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Speaker 1: In Kentucky, lawmakers are working on a bill there that

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Speaker 1: It's a good to turn on that From Newport Is,

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Speaker 1: Kentucky Representative Matt Lehman, Democratic, Campbell County, Matt, welcome. How

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Speaker 1: are you. I'm doing fine. I think we have the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to get forty late next week. It's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so now it's you're right, and and actually the

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Speaker 2: And the landlord doesn't always have the tools, uh to

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Speaker 1: We saw cam Taylor britt right, do you know what

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Speaker 2: You can't have it, Yeah, agreed. And I and I

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Speaker 1: So has this done anything to stop it in Louisville

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Speaker 1: Well, we know that you know, you know, murder is

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Speaker 1: I got you. And so the is it is it

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Speaker 2: Well, like I said, it's getting almost more professional. The

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Speaker 1: He is Kentucky. Ret Matt Lehman out of a Newport,

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Speaker 1: if you're engaged in drag racing or takeover, first penalty

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Speaker 1: that is the eye catching part. They seize your property,

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Speaker 1: find you, maybe jael you, but also they're going to

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Speaker 1: Matt with And that's a pretty severe penalty. The concerns

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you bring up Look, the civil

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it's a big problem in Louisville, probably Lexington,

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Speaker 1: a Newport Matt, thanks again for the time. Man, It's

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Speaker 1: And if you think that this is good law or

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Speaker 1: wrong things, you know, you want to enforce the laws

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Speaker 1: in that regard. But I think that could be done locally.

431
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Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure. You know, it's like the folks

432
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Speaker 1: that are fighting in Minnesota right now, protesting. It's like,

433
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Speaker 1: you know, not all the people that they're rounding up

434
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Speaker 1: are good people. You know, you may be well putting

435
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Speaker 1: your life on the line or screaming and protesting to

436
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Speaker 1: protect someone who's getting hauled off, who certainly deserves it,

437
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Speaker 1: who's not only here illegally but also is involved in

438
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Speaker 1: a felony. Why would you why would you want that

439
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Speaker 1: person living in your neighborhood. It doesn't make any sense.

440
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Speaker 1: But the way this whole thing has been handled, it

441
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Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense at all. And the opposite side

442
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Speaker 1: is true as well. Now we are conflating because again

443
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Speaker 1: we have to be loyal to a person or a

444
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Speaker 1: party as opposed to the constitution. What's happening is the

445
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: same thing with ICE is like, well, wait, hold on,

446
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Speaker 1: just a second, ICE and temporary protective status, that those

447
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: are two different things. You know, someone's here legally and

448
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Speaker 1: the breaking the law. Now most people would say, well,

449
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 1: just by being here legally, you're breaking the law, And sure,

450
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Speaker 1: I suppose you are, and we deserve to know who

451
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Speaker 1: is on this side of our border, otherwise we're not

452
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Speaker 1: a sovereign nation, right. I think you can do this,

453
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Speaker 1: probably a little bit more surgical as opposed to a

454
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Speaker 1: catch all. But that is the chaos that has taken

455
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Speaker 1: root in America today, for sure. I think when it

456
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Speaker 1: comes though to those going, well, ICE is in Minnesota,

457
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Speaker 1: so we want to do the same thing in Springfield,

458
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Speaker 1: It's an entirely different situation, all right. So temporary protected

459
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Speaker 1: status that is something that our government. Now maybe it

460
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Speaker 1: certainly was under a different administration. And you can end

461
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Speaker 1: this because it is temporary, But why are we into

462
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Speaker 1: get right now? And I bring it up because if

463
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Speaker 1: the conditions in Haiti and they're still in a state

464
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Speaker 1: of emergency by the way, I think since twenty twenty

465
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Speaker 1: four they went in a state of emergency and the

466
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Speaker 1: State Department is still warning Americans not to visit Haiti

467
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Speaker 1: because of kidnapping, crime, terrorism, civil unrestings like that. Gangs

468
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Speaker 1: still control about eighty percent of the capital city of

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Speaker 1: Porta Prince, and they've killed more than well thirty five

470
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Speaker 1: hundred people in the first in about six every six months.

