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Speaker 1: Very excited about that. Ben Hi, how's it go. It

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Speaker 2: It is uh, you know, a couple of days away

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Speaker 2: We're at Brandon Jones joining us here in about five minutes.

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Speaker 2: Look forward to chatting with the Broncos starting safety. The

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Speaker 2: Bronco is getting a little healthier. Just great news. Drake

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Speaker 1: So we're good to go al Pal, you know.

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Speaker 2: And we got into that conversation yesterday about Polchowski and

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Speaker 2: if you're going with your best five, he's your best five.

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Speaker 3: But you had previously made him the right side guy, right,

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Speaker 3: and I love it everybody with the tackle eligible stuff.

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Speaker 3: That's all fun. But you praise man on the right

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Speaker 3: You no, all right, we're going with alt Pal so so.

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Speaker 2: Oh It's just one of those things like we kind

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Speaker 2: It just was something like you said, Sean, up to

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Speaker 2: this point has been like, well, some guys we have

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Speaker 2: And so now you wonder who's gonna be your jumble

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Speaker 1: I got like four werewolves in that. Yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 4: I mean, and even the guys that are not you know,

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Speaker 4: it's going to be a challenge. It's something that you know,

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Speaker 4: But we got good players too, and you know it'll

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Speaker 2: I hope it's a good players coach, My goodness, you

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Speaker 2: you fellatly were just a little slow things down and

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Speaker 2: And now one thing, if it was still that pairt

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Giants are going to attack this pretty smart.

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Speaker 3: And so you know, enough pluses and you get a

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Speaker 3: That's what it is. And it's a process grade, not

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Speaker 1: You're just having a gas.

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Speaker 3: Well, with all due respect to our friends who work

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Speaker 1: Well, there are valuable products that they have.

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Speaker 3: Some of the things that they have about you know,

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Speaker 1: That players are finally pushing back on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, JJ Watt going off on it. It's pretty funny.

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Speaker 2: Dave had a nice little rant yesterday about it as well.

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Speaker 2: Jones going to join us in a little bit, But

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Speaker 2: we are going to talk not only just about the

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Speaker 2: A lot of discussion today about bow Nix and playing

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Speaker 3: And we all know John Cooper man, he's not to

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Speaker 3: Cooper's just basically saying, Okay, we see they've got Sezil.

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Speaker 3: Some state behind that. That's basically what Coop is saying.

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Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me a little where Broncos fans

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Speaker 1: And then here you have Jonathan Cooper just making a comment.

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Speaker 2: He's just talking matter of factly about Jackson Dard's like, hey,

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Speaker 3: What he's saying, like you know, like the subtext of

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Speaker 3: what he's saying, he's, yeah, we seen him.

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Speaker 1: He's up front. He's like we saw him a national TV.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're up there, they're energetic, they're having fun,

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Speaker 1: And that's that's ultimately the point.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think I don't have a problem with that.

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Speaker 2: why are you giving the bulletin boardbonaries. He's really not dude,

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Speaker 2: this is Coop like, he's.

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Speaker 1: Not that guy.

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Speaker 3: This guy was brought in as the calming influence for

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Speaker 3: If there's anybody who doesn't give you bulletin board material,

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Speaker 2: Now all let's head out to the Kai Comma Spirit

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Speaker 2: you know, with Ryan Ewards and Benjamin Olbright, how are

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Speaker 1: We're doing great. We're just talking about Jackson Darty.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I definitely see a lot of confidence. They're playing

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Speaker 6: I think he's averaging fifty yards rusting each game that

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Speaker 3: You know, way that he runs a little bit different

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Speaker 6: Yeah, basically just playing the same way we play anybody else.

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Speaker 3: You know, there are the Giants are without obviously elite

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Speaker 1: He's Slaton been hurt, but they still got some.

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Speaker 6: going to run their stuff. It's one of those type

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Brent Jones joining us here. Last couple here

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Speaker 6: Yeah, one thing with DJ is who's going to be

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Speaker 6: they actually gave me half a sack because I've been

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I'm not gonna plain and at all. You know,

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Speaker 6: Let's just let's just just let me have it and

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Speaker 6: next time I'll I get a sack. I gee, half

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Speaker 2: That's awesome, last last one here from from me anyways.

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Speaker 1: No, it's incredible.

