1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Gouber thirty three, thirty three here twenty nonsup minutes of Michael. 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you lucky dogs, you you lucky dogs. 3 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 3: Man. I Dragon. 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: I saw the back and forth over the whole twenty 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: minute thing from on the text line from last week. 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 3: You remember that. Yeah, yeah, they. 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: I someone watches them working correctly, their stopwatches off or something. 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 4: Well arguably the hours themselves get flipped in that third 9 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 4: hour in the hour. Yeah, any way, so yeah, at 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 4: the beginning, where's mark twenty minutes, Well, it's coming up, yeah, yeah, yeah. 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but there is non stop at twenty minutes. We're 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: listening to Maria Bartiromo on Fox Fox News Channel interview 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: Daniel Yorgan, SMP Global Vice Chairman, and he's just giving 14 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: out a dose reality about everything is going on in 15 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: not just in the Middle East. This is not just 16 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: a Middle East issue, This is a worldwide energy issue. 17 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: The focus right now is a choke hold that is 18 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 2: beyond just the strait of her moons. Is the confluence 19 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: of the Strait of her moods along with the Church 20 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: of the climate activists, all the environmental wackos and everybody 21 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: keeps demigrating. You know, hydrocarbons as being something evil that 22 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: is destroying the planet. And if you go back to 23 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: the first hour of the program, we walk through everything 24 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: about how much we have spent and how that has 25 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: literally gotten us nowhere. But the cabal will never tell 26 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: you that. Here we're getting a straight dose of truth. 27 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: So what we're stumbling into next in this interview is, 28 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: I would say, here's the theme of it. The Iranians 29 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: are holding the world hostage, and there are two beneficiaries. 30 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 5: And a lot of oil executives have told me permitting 31 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 5: is so critical. That's why the President did executive orders 32 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 5: around permitting. But Congress needs to codify these things. There 33 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 5: are some rulemaking there in the big Beautiful Bill, but 34 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 5: I agree this is the main issue. 35 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 3: Let me get your take on the. 36 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 5: Strait of Hormuz and how significant this is and what 37 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 5: you're expecting from the Strait in terms of how long 38 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 5: it may stay shut down and what that means for oil. 39 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: And gas dan Well, certainly what it means is, as 40 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: I said, the biggest disruption and its effects are particularly 41 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: being felt right now in Asia. We're seeing it here 42 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: in gasoline prices. They're actually having real shortages, and I 43 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: think this was a theme that ran through the conference 44 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: in the sense of the risk that it's really going 45 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: to be up to the military operations. And there's a 46 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: second risk, which is that other strait that goes out 47 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: of the Red Seat called the bob El Mandeb, which 48 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: is some of the oil that was going through the 49 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: strait going through pipelines from the east coast of Saudi 50 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: Arabia to the west coast, And what the health he's there? 51 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: Who are the allies of the Iranians will do there? 52 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: So I think what I carried away is that if 53 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: it's a couple more weeks, this crisis is manageable. If 54 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: it goes longer, it really is a big hit to 55 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: the global economy, including here in the United States. 56 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: So it is, you know, a couple of weeks manageable. 57 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: Longer than that a big hit to the global economy. 58 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: Who is benefiting from the arrangement if it continues. Now, 59 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: what you think carefully, because it doesn't get discussed enough. 60 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: This is part of the bigger picture that the cabal 61 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: doesn't want you to think about. The largest beneficiaries if 62 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: this continues is China and Russia. Now, Jurgen points out 63 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: that there and we'll give you the details of this 64 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: in a second. But there are already shortages, shortages. The 65 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: Chinese Communist Party is run out of fuel. They don't 66 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: have the ability. They're telling people to stay home. You 67 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: can only work. Sounds like it almost sounds like COVID, 68 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: doesn't it. You got to stay home, you only work 69 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: two or three days a week. You can't do this, 70 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: you can't do that. China is the Iranian's largest oil customer, 71 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: and they've been buying Iranian oil at a discount in 72 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: defiance of our sanctions, and they have been paying for 73 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 2: it in one not in dollars. So every day that 74 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: the strait of her mouse remains closed, every day that 75 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: oil prices spike and the global economy strains, China is 76 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: insulated because it has already built a discounted, sanctions evading 77 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: supply chain. With day wrong. Russia benefits for the obvious 78 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: