1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:01,000 Speaker 1: To night. 2 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 2: Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of 3 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 2: talk show host Michael Brown. 4 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 3: Brownie, No, Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job. 5 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: The Weekend with Michael Brown broadcasting Life from Denver, Colorado. 6 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: It's the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to have you 7 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: joining the program today. Text line, of course is always open. 8 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Text line number three three one zero three three three 9 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: one zero three. Keyword Michael Michael. Do me a favorite, 10 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Go follow me on social media platforms. You can follow 11 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: me on x, Instagram, Facebook, They're all at Michael D. 12 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: Brown at Michael D. 13 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 3: Brown. 14 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: So, last time we talked about the Epstein Files, Let's 15 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: shift this hour and let's talk about Don Lemon and 16 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: go through some of the stories about what's you know, 17 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: what the cub ball is telling you now about Don Lemon, 18 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: because I want to compare and contrast Don Lemon's true 19 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: involvement with Black Lives Matter and the actual disruption of 20 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: the church in Saint Paul, which he's been arrested for 21 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: violating the Ku Klux Klan Act and violating the civil 22 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: rights of those that and the Face Act and violating 23 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: the civil rights of those that were worshiping in church 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: that day before I tell you about Don Lemon, though, 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: does the name Steve Baker ring a bell with you? 26 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: Steve Baker January sixth. Steve Baker was a freelance journalist 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: on January sixth, twenty twenty one. Now, he had worked 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: in that regard for several years. He was a professional musician. 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: He toured with I think jazz bands. He was a 30 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: and still is, I think, a highly regarded trumpet player. 31 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: But if you go back to twenty twenty, back during COVID, 32 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: you know everything's getting closed down, including live music venues. 33 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: So mister Baker decided that, you know, since I can't 34 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: play a lot I think almost, I'm gonna shift and 35 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: start spending some more of my time to covering stories 36 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: that I believe are being overlooked by the cabal, by 37 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: the legacy media. So he started shifting and doing more 38 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: work that direction. In fact, he was so good at 39 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: it that mister Baker sold rights to his video to 40 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: numerous national media companies. In fact, some of the video 41 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 1: that he took on January sixth was purchased and licensed 42 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: to The New York Times and other networks, as well 43 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: as for use by HBO when they made a documentary 44 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: about that day. So he was a true freelance journalist, 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: actually making money doing so. So the video that Steve 46 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: Baker took on January six literally started as he walks 47 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: towards the Capital in the middle of a very large crowd. 48 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: He was not near the front, so he was able 49 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: to capture much of the activity taking place ahead of 50 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: him as he approached the Capitol building. Now, when he's 51 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: recording and you're in the middle of that crowd, he 52 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: was able to record a lot of the comments that 53 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: the protesters were making as he walked among them on 54 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: the way to the Capitol. Now, the first breach of 55 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: an entrance to the US Capitol Building happened at two 56 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: thirteen pm. He entered the Capitol through the same doors 57 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: six minutes later at two nineteen pm. Now, before he 58 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: entered that same door that had been breached, hundreds of 59 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: other protesters had entered the Capitol building ahead of him. 60 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: That's at two nineteen. Now we know all of this 61 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: because he was recording everything. Now, Steve Baker left the 62 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: Capitol at two fifty six, but was recording audio and 63 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: video the entire time and providing running commentary about the 64 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: events that he was observing all around him while he 65 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: was inside the Capitol building. He even walked up to 66 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: and asked questions of several members of the United States 67 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: Capitol Police that he was encountering as he walked along 68 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: the way. Now, a lawyer file a motion to dismiss 69 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: the charges against mister Baker based on selective prosecution. It 70 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: identified sixty other This motion to dismiss identified sixty other 71 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: credentialed and freelance journalists from all around the world who 72 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: had done the same thing that Steve Baker did. They 73 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: walked in among the crowd, recording everything, asking people questions, 74 00:04:55,000 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: recording all of that on video. None of those people 75 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: got prosecuted, Not a single one of them got prosecuted. 