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Speaker 2: I got actually one more quick one on Telenohufanga who

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Speaker 6: Oh, it's been awesome. Man. He's, like I said multiple times,

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Speaker 2: Brandon, really appreciate the time. Been fun watching this streak

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Speaker 1: Look forward to seeing what you guys do on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: no listen, man, he was there. And he's right though,

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if that's written into your

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Speaker 3: Absolutely most of them have some sort of you know, performance

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's a Yeah, Brandon had to play

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Speaker 2: dealing with some injury stuff, and of course Jake one

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Speaker 2: McMillan had a couple of tough moments late, so did

438
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Speaker 2: Riley Moss coming back from injury. It's amazing what your

439
00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,640
Speaker 2: team can do when they are relatively healthy. I'm very

440
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Speaker 2: excited to see what Drake green Law can bring to

441
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Speaker 2: this defense.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if he's a go this week.

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Speaker 3: The plan was always to give him a physical and

444
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Speaker 3: practice him this week and then kind of make a

445
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Speaker 3: sort of a game time decision on that. Uh So

446
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Speaker 3: we'll see if he plays this week. Don't don't get

447
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Speaker 3: too bad out of shape if if he does. If

448
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Speaker 3: he does.

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Speaker 1: Get to play, he'll be out of pitch count this week. Okay, Well,

450
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Speaker 1: I mean that's that's just being smart.

451
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Speaker 3: If he does, and then again that's a big if.

452
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Speaker 3: The goal was always, like I said, ramp him up

453
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Speaker 3: and practice this week and we'll see and then have

454
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Speaker 3: him out there, you know, for for Dallas. So, Dave

455
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Speaker 3: seemed pretty optimistic that he was gonna I'm just saying

456
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that he waltz. I'm just saying, like,

457
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Speaker 3: you end up being wrong so many Yeah, so you

458
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Speaker 3: know he believed. You look at the internet you would

459
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Speaker 3: believe that too.

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Speaker 2: But I do want to specify talking about Jackson Dart

461
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Speaker 2: and that offense because they are fun and then of

462
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Speaker 2: course the defensive.

463
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Speaker 1: Side of the ball too. I mean that the Giants.

464
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Speaker 1: Giants are not They're not a pushover team.

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Speaker 2: I would have been interesting to approach this game if

466
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Speaker 2: it was your guy Russell Wilson in there, like that

467
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Speaker 2: would have been an interesting discussion and debate on what

468
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Speaker 2: they are. And I'd even include if Malige Neighbors was

469
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Speaker 2: still playing in this game, like what I think about

470
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Speaker 2: that offense would be different with those things. They're playing

471
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Speaker 2: with a lot of confidence. That's very exciting. I don't know,

472
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Speaker 2: I got I got into it with some Giants fans

473
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Speaker 2: today because I wasn't defending Coop and what he said,

474
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Speaker 2: but I just was sort of pointing after this was

475
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Speaker 2: like nothing like what he said really was nothing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was so some of the other things that

477
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Speaker 3: people said, like when was it Simon Jeff Simmons said

478
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Speaker 3: something about Bow in week one and everybody here, what

479
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Speaker 3: a popalyptic to go to go defend Bow.

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Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying, Like, that's what happens is

481
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Speaker 2: is it becomes one of those deals where dark quarterback,

482
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Speaker 2: you're on Twitter, you've been down so long that you

483
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Speaker 2: get extra defensive and one of the Giants fans even

484
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Speaker 2: said that, like, I'm only doing this in part because

485
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Speaker 2: we have had it so bad. We finally have some hope,

486
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Speaker 2: and here are Broncos fans out here telling us that

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Speaker 2: our team sucks or that our guy is just a

488
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Speaker 2: laughing stock. And it's like, no, I don't think that's

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Speaker 2: the case at all. I think Jackson Dark can play.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if his style, in that style of

491
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Speaker 2: offense is sustainable for very long. I spent my complaint

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Speaker 2: the entire time. It's like, with both those guys, what

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Speaker 2: do you mean, what.

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Speaker 1: Do you mean that?

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Speaker 3: What do you mean they've been down bad? You don't

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Speaker 3: remember the game. From twenty twenty two, Davis web started

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Speaker 2: Heal text line. So, uh yeah, I do want to talk.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a lot about the Broncos in this matchup.

512
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Speaker 2: By the way, Rick Lewis is going to join us

513
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Speaker 2: at four o'clock. It is Camp Scataboo week and Dave

514
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 2: I celebrates the whole week's catalog, so it'll be interesting.

