they're just trying

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Speaker 3: to piece it together, which makes me wonder to go

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Speaker 3: back to our point, if you have guys that you

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Speaker 3: know you're not all that confident in, Like if if

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Speaker 3: you're pulling up Asante Samuel off the practice squad, or

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Speaker 3: Darius Slay can't go, or you got dudes that have

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Speaker 3: been coming off the the injured reserve list to play.

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Speaker 3: Are you gonna put them one on one against Tan

647
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: Jamar better not. You wouldn't do that, right or not.

648
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 3: That's unfair to those people. It's unfair to most people,

649
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 3: even the good corners in the NFL, to do that. Yeah,

650
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 3: I just can't imagine Mike Tomlin and his staff look

651
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 3: at the film from this last time these two teams

652
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 3: played and said, Yeah, we're gonna stick to this strategy.

653
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: So I hope the Bengals are ready for something different.

654
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 4: They have to be, like, you have to go into

655
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 4: this game expecting you're gonna see some zone, right.

656
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: Omar Flacco said yesterday that he has seen coverages against

657
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: t and Jamar that he's never really seen eighteen years

658
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: in the NFL. YEP, that's kind of amazing and speaks

659
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: to how good those dudes are. That is. It is

660
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 3: remarkable to think about that that.

661
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 4: Has been a thing and that he's been around this

662
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 4: long and you don't have it yet or he just

663
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 4: hasn't seen it yet. And I think it goes to

664
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Speaker 4: show just how defenses are trying anything they possibly can

665
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 4: to make it work against this Bengals offense.

666
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Speaker 3: I think it's going to be interesting to see how

667
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: the Bengals use Chase Brown. He was so good that

668
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: first time round against Pittsburgh, kind of stifled that pass rush,

669
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Speaker 3: opened up some of those passing concepts that the Bengals used.

670
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Speaker 3: Can he do that? And also can he be a

671
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: weapon in the past game. We haven't seen him like

672
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 3: explode in the past game yet. And I wonder, you

673
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: know what if there's some moments where the are in

674
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: shotgun or they're under center, doesn't matter, and then they

675
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: motion Chase Brown out. Yeah, he goes out to the slot,

676
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 3: he goes out at the edge of the formation. Maybe

677
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 3: he's one on one with the linebacker. I'm gonna bet

678
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: on Chase Brown most of the time.

679
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 4: I would too, And I think there's been times there's

680
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 4: been one or two drops that feels like from Chase

681
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 4: Brown where if he makes a catch, he's gonna score correct. Yeah,

682
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 4: But I do like how how they've used him in

683
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 4: the passing games as well. I think that's just a

684
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 4: I think that's a new addition to this offense. I

685
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 4: think it's another wrinkle. Of course, you know, you go

686
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 4: back to that Bears game, then't the Bears game feel

687
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 4: like months ago? It does? You go back to that

688
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 4: Bears game second half, Mitchell Tinsley met a huge grab,

689
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 4: Noah Fant made a big play, andre Yoshi Vash had

690
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 4: multiple big plays. Like offensively that they were in a bag.

691
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 4: When you're hitting that many different receivers and kind of

692
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 4: what you want, you feel good about where you're at.

693
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Speaker 4: It's just can they get one or two extra stops

694
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Speaker 4: a game? I think that's what it comes down to.

695
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Speaker 4: Let's talk about another football game happening this weekend. The

696
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 4: Bearcats play Saturday against Arizona. We'll talk about that and

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Speaker 4: always Skyline time. We're happy to have you along. We

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Speaker 4: fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Give us a call, would love to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: I got questions, okay about the Cincinnati Bearcats, all right,

713
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 4: and I don't know if they get answered until Saturday.

714
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 4: I want to know this team's makeup and if it's

715
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 4: different than it was last year. By far, the question

716
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 4: I've received the most from the Utah loss to now

717
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 4: is is it going to be the same issue that

718
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 4: plagued this team last year? Is it going to be

719
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: the same thing for this team where they started five

720
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 4: and two and then didn't win another game? Now this

721
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 4: season has felt different. This season has provided I think

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00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 4: more stability in the UC offense in particular. Last year

723
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: sores be down the stretch, just the confidence wasn't there.

724
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Speaker 4: But for this team, what I want to know is

725
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Speaker 4: it different Because the wins they've had at Kansas was

726
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 4: a good win against Iowa State. You got Iowa State

727
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Speaker 4: in a moment where they weren't at full strength, they

728
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 4: were playing shorthanded, and you did find a way to

729
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 4: win at home, but at times felt tense down the stretch.

730
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Speaker 4: Outside of Kansas and Iowa State, they beat UCF, Oklahoma State,

731
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Speaker 4: and Baylor, who just aren't very good this year. The

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Speaker 4: two best teams they've played, in my opinion on Nebraska

733
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Speaker 4: and Utah, and they fell short in both of those

734
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Speaker 4: games I've watched now this week enough of Arizona. We

735
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 4: talked to Dan Hord about Arizona yesterday Austin. I think

736
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Speaker 4: Arizona might be the third best team they've played. Arizona again,

737
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Speaker 4: for what it's worth, they have a win over Kansas State,

738
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Speaker 4: they have a win over Oklahoma State Colorado, and they

739
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 4: did beat Kansas just as the Bearcats did, and they

740
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 4: held a very potent Kansas offense to just twenty points.

741
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 4: Their losses thirty one to twenty eight on the road

742
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Speaker 4: at Houston. Houston, by the way, is eight and two overall,

743
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 4: five and two in the league. They lost at Iowa State,

744
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 4: their worst game of the year, and then they played

745
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 4: BYU at home, and they led BYU.

746
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Speaker 3: I double digits.

747
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Speaker 4: They at one point, I believe, in the fourth quarter,

748
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: and I'm confirming right now, there was a point in

749
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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter where Arizona took a twenty four to

750
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 4: fourteen lead. After that, B why you rallied, B why

751
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 4: you tied it, and then B why you eventually wins

752
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 4: it in overtime. Arizona's been good, man. They have a

753
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 4: good quarterback, and they have a good defense. And in

754
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 4: coming off your worst performance of the year offensively in

755
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 4: which you turn the ball over on the nineteen yard

756
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 4: line you through an interception, Swersby never never really got

757
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 4: going in the Utah game. If you look back, Brendan

758
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 4: Sorsby I believe completed thirty three percent of his passes

759
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 4: thirty three percent, eleven of thirty three for two twenty

760
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 4: one with a touchdown and an interception, and of those

761
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 4: two hundred and twenty one yards, much like the friar

762
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 4: Mouth touchdown with Aaron Rodgers Austin, they had Cyrus Allen

763
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 4: for an eighty eight yard touchdown. You take away that

764
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 4: one place. That is a very very poor stat line,

765
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 4: and it still was for Swersby based on who he's been.

766
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 4: The good news for UC they still ran it for

767
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 4: seven yards per carry, but they just didn't get much

768
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 4: going in the passing game. Joe Royer was targeted once,

769
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 4: only made one catch, Noah Jennings, Caleb Goodie, Jeff Cadwell

770
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 4: were all relatively quiet. They played the game without Evan

771
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 4: Pryor'd be interested to see if they can get back

772
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 4: him back to full strength. But it was a comedy

773
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 4: of airs. Offense was inconsistent, defense could not get the

774
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 4: stops when necessary, and a special teams unit who had

775
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 4: been a strength, Stephen Russknack missed his first field goal

776
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: of the year and Max Fletcher gave up one big

777
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Speaker 4: return and then a return for a touchdown on back

778
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Speaker 4: to back punts. So the big news, the big thing

779
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 4: to look for here Austin. Do they look more like

780
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 4: the team that lost the last five down the stretch

781
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 4: last year after a loss or are they a team

782
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 4: that has a different makeup and a team that answers

783
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 4: the bell from a disappointing loss and then moves forward

784
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: that to me, not only do I think that defines Saturday,

785
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 4: I think that defines the rest of the year because

786
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Speaker 4: if they answer the bell, can you imagine the build

787
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Speaker 4: up next week with BYU coming in town, Austin and

788
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 4: what that means and the possibility if you got two

789
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 4: games left, one at home, one on the road, and

790
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 4: if you win both, you're playing for a Big twelve

791
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 4: title in Dallas. Or you lose to Arizona, wheels feel

792
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 4: like they're falling off a little bit. BYU comes into

793
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 4: town and then you've got to go to TCU. You've

794
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 4: built up such a good season, you're in the College

795
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: Football Playoff rankings at number twenty five. You can't let

796
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 4: that fall apart. You can't let that crumble because you've

797
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 4: worked so hard to build where you're at. Dante Corleone's health,

798
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 4: Jake golday, Evan pryor the health of this team and

799
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 4: their key players is extremely important. But Austin, we're either

800
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Speaker 4: spending time next week talking about a huge matchup at

801
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 4: Nippert Stadium, or we're having the conversation of potentially, oh,

802
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 4: it feels like here we go again and all that

803
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 4: is up for Grams on Saturday at noon in Knippert Stadium.

804
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 4: Should be a great contest, should be a great crowd.

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00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 4: I'm looking here, Austin. We get every morning, we get

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00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 4: a WCPO nine First Warning Forecast presented by Jennifer Ketchmark

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Speaker 4: kind of left on the desk in here. Listen to

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00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 4: this for Saturday. Yeah, partly cloudy, not getting as cold,

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00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 4: low of forty nine. I'm sorry, that's that's never of mine.

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00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 4: Nu's for Friday night, dude. Read the forecast correctly.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you see football game day. It's a warm wedge.

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Speaker 3: What did you just say? Warm wedge? That's what's listed

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Speaker 3: on here.

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Speaker 4: Mostly cloudy and isolated showers possible, but it won't be

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Speaker 4: much cooler. Following week is cooler. Saturday's high Austin. This

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Speaker 4: is a noon kickoff.

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Speaker 3: You gotta work on these forecast reads.

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00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 4: Saturday's high sixty nine degrees. Yeah, can't ask for anything more. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I saw it's like eighty one in Lexington today. Yea

820
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 4: seventy one in Columbus and it's like fifty five here.

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Speaker 3: How's that work? We're in the Elmo. I don't need

822
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 3: the weather people. It's an Alberta clipper. The Northeaster's coming down, dude,

823
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Speaker 3: speaking of northeaster tonight, speaking to northeaster tonight, Thursday night

824
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Speaker 3: football the Jets and the Patriots. The Patriots are wearing

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Speaker 3: their rivalry edition Northeaster.

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Speaker 14: You.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, how about that.

828
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Speaker 4: Did you get a chance to see like the Northern

829
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Speaker 4: lights or anything in the last couple nights.

830
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Speaker 3: Uh no, that was the thing. I know it back

831
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Speaker 3: where I'm from in Sydney, they were crazy. Que I

832
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: live here now that's a little too bright for me

833
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 3: to see it. Okay, man, lights is too bright? Oh man,

834
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Speaker 3: my future so braga where shades? You know who else's

835
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 3: future is bright? John Shearon he's a star. I mean

836
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 3: once he started coming up on this show. It's just

837
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 3: he's a star. Moon man him An Armstrong.

838
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Speaker 4: He'll join us next for me Adas Sports Neil John

839
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Speaker 4: Shearon definitely not Lance Armstrong. Number two on ESPN fifteen.

840
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: Lance Armstrong and Sharon Moore have in common.

841
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 3: I don't know Lance Armstrong beat Michigan or beat Ohio

842
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: State too. They both cheated. Wow, unbelievable. Write that one down.

843
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 3: What an accusation? Accusation? Oh okay, we gotta talk, No,

844
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 3: we gotta talk about this. This is driving me insane.

845
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 3: Number one, you are a freaking psychopath. With the amount

846
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: of alarms you have set on your phone, I got

847
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 3: a lot like it's ridiculous how often your alarm goes

848
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: off and you have changed it. It used to be

849
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: this little diddy. You know.

850
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 4: Here's what I do at different times throughout the day,

851
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 4: Like a lot of people will write notes to themselves

852
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 4: if they think of something that I know, there's time.

853
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: You have an iPhone and there's a great app on

854
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 3: it called reminders that will not make remind you every

855
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 3: time you open your phone.

856
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 4: When I when I have a reminder to myself, I

857
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 4: set it for a sense, like normally at twelve fifty nine,

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Speaker 4: we're in the middle of a break to go to

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Speaker 4: the next hour. Yeah, and there's stuff that I want

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Speaker 4: to accomplish over the break or need to do that

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Speaker 4: next hour. That's my way of telling myself, that's what

862
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Speaker 4: just happened. Like, what what is on there that you

863
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Speaker 4: had to be reminded of it? Twelve fifty nine, Well,

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Speaker 4: right now, I wrote down commissions exclamation point where are they?

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Speaker 4: John Shearon with us right now.

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Speaker 3: John's going on, fellas doing all right?

885
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Speaker 9: Had a nice refreshing weekend of no football of any

886
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Speaker 9: kind except very leisurely watching, giving pleasures. So good to

887
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Speaker 9: be back.

888
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 3: Wait you you barely watched any football at all?

889
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 9: It was it was it was here there, you know.

890
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 9: I caught some copts, some good moments, caught some bad

891
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 9: moments that made me like, oh yeah, I remember what

892
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 9: that looks like.

893
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 3: And now now we're back. What's back? What did you

894
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 3: do with your time? Were you doing yard work? Were

895
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Speaker 3: your crafts?

896
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Speaker 6: Like?

897
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Speaker 3: What were you doing hanging out with your family? What's

898
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Speaker 3: going on?

899
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Speaker 9: Absolutely nothing beautiful about it?

900
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Speaker 4: H what uh, what do you make John, Let's get

901
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 4: to them. Let's dive right into the heart of this

902
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Speaker 4: right now. Al Golden was stretching yesterday with the team.

903
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Speaker 4: Do you think this is something that they may be

904
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Speaker 4: self scattered during the by Do you think this can

905
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Speaker 4: translate to better defensive play?

906
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Speaker 9: Hey, any any additional help that they can find on

907
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 9: the ability, you might as well go for it. Right

908
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 9: that that suffs cute to see in August, and it's

909
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 9: kind of annoying to see November a little bit. I

910
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Speaker 9: said this yesterday, But yeah, yeah, I don't know what

911
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 9: they're trying to do to galvanize this group of players

912
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 9: that clearly there's not a lot of faith in. But

913
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Speaker 9: they got to try something. I don't know if that

914
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Speaker 9: means put the defensive corner out there in paths or

915
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Speaker 9: anything like that. But no, like right now, we haven't

916
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Speaker 9: seen probably as many adjustments as you would like to

917
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 9: see for a defense that is historically bad. And that's

918
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Speaker 9: what the Bible is a boutand about self reflection. It's

919
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 9: about recognizing who you have, who probably needs to play

920
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 9: a little bit more, who needs to play a little

921
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Speaker 9: bit less. Injuries are probably going to force their hand

922
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 9: in some regards to them in terms of swapping guys

923
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Speaker 9: in and out. But right now, their problems in week

924
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 9: ten are very similar to their problems in week three,

925
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Speaker 9: and without any new additional answers coming to the door.

926
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Speaker 9: It's just about self reflection about what you can do

927
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Speaker 9: differently and who you can play more or who can.

928
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Speaker 4: Play less, knowing not knowing no one else is coming

929
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Speaker 4: through this door. How can they how can they get

930
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Speaker 4: tangibly better now? How can this defense coming out of

931
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Speaker 4: a bye be better than what they've been through the

932
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Speaker 4: majority of this season.

