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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike, Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: this is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Our number two. Welcome back or welcome in.

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Speaker 3: If this is your first time tuning in today, you

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Speaker 3: obviously know what time it is. Our guy Charlie Goldsmith

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Speaker 3: always willing to join us on Friday at one o'clock.

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Speaker 3: We are certainly excited to have him. We look forward

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Speaker 3: to it each and every week, and we do so

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Speaker 3: right now as well.

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Speaker 2: Charlie. What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing good? How about you, Charlie?

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Speaker 2: I am, I'm fantastic.

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Speaker 3: We talked earlier in the show today about a conversation

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Speaker 3: I heard earlier today about which quarterback was under more

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Speaker 3: pressure to win a Super Bowl? Is it Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: or is it Lamar Jackson? And my first initial thought was,

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Speaker 3: I think Joe Burrow should be on that list as well.

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Speaker 3: They made the deal that they got Chase Jamar Chase T.

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Speaker 3: Higgins under contract. They chose continuity, so you're not talking

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Speaker 3: about a quarterback with a new coaching staff or system

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Speaker 3: coming in when we talk about next season in the

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Speaker 3: AFC and the hierarchy of quarterbacks. Should Joe Burrow be

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Speaker 3: on that list of players that feel like they have

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Speaker 3: pressure to win the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 4: If we're talking about like quarterback pantheon ranking being a

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Speaker 4: driving force of what creates pressure, I would still have

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Speaker 4: Burrow third on that list because the difference is is

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Speaker 4: that we've seen a lot of examples of Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: not being good enough in the playoffs. We've seen a

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Speaker 4: lot of examples about Lamar Jackson not being good enough

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Speaker 4: in the playoffs, and a big part of the stories

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Speaker 4: of each of them has been Lamar and Josh not

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Speaker 4: necessarily meeting the moment or making mistakes in massive moments.

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Speaker 4: Just look at, you know, the builds against the Jaguars.

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen rightfully so put that game on himself. So

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Speaker 4: to me, the fact that Burrow has consistently been great

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Speaker 4: in the playoffs and transcended some of the worst offensive

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Speaker 4: line players I'll ever see, that makes me feel like

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Speaker 4: individually he has less pressure. But yes, the Bengals is

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Speaker 4: a team they theoretically should be set up to do

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Speaker 4: more next year, so theoretically there'd be more pressure on

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Speaker 3: The off season, and we've talked kind of about the

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Speaker 3: priorities and what avenues to attack and when to attack them.

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Speaker 3: But something that you and Joe Daniman discussed on a

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Speaker 3: gold standard eliminating distractions. How how do you quantify how

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Speaker 3: do you put into words what distractions in past off

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Speaker 3: seasons and regardless of what they are, how they came about.

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Speaker 3: How much do distractions get in the way of the

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Speaker 3: off season In the NFL?

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Speaker 4: It felt like, and we've seen it on the defensive

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Speaker 4: line with Trey and I think there's always been like

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Speaker 4: a defensive tackle heard as well, you know shamal ug

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Speaker 4: Got last year. It's felt like I even't seen the

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Speaker 4: Bengals starting defensive line, the four guys together on the

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Speaker 4: field next to each other in OTAs like forever. The continuity,

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Speaker 4: the ability to have everyone out there, specifically with where

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Speaker 4: the Bengals are at now, because what I feel very

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Speaker 4: strongly the Bengals need is kind of their established young

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Speaker 4: Chase Brown on offense, Miles Murphy, Jordan Battle. They need

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Speaker 4: to make this team kind of their own and taking

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Speaker 4: that ownership from a leadership standpoint and bringing others along

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Speaker 4: field as well. It's really important to me that you're

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Speaker 4: able to see that and develop that throughout the offseason.

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Speaker 4: So it's not just avoiding distractions, it's start finding solutions.