515
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Speaker 2: Dave yesterday was like, you need to remind him that

516
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Speaker 2: he calls games for the Broncos, that he can't fanboy out.

517
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Speaker 3: How excited is he like a Camp Scattabule, like like

518
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Speaker 3: breaks anything, Like Rick's going to be cheering in the

519
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Speaker 3: booth on the Broncos broadcast, So we need.

520
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Speaker 2: To gently gently because Rick is the best, remind him

521
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Speaker 2: that we got to.

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Speaker 1: Get a Scatibo shock collar for Rick Lewis every time

523
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Speaker 1: he says Scataboo.

524
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Speaker 2: Now, we's got to find another way to talk. About

525
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Speaker 2: camps Scattaboo without actually saying stay sounded nice, Anthony, it's

526
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Speaker 2: just scout a bowl.

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Speaker 1: Nice. That's good. It's good to like what you did there.

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Speaker 2: But before we get back into this, you've been kind

529
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Speaker 2: of ear to the ground on a lot of the

530
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Speaker 2: trade rumblings around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Now again, we have articles.

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Speaker 2: There's an article today saying the Broncos should go get

533
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Speaker 2: Taysom Hill.

534
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Speaker 3: I'm sure there's plenty of the Broncos should go get articles, but.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, and they're all all like to the

536
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Speaker 2: Saints basically, yeah, but for Saints players on expiring contracts,

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Speaker 2: write an article doc gift.

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Speaker 1: So we're not doing that.

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Speaker 2: But I do want to pick your brain on a

540
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Speaker 2: few of the rumblings out there. And I'm seeing a

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Speaker 2: lot of heats on Jalen Waddle's name. What's going on there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I sent you a text I think last night last night. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm an old. That was fairly early, oclock. I felt

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Speaker 3: I felt emboldened enough to be able to send you

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Speaker 3: a text at that hour.

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Speaker 1: No, I know and o'clock no, I said, ten Oka. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was like, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a difficult deal, man, I get I get home,

550
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Speaker 2: you know, we get home after the show, and why

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Speaker 2: down for a couple of hours.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I think about good, Daddy's going to bed.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm going to bed tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, part of it is, you know, you don't

556
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Speaker 2: even care. But part of the we have these cats

557
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Speaker 2: that wake me up at five o'clock.

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Speaker 1: In the morning.

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Speaker 2: Its way, don't get cats every day? So why don't

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Speaker 2: have cats every day? Like I tell them, hey tomorrow,

561
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Speaker 2: no better tomorrow. I don't have to get up early,

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Speaker 2: so please dog with no better?

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't. Well that's not true, Yeah it is.

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Speaker 1: You train the dog.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, So you texted me like sid fifteen last night.

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Speaker 2: I absolute should have been awake, but it was not.

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Speaker 2: And you said this, Jaalen Wattle. Stuff is heating up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The Dolphins hadn't been willing to engage in discussions up

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Speaker 3: until earlier this week, and now all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: they are, and that thing's heating up.

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Speaker 1: I would not be surprised to see wind up with

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants.

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Speaker 3: Not before the game. I don't think against the Broncos,

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Speaker 3: and certainly wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Play in that game. But I would not.

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Speaker 3: Be surprised to see him wind up with the Giants.

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Speaker 3: They got a need for receiver. Uh, he can he

579
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Speaker 3: can kind of play the X right now while while

580
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Speaker 3: Neighbors is out this year, and then shift over to

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Speaker 3: a slot Z, to a slot or Z next year.

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Speaker 3: Next year they probably won't have Wandell Robinson there. Uh,

583
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Speaker 3: he'll probably leave to go to Jacksonville. So Joe Waddell

584
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Speaker 3: has utility beyond this year. He could be your guy

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Speaker 3: this year and then has utility beyond this year. And

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Speaker 3: I think it's a good match. I think it's a

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Speaker 3: good fit, uh to have him and and and a

588
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Speaker 3: elite neighbors out there at the same time. And so

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Speaker 3: you know, I think I keep your eye on that.

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Speaker 3: The Dolphins asking price been a little bit high. Uh,

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Speaker 3: And the Giants of course are down some picks and

592
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Speaker 3: everything to move up for Jackson Dart and all that.