76 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: Steve Baker did, so his lawyer filed a motion to 77 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: dismiss based on selective prosecution. One of the examples that 78 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: they filed took special note of a person by the 79 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: name of Luke Moguelson, who at the time was also 80 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: a freelance journalist who was near the very front when 81 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: the protesters broke through the door. Mogulson was among the 82 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: very first individuals to go inside, and he captured audio 83 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: video of the events and then sold his story to 84 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: the New Yorker magazine, which published his article in January 85 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: fifteenth under a title in you can gingle google this 86 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: yourself Among the Insurrectionists. Now, the political point of view 87 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: reflected in his article is not hard to guess. If 88 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: you sell your story to New Yorker magazine and the 89 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: title and the headline that they give your story is 90 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: among the Insurrectionists, then you can pretty much guess what 91 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: his point of view was. Steve Baker, on the other hand, 92 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: went on to watch every day of the first Oathkeeper 93 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: trial and then he was later able to publish a 94 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: story that backed up was backed up by the video 95 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: evidence showing that two United States Capitol Police officers who 96 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: had provided a critical testimony in the first trial, had 97 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: lied on the stand about where they were and what 98 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: they saw those two cops. Those two US Capitol Police 99 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: officers are David Lazarus and Harry Dunn. So mister Baker 100 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: also reported confidential source claims about long standing corruption inside 101 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: the leadership of the US Capitol Police. He also reported 102 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: about the incompetence among the leadership, as confirmed by the 103 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: US Capitol Police he's chief. On January sixth, stephen Son. 104 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: For more than two years, he's been a full time 105 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: investigative reporter for Blaze Media, started back by Glenn Beck. 106 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: In March of twenty twenty four, thirty eight months after 107 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: the riot, more than thirty months after stephen was told 108 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: he was under investigation for having committed to felony, he 109 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: was charged by the Department of Justice for four misdemeanor offenses. 110 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: Remember Luke Muguson, the guy that sold Destroyed to New 111 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: Yorker Magazine, there was headlined among the insurrectionists. He was 112 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: given a journalism award, the George Polk Journalism Award. He 113 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: was also given the National Magazine Award in the Video category. 114 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 1: There was a press release posted by Condy nast Owns 115 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: the New Yorker magazine. In that press release, they say 116 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 1: this Luke Mugusson, a contributing riot, won his Shock One 117 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: for his shocking and surreal footage from inside the US Capitol. 118 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: In January sixth, twenty twenty one. Muggelson had attended President 119 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's stopped the Steel rally on the National Mall 120 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: that day and followed Trump supporters as they forced their 121 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: way into the Capitol and Senate Chamber. Afterwards, he used 122 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: his phone's camera to capture chaotic scenes from what followed. 123 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: The resulting film provides a visceral record of Americans holding 124 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: democracy hostage. 125 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: Hmm. 126 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: That's what Steve Baker did. But he got charged by 127 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: the Biden Department of Justice, and he was ordered to 128 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: surrender himself to the FBI Field office in Dallas, Texas, 129 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: where he was handcuffed put in leg shackles when he 130 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: made his initial appearance before a federal magistrate, after which 131 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: he was released on his own recognizance. In other words, 132 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: he was released without having to post a bail. That's 133 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: kind of interesting because it seems to me that Steve 134 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: Baker was doing the same thing that Luke Michelson was doing. 135 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: In fact, Luke Michelson, unlike Steve Baker, was at the 136 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: front of the crowd, saw the breach, recorded the breach 137 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: of the door. Steve Baker was back in the middle 138 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: of the crowd, and when he got up to the door, 139 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: the door was already open and he just walked in 140 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: with the rest of the crowd. 