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Speaker 2: It'll feel never ending after two weeks of having no

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Speaker 2: Sunday sermons, two hour edition of the show, on the list,

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Speaker 2: on the menu today, on the platter, who's your hotline?

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Speaker 2: Not gonna apologize for it? Today boiler Makers refuse to

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Speaker 2: win NFL Football Sunday, which has already begun. Across the pond.

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Speaker 2: What stadium is that, blake More? You know all the

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Speaker 2: I've seen and soccer games. Vikings by Steam, just because

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Speaker 2: make them up.

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Speaker 1: Wild home opener. Did you attend it? I did? Okay,

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Speaker 2: And the ultimate entry in the Minnesota Sports Calendar of Calamity.

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Speaker 1: I think that covers it.

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Speaker 2: know via the Bradshawn Bryant Cafe and text line six

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Speaker 1: Eight six.

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Speaker 2: Because when you have two hours and no guests, you

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Speaker 1: Looks like the quite a barn burner.

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Speaker 2: By the way, in London under I should say winless

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Speaker 2: that's when you need it. They won't show us.

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Speaker 3: I swear to the London games always just get field goal.

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Speaker 3: It's the field goal marathons.

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Speaker 2: You're right late, first forty seconds to go in the

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Speaker 2: I can find it via the athletic it's a good stat.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to believe that this in this stat is

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Speaker 2: Here's the stat that got my attention, though. Indiana's FBS

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Speaker 1: I have to understand that as much as people.

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Speaker 2: It's a football college football mecca compared to Bloomington, Indiana.

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Speaker 2: I lived it, I saw it. Obviously. It was everything

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Speaker 2: That's the only I mean, that's the only way to

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Speaker 2: Does that look like a team University of Minnesota this year?

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Speaker 2: Will you get the stats up for the box score

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Speaker 2: now allowing that to take place, if you're going to

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Speaker 2: throw it forty five times? You out of your mind?

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Speaker 2: The contrast between two proverbial have not programs couldn't to

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Speaker 2: don't know how long. Again, I mean, Minnesota under PJ

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Speaker 2: two coaches are in different cycles, different periods of their

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Speaker 1: The Big ten level.

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Speaker 2: I grant that point, but I defy anybody to say

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Speaker 1: We kidded about it, I think Friday.

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Speaker 2: They're doing it again, and they're even now with the

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Speaker 2: and PJ has largely done that. We've talked about that.

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco beats him twice? Well he didn't, really, he didn't. Really,

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Speaker 3: I think that was supposed to be Tarasenka. That was

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Speaker 2: second and ten incomplete, pass third and ten we get

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Speaker 2: they get five yards and then eventually they get a

441
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 2: seven yard pass to get to the first down. So

442
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 2: now they got first and goal at the seven. They

443
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: did run. Then they used Makabi on the first down

444
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: run he got two, but then.

445
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: Incomplete and then a penalty.

446
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: It is purdued by the way holding on that play

447
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 2: incomplete another completion to the seventh. The moral of the stories,

448
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: you're you're there's one run through this entire stretch and

449
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 2: you're going, what are you doing? They? You still have

450
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: to get them to prove because you have one run

451
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 2: where you only get a couple of yards. It doesn't

452
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 2: mean you give up on the run. That's been your

453
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 2: bread and butter through this entire game. That was another,

454
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: I think example of why Boilermaker wine line could have

455
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: been red hot last night or earlier today as well.

456
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: Let me get to some we got a wide variety

457
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: of texts coming in right now. Gophers could not run

458
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: the ball that well last year either either Taylor isn't

459
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: that great as a pure running back or Fleck has

460
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: failed and finding linemen that can run block.

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Speaker 1: I've always like Taylor. I don't know what's going on there, I.

462
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: Will say when he doesn't look like there's much of

463
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: a burst there.

464
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: On the other hand, it doesn't look.

465
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: Like he has I mean, it seems like he's getting

466
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: hit almost immediately. So to me, it looks like maybe

467
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: a little bit of a combination of things going there.

468
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: I just don't think it looks like the offensive line

469
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: is as good as we have grown accustomed to it

470
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: being with a you know, with a legitimate run game.

471
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: Where are we here at IOW and at Oregon winnable?

472
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: You're starting to sound like PJ delusional. Io barely lost

473
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: Indiana and just crushed Wisconsin. Those are two locks in

474
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: the L column. That's trail rep. He must be obviously

475
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: some of the Gophers there. I've got some baseball ones

476
00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: I'll hold on to. I have to give you credit,

477
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: Dan for spending a big chunk of sermon talking about

478
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: you're Indiana club by tying it to the Gophers, Well done,

479
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: my friend. Well yeah, I am tying it to the

480
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: Gophers because people don't want to hear it, and I

481
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: know Gopher Hole doesn't want to hear it. But these are,

482
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: you know, traditionally two have not programs. That's the point,

483
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: And in all honesty, the link that is one hundred

484
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: percent legitimate is I'll ask the question out loud, even

485
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: to hardcore Gopher fans. As much as Fleck has been

486
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: serviceable to good through most of the program, for most

487
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: of the time he's been here, has there ever been

488
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: a single time where you feel like he's elevated it

489
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: to the place that Signetti has elevated a worst place,

490
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: a worst place, a tougher place to win it.

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00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: That's the link.

492
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: Obviously they're in different spots, but the link is part

493
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Speaker 2: of what I said earlier. What's the ceiling? We know

494
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: the floor has been raised that's good. We're not going

495
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: back to the Whacker days where you could have complete

496
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: seasons where you go, my god, they're abominable. But it's

497
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: the idea of Okay, can you jump up to that net,

498
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: even if it's one year, can you jump up to

499
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: that place where it feels permissible to get delusional because

500
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: it sounds it's a good mantra, But you got to

501
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: play well enough, I think, to get to that place

502
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: where it doesn't feel silly to talk about delusional. Dan

503
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: I didn't know we had to apologize for beating Purdue.

504
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: When Fleck was hired, he was told, just beat the

505
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: Badgers and we will consider the season of success. Badgers

506
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: used to be a top twenty five program. I think

507
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: the standard has to change. After the Badger's getting killed

508
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: against Iowa? Did you watch any of that game? How

509
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: bad was that? I mean the finals? Thirty seven? Nothing

510
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: and that was Addison? Was the place empty by the end?

511
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: I imagine it was. I was watching the wild Also,

512
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: did anybody even bother to do the fourth quarter? What's

513
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: the traditional song you do? Jump around? Did anybody even

514
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: bother to do? I mean, is can you have your

515
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: heart in jump around? With all due respect to Barry Alvarez,

516
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: who I know says, don't be a fair weather fan.

517
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: You got to keep going for it. Can anybody with

518
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: conviction participate in that wonderful tradition When you're getting destroyed

519
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: again by a Big ten opponent at home.

520
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 3: Well, it's one of your biggest rivals, if not your

521
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: biggest rival next to the gopherst But don't worry. Barry

522
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: Alvarez said that we're spoiled rotten, so and I said

523
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: Badger fans are spoiled rotten, which as of late couldn't

524
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: be further from the truth.

525
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: Peter Popsicle is very groggy this morning while Dan is

526
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: picking on our favorite hockey squad. Peter Popsicle had to

527
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: hit the bong pretty hard last night during that debacle

528
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: at the arena formally called.

