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Speaker 1: Oh that rocky on a Friday. If you're back from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, back from deep South Statesboro, Georgia, charming little town

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Speaker 2: about an hour what I guess west of Savannah. So

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Speaker 2: uh and the Southern miss Yeah, yeah, we down there.

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Speaker 2: Should have visited Jay Rattle if I was down He

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Speaker 2: lives in Savannah, doesn't He was trying to get us

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Speaker 1: He's got the beach house. I know. I should should

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Speaker 1: have should have hit him up. But no.

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Speaker 2: But good to be here on a Friday, ed and

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Speaker 2: uh while I was well, it happened before I left.

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Speaker 2: But the big news, of course on the Bengals front,

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco, you're a boy straight from the Browns, is

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Speaker 2: now part of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk to our good friend, as we always

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Speaker 1: do this time every Friday. It's our our friend, Richard

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Speaker 1: Skinner Local twelve and skinny. What's the what is the

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Speaker 1: skinny on Flaco? As far as the you know, he'said

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Speaker 1: a couple of days to play with these guys.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's been a whirlwind week. We talked to

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Speaker 3: him today. It was funny and I'm writing a story

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Speaker 3: on him right now. And uh, the lead really involved

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Speaker 3: revolves are alway talked about. He hardly ever gets his

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Speaker 3: wife involved in like helping him regurgitate plays during the week,

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Speaker 3: he said, but I actually had to pull her in,

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Speaker 3: and he goes, she actually did pretty good. So what

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Speaker 3: happens is she'll like say a play and then he

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Speaker 3: has to say it back and kind of picture what

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Speaker 3: lot of quarterbacks do that to to kind of get

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Speaker 3: the flow of well, how they want to call it,

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Speaker 3: how it's supposed to be called, all those things, And

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Speaker 3: he said, she actually called it pretty well, because there's

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Speaker 3: a certain way you got to have it come out

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Speaker 3: way the words are presented. And I thought that was

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Speaker 3: pretty that's pretty good stuff. But I think that shows you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they have they have had the speed time warp,

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Speaker 3: getting him ready to learn a new offense to get

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Speaker 3: all and there's a lot to it, and it is

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Speaker 3: it's knowing, it's knowing the protection checks, it's knowing the checks,

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Speaker 3: it's knowing is this a run tag? And this a motion?

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Speaker 3: What are what are these things? And I mean you

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Speaker 3: got to do all that in a span of about

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Speaker 3: three days to get ready to play, and we'll find out.

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Speaker 3: I think it's it's it's fascinating to watch. It's at

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Speaker 3: least now interesting, right. I mean, the last three games

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Speaker 3: I don't know if this is gonna work or not.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they know if it's gonna work or not.

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Speaker 3: But it's at least interesting and we're gonna find out.

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Speaker 2: And bring up a good point about talking the play

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Speaker 2: call back. If you watch that series Quarterback on Netflix,

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Speaker 2: that's something I remember from that series that Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 2: would do.

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Speaker 1: He would record.

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Speaker 2: Himself on his phone saying the calls and repeating them back.

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Speaker 1: So that's one way to learn.

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Speaker 2: I also read something skinny about how he's gonna wear

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Speaker 2: a wristband and how is that gonna help? They have

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Speaker 2: the helmet, the helmet communication, but he's also gonna have

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Speaker 2: a wrist band.

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Speaker 1: Can you elaborate on that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And Joe Burrow has done that. In fact, Zach

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Speaker 3: Taylor told us today that that they do that almost

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Speaker 3: all the time on the road with the quarterbacks. He's like, hey, man,

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Speaker 3: I'll go play number twelve on your sheet, and that

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Speaker 3: way they can look down real quick at play number

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Speaker 3: twelve and spit the call out from there. So, Joe,

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Speaker 3: this is not new for really, for really the Bengals,

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Speaker 3: but it is interesting because I guess I've never paid

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Speaker 3: I guys, he has won it before. So it is

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Speaker 2: I have to imagine most of it is just verbiage.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the concepts are the same. It's just what

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Speaker 1: So that that's probably the biggest loophole here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no question. And you know you have forty seves

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Speaker 3: And now you're down to like fifteen seconds. And so

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Speaker 3: you see a different defensive look and you're you're expecting

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Speaker 3: You gotta seen some mother stuff. Well you know what

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Speaker 3: it's different from Joe Burrow who's done this in this

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Speaker 3: for three days for goodness sakes. That's a lot.

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Speaker 1: And we're talking to Richard Skinner and Rocket. This is

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Speaker 1: more of a question for you what is actually on

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Speaker 1: I've always wondered that what exactly is on those wristband

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Speaker 2: I assume, yes, it's usually just yeah, yeah, it's just

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Speaker 2: but yeah, it's just play called. Like Skinny said, the

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Speaker 2: easiest way to communicate is for Zach to commover the

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Speaker 2: headset and say run play five. And he looks down

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Speaker 3: Many of you eble de sensitive players in your day

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Speaker 3: try to rip that wrist band off of the quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Well, see, but that's the thing is, you know, you

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Speaker 2: would look at it and it would probably look like Chinese,

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Speaker 3: It would, but he would. But but there's the question.

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Speaker 3: Do they have backup wrist bands in case you're still there?

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's my big thing. But you stole

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Speaker 1: You're flying blind, brother, that's true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't have an extra laminated copy of the

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Speaker 1: You know what, that's a damn. The Benguishon Institute that

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Speaker 1: this week that might.

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Speaker 2: Help us get a little edge on somebody's wrist band.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Not on the play on the risk rules, that might

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Speaker 2: Richard Skinner's our guests and skinny uh and Joe Flagger

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Speaker 1: What's the story with this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he sent he's sent him home today

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Speaker 3: guess that an illness on a Friday doesn't mean a

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Speaker 1: And what about the packers skinning you?

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Speaker 2: having a heck of a year. Jordan loves a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Well, of course, the Bengals offensive line has struggled. There

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Speaker 3: So that's not good. And you're facing a Packer team

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Speaker 3: means he's bothering quarterbacks. Obviously, they bother quarterbacks. Now, Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 3: They've only played one game since the tie with Dallas

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Speaker 1: Let's take a winner or a loss out of it.

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco is going to have to have a positive

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Speaker 1: But take that out of there.

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking about what does a good day

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Speaker 2: for Joe Flacco look like? And for me, it's just

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Speaker 2: There'd be some guys opening a scheme and he was

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Speaker 1: What about you?

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Speaker 2: What is a a solid first game under tough circumstances

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Speaker 3: Good decisions with the football number one? And I know

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Speaker 3: it's if you're about to get sacked, thoughed in the

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Speaker 1: What a glorious year.

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Speaker 2: This band White Snake went to number one on the charts,

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Speaker 2: The route, Yes, and by great, it showed extremely hot

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I remember a kiss video would

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Speaker 2: Videos they even play music videos. I love good music videos,

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Speaker 1: to this fellow rattiot, our good friend John Mattarees from

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Speaker 1: WCPO nine News, and John, you were talking about this

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Speaker 1: Halloween candy sale. I don't know if it was last

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Speaker 1: week or two weeks ago, but yeah, ask me, is

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Speaker 1: it that I can actually afford to buy me a

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Speaker 1: bag of recent cups?

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Speaker 5: I guess yeah.

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Speaker 6: People have been asking me about this then we first

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Speaker 6: reported it about a week and a half ago. Because

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Speaker 6: candy is so expensive. I mean, you're going out now

444
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Speaker 6: this weekend, you're gonna be tempted to buy that candy,

445
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Speaker 6: and I mean those little bags are five dollars. I

446
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Speaker 6: mean that small bag of you know, the Hrshy seties

447
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Speaker 6: or the Yeah Reese's peanut butter cups, like around five

448
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Speaker 6: bucks no matter what story you go to, and you

449
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Speaker 6: know you need a whole bunch of that just in

450
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Speaker 6: the average family will spend sixty dollars six zero on

451
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Speaker 6: Halloween candy this year. So wow, that's expensive. So people

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Speaker 6: ask me when is the candy sale, and it's this

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Speaker 6: coming Wednesday. It starts Wednesday, October fifteenth at all Cincinnati

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Speaker 6: area Kroger stores are gonna have thirty percent off the

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Speaker 6: candy prices. So it's a real nice sale. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I've hit this several times in the past few years

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Speaker 6: and people always said to me, oh, when's that candy sales?