reason that higher global oil prices mean more revenue for 79 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: their war machine in Ukraine. So when the Iranians closed 80 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: the straight, it's not just waging or on the West. 81 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: It is executing a strategy that serves the strategic interests 82 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 2: of Beijing and Moscow simultaneously This is a three way axis, 83 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: and the stakes allowing it to continue indefinitely was an 84 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: existential threat to the global world order. It was an 85 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: existential threat to the United States of America, to South America, 86 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: to Europe, to India, and to Asia, setting aside Russia 87 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: and China our adversaries. That three way axis is inherent 88 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: to your understanding of the chess gain that Trump is 89 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: engaged in in this effort to finally fix a problem 90 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 2: that has existed since nineteen seventy nine and has has 91 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: made us weaker and our adversaries stronger. 92 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 3: Now listen to what. 93 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: Jurgen says about the secondary thread, the Hooties and the 94 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 2: other choke point. 95 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 5: Yes, of course, and the Wall Street Journal rights the 96 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 5: prospect of the hoo These involvement in this widening conflict 97 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 5: is an unnerving one for the oil market, given the 98 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 5: group's recent history of disrupting red sea shipping lanes, which 99 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 5: have since become a crucial alternative to the strait of 100 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 5: horror moves. 101 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 3: What can you. 102 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: Say about that Saudi pipeline because it did bypass the 103 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 5: horror moves, hitting seven million barrel. 104 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: Goal last week in Well, it was a very prudent 105 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: decision that the Saudis made when there is that Iran Iraq. 106 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: Ooh, building a pipeline was a prodent decision. 107 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: Or in the nineteen eighties they said, we cannot just 108 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: depend upon the Strait of Horror moves. 109 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: We have to also have an alternative, and. 110 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: They built that pipeline system that moves oil from the 111 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: east to the west. The United Arab Republic also the 112 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: United Arab Emirates also built a pipeline to go around 113 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: the Strait of Horror m is but parallel to it. 114 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: So there's some way to get some oil out and 115 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: it is being used right now. But if the Healthy 116 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: step up their attacks, if they join their allies and 117 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: really attacking shipping or scaring people away from the Red Sea, 118 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: that will only aggravate what is already the most severe 119 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: oil disruption that we've seen in history, although one whose 120 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: roots go back to nineteen seventy nine when the Iranian 121 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: sees the US embassy and started shouting death to America. 122 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, incredible, and that is why President Trump has focused 123 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 5: squarely on the Strait of Hormuz and we've got boots 124 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 5: on the ground. It's not just oil and gas, right Dan, 125 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 5: Because you also spoke with seals like Jim Fitterley of 126 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 5: Dow Chemical and he talked about the chemicals that are 127 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 5: also seeing spy tim pressing. 128 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: Is that right, Yeah, yes, it's true that some like 129 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: twenty percent of world petrochemicals. Another big thing that flows 130 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: out of there that people don't know about is. 131 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: Fertilizer. 132 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: And something else that people don't think about, like half 133 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: the world's supply almost of helium, which is used to 134 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: make semiconductors. So at the means are really doing is 135 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: waging war on the world economy. And secondly, they're trying 136 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: to turn the Strait of Horror Moves an international waterway 137 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: into an Iranian basically canal that they can control and 138 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: extract money from, which they're doing with some countries and 139 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: right now including Chinese shippers. 140 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: Let's stop right there now, Catalog. What Jurgen just told us. 141 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: What he told us is what's flowing through the Strait 142 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: of her Moons Oil. Yeah, we know oil twenty percent 143 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: of the world's supply, we keep hearing that all the time. 144 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: But also twenty percent of the world's petrol chemicals. That 145 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: means plastics, fertilizers, are fertilizers that feed the entire planet, 146 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: and then this one almost half of the world's helium supply. Now, 147 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: before you say, who cares about party balloons, helium is 148 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: not about party balloons. Helium is used to cool the 149 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: superconducting magnets in an MRI machine. 150 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: If you're going to get an MRI. 151 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: It is used on the manufacturing of semiconductors, the Michael 152 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: chips that run your stupid smartphone, your car, your military's 153 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: weapons systems, your AI data centers. Now, if you want 154 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 2: to understand why this matters to the technology race with China, 155 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: start there, Start right there, and you'regan notice something that should. 