529
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Speaker 4: The x.

530
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Speaker 1: DAN.

531
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Speaker 2: There are only so many college football Saturdays a year,

532
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 2: let alone in life. And it was an absolutely beautiful

533
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: fall day in Dickeytown when we pulled off the win.

534
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: Those cocky boiler Makers learned we're a second half team,

535
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: and they learned it the hard way. In Drake we

536
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: trust our TB Rose Bowl Guy flim Flam. According to

537
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: Schefty today, is Herschel Walker Trade Day. Unless Minnesota's posted

538
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: about this in the last minute, Schefty was first to

539
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: report that's from Flimflam. Believe me when I tell you

540
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: that Dan Minnesota has scooped Shefty on this being the

541
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: most calamitous day in Minnesota sports history, the day the

542
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: infamous Herschel junior Walker trade was made. It's on the

543
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 2: calendar not only of calamity, but of today's program. We

544
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: will indeed get to that before we are done. What

545
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: else do we have here? What do you think about

546
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 2: the defensive line for the Gophers along so many rushing yards,

547
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: didn't look any did not look particularly impressive for me.

548
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: You know, we going back if you want to continue

549
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 2: the link. As much as it annoys Gopher fans, what

550
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: stands out about Indiana is they're very good at the

551
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage and they went into one of the

552
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 2: excuse me, toughest places to play, and that's to me

553
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: where they won the game. They had a alleged Heisman

554
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: candidate frustrated their quarterback, Oregon's quarterback with tremendous pressure on him.

555
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: Just great physicality at the line of scrimmage, and their

556
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: offensive line is is quite good as well.

557
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: You know, Indiana did not run particularly as well.

558
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: There have been times under PJ where that's been a

559
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: strength line of scrimmage, and it doesn't feel to me

560
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 2: like it's a strength to any meaningful degree on either

561
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 2: side of the ball at this point.

562
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: Even after.

563
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: Winning our second Big Ten game, I think our current

564
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 2: Big Ten record is above five hundred. Last check two

565
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: and one. Let's pause, get caught up, get some more texts,

566
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: oh to a dead gal before we're done. Maybe we

567
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: stake our claim regarding the Minnesota sports calendar calamity as well.

568
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: Don't go.

569
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Speaker 3: Sunday sermons brought you by JT. R.

570
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: Roofing.

571
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: All right, sermon's back, Barrero and blakemore with you till

572
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 2: eleven today, two hour tour because there is no vikings

573
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: to get in the way. Although next week we start

574
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: I think a series of noon game. Well, we have

575
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: a Thursday night game afterwards, but then I think we

576
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: got a bunch of noon games coming up, so we'll

577
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: be back to one hour a week from now, in

578
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: which we will have a chance to review Gophers Nebraska.

579
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 2: I think that's a will you double check that game?

580
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: I think that's a Friday night game, which also would

581
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 2: mean a shortened bumper to bumper program.

582
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: Not mistaken, You are correct.

583
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: I think we might Friday. Yeah, we might be out

584
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: at five o'clock on this Friday show. Nice little perk

585
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: for us, nice little well bonus, and you might be in.

586
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: I'm assuming because guards you will be preparing from the

587
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 2: sidelines go to football.

588
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm out of town really, so you're out of the mix.

589
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: Could be a clean up. Maybe they'll have me do both.

590
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: You think I could pull that off?

591
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: I don't think I could run the spots and all

592
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff.

593
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: I just hit the button in here. You'll be fine.

594
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: Is that all it takes. Don't don't reveal yourself. It

595
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: really hard, complicated and cerebral. There's so many buttons over there. Yeah,

596
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 2: I don't know how that. I'm not sure they should

597
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: or would trust me. Even if it's just pushing one button,

598
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure I would remember to push it

599
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: six or five.

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00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: One guy rights, Dan, am I listening.

601
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: To a Minnesota radio station or Indiana radio station? And

602
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: I replied, I think honestly, you're listening to a Minnesota

603
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: station using another football program to expose the frailties of

604
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: Minnesota's it's legal, and I dare say might even be effective.

605
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: It's just a device.

606
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: So again, I'm not you know me, I don't want

607
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: to hurt anybody's feelings, but we're not going to run

608
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: from it. It's just kind of silly to run from it.

609
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: I think as well, and I think deep down most

610
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: people understand it and are willing to take it and

611
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: accept it and work with it.

612
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: We'll see.

613
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 2: Can you get the sports Calendar Calamity's to.

614
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 4: Minnesota Sports Calendar of Calamity?

615
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: You can argue that the calamity was created for today.

616
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: You could certainly make that argument that even if there

617
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 2: weren't a number of other calamitous moments in Minnesota sports history,

618
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: that this date October twelve in Minnesota sports history alone

619
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Speaker 2: is enough to create the calendar of calamity. Nineteen eighty

620
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 2: nine was the year. So that's twenty one and twenty five,

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Speaker 2: forty six years ago, Is that right?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Eleven, I can't. I can't even do math anymore. It's

624
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Speaker 2: eleven plus twenty five thirty six years ago.

625
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: Correct. I was just not in the long Yeah, yeah,

626
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Speaker 1: because I'm thinking forty six.

627
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't feel like it's been that long, but

628
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: thirty six is pretty long anyway. The Vikings and cow

629
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: Boys made a deal that will live an infamy, and

630
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Speaker 2: I've said it many times. I don't want to run

631
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: from it. I lauded the deal in print as the

632
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 2: Snarky one of the snarky columnists the Start Tribune.

633
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: I hailed.

634
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: This trade because at the time, the Vikings literally looked

635
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: to be a good running back away from being a

636
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: legitimate Super Bowl threat. What we didn't really understand the

637
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: time the deal. At the time the deal was announced,

638
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: we thought it was going to be either you give

639
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: up a bunch of players or you give up a

640
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: bunch of draft choices. And ultimately the Vikings did both

641
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: the way the deal was actually formed and arranged, in the.

642
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: End, they gave up both.

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Speaker 2: And what we also didn't know on that day, or

644
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: I didn't understand, was that herschel Walker had played his

645
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: best football. Dallas knew he was past his prime, not done,

646
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: but well passed his prime. And what I didn't know

647
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: is that we would not understand how to use him.

648
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: We tried to use a tailback runner in a two

649
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: back set because that was the style of offense that

650
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: Burnsey preferred square peg, round hole.

651
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Speaker 1: I mean it may not have mattered, but that added

652
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Speaker 1: to the.

653
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Speaker 2: Issues and the struggles for Herschel, who never became a factor.

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Speaker 2: If you recall the first time he touched the ball

655
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Speaker 2: he went for, I mean, was it fifty Well, you

656
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Speaker 2: can double check the number of yards fifty sixty yards,

657
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: lost his shoe and it looked like the myth is

658
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: born here. This is going to be one of the

659
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: most mythic trades in team history. It turns out to

660
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: be one of the most infamous, and it largely has

661
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: been given has been given credit because the draft choices.

662
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: We're building the Dallas cow at least the foundation for

663
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys nineteen nineties.

664
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: Dynasty.

