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Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American idiot? Election night?

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Speaker 2: And in early one at that last night Good Morning,

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Speaker 2: Scott's Slow Show on seven hundred WYLW and the headline

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Speaker 2: of course DEM's sweep from Jersey to New York City

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Speaker 2: to Virginia to Anderson Township and so a blue I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it's a blue wave. Let's have blue

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Speaker 2: maybe or a blue ripple because it's currently only been

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Speaker 2: a year since the Republican takeover. Nonetheless, to put things

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Speaker 2: in perspective, he's a pollster from Crosstown consulting in northern Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: That would be Kevin Burton, who's consulted more than a

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Speaker 2: few people in this race. Kevin, welcome, how are you?

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me Scott.

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Speaker 2: A good day for you. I know your candidate's all

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Speaker 2: swept up right.

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Speaker 3: It was a good It was a good night. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's all about understanding the political environment and running, you know,

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Speaker 3: running with that and it's that simple. But yeah, the

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Speaker 3: council race and the Mary race was called early. It

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Speaker 3: was a good night if you were them.

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Speaker 2: It was quickly we see that the midterm referendum that

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Speaker 2: the party in power is refuted at the mid term.

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Speaker 2: This feels like it's starting a little earlier. Am I

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Speaker 2: right about that? I mean, literally, it's been one of

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Speaker 2: a year a year into Trump's you know, Trump tom

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Speaker 2: across America, and I think, as you said before, it's

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Speaker 2: the standard beards of people at the top that kind

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Speaker 2: of set the tone. Are we starting to see that

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Speaker 2: swing earlier than ever before?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would go back to even twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 3: and it was very similar if people can remember, I know,

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Speaker 3: it was a long time ago. Trump. If Trump is

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Speaker 3: not on the top of the ticket, he is, he

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Speaker 3: has lost every election. Yeah, yeah, but Trump is the anomaly.

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Speaker 3: And that's the one thing that when he is not

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Speaker 3: on top of the ticket, it is a whole different ballgame.

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Speaker 3: We've seen it in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 3: you know, twenty one, twenty two. Trump is the outlier.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I will say the biggest shock to

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Speaker 3: me was to see New Jersey, which you know Trump

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Speaker 3: did so well. Yes he lost, but he got it

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Speaker 3: within five which was kind of unheard of for instant

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Speaker 3: wing back to I believe it was like fifteen or

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Speaker 3: you know, all the inroads he made in the minority

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Speaker 3: communities like in it really shifted back. And it's as

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Speaker 3: simple as it's the economy stupid. You know, every election

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Speaker 3: is about the wallet. And if you're in power, you

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Speaker 3: you know, and people are having hardships, they're going to

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Speaker 3: take it out on you. And a lot of ways,

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Speaker 3: the Trump administration is doing the same problem that Biden did,

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Speaker 3: downplaying inflation and down playing how much the average person's hurting. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, your four oh one k might be doing well,

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Speaker 3: but that's not everyone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think you know, that's illustrative

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Speaker 2: of New York City with Mom Donnie. He feels like

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Speaker 2: the he feels like the anti Trump because total grassroots effort,

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Speaker 2: right in social media. He's going to clubs, he's hanging

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Speaker 2: out with younger voters, the youngest voters, social media, digital campaign,

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Speaker 2: no TV, he's not doing Good Morning America, no legacy media,

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Speaker 2: nothing like that. And he just simply comes out of

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Speaker 2: nowhere and reset how politics is going to be run

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Speaker 2: in the future, for sure, And so he blasts the

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Speaker 2: gen zs, the young millennials, and they have now arrived.

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Speaker 1: As a voting block. Now that's New York City. That's different.

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Speaker 2: But but again that starts there in a pretty young city,

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Speaker 2: and that wave kind of sweeps this way as we

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Speaker 2: saw what happened in Anderson Township for example.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, from an Donnie he is one

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Speaker 3: And you know, and it's actually very similar to bouth

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Speaker 3: the Obama and Trump that he came out of nowhere

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Speaker 3: soul of the voter. And that's something that no consultant

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Speaker 3: can tell you to do. You just have it or

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Speaker 3: you're not. But then for Anderson, you know that Anderson's

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Speaker 3: completely shocking to get back to the local side. You know,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, two Republican trustees replaced by two Democrats on

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Speaker 2: Foesil school board flipped the blue as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so you know, it's very interesting because you know,

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Speaker 3: during the Trump era of politics, we have seen rural

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Speaker 3: you know they swung for Trump last year, yep, but

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Speaker 3: they came back overwhelmingly now to the which I'm always shocked.

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Speaker 3: I've never met someone who is a swing voter. And

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Speaker 3: if you guys are you guys are amazing. I would

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Speaker 2: The imaginery, yeah, but the election out they're lost in

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Speaker 2: But we're seeing the blue kind of sweep to areas.

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Speaker 2: You know years ago was Montgomery and Blue Ash and

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Speaker 3: It is. And you know, so that's going forward for

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Speaker 3: twenty six eight, all resources for either party should just

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Speaker 3: the suburbs, because that's where you win or lose election.