156 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: Stop you cold. 157 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: Iran is already charging Chinese shippers a told to pass 158 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: through the straight of hor moves. Think about that. The 159 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: Ranians have already turned an international waterway recognized as such 160 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 2: under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea 161 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: into what is being effectively an Iranian toll road. 162 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: It's the four to seventy. 163 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 2: Of the Middle East, and some countries are paying for 164 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: it because what choice do they have. Everything that I 165 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: just now Michael chips that run a phone, a car, 166 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 2: a weapon systems, data centers, all the helium, all of 167 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: the fertilizer, the petrol, chemicks, all of that. We need those, 168 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: but so does every other frequent country developed country in 169 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: the world. 170 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: So this is what. 171 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: An extortion economy looks like at a geopolitical level, and 172 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,359 Speaker 2: it would have continued and it would have expanded indefinitely 173 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: if somebody didn't break this. Now, listen to what Jurgen 174 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: says about who is not feeling this is the way 175 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 2: we might have been, and pay attention to why unbelievable? 176 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 5: What did you say about China and throughout Asia? Right 177 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 5: now there are shortages and there are new rules in 178 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 5: place for people to be using gas and oil. 179 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 6: Is that right? 180 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: Well? 181 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: Right? 182 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: I think in some countries are telling people only work 183 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: from home home two or three days a week. They're 184 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: actually starting to ration supplies, they're shifting back to coal 185 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: for electric generation. Because eighty percent of the oil that 186 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: went through the Strait of Horror moves went east to Asia, 187 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: ninety percent of the natural gas, and so that's where 188 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: you're feeling the physical shortages, which we're not feeling this 189 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: country because we had this incredible shale revolution that changed 190 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: us from being the world's biggest importer of oil to 191 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: the world's biggest producer of oil and natural gas. 192 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: Wow, now that's where the story turns. 193 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: Jurgen just told us that eighty percent of the oil 194 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: and ninety percent of the natural gas that flows through 195 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: the state of Hormones went east to Asia, and those 196 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: countries in Asia are now rationing that fuel. They're telling people, 197 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: as I said, to work from home. And on top 198 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: of that, they're switching back to coal, the most carbon 199 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: intensity fuel on the planet, and they're doing. 200 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: That just to keep the lights on. We are not 201 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: in that position. 202 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: But I want us to understand why we're not in 203 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: that position, because the reason isn't lucked and it's not 204 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: the benevolence of any government. It was the shale revolution. 205 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: Private American companies, using American ingenuity, using American capital, They 206 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: figured out how to use hydraulic facting and horizontal drilling 207 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 2: to unlock oil and gas from shale rock formations. Because 208 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: all the conventional wisdom said that could not be produced economically, 209 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: and we did it and the results were staggering, truly 210 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 2: staggering this country. Our country produced roughly five million barrels 211 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 2: of oil per day. 212 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 3: We were a massive. 213 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 2: Net importer, as he pointed out, then go to twenty 214 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: twenty four, we averaged over thirteen million barrels a day, 215 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: the most oil any countries ever produced in human history. 216 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 2: And we now produced roughly sixteen percent of total world output. 217 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 2: Deal what that is. That is more than Saudi Arabia 218 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: and Russia combined. We went from the world's biggest importer 219 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: to the world's biggest producer. 220 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: Now, I know there's an uncomfortable follow. 221 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: Up question, what would have happened if the congregants in 222 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: the Church of the Climate activists had gotten everything they wanted, 223 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 2: Because they certainly tried the Biden administration. On day one 224 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: of the Biden administration, they banned new oil and gas 225 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: leasing on federal lands, They paused liquid natural gas export approvals. 