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Speaker 1: the hour of three o'clock Central daylight time, we welcome you

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Speaker 1: back to a Tuesday edition of the Bumper to Bumper program.

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Speaker 1: It's a generally a three and a half hour tour.

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Speaker 1: Are we three and a half today? I assume yes,

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Speaker 1: no reason we're gonna get off early today. It should

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Speaker 1: be Yeah, makes some sense to me. We are delighted

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Speaker 1: her along for the ride today. Guardsie is the producer

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Speaker 1: of the program. My name is Dan Barrero, the former

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Speaker 1: ing Stained Wretch newspaper of the Twin Cities. So we

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Speaker 1: will go the distance to day till six thirty outstanding

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Speaker 1: guests that we hope will compel you to continue to

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Speaker 1: listen to the broadcast today, and that will include Kevin

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Speaker 1: Seaffert at the bottom of the hour. Sadly not in studio,

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Speaker 1: guards he tells me, but at least we get him.

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Speaker 1: Nacho liber not in studio at four forty seven today,

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Speaker 1: and definitely not in studio given its forty seven degrees

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Speaker 1: in raining. Luigi will be chatting with us from shall

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Speaker 1: we say, far more tropical climbs. Let me ask you

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Speaker 1: a question I think I've asked Luigi before, because I

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Speaker 1: know you've spent well, I mean, I've obviously, over the

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Speaker 1: decades spent time in Florida. But I think you're vacationing.

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Speaker 1: You've spent more time in Florida than I have. I think,

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong? We've been there quite a bit. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So is is it true that if you pick let's

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Speaker 1: not have to deal with the withering do points, humidity,

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Speaker 2: How different? How much?

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Speaker 1: How far down does the due point go in the

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Speaker 1: the winter months, et cetera. I mean you recall it

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Speaker 1: gets pretty comfortable. Okay, yeah, it gets pretty comfortable to

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Speaker 1: be hot from a temperature standpoint, yes, but nowhere near

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Speaker 1: as steaming exactly, because the summer Florida is unbearable as

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Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned now. Today, for example, and where

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Speaker 1: pretty Minnesota summary. Eighty four degrees with a due point

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Speaker 1: I know we have Florida transplants who listen to the program,

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Speaker 1: and we can certainly talk to Luigi about that, among

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Speaker 1: other things. At five thirty plenty of tennis tournaments in July,

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Speaker 1: That was mess I mean you got to, like, I

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Speaker 2: For the rest of this season for the bumper to

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Speaker 2: bumper program? Is that right? The power of completions? Excuse me?

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Speaker 2: Do you know the quote I'm talking about? I think

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Speaker 1: True, there's a bunch it's it's it's perfect and it

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Speaker 1: comes from, of course Koc who else, the quarterback whisperer,

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Speaker 1: the man who's job this week is to decide, because

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Speaker 2: No one else is going to make this call.

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Speaker 1: He will decide who will start a quarterback when the

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Speaker 1: Vikings host the Philadelphia Eagles high noon on Sunday. Right

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Speaker 1: here in the fan ten o'clock pregame sermons nine go

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Speaker 2: Correct, you got it.

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Speaker 1: One of the things JJ took away from watching Carson

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Speaker 1: it too often and too quickly. But in fact, during

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Speaker 1: Because if you google in, you're sending me right into

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Speaker 1: it's when both priests who are performing the exorcism of

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Speaker 1: They're trying to bring the damn thing down, is what

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Speaker 1: power of completions compels you. JJ McCarthy to learn exactly

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Speaker 1: Now, what's interesting about this is has choc have had

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Speaker 2: The I mean, I've never heard the term before.

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Speaker 1: The power of completions, because again, the whole point of

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a really bad day for you to

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Speaker 1: bring this up with me. Why because I had because

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Speaker 2: But it's a Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: But I spoke to somebody and we were speaking about

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Speaker 1: Drake Lindsay, and inevitably, the conversation about Max Brozmer came up.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and what you just.

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Speaker 1: Read that quote right there about even if it's a

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Speaker 1: That came up today talking about Brosmer. A guy told

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Speaker 1: he said there was a catch last year Lemecky Brockington

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Speaker 1: But Brozmer saw it and wanted the completion because it

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Speaker 2: It was there.