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Speaker 3: But I would not be surprised. They feel pretty confident

594
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Speaker 3: they can get that done. You like, maybe he's a

595
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Speaker 3: fire sale right now by the way too. Yeah, So

596
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Speaker 3: what else and Wells has happened with Miami? Oh, they're

597
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Speaker 3: shopping Jalen Phillips. They're shopping Bradley Chubb, our old our

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Speaker 3: old edge rusher. There they are. They are at a

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Speaker 3: fire sale. They that team had a playoff mandate. They

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Speaker 3: know they're not cana baked. They're they're getting ready to

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Speaker 3: fire sale after they lose this week. They're gonna fire sale.

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Speaker 3: What's going for Hendrickson? He's not playing tonight. Uh, that

603
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Speaker 3: one's I think that's a part of that there that

604
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Speaker 3: was heating up too. There's several teams that have been involved.

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Speaker 3: The Niners were the big one early, although they may

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Speaker 3: have pivoted with the Fred Warner situation. They've got to

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Speaker 3: get additional coverage and they've got some things they've got

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Speaker 3: to figure out there. There's some other teams out there.

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville had called about Trey Henderson. There's there's several teams

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Speaker 3: that are looking for adding that type of edge rusher

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Speaker 3: to what they do. Philly heavily involved there too. Be

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Speaker 3: careful on that one. It's where with the Alvin Kamara stuff.

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Speaker 3: By the way, So there's been a bunch of teams

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Speaker 3: that have called about that. You've seen the Chiefs, the Chargers,

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Speaker 3: the Patriots who are also interested Rashid Shaheed.

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Speaker 1: There have been.

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Speaker 3: Several teams out there that have called about about those guys.

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Speaker 3: From what I understand, Alma Kamara really really does not

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Speaker 3: want to be traded, despite the fact that.

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Speaker 1: The Saints are not really a competitor. The show, well,

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Speaker 1: they played some teams fairly tough.

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Speaker 3: He does not want to be moved, from what I understand,

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Speaker 3: and so I think those teams, like the Charterers, Chiefs,

624
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Speaker 3: those guys have kind of pivoted to looking and see

625
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 3: if they can get Breece Hall off the Jets, and

626
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Speaker 3: I suspect that the Breece Hale thing is probably more

627
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Speaker 3: eminent than anything with Alvin Kamara.

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Speaker 2: Now, historically it's funny around the NFL trade deadline, with

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Speaker 2: the exception of last year. Most of the time it's

630
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Speaker 2: a lot of talk and not really much happening. But

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Speaker 2: last year was a very busy trade deadline. Think this

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Speaker 2: one's going to be fairly busy as I was.

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Speaker 3: I believe that there are going to be three deals

634
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Speaker 3: done for sure, and probably some more beyond that.

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Speaker 1: And I guess you get to a point because we're

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: A week or so, a week and half away from

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Speaker 2: the actual trade deadline. I guess you kind of gets

639
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Speaker 2: because after Week eight, so I guess you get to

640
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Speaker 2: a point where you don't want these guys playing anymore. Right,

641
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Speaker 2: The last thing you want is Jalen Wattle coming up

642
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Speaker 2: with a hamstring injury on Sunday in a game against

643
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Speaker 2: Cleveland when you don't even need him out there, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're one in five team. Same thing with

645
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns. I mean, it's gonna be terrible weather.

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Speaker 2: You just don't want him coming up with something. Trey

647
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: Hendrickson was supposed to play tonight, now looks like he's

648
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: not going to That's, of course stirring up some of

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Speaker 2: the rumors out there on what's going on behind the

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Speaker 2: scenes with Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you get You get a point

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Speaker 1: with some of these guys.

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Speaker 2: You recognize what your season is and time to play

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Speaker 2: some of the younger players already. And I know it's

655
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Speaker 2: sometimes tough to sell to a fan base that has expectations.

656
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: Certainly Miami that fan base had expectations of the bounce

657
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 2: back season. Again, I talked to the people on the

658
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 2: coaching staff down there before the season, They're like, oh,

659
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Speaker 2: we got this.

660
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 3: We may not pass Buffalo this year, but we're gonna

661
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 3: finish second the division we're gonna be and man I

662
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 3: bought I bought it. To my detriment, they have not

663
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: looked good this year and it continues to be a

664
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 3: situation where Mike McDaniel is a very smart football mind,

665
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 3: but it's just not prepared for top level leadership at

666
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: this point, He's just he's just not not prepared for

667
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 3: that kind of leadership role.

668
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: On the Kaoe commispirital text line five six six nine

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Speaker 2: zero O good lord Tweedlede and TWEEDL Dummer and are today?