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Speaker 3: Last week? I missed it.

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Speaker 6: So you know you want to go to this coming

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Speaker 6: Wednesday and snap up all that candy Wednesday, Thursday, Friday

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Speaker 6: this week because you can get a little nice price

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Speaker 6: on it.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if it affects you that much, yety,

465
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Speaker 6: because you're going to be buying the really cheap stuff

466
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Speaker 6: like the candy, corn and the other stuff that the

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Speaker 6: kids don't want.

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Speaker 1: Hey, look, I give a kid a piece of candy

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Speaker 1: corn and uh, and I give them financial advice and

470
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Speaker 1: don't bet on a fat horse, that kind of thing,

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Speaker 1: and like, move along, kid, get off my lawn. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm giving them a like I think it's

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Speaker 1: a treat as a life lesson for many fingers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what.

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Speaker 6: The pop you know what the problem is with buying candy?

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Speaker 6: Now you go, you buy some bags of candy and like, honey,

477
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Speaker 6: I got some candy.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna put it right here in the pantry. And

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Speaker 3: then like every day the bag it's.

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Speaker 6: Smaller, you know, and then it's three days before Halloween.

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Speaker 6: It's like where did all the Reese's peanut butter cups go? Now?

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Speaker 2: But but to your point about the price that can

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Speaker 2: my wife just the other week, I was like, you know, hey, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, get some yeah whatever Reesey cups or something.

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Speaker 2: She's like, no, no, do you know how expensive candy is.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, candy, like cheap candy that's probably not even

487
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Speaker 2: real chocolate. That's that's that's expensive. And yeah, she said,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, it's absolutely insane.

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Speaker 1: And who knows why. I don't know who.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who's behind it. I blame Big Chocolate Ed.

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Speaker 2: That's why Y're right behind the whole thing. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to get to the bottom of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Nevertheless, you know that's the amazing thing.

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Speaker 3: You were mentioning that the quality. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 6: I mean you get some of that stuff at the

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Speaker 6: grocery store in the bags and you bite into it

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Speaker 6: and like, is this really chocolate. We just went out

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Speaker 6: to Fawn Candy. They've got a place in Rookwood and

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Speaker 6: they've got another one on Harrison Avenue out in Western Hills,

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Speaker 6: and it was amazing the difference. I mean, it's this delicious,

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Speaker 6: rich chocolate. I mean it was so good, and you know,

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Speaker 6: they were showing us, you know, how they make it

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Speaker 6: in the fact that the cocoa prices are up so much,

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Speaker 6: et cetera. But I'll tell you if you can, you know,

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Speaker 6: for your family, for the kids, your own kids, you

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Speaker 6: aland get to that locally made chocolate because that's the

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Speaker 6: real thing. Yeah, you get that stuff with the grocery

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Speaker 6: story like what is this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let me tell you something. A couple of

511
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Speaker 1: it was shooting with then the last month, dev had

512
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Speaker 1: been a Big Brothers Big Sisters here in town. Big brothers,

513
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Speaker 1: big sisters of Greater Cincinnati, I should say, And now

514
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Speaker 1: she's going to be happy. But he been there for

515
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Speaker 1: like ten years or whatever it's been. And her her

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Speaker 1: boss gave her a little gift bag that she bought

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Speaker 1: it Trader Joe's and it had Trader Joe's greasy cups

518
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Speaker 1: in it. You know of those little guys. Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you some of the guys. That's the next level

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Speaker 1: really different times. Well, it's like, you know, it's dark

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Speaker 1: chocolate kind of you know, high end peanut butter. And

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Speaker 1: I was like, I ate one of them. I was like,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be kidding me. This is like that when

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Speaker 1: I was like ate and ate my first recent cup

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Speaker 1: or something. You know, I was like, how the how

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Speaker 1: the recent cups used to taste like real? Exactly exactly?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So how about that that that brings home some chocolate?

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Speaker 3: You pop open a.

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Speaker 4: Bottle of wine. And it turned out to be a

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Speaker 4: nice evening.

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Speaker 1: And guess where well I won't even get into the

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Speaker 1: ins and outs of it, if you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't there, but I heard it went well, guy

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Speaker 1: living downstairs, it was awesome. So what about buying let's

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Speaker 1: talk about buying protection plans. Everybody's going to buy electronics

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Speaker 1: and whatnot.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people unger about that.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of people bought electronics this weekend, that

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Speaker 6: Amazon big deal October days, so.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people bought stuff. The real purchasing time,

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Speaker 3: of course.

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Speaker 6: Is November, around Black Friday. We're gonna be getting iPads, laptops,

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Speaker 6: new xboxes, PlayStations. There's Giant TVs seventy five inch TV

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Speaker 6: and when you buy it, they're gonna say, hey, do

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Speaker 6: you want to spend an extra twenty five bucks in

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Speaker 6: the protection plan? Because that's what they do. You know,

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Speaker 6: they offer that protection plan. The question is do you

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Speaker 6: buy it or do you not buy it? And a

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Speaker 6: good question and we looked into it and it's fascinating.

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Speaker 6: They say on an inexpensive item, no, because you can

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Speaker 6: throw it away, like you know, those those slow cookers

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Speaker 6: and pressure pots for like forty bucks. You know, don't

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Speaker 6: get a protection plan with that. What are you gonna

555
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Speaker 6: do get it repaired? You're not gonna repair a slow

556
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Speaker 6: cookers that you got for twenty five dollars. You're just

557
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Speaker 6: wasting your money buying buying it on that on those

558
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Speaker 6: little kitchen gadgets.

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Speaker 3: Now you throw it away.

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Speaker 6: If it breaks in a year, no big deal. Basically,

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Speaker 6: anything over several hundred dollars kind of a smart move

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Speaker 6: because if it breaks, you want to get it fixed

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Speaker 6: and want to get it taken care of. So you

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Speaker 6: know you're getting a TV, why not. You know you're

565
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 6: getting an Xbox, why not? But here's the thing you

566
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Speaker 6: have to see where you get it fixed. Because if

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Speaker 6: you're getting a laptop for yourself or an Xbox for

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Speaker 6: your kid, the last thing you want to do is

569
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Speaker 6: have to ship that off to be repaired. And it's like, yeah, kid,

570
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Speaker 6: I got this protection plan, but we're taking your Xbox

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Speaker 6: for like a month and shipping it off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah ship it, yeah it.

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Speaker 3: And shipping Yeah. So you better ask them.

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Speaker 6: You need to ask those questions on how is it

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Speaker 6: going to get fixed, because in that case, you may

576
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Speaker 6: just want to skip it. You may want to say,

577
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Speaker 6: you know what, if this thing breaks, I'm.

578
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Speaker 3: Just going to go to the local you know, go.

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Speaker 6: To Best Buy, the geek squad, or go to a

580
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Speaker 6: local laptop repair shop. There's a bunch of those you

581
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Speaker 6: got you break it, I fix it, I break it,

582
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Speaker 6: you fix it whatever it's called. You know that telephone

583
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Speaker 6: pair company, they do a lot of yeah break because

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Speaker 6: no one thinks is that you got that place. We

585
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Speaker 6: even went to a laptop a pair of shop up

586
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Speaker 6: at Clifton and the guy says, by U see, and

587
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Speaker 6: he's been there forever and he said, yeah. You know,

588
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Speaker 6: people say my laptop broke and I'm gonna have a

589
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Speaker 6: protection plan. I gotta ship it off for two weeks.

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Speaker 6: It's like, that's a laptop. You need that sucker tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: So that's why he said, I tell people, don't buy it.

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Speaker 6: You know your laptop breaks, come here, you know, for

593
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Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty five bucks, I'll fix it. You

594
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Speaker 6: have it, You have it back in like five hours.

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Speaker 1: Now, what's the deal with it?

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Speaker 2: By the way, I never buy protection plan other than

597
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Speaker 2: a car, I never get them. But but do you

598
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Speaker 2: have to remember where you kept the receipt and all that,

599
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Speaker 2: because that's why I always worry about I'm I can

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Speaker 2: remember where that's where they get you.

