Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American idiot? Election night?
Speaker 2: And in early one at that last night Good Morning,
Speaker 2: Scott's Slow Show on seven hundred WYLW and the headline
Speaker 2: of course DEM's sweep from Jersey to New York City
Speaker 2: to Virginia to Anderson Township and so a blue I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's a blue wave. Let's have blue
Speaker 2: maybe or a blue ripple because it's currently only been
Speaker 2: a year since the Republican takeover. Nonetheless, to put things
Speaker 2: in perspective, he's a pollster from Crosstown consulting in northern Kentucky.
Speaker 2: That would be Kevin Burton, who's consulted more than a
Speaker 2: few people in this race. Kevin, welcome, how are you?
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me Scott.
Speaker 2: A good day for you. I know your candidate's all
Speaker 2: swept up right.
Speaker 3: It was a good It was a good night. You know,
Speaker 3: it's all about understanding the political environment and running, you know,
Speaker 3: running with that and it's that simple. But yeah, the
Speaker 3: council race and the Mary race was called early. It
Speaker 3: was a good night if you were them.
Speaker 2: It was quickly we see that the midterm referendum that
Speaker 2: the party in power is refuted at the mid term.
Speaker 2: This feels like it's starting a little earlier. Am I
Speaker 2: right about that? I mean, literally, it's been one of
Speaker 2: a year a year into Trump's you know, Trump tom
Speaker 2: across America, and I think, as you said before, it's
Speaker 2: the standard beards of people at the top that kind
Speaker 2: of set the tone. Are we starting to see that
Speaker 2: swing earlier than ever before?
Speaker 3: I mean, I would go back to even twenty seventeen,
Speaker 3: and it was very similar if people can remember, I know,
Speaker 3: it was a long time ago. Trump. If Trump is
Speaker 3: not on the top of the ticket, he is, he
Speaker 3: has lost every election. Yeah, yeah, but Trump is the anomaly.
Speaker 3: And that's the one thing that when he is not
Speaker 3: on top of the ticket, it is a whole different ballgame.
Speaker 3: We've seen it in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
Speaker 3: you know, twenty one, twenty two. Trump is the outlier.
Speaker 3: And you know, I will say the biggest shock to
Speaker 3: me was to see New Jersey, which you know Trump
Speaker 3: did so well. Yes he lost, but he got it
Speaker 3: within five which was kind of unheard of for instant
Speaker 3: wing back to I believe it was like fifteen or
Speaker 3: you know, all the inroads he made in the minority
Speaker 3: communities like in it really shifted back. And it's as
Speaker 3: simple as it's the economy stupid. You know, every election
Speaker 3: is about the wallet. And if you're in power, you
Speaker 3: you know, and people are having hardships, they're going to
Speaker 3: take it out on you. And a lot of ways,
Speaker 3: the Trump administration is doing the same problem that Biden did,
Speaker 3: downplaying inflation and down playing how much the average person's hurting. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, your four oh one k might be doing well,
Speaker 3: but that's not everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think you know, that's illustrative
Speaker 2: of New York City with Mom Donnie. He feels like
Speaker 2: the he feels like the anti Trump because total grassroots effort,
Speaker 2: right in social media. He's going to clubs, he's hanging
Speaker 2: out with younger voters, the youngest voters, social media, digital campaign,
Speaker 2: no TV, he's not doing Good Morning America, no legacy media,
Speaker 2: nothing like that. And he just simply comes out of
Speaker 2: nowhere and reset how politics is going to be run
Speaker 2: in the future, for sure, And so he blasts the
Speaker 2: gen zs, the young millennials, and they have now arrived.
Speaker 1: As a voting block. Now that's New York City. That's different.
Speaker 2: But but again that starts there in a pretty young city,
Speaker 2: and that wave kind of sweeps this way as we
Speaker 2: saw what happened in Anderson Township for example.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, from an Donnie he is one
Speaker 3: of those just regardless of what you think of him politically,
Speaker 3: he has the aura. He has it, Yeah, he does.
Speaker 3: And you know, and it's actually very similar to bouth
Speaker 3: the Obama and Trump that he came out of nowhere
Speaker 3: and it was a meteoric rise and he captured the
Speaker 3: soul of the voter. And that's something that no consultant
Speaker 3: can tell you to do. You just have it or
Speaker 3: you're not. But then for Anderson, you know that Anderson's
Speaker 3: completely shocking to get back to the local side. You know,
Speaker 3: in twelve years, it went from being a super red
Speaker 3: you know township to now almost all blue. Yep.