933
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Speaker 9: I think it starts with the linebackers trying to slow

934
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Speaker 9: things down a little bit with what's in front of them,

935
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Speaker 9: because right now they're taking bad angles, and bad angles

936
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Speaker 9: leads to miss tackles, and miss tackles lead to these

937
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Speaker 9: explosive plays. Just trying to get the situation under control

938
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Speaker 9: in which you can have second and longs, third and

939
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Speaker 9: manageables for defense and how bad effects what the play

940
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Speaker 9: calling could be from Al Golden's perspective, because when you're

941
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Speaker 9: just going from first down the second and short to

942
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Speaker 9: first down, et cetera, et cetera, it limits you as

943
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Speaker 9: far as far as which what you can do schematically,

944
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Speaker 9: So it's just about guys just knowing where to be

945
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Speaker 9: and reading their keys and reading their fits and then

946
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Speaker 9: actually making the play when it comes to them, and

947
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Speaker 9: obviously having a better pass rush can help with that

948
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Speaker 9: when you're dealing with dropback situations. I think the secondary

949
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Speaker 9: has done okay relatively the rest of the defense, aside

950
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Speaker 9: from some obvious miscues from the safeties and everything like that,

951
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Speaker 9: But it's just about very simple, correctible mistakes that need

952
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Speaker 9: to be ironed out and hopefully with some reflection and

953
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Speaker 9: some time off that can happen.

954
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Speaker 3: Now, you wrote about Cedric Johnson, who got his first

955
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Speaker 3: game action a week or so ago prior to the

956
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Speaker 3: bye week. I've been a big fan of his, especially

957
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Speaker 3: the way he ended last season. What did you see

958
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Speaker 3: from him that in your mind warrants more Cedric Johnson

959
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Speaker 3: on the field against Pittsburgh.

960
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 9: I think he just kind of shows up whenever he's

961
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 9: called upon, and there's not incredibly noticeable production, but there's

962
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Speaker 9: there's some flashes here and there, like, Yeah, you would

963
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Speaker 9: like to see if a larger sample size can translate

964
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Speaker 9: into the production that they need more of. I think

965
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Speaker 9: from an athletic perspective, he's a little bit on the

966
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Speaker 9: shorter and the stock of your side, but there's a

967
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Speaker 9: lot of explosion and burst that comes with that. So

968
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Speaker 9: I think he can get under the pads of offensive

969
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 9: tackles a little bit easier compared to the likes of

970
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Speaker 9: Shamar Stewart and Miles Murphy, in which leverage has always

971
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 9: been kind of an issue with those guys. But there's first,

972
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Speaker 9: there's speed around the edge, there's power, and I think

973
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 9: that has translated to some quick wins, or at least

974
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 9: quicker than what we've seen from his contemporaries.

975
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Speaker 6: Right.

976
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 9: So, Trey Henderson going to be out this week with

977
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 9: his hip injury, Shamar Stewart is now week to week

978
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 9: with the knee injury. He needs three pass issues that

979
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 9: you can rotate it. And now at the defensive end spot,

980
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 9: we know Miles Murphy and Joseph SSI are going to

981
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Speaker 9: be handling the line share of that. I think it's

982
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 9: Edric Johnson. It's time to be number three in that

983
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 9: rotation to see what he can do with a larger

984
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 9: sample sizing, with a larger opportunity in a larger role.

985
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 9: If he only played eight three snaps last year as

986
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 9: a rookie. He played sixteen snaps last week and got

987
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 9: three pressures against the Bears. I know that another one

988
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 9: really noticed that because of how the game was going

989
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 9: from a totality standpoint, But I think if you give

990
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 9: him a little bit more opportunity just to see what

991
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 9: he can do, just because he's a draft pick from

992
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 9: last year, you need to see as many of these

993
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 9: guys play as possible to see who's worth keeping around

994
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 9: in twenty twenty six going four. So I think this

995
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 9: is a good week to see what Edric Johnson can do.

996
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 4: The Joe Burrow news I think shocked everyone this week,

997
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 4: thinking there was a remote possibility that late in the season,

998
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 4: maybe Miami, maybe Arizona, that he would be able, but

999
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 4: you wanted at that point in time, would it even

1000
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 4: make sense to come back if you're Joe Burrow now

1001
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 4: that timeline has been significantly changed, are you in the

1002
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 4: camp of when he's ready to go, you're throwing him

1003
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 4: out there, or are you waiting to see what happens

1004
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 4: this week, maybe next week, and then make a decision

1005
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 4: off of that.

1006
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 9: So I'll have a job on the line here, So

1007
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 9: naturally my perspective is going to be different than the

1008
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 9: people in the building. I would imagine it's as simple

1009
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 9: as if your quarterback. One if your franchise quarterback is

1010
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 9: healthy enough to play, not as health enough to play.

1011
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 9: If he's as healthy as you could expect him to

1012
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 9: be in late November early December, and he's able to play,

1013
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 9: then you play the quarterback like it probably doesn't matter

1014
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 9: too much what the situation with the playoff scenario is.

1015
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 9: I would imagine that they want as many wins as possible,

1016
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 9: so thats many people in that building can keep their jobs,

1017
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 9: and Joe Burrow does a great job of providing job

1018
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 9: security to a lot of people in that building right.

1019
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 9: So as well as Joe Flacco has played in recent weeks,

1020
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 9: I think these next couple weeks are going to be

1021
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 9: very important to see if that continues to be sustainable,

1022
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 9: especially against a really good defense in New England, especially

1023
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 9: on the road against the team he knows well in Baltimore, Like,

1024
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 9: if he has to play in those games, how he

1025
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 9: does is obviously not only going to impact if the

1026
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 9: Bengals can actually win those games, but also how much

1027
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 9: they can need Burrow in case this does end up

1028
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 9: being a situation which they're alive for the playoffs and

1029
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 9: they can go down the stretch. So yes, it was

1030
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 9: a major surprise I think to all of us on

1031
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 9: the outside, it's very clear that internally they had this

1032
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 9: sort of timeline played out and they weren't necessarily shocked

1033
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 9: by it. But I think if Burrow is able to play,

1034
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 9: it doesn't really matter about the risk of reinjuring him.

1035
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 9: If he's able to play, He's Joe Burrow. He's gonna play.

1036
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 4: Is there any concern coming out of the buy? I mean,

1037
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 4: we're at a point where Joe Flacco is not thrown

1038
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 4: the first couple of days, he's expected to throw today.

1039
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 4: But is there a concern of you know, Mo has

1040
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 4: used the term this week of Joe Flacco of eventually

1041
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 4: turning back into a pumpkin. Is there a concern for

1042
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 4: you at some point that it's just not going to

1043
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 4: be as smooth as what we've seen.

1044
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that's possible, right, Like I think because

1045
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 9: of just who Joe Flax has always been in his career,

1046
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 9: you would naturally expected those tendencies of the up and

1047
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 9: down nature of going through the season with him. It

1048
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 9: would eventually catch up to him, especially at this point

1049
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 9: in his career. I think it definitely benefits the fact

1050
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 9: that he has wide receivers that win so quickly on

1051
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 9: the outside that he doesn't have to deal with pressure

1052
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 9: and therefore he's taking pure hits. But of course in

1053
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 9: this scenario, we still ends up ends up getting demmed

1054
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 9: up a little bit, and that's why he's not throwing

1055
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 9: as much during the week, right So it is very

1056
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 9: possible that he could turn back into a Pumpkins, as

1057
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 9: pointly pointed out, which is why I think they wanted

1058
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 9: to see what Burrow can do over these next couple

1059
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 9: of weeks, just to prepare for that. I think right

1060
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 9: now they just envisioned themselves as not being out of

1061
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 9: you know, out of the woods yet, and like they're

1062
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 9: very much in this and how the quarterback plays is

1063
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 9: going to be so dependent upon if that continues to

1064
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 9: be the case. So I think we can expect, we

1065
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 9: should expect anything and everything from Joe Black at this point.

1066
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 9: It's been amazing to see him in the past four weeks,

1067
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 9: but you know, there's a reason why he was able

1068
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 9: to be traded in the first place. So we're gonna

1069
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 9: see this is.

1070
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Speaker 3: Sustainable second matchup coming up against the Steelers this weekend.

1071
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: It's always tricky the second time around. What do you

1072
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 3: make of Pittsburgh in the week's following their loss to

1073
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 3: the Bengals, and how do you expect them to try

1074
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Speaker 3: to maybe play Cincinnati differently this time around.

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Speaker 9: They're pretty disjointed for a Mike Tomlin team would like.

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00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 9: I would imagine there's not a lot of positivity going

1077
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 9: on into that locker room right now, especially after what

1078
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 9: they just did against the Chargers. Aaron Rodgers his efficiency

1079
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 9: has dwindled dramatically since playing the Bengals back in Week seven.

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00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 9: He's taking three sacks a game over the past three weeks. Obviously,

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00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 9: his offense and around him is not what it probably

1082
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 9: should be to support a quarterback at that stage in

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00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 9: his career. It's just DK Metcalf and a bunch of

1084
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 9: guys and the offensive line is not necessarily playing well either, right,

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00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 9: So it's not looking great for them. And I think defensively,

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00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 9: they have put together this group of players that they

1087
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 9: maagine to play a certain style of defense, and clearly

1088
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 9: it's not a style that's going to work against the Bengals.

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Speaker 9: So how they address with that and how they make

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00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 9: sure they give safety help over the topage more. Chase

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00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 9: is going to be imperative there. But you know, they're

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00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 9: the Steelers and somehow they find answers to some of

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00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 9: these tough games. That's always gonna be something I count

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00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 9: on when whenever Mike Tomlin is coaching that team. But

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00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 9: you know, if they're looking for a bounce back game,

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00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 9: I can find a lot of other teams that wouldn't

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00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 9: be as ad for that than than the Bengals right now.

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00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 4: The bye week allows for self scout for a team.

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00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 4: It also provides, you know, a chance to look at

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00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 4: tendencies and different things like that. When you look back

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00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 4: at where this team is at, how do you evaluate

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00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 4: the offensive line as a whole at this point through

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00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 4: the year, it's been.

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Speaker 9: A mixed bag. I think considering the fact that they

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00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 9: just stumble their way to the star position, I think

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00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 9: it's okay with where it's at now. I think you

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00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 9: have a piece in Dylan Fairchild that you can go

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00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 9: into next year hoping that he can progress. We haven't

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00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 9: really seen that progression from ma Marius mmms, but I

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00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 9: think he's still been good enough to be like Okay,

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00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 9: you can keep him out there and he can continue

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00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 9: to grow. He just turned twenty three years old, right,

1113
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 9: so he's still very young. Orlanda Browns Junior, I think,

1114
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 9: is firmly in the back half of his career at

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00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 9: this point, and there's going to be more weeks than

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Speaker 9: you would like where he's just not really playing well

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01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 9: and he's losing the speed. And then Ted Carrish is

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Speaker 9: still holding on at center. So it's a weird composition

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Speaker 9: of players at different points in their career. But I

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Speaker 9: think they're all playing okay as a union, and it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 9: we're in the heart of the season. We're not really

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Speaker 9: talking about the offensive line as a major glaring issue

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Speaker 9: for this team, and I think relative to the history

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Speaker 9: of the recent history of the Bengals, that's a massive win, right,

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Speaker 9: But there's always more that they can do. I think

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Speaker 9: they need to see a little bit more out of

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01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 9: Jalen Rivers to be comfortable with having him in the

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Speaker 9: competition for next year at right guard. So these finally

1129
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 9: are going to be really big for him. So it's

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Speaker 9: very much a mixed bag, I would say, but it's

1131
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Speaker 9: not definitely not the worst of the world.

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Speaker 4: How much more can they unlock with Chase Brown. It

1133
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 4: just feels so directly tied to Joe Flacco's ability to

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Speaker 4: go under center. How can they unlock more out of

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Speaker 4: Chase Brown?

1136
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 4: Going forward with the assumption that a team like Pittsburgh

1138
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 4: is going to say, we're not going to let you

1139
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Speaker 4: throw twenty three passes to Jamar Chase and complete sixteen

1140
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Speaker 4: of them.

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Speaker 9: Many Really, we're close to doing that a couple weeks

1142
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 9: ago before he dropped that pass that would have been

1143
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 9: a touchdown, right. I think they've had opportunities to feature

1144
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 9: him more in the past game, but unfortunately under Zach Taylor,

1145
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 9: they've never been a great offense with executing screens, and

1146
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 9: partly has to do with the offensive line not being able

1147
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 9: to get out in space and things of that nature.

1148
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 9: But I think he is a very capable pass catcher,

1149
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 9: and I feel like that's just the next step of

1150
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 9: making sure that you're utilizing him in that sense where

1151
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 9: it's not just you know, it's in garbage time against

1152
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 9: the Bears and you're just trying to catch up and

1153
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 9: you just dump off after dump off with him. I

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01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 9: think there's still ways that you can utilize him in

1155
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 9: the past game that compliments what he can do in

1156
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 9: the wrong game. I'm very encouraged by what I've seen

1157
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 9: from the wrong game. You're right, and I think part

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01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 9: of that is just making sure that the second level

1159
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 9: continues to be open so he gets in space to

1160
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 9: make guys miss and obviously use that acceleration that he has.

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01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 9: So there's been progress there, and I think just making

1162
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 9: sure that you utilize the full flex of his abilities

1163
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 9: as a well rounded player, making sure that he's still

1164
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 9: involved in the past game that can continue to compliment

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Speaker 9: with what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: In the rung game.

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Speaker 4: I wonder you know, we mentioned the path forward and

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01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 4: the Bengals start believe in the past. John, as we

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01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 4: sit here today, in your view of this team, do

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01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 4: you view this as a team that that still has

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01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 4: one final run left in him, that can take the

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01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow news and and and that adds enough spark

1173
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 4: to this locker room? Do do you see or feel

1174
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 4: a run left in this in this Bengals team this year?

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01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 9: I'm not going to count them out because I've just

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01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 9: seen them do it a couple you know enough in

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Speaker 9: recent years under this coaching staff, So that's always in

1178
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 9: playing you always expect the Bengals to play their best

1179
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 9: when October turns to November and the game has become

1180
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 9: even more important. And I think that's honestly a really

1181
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 9: strong test or a testament to see how together this

1182
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 9: locker room remains to be. I think it was really

1183
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 9: notable last week how offensive and defensively, how those players

1184
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 9: responded to that win, and how they're going to come

1185
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 9: back now and regroup and try to just work together

1186
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 9: as a collective locker room to do what they've tried

1187
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 9: to do over the past two years and just take

1188
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 9: the lot, take the first two months of the season,

1189
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 9: throw it in the trash. It's a new season. Obviously,

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01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 9: the opponents are gonna be tougher within these next five weeks,

1191
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 9: which is why my authorism is not necessarily great, because

1192
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 9: let's be honest, like the teams in front of them

1193
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 9: for the next five weeks are all better than the Bengals.

1194
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 9: They're gonna be underdogs in every single one of those games,

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01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 9: and then you probably need to win most of them

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01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 9: in order to keep this postseason hope alive. So this

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01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 9: is a really strong test and I'm not not counting

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Speaker 9: them out because I've seen him to do it before,

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Speaker 9: but I've also seen him do it Joe Burrow, and

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Speaker 9: he's not walking through that door just yet.