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Speaker 1: The power of completions compel you, and because they were

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Speaker 2: To all options.

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Speaker 1: And maybe this is his way of also encouraging Carson

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we've seen it consistently. We've seen

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Speaker 2: Maybe in this case, he too.

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Speaker 1: Has convinced himself that the power of completions compels him

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Speaker 1: that's what he sees his quarterback do. Especially, one could

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Speaker 1: The power of completions compels you anyway, the fan of

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Speaker 2: Compels you, compels you, compels you? Traumatic?

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Speaker 1: Father, I think Damien Carris was one of the priests

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Speaker 1: and the the the like accomplished seasoned exorcists, because father

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Speaker 1: Carris was he'd never done an exorcism before he was

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Speaker 1: a kid. He's JJ McCarthy of exorcisms of exorcists. I

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting thought. What else do we got going

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Speaker 1: I propose I propose we lend McCarthy to Sfo and

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Speaker 1: Eighty eight degrees two point sixty one in Cape Coral,

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Speaker 1: Florida right now, Dan, this is Adam checking in from

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Speaker 1: Dan, That's exactly what the Packers did with Love for

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Speaker 2: In Saint Paul.

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Speaker 1: McCarthy needs to touch every blade of grass, Fallness, got wild, Sass,

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Speaker 1: I'll just go with Joe Cool, because that's what some

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Speaker 3: the general manager of the Browns, must be smarter than

436
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Speaker 3: everybody else. And so you very rarely hear anything other

437
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Speaker 3: than very vay little criticism towards another team, And my

438
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Speaker 3: only assumption there is that Mike Tomlin was was bitter,

439
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Speaker 3: not just was basically bitter that the Browns potentially altered

440
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Speaker 3: the future, the short term future of the AFC North

441
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Speaker 3: by giving the Bengals, who seemed to be totally out

442
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Speaker 3: of luck at quarterback, a lifeline. Uh and for not

443
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Speaker 3: for not really a big price. I think that there

444
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Speaker 3: was a pick swap there. And so there's a lot

445
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Speaker 3: of teams that I think probably behind the scenes, would have,

446
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Speaker 3: you know, would be bitter about it, but very rare

447
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Speaker 3: for anyone to do it. But Mike Tommins, certainly at

448
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Speaker 3: the NFL's most tenured coach, has the cachet to do it.

449
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Speaker 1: His cousin's going to get traded before the deadline. The

450
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Speaker 1: name keeps coming up when people are putting together the lists,

451
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Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's because, well, it's an

452
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Speaker 1: obvious name to put on the list, or because people

453
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Speaker 1: actually think there is a way that something like that

454
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Speaker 1: could happen.

455
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Speaker 3: I mean, it depends on how desperate the team is,

456
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Speaker 3: and that's always been the Falcons position. They did not

457
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Speaker 3: have any interest, and I think they proved, you know,

458
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Speaker 3: they weren't just bluffing there that they really didn't have

459
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Speaker 3: much interest in trading Kirk Cousins for just to get

460
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Speaker 3: his just to you know, sort of get him out

461
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Speaker 3: of the building, because there's probably some ill will there,

462
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Speaker 3: like they're going to want somebody to take on the

463
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Speaker 3: salary or give them a whole bunch of draft picks

464
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Speaker 3: and or players in return in order to make that deal.

465
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Speaker 3: So I you know, you see a team like the

466
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Speaker 3: Bengals trade for Joe Flacco at a much lower cost

467
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Speaker 3: in terms of assets and salary than you did than

468
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Speaker 3: you would for Kirk Cousins. But if somebody is really

469
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Speaker 3: desperate and there's another injury between now and the trading deadline,

470
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Speaker 3: it's certainly possible. But it's gonna take a lot.

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Speaker 1: If you had to place a wager in Vegas or

472
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Speaker 1: any place illegal as well on who starts for the

473
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Speaker 1: Vikings on Sunday against the Eagles, where are you placing

474
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Speaker 1: that wager?

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Speaker 2: If he had to today.