Speaker 2: So yeah, two Republican trustees replaced by two Democrats on
Speaker 2: the three member panel. And also I'll point out the
Speaker 2: Foesil school board flipped the blue as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so you know, it's very interesting because you know,
Speaker 3: during the Trump era of politics, we have seen rural
Speaker 3: areas get redder, cities get bluer, and really the suburbs,
Speaker 3: the Anderson townships, the you know Florence, Kentuckys of the world.
Speaker 3: Those are what decide really national elections, state elections, and
Speaker 3: you know they swung for Trump last year, yep, but
Speaker 3: they came back overwhelmingly now to the which I'm always shocked.
Speaker 3: I've never met someone who is a swing voter. And
Speaker 3: if you guys are you guys are amazing. I would
Speaker 3: love to meet you guys sometimes yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: The imaginery, yeah, but the election out they're lost in
Speaker 2: one in the suburbs because, as you mentioned, the rural
Speaker 2: areas are pretty red. The cities urban air is pretty blue.
Speaker 2: But we're seeing the blue kind of sweep to areas.
Speaker 2: You know years ago was Montgomery and Blue Ash and
Speaker 2: it's Anderson Township.
Speaker 3: It is. And you know, so that's going forward for
Speaker 3: twenty six eight, all resources for either party should just
Speaker 3: be all put in to the Anderson townships type, you know,
Speaker 3: the suburbs, because that's where you win or lose election.
Speaker 3: That's how Joe Biden won in twenty twenty, That's how
Speaker 3: Donald Trump won in twenty four the suburbs. So all
Speaker 3: resources going forward, I would not be shocked if you sawid.
Speaker 3: Both sides just pour heavily into you know, digital grassroots
Speaker 3: knocking in the suburbs because that's where you win or
Speaker 3: lose an election. You're not going to win or lose
Speaker 3: the election in rural if you're Republicans, or the city
Speaker 3: if you're dom So you got to turn you got
Speaker 3: to get the suburbs voters.
Speaker 2: Right well, I'll even point out where I am and
Speaker 2: you know, like in Mason and Warren County that's been
Speaker 2: deep red for a long time, pretty red for a
Speaker 2: long time, but even that we're starting to see change.
Speaker 2: Emmy Greg Landsman one reelection there and we'll see what
Speaker 2: happens with the registering of Him'm going to get him
Speaker 2: on the show in the next few days to talk
Speaker 2: about that. But I know, it's like the council is
Speaker 2: kind of flipping, maybe not blue, but more moderate. In
Speaker 2: the past, it used to be really really rock ribbed,
Speaker 2: super Trump mega, even though their mega candidate missed getting
Speaker 2: elected for the second or third time. So it's interesting
Speaker 2: how even Warren County, which is pretty red, is starting
Speaker 2: to get back towards the middle.
Speaker 3: You know, and elections are always a pendulum, and you know,
Speaker 3: they go one way and they and right now we're
Speaker 3: kind of getting back to the middle. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: for Hamilton County, when I first started, it was a
Speaker 3: swing county and now every single basically elected official from
Speaker 3: judges all the way down are all blue. So it's
Speaker 3: just in a very fascinating political shift during the Trump era.
Speaker 3: You know, in school, you would always learn about the
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty eight, the civil rights era, how it changed
Speaker 3: the map, and it's very similar now. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: Trump has changed the political landscape and how you win elections,
Speaker 3: and it's just been fascinating for someone for what I do,
Speaker 3: how to get you know, the fifty plus one vote
Speaker 3: to win an election, and that's been the biggest change
Speaker 3: during the Trump era.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is more a referend amount affordability in
Speaker 2: the pocketbook or Donald Trump?
Speaker 1: Are both? I think it's both.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, yes, you know, Madonna really hit
Speaker 3: on something and I think I want to be shocked
Speaker 3: as Democrats to play on this nationally. Yeah, Elon Mosk,
Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos are getting how much more billions while you're
Speaker 3: struggling to pay for eggs? Easy affordability. Affordability will always
Speaker 3: be the number one issue I know James Carville and
Speaker 3: I said it earlier. It's the economy stupid always yeah, yeah, always, yeah, always,
Speaker 3: it's the number one issue. And frankly, if people are
Speaker 3: feeling it at home, they're going to take out their
Speaker 3: frustration on the ballot box.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's true.