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Speaker 6: Yep, that think about that. Think about you buy a

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Speaker 6: laptop or you buy a soundbar, because my soundbar is

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Speaker 6: not working for my TV. So that that that sucks

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Speaker 6: right now And it's like I can't find the seat

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Speaker 6: for it. I think I bought it Best Buy, maybe

606
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Speaker 6: I got an Amazon.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like five years old. It's not working.

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Speaker 6: And you know, if I had paid for that protection

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Speaker 6: plan for thirty bucks, I'd be so ol because I

610
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Speaker 6: don't know where I bought it or what I paid

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Speaker 6: for it. And I certainly can't find the receipt.

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Speaker 1: Our consumer protection guy is just like us. He just

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Speaker 1: throws a receipt someplace. I remember where that's at.

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00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 6: Your local consumer reporter loses his receipts. Yeah, there's our

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Speaker 6: top story.

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Speaker 3: And I have a great weekend. And as I always say,

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Speaker 3: don't waste.

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Speaker 1: Your money, all right, thanks Johnny, And yeah, and that's

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Speaker 1: true because I do that every time. Man, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: this sounds like you do too. You buy something, you go, okay,

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Speaker 1: I want to save this receipt, so I put it

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Speaker 1: someplace and I usually put and then I'll come back

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Speaker 1: to look for it. I was like, I usually put

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Speaker 1: that stuff right here in this drawer.

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Speaker 2: And I got a car title at home I can't find, okay,

626
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Speaker 2: And that's where we're at, all right, It's somewhere in

627
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Speaker 2: the house. But I don't know where, and that's that's

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Speaker 2: that's gonna be a problem.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I I I thought.

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Speaker 2: Of me buying a protection plan and remembering where I

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Speaker 2: put it, and it happened.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, we're gonna be talking to our good

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Speaker 1: friend Dave had Her and talk about all things paranoia

635
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Speaker 1: as far as and it's it's getting weirder and weirder

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00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: out there, folks. We're gonna be talking to Dave about

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Speaker 1: it after the news right now, news Radio seven hundred

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Speaker 1: w Lwright Bag with that young Rockey and Rock. This

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Speaker 1: guy right here is like a computer virus.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think that everywhere he's on television now, I mean

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Speaker 1: like on every channel, and I see news stations interviewing

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Speaker 1: the guy. He's on with us all the time. He's

644
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Speaker 1: on like every radio station in town. I'm fun to

645
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Speaker 1: wonder or is it really him or it's just an

646
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Speaker 1: AI generated bot of him? Could be good point. You

647
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Speaker 1: are Dave's hatter, right, the real one.

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Speaker 5: You know. Guys in the old days, you'd say is

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Speaker 5: it live or is it limericks? I know you know

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Speaker 5: what I'm talking about it? And now is it live?

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Speaker 5: Is it a bot? Who knows? I'll let you, guys

652
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Speaker 5: decide if it's or not.

653
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Speaker 1: You're always talking about. All you need is whatever twenty

654
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: seconds of somebody talking and you can recreate them. But

655
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Speaker 1: that's why, that's my point. You're all over every media,

656
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: so we've got lots to draw on.

657
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 5: Despite a face for radio, right, Eddie, you know it's amazing.

658
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 5: I don't know how I was really learned to be

659
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Speaker 5: on TV.

660
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Speaker 1: For me, Well, well let's get to the we won't

661
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: even discuss that day anyways. Let's talk about some of

662
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: the stuff you've been You're always sending to stuff. What's

663
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: this thing with the with the meta and and and

664
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Speaker 1: advertising and whatnot? What's going on there?

665
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 5: Well, guys, as a reminder, you know, if you think

666
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 5: about it, what can meta sell you? And the answer

667
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 5: is really not much, right, whether it's what's app, Instagram, Facebook,

668
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 5: or other platforms they have for the most part, you

669
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 5: are their product, not their customer. You're not paying with money,

670
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 5: you're paying with data. And this is yet another example

671
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 5: where so they've rolled out some AI tools on these

672
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 5: platforms in some cases in a way where it's kind

673
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 5: of difficult to op out. And now, of course they said,

674
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 5: if you've used those things. They're going to take the

675
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 5: data achievator in these AI tools, the prompting you've done

676
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 5: and so forth, and they're going to use it to

677
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 5: schlep more stuff to you. I mean, it's not surprising

678
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 5: to me. Again, that's their whole business model for the

679
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 5: most part, is trying to figure out how to capture

680
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 5: as much data from you, keep you on their platforms

681
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 5: as well as possible, and then figure out how to

682
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 5: monetize that. So I'm not saying it's nefarious necessary, it's just.

683
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Speaker 4: The way they work.

684
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Speaker 5: But it's one of the reasons why in general, I

685
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 5: try to avoid meta as much as I can. Again,

686
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 5: the parent company of Facebook, Instagram, what's happened on us?

687
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 5: So it's kind of typical. Did you guys, I don't

688
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 5: know if I sent you along these same lines, if

689
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 5: the Samsung refrigerator story, did you get that?

690
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Speaker 1: I don't believe I got that one in that.

691
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 5: All right, Well here's a hot one for you. So

692
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 5: you know, we've talked about the Internet of things many times,

693
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 5: so called smart devices, ring doorbells, nest thumb stets, et cetera.

694
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 5: So Samsung just put out a big announcement you guys

695
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 5: are going to love this. You go out, you spend

696
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 5: two grand, four grand on a refrigerator, right, so called

697
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 5: smart refrigerator. Now, the first question is what do you

698
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 5: need a smart refrigerator for? Well, conveniently, you know, they

699
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 5: got a big screen on the front. And now Samsung

700
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Speaker 5: has announced that even though you have paid for this

701
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Speaker 5: refrigerator with your heart owned money, it's sitting in your house.

702
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 5: If you cann't gave Babby up to the internet, it's

703
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 5: going to put ads on the refrigerator, kind of like

704
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 5: the dribble that comes out of the gas pump while

705
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 5: you're pumping your gas?

706
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Speaker 4: Is that not awesome?

707
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 6: For a while?

708
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Speaker 1: Why would anybody want that?

709
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Speaker 5: You got me, brother. But what's even better is think

710
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 5: about how awesome it would be if you're a refrigerator

711
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 5: under the guise of saving you by figuring out what

712
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 5: you're buying and eating and so forth, scanning the bar

713
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 5: codes off your products can drop the dime to your

714
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 5: insurance company on you that you know you ate like

715
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 5: six pounds of bacon, p jars and mayo and drank

716
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 5: a taste of beer each day last week. How oftome

717
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 5: is that going to be? When your insurance company gets there,

718
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 5: you know, and your premium suddenly girk career for you

719
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 5: can't get insurance, and then all the while you can

720
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 5: you can get you some good ads served up to

721
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 5: the refrigerator that you thought you owned in your own house.

722
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Speaker 5: That's not a brave New World away.

723
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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. I mean, yeah, first of all, I can

724
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: see it. It's like, yeah, that reports. Man, these guys

725
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: haven't bought a vegetable in years. But I guess I

726
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: could almost see that. I could see a lot of people,

727
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: honestly did making the trade off of Okay, I'll take

728
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: a thing given ads, but I want to I want

729
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: some money off the refrigerator, or I want them to

730
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: you know, something like that. But this just gives you

731
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Speaker 2: ads and and nothing back.

732
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Speaker 5: Right well, as far as I know this, this announcement just

733
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 5: came out, and will see how this goes, because you know, guys,

734
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Speaker 5: I just said this. I was doing a presentation earlier

735
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 5: today to a pretty good sized group of people. I'm like,

736
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Speaker 5: are there some investors in the audience, and can we

737
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 5: start a company making dumb machines instead of you know,

738
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 5: your smart coffee maker, your smart TV cetter, can we

739
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 5: just get back to like, you know, a company that

740
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 5: makes a dumb refrigerator and a dumb dryer and a

741
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 5: dumb washing machine. You know, because I don't want any

742
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 5: of this stuff, not the least of which because of

743
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 5: the advertising, but because this stuff is a giant security

744
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 5: and privacy dumpster buyer. You know, if you buy a

745
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 5: smart device today, it's got software in it, even if

746
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 5: you know how to set it up right, even if

747
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 5: it gets automatic software updates. In most cases, most of

748
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 5: these companies won't make a product go into life when

749
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 5: they make a new product in a couple of years.