476
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Speaker 3: If I had to today, I would say it's a

477
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Speaker 3: safer bet to say Carson Wentz. I do believe that

478
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Speaker 3: the head coach has left himself enough wiggle room that

479
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Speaker 3: if JJ McCarthy blows everybody away and practice this week

480
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Speaker 3: that it could happen, But it's going to take that

481
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Speaker 3: type of week for JJ to get back in the

482
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Speaker 3: lineup as quickly. I think they want to see him

483
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Speaker 3: him go through a full week of full reps in

484
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Speaker 3: the starter role and to upon their review to be

485
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Speaker 3: demonstrating no issues relating to the ankle or to any

486
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Speaker 3: rust on the mechanical and fundamental issues that they've been

487
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Speaker 3: talking about. And that's a lot to do in the

488
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Speaker 3: course of really two or three days.

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Speaker 1: Texter writes this, this is from Chris. Only the Vikings

490
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Speaker 1: can have a quarterback controversy that involves a guy that's

491
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Speaker 1: not ready and a guy that's washed up.

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Speaker 2: There is no good choice. Is that too harsh?

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess no one's bringing up the third option there.

494
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Speaker 2: Well, Guards, you will just give him time?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, I don't ye know. I wouldn't say. I

496
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Speaker 3: wouldn't put Carson Wentz in the wash category. I would

497
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Speaker 3: just put him in the way we've talked about him

498
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Speaker 3: in previous weeks is that he's played well as a backup,

499
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Speaker 3: and over time, backups tend to ebb and flow. Generally speaking,

500
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 3: he's shown more or proficiency in the offense in his

501
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 3: third start than he did in the first, and so

502
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Speaker 3: that's something to take into account to I keep going

503
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: back to it, but I thought it was really interesting

504
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 3: how he kind of referenced, Hey, you know, I'm still

505
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: learning how to throw at Justin Jefferson. There's a lot

506
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Speaker 3: of passes that you wouldn't throw to anybody else, but

507
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: to him you can and it works out. And so

508
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Speaker 3: as we saw in that final drive against the Browns,

509
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Speaker 3: and so I think there's still room for growth there.

510
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Speaker 3: I don't think that you can necessarily say he's the

511
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Speaker 3: guy that's going to lead them to a long playoff run,

512
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Speaker 3: at least right now. But I don't think that he's

513
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Speaker 3: washed either.

514
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Speaker 1: Okay, so a little too certain for that for you. Okay,

515
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Speaker 1: that's fair. I'll accept that answer. Here's another textas come

516
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Speaker 1: in directly for you. This is from Carl Lake elmol add.

517
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Speaker 1: Brian Flores's response today on Harrison Smith's stapcounts to the

518
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Speaker 1: long list of odd injury responses this season. Seffert is

519
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Speaker 1: this year different in terms of injury clarity the years past,

520
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: because it seems bizarre this year between the darrisaw stuff

521
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Speaker 1: Harrison and JJ.

522
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Speaker 3: Well on the Harrison Smith saying that the response to

523
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Speaker 3: I didn't take the response that Brian Flores gave on

524
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Speaker 3: Harrison Smith today told me that from a football standpoint,

525
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Speaker 3: they feel like they're in their best lineup with THEO

526
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Speaker 3: Jackson and Josh Mattela playing every down and then Harrison

527
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Speaker 3: Smith playing in the nickel. When we follow up on

528
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Speaker 3: that and said, you know what's changed here, Florest said

529
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Speaker 3: that he still feels like, you know, they're working their

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Speaker 3: way back. But like I like Harrison Smith really, you know,

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Speaker 3: he's been a full participant in practice. Like I suppose

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Speaker 3: it's possible that there's still some lingering conditioning issues from

533
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Speaker 3: having missing missed training camp, but we're definitely moving past

534
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Speaker 3: the explanation that the the injury explanation, the personal health

535
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Speaker 3: issue explanation that applied prior to the buy than where

536
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Speaker 3: we are now. If this if on Sunday after the

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Speaker 3: buye against the Eagles here, if Harrison Smith is playing

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Speaker 3: you know, just the dime or the nickel or you know,

539
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Speaker 3: a third or you know, forty percent of the snaps,

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Speaker 3: then I think we have to assume that as of

541
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Speaker 3: now at least he's not their first option at either

542
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Speaker 3: of those safety positions. It doesn't mean he doesn't have

543
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 3: an important role with the team. But I don't know

544
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Speaker 3: where else we can look for an explanation other than

545
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Speaker 3: they've made a little bit more of a football decision

546
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Speaker 3: as opposed to purely a health decision.