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01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 4: Awesome stuff as always, John Sharon a is E Sports.

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Speaker 14: What are you?

1203
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 3: What are you working on?

1204
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 4: And what's the easiest way for folks to follow along

1205
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 4: with everything you got?

1206
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 6: Well?

1207
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 9: Like Austin said, there's an article about Cedric Johnson, not

1208
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 9: right now. There's a couple of other articles about Joe Flacco,

1209
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 9: about the importance of this game, things of that nature.

1210
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 9: All on eight of the Sports dot Com back Slash

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Speaker 9: Cincinnati and all your short form content on TikTok Instagram.

1212
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Speaker 9: YouTube eight is the Sports Cincinnati follow us for the

1213
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 9: final eight weeks of the season. There you don't want

1214
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Speaker 9: to miss it.

1215
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Speaker 4: John, We appreciate your time. Do the Bearcats get back

1216
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 4: on track as well?

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01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 3: I will be here.

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01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 4: Listen you throw out the tape for the Utah game.

1219
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,959
Speaker 4: I know last thank the team they got the five

1220
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 4: and two and then things fell apart. Was there anything

1221
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 4: you saw against Utah that worries you're going forward? Or

1222
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 4: do you think they use the buy and they get

1223
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 4: back on track?

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Speaker 6: Listen?

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Speaker 9: I was not a fan of what Utah was trying

1226
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 9: to do offensively, I was not a fan of I

1227
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 9: was working so well against the Bearkats defense. So yes,

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01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 9: that's tape is being thrown into the into the cerator

1229
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 9: regroup against Arizona. See if you get a win, stay

1230
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 9: in the college football playoff rres. We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Awesome, John, Thank you so much.

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01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 6: Man.

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01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 3: We appreciate your time. We'll talk again next week.

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Speaker 9: Thanks.

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01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 4: Hello, there he is John. Shearon Height is the sports

1236
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 4: covering the Cincinnati Bangal the incinerator. He said, I love it.

1237
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 4: I'd like to put all the Demetrious Knight and Shamar

1238
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 4: Stewart tape in the incinerator.

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01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 3: Oh do you think you can? Do you think maybe? Maybe?

1240
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 4: Maybe That's what they did during the Bubby that was

1241
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 4: part of their tendencies. It's a lot of smoke coming

1242
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 4: from Peycorps over the last couple of days.

1243
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 3: We'll take a break. When we come back.

1244
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 4: It's your Talkbacks hour number two ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 4: Sports Station.

1246
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 5: Now your jettis go and record message.

1247
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 13: Just hit that microphone.

1248
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 3: Please keep it clean and don't be mean.

1249
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 16: And thosequel sprinkle drift drifts.

1250
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 3: It's at Tuskert top bags.

1251
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 16: It's suck favorite party since e three sixty. So Austin

1252
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 16: buddy played those funk backs on your schien and please

1253
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 16: drive down to sabotage it.

1254
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 4: Here we go, Here we go, the Thursday edition of

1255
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 4: your Talkbacks thanks to sin t shirts.

1256
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, that's what it's called them trying to

1257
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 3: uh a little bit of time. Oh it doesn't seem

1258
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 3: to be working properly. Now we go.

1259
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Speaker 6: I knew it. I knew it.

1260
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 3: I knew it.

1261
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 7: I knew there was a cheating university up in the

1262
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 7: state of Michigan.

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01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 9: How dare you, Michigan State?

1264
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 7: Unbelievable, reprehensible, you cheating dogs.

1265
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 3: You that is unacceptable.

1266
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 7: If you have any questions, call your big brother bye bye.

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01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely disgusting. There's one thing about the state of Michigan.

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01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 3: Them folks know how to cheat, man, They really really do.

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01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 3: I didn't even plan that your own more joke just

1270
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 3: jumps just kind of was right there. Yep, this is

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Speaker 3: Mike and Independence here we talk that.

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Speaker 7: More water into our hands and drinking like you're in

1273
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Speaker 7: a lake or something.

1274
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Speaker 3: Don't you have a cup? Not now, actual cups? What

1275
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 3: about all those cups in the closet.

1276
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 13: We have cups.

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Speaker 7: I will I will probably not outlive our cup supply.

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01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 13: That's how many cups we have.

1279
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Speaker 7: And it is glorious just over the sheer volume of cups.

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Speaker 7: And I just I wanted to get that out of

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Speaker 7: the way.

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Speaker 4: Can we say that and just play it back to

1283
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 4: get Moe's reaction today. Sure, I think someone's going through

1284
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 4: a lot of time. Yeah, to make those together soundboard,

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01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 4: it sounds. I appreciate them. That's that's good time.

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01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 3: STOs Man, that's good Austin.

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01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 17: It's the Lord.

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01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 3: Hello, Lord.

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Speaker 17: I heard that you had an issue with taking off

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Speaker 17: in airplanes and you wanted to come to peace and

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01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 17: talk to the Lord about it. Just so happens to

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01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 17: be I have an opening today and we can talk

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01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 17: about this issue and get it resolved.

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01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 9: Wow.

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01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 17: Just let me know, give me a call.

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Speaker 3: From my understanding, you have a lot of openings. How

1297
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 3: about this.

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01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 11: There's that car Whether we are doing an event, we're

1299
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 11: gonna be bad, and I don't know, we knew it

1300
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 11: was gonna make it as bad, and I'm kind of

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01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 11: a wonder and maybe then, folks, there's kind and I

1302
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 11: knew how bad it was gonna be because they didn't

1303
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 11: bother making any of them defense or players into unbottlehead.

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01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 3: All right, man, thank you. Hello. This is James from

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01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 3: an unincorporated Butler County, Austin.

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Speaker 9: Your story doesn't add.

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01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 3: Up, it doesn't make sense.

1308
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 18: And I've acquired a source I don't anonymous source.

1309
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 3: That works in the building well close by. He works

1310
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 3: a fusion sushi but it's very close. He hears things.

1311
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 18: Anyways, he has information that's key to this investigation.

1312
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 19: Release the tapes, Austin.

1313
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 18: The talkback world deserves to know what happened to Mike.

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01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 18: Release the tape.

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01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 3: I hope Mike is okay. I hope Mike is doing

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01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:26,799
Speaker 3: well and we miss.

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Speaker 20: Himsh good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen on behalf of SINCY

1318
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 20: three sixty all of its wonderful listeners, sponsors and talkbackers.

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Speaker 20: I would just like to be the first to congratulate

1320
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 20: one Mo Egger on winning the Tony Pikes iHeartMedia.

1321
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 3: Employee of the Year Award.

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01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 20: Yes, congratulations, Mo, you now wear the crown. I have

1323
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 20: the best bald headed radio host inside. They keep up

1324
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 20: the good work and good luck in twenty twenty six.

1325
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 3: Now be careful, you can't make fun of the name anymore,

1326
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 3: else you get called to the principal's office a hard thing,

1327
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 3: told to stop.

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01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 4: I don't know anymore when most I didn't know if

1329
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 4: he was serious at first or what.

1330
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 3: I don't know. I award happens, but I hope it's him.

1331
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 3: I've told him before, like, dude, I cannot read you. No,

1332
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 3: I'm like really good at reading people. I can never

1333
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 3: figure awful. He probably would have won some money off

1334
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 3: those cheaters in that poker contest.

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01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 18: Hey, Bud, it's Brad in the ba blush. Anyways, Donny, Donny, Donny.

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01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 18: I think I got a bad feeling, a little sneaky,

1337
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 18: little dicky dicky sneaky feeling bad beingd that you c

1338
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,759
Speaker 18: is gonna take the out against University of Arizona, Tucson,

1339
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 18: and then I think we're gonna follow that up with

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01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 18: that even worse a pharaoh soaking by b Yu provo.

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01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 4: Okay university, Hey Bud, b why you provo?

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01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 10: This is Ronald Higgins talkback on Tony Pike's sin Z

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01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 10: three to sixty featuring Austin Elmore Well Fellas. As a

1344
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 10: long suffering Ohio sports fan, all I can think about

1345
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 10: is contraction. That's our only hope. Let's combine some of

1346
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 10: Ohio's teams and see how we fare. I'm all in

1347
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 10: for the Red Guardians. How about the Brown Bengals, And

1348
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 10: of course you'd have the Ohio State Buckcats.

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01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 4: Oh I'd be the Ohio State Bearcats. And if that

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01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 4: were the case, then Ohio State would win a national

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01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 4: title this year. If they took the best of UC

1352
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 4: and the best of what they currently have, they would

1353
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 4: win it all.

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01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 3: How many players you see right now would start at

1355
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 3: Ohio State do you think? I mean, that's a serious question.

1356
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 3: I don't know Royer, although Max player is really good.

1357
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 3: Claire's been good, but Royer would challenge him, for sure.

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01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 3: Uh Dante blugging up that notes that would be a competition. Yeah,

1359
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 3: Golday is old day, absolute freak. You would think he'd

1360
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 3: be in that kind.

1361
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 4: And I would imagine someone I mean, you see his

1362
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 4: offensive line is ridiculous. Someone on that offensive line or

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01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 4: two would be on there.

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01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 3: I didn't mean that in a bad way. Max Fletcher elite, Well,

1365
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 3: we don't punt. Well if you need to.

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01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 21: Hey, thirsty Thursday tone.

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01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 3: By the way, you guys should be really careful making

1368
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 3: fun of the name. Definitely, don't keep doing that. It's

1369
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 3: really don't. Don't do that. Someone's gonna get someone's gonna

1370
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 3: have to answer for it. Hey by that, I mean,

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01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 3: you know, hey.

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Speaker 21: Thirsty Thursday, Tony in Austin. This college basketball Scott has

1373
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 21: got me wondering is Austin and Ohio State basketball fan two?

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01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 21: Or is he like most of the fans and a

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01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 21: Duke basketball fan?

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01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 3: First of all? How dare wow? I grew up a

1377
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 3: North Carolina fan, but I shifted my allegiances to n

1378
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 3: KU and Ohio State.

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01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 21: Hey, the double dip here got a wonder what are

1380
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 21: we gonna see for us Ann Rogers's wife Brittany or.

1381
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow on the field.

1382
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 4: Wow, that's a hard one, Like there are people I've

1383
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 4: seen like that, even like wives on the team have

1384
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 4: never seen Aaron Rodgers.

1385
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it'd be a great weekend for her to

1386
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 3: make her first appearance. Why not? Then Rogers would throw

1387
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 3: for like five hundred yep?

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01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 22: Random thought? Do you guys think that the Bengals players

1389
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 22: or coaches listen to you guys or other national media

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01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 22: folks and just get an understanding of how terrible their

1391
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 22: defense is?

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01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 3: They I hope. So Okay.

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01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 6: Side note, I have not.

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01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 22: Missed Mike's la chatter.

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01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 3: Sorry not sorry.

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01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 4: Let's call it what it is. What the defense was,

1397
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 4: not who they are. Al Golden now stretches with the defense.

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01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 4: So let's give them a chance, because he's not done

1399
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 4: that yet. Let's give them a chance to see how

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01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 4: they look. I don't know if coaches do. I can

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01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 4: assure you someone from that organization listens.

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01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 3: Oh I know if people in that organization do listen.

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01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. I don't think they take what

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01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 3: we say. I don't run it up to Duke.

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01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 4: I imagine the players listen to they talked about this

1406
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 4: today and I kind of like this idea, What do

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01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 4: you think about?

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01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 3: It? Is really funny though, to picture like Duke Tobin

1409
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 3: instead of like he hops in his car to go

1410
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 3: get lunch at Skyline across the river and he turns

1411
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 3: us on, Oh, here we go again. That's a funny

1412
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 3: visual random talk. Oh my god.

1413
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 4: If he leaves the facilit you this has been read

1414
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 4: and react, Read and react brought to you by it from.

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01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 11: A read and react.

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01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 3: That's what I'm hoping to get. Hey, guys, apparently tackling

1417
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 3: dummy just scrambled eighty five yards for touchdown. What is

1418
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 3: that sound? Can you tell me that sound? I need that? Hey, guys,

1419
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 3: uh Eric, Eric, can you please tell me where you

1420
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 3: found that sound?

1421
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 6: What's up?

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01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 9: Fellas?

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01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 23: So I know the narrative with Burrow coming back is

1424
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 23: that it doesn't really matter because the defense stinks. But

1425
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 23: I'm looking at time of possession percentage last year with

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01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 23: Burrow starting all the games, it was fifty last game

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01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 23: versus the Bears is forty three percent with Flacco because

1428
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 23: I think he has a tendency to score quicker than Burrow.

1429
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 23: So maybe that eight percent difference means you keep the

1430
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 23: defense off the field a bit more.

1431
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:50,600
Speaker 4: Okay, maybe I would say that's possible for anything to

1432
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 4: keep the defense off the field.

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01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 3: I would also challenge that part of the reason it's

1434
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 3: for the defense.

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01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 24: Rep in the city out here. Sonny boys on, you

1436
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 24: got lumpy your thowg. But you know what I feel,

1437
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 24: you thiss on? A team worries me. They run the

1438
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 24: ball good? They six and three, they should be eight

1439
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 24: and one. Stop the run and feature Joe Royer in

1440
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 24: this offense this weekend and only Poe that matters is

1441
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 24: the college football playoff pole, not that top twenty five pole.

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01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 13: That poll is irrelevant.

1443
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 24: Now bear Cass, this is your time to take the

1444
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 24: city this weekend, Coach Sat, get this win and prove

1445
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 24: everybody that we can win big games.

1446
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 25: Come on, Hey, yeah, guys, if Joe Burrow is healthy,

1447
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 25: he plays okay, period. Yeah, he's the leader of this

1448
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 25: football team. And how are you going to expect other

1449
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 25: guys to go out there, especially if they're a little

1450
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 25: dinged up and give it all they got if your

1451
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 25: leader is healthy and not playing, So to me, it's

1452
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 25: a slam dunk. If he is healthy, he needs to

1453
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 25: be out there. Who they Okay? Feel that.

1454
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:58,719
Speaker 4: Take position? What Let's say let's say Chase Brown was injured,

1455
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 4: and let's say p has put up the numbers that

1456
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 4: Chase Brown has over the last three games, and then

1457
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 4: Chase Brown's healthy. Would you be saying we'll give Chase

1458
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 4: Brown back his starting role? Would you want to see

1459
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 4: or continue to see?

1460
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 6: What?

1461
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 14: Like?

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01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 4: Does that theory Burrow's healthy he plays, Does that ring

1463
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 4: true of every position? Or just because it's Joe Burrow? No,

1464
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 4: I don't think so, just because it's Joe Burrow.

1465
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 26: Yeah, I'll tell you when Joey D's on the show,

1466
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 26: he brings some class with them. Shout out to the joker.

1467
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 3: Yeah a j Brown.

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01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 26: I like how he he speaks his mind. I mean

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01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 26: sometimes he might be too aggressive, but you know he's

1470
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 26: honest and straightforward, which that's good in the sports world

1471
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 26: these days, not just blah blah blah.

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01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 3: Yep makes a lot of sense. Well said, makes a lot.

1473
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 3: Joey D Does bring a lot to this.

1474
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 13: Guru here in well Audie.

1475
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,719
Speaker 27: I tell you what Tony's phone got me excited earlier.

1476
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 27: I heard d me and I thought there was breaking

1477
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 27: news on red signing some minor leaguers.