665
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson has talked about it often. Dave Wanstad, who

666
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: was on his staff, talked about it often, and it

667
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: I don't think there's ever been a trade quite like it,

668
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: not just here but anywhere. Because what have we talked

669
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: about when the Caprice off speculation began. If we reached

670
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: the point where we were unable to sign him and

671
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 2: actually had to parish the thought think about trading him,

672
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 2: we said, let's remember the Garnet deal. What we remember

673
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: about the Gardnet trade was it was probably inevitable by

674
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: that point, but that you did not get equal value

675
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 2: for the star player. No matter how many players you got,

676
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: it's always the team that gives up the star is

677
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: forced to take a bunch of different entities, some second

678
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: line players, maybe a young player who has a chance

679
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: to develop but rarely does, and a couple of draft picks.

680
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 1: You just feel like you got. Yeah.

681
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: You can get excited about the number, the volume, but

682
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 2: you never really feel like, yeah, but they got the start,

683
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: they got the guy. And that's always often the problem

684
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: with trading away the one big piece. And what did

685
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: we say then was the exception to that rule the

686
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: Vikings Minnesota, because on that day it was perceived that

687
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: we got the big piece Herschel junior walker.

688
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: And how'd that work out? Well?

689
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys became a dynasty. We were never we

690
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: didn't you know, we didn't bottom out. We'd have to

691
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 2: be horrible. We had some decent teams there, but we

692
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: were really able to do anything with it. And Herschel

693
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 2: never felt comfortable here. We were never all that comfortable

694
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: with Herschel. Remember when he became he wanted to become

695
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: a bobsledter, and that became an off season controversy. All

696
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: the work he was putting into that ten thousand Was

697
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: it ten thousand push ups today he said?

698
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: Or was it one thousand?

699
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: I can't remember whatever number he pledged he did, which

700
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: no one believed. He came off here as kind of

701
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: a con man, although now he's going to be a

702
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: US ambassador, I think to the Bahamas disaster. So we

703
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: are the one exception of the rule that, well, you

704
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 2: want to be the team that gets the big piece,

705
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: because no matter what you're giving up, it's just little pieces. Well,

706
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: the one time that didn't pay off, certainly one of

707
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: the times it few times that that was not the

708
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: case was when we got allegedly the big piece and

709
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 2: felt utterly and completely violated and betrayed by the time

710
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: we completely understood what the deal was. And as the

711
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: year played out and as herschel Walker faded into distant memory,

712
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 2: it's depressing because again, well, the good news is we

713
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: don't there's no reason we're going to trade Caprice off,

714
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: at least not soon. But you'd like to think that

715
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: that was going to be the thing that put us

716
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 2: over the top. And it did not come even close

717
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: to to do so. So it is a red letter day,

718
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: October twelfth, nineteen eighty nine, the ultimate calamity on a

719
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 2: Minnesota sports calendar of calamity that is abundant, as most

720
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: of you know, especially those of you who listen to

721
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: this program. Bratchewan Brian Kafee and text line is open

722
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 2: at six four six eighty six. I wonder how many

723
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 2: in our audience bought a herschel Walker, Jersey Vikings, Jersey

724
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: Van and how many of those folks, how many of

725
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 2: those folks still have it as a collector's item of infamy.

726
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: Do you burn it? Do you throw it away? Do

727
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: you give it to charity?

728
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: Do you put it in the steamer trunk where it's

729
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 2: hidden and you don't have to look at it, or

730
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: do you still have it prominently.

731
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: Placed in your closet.

732
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: I'm very curious to know, because I have to believe

733
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: there were a lot of them sold when he first

734
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: got here. The goodwill was tremendous. Did you find that

735
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: first play where he lost his shoe? Were you able

736
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: to find it? If not, I was looking at a

737
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 2: like season for seasons. Okay, I'll look, yeah, I'll find.

738
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Speaker 1: It via the Google machine.

739
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: As we prepare for hour number two, Oh to a

740
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: dead guy in this case, Oh to a dead gal.

741
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: Sad breaking news from yesterday. That'll be a part of

742
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: the second hour of the program. I got some NFL

743
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: stuff to get to as well before we wrap things

744
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: up at eleven today and.

745
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: Well we'll mix the match. We will continue to call.

746
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: Through a voluminous supply of texts into the bratchew on

747
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: Brian Kfean text line six four six eighty six back

748
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: in a minute our number two Sunday sermons, Barrero and

749
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: blakemore with you till eleven o'clock this morning. Lots to

750
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: get to in the second hour, including ode to a

751
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 2: dead Gal, couple of.

752
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: I guess you could say add.

753
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: Ons regarding the calamitous day that today is when it

754
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: comes to Minnesota sports, the Minnesota sports scene. The day

755
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: of the Herschel Walker trade, some of it provided by

756
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: Dan Minnesota. The Herschel's first game was a home game

757
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: against the Green Bay Packers, and he gained hundred and

758
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 2: forty eight yards on eighteen carries and help the Vikings

759
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: knock off the Packers twenty six to fourteen Metrodome record

760
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 2: crowd on hand sixty two seventy five. To prove the

761
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: point about the frenzy and the buzz, he took the

762
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: opening kickoff four yards deep in the end zone. I

763
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: shouldn't say opening kickoff. This was after Green Bay had

764
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: taken a seven to nothing early lead and they're kicking

765
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 2: off to the Vikings. He takes the ball from four

766
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: yards deep in the end zone, goes fifty one yards

767
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: down the right sideline. Unfortunately, there was a holding call,

768
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: so the play gets called back.

769
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: On his first.

770
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 2: Play from scrimmage, which was almost thirteen minutes into the game,

771
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: he goes off right guard, breaks four tackles on a

772
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: forty seven yard run, and the final fifteen he ran

773
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 2: without his right shoe. Mark Murphy was attempting to tackle

774
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: him on that occasion. He kicked the shoe, did herschel

775
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 2: into the air and ran the last fifteen yards of

776
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: that play without the shoe. That added, obviously to the drama,

777
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: and at the time it was the third longest run

778
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 2: in Walker's three and a half NFL seasons. That's another thing.

779
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: You go, well, God, he should have had a lot

780
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 2: left in the tank three and a half season. I

781
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: remember he had played elsewhere outside the National Football League,

782
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 2: the New Jersey Generals, as I recall, but there was

783
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 2: nothing but glee in that building. I'm feeling good about

784
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: what I wrote. This is great. He averaged eight point

785
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: two yards that day, became the first player to gain

786
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: one hundred yards in his Minnesota debut, and it was nirvana.

787
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: As I said. The problem is it didn't last.

788
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 2: It ended up being a cruel tease because I'm not

789
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: sure he was ever He had a couple other moments,

790
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: but I'm not sure he ever had any quite like that.

791
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: Dan Minnesota reminds us and this is interesting. Let me

792
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 2: see if I can find it. Did he just send this? Yeah,

793
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: here's the kicker. So the deals consummated in October of

794
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 2: eighty nine. In February nineteen ninety, Mike Lynn, who of

795
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: course was the Vikings general manager, and Jimmy Johnson negotiated

796
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 2: a settlement to as when a soda suggests, stop the bleeding.

797
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: His point is the Cowboys could have gotten even more

798
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: before the settlement.

799
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: And for the record, the Vikings.