141 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: Hmm. 142 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: Doing the same thing being treated differently. I'm not surprised, 143 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: as lawyer filed a motion to dismiss based on selective prosecution. 144 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: What happens next? Hang tight, It's the Weekend with Michael Brown. 145 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: Text line three to three one zero three, keyword Michael, Michael. 146 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: I'll be right back. Welcome back to the Weekend with 147 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: Michael Brown. Good to have you with me. I appreciate 148 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: you tuning in. You know, he'd be a great if 149 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: you'd subscribed to the podcast on your podcast app, whichever 150 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: one you just search for the Situation with Michael Brown, 151 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: the Situation with Michael Brown. Hit that subscribe button, leave 152 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: a five star review, and then that will download the 153 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: five day weekday program that I do here in Denver, 154 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: plus the weekend program, so you get all of the 155 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: Michael Brown programming. So back to Steve Baker and this 156 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: guy named Luke Luke Mogulson. What Steve Baker did was 157 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: exactly what Luke Mogulson did. In fact, I would say 158 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: that if if you're looking, if you were looking to 159 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: charge somebody, and I'm not saying that I think Luke 160 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: Mogulson should have been charged. I'm simply asking why was 161 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: Steve Baker charged Because he was in the middle of 162 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: the crowd. He didn't see the breach. He walked through, 163 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: just like the Luke Mogelson did. That won an award 164 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: for recording, and in fact they published an article among 165 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: the insurrectionists. So is it the point of view because 166 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: Steve Baker, who works for climb, is obviously a conservative, 167 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: so he was. There's no evidence whatsoever he did anything wrong. 168 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: He walked in just like Luke Mogelson did. But he 169 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: is charged, handcuffed and has to appear in front of 170 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: a federal magistrate. The other freelance journalist gets an award. 171 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: When the Department of Justice opposed mister Baker's lawyer's motion 172 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: to dismiss they wrote this in this January sixth case. 173 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: The facts are largely not in dispute. Around the time 174 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty presidential election, the defendant mister Baker, 175 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: started an online podcast titled The Pragmatic Constitutionalist. The defendant 176 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: introduced the podcast as an expansion of a ten year 177 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: old hobby page that he maintained on Facebook with the 178 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: same title. The expansion included a crowd sourced website, as 179 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: well as a few other experimental podcasts. During the same period, 180 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: the defendant announced his previous source of income playing live 181 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: music likely would not be viable during the nation's response 182 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: to the COVID pandemic. The defendant continued to publish podcast 183 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: episodes where he expressed his political beliefs. A few weeks 184 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: after the election, the defendant began to expound upon a 185 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: more active rhetoric. During a discussion related to the then 186 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: upcoming peaceful transfer of power, the defendant stated, quote, I 187 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: have no intention of popping the corn and sitting in 188 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: for the show. I intend on being on the show. 189 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: The defendant, they wrote, continued, I don't know what kind 190 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: of show it is going to be, but I intend 191 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: on being in the middle of it, which, when you 192 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: think about it, he literally was in the middle of it, 193 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: unlike Luke Mogelson who was at the front of it. 194 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: The Department of the Biden Department of Justice, going after 195 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: Steve Baker wrote this. On January sixth, twenty twenty one, 196 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: the defendant joined the mob that breached the restricted perimeter 197 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: of the US Capitol Grounds and entered the US Capitol Building. 198 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: The defendant moved from near the Ellipse to the Capitol 199 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: through the National Mall. At approximately one ten pm, he 200 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: captured the scene using his phone near where makeshift gallows 201 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: had been constructed. What does that do with anything? The 202 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: defendant recorded as numerous individuals walked towards the Capitol at 203 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: the moment he stated, look out your windows. The words 204 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: look what's coming, and they include a statement of facts, 205 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: and he then continued toward the building. As his lawyer writes, 206 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: it's worth noting, as I did to the court, this 207 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: was one minute in three seconds prior to the crowd 208 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: breaking into the Capitol. It was while he was still 209 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: walking in the crowd to the Capitol, and was nothing 210 