750
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 5: So now you have a security vulnerability. You know, we

751
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 5: talk all the time that you got update your Windows,

752
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 5: you got update travel phones. You think that's smart call.

753
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 5: You think your mister coffee maker from three years ago

754
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 5: is still getting updates from the mister coffee that's not

755
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 5: so you know that This is why I hate the

756
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 5: Internet of things. So these so called smart devices, I'm

757
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 5: not inherently against them, but you know, the whole marketing

758
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 5: of it, the whole consumer protection aspect of it, as

759
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 5: long because they care about speed the market, easy use

760
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 5: of market share at your expense, right, they don't care

761
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 5: about your privacy or security, and in fact, whatever possible,

762
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 5: they are sucking up as much data about you and

763
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 5: now are going to deluge you with add on devices

764
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 5: in your house that you bought.

765
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Speaker 2: It's crazy, it's crazy, and you may not know the

766
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: answer to this, Dave. But just as you were describing that,

767
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: I was thinking to myself, I mean, what's something that

768
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: most people have a car?

769
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Speaker 1: Right?

770
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: In every car now? Is a giant computer? Do they

771
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: make cars or can you? Can I go to Ford

772
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: and say, hey, I want to buy your truck, but

773
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: I don't want any of the computers in it. Or

774
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: is there a brand that makes a computerless car or

775
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 2: there else? You're just stuff buy a dumb car. Yeah,

776
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: unless you want to buy you buy like a pre

777
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: eighty one car. That's the only way you get something

778
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: doesn't have a computer in it.

779
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 5: I'm really glad you asked that question, Rockie, because before

780
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 5: we run out of time, I encourage people. Mozilla, the

781
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 5: people to make the Firefox browser, which is a privacy

782
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 5: friendly web browser, and they do some other stuff. Has

783
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 5: a website called Privacy Not Included, just like it sounds,

784
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 5: Privacy not Included, and they do all kinds of research

785
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 5: on these so called smart devices, and they did a

786
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 5: special expose on modern cars. Every modern car from every

787
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 5: major manufacturer is basically an Orwellian spy machine. They're sucking

788
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 5: up all kinds of crazy data about you. They dig

789
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 5: deep into it. And in fact, in their special report,

790
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 5: and I'm paraphrasing here, they said something to the effective

791
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 5: modern cars are the single worst privacy related thing they've

792
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 5: ever seen. When you go out and rent a car

793
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 5: and you plug your phone into the entertainment center and

794
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 5: you let it sync all your texts, all your contacts,

795
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 5: everything just went in that entertainment center. You think they

796
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 5: clean that out when you bring the car back. And

797
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 5: studies have been network people have gone to a junk

798
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 5: yard and bought these bought these OREC cars, and there's

799
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 5: like sensitive information from people's phones in there. So no,

800
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 5: as far as I know, there is no such thing

801
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 5: as a dumb car at this point, unless you buy

802
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 5: like a I always wanted to Simon and Simon seventy

803
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 5: eight power wagon with the big railroad tie on the front.

804
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 5: You know, that's what I need to get something like that.

805
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really think you're stuck with I believe it's

806
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: like nineteen seventy nine. I believe I've read is it

807
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: that that's like guarantee you if it's a seventy nine

808
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: or or older, there's no computer. And now maybe that

809
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 2: date is wrong, but yeah, you're stuck buying an older car.

810
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 5: Carburetors and points man, you know, because the other problem

811
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Speaker 5: with all this, besides the fact that the surveillance is

812
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 5: now just like that refrigerator, you're getting into a space

813
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 5: where more and more modern manufacturers are essentially giving you

814
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 5: a freemium model. You think you've bought a car and

815
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 5: you've paid for it and it's your car. But oh wait,

816
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 5: that feature you want, like you'd like to be able

817
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 5: to connect your phone to the radio so that you

818
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 5: can play a podcast or whatever as you want to do.

819
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 5: Oh no, that that costs extra. You have to sign

820
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 5: up from subscription altho its heated seats. Now you're your

821
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 5: ear is gonna have to be cold this winter unless

822
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 5: you want to heat up their bank account with a subscription.

823
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 5: I mean it, It is completely insane. And until consumers

824
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 5: say enough is enough of this stuff and stop buying

825
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 5: this garbage and or just say you know what, I

826
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 5: guess I won't get heated seats because I'm not going

827
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 5: to pay your subscription fee. I don't know how this stops,

828
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 5: because you know, guys, I get some of these things

829
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 5: have a very whiz bang kind of you know, coolness

830
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 5: to them. Some of these things bring a lot of

831
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 5: convenience and make your life better in a lot of ways.

832
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 5: But at the same time, we are increasingly adding to

833
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 5: our risks through the security capability as a lack of

834
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 5: security rather these things, and then the privacy and now

835
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 5: the subscription angle. Well, yeah, here's a bunch of features,

836
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 5: but you only get half of them. If you want

837
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 5: the rest, you're gonna have to pay us everyone. I mean,

838
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 5: I'm never gonna agree to that myself. And if I

839
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 5: got to go back and get a car from the

840
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 5: sixties or something, I will just out of principle because

841
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 5: I I'm just that hard headed.

842
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: Well, i mean, where where does it end?

843
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 3: Is going to be?

844
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: Okay, in about April, I'm gonna start. I'm gonna want

845
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: to start to have air conditioning again, So I'll pay

846
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: for my AC from April to you know, October, and

847
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: then October to you know March. Okay, I'll take the

848
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: heat it's.

849
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Speaker 5: Well, Google, Peddie, what's your bid is? Well, let's see

850
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 5: if you want to have your temperature below seventy three,

851
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 5: that's going to cost extra, you know, or something like that.

852
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, exactly right, that's.

853
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 5: An extra feed for you. Yeah, and that's sick.

854
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 6: You know.

855
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Speaker 5: I always hate to be the guy that sounds like

856
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 5: a lot. I don't here because again, my whole career

857
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 5: has been based around this. I spent most of my

858
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 5: career as a software engineer making this stuff, which now

859
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 5: I regret to some extent. To be honest, I'm not

860
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 5: necessarily against this stuff. I'm against the fact that as

861
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 5: this moves forward and the for the consumer seem to

862
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 5: always be wrong, we are just getting into a realm

863
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 5: of increasingly crazy stuff. And I'm not going to pay

864
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 5: a subscription fee for all of this stuff. I mean,

865
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 5: I understand why these companies wanted because now instead of

866
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Speaker 5: a one time sale and you know, maybe you don't

867
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 5: replace this piece of equipment for fifteen years, you get

868
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 5: a sale and now you have to pay a monthly fee.

869
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 5: So I understand their perspective. I just refuse to participate

870
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 5: in that myself. And I'm hoping more consumers will say

871
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 5: enough is enough of this garbage again. We need to

872
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 5: we need to pool our money, guys, get some investors

873
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 5: and make a dumb product company.

874
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm with you, you are right there. It is maddening.

875
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: There's if there you know, things you want now that

876
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: that is the modern just snag is it's a subscription

877
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: based thing. And you know, like like ebook, I like,

878
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: you know, it's hard to you know, for me to

879
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: sit down and read a book. But if I can

880
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 2: get an audiobook and listen to it, cool, And there's

881
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: these services out there that have that, but none of them,

882
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: like I just I would rather pay more for a

883
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: singular book than have to pay the subscription. And you know,

884
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: you can get a book you want kind of thing,

885
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: but your stock it's like all these things that you

886
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: want you got to pay.

887
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: The subscription sucks.

888
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 5: It does.

889
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 4: I agree wholeheartedly.

890
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: I would rather pay more.

891
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 5: And just get what I want. What I want it

892
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 5: now I get. You know, if you're a voracious reader.

893
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 5: I love audiobooks myself, but I eventually camp with my

894
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 5: Audible subscription for the very reason you get described and

895
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 5: buying a way folks, if you like audiobooks. Most local

896
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 5: libraries in this region have an app like Liby. It's

897
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 5: a free app and you can get free audio if

898
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 5: you've got to belong to your library right in a

899
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 5: library card. But you can get free audiobooks in many

900
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 5: cases that are their library collection usually isn't merely as

901
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 5: extensive as audible to get a lot of this stuff

902
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 5: for free if you if you look, I encourage people

903
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 5: to check that out to call you again. Libby is

904
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 5: the one I used to the Kenton County Library Libby,

905
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 5: but most libraries in this area have have something like that,

906
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 5: and all you need is a library card and then

907
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 5: you can go in and then it basically, you know,

908
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 5: just like you go out of the library, check out

909
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 5: a book, listen to it on your phone, check it

910
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 5: back in and get another book. It's actually pretty cool.