800
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: Sent first and second round picks in nineteen ninety, ninety

801
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: one and ninety two, and a third round choice in

802
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: ninety two to Dallas as compensation for Herschel Walker absurd

803
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: when you think about it in football, the way number

804
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 2: ones and number twos are coveted. When Walker was acquired

805
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 2: October twelve, the Vikings sent five players and up to

806
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: seven conditional picks to the Cowboys. Teams negotiated a settlement

807
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: this is in February afterwards, allowing Dallas to keep all

808
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: the picks and linebackers Jesse Salomon and David Howard and

809
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: cornerback Isaac Colt. In return, the Vikings did receive the

810
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: cowboys nineteen ninety ninety one third round picks and their

811
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety tenth round choice. The Cowboys would have kept

812
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: the picks and released the players, with the Vikings getting

813
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: nothing in return if general manager Mike Linn had not

814
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: agreed to a settlement that amended the trade. So as

815
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: bad as it was, it could have been worse as well.

816
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 4: Well.

817
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 1: Darren Nelson was in that deal.

818
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: If you were a call highly successful, even though he

819
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 2: didn't want to remember Disco, Darren didn't want to be here.

820
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: Could have had Marcus Allen the whole bit. But it

821
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: I had forgotten about the fact that without I don't

822
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: know if you want to call it the Cowboys mercy,

823
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: it might have actually been worse. And I don't know

824
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: if Jimmy Johnson had any mercy in him where he

825
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: felt sorry for Mike Linn because the trade was working

826
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: out so well for Dallas and by that point was

827
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 2: viewed as so embarrassing for the Vikings.

828
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure.

829
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: And yes we did mention Hopkins guy reminding us about

830
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 2: the fact that Herschel is now the greatest ambassador of

831
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 2: the Bahamas that the United States has ever had.

832
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: Very very true.

833
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: Davy six pet two guy reminds us of what we

834
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: also explored earlier. Herschel ran a deep eye in college

835
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: and with the Cowboys are ignorant coaches put him in

836
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: a split back scenario, did not work. He was traded

837
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 2: the next thing and put him back in the deep eye.

838
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: He flourished seven yards deep in the I formation. Made

839
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 2: a huge difference. Yeah, we did talk about that that

840
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: you can argue that even if you are willing to

841
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 2: adjust to him a little bit in your offensive style,

842
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: that's still too much to give up ultimately. But if

843
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: you're even going to consider giving up that much, then

844
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: the least you can do is you say we got

845
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 2: to change, and that's harder in the middle of a season,

846
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: but you have to take your best shot at having success.

847
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 2: And I'm still confounded by that decision. I know we

848
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: tried to explore that with the Lake great Jerry Burns

849
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 2: in this studio many years ago. I don't know we

850
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 2: got very far. I don't even know if he agree

851
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 2: to he would necessarily agree to that position, but I

852
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: do think that was that didn't help it. I mean,

853
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 2: it reminds me of, to a certain extent, on a

854
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: lower level, of the Timberwol's obsession with Joe Smith. It was, well,

855
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: if you're going to be obsessed with a player and

856
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 2: signed into a legal contract, shouldn't he be a a

857
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 2: better player? And b shouldn't you play him? Because there

858
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: was one series because of matchup issues. I want to

859
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 2: say it was against the Mavericks.

860
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: Where he barely even played, and.

861
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: It was the comeback was, well, it's the way the

862
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: Mavericks play. There's bad matchups and going well, then you've

863
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 2: just proven the stupidity of being this obsessed withholding with

864
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 2: signing him and keeping him here. Because any player that

865
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 2: is that specialized. Isn't worth it right, isn't worth all

866
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 2: the issues? So we got that going for us as well.

867
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 2: If the Vikings could be in the right side of

868
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: a Herschel like trade, could Crazy even make good on

869
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: all those picks, Doctor Phil, that's a cheap shot.

870
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: Come on, man, doctor Phil. From Saint Michael.

871
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's some still questions about our drafting,

872
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 2: not so much maybe about our free agency acquisitions, although

873
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: you know, we're a long way from complete evaluation of

874
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: the changes that looked really good in this offseason.

875
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: I will agree on that.

876
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: Dan was it Ralph, John Fritz or Mark Rose that

877
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 2: the host of the Herschel Walker Show don't forget Herschel

878
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 2: was the first athlete to talk to the third person.

879
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 1: That's true.

880
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's ever been researched, but it

881
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: felt like something that became pretty common over the years,

882
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: an athlete talking about himself in the third person. As

883
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 2: I recalled Herschel as one of the first individuals to

884
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: do exactly that. Do you remember the first Herschel news

885
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: conference classic Sid versus Rob Lear's shoutethon, I don't remember that.

886
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: That's from two to one to four, Guy but it

887
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't surprise me, and if I think about it, it

888
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 2: probably would come back to me as well. It's not

889
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 2: the hand your dealt, Dan, it's how you play the cards.

890
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: We got the big piece in Herschel and didn't change

891
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 2: how we played. Yeah, now established the Cowboys got those picks,

892
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: but they still to make good ones.

893
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: That's true too. You got to make the right choices,

894
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: which they did as well.

895
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: Somebody has suggested that there's no chance anyone who bought

896
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: a Herschel Walker Jersey still owns it, that the hurt

897
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 2: would be so dramatic that there's no chance to any

898
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 2: They're probably right about that.

899
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: Let's come back and get to owe to a dead gal.

900
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: Sad news from the movie world that broke yesterday's program

901
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: as well.

902
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: Keep the text coming.

903
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: I do want to talk some Vikings, even though because

904
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: we're on the are we not on the eve of

905
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: Eagles Week? It's a big week for your club. Eagles

906
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: look vulnerable. Can the Vikings take advantage of it? And

907
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: with which quarterback do they have the better chance to

908
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 2: take advantage of the Eagles issues?

909
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 4: Stay tuned, and now it's time for ode to a

910
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 4: dead guy.

911
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 2: News breaking yesterday that Diane Keaton has passed away at

912
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: the age believe of seventy nine years old. There's not

913
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: been much written about any particular health issues in her case,

914
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: although according to a couple of the pieces I've read,

915
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: her health did take a fairly sudden decline. She decided

916
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: to stay very private about what that was about, and

917
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 2: I think those around her clung to that idea as well,

918
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: and she will, of course forever. I think for a

919
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: lot of people be known as Annie Hall. That role

920
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 2: you could say, in the Woody Allen film in which

921
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: she is, of course the title character, kind of changed everything.

922
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: For her.

923
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 2: And it's a terrific role. It's a very good relationships movie.

924
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 2: Understand You know, all of Woody Allen's films are in

925
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: the view of many people looked at in a different

926
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: light because of a number of the accusations against him.