226 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: Then they systematically discouraged investment in fossil fuel infrastructure. The 227 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: stated goal they said very clearly. Remember when Biden that 228 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: famous video where Bidening's. 229 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: Over to that little girl. They're only. 230 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: Waterfront somewhere, and he leans over and he says kind 231 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 2: of points to her and says, I'm going to end 232 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: fossil fuels. There was a state of goal. Had that 233 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: trajectory continued and had Kamala Harris won, we would have 234 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: been in the same position as those Asian countries right now, dependent, vulnerable, 235 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: rationing fuel, trying to switch back to cole as quickly 236 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: as we can, while the Iranians laughed, Oh, you would 237 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: have gotten your four day work week, but you wouldn't 238 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: have gotten paid for a five day work week. You 239 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: might have gotten a three day work week, a four 240 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: day work week, because well, we just said other fuel 241 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: to do the work. We just couldn't keep the lights on. 242 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: The shale revolution is what gave us the strategic cushion 243 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: to weather this crisis. And I know it's costing us money. 244 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: It's costing all of us money, but we're trying to 245 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: fix a problem that the environmental lacks kept telling us 246 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: we can fix it this way. We were never going 247 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: to fix it that way. And the proof is in 248 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: those Asian countries where they're shutting down, where they're trying 249 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: to go back to coal, where they cannot keep their 250 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: economies running because they don't have the hydrocarbons to keep running. We, 251 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: being the world leader, stepped in and fixed that. The 252 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: people who spent the last decade trying to kill the 253 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: shale revolution, I think they actually owe us an apology. 254 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: Now let's go back to the interview. I would say 255 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: this is the renewable energy narrative collapse. 256 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 5: It's a great point, and our current Energy secretary is 257 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 5: obviously one of the key authors and creators of that show. 258 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: Revolution. 259 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 5: Look going into your conference before this all occurred, you 260 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 5: thought the big thing would have been the tech industry 261 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 5: right coming together and needing more demand for the AI 262 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 5: build out data centers. That's not how it played out. 263 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: Well, that's but that theme was still still there and 264 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: there is basically that for twenty five years, Maria, electricity 265 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: demand didn't. 266 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: Grow in the United States. 267 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: Now it's really growing strongly, and we see areas including 268 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: the Northeast United States, that are very tight in terms 269 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: of electricity supplies. So we need to add new capacity. 270 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: And that was a big theme because you know, it's 271 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: estimated as you know that about half of the US 272 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: economic growth last year came from investment in data centers, 273 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: and data centers need electricity. 274 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, for twenty five years, just revisit what he said. 275 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: For twenty five years, demand for electricity in this country 276 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: was essentially flat. And in that environment, Yeah, the Church 277 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: of the Climate activists could make an argument how or flawed. 278 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: It might be that, oh, hey, Wyndham solar can meet 279 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: our needs because the demand was flat, because our demands, 280 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: our needs weren't growing very fast. That argument is dead 281 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 2: in the water. Artificial intelligence is killing it. Data centers 282 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 2: are killing it. The electrification of everything that the climate 283 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: activists demanded evs, electric heating, electric everything is killing it. 284 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 2: And Jurgen just told you that roughly half of all 285 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: US economic growths just last year came from investment in 286 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: data centers. Those data centers run twenty four hours a day, 287 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: seven days a week, three hundred and sixty five days 288 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 2: a year. They cannot run on intermittent power. The wind 289 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: doesn't bow on command, the sun doesn't shine at two 290 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning when the servers are still processing. 291 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: You cannot run a data center on a prayer and 292 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 2: a solar panel. So the same greeny weenies, the same 293 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: climate activists, the same church of the climate activists that 294 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: wants us to ban natural gas and colon nuclear is 295 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: now confronting the reality that an artificially an artificial intelligence economy. 296 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 2: If they celebrate the chat GPT, the autonomous vehicles, the 297 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 2: miracle technologies, and medicine science everywhere that requires what more reliable, dense, 298 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: cheap energy then the grid can currently deliver. The northeast 299 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: of the United States, Jurgen said, is very tight on 300 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: electricity supplies. Well, that's what happens when you shut down 301 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: reliable base load power in pursuit of an ideology. So 302 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: you can have the green energy transition, or you can 303 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: have a growing economy at the current state of the technology. 304 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: You can't have both. You gotta pick one. 305 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 4: Alexa. 306 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 7: Speaking of passive aggressive tendencies, Michael, how can you be 307 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 7: worldwide if you don't even have your dang world map 308 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 7: yet where you can put the pins in it so 309 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 7: you can prove that you are truly worldwide. You're welcome. 