911
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: Interesting, cool. All right with with that, Dave, we will

912
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: let you go, Buddy, thanks so much. As always leave

913
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: us scared scared to death, but it's good enough.

914
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 5: Hey, have a good weekend. Thanks guys, Thanks buddy.

915
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: Our good friend Dave Hatter and Dude, I got to

916
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: tell you the whole time we were talking to him,

917
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: all I was thinking about was my reprigerator talking to

918
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: me like a gas pump at the you know, the whatever,

919
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: the Kroger gas station. Yeah. Remember the first time that

920
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: ever happened to you. I never even paid attention to

921
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: that little TV screen on there. Yeah, the hell is that?

922
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: Who's giving me the weather? Right now? God, that's what happened.

923
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: I was sitting there pumping my you know, I put

924
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: the nozzle in there and I got it on, you know,

925
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: just pumping itself, just looking around, and all of a sudden,

926
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: I hear somebody talking to me, and I'm like, I

927
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: keep looking around, like, who's that? Sounds awfully friendly? And

928
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: I look at the pump and there's a little bitty

929
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: guy there talking to me. Yeah. That's going to be

930
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: your fridge, pretty friends.

931
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's going to tell you, hey, by

932
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: the way, mister fingers, you are out of milk.

933
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: Right yeah, and well, like you said, and then it's

934
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: going to call the authorities on you. Until this guy's

935
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: been you can't even believe how much like well, like

936
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: Dave said, you can't believe how much bacon and beard

937
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: this guy said this week. Yeah, you got to look

938
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: into this. Uh, with that we check it with traffic

939
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: and weather. What is going on?

940
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 5: Right?

941
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: And Ron, we've talked about this AI thing and people

942
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: were going to basically falling in love with an AI

943
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: generated man or woman.

944
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, and well, first of all online and on

945
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: the internet, the pictures of these women look just indiscernible

946
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: from real and fake. And then we just had that

947
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: actor actress, the fake actress who was her named Telly

948
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: or something that was you know, people were falling in

949
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: love with. It's a really weird concept. And yeah, I

950
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: feel like we're getting closer and closer to the acceptance,

951
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: believe it or not, of people having a relationship with

952
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 2: a non human.

953
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: It seems out of a sci fi movie. But it

954
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: seems like we're edging closer to that. Well there just

955
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: saw this article the other day. The headline the survey

956
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: one in five Americans believe real romance as possible with

957
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: AI chatbots. Now, if you believe that, I do believe

958
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: there's something wrong with you. But we let's get an

959
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: expert involved. We have doctor Jonathan Thorpie's a relationship expert

960
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: and the CEO of Quantum Connections, doctor Welkomer to the program.

961
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 4: Petty ROCKI thanks for the invitation.

962
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: So doc are we being you know, sorry, regressive thinking

963
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: that you can't fall in love with a thing that

964
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: doesn't exist? I mean this is crazy to me.

965
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't think so. I think a lot

966
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 4: of people feel like you do, Eddie. And if you

967
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 4: think about it, AI is amazing and half of the

968
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 4: adults in this country admit that they use AI on

969
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 4: a daily basis, probably more so maybe secretly check it out.

970
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 4: And if you look at what's going on in society

971
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 4: right now, how it makes sense? Right, we have more

972
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 4: social fragmentation than we've ever had. And like the outgoing

973
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 4: Surgeon General said, he said sixty five years ago, was

974
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 4: smoking forty five years ago, as nutrition today, it's isolation,

975
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 4: loneliness and disengagement. So people are looking for alternatives to

976
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 4: find connection and relationship and in this case love.

977
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: So why are people more isolated? Would you say?

978
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 2: I mean, I know, you know, because you can point

979
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 2: of politics and how you know they you see on

980
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: on social media apps and things like that. But just

981
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: in your expert opinion, why are people isolating? No one's

982
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: stopping them from leaving their house, No one's stopping a

983
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: young man from asking a girl on a date.

984
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 3: What is it.

985
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 4: I think it's mostly a matter of convenience. I think

986
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 4: people are finding that they can they can find a

987
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 4: group of people that think or act or vote like

988
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 4: they do very easily, and it doesn't really require really

989
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 4: making yourself informed. And this polarization. And I hate to

990
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 4: blame social media for everything, but social media really is

991
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 4: starting to disconnect.

992
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 5: Us better than it is connect us.

993
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: I agree you absolutely now that I think I mean convenience.

994
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: I mean there's so many decisions we make.

995
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: I mean, before you came on, Doc, we had our

996
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: cyber guy on and he's always talking about the dangers

997
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: of you know, of your information getting shared out there

998
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: and sharing passwords and all that stuff. And you know,

999
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: the apps and how many people out there, you know,

1000
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: put in their address and you know, and map quest

1001
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: it right and boom it comes up on your Well,

1002
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: now that thing knows your pathway. But we do it,

1003
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 2: and we almost to ourselves say, ah, hell with it.

1004
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: I know someone's probably getting my information, but hell with it.

1005
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: It's so convenient that it can just tell me where

1006
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: I want to go, right, So you're right. I think

1007
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: it's just no matter which way you look at it,

1008
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 2: it's the easiest. It's the path of least resistance that

1009
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: we're choosing instead of something that's more authentic.

1010
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 4: You got it. And if you think about what it's

1011
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 4: giving us back AI, in this case, it's giving us

1012
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 4: back a perfect reflection of what we already think and

1013
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 4: feel and know. I mean, it is a perfect mirror.

1014
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 4: It listens, it expands the thinking, and it reflects us.

1015
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 4: And really all it's doing is it's affirming what we

1016
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 4: already believe. And not enough cases does it really stretch

1017
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 4: our thinking or reform our thinking. It really just basically

1018
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 4: repeats it.

1019
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: We're talking to doctor Jonathan Thorpe and doc one of

1020
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: the other parts of this article, there was a study

1021
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: eighty percent of gen zers would marry an AI. Now, personally,

1022
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: I don't have a moral problem with it. I just

1023
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: think that you can do whatever you want as far

1024
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,959
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. But don't you think that's mentally you're

1025
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: not well if you think you're married to something that

1026
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: doesn't exist.

1027
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 4: This is a really important distinction, and I don't want

1028
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 4: to discredit AI from adding value.

1029
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 5: Right.

1030
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 4: It's a phenomenal tool, and I'm a relational strategist. I

1031
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 4: help individuals couples, large and small organizations really learn behaviors

1032
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 4: and build stronger relationships. I think if you're talking about

1033
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 4: an individual in a personal diagnosis, then I would really

1034
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 4: roll in the efforts of a clinical professional and say

1035
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 4: there are folks that can talk through those situations if

1036
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 4: you're really going that far with it. But in this

1037
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 4: case it is problematic because human beings we rely on

1038
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 4: an emotional circuit that's really like a give and take loop.

1039
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 4: And if you think about it, at the center of

1040
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 4: the circuit, there's this feeling of being seen and heard

1041
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 4: that we all need. We all have it. Now in

1042
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 4: this circuit, we both give this feeling to other people

1043
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 4: and we take it from other people. Now, when this

1044
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 4: circuits between two people, it operates in both directions. I

1045
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,959
Speaker 4: take feelings of being seen and heard from someone else,

1046
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 4: and I can actually give them back, and that satisfies

1047
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 4: both my need for rewards and my need for care.

1048
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 4: It's both pleasure and purpose. But when it happens between

1049
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 4: a human being and a computer or a phone, only

1050
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 4: one side of the circuit works. People take this feeling

1051
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 4: of seen and heard from computers and AI bots, but

1052
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 4: they can't ever give it back and When that happens,

1053
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 4: it's like inhaling and not exhaling, we choke and we

1054
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 4: lose the ability to empathize, and we lose the ability

1055
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 4: to tolerate other viewpoints, and all those things fade and

1056
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 4: we suffer. I think young people, if they go this route,

1057
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 4: will discover in time that it is incredibly hollow existence.

