WEBVTT - 11-5-25 Sloan with Kevin Burton

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to be an American idiot? Election night?

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<v Speaker 2>And in early one at that last night Good Morning,

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<v Speaker 2>Scott's Slow Show on seven hundred WYLW and the headline

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<v Speaker 2>of course DEM's sweep from Jersey to New York City

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<v Speaker 2>to Virginia to Anderson Township and so a blue I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's a blue wave. Let's have blue

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<v Speaker 2>maybe or a blue ripple because it's currently only been

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<v Speaker 2>a year since the Republican takeover. Nonetheless, to put things

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<v Speaker 2>in perspective, he's a pollster from Crosstown consulting in northern Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be Kevin Burton, who's consulted more than a

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<v Speaker 2>few people in this race. Kevin, welcome, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>A good day for you. I know your candidate's all

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<v Speaker 2>swept up right.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a good It was a good night. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all about understanding the political environment and running, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>running with that and it's that simple. But yeah, the

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<v Speaker 3>council race and the Mary race was called early. It

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<v Speaker 3>was a good night if you were them.

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<v Speaker 2>It was quickly we see that the midterm referendum that

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<v Speaker 2>the party in power is refuted at the mid term.

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<v Speaker 2>This feels like it's starting a little earlier. Am I

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<v Speaker 2>right about that? I mean, literally, it's been one of

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<v Speaker 2>a year a year into Trump's you know, Trump tom

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<v Speaker 2>across America, and I think, as you said before, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the standard beards of people at the top that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of set the tone. Are we starting to see that

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<v Speaker 2>swing earlier than ever before?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I would go back to even twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was very similar if people can remember, I know,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a long time ago. Trump. If Trump is

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<v Speaker 3>not on the top of the ticket, he is, he

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<v Speaker 3>has lost every election. Yeah, yeah, but Trump is the anomaly.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the one thing that when he is not

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<v Speaker 3>on top of the ticket, it is a whole different ballgame.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen it in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, twenty one, twenty two. Trump is the outlier.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I will say the biggest shock to

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<v Speaker 3>me was to see New Jersey, which you know Trump

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<v Speaker 3>did so well. Yes he lost, but he got it

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<v Speaker 3>within five which was kind of unheard of for instant

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<v Speaker 3>wing back to I believe it was like fifteen or

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<v Speaker 3>you know, all the inroads he made in the minority

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<v Speaker 3>communities like in it really shifted back. And it's as

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<v Speaker 3>simple as it's the economy stupid. You know, every election

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<v Speaker 3>is about the wallet. And if you're in power, you

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and people are having hardships, they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>take it out on you. And a lot of ways,

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<v Speaker 3>the Trump administration is doing the same problem that Biden did,

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<v Speaker 3>downplaying inflation and down playing how much the average person's hurting. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, your four oh one k might be doing well,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's not everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean I think you know, that's illustrative

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<v Speaker 2>of New York City with Mom Donnie. He feels like

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<v Speaker 2>the he feels like the anti Trump because total grassroots effort,

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<v Speaker 2>right in social media. He's going to clubs, he's hanging

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<v Speaker 2>out with younger voters, the youngest voters, social media, digital campaign,

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<v Speaker 2>no TV, he's not doing Good Morning America, no legacy media,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing like that. And he just simply comes out of

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<v Speaker 2>nowhere and reset how politics is going to be run

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<v Speaker 2>in the future, for sure, And so he blasts the

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<v Speaker 2>gen zs, the young millennials, and they have now arrived.

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<v Speaker 1>As a voting block. Now that's New York City. That's different.

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<v Speaker 2>But but again that starts there in a pretty young city,

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<v Speaker 2>and that wave kind of sweeps this way as we

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<v Speaker 2>saw what happened in Anderson Township for example.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know, from an Donnie he is one

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<v Speaker 3>of those just regardless of what you think of him politically,

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<v Speaker 3>he has the aura. He has it, Yeah, he does.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, and it's actually very similar to bouth

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<v Speaker 3>the Obama and Trump that he came out of nowhere

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<v Speaker 3>and it was a meteoric rise and he captured the

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<v Speaker 3>soul of the voter. And that's something that no consultant

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<v Speaker 3>can tell you to do. You just have it or

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<v Speaker 3>you're not. But then for Anderson, you know that Anderson's

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<v Speaker 3>completely shocking to get back to the local side. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>in twelve years, it went from being a super red