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Speaker 4: And you can only really find those solutions on the

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Trey Hendrickson was one of those distractions. Trey Hendrickson,

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Speaker 3: by many accounts, listed as the top available free agent

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Speaker 3: in the National Football League. What are the options that

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Speaker 3: you've or see if any, that the Cincinnati Bengals have

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Speaker 4: The defining questions of the off season. I put it

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Speaker 4: like this. I remember on locker clean out day talking

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Speaker 4: there's the prime corner locker which had been Trey Henderson's

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Speaker 4: And my question was, is Miles next year going to

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Speaker 4: someone who gets that locker and Min Murphy stays in

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Speaker 4: the locker that he's currently in. Like obviously the lockers

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Speaker 4: don't matter, but it's the concept in the theory of

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Speaker 4: they make this Murphy lad room that they compliment in

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Speaker 4: platoon and draft to seek upside and try to build

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Speaker 4: some more depth in as well whether or not they

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Speaker 4: should get a defensive end one or a defensive end two.

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Speaker 4: To me, he's one of the defining questions of the

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Speaker 4: off season. I go back and forth it with fourth

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Speaker 4: that lets you kind of do the whole twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: certainly talk me into Ana or kind of someone in

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Speaker 5: Do you think you could apply that same logic to

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Speaker 5: the cornerbacks? And I know that they've kind of talked

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Speaker 5: the leader in that room. Do you think that same

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Speaker 5: logic could be applied to that room.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like the way I look at it too. And

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Speaker 4: obviously this is burrowed Chase and Higgins's team, but they're

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Speaker 4: on such a different level that, like their experience is

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Speaker 4: almost different than everyone else's experience. If I'm you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm looking towards you'se all right? Like DJ Turner, that's

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Speaker 4: the past, Chase Brown, that's the past. Dax Hill as well.

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Speaker 4: Just yes, he was a first round pick, but you know,

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Speaker 4: we all know the twists and turns that his career

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Speaker 4: took earlier in his early in his career. But like DJA,

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Speaker 4: especially like being on the bench, he found the meditation

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Speaker 4: that worked for him. He developed his routine, he developed

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Speaker 4: his confidence. He turned literal weaknesses on the field into

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Speaker 4: that's a much easier pitch for a young guy to

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Speaker 4: buy into and follow through with. If these are guys

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Speaker 4: you've paid because with those contracts comes some credibility and

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Speaker 4: recognition as well, so all of that I see helping

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Speaker 3: So earlier in the week, in a conversation with Ben

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Speaker 3: an extension and to tie that in with what we

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Speaker 3: talked about at the top here Charlie of eliminating distractions,

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Speaker 3: how far would that go for the Bengals? One of

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Speaker 3: my things in the offseason, you know, of the to

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Speaker 3: early and then shift all your focus of the main

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Speaker 3: How important would that be?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know we've been having for several years,

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Speaker 4: will continue to have the debate should you pay a

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Speaker 4: running back for a Bengals perspective? Like I think we

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Speaker 4: all like the idea of protecting Joe Burrow and being

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Speaker 4: more balanced and protecting the offensive line by not having

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Speaker 4: them drop back in shotgun million times. You see that

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Speaker 4: value in the run game. Plus, what the Bengals offense

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Speaker 4: needs more of the most is explosiveness and aside from

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Speaker 4: Jamar Chase, Chase Brown and featuring him more is kind

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Speaker 4: the stuff I said about you know, DJ Turner and

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Speaker 4: Dax like Chase Brown is certainly a part of it.

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Speaker 4: Be like that guy, do what he did and good

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Speaker 4: things will happen you. We will reward you. You set

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Speaker 4: that precedent by rewarding guys like Chase Brown. He makes

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Speaker 4: your team so much better culturally and on the field.