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Speaker 2: Well, but I mean, that's that's interesting, right.

548
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Speaker 1: I think it was fair to say that's the first

549
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Speaker 1: time that's been clarified to that degree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he you know, in the follow up, he

551
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: did reference still coming back from stuff. But I guess

552
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Speaker 3: the large your point is that that when he was

553
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Speaker 3: asked if if Harrison Smith is going to keep ramping up,

554
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Speaker 3: is going to ramp up into a full time role,

555
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: he didn't say that he was. He said that, you know,

556
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Speaker 3: it's that Theo Jackson and Josh Mattelis are playing well,

557
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 3: and that it's going to be more of a game plan,

558
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: you know, situation as far as answering that question what's

559
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: best for that particular week and what's the you know,

560
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: what's best for the team. And he said it's possible

561
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Speaker 3: that they'll look to get him in a little more.

562
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Speaker 3: But like just the overall tone was felt to me

563
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: like more about football and less about health.

564
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Speaker 1: We've been having some fun with one of the richer

565
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: KOC quotes regarding the quarterback situation, or maybe not so

566
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: much that, but style of play. And I'm sure you've

567
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: seen it. You might have been there for it. I

568
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: don't know. And this goes back to him to the

569
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Speaker 1: head coach, suggesting that I think this was Monday where

570
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: he suggested that look as he has sat, JJ has

571
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Speaker 1: absorbed a number of perhaps compelling lessons from the veteran

572
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Speaker 1: Wentz starting at QB.

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Speaker 2: Here's the quote.

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Speaker 1: One of the things he took away from watching Carson

575
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Speaker 1: play was the power of completions that don't always go

576
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Speaker 1: to the first or second progression. So we've kind of

577
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: figured that ended up cut out of being the mantra

578
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: of the year, that the power of completions compels JJ

579
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Speaker 1: to not be afraid to take small chunks of yardage,

580
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: not be afraid to check down. That's even a term

581
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Speaker 1: that I think the head coach uses in this particular quote,

582
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Speaker 1: although I mentioned maybe it's an education for the head

583
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: coach himself as a guy who just tended to want

584
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 1: to zing the ball. So are we going into this

585
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Speaker 1: new phase where whoever is a quarterback, all we care

586
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: about is the power of completions, not so much that

587
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: it's got to be twenty, you know, twenty nine yards

588
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: downfield to JJ.

589
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Speaker 3: You know that he actually has been pretty consistent with that.

590
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: I don't think he's used the phrase power of completions,

591
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: but he's I can remember him over over previous years

592
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 3: talking about how important he thinks any completion is and

593
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: the damage it does to a defense, and that even

594
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: if it's just two or three yards, you know, minimal

595
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 3: chunks down the field, that over time, those take a

596
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 3: toll on defenses, and they move the ball in the

597
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 3: right direction, and they're important. And he doesn't want, you know,

598
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 3: big game hunting to completely ignore the value of just

599
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 3: finding a place to move the ball forward through the air.

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Speaker 3: And so he's been very I think that's one of

601
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: his central mantras and always has been in terms of

602
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: the passing game. And I know, you know, there's a

603
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: perception and a lot of it's fueled by reality of

604
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: his desire to get big chunks down the field, and

605
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 3: that's not a bad thing. But he also has been

606
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: pretty consistent, and it's something I've heard him preach over

607
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: and over again over the years. It's like, just find

608
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: a way to get eight completion, you know, a completion,

609
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: go through the progressions that the plays are built that

610
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: if you don't see the first one, the second one

611
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 3: will be coming open. If the second one isn't coming open,

612
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: then the third one is time to come open. And

613
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: so they're going to be there. Just find the one

614
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: that's there and throw. And so I think, to me,

615
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: what that him bringing that up means that he probably

616
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: didn't think McCarthy was totally on track doing that all

617
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Speaker 3: the time, and I think the completion percentage would tell

618
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: you that's the case. And just seeing Carson Wentz kind

619
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Speaker 3: of more, you know, efficiently following that, especially against the Browns,

620
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 3: some against the Steelers and Bengals as well of just

621
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Speaker 3: finding ways to complete the pass, make up something of

622
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 3: a positive of it and go to the next play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

624
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: Back in the Christian Ponder days, I was certainly in

625
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: the group that mocked his I felt almost obsession with

626
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: checking the ball down to the point where we referred

627
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: to him one of his nicknames was checked down Charlie.