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<v Speaker 3>you know township to now almost all blue. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, two Republican trustees replaced by two Democrats on

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<v Speaker 2>the three member panel. And also I'll point out the

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<v Speaker 2>Foesil school board flipped the blue as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, so you know, it's very interesting because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>during the Trump era of politics, we have seen rural

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<v Speaker 3>areas get redder, cities get bluer, and really the suburbs,

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<v Speaker 3>the Anderson townships, the you know Florence, Kentuckys of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are what decide really national elections, state elections, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know they swung for Trump last year, yep, but

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<v Speaker 3>they came back overwhelmingly now to the which I'm always shocked.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never met someone who is a swing voter. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you guys are you guys are amazing. I would

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<v Speaker 3>love to meet you guys sometimes yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The imaginery, yeah, but the election out they're lost in

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<v Speaker 2>one in the suburbs because, as you mentioned, the rural

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<v Speaker 2>areas are pretty red. The cities urban air is pretty blue.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're seeing the blue kind of sweep to areas.

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<v Speaker 2>You know years ago was Montgomery and Blue Ash and

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<v Speaker 2>it's Anderson Township.

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<v Speaker 3>It is. And you know, so that's going forward for

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six eight, all resources for either party should just

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<v Speaker 3>be all put in to the Anderson townships type, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the suburbs, because that's where you win or lose election.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how Joe Biden won in twenty twenty, That's how

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump won in twenty four the suburbs. So all

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<v Speaker 3>resources going forward, I would not be shocked if you sawid.

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<v Speaker 3>Both sides just pour heavily into you know, digital grassroots

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<v Speaker 3>knocking in the suburbs because that's where you win or

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<v Speaker 3>lose an election. You're not going to win or lose

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<v Speaker 3>the election in rural if you're Republicans, or the city

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<v Speaker 3>if you're dom So you got to turn you got

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<v Speaker 3>to get the suburbs voters.

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<v Speaker 2>Right well, I'll even point out where I am and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like in Mason and Warren County that's been

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<v Speaker 2>deep red for a long time, pretty red for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, but even that we're starting to see change.

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<v Speaker 2>Emmy Greg Landsman one reelection there and we'll see what

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<v Speaker 2>happens with the registering of Him'm going to get him

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<v Speaker 2>on the show in the next few days to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that. But I know, it's like the council is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of flipping, maybe not blue, but more moderate. In

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<v Speaker 2>the past, it used to be really really rock ribbed,

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<v Speaker 2>super Trump mega, even though their mega candidate missed getting

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<v Speaker 2>elected for the second or third time. So it's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>how even Warren County, which is pretty red, is starting

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<v Speaker 2>to get back towards the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, and elections are always a pendulum, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they go one way and they and right now we're

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<v Speaker 3>kind of getting back to the middle. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for Hamilton County, when I first started, it was a

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<v Speaker 3>swing county and now every single basically elected official from

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<v Speaker 3>judges all the way down are all blue. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>just in a very fascinating political shift during the Trump era.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, in school, you would always learn about the

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixty eight, the civil rights era, how it changed

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<v Speaker 3>the map, and it's very similar now. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Trump has changed the political landscape and how you win elections,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just been fascinating for someone for what I do,

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<v Speaker 3>how to get you know, the fifty plus one vote

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<v Speaker 3>to win an election, and that's been the biggest change

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<v Speaker 3>during the Trump era.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so this is more a referend amount affordability in

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<v Speaker 2>the pocketbook or Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 1>Are both? I think it's both.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, yes, you know, Madonna really hit

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<v Speaker 3>on something and I think I want to be shocked

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<v Speaker 3>as Democrats to play on this nationally. Yeah, Elon Mosk,

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff Bezos are getting how much more billions while you're

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<v Speaker 3>struggling to pay for eggs? Easy affordability. Affordability will always

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<v Speaker 3>be the number one issue I know James Carville and

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<v Speaker 3>I said it earlier. It's the economy stupid always yeah, yeah, always, yeah, always,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the number one issue. And frankly, if people are

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<v Speaker 3>feeling it at home, they're going to take out their

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<v Speaker 3>frustration on the ballot box.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>You know Trump saying, Hey, I'm gonna come in the

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<v Speaker 2>first day, You're gonna get more money, it's gonna be overnight.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna fix all these things and make these grandiose

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<v Speaker 2>promises on the campaign trail, which politicians often do, but