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: more than expression of the eyes of the protest that 211 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: was about to arrive outside the Capitol on that day. 212 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: It was complete bad faith for the government to claim 213 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: it was support for the breaking into the Capitol that 214 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: was more than an hour in the future. What the 215 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: Biden Department of Justice knew from the timing and from 216 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: the video was that that incident happened immediately after the 217 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: shooting of Ashley Babbitt by Michael Bird. Michael Bird had 218 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: broadcast over his radio that a protester had shot at him, 219 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: so at that point every US Capitol police officer drew 220 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: their weapons in response to Bird's claim that there was 221 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: an active shooter in the building, and in response, Steve 222 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: Baker asked a legitimate question of an officer he was 223 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: standing next to, are you going to use that gun 224 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: on us? Somehow the Department of Justice treated that comment 225 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: as being hostile or sarcastic, and was somehow evidence of 226 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: his guilt. I might have asked the same question, or asked, 227 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: you've pulled your weapon? Is there something going on? Am 228 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: I in danger? Do I need to leave? Are you 229 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: gonna shoot me? Isn't it interesting that you have two 230 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: journalists doing exactly the same thing. One gets an award 231 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: and published, the other gets charged with misdemeanors. The fact 232 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: that we've got Don Lemon entering a church can easily 233 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: be differentiated from what these two people did. I bring 234 00:15:54,320 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: up Steve Baker and I bring up the other reporter 235 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: primarily show you that the Department of Justice was hell 236 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: bent on prosecuting anyone that had any connection to the 237 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: crowds that entered the Capitol that day, regardless of whether 238 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: it was a legitimate prosecution or not. At some point, 239 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: which is true for any criminal, you have to make 240 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: a decision. Am I going to stick to my guns 241 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: on my innocence? Am I going to fight this with everything? 242 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: Am I going to mortgage my house? Am I going 243 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: to go in debt? Am I going to fight this? 244 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 4: Or? 245 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: Am I just going to take a lesser plea and 246 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: be done with it and save my life as best 247 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: I can from all of this hassle that I'm going 248 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: to have to go through. Mogulson, the guy that got 249 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: the award, he didn't face any of those kinds of 250 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: consequences for doing exactly the same kind of thing. Luke 251 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: Moguelson among the insurrectionists New Yorker Magazine, January fifteenth, twenty 252 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: twenty one. There are similarities between Mugalson and Baker. The 253 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: differences little if any. Oh, I know. The difference is 254 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: your political point of view. One is there because he 255 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: has Trump derangement syndrome. The other is there even though 256 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: they're doing the same thing, reporting on what's happening. One 257 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: has a point of view that doesn't match what the 258 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: Department of Justice thinks is the appropriate point of view. 259 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: So we have. 260 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: Literally point of view. Prosecution not based on elements of 261 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: a crime, but based on your opinion. Hmmm, let's go 262 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: to Don Lemon. I'll be right back. 263 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: Tonight. 264 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director. 265 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 5: Talk show host Michael Brown. 266 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: No, Brownie, you're doing a heck of a jump the 267 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 3: Weekend with Michael Brown. 268 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Do have 269 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: you with me? Text lines always open three three one 270 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: zero three three three one zero three, keyword Mike or Michael. 271 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: If you like what we do on the weekend, you 272 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: might want to take your iHeart app and listen to 273 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: me and stream me Monday through Friday. Monday through Friday, 274 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: you can find me on eight fifty KOA. It's eight 275 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: fifty am ninety four to one FM. The station call 276 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: letters are KOA and I broadcast from nine to noon 277 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: Monday through Friday out of Denver. So go on your 278 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: iHeart app, search for KOA at eight fifty am or 279 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: ninety four to one FM in Denver. Hit that preset 280 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: and listen to me or stream me live Monday through Friday, 281 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: nine to noon Mountain time. So back then. So now 282 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: let's switch from Steve Baker and Mogelson and what occurred 283 