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Speaker 1: Haiti has not had a president since the assassination of

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Speaker 1: the president in July twenty twenty one. Last time they

473
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Speaker 1: had elections was ten years ago. So going hey, you

474
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Speaker 1: know what, it's temporary, everything's okay, you need to go back.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't look that doesn't pass a sniff test, and

476
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Speaker 1: so what does that say about us. Comparing this and

477
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Speaker 1: equating this to what ICE is doing across the country

478
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Speaker 1: is silly because it's not the same thing. These are

479
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Speaker 1: people who were invited here and brought here by our

480
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Speaker 1: government and did so in places like Springfield that was

481
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Speaker 1: a dying community, and now I don't know if it's thriving.

482
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Speaker 1: I've been in Springfield a while, but it's certainly a

483
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Speaker 1: lot better off with the immigrants there. And I bring

484
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Speaker 1: this up because my bottom line is the bottom line.

485
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Speaker 1: It's about money, it's about capitalism, it's about enriching our

486
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Speaker 1: tax space and having people in the country that want

487
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Speaker 1: to do stuff and be productive, regardless of where they

488
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Speaker 1: come from. If you came here legally, it's a different story.

489
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Speaker 1: But these people were brought here legally by the United

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Speaker 1: States government. And so all right, let's wave the magic

491
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Speaker 1: wand and get rid of some ten to fifteen thousand people.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're can get roll of them.

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Speaker 1: It could just be a few hundred at this point. Again, again,

494
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Speaker 1: there is just so much extreme extremes and exaggeration that

495
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Speaker 1: it tends to drown out what the facts are. And

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Speaker 1: I tend to look at the facts. So if you

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Speaker 1: look at TPS whole an employment rate, this is nationally.

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Speaker 1: I don't have the Ohio data in front of me,

499
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Speaker 1: but the rate of those people who come this country

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Speaker 1: under temporary protective status, their employment rate is ninety five percent.

501
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Speaker 1: Ninety five percent. The other five percent maybe I don't know,

502
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Speaker 1: stay at home parent could be someone who winds up

503
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Speaker 1: becoming disabled. But ninety five percent employment in that community

504
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Speaker 1: is astounding, which goes to show you what they are

505
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Speaker 1: here to work and do jobs that the rest of

506
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Speaker 1: us really think are beneath us. So for those that think, hey,

507
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Speaker 1: we know, we got to throw them all out because

508
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Speaker 1: they're eating dogs and cats, which is absolutely that's insane.

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Speaker 1: What's going to happen to Let's say the building trades

510
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Speaker 1: construction because a lot of the folks who come here

511
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Speaker 1: from those countries. In this case we're talking about Haiti.

512
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Speaker 1: Our men are in the construction field. We're talking industries

513
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Speaker 1: like you know, building in grounds, clear landscaping. Landscaping is

514
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Speaker 1: a really hard job. They're in the transportation that some

515
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Speaker 1: truck drivers, manufacturing retail. Food service is a big one.

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Speaker 1: Healthcare is a big one. There are thirteen thousand of

517
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Speaker 1: them are nursing assistants, eight thousand caregivers. There is are

518
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Speaker 1: Haitians alone who are taking care of our parents who

519
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Speaker 1: are in assisted living or something on a situation like that.

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Speaker 1: Agriculture of course another big one as well. Some fifteen

521
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Speaker 1: thousand Haitians are in agriculture. These are jobs typically that

522
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Speaker 1: we look at going, yeah, swinging a hammer, I don't know,

523
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Speaker 1: working out in these elements, driving a truck. You know,

524
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Speaker 1: they're in truck drivings, a noble ocuams, So they are

525
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Speaker 1: all noble occupations. Healthcare is certainly a noble occupation, which

526
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Speaker 1: we need more of those bodies. So what happens if

527
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Speaker 1: we do this and now we're seeing the effects of this,

528
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Speaker 1: the chilling effect that it has is all these Haitians

529
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Speaker 1: are winding out, leaving, going somewhere else because they affer

530
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Speaker 1: they're afraid they're going to get swept up, because they're

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Speaker 1: conflating with what Ice is doing. And that may or

532
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Speaker 1: may not be true. But again, if you're like, hey,

533
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: and these people bought houses, I mean, the real estate

534
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: market there turned around that I know about, Springfield's doing great.

535
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Speaker 1: And because Haitians came in and starting to manufacturing, came

536
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Speaker 1: in and created seven thousand jobs. Because say, hey, we've

537
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Speaker 1: got a steady base of people here who want to

538
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Speaker 1: show up to work, who are passing drug screening tests.