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trumps has really turned that out. Its ear like

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<v Speaker 2>he's really good at it. If it's been a year

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<v Speaker 2>later and you're seeing things get worse, stagnant, or just

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<v Speaker 2>simply not better, uh, then you go to the alternative

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<v Speaker 2>and now you've got a guy like mom daddy making

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<v Speaker 2>these promises, which we'll see what happens in the year.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm guessing a lot of this stuff's simply not

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen. I wonder and again, three years from now,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he is your Democratic front runner. If he can

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<v Speaker 2>be successful, I doubt it, but we'll see about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>free buses, and we're gonna freeze rent and we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>how that works out. But back to the local race here,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not surprised by aftabs win. I said, I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna win. You never want to say never, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's more than likely. If our betting, I

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<v Speaker 2>would bet handily that he would have won the election

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<v Speaker 2>he did. But are you surprised by the margin that

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<v Speaker 2>he won by him almost eight and ten voters.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I thought my over or under for him was

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<v Speaker 3>about sixty five seventy percent. But it also just speaks

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<v Speaker 3>to how well of a machine he has. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>aftab has won every election besides the one against Shabbit,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a self inflected wound, and the city is

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<v Speaker 3>just that blue. You know, Harris won seventy five to

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five. So it's very similar to the Harris number,

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<v Speaker 3>And it just points to all the outside noise on

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<v Speaker 3>social media and talk radio and everything city. The people

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<v Speaker 3>in the city actually don't care. They care about you know,

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<v Speaker 3>issues about rent, about social issues, and you know, for

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<v Speaker 3>Astap this gives him a referendum like he has a mandate,

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<v Speaker 3>like so with the police chief, the city manager. When

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<v Speaker 3>you win almost eighty percent, I don't care who you are.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a lot of cliche now, so it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be very interesting to see how he does that. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he his campaign was very kind of smart.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't try to make too much of an issue.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. Props to him and his team. They clearly

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<v Speaker 3>knew what they were doing, and it shows last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it did. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the way they handle a lot of these

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<v Speaker 2>things relative to crime was not good at all. Does

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<v Speaker 2>that just empower them to do more of the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Bubble down on this because I get I don't live

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<v Speaker 2>in the city, and I know the crime isn't rampant downtown.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just areas and pockets that are difficult. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the policies and quite honestly, the missteps and incompetence

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<v Speaker 2>how they handle Terry Sieg Now, they as voters didn't

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<v Speaker 2>give a damn and you know that he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to please me.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to please voters. I get that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But does that just give them more leeway to go, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't care about this. I can I can definitely,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I can get police officials to charge folks

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<v Speaker 2>after the fact, and I can you know, suspend someone

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<v Speaker 2>before I fire them and voters don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he just going to do more of that?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, at the end of the day, when you're

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<v Speaker 3>an elected official, you know the voters are the people

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<v Speaker 3>who keep you in check. And when you win eighty

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<v Speaker 3>percent and when you sweep all council, the voters have

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<v Speaker 3>clearly made up what they think is the most important issue.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know them swept all counsel. They swept them

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<v Speaker 3>as all the trustees, school boards and Handlton County, so

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<v Speaker 3>you know the crime issue is not as big of

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<v Speaker 3>an issue to the voters of Hamilton County as it appeared.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that makes total sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Scott's Olondlaw with Jeff Jeff Kevin Burton from Crosstown Consultanting.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an upholster and political wonk if you will, had

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<v Speaker 2>a hand in a number of the people winning election

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<v Speaker 2>last night in the local area, and just some observations

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<v Speaker 2>as to why the dem swept and what is behind

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<v Speaker 2>this whole thing pocketbook, they'd be affordability and the Trump

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<v Speaker 2>factor as well are influencing races, not just on the

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<v Speaker 2>East Coast with Jersey and Virginia and New York City,

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<v Speaker 2>but also places like Anderson Township where you saw two

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<v Speaker 2>Republican trustees replaced by two Democrats. They flipped that blue

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<v Speaker 2>and Forestil School Board as well. Not surprised by aftabs win,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that, okay, I said, you know, Aftabs is

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<v Speaker 2>going to win this election. I'm pretty sure of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought that there would be a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more upheaval on city Council.