1478
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 9: Has been somewhere.

1479
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 4: That was actually the breaking news sound of the tackling

1480
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 4: dummy that had just gotten loose at practice.

1481
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 3: Well, the Reds did make a move today. Whoa They

1482
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 3: have named Oscar Marien bullpen coach on the major league staff.

1483
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 3: The pitching has been the pitching coach for the Pittsburgh

1484
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 3: Pirates with a guy by the name of Paul Skeens

1485
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 3: for the last five or six years. Didn't they claim

1486
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 3: someone off waivers from the Dodgers as well?

1487
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 11: Uh?

1488
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ben rorv Ststead or something.

1489
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 4: See now, I need Mike to let us know about Ben.

1490
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 19: Whatever happened to Harry Carey, whatever happened to Hank Hill

1491
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 19: and the guy that the one time left the Robert F.

1492
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 3: Kennedy junior.

1493
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 11: Man.

1494
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 4: Going into the cold and flu season, I feel like

1495
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 4: we need to hear from Robert.

1496
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Especially I feel like he's just dealing with something.

1497
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 3: This week. Did you see there was this hilarious video

1498
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 3: of him And I'm honestly, God, I'm not trying to

1499
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 3: get political. They were doing they were doing, they were

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01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 3: you were doing a thing in the White House about

1501
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 3: like a health and safety thing in the Oval Office.

1502
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 3: And it was the day that guy passed out, which

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01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 3: I find that stuff funny when people pass out. This

1504
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 3: guy passes out and you see r F K. He's

1505
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,879
Speaker 3: like on the other side, he like turns and sprints

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Speaker 3: out of the room. Didn't offer to help at all.

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Speaker 7: He just.

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Speaker 3: Everyone else like goes to help.

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Speaker 20: This guy's I'll tell you what Mondays through Fridays noon

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Speaker 20: to three.

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Speaker 6: Man, you guys are my buds.

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Speaker 20: Just want to let you know that, Ah take care

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Speaker 20: of Bud.

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01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 3: Oh thank you. That's I mean, that's heartwarming to you,

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01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 3: isn't it. Man? Yeah, all right, that speaks right to me.

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01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 3: That was our last one. All right, we got football

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01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 3: in the NATI.

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Speaker 4: Next ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station thanks to CINTI shirts.

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Speaker 7: Saturday, We're away Kentucky football.

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Speaker 15: Their cats are hungry for another victory and they're ready

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Speaker 15: to do some bird hunting. Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles and

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Speaker 15: your Kentucky Wildcats. UK coverage starts Saturday morning at eleven

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Speaker 15: thirty on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: In the NATI, Brought to you in part by Blood

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Speaker 1: Light and by Oakley Greens on ESPN fifteen thirty, the

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Speaker 1: official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back football in the NATI.

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Speaker 4: Hour number two coming up in our number three, Kegan

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01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 4: Nicholson of Bearcat Journal dot com will you and we'll

1530
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 4: talk some Novacare injury concerns going forward, Moagger's here and

1531
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 4: so much more. But we do have a football in

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01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 4: the NAUGHTY right now, Austin, what do we have?

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01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 3: How about this? This is from Seth Wickersham and Don

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01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 3: Van Knotta, Junior of ESPN. Seth, the NFL filed a

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01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 3: grievance against the NFL Players Association, asking the union to

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01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 3: stop its annual team report cards, saying the exercise violates

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01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 3: the CBA by airing public criticism of teams. According to

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01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:39,799
Speaker 3: documents obtained by ESPN, the league claims the report cards,

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01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 3: which pole players on various aspects of working conditions, violate

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01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 3: a CBA clause that says NFL owners and the union

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01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 3: must use reasonable efforts to curtail public comments by club

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01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 3: personnel or players which express criticism of any club, its coach,

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01:20:56,280 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 3: or its operation and policy. Wowly the person behind this.

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01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 3: You want to take a guess which NFL owner was

1545
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 3: leading the charge against this. Which one that would be

1546
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 3: one Woody Johnson of the New York Jets. He called

1547
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 3: the survey quote totally bogus, shocker. So that's one of

1548
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 3: my favorite days of the year on this show. Yeah,

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01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 3: to go through that, it's it's I think this is

1550
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 3: soft by the NFL, but feel a little soft. But

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01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 3: if it does violate the agreement, well then no one

1552
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 3: to blame but yourself if you're the NFLPA, Right, Yeah,

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01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 3: those report cards on fun, though, We have a lot

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01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 3: of fun with them. After months of discussions with the

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01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 3: league after the letter, the NFLPA alerted its players to

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01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 3: the grievance last week and said, quote, it's moving ahead

1557
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 3: with this year's survey.

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01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 4: One owner told ESPN the quote, the only owners who

1559
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,839
Speaker 4: don't care for what are the ones who gets subpar grades.

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Speaker 3: That's true. We have responded to the grievance with our

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01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 3: intention to fight against this action and continue what's clearly

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01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 3: become an effective tool for comparing workplace standards across the

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01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 3: league and equipping you to make informed career decisions. The

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01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 3: NFLPA wrote in an email to its players that is.

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01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 4: Incredible, says it could make you better, but they don't

1566
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 4: share how. They just take snippets to embarrass people. M okay, well,

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01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:35,600
Speaker 4: I think I enjoy them. Speaking of Woody Johnson, this

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01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 4: team's an action tonight, that's right, Old Woodrow Jets Patriots.

1569
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 4: Any chance, any chance the Jets can shock the Patriots? Yeah,

1570
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 4: there's always a chance. It's national fourteen and a half

1571
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 4: is the number? Oh, my lord, thirteen and a half.

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01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 4: There's always a chance. Man, it's a National Football League.

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01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 4: I think Drake May is now the odds on favor

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01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 4: to win MVP?

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01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 3: Are they? I think so? Did I see today? I

1576
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 3: think it was? I want to say kay Adams was

1577
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 3: posting this that the Chiefs have become the favorite to

1578
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl on on Fandel Is that real?

1579
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:11,560
Speaker 3: Did I make that up? I could have dreamt that,

1580
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 3: you well, you might have dreamt it.

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01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 4: The problem is like when if I dream of something

1582
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 4: like that, I wake up and I put it on

1583
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 4: an alarm on my phone.

1584
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 3: Have you like, have you ever had any try that?

1585
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 3: I have this iPad with me all the time. I'm

1586
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 3: always writing stuff downs. Have you ever gone through like

1587
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 3: a period of sleep in your life and I know

1588
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 3: you're sleep scheduled last week monk crazy. You ever like

1589
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 3: lay down and feels like you're asleep for five minutes? Yes,

1590
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 3: and boom, it's six o'clock in the morning. Yes, that

1591
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 3: has been like the last two weeks for me. I

1592
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 3: feel like I took a five minute nap and you're

1593
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 3: back and it's six am.

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01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:59,600
Speaker 4: According to Draft Kings, as of today, Matthew Stafford is

1595
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 4: the odds on favorite to win the MVP plus two sixty.

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01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 3: What about Super Bowl?

1597
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 4: Drake may is plus two seventy five. So those are

1598
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 4: your top two? Let's figure out a Super Bowl? Yeah,

1599
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 4: right now, Chiefs plus six hundred are the betting favorites

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01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 4: to win the Super Bowl.

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01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 3: Plus six hundred is pretty good value. I feel like

1602
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 3: Ram could be worth a sprinkle.

1603
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 4: Plus six fifty, and then the Eagles at plus seven fifty,

1604
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 4: tied with the Lions.

1605
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm all in on the Eagles.

1606
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 3: Going back to back.

1607
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 4: The AFC team, the Chiefs are the number one of

1608
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 4: the highest odds, and then it's four NFC teams, Rams, Eagles, Lions, Seahawks,

1609
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 4: and then you get the Colts and Bills. Ravens are

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01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 4: plus thirteen hundred. The Ravens have better Super Bowl odds

1611
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 4: right now than the Patriots, Packers, Broncos, Bucks, Chargers, Niners,

1612
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 4: and Bengals. What's Tampa's Tampa plus twenty five hundred. That

1613
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 4: ain't bad for a sprinkle.

1614
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 3: I like that a lot. Bengals plus thirty thousand. What

1615
01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:00,759
Speaker 3: about Detroit? What are they seven fifty?

1616
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm gonna use bet ten dollars on the

1617
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 4: Bengals to win the Super Bowl and you can win

1618
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 4: three thousand.

1619
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 3: Does the Super Bowl winner hunter come out of the

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01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:11,640
Speaker 3: AFC or the NFC.

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01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 4: As of right now, I'm going to say the AFC

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01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 4: because I think the NFC is going to beat each

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01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 4: other up more in the playoffs.

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01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, I'll take the other side. I got the NFC,

1625
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 3: all right, marinate on that for a second. We'll be

1626
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 3: doing let's call it gets get hurt her.

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01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 4: Let's get her the on the on the line. It's

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01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 4: conferences right now, so the kids are at home. Conferences

1629
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 4: are a great day. Conferences. Ain't no commissions around? Where

1630
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 4: are they couldn't tell you we did have conferences today.

1631
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,799
Speaker 4: Big day in the Pike House, Wilder and Wesley's conferences.

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01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 4: We'll take a break, we'll come back. We'll put a

1633
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Speaker 4: bowl on our number two. Next ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 4: Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: You've been listening to football in the Natti on ESPN

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01:25:52,080 --> 01:26:04,839
Speaker 1: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back Sincy three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station,

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01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 4: thanks to Cincy shirts. Kegan nickoson Bearcat Journal dot Com

1639
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:19,839
Speaker 4: will join us in our number three. Kegan is uh

1640
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 4: is set to talk all things Bearcats basketball, some Bearcats football.

1641
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 3: We look forward to that each and every Thursday. He's

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01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 3: my favorite. Nickoson second favorite, but you know he's my

1643
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 3: favorite that's fine. That's to each their own. I was

1644
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 3: told I'm his favorite elmore So, we'll also talk to

1645
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 3: Brian Growie of Nova Care. In our number three, we'll

1646
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:41,679
Speaker 3: get to Moeger. Of course.

1647
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 4: Evan on ex Austin came up with the idea for

1648
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 4: a discussion topic. Okay, should the Bengals start kicking an

1649
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 4: on side kick every time they score? Feels like the

1650
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 4: percentage of recoveries and the defense getting to stop is

1651
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 4: about the same.

1652
01:26:56,240 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Yeah, you know, I see, like that crazy.

1653
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 3: It's really not that crazy. Desperate times call for desperate measure,

1654
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 3: not that crazy. I don't. I don't hate the idea.

1655
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 3: I mean, they're one for one on on side kicks

1656
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 3: this year. That's one hundred percent, by the way saying,

1657
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 3: But yet I think I'd go for it. Might help

1658
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 3: with the time of possession issue we discussed earlier.

1659
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 4: Time of possession would be helped drink the field strength field.

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01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, if they're going to give up touchdowns, might as

1661
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:28,719
Speaker 3: well not give up yards.

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01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 6: I love it.

1663
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 3: You win the time of possession, you win the total yardage.

1664
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 3: Can you imagine you can put up banners for that

1665
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 3: if you do, like, let's say, you recover one a game.

1666
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 3: I know that's a tall task, but is you steal

1667
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 3: one extra possession? Again?

1668
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 4: I mean, DEFENSI philosophy is the same. Anyway, you're going

1669
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 4: to give up yards and hope to hold them to

1670
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,640
Speaker 4: a field goal instead of a touchdown, So might as

1671
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 4: well just get them closer to that field goal to

1672
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 4: start the drive.

1673
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 3: Well, I guess we'll find out if they listen to

1674
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,839
Speaker 3: us at pay Course Stadium or not. Can you imagine

1675
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 3: Zach in his office right now?

1676
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 4: I don't think Zach, but imagine someone listening and being

1677
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,480
Speaker 4: like I would imagine Gosh.

1678
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 3: Would imagine Zach listens his friends probably tell them, Hey,

1679
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 3: there's only one guy in this city who actually gives

1680
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 3: you the benefit of the doubt.

1681
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 4: His named Austin Olmore. Exactly, you're not gonna believe this.

1682
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 4: There's this dude Evan on social media and he tweeted

1683
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 4: it Tony and Austin. You know, since he three to

1684
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 4: sixty Tony in Austin, and he said, wouldn't be a

1685
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 4: bad idea to kick on sides every time after you score?

1686
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 3: Odds are about the same. What do you think? You know?

1687
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 3: What's actually crazy? Is I wouldn't put it past Darren

1688
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 3: Simmons to actually come up with this idea. Imagine like

1689
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 3: a coaches meeting. Simmons is like, I gotta hear me out.

1690
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 3: I gotta hear me out. Man. We're solving issues right now.

1691
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 3: I don't think it's not the worst idea right here,

1692
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 3: right now. That's good for Evan. By the way, thank you, Evan. Uh.

1693
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 4: Shout out to Evan man, Evan for giving us a discussion.

1694
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 4: Shout out to f We'll take a break, Keegan nickoson net.

1695
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 4: Evan might know ball, He's a ball. Numb might be

1696
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 4: a ball. No, he's a ball. Number ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 4: As we get underway here our number three ESBN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati Sports Station let's talk Bearcats. A huge one at

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01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 4: Nippert Stadium on Saturday, Bearcat basketball plays on Sunday, and

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01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 4: then of course a huge matchup against Louisville at Heritage

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Speaker 4: Bank Arena next Friday night, and then BYU comes into town.

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01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 4: So picking up here for the Cincinnati Bearcats. So let's

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01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:54,679
Speaker 4: spend time talking about said Bearcats. Austin's favorite, my second favorite, Nickoson.

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01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 4: It's Keegan Nickoson joining us right now from Bearcat Journal

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01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 4: dot com.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Keegan Hike, can you sound healthy? You sound well?

1715
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 3: You sound much better than the flu game that you

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01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 3: had to push through.

1717
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 28: Well, that's ironic because I actually had food poisoning yesterday.

1718
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 6: So I'm I'm really uh. My recovery rate is very

1719
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 6: good in terms of them being out for a day.

1720
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 6: But I'm doing solid.

1721
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 3: Do you know, like what it was that you ate?

1722
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 3: You don't have to give like a name brand or anything,

1723
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 3: but do you know what it was?

1724
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:32,680
Speaker 6: There's no one in this world I fear more than

1725
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 6: Zack Stipe, So I'm not going to bring it up.

1726
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 3: I'll take that and run. Kagan.

1727
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 4: Let's let's talk about what was at Fit Third Arena

1728
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 4: against the Dayton flyers, because I feel like you could

1729
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 4: be on both sides of this one sloppy twenty four

1730
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 4: turnovers Dayton makes seven percent of their three, But on

1731
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 4: the other end, you still find a way to win

1732
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 4: the game by twelve points, and talking about a win

1733
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 4: while having things to fix is a lot better than

1734
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 4: a loss. How did you view the I would say,

1735
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 4: how do you view the effort that you saw from

1736
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 4: this Bearcat team against Dayton?

1737
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 28: I think you see was just the better team at

1738
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 28: the end of the day. I think they were bigger

1739
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:27,799
Speaker 28: and better And basically I would say every facet except

1740
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 28: for turnovers, and you know, if you want to put

1741
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 28: a spin zone on it, you can say, well, we

1742
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 28: know the one thing they have to work on over

1743
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 28: three games, because the turnovers have been like that kind

1744
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 28: of really bright flashing warning sign.