927
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: But there's not any question that that sort of changed

928
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: everything for her. It did not, as the cliche goes,

929
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 2: define her, and there are you know, the breadth of

930
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 2: a movie stars career or accomplishment is often about the

931
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: variety of roles that they play. We go, no, I

932
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: picked this one. I mean, you can have some really

933
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 2: good debates breaking out about well, this is my favorite

934
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: Diane Keaton roll, And it's a long list, depending on

935
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: perhaps what kind of movies you like, what kind of

936
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: characters you like here playing, and how much you want

937
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: the lighter comedy stuff, how much you might like something

938
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: a little more serious, how much you make your decision

939
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: on the basis of who she is starring opposite, you know,

940
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: including Jack Nicholson, including Patchino in Godfather. I mentioned yesterday

941
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: via the X Machine that the movie that I will

942
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: when I hear the name dian Dian Keaton as much

943
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: as again it's it's Annie Hall. The movie I think

944
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 2: of and I'm triggered to think of immediately is one

945
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: that I'm not sure a lot of people think of first,

946
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 2: because it's a not a particularly successful film when it

947
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 2: came out to the theaters, very long movie, you know,

948
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 2: a circuitous film, and the subject matter didn't interest a

949
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: lot of people. It was about an American comedy who

950
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 2: wrote a book about the called Reds. I think it's

951
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: one of the greatest movies ever made. She gotta be

952
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 2: in the You gotta hold in on it. As I said,

953
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 2: it's long, the cast is tremendous. We'll get to that

954
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 2: in a minute. And her level of power in that

955
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 2: movie I think changed the film as good as Warren

956
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: Baty is, and he also he starred and directed in

957
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 2: the movie. I thought she was the straw that stirred

958
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 2: the drink of that film. And in that movie, she

959
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 2: plays a suffragist named Louise Bryant, I should say, And

960
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: ultimately Louise Bryant meets up with John Reid, the journalist

961
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 2: that the movie is built around, and they end up

962
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,479
Speaker 2: becoming romantically involved. He follows her back to New York.

963
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: I think she had been in Portland, Oregon at the time.

964
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 2: She was married at the time, believe.

965
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: And.

966
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 2: So the story is about their years together, the Russian Revolution,

967
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 2: the unusual nature of an American being in the middle

968
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 2: of that, being an avowed communist, the whole bit. And again,

969
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 2: you know, Annie Hall, she plays kind of a kind

970
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 2: of the ditsy character right.

971
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: And did it very very well.

972
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 2: But that's not what she was, and certainly to me,

973
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: she I liked her better when she played in more

974
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: serious roles. Don't mind the comedy, but I just thought

975
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 2: this movie she was special. It just had so much

976
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 2: force in this film and played off of Warren Beatty,

977
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 2: I think beautifully. So if it's a movie you've never

978
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: seen and you're into Diane Keaton, I'd consider it, you know,

979
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: if you're trying to pay a tribute. Obviously, there are

980
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: a million other films that are lighter and that are

981
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 2: effective and that they're well done. I'll give you another

982
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 2: serious one that doesn't get very much attention.

983
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: At all.

984
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: In fact, I don't even know how easy it is

985
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 2: to find it at this point.

986
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: And it was based on a book.

987
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 2: By I guess actually I don't remember the name who

988
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 2: wrote the book, but the book was called it was

989
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 2: a bestseller in the late seventies called Looking for Mister Goodbar.

990
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 2: And she plays a very what's the word stressed school

991
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 2: teacher in this film, and it follows her enjoying the

992
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 2: night life, her being single, she's in the middle of

993
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: a lot of one night stands in New York. The

994
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 2: soundtrack is actually quite brilliant, but it's a very tough

995
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 2: movie and a very sobering film as well. But it's

996
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 2: another example of a completely You watch that movie and

997
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 2: you'd say, well, that's that. Don't even that's not Anie Hall.

998
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 2: You kidding, but that's what I love about her. That

999
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 2: showed to me how versatile she could be, how powerful

1000
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 2: she could be in very very different roles, and how

1001
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 2: she could dominate.

1002
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: The screen to the degree that that she did.

1003
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 2: She played opposite Steve Martin and Father of the Bride

1004
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 2: that remake in nineteen ninety one. She's obviously in a

1005
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 2: bunch of Woody Allen films as.

1006
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: As well.

1007
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 2: She received the twenty seventeen the Lifetime Achievment Award from

1008
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 2: the American Film Institute and.

1009
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: Played opposite Jack Nicholson in it.

1010
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 2: Terrific you could say, I mean comedy with some serious

1011
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 2: relationship issues played out through that film as well. Just

1012
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 2: a great, great career and I think again seventy nine,

1013
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 2: But I think part of the shock is there was

1014
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 2: no indication that she was ill, you know, that that

1015
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 2: she was struggling, that she was battling anything.

1016
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: Baby Boom.

1017
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 2: She was in that film Something's Got to Give, I believe,

1018
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 2: was the movie with Nicholson, which I thought was excellent,

1019
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 2: and the list kind of goes on and on. Her

1020
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 2: last role on screen was in something called Summer Camp

1021
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. I didn't see I think Kathy Bates

1022
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 2: was in that film as well, and the tributes have

1023
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 2: come in where, you know, from all over the place,

1024
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 2: as one might expect. I think also beyond the movie stuff,

1025
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: she was viewed to someone who had her own clothing style,

1026
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 2: so just you know, to a large extent, and just

1027
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 2: had an air about her, a presence about her that

1028
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 2: was extremely unique. In fact, I think for Reds she

1029
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,919
Speaker 2: was nominated for an Oscar. I don't think she won

1030
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 2: for Reds. I think she was nominated for an Oscar

1031
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: on that occasion, that movie, I believe. I'm pretty sure

1032
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 2: it's over three hours. If she won the Academy Award

1033
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 2: in the nineteen seventy seven film Annie Hall, she had

1034
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: obviously been involved with. She got involved, I think with

1035
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 2: Woody Allen earlier. By that point. I don't think they

1036
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: were still involved. I'm not sure. But she also, as

1037
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: I said, was nominated for Reds, nominated for Something's Got

1038
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 2: to Give and Marvin's Room as well.

1039
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: Not bad.

1040
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 2: They also have in the resume that you're in the

1041
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 2: god the original Godfather movie. So just a marvelous career

1042
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: if you have your own recollections of her career hit

1043
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 2: the text line the bratch on Brian Kfe and text

1044
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 2: line at number six four six eighty six. We will

1045
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 2: make our final segment of today's two hour addition to sermons,

1046
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: very much a combo platter, thirty minutes. I do want

1047
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 2: to touch upon some pro football. We may circle back

1048
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 2: to some college football as well and touch on a

1049
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 2: couple of other controversies, but keep the text.

1050
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: Coming as well, and we'll include you in the conversation.

1051
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: State Tuo.

1052
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 2: Ill assume we have a lot of football the rest

1053
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: of the day here on our flagship FM one hundred and.

1054
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: Point three the fan basically the rest of the way. Yeah,

1055
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: that's outstanding.

1056
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 2: I don't think it's an outstanding array of games. If

1057
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 2: there's a few that interest me, any NFC North game

1058
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 2: interests me. That includes your club with an opportunity to

1059
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 2: batter the Cincinnati Bengals you mentioned, and that's a three

1060
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 2: twenty five game. Lions are the Lions tonight or tomorrow night,

1061
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 2: at least Sunday night football night footballs against the Chiefs. Yeah,

1062
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 2: that's a nice little matchup. Bears are Monday night, do

1063
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 2: they have they have the rematch against the Washington you

1064
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,919
Speaker 2: know the year it's almost like the schedule maker said, well,

1065
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 2: we have to we have to milk that disaster that

1066
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 2: finish the hail Mary and the Bears defensive back frolicking

1067
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 2: with fans in the stands as the play has started.