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: to them, and let's go to Don Lemon. Because a 284 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: grand jury in Minnesota has returned a federal indictment again 285 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: non Lemen and three other people for their participation in 286 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: the storming of a Saint Paul church. Attorney General Pam 287 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: Bondi announced on Friday that Lemon had been arrested at 288 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: her discretion, at her direction and according to Abby Lowell, 289 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: Yeah Zeph ring A Bell that's the same lawyer that 290 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: represented under Biden. According to a statement by him, federal 291 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: agents took the alleged journalist into custody Thursday evening in 292 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: La while he was covering the Grammy Awards. The charges 293 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: against Lemon one each for conspiracy against rights that's under 294 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: the Ku Klux Klan Act and violating the Face Act, 295 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: and also for injuring, interfering or intimidating at a place 296 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: of worship. That caps a nearly two weak legal battle 297 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: between the federal courts and the Trump Department of Justice. 298 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: While the shocking bias of the chief Judge, the same 299 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: judge who is presiding over the Trump administration's efforts to 300 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: deport those illegal aliens in the Twin cities of Minneapolis, 301 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: Saint Paul, the judges Patrick Schlipps, and he has played 302 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: a really active role in obstructing the Justice Department's attempts 303 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: to crimely charge Leomen following his breach of Citi's church 304 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: back on January nineteen. What happened, He and others terrorized 305 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: these worshipers during Sunday services in a hunt for an 306 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: alleged ICE agent who just happened to be a pastor 307 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: in that church. And as I did for my weekday audience, 308 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: I played audio of it's actually a video which you 309 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: can find online of Don Lemon interviewing the organizer. Now, 310 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: remember these are very well organized and funded protests. These 311 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: are not spur of the moment pro tests in which 312 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 1: they consciously talk about they're going to go in and 313 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: disrupt the church because one of the pastors in that 314 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: church happens to be the head of the ICE field 315 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: office in Minneapolis St. Paul. In addition to that, when 316 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: Don Lemon went in and is recording, he walks among 317 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: the pews, interrupting some of the congregants. They're trying to pray, 318 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: or they're trying to sing songs, you know, worship, do 319 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: hims whatever. One of the pastors. Remember, this is private property. 320 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: It is not the US capital, which is I mean, 321 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: it may be restricted. But the US Capital is a 322 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: public building. Anybody can go in. This church is private property. 323 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: One of the pastors takes mister Lemon by the arm 324 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: and tries to escort him out, and Don Lemon reacts 325 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: and essentially he refuses to leave. Now that's a fact. 326 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: That's a question of fact. How much resistance was there 327 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: and how much did they tried to push or any 328 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: pushing or pulling anything like that. But nonetheless, you're asked 329 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: to leave private property and you fail to do so, 330 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: that's trespassing. Now there's no federal trespassing charge here, but 331 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: there could be a state trespassing charge. But do you 332 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: think that the prosecutor or the Attorney General in Minnesota, 333 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: We're going to charge a gay black man as a 334 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: freelance journalist with trespassing in the middle of all the 335 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: crap going on in Minneapolis. Of course, not. 336 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 4: So. 337 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: After Magistrate Judge Doug Miko, who just happens to be 338 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: the husband of a top aide to the Attorney General 339 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, Keith Ellison, so that husband refused to sign 340 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: complaints for Lemon and a few others. The Department of 341 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: Justice then went to Chief Judge Schlitts as the chief 342 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: judge of the district to reverse Miko's decision. That request 343 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: prompted a heated back and forth between the federal judge 344 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: and the government, as well as a decision by the 345 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: Minnesota Appellate Court not to intervene, despite the funding by 346 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: one judge that the Department of Justice really did establish 347 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: probable cause for those individuals. But Schlitt's, the chief federal judge, 348 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: refused to reverse Miko's judgment. His argument was absurd. He 349 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: wasn't sure he had the ability to do so. Wait 350 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: a minute, you're the chief judge of the district. The 351 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: magistrate judge are inferior judges to you. You can overrule 