1745
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 6: And I think it's mainly due to the fast pace

1746
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 6: that they're playing with.

1747
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 28: It's different than what you see's played with in the

1748
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:53,639
Speaker 28: past two years. And Wes Miller is not someone who

1749
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 28: is going to see the struggles with the pace and

1750
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 28: then just kind of change course.

1751
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 6: He sounds like he's really committed to it. So it's

1752
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 6: definitely something that they had to flesh.

1753
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 28: Out with that kind of increased chemistry. But maybe the

1754
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 28: turnovers are just something that it's not going to be

1755
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:16,799
Speaker 28: twenty four is I think how many they had against Stayton.

1756
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 28: It's not going to be like that every night. But

1757
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 28: that could be a weak spot for this team. But

1758
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 28: when you get to that eight minute mark of a

1759
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 28: second half and you're wearing down the opposition, that's when

1760
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 28: they can kind of take over.

1761
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 6: And that's what you saw against Dayton. So they played well.

1762
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 28: I think they shot it pretty well when they actually

1763
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 28: couldn't shoot the ball and didn't turn it over because

1764
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 28: I think at some point they had turned it over

1765
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 28: in twenty or fifty possessions, which isn't.

1766
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 6: Great, but you know they I think they were just

1767
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 6: more talented.

1768
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 3: The talent level is high on this team.

1769
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 4: What do you make of the style in which they've

1770
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 4: been able to play through the first three Again, the

1771
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 4: level of competition will pick up, but it does feel

1772
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 4: like a team last year they were just searching. At times,

1773
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 4: you could see the possession unfolding where there wasn't much

1774
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 4: ball movement. It became a rough shot at the end.

1775
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 4: I thought at times against Dayton they might have had

1776
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 4: one or two passes too many. But it does feel

1777
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:15,560
Speaker 4: different the way this team operates offensively in trying to

1778
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 4: push it if it's not there.

1779
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 3: They do share the ball.

1780
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 28: Well, yeah, there's a lot of ball movement, definitely more

1781
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 28: than what I've seen in the past couple of years.

1782
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 6: And that really starts with per Crisa.

1783
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,640
Speaker 28: And you even see him kind of making those no

1784
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 28: looks behind the back passes that end up going straight

1785
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 28: out of bounds because he's expecting a teammate a teammate

1786
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 28: to be somewhere that they aren't. But I think when

1787
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,640
Speaker 28: you talk about talent, you talk about style, you have

1788
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,560
Speaker 28: to go to Seanabia and Baba.

1789
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 6: Miller, those two guys that are kind of.

1790
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 28: Raising the roof and getting the fans really excited. A

1791
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 28: Baya hits two turnaround threes, one while he's getting found

1792
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:56,600
Speaker 28: and literally falling into the lap of someone that was

1793
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 28: sitting in half court, just like really really great play,

1794
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 28: and Baba Miller's reaching all the way back and getting

1795
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 28: an al oop.

1796
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 6: I think, and I've.

1797
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 28: Mentioned it before, but those three players and Miller, Abiah

1798
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 28: and Sham are gonna be kind of the catalyst of

1799
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:16,799
Speaker 28: what the Cincinnati team can be. Sham's kind of struggled

1800
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,640
Speaker 28: a little bit, at least offensively, but you see his

1801
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 28: ability on the defensive end, kind of similar to his

1802
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 28: E's mandego, where you just see his arm reach out

1803
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 28: and you wonder, I don't know how anyone shoots over.

1804
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:28,799
Speaker 6: That guy.

1805
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 28: Hasn't wrapped up the blocks as many as people might

1806
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 28: have thought that he would so far, But I think

1807
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 28: that you'll start to see that kind of increases he

1808
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:38,839
Speaker 28: gets more comfortable.

1809
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 6: But yeah, those three are great. Kerkkrisa been really good.

1810
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 28: And then another guy who isn't getting into a lot

1811
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:50,560
Speaker 28: of notice is Jalen Celesting, but he just comes in

1812
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 28: and he hits those few threes and big spots, and

1813
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:55,640
Speaker 28: he hit one that kind of barked a run and

1814
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 28: gave him some momentum when they were struggling against.

1815
01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 6: Dayton and it helped the time.

1816
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 4: Is there anything you can do, personally, Keegan to help

1817
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:03,759
Speaker 4: this team with their free throw shooting?

1818
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 28: You know, I really don't think so. You kind of

1819
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 28: almost have to bake in that they're going to make

1820
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 28: under sixty five percent of the free throws in the

1821
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 28: game plan, so you have to go somewhere else.

1822
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:18,719
Speaker 6: Wes Miller was actually talking about it at his radio

1823
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 6: show last week, and I think it was after the

1824
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:25,560
Speaker 6: Western Carolina game. He turned around to Dan Horde and

1825
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,639
Speaker 6: Terry or it might have been Dan Hord know during

1826
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:32,560
Speaker 6: that game and said, is there like a curse on

1827
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 6: the Cincinnati free throws?

1828
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 28: And I think that he kind of just didn't believe

1829
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 28: it after the first four years, but now that it's

1830
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 28: been five, he's like, Okay, this is actually like out

1831
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 28: of our control. So I'm not sure when guys like

1832
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 28: Shanabaya or missing them Bass, when it's more obvious because

1833
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 28: he's supposed to be like one of the best shooters

1834
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 28: Jeordie Rodriguez, other guys who are just supposed to be

1835
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 28: really really good shooters, it almost feels like.

1836
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 6: There's a curse.

1837
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 28: But you know, I I think it was the first

1838
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 28: player to make all at least ten of their attempts

1839
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 28: make all of them.

1840
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 6: Dayde Thomas did it against Dayton. The other time was

1841
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 6: in twenty twelve.

1842
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:14,480
Speaker 28: Yeah, so when you don't have that kind of consistency,

1843
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,600
Speaker 28: maybe there's some voodoo or crazy stuff going on.

1844
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 4: I have to ask because this is always fascinating to me,

1845
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 4: and I know early in the season, you play a

1846
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 4: lot of guys when all is said and done with

1847
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:29,799
Speaker 4: this team, like we saw, Jordi Rodriguez and Keishan Tillery's

1848
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:32,600
Speaker 4: minutes were eliminated in the second half against Dayton, and

1849
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:36,480
Speaker 4: they did not play particularly well. Both had two turnovers

1850
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 4: in a short amount of time in the first half.

1851
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 4: When all is said and done, what do you think

1852
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 4: the ideal number is for a rotation in the Big

1853
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 4: twelve to have the most success.

1854
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 28: I think Wes has actually said before that the rotation

1855
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 28: actually needs to grow instead of shrink when you get

1856
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 28: to conference play. I think it needs to be around nine,

1857
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 28: but that has to be nine guys who can really

1858
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 28: really compete and help you. Like, it's not putting someone

1859
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 28: on the floor that's going to struggle just for the

1860
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:11,759
Speaker 28: sake of having a longer rotation that gives some guys,

1861
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 28: some breeders and some breaks. I think it's nine to ten,

1862
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 28: and you know, I don't really know it's weird.

1863
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 6: I would go with nine to ten and then just

1864
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 6: kind of always try to have your best players on

1865
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 6: the floor as much as possible, because you've seen how

1866
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 6: that's worked for Uce. So yeah, I would go nine

1867
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 6: to ten.

1868
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 4: The matchup against Louisville. Louisville's a great basketball team. We

1869
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 4: just watched what they did to Kentucky on Tuesday night.

1870
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 4: Everyone knows Pat Kelsey's got a very talented team. How

1871
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:47,599
Speaker 4: far could a win next Friday go for Wes Miller

1872
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 4: and this team and the trajectory because it feels like

1873
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 4: one of those wins against an opponent that has just

1874
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 4: eluded Wes Miller. You're essentially playing it at your backyard

1875
01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 4: at Heritage Bank. But how far would it go to

1876
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 4: find a way to win that game on Friday night?

1877
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 4: For not only this team, but for Wes in general.

1878
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 6: It would be absolutely huge.

1879
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 28: I think it would do a ton for their kind

1880
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 28: of their trendiness around the country and what people think

1881
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 28: of this team because you know, they're not ranked in

1882
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 28: the AP top twenty five. They're around like thirty six

1883
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 28: or thirty seven in terms of Ken Palm where he's

1884
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 28: looking at him. So I think it would do a ton.

1885
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 28: Louisville is legitimately.

1886
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 6: A Final four contender. I mean, that's how good that

1887
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 6: team is.

1888
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 28: And you saw what they did to former Bearcat Eric

1889
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:37,760
Speaker 28: Martin South Carolina State team.

1890
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 6: I think it was like some like fifty to like

1891
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 6: eight at halftime or something like that. Just a blowout.

1892
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 28: And I mean, Pat Kelsey's a great coach, Michael Brown

1893
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 28: is a really really good guard who a lot of

1894
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:54,599
Speaker 28: people are talking about as a lottery pick.

1895
01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 6: But this is a game where Cincinnati just kind of

1896
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 6: has to establish identity.

1897
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 28: If you're going to be a team that plays with

1898
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 28: a ton of pace, go and wear Louisville down for

1899
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 28: some mistakes and have a really good shooting night.

1900
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 6: Maybe have a really good shooting night from the free

1901
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 6: throw line once in your life, and just kind of

1902
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 6: wear away at that Louisville team.

1903
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 28: But you know, it'd be a great thing to kind

1904
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 28: of get people back on West's side. A lot of people,

1905
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 28: including myself, don't really know what this team's gonna be,

1906
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:26,799
Speaker 28: and through three games, we don't have that much more clarity.

1907
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 28: We've got some kind of like you know, Shana Bay,

1908
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 28: It's been pretty consistently good. Baba Miller could be one

1909
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 28: of the better players in the entire Big Twelve.

1910
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 6: But beating that Louisville team, especially in like an old

1911
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 6: rivalry type game, it would put Cincinnati on the map,

1912
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 6: especially in front of your home crowd, even though I

1913
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 6: would expect it to be close to fifty to fifty,

1914
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 6: if at the very least sixty forty. With Louisville fans.

1915
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 4: Talk a little bit, let's switch to the football side

1916
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 4: a few more minutes. You with Keegan nickoson Bearcat journal

1917
01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 4: dot com. Everyone asked over the bye Kegan, what's different

1918
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 4: about this year's team compared to last year's team, the

1919
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 4: team that started five and two and then lost their

1920
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 4: final five. I thought, I don't know if it was

1921
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 4: much as being exposed against Utah, but receivers struggled at

1922
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 4: times to get open. Brendan Swarsby didn't have his best day.

1923
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 4: The special teams unit resorted back to what we've seen

1924
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 4: in the past, and that was not great defense, couldn't

1925
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:23,719
Speaker 4: get the stops when necessary. What gives you more confidence

1926
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 4: that the Utah game was more of just a one

1927
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 4: off and not something that's going to be the norm

1928
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 4: going forward.

1929
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't really know about that game being a

1930
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 6: one off.

1931
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 28: If I'm being completely honest, if they play Utah on

1932
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 28: a nutral site, hypothetically, I think Utah probably wins, and

1933
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Speaker 28: probably wins by seven to ten. Like, I didn't take

1934
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 28: much from that game to be like, oh this is

1935
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:52,719
Speaker 28: this is kind of fluky. Now you saw the special

1936
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 28: teams lapses, you saw the fumble in the in the

1937
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:59,600
Speaker 28: red zone after a big play, which that's where you

1938
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 28: can look at it. But you know, Utah just dominated

1939
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 28: them up front.

1940
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 6: They brought a ton of pressure and they played really

1941
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 6: tight man.

1942
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Speaker 28: And if I'm being completely honest, if a team's gonna

1943
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 28: do that, and they're gonna be able to do that,

1944
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:16,680
Speaker 28: like Arizona, I think they're playing on playing a lot

1945
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 28: of man, but I don't know if they have the

1946
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 28: horses that Utah has. If a team's gonna do that,

1947
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 28: U see is gonna have trouble in all honesty, And

1948
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 28: it's not because they're not a talented team, but I

1949
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:30,800
Speaker 28: just don't know if they're up to that level of talent.

1950
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Speaker 6: That the Utahs and Texas Tech have so far.

1951
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Speaker 28: So I'd be really interested to see what if Texas

1952
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 28: Tech versus u SE showdown would look like in Dallas.

1953
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Speaker 6: That's a big twelve championship because it's kind of the

1954
01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 6: that's kind of what everyone is looking forward to. It's

1955
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:48,840
Speaker 6: the most likely scenario. But yeah, I don't know if

1956
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:49,679
Speaker 6: that was fluky.

1957
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 28: I still think that they're gonna go free and o

1958
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 28: in these last three games and they're gonna play for

1959
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:59,679
Speaker 28: Big Twelve championship. Despite I think k Ford today said

1960
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 28: there's an eighty five percent chance they go one and.

1961
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 6: Two down the stretch.

1962
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Speaker 28: But I think this is a really, really good Cincinnati team.

1963
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 28: Just other certain teams in the Big Twelve offer a

1964
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 28: matchup that don't really give them a great chance to

1965
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 28: be able to come out victorious health wise.

1966
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 4: Does it feel like they're close to back being where

1967
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 4: they need to be? Golday was banged up, Dante Corleone's

1968
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 4: been banged up, Evan Pryor didn't play coming out of

1969
01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 4: the by. Does this team feel healthy?

1970
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 28: Evan Pryor was questionable and Caleb Goodie was questionable on

1971
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:35,639
Speaker 28: the latest availability report, So we're going to be looking

1972
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 28: up for those guys and seeing if they're playing at

1973
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 28: least in the game day update.

1974
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:41,839
Speaker 6: So I think that they're.

1975
01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 28: Definitely getting healthier. Golde is fine, and I think Dat

1976
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:45,560
Speaker 28: Day Crolyon is.

1977
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 6: I actually think Datae Croleone is going to really pop

1978
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 6: off in these last three games.

1979
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Speaker 28: I think he's going to have kind of that that

1980
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 28: mindset of these are my last three games as a Bearcat,

1981
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 28: We've got everything in front of us to kind of

1982
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 28: etch our name down in history and get to that

1983
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 28: Big twelve championship game, be the first team to get

1984
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 28: to a Big twelve championship game. So I think I

1985
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,639
Speaker 28: think he'll have a big three games. Maybe he gets

1986
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 28: to one hundred percent health. And like I said, Goade

1987
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:15,839
Speaker 28: is one hundred percent healthy. So I think they're trending

1988
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 28: in that direction. But those two question marks of Goody

1989
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 28: and Evan Pryor, those are two big games that we're

1990
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 28: going to be looking out for on Saturday.

1991
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 4: So many people all they want to do is talk

1992
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 4: about the BYU game next weekend. And here comes an

1993
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:33,120
Speaker 4: Arizona team that took BYU to overtime. They had a

1994
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 4: ten point lead in the fourth quarter, lost eventually in

1995
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 4: ot Houston beat him at the gun at Houston. Houston

1996
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 4: is eight and two. They have a loss at Iowa State.

1997
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 4: This is a good defense in Arizona. It's a quarterback

1998
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 4: in Noah Fafida who's got over twenty two hundred yards

1999
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 4: passing in twenty three touchdowns with only four interceptions. I

2000
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 4: caution I have cautioned a lot of Bearcap fans that

2001
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:58,519
Speaker 4: this is a good Arizona team. How much of a

2002
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 4: challenge does this team possess this Cincinnati bearcatch group on Saturday.