628
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Speaker 1: And somebody pointed out, well, the problem when Ponder's case

629
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Speaker 1: was he had no choice. He had one of the

630
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Speaker 1: weakest arms in the history of the game.

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Speaker 2: Is that true? Is that your recollection of it? Did

632
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Speaker 2: he was?

633
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: He?

634
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Speaker 2: Did he have a noodle for an arm?

635
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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know that I recall it being

636
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: a noodle. It wasn't a Sam Darnold, you know, Carson

637
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: Wentz seventy five yards in the air kind of thing.

638
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: But I also I'm trying to remember who would have

639
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: been his downfield receivers.

640
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 2: In those days.

641
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Speaker 3: I don't know that they had a great list of them.

642
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: Those were That was prior to Diggs, I think maybe,

643
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 3: and prior to Adam Feeling. Maybe I'm getting my era

644
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: is wrong. So but I don't know that arms strength

645
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: was the number one thing there. But he certainly wasn't

646
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: one of the strongest arm quarterbacks in the league.

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Speaker 1: Do you buy the theory that if Wentz starts plays

648
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: at least creditably to better than that, you know, in

649
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: other words, the the the the basement would be creditibly

650
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: but at least that good and maybe better, and the

651
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: Vikings beat the Eagles, that there's no question that he

652
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: would start against the Chargers. And then at that point

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Speaker 1: there then after you come off that game, you got

654
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Speaker 1: extra time. Maybe then at that point you take another

655
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Speaker 1: fresh look. Do you buy that premise? If Wentz he's

656
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: reasonably where and they.

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Speaker 3: Win, I think they have probably two more games of

658
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 3: wiggle room here before they really have to address I

659
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: agree the depth chart question. I guess you can. I

660
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: think I mean again, maybe McCarthy blows everybody out of

661
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 3: the water and it gets answered this week and he plays.

662
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Speaker 3: But in the in the event that it does not,

663
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Speaker 3: and Carson Wentz plays this week, and barring complete disaster,

664
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Speaker 3: you can easily get him to that Thursday game and say,

665
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: look like we only have one practice between the Eagles

666
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 3: game and the Chargers game. It's it's not enough time

667
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 3: to affect this change. You know, I think everybody would

668
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: buy that. But then the following week, which I think

669
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 3: is the Lions, if if it's still wins, then you

670
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 3: basically have to accept that. You know, he's the starter

671
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: and JJ is the backup or a backup, and and

672
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Speaker 3: you go from there. But I think they're probably a

673
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: couple of weeks out from having to even if they

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Speaker 3: don't say it, even having to demonstrate.

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Speaker 1: Guardie reminds us that the word now from the Vikings

676
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: is that both quarterbacks will be made available tomorrow. Earlier

677
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Speaker 1: today I heard the Paul Allen project with KOC for

678
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Speaker 1: Ex's and O's and he said it's unlikely that he's

679
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: going to pull the old we're not going to make

680
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Speaker 1: an annow until Saturday or Sunday, that he will probably

681
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Speaker 1: declare before then. What do you make of that decision

682
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Speaker 1: for tomorrow? Is that just playing the thing out a

683
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: little bit more, or is do you think it is

684
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Speaker 1: any chance they really might try to create suspense all week?

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Speaker 3: I don't think. What I took from his answer was

686
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Speaker 3: that they're not going to like literally say, we'll let

687
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: you know in ninety minutes before the game who the

688
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: starter is very possible to go at least until Friday.

689
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Speaker 3: And even if it goes to Friday, not out of the

690
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Speaker 3: question that they wouldn't announce it. They're certainly not obligated to,

691
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: and you know, there might be some advantage to it.