Speaker 2: You know Trump saying, Hey, I'm gonna come in the
Speaker 2: first day, You're gonna get more money, it's gonna be overnight.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fix all these things and make these grandiose
Speaker 2: promises on the campaign trail, which politicians often do, but
Speaker 2: Donald Trumps has really turned that out. Its ear like
Speaker 2: he's really good at it. If it's been a year
Speaker 2: later and you're seeing things get worse, stagnant, or just
Speaker 2: simply not better, uh, then you go to the alternative
Speaker 2: and now you've got a guy like mom daddy making
Speaker 2: these promises, which we'll see what happens in the year.
Speaker 2: And I'm guessing a lot of this stuff's simply not
Speaker 2: going to happen. I wonder and again, three years from now,
Speaker 2: maybe he is your Democratic front runner. If he can
Speaker 2: be successful, I doubt it, but we'll see about you know,
Speaker 2: free buses, and we're gonna freeze rent and we'll see
Speaker 2: how that works out. But back to the local race here,
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised by aftabs win. I said, I think
Speaker 2: he's gonna win. You never want to say never, but
Speaker 2: I think he's more than likely. If our betting, I
Speaker 2: would bet handily that he would have won the election
Speaker 2: he did. But are you surprised by the margin that
Speaker 2: he won by him almost eight and ten voters.
Speaker 3: Yes, I thought my over or under for him was
Speaker 3: about sixty five seventy percent. But it also just speaks
Speaker 3: to how well of a machine he has. I mean,
Speaker 3: aftab has won every election besides the one against Shabbit,
Speaker 3: which is a self inflected wound, and the city is
Speaker 3: just that blue. You know, Harris won seventy five to
Speaker 3: twenty five. So it's very similar to the Harris number,
Speaker 3: And it just points to all the outside noise on
Speaker 3: social media and talk radio and everything city. The people
Speaker 3: in the city actually don't care. They care about you know,
Speaker 3: issues about rent, about social issues, and you know, for
Speaker 3: Astap this gives him a referendum like he has a mandate,
Speaker 3: like so with the police chief, the city manager. When
Speaker 3: you win almost eighty percent, I don't care who you are.
Speaker 3: You have a lot of cliche now, so it's gonna
Speaker 3: be very interesting to see how he does that. And
Speaker 3: you know, he his campaign was very kind of smart.
Speaker 3: They didn't try to make too much of an issue.
Speaker 3: You know. Props to him and his team. They clearly
Speaker 3: knew what they were doing, and it shows last night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it did. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think the way they handle a lot of these
Speaker 2: things relative to crime was not good at all. Does
Speaker 2: that just empower them to do more of the same.
Speaker 2: Bubble down on this because I get I don't live
Speaker 2: in the city, and I know the crime isn't rampant downtown.
Speaker 2: There's just areas and pockets that are difficult. A lot
Speaker 2: of the policies and quite honestly, the missteps and incompetence
Speaker 2: how they handle Terry Sieg Now, they as voters didn't
Speaker 2: give a damn and you know that he doesn't have
Speaker 2: to please me.
Speaker 1: You have to please voters. I get that whole thing.
Speaker 2: But does that just give them more leeway to go, Okay, well,
Speaker 2: they don't care about this. I can I can definitely,
Speaker 2: you know, I can get police officials to charge folks
Speaker 2: after the fact, and I can you know, suspend someone
Speaker 2: before I fire them and voters don't care.
Speaker 1: Is he just going to do more of that?
Speaker 3: I mean, at the end of the day, when you're
Speaker 3: an elected official, you know the voters are the people
Speaker 3: who keep you in check. And when you win eighty
Speaker 3: percent and when you sweep all council, the voters have
Speaker 3: clearly made up what they think is the most important issue.
Speaker 3: So you know them swept all counsel. They swept them
Speaker 3: as all the trustees, school boards and Handlton County, so
Speaker 3: you know the crime issue is not as big of
Speaker 3: an issue to the voters of Hamilton County as it appeared.
Speaker 1: No, that makes total sense.
Speaker 2: Scott's Olondlaw with Jeff Jeff Kevin Burton from Crosstown Consultanting.
Speaker 2: He's an upholster and political wonk if you will, had
Speaker 2: a hand in a number of the people winning election
Speaker 2: last night in the local area, and just some observations
Speaker 2: as to why the dem swept and what is behind
Speaker 2: this whole thing pocketbook, they'd be affordability and the Trump
Speaker 2: factor as well are influencing races, not just on the
Speaker 2: East Coast with Jersey and Virginia and New York City,
Speaker 2: but also places like Anderson Township where you saw two
Speaker 2: Republican trustees replaced by two Democrats. They flipped that blue
Speaker 2: and Forestil School Board as well. Not surprised by aftabs win,
Speaker 2: I thought that, okay, I said, you know, Aftabs is
Speaker 2: going to win this election. I'm pretty sure of it.