352 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: that judge. You can look at the warrant yourself, and 353 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: you can make your own determination whether or not probable 354 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: cause has been shown. But he punted. He punted by saying, one, 355 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm not really showing the authority to do this, and 356 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: then he challenged the Department of Justice to take its 357 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: case to a grand jury. So you know what the 358 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: Department of Justice did, said, hold my beer, and they 359 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: took it to a grand jury, and the grand jury 360 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: and died it. You know, a few you know, let's 361 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: remember what Don Lemon did. Uh yeah, I'm not sure 362 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 1: why we're not getting the audio. Let's see, yeah, I'm 363 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: playing audio, and in fact we may maybe because of 364 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: our technical problems. 365 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 4: Speaking to an organization there that's gearing up to for 366 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 4: resistance and protests. I've been surprised, pleasantly surprised to see 367 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 4: the community coming together. 368 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 3: In the Verse community. 369 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: If you see this. When we first pulled up, we're like, 370 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: wait a minute, what is which? 371 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 4: Which operation are we at? And as it turns out, 372 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 4: because we were like, well, this is kind of maga coated, right, 373 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 4: so the American flag or whatever, but these what he's. 374 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: Doing is he's pointing to some people. It's a diverse crowd, men, women, black, white, 375 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: they're all bundled up. They have an American flag, and 376 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: he goes, oh, you know, we've got a he got 377 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: a mega crowd here. Oh oh oh, they're stay away 378 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: from them. 379 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: Our resistance protests. They're planning an operation that we're going 380 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 4: to follow them on. I can't tell you exactly. 381 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: They're planning a resistance operation that we are going to 382 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: follow them. He admits that he knows what they're doing, 383 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: that they're going to violate the law, and he's going 384 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: to go follow them. Now, you may say, and I've 385 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: heard people make the argument that, well, we have correspondents 386 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: that go into war and they might see a human 387 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: rights violation, they might violate the rules of engagement. Uh, yes, 388 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: that's not on American soil. Here, you're on American soil, 389 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: and here we have constitutional rights, including Don Lemon. Don 390 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: Lemon has a First Amendment right as a journalist. But 391 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: when you become a part of the group, you see 392 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: there's a distinction between I'm here reporting and we're not 393 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 1: sure what's going to happen, but we're here to report 394 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: what's happening. So as the crowd remember go back to 395 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: Stephen Baker, go back to Mogelsen who on January sixth, 396 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: they didn't know what was going to happen. They follow 397 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: the crowd in. One of them doesn't get charged for 398 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: trespassing for going in. The other one, because of his 399 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: political point of view, doesn't really know what's going on. 400 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: Either doesn't see the breach of the door, follows the 401 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: crowd in, he gets charged. What's the difference, and it 402 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: is a difference with a distinction. Here, Don Lemon has 403 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: been actively participating with the protesters who are about to 404 00:26:54,280 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: break the law, and in fact uses the pronoun we 405 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: we are going to follow them, we are going to 406 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: go in, We're all going to go do. 407 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,479 Speaker 4: This they're doing, but it's called operation pull Up and 408 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 4: it's the Chema Arms song. And she has been doing 409 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 4: this since George Floyd, Dante Wright and others, where they 410 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: surprise people, cast them off card and hold them to account. 411 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 4: And so that's what we're doing here, and then we're 412 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 4: after that. 413 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: That's what we're doing here. We're going to go in 414 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: and hold them to account. I just find it interesting 415 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: that if he's as smart as he claims to be, 416 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: why do you keep recording and saying that this is 417 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: what we're going to go do. We're going to go 418 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: hold them to account. I'm going to use that as 419 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: evidence in a criminal trial. 420 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 4: Do this operation that you'll see it live, and use 421 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 4: these operations and surprise operations again. And can't tell you 422 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 4: where they're going. 