539
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Speaker 1: That's what we need to build stuff to get stuff done,

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Speaker 1: and we're doing it in Springfield, and now we want

541
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Speaker 1: to turn that off. The question would be why, Well,

542
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Speaker 1: because temporary okay, but why are we ending this now?

543
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Speaker 1: The situation in Haiti is still as bad as it

544
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Speaker 1: ever was. And this is not from me, This is

545
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Speaker 1: from the Department of State. Now DHS is saying, well,

546
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: conditions are proved enough, safe return. But you talk to us,

547
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: it's like, well, they're still an emergency under State of Emergencies.

548
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Speaker 1: Still don't have a president in the last ten years.

549
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: The capital is completely run by gangs. Doesn't tull like

550
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Speaker 1: an area you should go to, But they're telling Americans

551
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Speaker 1: not to go there. Why are we evoking temporary protected status?

552
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: You know, that's all driven by elections. It's driven by

553
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: you know, getting out your core voters if you're Trump.

554
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: But I wonder too, in this climate and with the

555
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: midterm elections coming up, that's a smart thing to do

556
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Speaker 1: in Ohio. If you know the election is going to

557
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: be decided by razor thin margins, it's it's not a

558
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: good look. You know, go ice doing what they do

559
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: and finding bad people and rounding them up. That's what

560
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Speaker 1: President Trump was elected to do. No, no question about it.

561
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Speaker 1: Could you do it a little bit more gently and

562
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Speaker 1: persuasively and surgically, absolutely, But that that is not in

563
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Speaker 1: the nature of these guys. They tend to do things

564
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: and make a big deal, you know, tends to be

565
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 1: more well, maybe more shows sometimes in actual execution, we

566
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: just throw stuff out there and see what sticks. But yeah,

567
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Speaker 1: I get it, you know, not not all the people

568
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: were protests. There's people they're protesting and do you know

569
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Speaker 1: who you're fighting for? I guess it'd be the question

570
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: that particular individual, what's their story? Well they seem like

571
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: a nice guy, yeah, but wanted unfallily charges, you want

572
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: them living in your neighborhood. But we're gonna fight for

573
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: him anyway because it's us v them And that is

574
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: the blindness instead of just looking at it going the

575
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: problem is really government. We give them too much control.

576
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Speaker 1: This is what happens, and when they do things like

577
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Speaker 1: this and we don't call them out in their bs

578
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: even if we did vote for them, then what's going

579
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: to happen when the tide turns and the opposition gets

580
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Speaker 1: into power. So you want all this stuff change, and

581
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: you're a Democrat and a Republican gets in and we're

582
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: gonna go okay, well, that's just going to give them

583
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Speaker 1: more ammunition. I bring up the thing that Matt Lemon

584
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Speaker 1: was just talking about, and that is civil asset forfeiture. Okay,

585
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: it's bipartisan. He's a Democrat, Republicans are as well. But

586
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Speaker 1: what scares me about that is giving the government up

587
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Speaker 1: power and going, hey, second time we catch you speeding,

588
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Speaker 1: we're gonna seize your car and crush it. Wait what Okay, Well,

589
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: we know that the roads are dangerous out there, more

590
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: congestined than ever before, and we've got idiots out there

591
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Speaker 1: like Cam Taylor Britt. That's a great advertisement for what

592
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Speaker 1: it does they want to do. I get that, But

593
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Speaker 1: what scares me is as budgets get thinner and thinner

594
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Speaker 1: and thinner, aren't thinking to use those laws to maybe

595
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Speaker 1: stretch a little bit and go, well, yeah, maybe I

596
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Speaker 1: we think you were speaking, we think you were drag racing. Well,

597
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Speaker 1: what makes you think that? Why you're driving fast?

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Speaker 4: Well?

599
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Speaker 1: What is that?

600
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Speaker 4: What?