1068
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 2: You can't You still can't make that up. I'm pretty sure. Yeah,

1069
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 2: it's a rematch for the Bears against against Washington, and

1070
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: then the Eagles week will indeed begin. In fact, I

1071
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 2: want to start this second with a Vikings related text, Dan,

1072
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 2: could the issue of McCarthy holding out of the ball

1073
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 2: too long have been corrected with more play in the

1074
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 2: preseason and as the reluctance of teams to play starts

1075
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 2: in the preseason giving us two or more weeks of

1076
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 2: inferior football.

1077
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: That's mcgobol.

1078
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 2: That's a from of mcbowboll hashtag mcbobo on the latter,

1079
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any question that it's impacting the

1080
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 2: starts of the season. Now. You can still argue that

1081
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 2: there's too much to lose playing main guys in the

1082
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 2: preseason and that that's so. The trade office is one

1083
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 2: that you just have to accept. But if you're asking

1084
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 2: me to answer the question objectively, absolutely, I think it

1085
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 2: has an impact on how many teams start the season.

1086
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: Just the quality of play doesn't mean you.

1087
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 2: Can't have exciting games, doesn't mean you can't have close games,

1088
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 2: because we've had a lot of those. Can doesn't mean

1089
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 2: we can have a lot of great comebacks, which we've had.

1090
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 2: But I do think it has some impact. And in

1091
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 2: this case, I absolutely believe McCarthy should have played more

1092
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 2: in the preseason one hundred percent. And I again know

1093
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 2: why they didn't, but and I know they think we

1094
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 2: saw enough in practice, he got enough of the reps

1095
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 2: that felt like a game that that's that was enough

1096
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 2: for what we wanted to do. I don't buy it,

1097
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 2: And I think, what if it's obvious that the more

1098
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: experienced a player is, the easier it is to say

1099
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 2: we're not playing him in the preseason just because of

1100
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 2: the built inequity we have with that player, the experience

1101
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 2: that he has had, et cetera. But to me, when

1102
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 2: a player is as young as McCarthy is and as

1103
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:32,799
Speaker 2: young as he looked, that's screaming to me, just reps

1104
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 2: throwing them back out there, albeit accepting the risk, which is, well,

1105
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 2: wait a minute, season ended in preseason last year. Do

1106
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 2: we really want do we do we really want to

1107
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 2: risk that possibility again, I'd say yes, I'd say you

1108
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 2: have to, You almost have to roll the dice.

1109
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

1110
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 2: If I'm in the minority on that anymore, but I

1111
01:09:56,200 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 2: certainly was at at one point. Dan correct me if

1112
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 2: I'm wrong. This is a six to one to two guy.

1113
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 2: But I remember the Herschel trade as a bunch of

1114
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 2: players and a few picks for Walker. The players were

1115
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 2: started for the Vikings, Nelson, Isaac Holt. I think Jesse

1116
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 2: Solomon was in that deal as well. The fleecing was

1117
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 2: that the players were attached to picks. If Dallas kept

1118
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 2: the players, the Vikings kept the picks. The Vikings incorrectly

1119
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 2: naively assumed Dallas would keep some of the players.

1120
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: Ding, Ding Ding. That's exactly it.

1121
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 2: The assumption was Dallas needed players, and these guys were

1122
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 2: good enough players, even if they weren't great players, that

1123
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 2: they weren't just gonna be that willing to get rid

1124
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: of the players to get the draft picks. That was

1125
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 2: the miscalculation from Mike Linn from the beginning, because what

1126
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 2: Dallas said was none of the we're not close, none

1127
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 2: of these players are going to be part of our

1128
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 2: big jump, and we have enough faith in ourselves in

1129
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 2: terms of our scouts and our drafting capabilities that we

1130
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: want the purity of having these picks. That's one hundred

1131
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 2: percent true. Tom from Columbia Heights. I'd say that the

1132
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson trade was worse than the Walker trade given

1133
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 2: the embarrassment of his own actions, and then Houston did

1134
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 2: not capitalize with those picks. It's certainly in the in

1135
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 2: the ballpark, and it's certainly a little bit, you know,

1136
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 2: more recent, but it's certainly part of the discussion for sure.

1137
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 2: One other thing I wanted to look up here is

1138
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 2: we keep some some techs coming in that I'm trying

1139
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 2: to mixing. I'm going to try to mix and match with.

1140
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 2: But before we do that, let me get to a

1141
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 2: couple more well pro football the There is another Europe game,

1142
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 2: another London game, and the Jets have taken the lead

1143
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 2: eleven ten over Denver.

1144
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: Did I was it a safety? Did I miss it?

1145
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: So here's what happened? Okay, so it was a safety.

1146
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: So bon Nicks they're backed up.

1147
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 3: Yes, I throws a pass, but there was an offensive

1148
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 3: holding and there was also an eligible man down field.

1149
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,879
Speaker 3: I believe okay Oh reported in eligible offensive holding enforced

1150
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 3: in the end zones. I don't think I've ever seen

1151
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 3: that a penalty in the end zone. That basically is like, well,

1152
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 3: that's a safety. Well I thought so he was never

1153
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 3: tackled in the end zone. Well no, But if there's

1154
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 3: whole holding in the end zone, is a safety? Did

1155
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 3: you say?

1156
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, that's that's the key to it. Yeah. So

1157
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 1: if you that's the whole point.

1158
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,799
Speaker 2: The presumption is the whole way got prevented the safety.

1159
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 2: So the tie in that sense goes to the defense. Now,

1160
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 2: did I see who I thought I saw down the

1161
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,799
Speaker 2: ball on the punt from the one or two yard line?

1162
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 2: Did you notice who I was responsible for that?

1163
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 4: Go on?

1164
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: Is Wong Wu? I never know how to pronounce the name.

1165
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: Wasn't he with us? He was? Or did they had?

1166
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: Is there more than one Wong Wool?

1167
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,799
Speaker 2: Because I thought I saw Wong Woo for the Jets

1168
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 2: jet down there to get in position to down the ball?

1169
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 1: Is he with them? We check their roster, that's who

1170
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: it was.

1171
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 2: We didn't need them. We didn't need him, did we, Funny?

1172
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 2: And that's that's the right.

1173
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: Now, that's the and the Jets are as. I recall

1174
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: Winless going into this game.

1175
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: Among the players the the Cowboys drafted or had access

1176
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 2: to in no small measure because of the picks they

1177
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 2: acquired in the Herschel Walker deal, em It Smith, Russell Maryland,

1178
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 2: Kevin Smith, and Darren Woodson.

1179
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: That's a team right there. Think about it.

1180
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 2: That's a big part of it too, bookseller guy reminding me,

1181
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 2: and how could I forget? It's a great, great callback,

1182
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 2: outstanding callback. Another film that is rarely discussed in the

1183
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:13,799
Speaker 2: Diane Keaton career is a film in which she starred

1184
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 2: opposite the outstanding actor Albert Finnie called Shoot the Moon,

1185
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 2: directed by Alan Parker, and it is they are married

1186
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 2: couple Finny and Keaton who are struggling in their marriage,

1187
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 2: and it sort of follows that arc. I guess you

1188
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 2: would say, another film in which you have to be

1189
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 2: in the mood to watch it because it's tough, it's

1190
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 2: unforgiving and very very unsparing, and again doesn't really make

1191
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: all that much, doesn't get that much attention at this point.