670
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: What happened to Rick lewis Well? Rick's coming on at

671
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: four o'clock? Am I tweeled deer? You?

672
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 6: Yeah?

673
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: Who's tweeled umb in this situation? Mmmm? We're gonna have

674
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: to figure that out. You know, we'll get to pull

675
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: to you in here, we'll break it in half, and

676
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: you know we'll go.

677
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Speaker 3: Does that make us like the two vultures from the

678
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: Robin Hood cartoon?

679
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I'm gonna callge you natsy.

680
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 6: We got that.

681
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: There's a reference for you, we got that.

682
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: Uh, clearly the Broncos need some cores, like.

683
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: With them, you don't get that one. I don't either.

684
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 3: All right, you guys keep wet blanket. Who does this

685
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: guy know your mother? Where would you be without your haters?

686
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 6: Like?

687
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: What would what would your personality even be? I think

688
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: I keep starting them up.

689
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: I know, I'm trying to imagine you without the haters

690
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: to lean into, and it you just sound kind of boring,

691
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: like there would be there'd be no talking about style

692
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: versus substance.

693
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there would even be Sizzle would just be a cold,

694
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Speaker 3: uncooked steak.

695
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Speaker 1: He's strutting around and like, why are you strutting around?

696
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: It's weird. I'm a cold and NATSI. I can't tell

697
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: if that's from the movie or that was me. You know,

698
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Speaker 1: it's a good impression.

699
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: Side by side. It's it's just pretty remarkable. All right,

700
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: we'll come back. I do want to get back into

701
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: the Broncos and the Giant. Thank you for the update

702
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: on some of the happenings.

703
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: Around the league. One thing real quick to keep your

704
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: eye on. Okay, Cincinnati Bengals get blown out tonight. They

705
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: could be the beginning of the end for Zach Taylor.

706
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Speaker 3: Could be the beginning of the.

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Speaker 7: Beginning for Vance Joseph fascinating, fascinating, all right, good stuff,

708
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 7: A big Buffalo music scene, my buddy.

709
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Speaker 3: When Johnny Resnick and Robbie Tacket get on the guitars together,

710
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: and Robbie Tackick the original vocalist for the Oodols, and

711
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 3: if you listen to any songs that he sings on

712
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: any of their CDs, you realize why he's the former vocalist.

713
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: And nuts Carol One, you meane the.

714
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 3: Guys saying long way down that guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were a punk band originally, and when name

717
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: came out, which you know, could was what broke them

718
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: as you know, the big hit or whatever. Everybody in

719
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Speaker 3: Buffalo's and the punk scene were called them sellouts and

720
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Speaker 3: everything else.

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Speaker 1: I just think they were buying in.

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00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure were we on the air, I didn't way.

723
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Speaker 6: Down the same.

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Speaker 1: Thanks you. Oh, I wasn't gonna say anything till the break.

725
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Speaker 1: By the way, we own apology to one specific listener.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, got us both, got us both, and and

727
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Speaker 2: it I own this.

728
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Speaker 1: I was wrong. You were wrong. Oh I. That's what's

729
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: wrong is that I didn't get the reference.

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Speaker 3: Core's light Silver bullets for wear wolves, so disappointed in

731
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Speaker 3: both of us. Yeah, that's three you were you were,

732
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Speaker 3: you were dead spot on.

733
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Speaker 1: And we flubbed that. That's on us.

734
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Speaker 2: So that would be pretty awesome if the offensive lineman

735
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Speaker 2: all walked up cracked what opened? I think that works

736
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: on so many levels. I know, right, but it would

737
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Speaker 2: go over everybody's head and it would be clever.

738
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Speaker 3: I'd be great, it would be great, and Joe Lobardi'd

739
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: be like, that's that's mine.

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Speaker 1: That's my team. It'll lie five six nights zero is

741
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Speaker 1: a Kia common spirit.

742
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: I'll text line Rick lewis joining us here in a

743
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: couple of moments. The I want to spend some more

744
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: time on this later.

745
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: But the tempo stuff, Yeah, what's your take on that?

746
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: And I will get to the specific stat that our

747
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: guy Nick cosmight have put out there.

748
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Speaker 1: I mean, like, I wish they would do it more.

749
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Speaker 3: I've been saying that for years since Uh who was

750
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: the head coach when I first started banging that drum?

751
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Speaker 1: Was it advance? Yes? I believe that that was the case.

752
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: Like, you're in altitude, why wouldn't you go up tempo?