1058
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 4: And I don't think it lasts.

1059
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: I think you're right as much as people you know

1060
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: will say that got to hate when my wife disagrees

1061
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 2: with me on this. The alternative is as a computer

1062
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: or a bot that agrees with everything you say. And

1063
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: it sounds wonderful, but it's not at all, because yeah,

1064
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: you're not. There's no growth there, right, you got it.

1065
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 4: Growth is a great word for it, and we need it.

1066
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 4: We need it to find purpose that we're actually evolving

1067
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 4: over time and actually learning things. If we don't, we stagnate,

1068
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 4: and I think that's really probably the beginning of the

1069
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 4: end of a meaningful life.

1070
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 7: Doc.

1071
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: I keep going back to your word convenience, because in

1072
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: my head, I'm thinking, look, since the beginning of time,

1073
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 2: you know, there's been you know, teenage boys that are

1074
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 2: shy and nervous, and they don't want to ask a

1075
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 2: girl because they're scared of rejection. But eventually you get

1076
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: to the point where you're like, you know, hell, I'm

1077
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: just gonna do it because there are also I'm going

1078
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: to be a lonely sob here. But now it's like

1079
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: you're creeping into the world where you don't really have

1080
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Speaker 2: to face dejection or rejection or any of that. If

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Speaker 2: I can get it's not as good as like a

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Speaker 2: you know, in this case, a real woman, but if

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00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: this thing interacts with me and you know, and I

1084
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Speaker 2: don't get it there the rejection side of it, it's

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00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: not as great, but it's it's decent enough. Is that

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Speaker 2: kind of the decision that you know in the dating

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Speaker 2: world that young men are making.

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Speaker 4: It is, And I like the position this way. There's

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Speaker 4: a lot of value in it.

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Speaker 5: If you use a tool like this as.

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Speaker 4: A rehearsal platform, if you want to practice dialogue, if

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Speaker 4: you want to practice some strategies and some things to say,

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00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 4: it's functional. But as soon as it moves from rehearsal

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00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 4: to replacement, that's when these young kids are going to

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00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 4: lose all of these engagement skills, the ability to actually

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Speaker 4: take a risk and be emotionally vulnerable, which we're seeing

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Speaker 4: a lot of young people these days not have that

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Speaker 4: capacity to do.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Jonathan Thorpe is our guest, and you know, Doctor,

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Speaker 1: one of the things that you hit the nail on

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Speaker 1: the head one of the most common things. And Rocky

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Speaker 1: and I've had guests so I'm talking about it before,

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Speaker 1: is that this whole fear of rejection thing has people

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Speaker 1: like I mean, and you guys both have said use

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00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: the word convenience. Well, I don't want to get my

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00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: feelings hurt, so it's just easier to talk to this

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00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: thing that's really you know, I'm talking to a ten.

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00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: She's sitting there telling me how cool I am and

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00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: how hot I am. And she's a beautiful woman telling

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Speaker 1: me how cool I am. It doesn't matter this she

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00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. But at least I didn't have to ask

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00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: the head cheerleader if she wanted to go to problem

1113
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: with me. You know what I'm saying, it's true.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope we can cultivate this desire and need

1115
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 4: for risk taking. I think without it we'll be come synthetic, right,

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00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 4: and we don't we miss out on what life has

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Speaker 4: to offer. We we as humans we love because time

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00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 4: runs out and AI has no stakes in the game.

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00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 4: It's endlessly available, so love thumb AI is therefore waitless

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Speaker 4: and worthless. If you were to ask me, so, what is.

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Speaker 2: Your suggestion how do you get people? And I'll say

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00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: younger people, but it's it's all people you can I'm

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00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 2: sure there's elderly people that would also don't like rejection.

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Speaker 1: But so what do you coach people to do?

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Speaker 2: What what's your advice on how to Hey, don't take

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00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: the convenient route here, go through the one that's a

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00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: little harder, but it's going to be more rewarding.

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Speaker 1: How do you express that?

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00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 3: Well?

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00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 4: I like to offer is maybe not a wholesale rejection

1131
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 4: of AI, but maybe a blended strategy. Right, So, if

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00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 4: I say, continue to use AI if you think it's helpful,

1133
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 4: use it as a rehearsal platform, not a replacement for

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00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 4: human interaction. And when you get on AI, don't just

1135
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 4: look for validation of what you already think. Stretch AI

1136
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 4: and say, hey, not do you agree with me? But

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00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 4: what might I be missing in this exchange? Or can

1138
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Speaker 4: you help me see the other side of what someone

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00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 4: else might offer?

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Speaker 3: In practice?

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Speaker 4: Maybe embedding some emotion in AI when you write in say,

1142
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 4: how could I word this with more compassion? Or what

1143
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 4: might someone feel if they were to hear me say

1144
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 4: this and really invite AI to become more human than

1145
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 4: just a flat answer or a confirmation of what you

1146
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 4: think you already know. It's here to stay. I think

1147
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 4: it'd be wrong of us to say I wish you

1148
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 4: wouldn't use AI, because you know, as soon as we

1149
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 4: write a description of all the things AI can't do today,

1150
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 4: it's only a matter of time before someone smart enough

1151
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 4: writes that into AI, and in two three four years now,

1152
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, AI can do that too. We

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00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 4: have to expect going to evolve and.

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Speaker 1: Improve rise to talk you out of breaking up with it,

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00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, Uh, with the with that, doctor Jonathan Thorpe,

1156
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: we will let you go a great conversation. Uh, people

1157
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: want to find out more about you? Where can they go?

1158
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 4: Please check us out on Quantum Connections dot com and

1159
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 4: learn more.

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Speaker 1: Doctor's great.

1161
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 4: Thank you, Hendy Rocket, Thanks but.

1162
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: Thanks, yeah, great conversation.

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00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: And I mean people will always take the path of

1164
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 2: least resistance, right like it's it's it's the athlete that

1165
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: you will choose to go the easy way and not

1166
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 2: wake up early and lift the weights and do all that.

1167
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 2: If I can get there an easier way, I'm going

1168
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: to do it. And and now, odd to say, in

1169
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 2: the relationship world, there's that possibility exists.

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00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 1: It really well, well, it's like I've told that story

1171
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: on the show before. I went to my five year

1172
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: class reunion and the girl that I always had the

1173
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 1: big crush on, who was super popular and super cute

1174
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, and we were talking and it

1175
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: was one of those both of us had you know,

1176
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: a couple of cocktails, and I go, oh, man, I

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Speaker 1: always wanted to ask you, well, but you know I

1178
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: was me and you were you, and you know I

1179
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: wish you would have because I always I always liked you.

1180
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there going stupid, start getting myself upside

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00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: the head, right, and.

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00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: You're telling Dad go ahead and just pull the pull

1183
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: the car around, or you can go head back to

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00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: the hotel, right right, just yeah, Well take your shot.

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00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: I tell you, well, see that wasn't there. That was

1186
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: my thing, man, you had it. And actually, anyway, let's

1187
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: go to traffic and weather before I really get myself

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00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: in trouble here with Rock.

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Speaker 4: And Rock.

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Speaker 1: Here we are three weeks from the day Halloween.

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00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: Dad, you got your costume, you got your slutty nurse

1192
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: outfit ready to go ed.

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00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: That was the last Shuk working on the same new one.

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00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: What you you know in typical you know, life form.

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00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: She she, I think they have a work I think

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00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: it's a work thing that they're doing. And last year,

1197
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: she you know, did like she put in like she

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00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: bought some fake vampire you know those vampire teeth you cane, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like you know at the CBS, of course, cheap plastic ones. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like seventy five cents and like, okay, I'm a vampire man.

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Speaker 1: And people gave her so much crap about it. She

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Speaker 1: was like, this year, I'm going to dress up. So

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Speaker 1: she uh, she's going to dress as a hippie, and

1204
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: she went out, of course, you don't make up your

1205
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: own costume, that's too right now. She bought it on Amazon.

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00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: Oh god, and it's some kind of well, like I said,

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Speaker 1: it's bought on Amazon, and it costs about twelve dollars,

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00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: and it's crummy sunglasses and a cheap wig and some

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Speaker 1: kind of mini skirt outfit or whatnot.