601
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Speaker 1: And it's not codified in this bill? Hall, what is

602
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Speaker 1: that I'm doing fifty and a forty five? Is it

603
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Speaker 1: eighty and a forty five? Is it double this with

604
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Speaker 1: there's no it's kind of just up to us. That

605
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Speaker 1: I don't like because then it opens the system up

606
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Speaker 1: for abuse. And if you encourage the stuff and turn

607
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Speaker 1: a blind eye because it's the person who supported and

608
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Speaker 1: voted for when the tides turn, it's they're not gonna go, well,

609
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Speaker 1: we got to go back the way it was. No,

610
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Speaker 1: they don't. They simply give government power. They don't give

611
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Speaker 1: that away. The next party in power simply goes, we're

612
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Speaker 1: gonna use it even We're gonna use it to the

613
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Speaker 1: same level, if not more, And then people get tired

614
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Speaker 1: of that and swing the next party and as it goes.

615
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Speaker 1: But againually it's the continual erosion, like boiling of You

616
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Speaker 1: know how you cook a frog. As you turn the

617
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Speaker 1: heat up slowly, you don't throw it in boiling a

618
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Speaker 1: wat it'll hop out, But if you turned it out slowly,

619
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Speaker 1: the frog stays in and dies because the water's odd

620
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Speaker 1: enough to kill it. And I think it's the same

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Speaker 1: thing here as a matter of fact, anyway, So that's

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Speaker 1: on pause right now. We'll see what happens later in

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Speaker 1: the show. I want to get into the Savannah Guthrie thing.

624
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Speaker 1: I guess it's Nanty Guthrie. And now, of course anything

625
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Speaker 1: and everything is tied to Cincinnati. Every time we have

626
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Speaker 1: a huge story, there's some connection, weird connection to Cincinnati.

627
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Speaker 1: And we learned that Nancy Guthrie, the eighty fourth of

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Speaker 1: the mother of Savannahuthrie, I from MDC News, as they noted,

629
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Speaker 1: d in academy graduate so as roots here in the

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Speaker 1: Tri State, which makes the story have a bitle of

631
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Speaker 1: a local feel to it, if you will. But it

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Speaker 1: is certainly bizarre. We'll get into that after eleven o'clock

633
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Speaker 1: this morning on the Scotslan Show on seven hundred Wow.

634
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Speaker 1: Here's the story that I did not get a chance

635
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Speaker 1: to talk about the other day. And it's fascinating me

636
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: because you tend to focus on the wrong thing. So

637
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Speaker 1: we had a I got a space where I think

638
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Speaker 1: a couple college students that you see broke in the

639
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: fifth third and arena and tried to steal some alcohol.

640
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Speaker 1: Makes sense, college students, and then you have a dude

641
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Speaker 1: breaking into pay course stadium attempting to steal merchandise and

642
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Speaker 1: food forty two to Antonio. Churchill arrested Sunday after he

643
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: was caught on security camera breaking in the pay corps.

644
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: He forcefully opened the door into the stadium and walked

645
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: through the stadium until he was stopped by officers, responding,

646
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: he's charged with breaking an entry. It's like, Wow, the

647
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: guy's in the pay corps in February stealing stuff, and yeah,

648
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: it's going to be in jail. He's he's locked up

649
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: right now. As a matter of fact, I think the

650
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: bigger question to me would be he was stealing merchandise. Okay,

651
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: there's a merchant and food. The Bengals season ended in

652
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 1: December and they're not going to open things back up

653
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: in the stadium till August. Is the real crime this

654
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: guy breaking in? Or is the real crime? Wait a minute,

655
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: there's food sitting. If you're holding on to food for

656
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: five six months, what are you gonna do with that?

657
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: Are you gonna I need to know what kind of

658
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: food this is now. I know that there's events that

659
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: they host, different things there, maybe in some of the sweets,

660
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: and you know there's players that show. I don't know

661
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: how many are there this time of year, but you

662
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: know they have food in the But from what I understand,

663
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: this is like happened in the stadium area, not where

664
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: the Bengal's offices training facilities are not conn be wrong

665
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: about that. It's kind of a hard It's just a

666
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: weird story. It's something wait, hold out, is the real

667
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: this guy breaking here of the fact that these guys

668
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: are holding on the on the hot dogs from last season?

669
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: Is that?