310 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, as soon as I get around to it, a 311 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: round to it. Have you ever seen a round to it? 312 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 2: Just shake your head. I don't care, just shake your head. 313 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: We can have an energy transition, or we can have 314 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: a growing economy, but we can't have growing technology, growing population, 315 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: growing food demands, increase in technology, whether it be in 316 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: medicine or any other science. We can have all of that, 317 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: or we can have the current state. Pick one. I 318 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: almost to have a growing economy. I almost to have 319 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 2: advances in technology. I want all of this. I want 320 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: us to be the world superpower. I want the world 321 00:19:55,080 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: to look to us with our ostensibly mostly free markets, 322 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: our mostly republican small r form of government, our so 323 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: called democracy. I want all of that. I don't want 324 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: the authoritarianism, which I mean. I'm thankful that we have 325 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 2: the No Kings marches because they've done very well to 326 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: keep kings out of this country. So you keep those 327 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: No Kings marches going, which we'll get to in the 328 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: next hour. 329 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 3: Very good for them. 330 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 2: But we have in this country an example of the 331 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: choice that can be made. And if you make the 332 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: choice to go down the route and join all of 333 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 2: the useful idiots and the church of the climate activists, 334 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 2: you have a great example of what that would look like. Now, 335 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: the primary example you'll hear about. But as you hear 336 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: about that, and you live in Colorado, or you live 337 00:20:55,320 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 2: in Illinois or New York, of Washington or Oregon, I 338 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 2: want you to think about how those states are following 339 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: in lockstep right behind this example. 340 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, Dan, Real quick, before you go, what's your 341 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 5: take on the state of California. You told me when 342 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 5: we spoke on the phone over the weekend. This is 343 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 5: one of the critical parts of this story. 344 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, California is actually because of its policies of 345 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: shutting down refineries, it's cut its own domestic oil production 346 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: by two thirds since over the last two and a 347 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: half decades. It imports about seventy percent of its oil 348 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: from other countries, and a lot of that oil comes 349 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: from the Middle East that gets refined in Asia and 350 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: turns into gasoline into California. So California is the part 351 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: of the country that is most vulnerable directly physically to 352 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: the disruption that is now swept part of the world, 353 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: particularly in Asia. 354 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 4: Unbelievable. 355 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 5: You know, Mike Worth had some important things to say 356 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 5: to you, Dan and I want to continue this conversation. 357 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 5: We so appreciate you joining me this morning. SMP Global 358 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 5: Vice Trman Daniel Jurgen. We will continue the conversation tomorrow 359 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 5: morning on the markets the economy. 360 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: When you join me in part. 361 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 3: That's good and there it is. 362 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: You got it. 363 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 3: California. California would be. 364 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: Described as the crown jewel of progressive climate policy. It's 365 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: like the Giant, It's like the Vatican of the Church 366 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: of the climate activists. That state has been lecturing the 367 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 2: rest of US about fossil fuels for thirty years now, 368 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: and they have shut down refineries. They've cut back domestic 369 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 2: oil production by two thirds over the last twenty five 370 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: years or so, and now they have to import seventy 371 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: percent of their oil from other countries, and most of 372 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: that gets refined in Asia from Middle Eastern crude because 373 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: they don't have a refining capacity in California to do it. 374 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: And do I even dare mention all of the defense 375 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 2: industries and defense facilities that we have along the West coast, 376 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: When do we make this concrete? As of mid twenty 377 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: twenty five, I know today's even worse. I'm just gonna 378 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: go to mid twenty twenty five, the average price of 379 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: a gallon of gas in California was hovering around four 380 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: dollars and eighty five cents. That was compared to a 381 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 2: national average of three dollars twenty six a gallon, But 382 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: California's taxes and the regulatory burden costs alone adds more 383 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: than a dollar and thirty cents per gallon above the 384 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 2: national baseline. Californians paid an extra ninety cents per gallon 385 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: in taxes and in another fifty four cents per gallon 386 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: in environmental compliance costs. A USC professor has projected that 387 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 2: without any parts he