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Speaker 2: Naturally, you're I think a good outfit for who would

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Speaker 2: be at Elvira. I think Dad would make a good Elvira.

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Speaker 2: Uh No, I mean she's got the you know, give

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Speaker 2: me your care.

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Speaker 1: A couple of years ago. Okay, see, I'm I'm going

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Speaker 1: to go as megabraina brain. I name myself Megabrain, and

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to come up with an outfit that fits

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Speaker 1: that name. Loves that one. Oh well, I've been calling

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Speaker 1: myself that for the last two days and she's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: mega brain. I am Mega brain. Uh coming up best?

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Halloween, we're going to talk about the ghost tours.

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Speaker 1: We always love talking to this lady. Yeah, it's always

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Speaker 1: great to talk about.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Cincinnati has like a pre pretty cool history

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Speaker 2: of ghosts and goblins and things that happened back in

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Speaker 2: its earlier times that are some pretty cool and frightful experiences.

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Speaker 1: Our good friend Miranda from American Legacy Tours is going

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Speaker 1: to join us see what you can find out about

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Speaker 1: the ghosts of Cincinnati. But that's after the news right

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Speaker 1: now News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: See we tell you about how things Hall of Weed

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Speaker 1: Rocket It was like a like a rock DJ slash.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, h slash Rocky horror picture show slash,

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Speaker 1: you know, not a good version of that? Yes, yes,

1235
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: but but rock. You know, this time of year you

1236
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Speaker 1: got to get into the conversation about ghosts and goblins.

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01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: And let's not talk about you when you're when you

1238
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: were doing mushrooms and thought you saw a ghost motorcycle

1239
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: fly over your head Oxford light, it's real, real, damn

1240
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: it telling you. Let's save that for another day. Okay,

1241
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: let's talk to a person who has seen real ghost rock.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm enjoining us on the show right now. Miranda McGee,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Ghost Tours. Miranda, Welcome to the program. How are you?

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Speaker 8: It's so coozy, guy, I was just doing a bunch

1245
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 8: of mushrooms, but I'm ready now.

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Speaker 1: Does that help me? Does that help the ghost experience.

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Speaker 5: In your.

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Speaker 8: It makes a very visceral it's a very visceral experience

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01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 8: when you're also online ls and that is not as

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Speaker 8: part of our tours. We do not offer llosy along

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Speaker 8: with American like toys.

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Speaker 3: That's not what we do.

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Speaker 8: Just so you know, I'm going to get in trouble

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Speaker 8: with you guys.

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Speaker 1: See you can tell she's doing mushrooms. You hear Miranda's

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Speaker 1: accent there, She's actually from Price Hill.

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Speaker 8: This is my mushroom accent. It happens every time I

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Speaker 8: do mushrooms.

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Speaker 4: It's so weird.

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Speaker 8: And then if you guys call called me an hour earlier,

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Speaker 8: I would have been like, well, hey guys, what's up,

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Speaker 8: what's happening? But now I'm on mushrooms.

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Speaker 2: Good there.

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Speaker 1: That was great American Legacy tours. And now you guys

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Speaker 1: do these ghost tours every year, Miranda, and I've known

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Speaker 1: Miranda for a minute, and every year you're always talking

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Speaker 1: about how cool these things are. And every year you're

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Speaker 1: always talking about how you get the scared out of you.

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Speaker 8: Uh yeah, and then I have to take mushrooms. I

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01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 8: know I'm done. I'm done with the mushrooms. That is,

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Speaker 8: we're telling with that job. Yes, we do these toys

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Speaker 8: every year. This year we have us six offerings ghost experiences,

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Speaker 8: and I think what makes them really unique is that

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Speaker 8: the historical wanted walking tours. So they're not ghost they're

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01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 8: not be your toys. Nobody's jumping out at you. But

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Speaker 8: if you love ghosts, then we give you all this equipment.

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Speaker 8: So you have em f readers and a spirit bar

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01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 8: and difining rods. If you don't like ghosts, then you

1279
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 8: get all the crazy history of like the serial killers

1280
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Speaker 8: in the area, grave robbing, all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 8: So either way, I think this sort of something for everybody.

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Speaker 8: And because we're local, we get to go into a

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Speaker 8: lot of places that other tour companies who are out

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Speaker 8: of towners do not get to go into, which is

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Speaker 8: really cool.

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Speaker 2: All Right, So Miranda, explain, give us a story of

1287
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 2: a prolific what serial killer and Cincinnati, and then there's

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Speaker 2: a tour of it.

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Speaker 1: Now, kind of give us the history and take us

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01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: through a little bit of the story.

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Speaker 3: Perfect.

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Speaker 8: I love that you guess life it's like picture serial killer.

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Speaker 8: I'm like, really, they're actually really hard a lot. Ohio

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Speaker 8: is the number one state in the nation for having

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Speaker 8: serial killers born here or have passed through here, which

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Speaker 8: is I think is really interesting. But I think the

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Speaker 8: one that really fascinates me is the Cincinnati Strangler, which

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Speaker 8: we deal with a lot on our Clifton It's Haunted

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Speaker 8: tour and one of the saddest deaths of the Cincinnati Strangler.

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Speaker 8: He was around in the sixties and he murdered seven women,

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Speaker 8: and one of them he murdered late at night in Clifton.

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Speaker 8: And the only reason she was up late at night

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Speaker 8: is she got up and she went to Good sam

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Speaker 8: to pick up her daughter, who was the nurse there,

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Speaker 8: and she wanted to make sure she got home safely

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Speaker 8: because she was worried about the Cincinnati strangler being out

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Speaker 8: and about. So she delivers her daughter home safely, goes

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Speaker 8: back to her house where a strangler was rating waiting

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Speaker 8: out the back of her garage, dragged her out behind

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Speaker 8: the garage and strangled her with her own stocking. Wow,

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Speaker 8: I know you guys play actually they yeah, it was

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Speaker 8: that was that was a bad day. And the person

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Speaker 8: accused of being the Cincinnati strangler I do not think

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Speaker 8: was the Cincinnati strangler. So technically he could actually still

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Speaker 8: be alive, Wow, and living in the area and just

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Speaker 8: stopped killing people.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, Marianda, when a're we talking here what

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Speaker 1: time frame?

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Speaker 8: But this was this is in the sixties, so he

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Speaker 8: could he was a young man back then and he

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Speaker 8: had to be. So the man accused of doing it

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Speaker 8: was Postil Laski Jr. Who was a young black man

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Speaker 8: who did murder someone, admittedly, but he murdered her. He

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Speaker 8: attempted to murder her in the middle of the day

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Speaker 8: by stabbing her and running over her with the cabs.

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Speaker 8: Barbara Bowman, and then he was accused of all the

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Speaker 8: strangler deaths, which were all done exactly the same way.

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Speaker 8: These women were assaulted and strangled with articles of their

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Speaker 8: own clothing, and that murder was so different from the others.

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Speaker 8: The detective on the case even said, he said, this

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Speaker 8: is so not like the other murders. I don't know

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Speaker 8: why you're pinning it on this guy. And this guy

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01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 8: protested his innocence his whole life postill LASTI jr. The

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01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 8: only reason they pinted on him was because the murders

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Speaker 8: stopped after he got arrested. Oh wow, so I got

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Speaker 8: really I got really deep.

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Speaker 2: Right, So what is the ghost aspect of this? Is

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01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 2: this the assume the victims that are around and stuff

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so the Clifton tour is interesting. We actually go

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01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 8: and we tell you all these stories. There are some

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Speaker 8: places in Burnout Woods because there was another woman murdered

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Speaker 8: in Burnout Woods and there is a place with no

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Speaker 8: electricity whatsoever. And when we go there, which is where

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01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 8: this woman was strangled. All the ghost monitors light up

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01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 8: to red and everything starts beeping and going off, even

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01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 8: though there's no electricity. There's no reason they should be

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01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 8: going off whatsoever. And it's all in this same place

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01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 8: where this woman was murded. So that is sort of

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01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 8: the ghost aspect there. We also get to go into

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01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 8: I'm not even a lot of allowed to tell you

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01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 8: where we go because it's the secret. But we were

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01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 8: in there at midnight the other night because that was

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01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 8: the only time we had to like check it out,

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01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 8: and we turned off our flashlights and we were standing

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01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 8: there and the place is lit by a lamp from

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01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 8: the street, and all of a sudden, all our ghost

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01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 8: monitors went off, and a shadow passed through the room,

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01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 8: blacking out the light from the street lamp for a second,

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01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 8: and then just like walked right through. And that's when

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01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 8: I was like, we should leave. And that's like people

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01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 8: sign waivers us.