423 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 1: I can't tell you where they're going, but I know 424 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: where they're going. And then they do. 425 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 3: Renee God, renee God, renee God. 426 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: So these are the protesters inside the church as they're 427 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: trying to worship, and Don Lemon is filming walking among 428 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,719 Speaker 1: the congregants, in my opinion, being as disruptive as the 429 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: protesters are, and then he encounters one of the pastors. 430 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: What do you think of it? I mean, this is unacceptable, 431 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 3: It's shameful. It's shameful to interrupt a public gathering of 432 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 3: Christians in worship. 433 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: Right, but. 434 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 3: I have to take care of my flock. 435 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 4: There's a Constitution in the First Amendment to freedom of 436 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 4: speech and the freedom to assemble a protests. 437 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: We're here to worship. We're here to worship with Jesus 438 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 3: because that's the hope of these cities. That's the hope 439 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: of the world is Jesus Christ. I'm very respectful. Please 440 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: don't push me there. We're here. 441 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: He's this pastor. Just try to push him out of 442 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: the church. And Lemon's response is, don't push me. My 443 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: response would be then leave, leave. 444 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: Here to worship Jesus. That's while we're here. Okay, that's 445 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: why we're here, hope, that's what we're about, which you 446 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: think Jesus would be understanding, and we're about we're about 447 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: lestraining to love the Jesus. And you just try to 448 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: talk to them. Everyone is willing to talk. Okay, I 449 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: have to take care about church and my family. So 450 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 3: I asked this, you actually would also leave for this 451 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 3: bield if you don't want us. I'm always worship. I'm 452 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 3: a Christian. We're here when we're here to worship. We're 453 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: here to worship. Okay, thank you very much. 454 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: He won't leave. We won't leave. So that's the background. 455 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: That's what's going on. Now. When we get back, let's 456 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: think about Judge Slits' behavior in all these matters, and 457 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: let's think about his financial support. His financial support of 458 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: a radical pro illegal Immigration Act of AS group in 459 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: Minnesota that makes clear that, guess what, he has no 460 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: business presiding over these cases whatsoever. I'll be right back. 461 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to 462 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: have you with me. I'm just looking at text messages. 463 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to look correspondence, Michael writes, 464 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: gubern Urmer ninety five zero four. Correspondents don't go on 465 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: bank robberies, house invasions, drug deals, or other things on. 466 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: They might tag along sometime, but they you're right, they 467 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: don't run in Oh are you going to rob this bank? 468 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: I am Oh, can we follow you in? Yeah, I 469 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: don't think you would to do that. That might be 470 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: in you might be classified as an accomplice. But I 471 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: want you to know about this judge. I think the 472 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: Department of Justice ought to seek his recusal, take him 473 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: off this case. And then I think that I'll go 474 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: even from and file a misconduct complaint over his egregious 475 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: political statements, most of which were without basis. They served 476 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,959 Speaker 1: no other purpose than to fuel an already dangerous situation 477 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: on the ground in Minneapolis, and he is actively from 478 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: the bench trying to sabotage their deportation efforts, which are lawful. 479 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: After the judge's first missive in which he downplayed Lemon's conduct, 480 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: Fox News reporter Bill Beluke Mallusion disclosed that Schlitz and 481 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: his wife had donated to the Immigrant Law Center of 482 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: Minnesota in twenty nineteen, and in fact, the judge confirmed 483 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: in a statement to Fox that he had donated to 484 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: that non government organization for many years because he had 485 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: a belief that all people should be able to get 486 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: legal representation. But guess what. Getting legal representation is only 487 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: a tiny part of what that NGO does to help 488 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants beat the system and to become permanent residents 489 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: entitled to the same rights as all of US citizens, 490 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: such as illegally getting driver's licenses. Now, there are recent 491 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: news releases that refer to Operation Metro Surge as a 492 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: campaign of terror as an occupation by the federal government. 