753
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: Especially when you get a first down? Why wouldn't you

754
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: go up tempo and try to put your opponent on

755
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: their heels when you're up at altitude.

756
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Speaker 2: There's some layers to this whole conversation, but this is

757
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: what Nick Cosmeyer had in his article. Denver through six games,

758
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: ranks eight and expected points added per snap when operating

759
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Speaker 2: without a huddle. According to Shrue Media, the sample size

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Speaker 2: is small, only thirty nine plays. That's compared to the

761
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: two hundred and seventeen no huddle snaps.

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Speaker 1: The Washington Commanders.

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00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 6: Have run.

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Speaker 2: Yikes, and you know what, you watch that offense because

765
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Speaker 2: I said this like two days ago. I said, when

766
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: they when they're operating, it just looks like it's easy.

767
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: It looks like it's very natural for everybody out there

768
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: on the field to do what they're doing. And you

769
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: know why, it's because they're doing what helps their quarterback.

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Speaker 2: They're doing what helps the functionality of the players on

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Speaker 2: the field.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I.

773
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Speaker 2: Don't want to give you more fuel to your Sean

774
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: Payton stuff because it's not given me fuel.

775
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 3: Everybody sees it for what it is now, or at

776
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Speaker 3: least people are coming around.

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't make any sense really, because Shawn said

778
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Speaker 2: the other day. Well, you know, hey, Bo likes running

779
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: a tempo, but I can't always let him have it.

780
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: Why he and he said, because sometimes the defense needs

781
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Speaker 2: to rest.

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Speaker 1: And so I mean, you.

783
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: Don't have to snap the ball with it at fifteen

784
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: seconds on the clock, just get.

785
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Speaker 1: To the line.

786
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 2: But you know what it feels like to me, It

787
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: feels like, well, I don't want to run with tempo

788
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: because then I can't substitute in all.

789
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: The different packages I want to see. There it is,

790
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: That's what it feels like. That's what it is. And

791
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: so I do my offense the way I want to

792
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: do it. Yes, And so when at a time it.

793
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: Didn't click for me because it was more of like, well,

794
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: why would you do that? Why would you not give

795
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: your quarterback what he needs and what he's more successful.

796
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: You're the eighth best in the eighth best offense in

797
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: the NFL when you run tempo. And yet if we

798
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: watch the Broncos offense, nobody's mistaking this for a top

799
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: ten offense right now at all.

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Speaker 1: And you talk about thirty nine so that's like six

801
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: snaps per game.

802
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: He lets him run a temple and it was sixty

803
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: to eighty plays per game six of them.

804
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: You're prettching to the choir over here.

805
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: I look, there are a ton of things that make

806
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: this offense significantly better. Not rotating running backs out every

807
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: other play, playing up tempo you hit a first down,

808
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: scrambling up, and not letting defenses substitute. There are a

809
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 3: multitude of different things that make this offense better because

810
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 3: they're not what Sean Payton does Historically, we don't do

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Speaker 3: them like period.

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00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: They just do.

813
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: And I'm sick of the excuse about, well, you know,

814
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: the defense needs to rest. You don't have to snap

815
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: the ball with fifteen seconds left, get up to the

816
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 3: line and you can sit there and survey it.

817
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: That only helps your quarterbacks if you're very early. The

818
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: only thing.

819
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Speaker 3: That does is benefit your offense because it's got The

820
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 3: defense is gotta.

821
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Speaker 1: Tip their hands.

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Speaker 2: At some point, we'll have to have a longer conversation

823
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Speaker 2: about this, coming up in the four o'clock hour.

824
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Speaker 1: I can't wait. You know, early cries my gears. Right, listen,

825
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm the same way. When I saw that sat today,

826
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Speaker 1: there was a little bit of like a come on,

827
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Speaker 1: I mean so co which we already knew, right, I

828
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: mean this, but this is the same things.

829
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Speaker 3: I mean, they were laughing two years ago, and I'm like, hey, look,

830
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 3: you know, when we stopped doing the Sean Payton stuff,

831
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 3: we start doing the Russell Wilson stuff in the fourth

832
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 3: quarter and playing up tempo and letting, you know, all

833
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: of a sudden the offense score points. You start let

834
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: do it. All of a sudden, the offense gets first downs.

835
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: So why are we putting a boat anchor the Ferrari

836
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 3: for no reason?

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Speaker 1: Rick Lewis. Maybe he'll have some answers, he joins us

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Speaker 1: next