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Speaker 3: That's how Joe Biden won in twenty twenty, That's how

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump won in twenty four the suburbs. So all

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Speaker 3: resources going forward, I would not be shocked if you sawid.

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Speaker 3: Both sides just pour heavily into you know, digital grassroots

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Speaker 2: Right well, I'll even point out where I am and

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Speaker 2: you know, like in Mason and Warren County that's been

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Speaker 2: Emmy Greg Landsman one reelection there and we'll see what

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Speaker 2: happens with the registering of Him'm going to get him

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Speaker 2: on the show in the next few days to talk

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Speaker 2: about that. But I know, it's like the council is

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Speaker 2: kind of flipping, maybe not blue, but more moderate. In

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Speaker 2: the past, it used to be really really rock ribbed,

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Speaker 2: how even Warren County, which is pretty red, is starting

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Speaker 3: You know, and elections are always a pendulum, and you know,

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Speaker 3: just in a very fascinating political shift during the Trump era.

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Speaker 3: You know, in school, you would always learn about the

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Speaker 3: Trump has changed the political landscape and how you win elections,

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Speaker 3: and it's just been fascinating for someone for what I do,

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Speaker 3: how to get you know, the fifty plus one vote

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is more a referend amount affordability in

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Speaker 2: the pocketbook or Donald Trump?

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Speaker 1: Are both? I think it's both.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, yes, you know, Madonna really hit

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Speaker 3: as Democrats to play on this nationally. Yeah, Elon Mosk,

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Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos are getting how much more billions while you're

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Speaker 3: struggling to pay for eggs? Easy affordability. Affordability will always

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Speaker 3: be the number one issue I know James Carville and

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Speaker 3: I said it earlier. It's the economy stupid always yeah, yeah, always, yeah, always,

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Speaker 3: it's the number one issue. And frankly, if people are

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Speaker 3: feeling it at home, they're going to take out their

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's true.

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Speaker 2: You know Trump saying, Hey, I'm gonna come in the

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna fix all these things and make these grandiose

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Speaker 2: promises on the campaign trail, which politicians often do, but

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Speaker 2: Donald Trumps has really turned that out. Its ear like

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Speaker 2: he's really good at it. If it's been a year

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Speaker 2: later and you're seeing things get worse, stagnant, or just

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Speaker 2: simply not better, uh, then you go to the alternative

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Speaker 2: and now you've got a guy like mom daddy making

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Speaker 2: these promises, which we'll see what happens in the year.

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Speaker 2: And I'm guessing a lot of this stuff's simply not

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Speaker 2: going to happen. I wonder and again, three years from now,

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Speaker 2: maybe he is your Democratic front runner. If he can

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Speaker 2: be successful, I doubt it, but we'll see about you know,

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Speaker 2: free buses, and we're gonna freeze rent and we'll see

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Speaker 2: how that works out. But back to the local race here,

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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised by aftabs win. I said, I think

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Speaker 2: I think he's more than likely. If our betting, I

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Speaker 2: would bet handily that he would have won the election

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Speaker 2: he did. But are you surprised by the margin that

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Speaker 2: he won by him almost eight and ten voters.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I thought my over or under for him was

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Speaker 3: about sixty five seventy percent. But it also just speaks

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Speaker 3: which is a self inflected wound, and the city is

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Speaker 3: just that blue. You know, Harris won seventy five to

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Speaker 3: And it just points to all the outside noise on

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Speaker 3: issues about rent, about social issues, and you know, for

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Speaker 3: Astap this gives him a referendum like he has a mandate,

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Speaker 3: like so with the police chief, the city manager. When

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Speaker 3: you win almost eighty percent, I don't care who you are.

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Speaker 3: You have a lot of cliche now, so it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be very interesting to see how he does that. And

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Speaker 3: you know, he his campaign was very kind of smart.

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Speaker 3: They didn't try to make too much of an issue.

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Speaker 3: You know. Props to him and his team. They clearly

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it did. But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think the way they handle a lot of these

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Speaker 2: things relative to crime was not good at all. Does

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Speaker 2: that just empower them to do more of the same.

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Speaker 2: Bubble down on this because I get I don't live

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Speaker 2: in the city, and I know the crime isn't rampant downtown.

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Speaker 2: There's just areas and pockets that are difficult. A lot

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Speaker 2: of the policies and quite honestly, the missteps and incompetence

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Speaker 2: how they handle Terry Sieg Now, they as voters didn't

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Speaker 2: give a damn and you know that he doesn't have

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Speaker 2: to please me.

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Speaker 1: You have to please voters. I get that whole thing.

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Speaker 2: But does that just give them more leeway to go, Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: they don't care about this. I can I can definitely,

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Speaker 2: you know, I can get police officials to charge folks

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Speaker 2: after the fact, and I can you know, suspend someone

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Speaker 2: before I fire them and voters don't care.

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Speaker 1: Is he just going to do more of that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, at the end of the day, when you're

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Speaker 3: an elected official, you know the voters are the people

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Speaker 3: who keep you in check. And when you win eighty

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Speaker 3: percent and when you sweep all council, the voters have

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Speaker 3: clearly made up what they think is the most important issue.