493 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: Well guess what. The group Immigrant Law Center of Minnesota 494 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: also claims that Renee Good and Alex Pretty were murdered 495 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: by the government for defending their neighbors against ICE violence 496 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. This group alleges that these ICE agents have 497 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: brought sheer terrors to neighborhoods across the state, breaking down doors, 498 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: arresting people in hospitals, tear gassing students, racially profiling, abducting 499 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: people of color, threatening anyone who stands in their way. 500 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: This horror and violence may be new to some, but 501 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: marginalized communities have experienced since the founding of this country. 502 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: And that's who the judge is getting money to. That's 503 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: who the judge is getting money to. I find an 504 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: alarming and that any federal judge routinely contributes to such 505 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,959 Speaker 1: a radical organization that is now actively fomenting violence and 506 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: lawless lawlessness in a major US city. But It is 507 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: particularly egregious for a powerful judge that is handling dozens 508 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: of related cases where he brazenly places his thumbs on 509 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: the scale of justice in favor of a group for 510 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: which he is a regular benefactor. Now he has presided 511 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: over at least three habeas lawsuits filed by the immigration 512 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: lawyers that were on this in Geo's referral list. One 513 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: case in particular represents the basis for his accusation that 514 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: todd Lyons, the acting ICE director, violated the court order 515 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: demanding a bond hearing for an illegal immigrant known as Wan, 516 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: and he canceled that hearing after the government released Wan, 517 00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: per this judge's directing. But his order canceling contempt hearing 518 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: that acted again as a vehicle for the judge to 519 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: promote his political narrative about the Trump administration. He detailed 520 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: in a four page index with case numbers only, he 521 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: accused Ice of violating ninety six court orders of Minnesota 522 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: District Court. Now you'd have to go each to each 523 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: separate case to determine the nature of the allegations. So 524 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: he just made up a list. He didn't write it out. 525 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: He's too lazy to write it out. It is one 526 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: thing for a judge to have political views. I don't 527 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: care if a judge has political views. What I expect 528 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: is that a judge will not act on those views 529 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: as a donor or a supporter to someone who actively 530 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: goes out and reflects those views and actually encourages the 531 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: breaking of the law and violence. It's quite another to 532 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: misrepresent the fact in a court order, which is what 533 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: this judge continues to do. Now, even though he and 534 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: Alie will deny a motion to recuse, you know, judges 535 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: themselves or give him first shot, they get to decide 536 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: themselves first whether they're going to recuse themselves or not. 537 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: The Department of Justice still should try to proceed accordingly 538 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: and try to get him to recuse himself because his partisan, 539 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: inaccurate and destructive allegations should not go unanswered. Then Don 540 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: Lemon goes on the. 541 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 5: Podcast, I think these maga men they have like hide mind. 542 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 5: None of them are unique, none of them are the 543 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 5: alphas they think they are. 544 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 2: They just all take their orders every day, what's Elon saying, 545 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: what's Trumps saying, and they have to bend and muld 546 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: and you are a prize for them. An independent gay black, happy, 547 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: successful man, and what. 548 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: Does they have to do with anything? Why do they 549 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: always have to play the sexual preference card or the 550 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: right I mean, he is all of those things, but 551 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care what a sexual preference is. 552 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: I don't care what a skin color is. I care 553 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: that he's actively engaged in violating the law and that 554 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: someone is finally trying to hold some of these reporters accountable. 555 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: Has caused the Left to go apoplectic, primarily because they 556 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: know that they really can't survive without these reporters pushing 557 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: that agenda. They can't survive without all of the useful 558 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: idiots to consume this kind of propaganda, actually buying into 559 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: it and going along with it. And for once in 560 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: my lifetime, they're being held accountable. So I say, go 561 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: for it. Absolutely, go for it. Text line has always 562 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: opened three three one zero three keyword micro Michael. So 563 00:36:53,480 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: we came with Michael Brown. I'll be right back, Yeah,