Speaker 2: But I thought that there would be a little bit
Speaker 2: more upheaval on city Council.
Speaker 3: And that just speaks to this power of the blue
Speaker 3: slate card. You know that it was actually very remarkable
Speaker 3: because I think even the biggest Dems would have told you.
Speaker 3: I think eight out of nine. Ryan James was always
Speaker 3: the question mark, as you know, someone who's not on
Speaker 3: council and list heating rant a perfect race. But at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, the numbers are what the
Speaker 3: numbers are. There's nothing more that she could have done.
Speaker 3: She raised a bowloado of money, she did a blitz
Speaker 3: at the end, but the numbers are what the numbers are.
Speaker 3: And the blue slate card that you see when you
Speaker 3: go to a poll, if you're in the City of
Speaker 3: Cincinnati or Hamilton County, it's undefeated now it you know.
Speaker 3: The biggest elections going forward in the city will be
Speaker 3: the primaries similar to Columbus Cleveland. And that's just how much,
Speaker 3: in you know, fifteen years, it has changed from being
Speaker 3: you had to be this moderate on either side to
Speaker 3: you know, win an election, to now where it's solid blue.
Speaker 3: And I think you're gonna start seeing in the new
Speaker 3: upcoming elections primary start to get nasty because that's the
Speaker 3: real election, now.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? Your top vote getters.
Speaker 2: Michelleman Kearney was number one, Scottie Johnson, Mika Owens is new,
Speaker 2: and I'll be Jefferies Walsh, Kramer, Ding Nolan and Ryan
Speaker 2: James and just missing again. I just had her on
Speaker 2: the other day. I think she's wonderful. Liz Keating, who
Speaker 2: went totally in on the crime thing, as well as
Speaker 2: Chris Smitheman, Lakeda Cole. They all went to crime, crime, crime, crime,
Speaker 2: and it didn't matter because Liz Keith Anthony for the
Speaker 2: second election now just narrowly missed that ninth seat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to her and her team, they ran, you know,
Speaker 3: it's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback, but they
Speaker 3: ran as good as the race. I don't really know
Speaker 3: anything they could have done differently, but when a city
Speaker 3: votes seventy five to twenty five, you know, for the
Speaker 3: mayor or eighty twenty in this case, it's very hard
Speaker 3: to overcome that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's that simple, right, right, But
Speaker 4: I think it's a promise there because Mika Owens came
Speaker 4: as a charter right and she finished surprisingly third, beating
Speaker 4: out a lot of the incumbents there with the most
Speaker 4: number of votes behind Lemon Kearney and Johnson.
Speaker 3: MICA's endorsed by the Hamilton County Democratic Democrats.
Speaker 5: I'm sure, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, you're right, the
Speaker 5: charter Yeah, but you know, it's amazing and basically ten
Speaker 5: years the charter rights went basically extinct, which they were,
Speaker 5: you know, a large part.
Speaker 3: Of Cincinnati politics since the nineteen twenties. But they just
Speaker 3: they just don't have the juice anymore.
Speaker 1: Right, What do you attribute that?
Speaker 2: Just the fact that we're it's a two party state
Speaker 2: and that's all because I mean we had charter you know,
Speaker 2: I've been here for twenty years and there are plenty
Speaker 2: of charter rights that did wonderful and work and represented
Speaker 2: well and went why can't they get traction?
Speaker 3: Uh? It's national. I mean, at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: politics now has become so national. You know, it's a
Speaker 3: you're either with us or against stuff, and people just
Speaker 3: now you know the social media age that there's no
Speaker 3: wiggle room. No. And secondly, the charter right, this is
Speaker 3: very wonky now, and I'm gonna apologize. It's actually a
Speaker 3: committee and not a party with the state. So it
Speaker 3: also hurts some of their resources. So it's not like
Speaker 3: the Green Party, because you know, you have national stuff.
Speaker 3: They just lack the resources. And frankly, when the earned
Speaker 3: media for either the R or the D are trillions
Speaker 3: of dollars every year, there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 2: He's Kevin Burton with Crosstown Consulting Other Kentucky. Congratulations on
Speaker 2: your slate of winners. Area went six or six in
Speaker 2: this I know Kevin and I always love the insight
Speaker 2: the polster and why we vote the way we voted yesterday. Kevin,
Speaker 2: all the best, Thanks again.
Speaker 1: But you do well.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
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