670
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: Please tell me it's like not hot dogs. We need

671
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: I think as a because maybe the person who reseat,

672
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: like Alisia Reese or somebody like that, and find out

673
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: this needs a deep die. I need to know what

674
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: kind of food and where the food was and what

675
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: it was for, because I don't know if I want

676
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: those nachos, certainly not getting the sushi to put it

677
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: that way. News on the way in about five minutes,

678
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: the other things to keep me up at night. How

679
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: about you coming up next to the show. I'm seven

680
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: hundred WLW. You may have heard this story. Ohio Representative

681
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: Adam Byrd from right here in Middletown is wanting a

682
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: ban on this name, image and likeness thing for high

683
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: school students. And this is quickly coming to a head

684
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: in Columbus and it begs a whole bunch of quat question,

685
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: is okay? Well, how prevalent by the way are these

686
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: high school deals and do we need to ban it?

687
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: How many people are being affected by this whole thing?

688
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: And I also contend speaking of the Constitution, now it's

689
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: your name, image and likeness. If you can make money

690
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: off it, it's America. You should be able to do that,

691
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: regardless of what the state of allegedly amateur athletics is.

692
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: We'll getting to Adam Bird's head about that coming up,

693
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: and just minutes here, quick time out. More to follow

694
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: on the Home of the Red seven hundred WT. Since

695
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: now here we go it Scott's flowing back on seven

696
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: hundred W all that, but just how much you get

697
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: through this, sour Julie Balki. A little bit later on

698
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: our curs Shirpo will get into the Nancy Guthrie abduction

699
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: and thoughts on that coming up first, though, Ohio high

700
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: school athletes were allowed to accept nil deal since November.

701
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: That's when the Ohio High School Athletic Association responded to

702
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: a lawsuit from a jamiir Bron who is an OSU

703
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 1: commit and they saw the writing on the wall one

704
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't think we can win this, and so we'll

705
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: give in and we'll allow name, image, and likeness deals

706
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: as we do in college. For high school students. We

707
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: had a new bill out that would ban anil deals

708
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: less than a year before they started. One of the

709
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: people who are co sponsoring this is our buddy representative

710
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: Adam bird the Birdman out of New Richmond and Claremont County.

711
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Speaker 3: How are you, hey, Scott. It's great to be with

712
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 3: you and looking forward to seeing what we can do

713
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: to protect our students in Ohio from what is happening

714
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: in college.

715
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw what's unravelly college and some may say, well,

716
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: you know, let's go back to the way it used

717
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: to be. I don't think you could put the two

718
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: space back in the tube, but it comes a little

719
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: bit different in reality. How many kids in high school

720
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: high schools is this going to impact? Really, it's not

721
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: that many, is it, And therefore, if that's true, why

722
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: don't we need to roll this back?

723
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way to know how many this effects because,

724
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 3: as you mentioned just a second ago, it's only been

725
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 3: in effect for a couple of months, and so I

726
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 3: do believe that this is going to unravel, and I

727
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: don't think that we can allow the stand for the

728
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: for the benefit and protection of our young people.

729
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so what is it you're trying to protect them

730
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: from exactly explain?

731
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 3: Well, that's yes, and so you know, I believe that

732
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 3: athletics and high school are an extension of the classroom.

733
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 3: They're co curricular activity that is responsible for helping to

734
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: teach students about character and discipline and work ethic and

735
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: communication skills and all of those things, and fitness. And

736
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: so that's the reason why we provide these opportunities for

737
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: our young people. It's not about how much money that

738
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 3: they can make, and that that kind of situation will

739
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: destroy amateur athletics and the good things that we've got

740
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Speaker 3: going on in high school.

741
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: Right now, I'll push back on that, goough, both of

742
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: those can exist at the same time, can't that. I mean,

743
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: we can put an emphasis on the classroom and character

744
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: and discipline, and probably even more so if money is involved.

745
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: And it's not gonna be a lot of money for

746
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: most of these kids. It's gonna be a little bit

747
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 1: of money save maybe a couple athletes along the lines

748
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: that are so good at what they do and are

749
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: so coveted by colleges and professionals sports teams that they're

750
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: going to get some money throwing them, no doubt about.

751
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: But the bulk of kids just simply are looking for

752
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: something to do extracurricularly. This wouldn't affect them at all.

753
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: But for those few that would re benefit from the

754
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: NIL deal, how does this go against what you mentioned

755
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: in the learning And it doesn't to me, It doesn't

756
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: change it at them.