2003
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:06,680
Speaker 28: Yeah, if I'm completely honest, I think they have a

2004
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 28: better chance of losing to Arizona at Bold than they

2005
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:13,559
Speaker 28: do of losing to TCU on the road. Like Scott

2006
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:17,639
Speaker 28: Saderfield said it, Jason Sheer, who covers Arizona for two

2007
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 28: poor seven, I talked to him and he said it.

2008
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:23,760
Speaker 28: This team's six points from being eight and one. Like

2009
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 28: a lot of fans have talked about UC over the

2010
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 28: past couple of years and then those one score games,

2011
01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:31,439
Speaker 28: just how close they were. This team is that close

2012
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 28: to being tied with Texas Tech and Cincinnati for the

2013
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 28: lead in the Big twelve and BYU And it's those

2014
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:41,879
Speaker 28: close games.

2015
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:47,479
Speaker 6: It's the last second things, it's the small plays.

2016
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 28: So I think Noah Flafida is a veteran quarterback who's

2017
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 28: having a really, really good year despite losing Teedo McMillan,

2018
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 28: which is probably one of the best wide receivers in

2019
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 28: Arizona history, who playing with.

2020
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 6: The Carolina Panthers now and having a really great rookie season.

2021
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 28: The defense is I think number nineteen in points per

2022
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 28: game and number thirty in yards per game, so they're

2023
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 28: playing really well and the offense is around the same numbers.

2024
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 6: So it's a really really good team. The weakness is

2025
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:19,120
Speaker 6: the rush defense, and that's where.

2026
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 28: I'm going to look for Scott Saderfield to establish the

2027
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 28: run game on Saturday and then hit those play action shots.

2028
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 6: So what I'm looking for is defense, step up, get

2029
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 6: a couple.

2030
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 28: Stops to start the game, and then the offense just

2031
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 28: takes that traditional two possession maybe even three possession lead

2032
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 28: at halftime, and then the opposition is obviously gonna like

2033
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 28: come back and call back and they're going to I

2034
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 28: think Arizona will be in a spot where there it's

2035
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 28: turnover away from maybe time to game, like we've seen

2036
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 28: against UCF in Iowa State. But that's where Brendan Soworthy's

2037
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 28: talent and how good he's playing comes in. And then

2038
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 28: you see feels at thirty four or twenty four victory.

2039
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 4: Higher likelihood you see winning the final three in football,

2040
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:07,560
Speaker 4: or uc beating Louisville next Friday.

2041
01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:10,799
Speaker 6: Night winning the final three in football.

2042
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 28: Okay, and that's not me saying that you see is

2043
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:18,400
Speaker 28: not a good basketball team, because I think they are.

2044
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:20,360
Speaker 6: And if I had to pick right now, I think

2045
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:21,559
Speaker 6: that they would make the tournament.

2046
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 28: But I think Louisville is a legit Final Four contender,

2047
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 28: and I think they're gonna have a really, really good season.

2048
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:29,559
Speaker 6: They're well coached and they have a ton of talent.

2049
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 4: Kegan, you're the best, well, you're the second best out

2050
01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 4: of your family. But we enjoy your time here for

2051
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 4: Bearcat journal dot com. What's the easiest way people can

2052
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:39,680
Speaker 4: follow along with everything you got coming out?

2053
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:45,679
Speaker 6: Follow k Nicholson forty two on Twitter, and then also

2054
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 6: make sure you subscribe to Barricutt Journal. Check out my

2055
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:48,840
Speaker 6: story I did.

2056
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 28: On Jack Grant and Jack Griffith and the football teams

2057
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 28: player personnel Department, one of my favorite stories I've ever

2058
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:58,320
Speaker 28: written at DCJ. Those two are great and they've done

2059
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 28: a great job of flipping the football since they took over.

2060
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:03,439
Speaker 28: So had a ton of sun right now, real.

2061
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Speaker 4: Real quick on that, just a brief overview because I

2062
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:10,799
Speaker 4: saw the piece. I don't think people realize the detail

2063
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:14,639
Speaker 4: that they've brought to their jobs at the University of Cincinnati.

2064
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 4: Just tease that piece a little bit for people that

2065
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 4: may not be familiar.

2066
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Speaker 28: Yeah, it's basically centered around the how they attacked the

2067
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 28: transfer portal and how they're doing it differently than other schools,

2068
01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 28: kind of like a in a moneyball aspect of if

2069
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 28: we look at the transfer portal like Georgia and Ohio

2070
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:35,479
Speaker 28: State and LSU, it's not going to be good.

2071
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 6: So we have to do something.

2072
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:40,719
Speaker 28: Differently to find a different approach. And basically their biggest

2073
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:45,600
Speaker 28: thing is time on task and watching filmy. They evaluated

2074
01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:50,760
Speaker 28: and scouted twenty two seventy eight players from the end

2075
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:53,920
Speaker 28: of the twenty twenty four season, or from the beginning

2076
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 28: of the twenty twenty four portal to the end of

2077
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 28: the twenty twenty five portal. When they took twenty one

2078
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:01,479
Speaker 28: of those players. Wow, and now two thousand Boston College

2079
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:05,760
Speaker 28: twenty two thousand. So they watched the tape and that

2080
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:09,599
Speaker 28: now you had Boston College's head coach Bill O'Brien going

2081
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:12,040
Speaker 28: in from the media and saying, yeah, the portal is

2082
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 28: really hard.

2083
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 6: You don't really know how to attack it.

2084
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 28: You don't, I mean, there's just no way to really

2085
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:18,679
Speaker 28: get a gauge for anything. And then sinc Natty sees

2086
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 28: that and says, you could just work really really hard,

2087
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:24,679
Speaker 28: and then if someone happens to go on the portal,

2088
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 28: you know that this is a guy you can attack

2089
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:27,479
Speaker 28: and watch.

2090
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 6: So that's basically the long and short of it. It

2091
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:32,760
Speaker 6: was a ton of fun. Those guys are great, and

2092
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 6: make sure you try to go read.

2093
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 3: That awesome, awesome stuff. Keegan.

2094
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 4: We're always appreciating your time, man. I look forward to

2095
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:40,760
Speaker 4: seeing you this weekend. Have a great rest of the week.

2096
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 4: Careful what you eat.

2097
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks, Sonny, I'll try.

2098
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 4: Thanks Keegan. That's Keegan nickoson Bearcat journal dot com.

2099
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,720
Speaker 3: That's cool man. How about that though, have you ever

2100
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 3: had food poisoning? Yes, it's the worst.

2101
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 4: How about twenty two thousand players in order to get

2102
01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:57,680
Speaker 4: what twenty one or twenty two of them?

2103
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:00,200
Speaker 3: That's very impressive. That's a ton of work man, and

2104
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 3: it is.

2105
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 4: It's true like you don't have the resources that the

2106
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 4: top dogs have, so the only way you're gonna do

2107
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 4: it is to work harder.

2108
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:07,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Good on them for trying to come up with

2109
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:11,680
Speaker 3: a plan that works to their advantage and you know,

2110
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 3: fits kind of their style of play. I wonder if

2111
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:18,960
Speaker 3: Nick Crawl was consolable Get crawled, Get Crawled, Maybe WHITTBA.

2112
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Speaker 4: We come back. Let's keep the ball rolling. It's Thursday.

2113
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:26,759
Speaker 4: Our friends at the University in Cincinnati and novacare always

2114
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:28,880
Speaker 4: willing to help us out talk some injury things happening

2115
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:33,080
Speaker 4: across the National Football League. Brian Growie of Novacare joins

2116
01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 4: us next on the home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen

2117
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:36,880
Speaker 4: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

2118
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Speaker 13: Welcome back.

2119
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:45,679
Speaker 4: It is since e three to sixty hour number three

2120
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Speaker 4: on a Thursday afternoon, rolling right along on ESPN fifteen

2121
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:53,439
Speaker 4: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's spend some time on the

2122
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:56,760
Speaker 4: injury front, and let's do so with a guest from

2123
01:49:56,800 --> 01:50:00,720
Speaker 4: our good friends at Novacare. Brian Growie is joining us

2124
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 4: today on behalf of Novacare and Brian, first of all,

2125
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:05,679
Speaker 4: how are you doing.

2126
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:09,519
Speaker 14: I am doing very well, Tony, Thanks for having me today.

2127
01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:13,639
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely the world of football, we are always seeing

2128
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 4: injuries throughout the game, and we saw a pretty nasty

2129
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:21,559
Speaker 4: one with the injury to Jaydeon Daniels a few games

2130
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:26,679
Speaker 4: ago and got me thinking a little bit about something

2131
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:29,840
Speaker 4: that I've went through. I've fractured my arm twice when

2132
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 4: I was at the University of Cincinnati. Let's talk a

2133
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:36,720
Speaker 4: little bit about dislocations or fractured dislocations and just what

2134
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,800
Speaker 4: that looks like to a trainer when you initially get

2135
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 4: that diagnosis.

2136
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 14: Absolutely, it's one of those injury patterns that I would

2137
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:48,640
Speaker 14: say is fodder for clickbait. It always looks gruesome, and

2138
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 14: you know, it's one of those things where you don't

2139
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:52,680
Speaker 14: want to look at it, but you also don't want

2140
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 14: to look away. When people end up injuring their joint

2141
01:50:56,479 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 14: and dislocating it, the number one thing is trying to

2142
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 14: get the joint back in place, and that's exactly what

2143
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 14: you know an athletic trainer or a physician is going

2144
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:05,600
Speaker 14: to do.

2145
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:07,919
Speaker 2: On the sideline those ones.

2146
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:11,280
Speaker 14: That are the elbow fractures and or dislocations, you know,

2147
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 14: they can come in different varieties. You can either have

2148
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Speaker 14: a dislocation or you can have a dislocation with a fracture,

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Speaker 14: and typically those are going to be the ones that

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01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 14: we discuss getting reduced and even sometimes needing surgery.

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01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 4: When you think about not only the need for surgery,

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01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:30,599
Speaker 4: but what else are you concerned with when you see

2153
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 4: a dislocation, About that not only with the fracture itself,

2154
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 4: but maybe what's.

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01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:38,840
Speaker 14: Around that you know, Tony, that's a great question in

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01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:42,480
Speaker 14: regards to injury to any extremity, especially the dislocation.

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01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 3: The first and.

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01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:46,599
Speaker 14: Foremost thing, we want to make sure that the patient

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01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:49,240
Speaker 14: has a pulse. Do they have an injury to a

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01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:52,680
Speaker 14: neurovascular structure, because we want to make sure that the

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01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 14: patient gets sent to the right place at the right time.

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01:51:58,000 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 14: Do we need to send them to the hospital. Do

2163
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 14: they have an injury to an artery? Do they have

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01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:05,120
Speaker 14: an injury to a nerve? Especially if you're traveling you know,

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01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 14: as you know with collegiing or professional athletics, those doctors

2166
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:11,680
Speaker 14: and those athletic trainers could be on the road and

2167
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:14,439
Speaker 14: they may need to send them to an outside hospital

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01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 14: to be sure that the limb is okay.

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01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 4: So with Jade and Daniels a couple of weeks ago,

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01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 4: obviously the worry is at first how gruesome it looks,

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01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 4: and then you're making sure to test the ligament damage.

2172
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:30,639
Speaker 4: And for Jadan Daniels did not have any ligament damage,

2173
01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 4: so he avoided a seizon ending injury. Obviously still going

2174
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 4: to be out quite some time. But how different of

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01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 4: a rehab process, how much more severity are you adding

2176
01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 4: if there were ligament damage around that fracture.

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01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:46,799
Speaker 14: I mean when guys dislocate their joints and have ligament damage,

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01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:50,479
Speaker 14: typically that does occur. It's those fractures that actually get

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01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:54,600
Speaker 14: a little bit more tricky in terms of idiosyncrasies associated

2181
01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:57,879
Speaker 14: with do you need surgery do you not need surgery?

2182
01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 14: But thankfully, when guys have the dislocation and do not

2183
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 14: end up with any sort of ligamentous injury that would

2184
01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:08,760
Speaker 14: affect their position. You know, because we're personalizing this with

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01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 14: everybody time and place, you know, what's your position, what

2186
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 14: do you need to do to compete? What do you

2187
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 14: need to do to compete at the highest level. But

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01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 14: I would say a good timeline associated with the dislocation

2189
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:23,560
Speaker 14: is first getting the range of motion back over the

2190
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 14: next cup, over the first few weeks, getting the swelling down,

2191
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 14: and then getting their strength back over the next few

2192
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 14: weeks after that, and typically we're looking at four to

2193
01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 14: six weeks on on most dislocations that do not require

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01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 14: surgery when.

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01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:38,720
Speaker 3: You're talking about getting back.

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01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 4: I think one of the unique things with injuries, there

2197
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 4: are some injuries that feel like you run the risk

2198
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:47,240
Speaker 4: of re injuring that same area, and there are some

2199
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:49,559
Speaker 4: injuries you're healed and you never think about it again.

2200
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 4: When you talk about a fracture, you talk about something

2201
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:56,440
Speaker 4: as we're discussing here, is there a inherent risk at

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01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 4: suffering some type of re injury at some point.

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01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:04,679
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's another great question when we look at guys

2204
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 14: that play contact sports like football, because you know, they're basically,

2205
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:11,720
Speaker 14: you know, getting into a car accident multiple times during

2206
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 14: a game, and they're putting their bodies at risk. When

2207
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:17,640
Speaker 14: we're talking about fractures, I think we usually try to

2208
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 14: dicotomize them between you know, weight bearing and non weight bearing.

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Speaker 14: You know, is it part of your extremity that you're

2210
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 14: running on or is this more a situation where it's

2211
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:31,920
Speaker 14: a smaller bone like a finger. And I think all

2212
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 14: of them run the risk of being reinjured. And then

2213
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 14: I think it just depends upon, you know, risk to

2214
01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 14: the player and what they're willing to undergo to get

2215
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 14: back onto the field. But you see it all the

2216
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 14: time and guys they break their collarbone, they go back

2217
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 14: too soon and then they rebreak it. Or we see

2218
01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 14: guys with a fibular fracture down at their foot or

2219
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:55,840
Speaker 14: ankle area and they break that and then they're back

2220
01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:58,960
Speaker 14: in six weeks and they're good to go. So we

2221
01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 14: try to personalize it again based upon sort of the

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01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 14: what the risk is and then what does that mean

2223
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:05,760
Speaker 14: if they rebreak it, does that mean then they're going.

2224
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 6: To need surgery and then they're going to be out

2225
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 6: the season. So it's a balance.

2226
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 4: I know there are some injuries that you take on

2227
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:16,800
Speaker 4: and you can maybe even play before you're back to

2228
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 4: one hundred percent. You could pad it up, you could

2229
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 4: play with some type of brace, depending on obviously where

2230
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:26,440
Speaker 4: the fracture or the dislocation would happen. Is this the

2231
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 4: type of injury that you could protect in a certain

2232
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:31,840
Speaker 4: way and get back for a quarterback, Let's let's say

2233
01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 4: a right handed quarterback that hurts his left arm, or

2234
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:38,080
Speaker 4: are you making sure it's one hundred percent healthy before

2235
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 4: you're getting back out there.

2236
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:44,760
Speaker 14: So in my opinion and in my experience, I would say,

2237
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:47,120
Speaker 14: especially with these higher level athletes, that when you get

2238
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 14: into the NFL, they want to be out there.