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Speaker 1: No my son. We you know Miranda through our through

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01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: our son, through the acting community. And Miranda my son

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01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: was talking about talking to you the other day. Jack

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01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: was saying that he wanted to go on a ghost

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01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: tour with you, and you said you don't want to

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01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: go with me because I get too scared.

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Speaker 8: Y'all, Eddie Rock you guys, You guys do not want

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Speaker 8: to come on with me on a ghost tour.

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Speaker 5: I am.

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Speaker 8: I'm legit scared during the ghost tour and if anything happens,

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01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 8: there's a very good chance that I would just leave.

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Speaker 8: I would. That's why my bosses have been like, well, Miranda,

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01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 8: why don't you do all the media. You can go

1376
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 8: on the news, you can talk to like everybody on radio,

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01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 8: and we won't make you do a ghost tour anymore.

1378
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 8: Although you know what I do miss is I do

1379
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 8: tend to lose ten pounds this time of year out

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01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 8: of fear, and so I'm going to miss that little

1381
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 8: weight loss coming to.

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Speaker 1: You from Miranda McGhee.

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01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 2: It's it's not the Keto diet, not the yeah diet,

1384
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: Halloween diet.

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Speaker 8: That's what I say, you guys. I'm like, it's not

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01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 8: our zombic it's the ah.

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Speaker 4: It'll do it interesting.

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01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 2: So so Marina, if you could, could you share and

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01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 2: maybe it was that one, but your most visceral ghost

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01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 2: or spirit experience.

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01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 8: I can absolutely do that for you guys. And I

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01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 8: get scared when I say it, but it's sorry to

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01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 8: stay right now. If you called me at night then

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01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 8: I would be like, oh God, tell this story right now.

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01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 8: So have you guys ever been to the Newport Syndicate.

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Speaker 3: Over in Newport?

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01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: You know it's it's I know where it's at. Yeah,

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01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: I've been by there. Yeah.

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01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 8: So we we used to start our Gangster tour from

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01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 8: there and to syndicate, and we still talk about the

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01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 8: Syndicate on our Newport tour. We also also get to

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01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 8: go into Mansion Hill taven this year and do a

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01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,600
Speaker 8: mini investigation, which is such a cool place if you

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01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 8: haven't been, it's like the Blues capital of like this

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01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 8: little area. It's like, it's amazing, Brian, it's done great work.

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01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 8: Anyway you bought syndicates. It used to be owned by

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01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 8: a gangster called Peach Schmidt and he skinned somebody alive

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01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 8: in the kitchens. The kitchens that they still used today.

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01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 8: Apparently they do lovely events like weddings and things like that.

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01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 8: And that guy has been seen. He's a tall, thin

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01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 8: man in a dark suit with a thin mustache. He's

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01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 8: been seen by multiple waitresses people working there. They keep

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01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 8: seeing him around because obviously when you die, that horrifically.

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01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 8: It probably sort of traps your spirit. I'd heard about him,

1415
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 8: and one time at the start of our gangster tour,

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01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 8: I just jumped into the syndicates to use their restroom,

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01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 8: and the janitor let me in and he's like, Hey,

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01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 8: nobody else is in the building right now, but sure

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01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 8: use the restroom. The door a lock on your way out.

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01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 8: I'm going to go back into the jeweling piano bar

1421
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 8: and keep working away. I was like, great, I'm in

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01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 8: the restroom in a stall and suddenly the door opens

1423
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 8: to the restroom and the lights go out, and I

1424
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 8: was like, ah, excuse, like there's somebody in here. There's

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01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 8: a pause, and then there's footsteps, heavy footsteps that cross

1426
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 8: across the floor until something is standing right in front

1427
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 8: of the stole. And I'm a tool guide. I always

1428
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 8: have a flashlight on me, so I pull out my

1429
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 8: flashlights flick it on. There's men shoes standing on the

1430
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 8: other side of the stole door. They were like old

1431
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 8: timey shoes, like wingtips eyes what I think they're called.

1432
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 8: And as I turn my flashlight on the shoes, they

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01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 8: kind of shift back and forth a little, as if

1434
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,759
Speaker 8: this guy's deciding what to do, and then they step

1435
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 8: backwards out of the light. I'm terrified. This is like

1436
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 8: one of the scariest moments of my life. I gather

1437
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 8: myself together. I basically unlock the door to the stole

1438
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 8: at the same time as I kick it open, like

1439
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 8: in Ninja, and then I run through the bathroom to

1440
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 8: outside the restroom. I think I felt something sort of

1441
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 8: grab at my hair, but I was so terrified, I

1442
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 8: don't even know got to the outside of the restroom.

1443
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 8: Now I'm standing in the light. My heart's gitting a

1444
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 8: million miles an hour. After about a minute, I was like,

1445
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 8: I got a check, and so I lean back in.

1446
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 8: I used my elbow to nuts to open the door,

1447
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,440
Speaker 8: flick the lights on, look into the restroom.

1448
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: Nobody there, nobody there and no one. No one escaped,

1449
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: No one got out at all. Right, it couldn't happen.

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01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 8: No, It's the only exit to the restroom, like you

1451
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 8: would have. It's the only way to get in and

1452
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,879
Speaker 8: out of there. And after that, I lost ten.

1453
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 1: Pounds folloween diet.

1454
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 8: Nothing like having a good then. I haven't paid since

1455
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 8: you guys, it's been holding it in the.

1456
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 3: Doing.

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01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: But describe these tours. It's American Legacy Tours Miranda. So

1458
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 1: you've got how many people in a group? How do

1459
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: you book this stuff?

1460
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 3: Oh?

1461
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,719
Speaker 8: So it was really easy to book. Just go online

1462
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,759
Speaker 8: to American Legacy Tours dot com and we have fourteen

1463
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 8: different tours. Most of them are history tours or Baseball

1464
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 8: tours or Newpork Gangster tours, and then we have the

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01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 8: six wanted tours. The groups can be up to We

1466
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 8: try and tap them at around twenty because otherwise it's

1467
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,839
Speaker 8: just not as scary, and of varying experiences like Nightmare

1468
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 8: on Elm Street, which I've talked to you guys about

1469
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 8: over the years, where we go thirty feet underground into

1470
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 8: tunnels in the dark and we give you ghost hunting

1471
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 8: equipment and you go off and do your own ghost investigation.

1472
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 8: And then you have things like the New Pool one

1473
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 8: where you're over at Mansion Hill Tavern or Clifton and

1474
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 8: these are all walking tours, so you're walking around with

1475
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 8: a guide who's telling you the sort of crazy haunted

1476
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 8: history of the area. And yeah, no one will be

1477
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 8: jumping out at you. If anybody does jump out at you,

1478
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 8: I always say just follow me because I'll be running

1479
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 8: the fastest anybody in a clown class soon jumps out.

1480
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,560
Speaker 8: That's not someone from American Legacy Tours. We do not

1481
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 8: want that person you.

1482
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: As the old Joe goes Randa McGhee. It is always

1483
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,759
Speaker 1: our play. We just want to have you on someday

1484
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that was one thing you volunteered

1485
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 1: to do one day. Talk about your dating adventures long

1486
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: time ago. You've been married, happily married here for two years.

1487
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 1: I went out when you came here.

1488
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 8: I went out with one hundred and fourteen guys within

1489
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 8: a year and a half, and none of them are

1490
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 8: my husband.

1491
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: That's a good story right there. That's a have a

1492
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 1: weekly series on that. We appreciate it and we will

1493
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: see you soon.

1494
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 5: Okay.

1495
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 8: I love talking to you guys.

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01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you here. She is a

1497
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: lovely person, she really is. I mean, you've got to

1498
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 1: meet her in person. She is on the phone.

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01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 5: You hear.

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01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: She's a qualifier if she will wear you out talking

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01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 1: to her in person. Bet with that. We check in

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01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 1: with traffic and weather, what is going on