1192
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:06,719
Speaker 1: Shoot the Moon. Here's another thing I thought. I always

1193
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 1: thought Keaton.

1194
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 2: Was so big in her stay in her well or

1195
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 2: she did actually start in the stage, but in her

1196
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 2: movie presence that she didn't get overshadowed by the male lead.

1197
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: And this is another movie where she didn't. She more

1198
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 2: than held her own in many and you know, often,

1199
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 2: especially going back years, these movies feel like they're more

1200
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,719
Speaker 2: for a device for the male lead.

1201
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 1: And I think the proof.

1202
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 2: Of her power as an actress or as an actor

1203
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,440
Speaker 2: is I never felt like ever that she was overshadowed,

1204
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 2: and if anything, occasionally that the male lead was overshadowed

1205
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,919
Speaker 2: by the power of her performance.

1206
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 1: That's a very good, very good callback.

1207
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 2: Hard to believe that Keaton was only twenty six years

1208
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 2: old when she was in the first Godfather played her

1209
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 2: characters of the unique maturity, a trait I think held

1210
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 2: true throughout her early roles. Missed the first hour. This

1211
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:13,839
Speaker 2: is from Lynnwood Township guy, Honey do List. I'm formerly

1212
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 2: Southside Chicago guy. I love your shows. Congratulations and Hoosiers.

1213
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 2: Enjoyed that game. Watched all along rooting for the proverbial

1214
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 2: underdog Indiana team. That may be the ending of that label, however,

1215
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 2: enjoy another topic. Go for a running game. I'm scared.

1216
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 2: I look forward to your guests and how they think

1217
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 2: it can return. I've changed over to every Minnesota team

1218
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 2: except for my beloved Bears. Years of caring how many

1219
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 2: yards number forty or thirty four got was all we had.

1220
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 2: He's talking of course about Gail Series or Sayers or

1221
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 2: Walter Payton, please revenge Washington and they sad hail Mary,

1222
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 2: as you have just mentioned. Well, he's touched on a

1223
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 2: lot of stuff there. And yeah, we talked about the

1224
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 2: Gopher victory. It was a victory. It was not a loss,

1225
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 2: even if it felt more once again as if Purdue

1226
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 2: refused to win the game a series of almost unspeakable

1227
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 2: decision making.

1228
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 1: Not to mention some I didn't.

1229
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 2: Somebody needs to count up for me the number of

1230
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 2: dropped passes by h Purdue receivers. I think it approached

1231
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 2: double digits. I'm not sure I've ever seen a game.

1232
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 2: And you know what bugs me. On the broadcast, the

1233
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,719
Speaker 2: TV broadcast, if there's a defensive back in the area,

1234
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 2: they'll say, and the pass was broken up, No, it

1235
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 2: went through the receiver's hands. Then then he got knocked

1236
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 2: down by a defender.

1237
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 1: But that's not a breakup.

1238
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 2: That's I was close, and fortunately he dropped the ball

1239
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 2: and we saw a lot of that with Purdue yesterday.

1240
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 2: So some of it had to do with execution, it

1241
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 2: had to do with coaches decision making, including the curious

1242
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 2: decision to go away from a running game that was dominating.

1243
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 2: Because Purdue had the dominating running game and we've had

1244
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 2: we've got no running game. I still believe, as much

1245
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 2: as I like the QB, as much as I like

1246
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 2: the quarter, the head coach's willingness to throw more, you

1247
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 2: are looking for a balance, and the Minnesota ground game

1248
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 2: has become nonexistent at this point. I don't think that sustainable,

1249
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 2: even maybe as soon as the Friday night game against

1250
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 2: the Nebraska Cornhuskers. In fact, if we look at let

1251
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 2: me see if I can get quickly the uh the

1252
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 2: Gophers schedule up, because we've talked about the fact that

1253
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 2: this is the this is the soft middle of the

1254
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 2: schedule in which they've got a great opportunity to I've

1255
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 2: got it.

1256
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: You ready, you got it?

1257
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we got We're hosting Nebraska Friday night.

1258
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 1: Then what correct?

1259
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 3: Then you go to Iowa, Okay, Then you go you

1260
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 3: host Michigan State.

1261
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 2: Okay, that's those are both winnable. Then comes a trip

1262
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 2: to Oregon. Yeah, that's less winnable. I'd say considerably less,

1263
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 2: notwithstanding if you got an Indiana's head coach and team.

1264
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 3: But go ahead, Yep, you have go to the high

1265
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 3: school stadium on Lake Michigan to play Northwestern. Yeah, and

1266
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 3: then you host Wisconsin.

1267
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go.

1268
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 2: So again the rest of the season, obviously, you have

1269
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 2: one game where you're gonna be prohibitive favorite underdogs.

1270
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: That's the that's Oregon. One would assume the rest of them.

1271
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 2: You probably won't be favorite in all of them, but

1272
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 2: you you have a chance to win them. Nebraska did Nebraska?

1273
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 2: Just what do Nebraska do Saturday? What do the Cornhuskers do?

1274
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: Good question?

1275
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 2: I haven't I'm surprised. I haven't heard from any Nebraska fans.

1276
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 2: We usually hear from them. They beat Maryland thirty four

1277
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 2: to thirty one. Okay, oh, Barnburner. I didn't get to

1278
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 2: see any of that game because I was a poxyed.

1279
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 2: I think that might have been the same time as

1280
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 2: as the Hoosiers. Oh, that's the other thing. As much

1281
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 2: as I really hate turning this into hoo's your hotline.

1282
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 2: So Indiana is up twenty thirteen, right, They're in position

1283
01:19:56,400 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 2: at least that they're not going to get embarrassed like

1284
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 2: they were a couple times last year when they played

1285
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 2: better teams, although even in one of those games it

1286
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 2: was not all that much of a blow out until

1287
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:07,799
Speaker 2: they botched a punt.

1288
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 1: But they're playing like they belong.

1289
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 2: And their quarterback gives up a pick six, bad throw

1290
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 2: undercut nicely by the defensive back. Place goes nuts. New

1291
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 2: ball game, second half, and you figure it's now twenty

1292
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 2: twenty and Oregon's going to do what Oregon's supposed to

1293
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 2: do and Indiana is going to receipd a little bit, right,

1294
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 2: I mean, that's it.

1295
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: They're kind of done.

1296
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 2: And what they do this, to me, this is the

1297
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,959
Speaker 2: greatest sign you've got something legitimate going on in Bloomington, Indiana.

1298
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 2: They took the ball right down the field, not for three,

1299
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 2: but for a touchdown. That to me was indicative of well,

1300
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 2: they're serious. These guys are this is a serious program

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01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 2: right now. No one's could possibly have seen it coming,

1302
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,759
Speaker 2: not to this degree, even after they had the success

1303
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 2: last year. I think it was it's cute, that's nice,

1304
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 2: but they're gonna fall right back down and they've done

1305
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 2: nothing of the sort, they've actually improved upon what they

1306
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 2: appeared to be a year ago, winning in a very

1307
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 2: difficult place to win. I think I think Ohio State

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01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 2: win and they're lost to them last year, if I'm

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01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 2: not mistaken, even though they ended up with a national championship,

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01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 2: that was the sign and really they continued to move

1311
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 2: the ball throughout the second half of that game and

1312
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 2: indeed to win it. So for the Gophers, they're in

1313
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 2: a stretch where if you're gonna make anything out of

1314
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 2: this season, beating two teams with a combined Big Ten

1315
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 2: record of oz to six, that's Rutgers, and who do

1316
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 2: we lose to Purdue? Yeah last or beat Purdue last night.