757
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: Well, you know, if you're going to have certain kids

758
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 3: on the team that are benefiting and others that are not,

759
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: you're going to degrade the team work like atmosphere that

760
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: exists in amateur sports that have a team approach, like football,

761
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: like basketball. And it's important that we protect what we've

762
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: got right now. And then the other thing that I

763
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: would say, Scott, is this will turn into a recruiting situation,

764
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 3: a recruiting war where let's say a wealthy alumni of

765
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 3: a certain school that has a business wants to sign

766
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: a student to an NIL deal and on the on

767
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 3: the presumption that you will transfer to the school of

768
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: my choosing, and and so that's going to happen.

769
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 2: It's it's it's.

770
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 3: Virtually unavoidable at this point. And so when the school

771
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 3: is not allowed to know about this, we don't they're

772
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: not going to create collectives like they do at the

773
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 3: college level, and so the coach is not going to

774
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: supposedly know about it, the athletic director, the school administrator

775
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: is not going to know about it, and so they're

776
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: going to have a hands on approach. You're going to

777
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 3: have a I believe, a recruiting war based on who

778
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: has alumni that are wealthy enough to affect who attends

779
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: what school.

780
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: But isn't that going on now?

781
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: How?

782
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: I remember stories when I went to high school and

783
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: presumably you as well. What they're schools right now. I

784
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: won't name anybody in particular, but their schools now tend

785
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: to be more private and Christian. But they do this now. Well,

786
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: they'll take, you know, bring the family in, they recruit

787
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: an athlete and they'll put them up for free, like

788
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: like in housing. And so it's going on now.

789
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: Well, I agree there is recruiting going on now, and

790
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: yet it's not supposed to happen, and it's supposed to

791
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: be investigated by OHSAA. I don't think that they can

792
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: handle it. It's beyond their stripe and so this will

793
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: just make it worse, It will exacerbate it, and there

794
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 3: will be a recruiting war to create all star teams

795
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 3: based on who has wealthy alumni that are willing to

796
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: take their school down that path. And I just think

797
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 3: we see how this has ruined college athletics, and it's

798
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: going to have the same impact at high school.

799
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it ruined it. What we're

800
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: in flux right now. I think that's the thing. And

801
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: what's college and athletics look like in five or ten

802
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: years will be the question. We don't know, because it's again,

803
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: it's changing so quickly before eyes. It seems like it's

804
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: broken right now, but it may not be ultimately. If

805
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: you're a student or the parents of a student, shouldn't

806
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: you be able to profit off someone's namage? And like

807
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: the why? Why why is the money? Why is it

808
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: a bad thing? I mean, I guess the team unity

809
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: and things, but you know, let's face it, we have

810
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: we have kids who are poor playing sports with kids

811
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: who are rich and kids you know have you know,

812
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars cars and the other kids got to

813
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: walk to practice. So we already have that disparity. That's

814
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: nothing new.

815
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not opposed to kids making money off of

816
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 3: their ability. But if they want to do that, they

817
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 3: ought to go to the Olympics, they have to join

818
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: a professional tour. They ought to go go get enrolled

819
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: in college early and get college in IL money. But

820
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 3: we want to protect what has been a pure amateur

821
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: situation in Ohio high school. And and you know that's

822
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: you see what it's happening. Like, let's use the University

823
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: of Cincinnati Bearcat quarterback who just transferred to I think

824
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 3: it was Texas Tech. He didn't transfer for a better

825
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: educational opportunity or a better major. He transferred because that

826
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: other school was willing to offer him five million dollars

827
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: And he's going to make more next year than the

828
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns starting quarterback over his entire five year contracts.

829
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 3: And this is this is to just continue to take

830
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: us down the wrong path.

831
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: Well should we be celebrating? I mean I look at

832
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: that and go wow, good for that kid. That's like

833
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: getting a full ride scholarship to Harvard I suppose. And

834
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: the educational side of this thing, and we don't look

835
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: at that going oh, grey, well, this kid's doing really well.

836
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: Or you know they're there kids that win science fairs

837
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: and the company goes and buys their ideas. We celebrate that.

838
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: I don't distinct make that much potential in that and

839
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: what's going on in sports.

840
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 3: I guess, well, I guess we may have to disagree

841
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 3: on that, Scott, because I believe that we need to

842
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: protect our students from agents. We need to protect our

843
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 3: students from tax advisors. We need to protect our students

844
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: just like we do in child labor laws. We protect them.

845
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 3: And this is the people are going to come after them.