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Speaker 3: So you know them swept all counsel. They swept them

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Speaker 3: as all the trustees, school boards and Handlton County, so

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Speaker 3: you know the crime issue is not as big of

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Speaker 3: an issue to the voters of Hamilton County as it appeared.

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Speaker 1: No, that makes total sense.

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Speaker 2: Scott's Olondlaw with Jeff Jeff Kevin Burton from Crosstown Consultanting.

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Speaker 2: He's an upholster and political wonk if you will, had

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Speaker 2: last night in the local area, and just some observations

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Speaker 2: as to why the dem swept and what is behind

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Speaker 2: this whole thing pocketbook, they'd be affordability and the Trump

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Speaker 2: factor as well are influencing races, not just on the

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Speaker 2: but also places like Anderson Township where you saw two

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Speaker 2: Republican trustees replaced by two Democrats. They flipped that blue

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Speaker 2: and Forestil School Board as well. Not surprised by aftabs win,

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Speaker 2: I thought that, okay, I said, you know, Aftabs is

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Speaker 2: going to win this election. I'm pretty sure of it.

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Speaker 2: But I thought that there would be a little bit

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Speaker 2: more upheaval on city Council.

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Speaker 3: And that just speaks to this power of the blue

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Speaker 3: I think eight out of nine. Ryan James was always

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Speaker 3: the question mark, as you know, someone who's not on

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Speaker 3: council and list heating rant a perfect race. But at

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Speaker 3: the end of the day, the numbers are what the

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Speaker 3: numbers are. There's nothing more that she could have done.

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Speaker 3: She raised a bowloado of money, she did a blitz

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Speaker 3: at the end, but the numbers are what the numbers are.

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Speaker 3: And the blue slate card that you see when you

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati or Hamilton County, it's undefeated now it you know.

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Speaker 3: The biggest elections going forward in the city will be

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Speaker 3: the primaries similar to Columbus Cleveland. And that's just how much,

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Speaker 3: in you know, fifteen years, it has changed from being

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Speaker 3: And I think you're gonna start seeing in the new

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Speaker 3: upcoming elections primary start to get nasty because that's the

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Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? Your top vote getters.

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Speaker 2: Michelleman Kearney was number one, Scottie Johnson, Mika Owens is new,

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Speaker 2: and I'll be Jefferies Walsh, Kramer, Ding Nolan and Ryan

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Speaker 2: James and just missing again. I just had her on

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Speaker 2: the other day. I think she's wonderful. Liz Keating, who

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Speaker 2: Chris Smitheman, Lakeda Cole. They all went to crime, crime, crime, crime,

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Speaker 2: and it didn't matter because Liz Keith Anthony for the

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Speaker 2: second election now just narrowly missed that ninth seat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and to her and her team, they ran, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback, but they

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Speaker 3: ran as good as the race. I don't really know

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Speaker 3: anything they could have done differently, but when a city

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Speaker 3: to overcome that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's that simple, right, right, But

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Speaker 4: I think it's a promise there because Mika Owens came

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Speaker 4: as a charter right and she finished surprisingly third, beating

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Speaker 3: MICA's endorsed by the Hamilton County Democratic Democrats.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, you're right, the

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Speaker 5: years the charter rights went basically extinct, which they were,

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Speaker 3: Of Cincinnati politics since the nineteen twenties. But they just

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Speaker 3: they just don't have the juice anymore.

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Speaker 1: Right, What do you attribute that?

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Speaker 2: Just the fact that we're it's a two party state

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Speaker 2: and that's all because I mean we had charter you know,

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Speaker 2: I've been here for twenty years and there are plenty

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Speaker 2: well and went why can't they get traction?

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Speaker 3: Uh? It's national. I mean, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: politics now has become so national. You know, it's a

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Speaker 3: you're either with us or against stuff, and people just

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Speaker 3: now you know the social media age that there's no

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Speaker 3: wiggle room. No. And secondly, the charter right, this is

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Speaker 3: very wonky now, and I'm gonna apologize. It's actually a

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Speaker 3: committee and not a party with the state. So it

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Speaker 3: also hurts some of their resources. So it's not like

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Speaker 3: the Green Party, because you know, you have national stuff.

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Speaker 3: They just lack the resources. And frankly, when the earned

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Speaker 3: media for either the R or the D are trillions

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Speaker 2: He's Kevin Burton with Crosstown Consulting Other Kentucky. Congratulations on

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Speaker 2: your slate of winners. Area went six or six in

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Speaker 2: this I know Kevin and I always love the insight

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Speaker 2: the polster and why we vote the way we voted yesterday. Kevin,

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Speaker 2: all the best, Thanks again.

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Speaker 1: But you do well.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: All right, I got to get a news update in

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Speaker 2: I believe Frank Marzula is standing by from WCPO nine.

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Speaker 2: He's down in Louisville. The very latest on that ups

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Speaker 2: plane crash. We'll get back to some of this election

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Speaker 2: related stuff. Lots to do on this Wednesday morning. Sloaney

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