changes, cal Filifornia's fuel prices could 388 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 2: spike as high as eight dollars per gallon within the 389 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: coming year, and that will be driven by refinery closures 390 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: capacity reductions caused by the very regulations designed to protect 391 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 2: the environment. After I finished Saturday's program, because I know 392 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: my producer in Sherman Oaks, just north of Los Angeles, 393 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 2: that there is an excellent station right near the Premiere 394 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: Radio Network studios, I said, Michael, be sure to take 395 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 2: a picture. Give me the current price eight eighty six 396 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 2: a gallon. So the prediction that it would spike as 397 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: high as eight dollars a gallon after those mid twenty 398 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: twenty five numbers I gave you, Yeah, it's true. Meanwhile, 399 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: Texas Texas drivers are paying about two seventy six a gallon. 400 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 3: It's the regular toy choices that. 401 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 2: California made, shutting refineries, killing domestic production, mandating boutique fuel blends, 402 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 2: piling on cap and trade costs. That's left the most 403 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: populous state in this country uniquely exposed to a Middle 404 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 2: Eastern crisis in frank Frankly, it could have insulated itself 405 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: from that crisis. So there's Gavin Newsom flying around the 406 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: world to climate conferences telling everybody that California is leading 407 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: the way, leading the way to what, leading the way 408 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: to what exactly to that eighty six a gallon gas 409 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: to rationing, to be actually becoming more dependent on raining 410 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: and adjacent oil than you were even thirty years ago. 411 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 3: Now, let's remember something. 412 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: Daniel Jergan has no political acts to grind, and he 413 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: just told you on national television. The California is the 414 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: part of the country most vulnerable directly physically to this 415 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: disruption going on. Not West Texas, not Oklahoma, not California, 416 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: the green energy promised land of the Church of the 417 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: climate activists. Now that's the verdict of the marketplace, and 418 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: that's the verdict of geopolitics. And that is exactly why 419 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 2: Donald Trump has been relentless in his focus on energy dominance. Oh, 420 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: you can claim that it's a political slogan, but I 421 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: would argue that as a matter of national security, economic survival, 422 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 2: strategic leverage, it's probably exactly the right thing that we need. 423 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 3: And do we have the. 424 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: Ability the resilience the patients to go through it, or 425 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: are we going to be so short sighted, so blinded 426 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: by our own pocket books? And I don't listen. I'm 427 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: not It's not any easier on me. It is easier 428 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 2: on you. But somebody, after support for decades, finally stepped 429 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: up to the plate and said, yeah, I'm not gonna 430 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: do this anymore. The Uranians thought they had the entire world, 431 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: including their own allies, Communists, China and Russia. They thought 432 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: they had all of us in a chokehold. So Trump 433 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 2: called her bluff. And now, for the first time in 434 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 2: forty six years, we had energy independence to back it up. 435 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: And so that was the time and is the time 436 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 3: to make the move. 437 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: I just want you to know that every stat that 438 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: I cited was sourced from the Triple A, the EIA, 439 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: the University of Southern California MISHI study, the eight dollar 440 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 2: gallon projection that was originally a high scenario, pessimistic forecast, 441 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: but now I've got a real world photograph of that. 442 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: It's worth noting that if the current trends continue, that's 443 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 2: where we're headed. And the helium semiconductor connection in the 444 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: petrochemicals percentage comes directly from Jurgen's own statement and his 445 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 2: own information provided at the conference. 446 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: Do with this what you will, Michael. 447 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 8: If a man can transition into being an imaginary woman, 448 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 8: then I believe that we can transition from a fossil 449 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 8: fuel based energy economy into being an imaginary energy economy. 450 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 8: And my pronouns are sheet and. 451 00:28:55,080 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: It very good, very very FCZ compliant. Speaking of transitioning, 452 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure. I can't figure out the Know 453 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: Kings protests. They very well funded, very well organized. They 454 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: were marching all through New York with the hammer and 455 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: snickle flag the Communist Party of the Old Soviet Union. 456 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: They're marching around with that with me? 457 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: Now? 458 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 9: Is Wall Street Channel editorial board member Alicia Finley all right? 459 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 3: Open ended question. 460 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 9: Have the socialist seized control of the No Kings rallies? 