1317
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 2: That's not gonna you play who's in front of you.

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01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 2: But winning those two games as an eye test, and

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01:21:58,200 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 2: it's just as a sign of okay, So where is

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01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 2: this program at this year that ain't gonna get it done?

1321
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 2: Does Friday have the kind of opportunity to maybe to

1322
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 2: take it to the next step at least a little bit.

1323
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 2: It's not like beating Oregon. At Oregon that would be

1324
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 2: a big step, but it at least gives you a

1325
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 2: little bit more to draw on as well. I'm on

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01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 2: record as we start Eagles Week will start officially tomorrow,

1327
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 2: of saying that I think Wenz should be the starting

1328
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 2: quarterback a week from today high noon. Not me saying

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01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 2: he's going to play the Eagles and be great. Not

1330
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 2: me saying that he should be the Viking starter for

1331
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 2: the rest of the season. It's me looking at the

1332
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 2: current landscape, which is I think what most coaches do.

1333
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 2: Even though we want to play the kid and we

1334
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 2: want to get to it, we can't wait circumstances. It's

1335
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 2: not my fault, it's not Carson Wentz's fault, it's not

1336
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 2: Koc's fault that McCarthy can't stay healthy, and it's not

1337
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 2: an indictment of him that he can't stay healthy. But

1338
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 2: availability always factors into decision making. It changes decisions, and

1339
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 2: it should on occasion change decisions. Things get in the

1340
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:23,560
Speaker 2: way of whatever your best laid plans are, and I so,

1341
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 2: in my view, Wentz should start now.

1342
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people covering this team.

1343
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 2: We think that if McCarthy's healthy, he's going to start,

1344
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:35,440
Speaker 2: but we'll see, And I get the issue. If the

1345
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 2: Viking start Wentz, he plays well enough to win, then

1346
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 2: you have to play him against the Chargers, and then

1347
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 2: you're back to Now we're getting to you know, we're

1348
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 2: gonna get the halfway through the season. We haven't seen McCarthy.

1349
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be all about this supposed to be

1350
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 2: the year of the McCarthy. Well not again, not my fault.

1351
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 1: He got hurt.

1352
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 2: I had a couple of people in Texas late last week.

1353
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: You know the rule, you're a starter. You don't lose

1354
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 2: your job when you're injured. Yeah, you can, and you

1355
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 2: often do, especially when the individual involved has not really

1356
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 2: established himself. If you've got Peyton Manning in his prime,

1357
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 2: or you've got Joe Montana, yeah, there's a good chance

1358
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 2: that you're gonna hang on to that job while you

1359
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 2: get hurt.

1360
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 1: I just don't think enough has happened yet for j mac.

1361
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: But we'll see.

1362
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 2: The other X factor is could they use the vikings

1363
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 2: if they want to make a change, use the Wentz

1364
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 2: shoulder as part of the reason it's just left shoulder.

1365
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 2: But we haven't really had an update on all. Right, medically,

1366
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 2: is it anything, you know, is this something they're gonna

1367
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 2: have to treat, Is it something that could develop into,

1368
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 2: you know, something more serious? I'm assuming we'll get answers

1369
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 2: to all those quick questions once the UH week starts. Also,

1370
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 2: your club, as I mentioned, great opportunity to whip up on.

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01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 1: The Bengals. You're due you, you're so you've got in

1372
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: your last two weeks you tied and lost.

1373
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 2: Correct that that is correct much to your all because

1374
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 2: of special team is basically I mean, you're not going

1375
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 2: to go that far, but it a lot of it

1376
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,679
Speaker 2: is largely right. I mean the block field goal, despite

1377
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 2: the offense being terrible against Cleveland, they kicked make that

1378
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 2: field goal and just block the rushers.

1379
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 1: Normally they win that game.

1380
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,600
Speaker 2: So and then Dallas too, they're terrible as well, but

1381
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 2: Dallas defensively they stunk Cleveland.

1382
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: Offensively, we stunk. So hopefully they sync up today.

1383
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 2: Whoever is starting on the offensive line of defense line

1384
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 2: seem to be more important A quarterback, I'm fine with

1385
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 2: either QB. Yeah, Well, that there's I mean, we're not

1386
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 2: handling the run. You know, you could say college or

1387
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 2: pro level. We're not handling the run very well. Along

1388
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 2: the defensive lines and offensive line has very much been

1389
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 2: a work in progress for the Vikings and the offensive

1390
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 2: line in terms of at least running the ball for

1391
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 2: the golfers has been a disaster. Used to be the

1392
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:01,480
Speaker 2: kind of these strength.

1393
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: Of the team.

1394
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 2: Is it not slightly hypocritical to talk about how he

1395
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 2: needs more reps and playing preseason games with then I

1396
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 2: am reps from getting back in there now, not try

1397
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 2: to be argumentative, just saying, well, no, I don't think

1398
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 2: it's hypocritical, because I think the answer speaks for itself.

1399
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 2: He's answered his own question. There's nothing to lose in

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01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 2: the preseason. There is now something to lose. You have

1401
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:32,719
Speaker 2: to decide, is there is it too much to lose

1402
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 2: if you have another quarterback who's functioning and you want

1403
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 2: to ride that out a little bit when you have

1404
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 2: the guy who you've wanted to turn this thing over

1405
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 2: from the beginning, JJ McCarthy still trying to come back

1406
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 2: from injury. So no, I don't think there's any hypocrisy

1407
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 2: there at all. Now there is a catch twenty two

1408
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 2: eventually that the only way McCarthy gets better is to

1409
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 2: play in a regular season. But I'll say, for about

1410
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:05,759
Speaker 2: the plenty of time since the summer, the tricky part

1411
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 2: of threading the needle all along was building a veteran

1412
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 2: old in some cases roster and trying to meld that

1413
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 2: with basically a first year quarterback playing in his second year.

1414
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 2: You're kind of asking for trouble because it seems to

1415
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 2: be sending two different messages. And that's what makes That's

1416
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 2: what I think also opens the door. Wentz could be

1417
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,839
Speaker 2: terrible against the Eagles, or he may not play.

1418
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 1: McCarthy may be great.

1419
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 2: Against the Eagles, and then the story's done, probably for

1420
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 2: all intents and purposes for the upcoming season. So we'll

1421
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 2: have to see how that plays out. That is the

1422
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 2: beauty of the National Football League. It'st the adventure. It's

1423
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 2: watching the story play itself out, the sequencing, the twists

1424
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 2: and the turns. And we love each and every minute,

1425
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 2: each and every twist and turn for sure. Thank you

1426
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 2: for watching, Thank you indeed for listening. Great text today.

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Speaker 2: I'm back with guards the beginning at three o'clock on

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01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 2: tomorrow's show, All NFL.

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Speaker 1: The rest of the day, All NFL. Here we go standing.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you tomorrow three