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Speaker 4: From an x than those perspectives, I would argue that

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Speaker 4: through twenty twenty two, the Joe Mixing contract was a

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Speaker 4: significant success in Cincinnati, and even in twenty twenty three

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Speaker 4: he was on a take cut, the offense was still

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Speaker 4: really good. Like I think extending Joe mix In a

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Speaker 4: few years ago is the right move, and then they

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Speaker 4: right moves anymore. So for all those reasons, I'm for

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Speaker 4: extending Chase Brown. And the earlier you do it, we

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Speaker 4: see it with every team throughout the league, the more

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Speaker 4: flexibility and whi the room it gives you as a whole.

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Speaker 3: How many mock drafts will you yourself come up with? Maybe

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Speaker 3: between now and the draft, Oh, Wow.

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Speaker 4: I do like that they're at ten because it's very

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Speaker 4: clean like and also there's just such clear information about

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Speaker 4: like the top fifteam in the draft in a way

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Speaker 4: you're like pick twenty nine, not probably not as many

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Speaker 4: Like I'm sure I'll just keep circling back to the

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Speaker 4: same five guys like Downs, Bailey, Baine Woods styles. Maybe

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Speaker 4: I'm missing one or two. Like to me, it's less

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Speaker 4: mock draft driven and more all right, let's make sure

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Speaker 4: I understand those five guys as well as possible by

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Speaker 3: I want to switch gears for a few minutes and

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Speaker 3: talk about the Cincinnati Reds. Obviously spring training rapidly approaching,

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Speaker 3: and we heard last week the idea of, you know,

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Speaker 3: the Reds have some interest in Austin Hayes or Iohanneosuarez,

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Speaker 3: but kind of waiting out what the TV deal looks like.

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Speaker 3: this point, does Suarez even make sense with kind of

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Speaker 3: who he is. He's not a great fielder, He's he's

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Speaker 3: gonna hit home runs, but the strikeout is, is a

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Speaker 3: guy like Suarez, in your opinion, does he fit into

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Speaker 4: I want to clarify something. The Reds are trying to

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Speaker 4: hit more homers this year. I talked to this guy,

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Speaker 4: and I know, like there are different Christal Laker quotes

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Speaker 4: off season strategical plans that they've developed for most of

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Speaker 4: why Matt McClain's added like ten pounds or something and

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Speaker 4: he plans to drive the ball more. I haven't confirmed

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Speaker 4: kind of sell out for power swings. They're committing to

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Speaker 4: playing South Stewart. That's a power driven decision. All of

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Speaker 4: these are developmental focus. I don't expect them to. I

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Speaker 4: guess they theoretically could with a guy like Suarez, but

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Speaker 4: they would Power isn't necessarily the first thing that they'll

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Speaker 4: prioritize when they add a free agency but if the

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Speaker 4: he's not as in pursuit as a lot of projections

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Speaker 4: if you get him for the right price, that makes

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Speaker 4: it much easier to pigeonhole him. Is just a full

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Speaker 4: Buyers out all these things going on, so not, but

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Speaker 2: Just roll the ball out there and see what happens.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 3: Charlie Goldsmith always always appreciate your time. What is the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Charlie's shockboard on substack and on Fox nineteen. And

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Speaker 4: let me do one more thing. Happy birthday to my

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Speaker 2: Wow, when's his birthday?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 2: What's his name? Coleman? Coleman, Happy birthday. That's awesome. Oh,

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Speaker 2: thank you for giving us.

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Speaker 3: Charlie Coleman shares his birthday this year with the Royal Rumble.

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Speaker 3: Who you like to win the Royal Rumble Charlie, Oh boy,

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Speaker 3: Coleman Coleman, surprise surprise entrant. That is Charlie Goldsmith and honestly,

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Speaker 3: happy birthday to your dad as well. Yeah, and we

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Speaker 2: Charlie.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys.

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Speaker 3: That is Charlie Goldsmith Coleman. Happy birthday, call, Happy birthday Coleman.

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Speaker 3: A good luck, great name in Saudi Arabia in the

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