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01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:51,520
Speaker 6: A lot of these guys just love.

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Speaker 14: Playing the game and it's what they've dreamed of doing

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01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 14: and are really trying to be aggressive about trying to

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01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:00,120
Speaker 14: get back on the field, and even in the all

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01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:01,880
Speaker 14: the way down to the high school athletes. You know,

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01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:05,000
Speaker 14: sometimes as medical professionals, the athletic trainers and the doctors,

2245
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:08,240
Speaker 14: you know, we're protecting them from their cells, from themselves

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01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:12,760
Speaker 14: as much as anything else. In regard specifically to an

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01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,280
Speaker 14: elbow injury like that that you're describing, I would say,

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01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:18,320
Speaker 14: you know, even in the throwing arm, that would be

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01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:21,440
Speaker 14: a pretty low likelihood that you would redislocate it once

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01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:23,640
Speaker 14: it kind of heals up over the first couple of weeks.

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01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 14: So as long as they can compete in their position

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01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 14: and protect themselves out on the field, I would be

2253
01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 14: pretty bullish about getting that quarterback back onto the field.

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01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:38,680
Speaker 4: Awesome stuff, man, Brian, this was so helpful for us.

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01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:42,520
Speaker 4: We can't thank you enough for your time. We appreciate

2256
01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 4: certainly the University of Cincinnati and Novacare, and again, thank

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01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 4: you for your time. I look forward to catching up

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01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 4: again soon.

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01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:50,240
Speaker 14: Thanks, Tony.

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01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 6: Have a great day.

2261
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:55,280
Speaker 4: Absolutely that is Brian growie with our good friends at Novacare.

2262
01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 4: From traveling to the game, walking to your seats, and

2263
01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 4: partaking in postgame celebration, your body can take a bat

2264
01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:03,320
Speaker 4: from all the activity on game day at Novacare Rehabilitation.

2265
01:57:03,720 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 4: They understand how important it is for fans to be

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Speaker 4: there to root for their team. Through the power physical therapy.

2267
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Speaker 4: You don't need to let as pains or injury keep

2268
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Speaker 4: you from the game. Find a center near you at

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Speaker 4: novacare dot com. Today we're moving right along. Cinty three

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Speaker 4: sixty hour three on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 2: Station, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:35,000
Speaker 4: Welcome back Cincy three sixty thanks to Penn Station on

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01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks for listening, Thanks

2274
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 4: for being a part of our afternoon here each and

2275
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:44,600
Speaker 4: every day, Friday edition. Sad to say, Austin, we don't

2276
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 4: get Tommy G.

2277
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:51,400
Speaker 3: Tomorrow. I'm told load management, load management season for Tommy G. Tomasclaric.

2278
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 3: All right, he's earned it, all right, he's earned it.

2279
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:56,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't make fun of him. I got

2280
01:57:56,160 --> 01:57:57,920
Speaker 3: none to say it took a whole week off earlier,

2281
01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:00,520
Speaker 3: like last two weeks. I thing a couple of weeks,

2282
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 3: so now I'm paying for it. And many ways. What

2283
01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 3: else we got going on today?

2284
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:07,320
Speaker 6: Uh?

2285
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 3: In a few minutes, me to go to my notes

2286
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 3: here see what ELSEO had written.

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01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 4: What do you doing the rest of your afternoon? What's

2288
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 4: that look like? It's a nice day outside, whether you know,

2289
01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:17,200
Speaker 4: you get to enjoy a little bit of the weather.

2290
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:21,280
Speaker 3: No, okay, go down the hall and produce another show.

2291
01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:24,400
Speaker 3: Then what on another station? Then what? And then I'm

2292
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 3: gonna go home, and you know, I'll be honest. I

2293
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:30,920
Speaker 3: neglected my apartment a little bit, so that easy to

2294
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:36,840
Speaker 3: be cleaned up, okay, And after that, I just wait

2295
01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 3: for football to come on. Okay, I might play some

2296
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 3: video games. I've been playing Battlefield six with my friends.

2297
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:45,040
Speaker 3: So you're done with uh, you're done with Madden? Your

2298
01:58:45,040 --> 01:58:48,800
Speaker 3: Madden League over? Well, I'm on a bye week. Oh yeah,

2299
01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:51,960
Speaker 3: we're nine and one at the bye week. Okay, yeah, okay,

2300
01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:55,080
Speaker 3: just disposed of a couple of good teams. You know,

2301
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 3: you got to be careful when you don't address things

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01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 3: at the house for a while. Yeah, And I have

2303
01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 3: done that for I think since we moved in, basically

2304
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:05,840
Speaker 3: to where like I have a pile of clothes, Yeah

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01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:09,960
Speaker 3: that are clean, but they're just kind of laid there.

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01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, so mayor mayor has this thing since we've moved in,

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01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:20,200
Speaker 4: we just had we we we brought way too much junk.

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01:59:20,240 --> 01:59:22,840
Speaker 4: I'm kind of what they call a hoarder. Oh Mayor

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01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:28,080
Speaker 4: is not. I wish mayors not. She despises the hoarding.

2310
01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:31,160
Speaker 4: I don't throw stuff away. And I think since we

2311
01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:34,600
Speaker 4: moved into our home, Mayor has done two things. She's

2312
01:59:34,760 --> 01:59:37,520
Speaker 4: constantly looking at houses and what other houses do to

2313
01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 4: their interiors. Sure, and then like once, I would say

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01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 4: every other week for probably two years, she has texted

2315
01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:48,360
Speaker 4: me about getting a dumpster for our yard to just

2316
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:49,280
Speaker 4: throw crap away.

2317
01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:50,680
Speaker 14: And I.

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01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:55,520
Speaker 4: Finally broke down and got a dumpster. And you know

2319
01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:58,240
Speaker 4: what today is dumpster day. Oh so you got to

2320
01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:01,440
Speaker 4: clean the house out. Oh my god, I'm not looking

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02:00:01,480 --> 02:00:04,120
Speaker 4: forward to it. We have we have two main areas,

2322
02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:07,480
Speaker 4: so our basement, like our storage in the basement is

2323
02:00:07,640 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 4: full of garbage, not like food guard like just stuff

2324
02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:14,160
Speaker 4: we don't use anymore. In our garage. I'm not worried

2325
02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:16,240
Speaker 4: about the garage, but the stuff in the basement that

2326
02:00:16,280 --> 02:00:18,400
Speaker 4: you're gonna like carry up steps and out the front door,

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02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 4: I don't even I don't want to do it today.

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Speaker 3: I know that you have a nice piece of Ohio

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02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:27,600
Speaker 3: state memorabilia that might already be in the dumpster in

2330
02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:31,280
Speaker 3: your basement. Yes, that doesn't have a place on the wall.

2331
02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:33,680
Speaker 3: It doesn't. I'll take it off your hands.

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02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:38,000
Speaker 4: Okay, it might be the thing dumpster. Let this be

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02:00:38,160 --> 02:00:41,320
Speaker 4: my contribution. Okay, Well your contribution would probably be coming

2334
02:00:41,320 --> 02:00:42,400
Speaker 4: over and help load the dumpster.

2335
02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:44,960
Speaker 3: Well I have to be paid to do that. You'd

2336
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:50,640
Speaker 3: be paid with memorabilia. Oh it's bad.

2337
02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:52,520
Speaker 4: Like you send a couple of text out like family

2338
02:00:52,560 --> 02:00:54,720
Speaker 4: members and they just none of them text back. Yeah, no,

2339
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:57,080
Speaker 4: hell okay if anyone's got any time, and then it's

2340
02:00:57,160 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 4: just silence. Yeah, you don't hear a thing from anybody.

2341
02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:02,080
Speaker 4: I do have won this day in sports history?

2342
02:01:02,680 --> 02:01:05,680
Speaker 3: Are you ready for? It was on this day in

2343
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:11,480
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy oh that the Sydney Yellow Jackets completed their

2344
02:01:11,640 --> 02:01:18,120
Speaker 3: run of dominance oh thirty consecutive victories. The Yellow Jackets

2345
02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:22,360
Speaker 3: and the seniors in that class didn't lose in the

2346
02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:25,800
Speaker 3: eighth grade, so they went something like forty games in

2347
02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:30,839
Speaker 3: a row. That's crazy without loving, that is insane. So today,

2348
02:01:32,040 --> 02:01:36,760
Speaker 3: right now, Sydney Memorial Stadium thirty and oh field is

2349
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:40,400
Speaker 3: where all the games are played, named after those great teams.

2350
02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:44,960
Speaker 3: It's field. No, it's not, Yes, it is Sidney Memorial

2351
02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:47,480
Speaker 3: Stadium thirty and oh Field, Oh my gosh. And it's

2352
02:01:47,640 --> 02:01:51,520
Speaker 3: uh write this down. Oh, that's got to be a lot.

2353
02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:57,200
Speaker 3: No Sydney Stadium, Sydney Memorial thirty and oh Stadium thirty

2354
02:01:57,280 --> 02:02:02,280
Speaker 3: and oh Field, Oh, Sydney Memorial Stadium thirty and oh Field. Okay,

2355
02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:07,480
Speaker 3: what's wrong with that? Nothing? Honor the legacy, live in

2356
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:12,040
Speaker 3: the present. Man. That would never happen at Veterans Memorial Stadium. Yeah,

2357
02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:13,160
Speaker 3: you're just talking about veterans.

2358
02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:15,280
Speaker 4: Oh, we weren't talking about what the teams did and

2359
02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:19,520
Speaker 4: this and that. Just anyway, congratulations, happy anniversary, this day

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Speaker 4: in sports history.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to the Shout out to Sydney Man seventy

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Speaker 3: team who went to Sydney Memorial thirty and oh Fields. No,

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Speaker 3: Sydney Memorial Stadium at thirty and oh Field. It's like

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Speaker 3: Geha Field at Arrowhead YEP, I got it now. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna use that going forward. I don't know that

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Speaker 3: we've gotten thirty wins since nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 4: Mo is waiting to join us for Quick Hits next

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Speaker 4: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station y.

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Speaker 12: Cincinnati Mids Time for Cincy three sixty quick hits on

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Speaker 12: ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Was looking for mo. Moe's in the house.

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Speaker 4: He's getting ready for the Mo Legger Show, ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, Mo, I'm really good. I'm really good.

2375
02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:01,800
Speaker 3: How about you, guys?

2376
02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:06,160
Speaker 4: Okay, you can turn the ball, Jalen Brunson, I am

2377
02:03:06,280 --> 02:03:07,800
Speaker 4: any good reports Yet he was.

2378
02:03:08,240 --> 02:03:11,200
Speaker 7: Seen exiting Madison Square Garden wearing crutches. He should not

2379
02:03:11,280 --> 02:03:12,720
Speaker 7: have been in the game when he got hurt. They

2380
02:03:12,720 --> 02:03:15,120
Speaker 7: should have pulled him. Next those last night, first time

2381
02:03:15,200 --> 02:03:17,080
Speaker 7: at home all year long. Next have lost bulls have

2382
02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:19,600
Speaker 7: lost a lot. Yeah, Shine's coming off that a little

2383
02:03:19,600 --> 02:03:20,080
Speaker 7: bit as well.

2384
02:03:20,640 --> 02:03:23,160
Speaker 3: So nothing from you guys about my big news on LinkedIn?

2385
02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:29,600
Speaker 3: Checked LinkedIn yet? Just what happened? Are you something about

2386
02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:32,120
Speaker 3: employee of the Year something?

2387
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Speaker 22: What?

2388
02:03:33,600 --> 02:03:37,360
Speaker 7: I have been named vice president of strategic content for

2389
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Speaker 7: the Moegger Show.

2390
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Speaker 3: Really? Yeah?

2391
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Speaker 4: Who's the president? Well, we haven't figured that out yet. Okay,

2392
02:03:44,600 --> 02:03:48,360
Speaker 4: we did get a talkback from you. Oh can we

2393
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:51,960
Speaker 4: just share? Someone is going through audio clips of you.

2394
02:03:52,640 --> 02:03:54,400
Speaker 4: This is the second time he's done it and putting

2395
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:56,760
Speaker 4: together conversations and talk back for him.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear this. This is Mike and

2397
02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:09,360
Speaker 3: Independence here with talkback Mode. We pour water into our

2398
02:04:09,440 --> 02:04:11,280
Speaker 3: hands and drink it like you're in a lake or something.

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Speaker 16: Don't you have a cup?

2400
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Speaker 7: Not?

2401
02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:16,840
Speaker 3: I not now? Actual cups? What about all those cups

2402
02:04:16,840 --> 02:04:17,840
Speaker 3: in the closet.

2403
02:04:18,280 --> 02:04:19,040
Speaker 13: We have cups?

2404
02:04:20,240 --> 02:04:23,160
Speaker 7: I will I will probably not outlive our cup supply.

2405
02:04:23,400 --> 02:04:25,919
Speaker 7: That's how many cups we have. And it is glorious

2406
02:04:26,040 --> 02:04:27,920
Speaker 7: just over the sheer volume of cups. And I just

2407
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:29,240
Speaker 7: I wanted to get that out of the way.

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02:04:30,360 --> 02:04:35,960
Speaker 4: This gentleman is just randomly going through and splicing conversations

2409
02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:38,160
Speaker 4: you've had. So maybe that's your content guy.

2410
02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:40,240
Speaker 3: What's the could be? He could be the president of

2411
02:04:41,320 --> 02:04:46,480
Speaker 3: strategic content, not just content. Independence is putting time into

2412
02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:48,720
Speaker 3: this all right. We also had a talkbacker today mode

2413
02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:52,120
Speaker 3: that wanted to congratulate you for being named a finalist

2414
02:04:52,200 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 3: for the Tony Pikes iHeartMedia Employee of the Year Award.

2415
02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:57,160
Speaker 7: Well, I'm pretty I'm pretty stoked about this. We find

2416
02:04:57,200 --> 02:04:59,520
Speaker 7: out on December the third at the the Christmas party

2417
02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:00,520
Speaker 7: here if I've won the award.

2418
02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:02,840
Speaker 3: I told you yesterday. I've been nominated twice. Okay, who's

2419
02:05:02,840 --> 02:05:03,800
Speaker 3: won it the previous years?

2420
02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:09,160
Speaker 7: Oh, Ryan Seacrest won it one year and Clay Travis. Okay, yeah,

2421
02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:12,280
Speaker 7: so I'm I'm do you know against I haven't really

2422
02:05:12,440 --> 02:05:15,200
Speaker 7: seen everybody that I'm up against, but it's a it's

2423
02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:18,640
Speaker 7: a prestigious honor. They're waiting to see if the people

2424
02:05:18,680 --> 02:05:24,800
Speaker 7: who have been nominated are still work here very good,

2425
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:27,720
Speaker 7: I mean doing, guys, what you got on your show today.

2426
02:05:28,720 --> 02:05:31,600
Speaker 7: Let's see, we're gonna talk about Saturday. We were just

2427
02:05:31,680 --> 02:05:34,480
Speaker 7: having this conversation off here. You see plays b YU

2428
02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:37,880
Speaker 7: a week from Saturday. A lot of folks seemingly glossing

2429
02:05:37,960 --> 02:05:39,760
Speaker 7: over the fact that Bearcats do have a game this

2430
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:44,160
Speaker 7: Saturday against Arizona. I am worried about this game because

2431
02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:47,200
Speaker 7: I hated how the Bearcats played against Utah. Now you

2432
02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:50,520
Speaker 7: could say, well the Utes, remember bad matchup? Yeah, terrible

2433
02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:53,400
Speaker 7: match When a team loses, bad matchup, Okay, I thought

2434
02:05:53,440 --> 02:05:55,600
Speaker 7: the Bearcats got in their own way. I am concerned

2435
02:05:55,640 --> 02:05:57,480
Speaker 7: that that is going to be the norm moving forward.