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<v Speaker 3>And that just speaks to this power of the blue

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<v Speaker 3>slate card. You know that it was actually very remarkable

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<v Speaker 3>because I think even the biggest Dems would have told you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think eight out of nine. Ryan James was always

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<v Speaker 3>the question mark, as you know, someone who's not on

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<v Speaker 3>council and list heating rant a perfect race. But at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the day, the numbers are what the

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<v Speaker 3>numbers are. There's nothing more that she could have done.

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<v Speaker 3>She raised a bowloado of money, she did a blitz

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<v Speaker 3>at the end, but the numbers are what the numbers are.

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<v Speaker 3>And the blue slate card that you see when you

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<v Speaker 3>go to a poll, if you're in the City of

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<v Speaker 3>Cincinnati or Hamilton County, it's undefeated now it you know.

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<v Speaker 3>The biggest elections going forward in the city will be

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<v Speaker 3>the primaries similar to Columbus Cleveland. And that's just how much,

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<v Speaker 3>in you know, fifteen years, it has changed from being

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<v Speaker 3>you had to be this moderate on either side to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, win an election, to now where it's solid blue.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you're gonna start seeing in the new

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<v Speaker 3>upcoming elections primary start to get nasty because that's the

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<v Speaker 3>real election, now.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, gotcha? Your top vote getters.

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<v Speaker 2>Michelleman Kearney was number one, Scottie Johnson, Mika Owens is new,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll be Jefferies Walsh, Kramer, Ding Nolan and Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>James and just missing again. I just had her on

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<v Speaker 2>the other day. I think she's wonderful. Liz Keating, who

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<v Speaker 2>went totally in on the crime thing, as well as

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Smitheman, Lakeda Cole. They all went to crime, crime, crime, crime,

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<v Speaker 2>and it didn't matter because Liz Keith Anthony for the

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<v Speaker 2>second election now just narrowly missed that ninth seat.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and to her and her team, they ran, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback, but they

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<v Speaker 3>ran as good as the race. I don't really know

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<v Speaker 3>anything they could have done differently, but when a city

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<v Speaker 3>votes seventy five to twenty five, you know, for the

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<v Speaker 3>mayor or eighty twenty in this case, it's very hard

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<v Speaker 3>to overcome that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I mean it's that simple, right, right, But

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a promise there because Mika Owens came

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<v Speaker 4>as a charter right and she finished surprisingly third, beating

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<v Speaker 4>out a lot of the incumbents there with the most

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<v Speaker 4>number of votes behind Lemon Kearney and Johnson.

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<v Speaker 3>MICA's endorsed by the Hamilton County Democratic Democrats.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, you're right, the

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<v Speaker 5>charter Yeah, but you know, it's amazing and basically ten

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<v Speaker 5>years the charter rights went basically extinct, which they were,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, a large part.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Cincinnati politics since the nineteen twenties. But they just

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<v Speaker 3>they just don't have the juice anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, What do you attribute that?

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<v Speaker 2>Just the fact that we're it's a two party state

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<v Speaker 2>and that's all because I mean we had charter you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been here for twenty years and there are plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of charter rights that did wonderful and work and represented

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<v Speaker 2>well and went why can't they get traction?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? It's national. I mean, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>politics now has become so national. You know, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>you're either with us or against stuff, and people just

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<v Speaker 3>now you know the social media age that there's no

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<v Speaker 3>wiggle room. No. And secondly, the charter right, this is

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<v Speaker 3>very wonky now, and I'm gonna apologize. It's actually a

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<v Speaker 3>committee and not a party with the state. So it

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<v Speaker 3>also hurts some of their resources. So it's not like

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<v Speaker 3>the Green Party, because you know, you have national stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>They just lack the resources. And frankly, when the earned

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<v Speaker 3>media for either the R or the D are trillions

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<v Speaker 3>of dollars every year, there's nothing you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Kevin Burton with Crosstown Consulting Other Kentucky. Congratulations on

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<v Speaker 2>your slate of winners. Area went six or six in

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<v Speaker 2>this I know Kevin and I always love the insight

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<v Speaker 2>the polster and why we vote the way we voted yesterday. Kevin,

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<v Speaker 2>all the best, Thanks again.

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<v Speaker 1>But you do well.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I got to get a news update in

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<v Speaker 2>I believe Frank Marzula is standing by from WCPO nine.

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<v Speaker 2>He's down in Louisville. The very latest on that ups

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<v Speaker 2>plane crash. We'll get back to some of this election

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<v Speaker 2>related stuff. Lots to do on this Wednesday morning. Sloaney

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred ww