692
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Speaker 3: But I think that functionally they'll have an idea here

693
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Speaker 3: in the next forty eight hours, I would think for sure,

694
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: and when they announce it, I guess it's just it's

695
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 3: a little bit of logistics and semantics, both of those

696
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 3: guys talking tomorrow. I mean they you know, you can't

697
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: hold people back from talking to the media just because

698
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: there's a compet you know, there's a there's a I

699
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: won't say competition, but there's a question as to who's

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Speaker 3: going to be the starter. I mean, all players are

701
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 3: supposed to be made available to the media, So I

702
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: take that as just the Vikings facilitating the fact that

703
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 3: they're obligated to talk and everybody's gonna want to talk

704
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 3: to them, so they're going to organize that had one

705
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Speaker 3: I guess if one of the players had been at

706
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: the podium and the other hadn't, I suppose you could

707
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: maybe read something into that, But I guess it doesn't

708
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: sound like that's what's going to be the case.

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Speaker 1: Do you buy the notion that the Vikings have sort of, well,

710
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: blunder is the not the right turn, but lucked their

711
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: way into finding Brandell's best position might be a position

712
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: where they need immediate help at center. What do we

713
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: make ofout those comments?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Today, you know, we asked West Phillips, the offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 3: what how he thinks about brandal like Brandell after it

717
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: started making his first ever start at center. You know,

718
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Speaker 3: do they just view him as a guy who can

719
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Speaker 3: play it or somebody that they might want to use

720
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Speaker 3: because Ryan Kelly's on injury reserve, the starter and Michael

721
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Speaker 3: Jurgens is working his way back. Should be practice yesterday,

722
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 3: should be in practice this week. But they would have

723
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Speaker 3: to make a decision, you know, do you want to

724
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Speaker 3: play Jurgons or do you want to play Brandal And

725
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Speaker 3: we what Phelps said is that you know, we might

726
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Speaker 3: have found out here that that that center might be

727
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Speaker 3: the best of his of the five positions for him,

728
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Speaker 3: and so that you know that that would give them

729
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Speaker 3: I mean that indicates to me that they're at least

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Speaker 3: strongly considering keeping Brandle at that spot. And you say,

731
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Speaker 3: you always want to have your best five offensive linemen

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Speaker 3: on the field, and I do think that he's one

733
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Speaker 3: of their top five guys, and if he can play center,

734
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Speaker 3: that probably were the best case scenario. And he certainly

735
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Speaker 3: showed that he could the other week. So they didn't

736
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Speaker 3: come right out and say it, but it certainly would

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Speaker 3: make some sense if that's what they end up doing here,

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Speaker 3: at least in the short term.

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Speaker 1: I think we're giving up so far this year one

740
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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty two yards a game on the ground.

741
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Speaker 1: I think the Eagles have a pretty good runner who's

742
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: been struggling, at least by the standards, the lofty standards

743
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Speaker 1: he had established. So the assumption I have to believe

744
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: is the Eagles are going to challenge the Vikings to

745
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: prove that they can, you know, handle the running game.

746
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Speaker 3: That would be very smart on their part and probably

747
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: a good idea and a good place to start, at

748
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: least in a road game against against the Vikings. And

749
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Speaker 3: I think that the Vikings are well aware of where

750
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 3: their deficiencies are, and Brian Florest seem to indicate they

751
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 3: spent a lot of time this week or during the

752
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: bye week kind of ripping that apart and looking at

753
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 3: everything they're doing. And I do think assuming we're on

754
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: track to see Blake Cashman on the field here quickly,

755
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: you know, after he was had his practice window open,

756
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 3: that that would help them from a tackling perspective and

757
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: also kind of getting everybody else in the positions that

758
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: they are best in. And so I think there's a

759
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: little bit of help there. But I definitely think the Eagles,

760
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: you know, it's an brainer for them to at least

761
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 3: test that out.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the nation the current National Football League standings.

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Speaker 1: In the NFC North, there is not a single team

764
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Speaker 1: below five hundred. The Packers are in first place technically

765
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 1: at three to one and one. That's a seven hundred

766
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Speaker 1: winning percentage. The Lions, after getting spanked in Kansas City

767
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: on National TV, have dropped to four and two. The

768
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: Vikings are three and two, and the Bears, who did

769
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: find a way to not screw it up last night,

770
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: also are sitting at three and two. So I think

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Speaker 1: I asked, was it Johnny? I asked somebody else this.