2436
02:05:57,800 --> 02:05:59,800
Speaker 7: I think a lot of folks are overlooking Arizona. We're

2437
02:05:59,800 --> 02:06:02,120
Speaker 7: gonna spend some time on that. I want to know

2438
02:06:02,560 --> 02:06:08,720
Speaker 7: if al Golden can satisfy a very basic request, very

2439
02:06:09,400 --> 02:06:12,320
Speaker 7: basic and simple request. I will tell you what that

2440
02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:15,080
Speaker 7: request is, and I'm gonna see if I can get

2441
02:06:15,080 --> 02:06:16,520
Speaker 7: a job on the Reds coaching staff.

2442
02:06:16,920 --> 02:06:18,760
Speaker 3: Well, that's it's not the hardest thing to do.

2443
02:06:18,920 --> 02:06:22,120
Speaker 7: The Reds have fifteen coaches listed on their coaching staff.

2444
02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:23,720
Speaker 7: They have an assistant bench coach.

2445
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:25,000
Speaker 3: Got to use that money somewhere.

2446
02:06:25,160 --> 02:06:28,320
Speaker 7: What does the assistant is assistant bench coach like euphemism

2447
02:06:28,400 --> 02:06:32,600
Speaker 7: for bat boy? What is the assistant bench coach to

2448
02:06:33,400 --> 02:06:35,920
Speaker 7: We're paying Terry Francona like five million dollars. He's got

2449
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:39,200
Speaker 7: a bench coach. Okay, assistant bench coach? Does he keep

2450
02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:44,600
Speaker 7: book the bench the bubblegum bucket? So I hear a

2451
02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:47,200
Speaker 7: lot about job numbers and the economy is not great.

2452
02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:49,720
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what job market's really good if you're

2453
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:53,080
Speaker 7: a baseball coach anywhere near Cincinnati. So we'll riff on

2454
02:06:53,120 --> 02:06:56,440
Speaker 7: that a little bit too. Plus, uh, Lee Starling is

2455
02:06:56,520 --> 02:07:00,840
Speaker 7: gonna join us running Chad Brendle, Robert Wyan, Trump, Dan Klaskins,

2456
02:07:01,320 --> 02:07:04,400
Speaker 7: Jay Morrison, and we're going to talk about Joe Burrow

2457
02:07:04,480 --> 02:07:07,200
Speaker 7: with one of the experts from Ortho Sinsey as well.

2458
02:07:07,360 --> 02:07:09,680
Speaker 3: Okay, what do you make of the NFL wanting the

2459
02:07:09,800 --> 02:07:11,640
Speaker 3: union to stop with the report cards.

2460
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:15,920
Speaker 7: As many have speculated and said, rich people don't like

2461
02:07:16,040 --> 02:07:16,760
Speaker 7: being made fun of.

2462
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:21,240
Speaker 3: Crazy, right, yeah, crazy. If you don't want failing grades,

2463
02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:21,960
Speaker 3: don't fail.

2464
02:07:22,480 --> 02:07:24,720
Speaker 7: Right. If you don't want an F from your players,

2465
02:07:24,800 --> 02:07:26,920
Speaker 7: Woody Johnson, If you don't want an F. If you

2466
02:07:26,920 --> 02:07:29,320
Speaker 7: don't want bad grades from your players, from your coat,

2467
02:07:29,400 --> 02:07:30,680
Speaker 7: from your workers, treat them well.

2468
02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:34,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy, one oder one owner tot ESPN. The

2469
02:07:34,640 --> 02:07:36,480
Speaker 4: only owners who don't care for it are the ones

2470
02:07:36,520 --> 02:07:37,760
Speaker 4: who get the subpar grades.

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02:07:37,840 --> 02:07:38,120
Speaker 7: Correct.

2472
02:07:38,160 --> 02:07:38,960
Speaker 3: Funny how that works.

2473
02:07:39,040 --> 02:07:40,800
Speaker 4: It is interesting how that the owners told take care

2474
02:07:40,840 --> 02:07:43,480
Speaker 4: of everything, or like, yeah, fine, give the report cards exactly.

2475
02:07:43,560 --> 02:07:45,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. It could also be like a really good thing

2476
02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:49,000
Speaker 3: for them. Yeah they if they did it, like you know,

2477
02:07:49,640 --> 02:07:51,120
Speaker 3: they don't. Nobody looks at it that way.

2478
02:07:52,040 --> 02:07:56,400
Speaker 4: We also had the discussion schemes skewball when Cy Young?

2479
02:07:57,040 --> 02:07:59,200
Speaker 4: Why does major League Baseball continue to just take the

2480
02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:01,880
Speaker 4: back seat to everything, Like why not have a true

2481
02:08:01,920 --> 02:08:04,680
Speaker 4: award show? Like it's just it's always an afterthought. The

2482
02:08:04,760 --> 02:08:08,520
Speaker 4: draft is an afterthought. Everything they do just seemingly falls.

2483
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:11,040
Speaker 3: Would you watch a baseball award show?

2484
02:08:11,320 --> 02:08:14,400
Speaker 4: I think if you had, if you had Otani and

2485
02:08:14,520 --> 02:08:17,240
Speaker 4: judge and the MVP candidates in the same room. I

2486
02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:18,880
Speaker 4: would probably tune in and listen to some of it.

2487
02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:22,560
Speaker 4: What about like on a night like last night, watched.

2488
02:08:22,360 --> 02:08:24,800
Speaker 3: The Football Awards. I don't watch award show A slow

2489
02:08:24,960 --> 02:08:27,920
Speaker 3: night a Wednesday, no hoops on.

2490
02:08:29,160 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 7: I mean Major League Baseball MLB newere did do like

2491
02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:34,920
Speaker 7: an award show for those individual awards and had all

2492
02:08:34,920 --> 02:08:39,760
Speaker 7: the finalists interviewed. Would you really watch a baseball award.

2493
02:08:39,560 --> 02:08:42,120
Speaker 3: Show based on what was on last night? Probably Miami

2494
02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:44,880
Speaker 3: Toledo football. The Knicks were on. That was a bad game,

2495
02:08:45,040 --> 02:08:47,440
Speaker 3: Miami back to back MAC losses. I feel like if

2496
02:08:47,480 --> 02:08:49,600
Speaker 3: they presented it kind of like the way that the

2497
02:08:49,760 --> 02:08:52,400
Speaker 3: NFL does, where it is like a big production.

2498
02:08:52,360 --> 02:08:56,040
Speaker 7: But the everybody because everybody goes to the Super Bowl.

2499
02:08:56,600 --> 02:08:58,840
Speaker 7: Everybody's there for the Super Bowl. I know, like if

2500
02:08:58,880 --> 02:09:02,800
Speaker 7: they had either to do that Vegas and handout American

2501
02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:07,040
Speaker 7: League Young Award. Yeah, here's Olivia Rodrigo handing out the

2502
02:09:07,200 --> 02:09:10,280
Speaker 7: I don't know why. Here's Sidney Sweeney, She's got the

2503
02:09:10,440 --> 02:09:13,720
Speaker 7: Manager of the Year award. Really we want a baseball

2504
02:09:13,800 --> 02:09:14,480
Speaker 7: award show.

2505
02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:17,440
Speaker 3: It would be pretty funny to see Terry Francona accept

2506
02:09:17,480 --> 02:09:18,640
Speaker 3: an award from Sydney show.

2507
02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:22,920
Speaker 7: What d list celebrities would they jets? Here's doctor Oz.

2508
02:09:23,120 --> 02:09:26,760
Speaker 7: Doctor Oz is gonna be presenting to the National League rookie.

2509
02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:29,280
Speaker 7: That would be the level of celebrit you would get.

2510
02:09:30,120 --> 02:09:32,960
Speaker 7: You would get like these hack like you know pop

2511
02:09:33,120 --> 02:09:35,920
Speaker 7: artists from the early two thousands, right, that's what you

2512
02:09:35,960 --> 02:09:38,480
Speaker 7: would Here. Here are the guys from bb MAC a

2513
02:09:38,520 --> 02:09:43,080
Speaker 7: couple of handing out the American League MVP Award. You

2514
02:09:43,400 --> 02:09:45,960
Speaker 7: guys think there would be a baseball award show that

2515
02:09:46,120 --> 02:09:46,800
Speaker 7: anybody would?

2516
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:48,440
Speaker 3: I love baseball.

2517
02:09:49,720 --> 02:09:51,480
Speaker 7: In the middle of November, We're gonna get all these

2518
02:09:51,520 --> 02:09:54,240
Speaker 7: baseball players together in the middle of their offseason and

2519
02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:56,800
Speaker 7: get together to hand out each hand each other hardware.

2520
02:09:56,880 --> 02:09:58,880
Speaker 3: Why do they separate it out to like week to

2521
02:09:58,960 --> 02:09:59,600
Speaker 3: week to week.

2522
02:10:00,120 --> 02:10:03,600
Speaker 7: I don't know, I have, I have absolutely so sorry

2523
02:10:03,680 --> 02:10:08,080
Speaker 7: to throw cold water, never mind, never mind.

2524
02:10:08,200 --> 02:10:11,000
Speaker 3: Fight for your idea, Tony, come I did. I thought

2525
02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:11,760
Speaker 3: I'd just watch it.

2526
02:10:12,400 --> 02:10:18,120
Speaker 7: Geez, here comes Ta Leoni as she presents the National

2527
02:10:18,200 --> 02:10:20,520
Speaker 7: League Comeback Player of the Year.

2528
02:10:21,080 --> 02:10:23,680
Speaker 3: Most Valuable Player. Why do we have two m vps?

2529
02:10:24,520 --> 02:10:25,360
Speaker 3: We don't agree with that.

2530
02:10:25,440 --> 02:10:27,920
Speaker 7: We don't have we don't have Eastern Conference m v

2531
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:31,000
Speaker 7: P in the NBA, we don't have AFC m VP

2532
02:10:31,160 --> 02:10:34,080
Speaker 7: and football. It's another outdated It is an outdated thing.

2533
02:10:34,120 --> 02:10:36,320
Speaker 7: We don't really have American League and National League as

2534
02:10:36,360 --> 02:10:38,160
Speaker 7: separate entities. Why do we have two m vps?

2535
02:10:38,440 --> 02:10:38,640
Speaker 3: Good?

2536
02:10:39,440 --> 02:10:40,960
Speaker 7: But I guess if you're gonna have an award show,

2537
02:10:40,960 --> 02:10:42,640
Speaker 7: you need more. Award care do we have to come

2538
02:10:42,680 --> 02:10:44,640
Speaker 7: up with more? I guess need more? Here is the

2539
02:10:44,760 --> 02:10:47,200
Speaker 7: pinch Hitter of the Year, could sell it, could sponsor it,

2540
02:10:48,080 --> 02:10:52,680
Speaker 7: presenting the awarded from Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

2541
02:10:55,280 --> 02:10:57,360
Speaker 4: Uh, your money right now? Who you take to win

2542
02:10:57,440 --> 02:11:01,160
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl? That's a terrific and are you surprised?

2543
02:11:01,280 --> 02:11:02,920
Speaker 3: Are we allowed to do that? Locks of the Night?

2544
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:06,000
Speaker 4: Well, the odds on favor right now is Kansas City,

2545
02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:09,000
Speaker 4: not even right now and not even in the playoffs.

2546
02:11:09,040 --> 02:11:10,800
Speaker 4: They are right now the betting favorite to win the

2547
02:11:10,800 --> 02:11:11,240
Speaker 4: Super Bowl.

2548
02:11:11,400 --> 02:11:14,200
Speaker 7: La rams I said the other day win thelus seven hundred. Yeah,

2549
02:11:14,200 --> 02:11:16,040
Speaker 7: I would take LA plus seven hundred, win the whole.

2550
02:11:15,920 --> 02:11:18,120
Speaker 3: Thing, Tampa Bay plus twenty five hundred enticing.

2551
02:11:18,040 --> 02:11:21,760
Speaker 7: That's really good value. Yeah, that's really good plus getting

2552
02:11:21,760 --> 02:11:22,800
Speaker 7: a little bit healthier this week.

2553
02:11:22,840 --> 02:11:25,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. In Tampa Bay Bengals are what plus thirty thousand.

2554
02:11:25,360 --> 02:11:26,200
Speaker 3: Is that to win Sunday?

2555
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:29,480
Speaker 4: But that happened before Ol Golden was seen stretching yesterday,

2556
02:11:29,560 --> 02:11:34,480
Speaker 4: It is true. I would imagine that Plummets, burrowback, Golden stretches,

2557
02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:36,440
Speaker 4: Bengals are back in it.

2558
02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:39,280
Speaker 3: I want to mention more celebrities that your pretending Baseball

2559
02:11:39,320 --> 02:11:41,000
Speaker 3: Awards shows you got.

2560
02:11:41,880 --> 02:11:46,560
Speaker 4: Oh Moe's rocket a Baseball is Fun shirt today, trying

2561
02:11:46,600 --> 02:11:47,480
Speaker 4: to make it more fun.

2562
02:11:47,320 --> 02:11:49,640
Speaker 7: Now to present these second basement of the year in

2563
02:11:49,680 --> 02:11:53,400
Speaker 7: the National League West, it's Jenna Elfman from Darma and Greg.

2564
02:11:55,040 --> 02:11:59,600
Speaker 3: Everybody gather in Portland, Oregon for the highest ranking celebrity

2565
02:11:59,600 --> 02:12:03,400
Speaker 3: they could get, so like Ray Romano.

2566
02:12:03,560 --> 02:12:06,040
Speaker 7: Ray Romana would be like a Good or his wife

2567
02:12:06,080 --> 02:12:08,280
Speaker 7: from that show he was on. Yeah, everybody loves Rag

2568
02:12:08,400 --> 02:12:12,160
Speaker 7: Jimmy Fallon with the Yankees hat. Yeah, no, you're not

2569
02:12:12,360 --> 02:12:15,880
Speaker 7: getting a listers to come to the November Baseball Awards

2570
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:17,720
Speaker 7: show in Albuquerque or wherever they would have it.

2571
02:12:17,800 --> 02:12:20,320
Speaker 3: I bet Mary Heart would a do an award. That

2572
02:12:20,320 --> 02:12:22,200
Speaker 3: would be okay. I would be alright with that. I

2573
02:12:22,400 --> 02:12:26,440
Speaker 3: like ok Frey Good, k Frek who Kevin Fraser, Oh, Kevin.

2574
02:12:26,880 --> 02:12:30,400
Speaker 7: Former UC basketball announcer Kevin Fraser from entertainment tonight.

2575
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I'm done. I have a great show. Sorry.

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Speaker 4: In fifteen thirty, Cincinnati sports station Mullagger's next.

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Speaker 13: Have a great Thursday, So KHY Cincinnati.

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Speaker 12: Make us the number one pre set on your car

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Speaker 12: radio and on the free knew it improved, iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 12: free never sounded so good.

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Speaker 3: At ESPN fifteen thirty, more than an