461 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: Well, I think that's what it looks like. 462 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 6: I think the question the bigger question is where is 463 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 6: all this money coming from to fund these protests. And 464 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 6: it's not just these No Kings protests. It was also 465 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 6: the anti ice riots last summer, the anti Israel rights 466 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 6: on college campuses, and we have some evidence that's the 467 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 6: same groups that are funding all these and there may 468 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 6: be some connection to overseas, and we do know that 469 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 6: obviously the Chinese Communist Party has an incentive and are 470 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 6: trying to sew division in the US and trying to 471 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 6: produce the propagandas and suggest that you know, there's this 472 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 6: opposition movement, this grassroots opposition movement to Donald Trump, is 473 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 6: much bigger than it actually is. 474 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 9: Well, is it legitimate, if it's correct, if it's proven 475 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 9: that millions of dollars are flowing into America to organize 476 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 9: these protests and disrupt our society, is that legal? 477 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: Is there anything we can do about it? Well? 478 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 6: I think the question is is their money laundering going on? 479 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 6: And that is clearly illegal, and I think that THEVII 480 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 6: I do not notice for a pack, but I would 481 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 6: hope that they are now investigating whether there's money laundering 482 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 6: going on, whether it be with cryptocurtcy or by other means, 483 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 6: but that would be criminal. Whether you would actually deal 484 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 6: to indict someone who extradite them from China, that's another question. 485 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 9: They seem to get a lot of people involved though, 486 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 9: I mean the organizing, their climates. Eight million people turned 487 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 9: out for these these rallies over the weekend that's a 488 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 9: lot of people. 489 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 6: Right, and I think a lot of them would be 490 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 6: ordinary people, useful idiots. So they do not know what 491 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 6: they're actually going out there protesting, that they're getting used 492 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 6: as tools here. A lot of this is being advertised 493 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 6: on your social media Instagram, TikTok, and they think they're 494 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 6: just going out there protesting Donald Trump. 495 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 3: They don't realize who's actually, you know, controlling the purse 496 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: screens on this. 497 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: They don't actually know what I actually don't know what 498 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: to know Kings Protest is about. But as somebody say 499 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: on the text line, they've been very successful because they 500 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: don't have any games, no Kings in Denver. So let's 501 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,239 Speaker 2: talk about what actually happened Saturday. So you had two 502 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: hundred plus organizations, tens of millions of dollars in documented funding, 503 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: pre pinted signs, packed into cars, shipped before you knew 504 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 2: what you were supposed to be angry about. That's not 505 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: a spontanious uprising. That's a very well tuned logistical operation. 506 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: And this weekend it came to Denver. You saw the 507 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: crowd at the Capitol steps, you saw the slogans, you 508 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: felt the energy organizers told you thirty thousand people showed up, 509 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 2: and for most of the morning it looked exactly like 510 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: what they wanted to look like, Americans just exercising their rights. 511 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: But then let's look at what happened that when Anthon 512 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: wall Z, a group of protesters walked the road, the 513 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: POPO issued multiple dispersal orders. 514 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: They got ignored. 515 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: The Denver police declared an unlawful assembly, and so they 516 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: deployed smoke canisters. Somebody in that crowd picked up a 517 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: smoke canister and threw it back at the cops. Pepper 518 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: balls then followed that. Nine people got arrested, including one 519 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: on charges of throwing objects at the cops and others 520 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: facing charges of oh, just second degree assault, destruction of 521 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: public property, and carrying an unlawful weapon. Oh, somebody was 522 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 2: carrying an unlawful weapon and downtown Denver. 523 00:32:59,080 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 3: I am shocked. 524 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I thought we had a shooting on 525 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: seventeenth Street over the weekend. Yes, second degree assault on 526 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 2: a cop at a rally about at a rally about tyranny. 527 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 3: And of course we weren't alone. 528 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: Los Angeles DHS agents had cement blocks thrown with them 529 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: outside of Federal Detention Center two cops required medical care. 530 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 2: At least two protesters have now been charged with felony 531 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: assault on federal law enforcement in Portland. Of course, of course, Portland, 532 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: you've got mass agitators attacking federal agents outside in ICE facility, 533 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: were they spray painted with the word Nazis. So people 534 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: back the people backed by the Marxist and the socialists 535 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: and the communists are spray painting I guess their name 536 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 2: on the side of Ice Nazis. But I want to 537 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 2: talk about who organized all of this? Yeah, who organized 538 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: all of this