772
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Speaker 1: I don't think I asked you this recently. The current

773
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Speaker 1: state of the division from a standing standpoint, win loss

774
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: record standpoint, does it in any way feel different than

775
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: you felt about the division and these teams before the

776
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: season began. No.

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Speaker 3: I thought it would be competitive. I thought all the

778
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Speaker 3: teams would be I don't think there'd be any bad teams,

779
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 3: and I think we're finding we found that out to

780
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: be the case for sure. It's not like the a

781
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Speaker 3: S East where you have a Jets team that hasn't

782
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 3: won or something along the line, or the Dolphins who

783
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: seem to be crashing out. I mean, this is four

784
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: competitive teams, four teams that, if there were in other divisions,

785
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 3: would probably be, you know, just percentage wise likelier to

786
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 3: make the playoffs than they are in this division because

787
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 3: they can't all you know, I guess in theory they

788
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: in reality, they're all four not going to make the playoffs.

789
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 3: But in terms of whether there's one team that's going

790
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 3: to run away with it, you know, I thought initially

791
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: it looked like the Packers. I thought the Lions would

792
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 3: have some a harder time starting off with their new

793
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: coordinator situation. And they, you know, even though they did

794
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 3: lose to the Chiefs the other night, they've they've gotten

795
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: off to a pretty decent start. So I haven't. It

796
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 3: doesn't look like there's, at least right now, there's a

797
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: team good enough to run away with it. But it

798
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 3: also doesn't look like there's a doormat in it either.

799
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Speaker 3: So in the overall scheme of things of it being

800
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: a very competitive division, I think it's shaping.

801
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: Up to be what we thought is a three and

802
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 1: two record to five games good enough, given at least

803
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: on paper, what the rest of this schedule seems to offer.

804
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: In terms of the vikings, challenges the rest of the way.

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Speaker 3: I guess it depends on whether you're of the mind

806
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: set that some of these teams don't look as good

807
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: as once thought, or if you take a larger look

808
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: and say, well, how good are those teams compared to

809
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: the rest of the league. You know, our ESPN analytics

810
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: model has this the rest of the Vikings schedule as

811
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 3: the hardest in the league, the number one most difficult

812
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 3: record the rest of the way. It has them favored

813
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 3: to only win two of their remaining the twelve games. Ye,

814
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: and so that's about as hard as it gets. And

815
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: so whether you know, even if they were five and

816
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: zero at this time and facing a that difficult of

817
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: a schedule, it would be a tough one. So I

818
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: think the Vikings frankly have their work cutout for him.

819
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: It's way too early in the season to feel like

820
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: we know for sure who's the good teams and who's

821
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 3: the bad teams. But based on the information we have now,

822
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 3: they very much have their work cut out for them.

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Speaker 1: Did I also see one of the other nuggets you

824
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Speaker 1: had along with that one that the Vikings at least

825
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: as of now, are favored in only two of their

826
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Speaker 1: remaining twelve games.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's the that's the version of the esp analytics.

828
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: It's the Bears game. And this I looked at this

829
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 3: before last night. I don't know if last night really

830
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 3: changed anything. But they're favored to beat the Bears in

831
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: that game. That would be here in their favor to

832
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: beat the Giants in week sixteen. And that's it. And

833
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 3: again that's analytics, that's projections, that's limited information. It's not

834
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Speaker 3: saying it's against the rules for them to win more

835
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 3: of those games. But that's the way, at least one

836
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 3: model of seeing it.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, very interesting.

838
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: Well, good luck on on on today's game, the football

839
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: game you're about to attend, and we will I hope

840
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 1: chat even perhaps in studio as soon as next week.

841
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 3: That sounds good, Dan, thank you, thanks man.

842
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Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Kevin seaf ESPN dot com kind enough to join us

844
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Speaker 1: via the Connectico Water Systems hotline. Ben Lieber will join

845
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: in about forty five or so minutes. A little more

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Speaker 1: than that, Luigi will join for more tropical climbs at

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Speaker 1: five thirty as well. Keep the as I should I

848
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Speaker 1: should I mentioned earlier, keep the texts coming lots more

849
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Speaker 1: to get to I even I'll ask the audience if

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Speaker 1: they can help us out booking a guest who might

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Speaker 1: be just walking around downtown Minneapolis today.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a minute