846
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 3: They're not ready psychologically or mentally to handle this kind

847
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 3: of pressure. We've seen how over the last a couple

848
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 3: of decades it's the number of suicide among college athletes

849
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: is doubled. And so we need to protect them from

850
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: this kind of pressure, protect them from becoming some kind

851
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: of influencer, and they should be there to learn and

852
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 3: grow and not to earn an income.

853
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: Represent of Adam Bird out of Clement County of the

854
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: show proposing to stop nil for high school athletes here

855
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: in the Buckey States, CO sponsored that piece of legislation.

856
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: You know, I look at this and okay, name age

857
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: in life. I don't know how much your typical high

858
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: school athlete's going to get, if anything, it could be

859
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: like fifty bucks or something like that, because most schools

860
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: in Ohio are rural and maybe I don't know, there's

861
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: a local oil change place goes okay, fine, we'll give you.

862
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't give you like one hundred bucks a month.

863
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: It's that that big a concern because I would dig typically.

864
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned the outliers, the kids making millions

865
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: of dollars, which are it's extremely rare. But if a

866
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: kid does get one of these things, it's only going

867
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: to be for a little bit of money. Anyway. Is

868
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: this a you know, killing an aunt with a sledgehammer?

869
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think. I mean, you made some assumptions there,

870
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: and I'm I'm going to push back on you a

871
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: little bit. I don't think that you can just assume

872
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: that it's going to be fifty dollars. I don't think

873
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 3: that you can assume that's going to happen in rural areas.

874
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: I think the rich will get richer so to speak,

875
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: when it comes to talent at certain schools. And you know,

876
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,479
Speaker 3: it should not become a bidding war, a recruiting war

877
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 3: based on money. It should be about, you know, where

878
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: it's the best educational choice. Option for my child so

879
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: they can grow and be ready to contribute to society.

880
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: And so we're trying to protect the children. We're trying

881
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: to protect the school opportunity, and we don't want this

882
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 3: to become a recruiting war based on money, the way

883
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: it's happened in college.

884
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think too, it's already become that. And if

885
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: you're to go back, I think the problem is mom

886
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: and dad have leaned into this themselves in a sense.

887
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: Is that okay, in banning the n will be one thing,

888
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: but to really address the root costs of the problem.

889
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: And you said, you know this is about amateur sports.

890
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: I don't know how amateur it is. When you have

891
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, trainers and coaches and agents and you're not

892
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: you can't ban that. The competition from you know, youth

893
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: on to get in a travel league, to get in

894
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 1: this to are pushed to have a calling to play

895
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: a particular sport or sports. And of course, the more

896
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: mom and dad invest in their athletic career, the more

897
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: that they see as at stake. And a lot of

898
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: parents think wrongly so that their kid's going to get

899
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: a college scholarship and go play professional sports when odds

900
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: are you know, very very much against Rocky Boyman could

901
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 1: talk about how hard that is here on seven hundred

902
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: WW this afternoon, But I look at it and go, well,

903
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: you know, if this is about the semantics of education

904
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: putting that first, didn't mom and dad throw that out

905
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: the window a long time ago?

906
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 3: Well, there's no doubt that mom and dad are spending

907
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 3: a lot of money on their children's travel team. And

908
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: you know, if you're going to add in there and

909
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: a presumption now that mom and dad are investing all

910
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 3: of this money in your travel team and your travel

911
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: opportunity right that now you're going to help reimburse mom

912
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 3: and dad based on what you might be able to earn.

913
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 3: I think that's tremendous pressure on a young person that

914
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: we don't want.

915
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: And again, but it's happening. I know it's happening right now.

916
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: Well, no, and IL is not happening right now. Kids

917
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: are not getting paid right now. And OSSCA would like

918
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 3: to take us down this path. And may I remind

919
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: you Scott that they are only doing this because one

920
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 3: judge in Hamilton County issued or ruling and so they

921
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: made a change. And I don't think that we should

922
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 3: take the entire state of Ohio down this path because

923
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 3: one judge and Franklin County made this decision, and I

924
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 3: believe that this is an important enough issue that the

925
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 3: state legislator should weigh in on this. And if my

926
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 3: colleagues decides that I'm wrong, then at least we considered it.

927
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair.

928
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 5: No.

929
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: I mentioned it's happening now in the sense that you know,

930
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: their schools even before this NIL deal was struck, that

931
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: we're essentially paying the parents to come move here and

932
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: stay of getting their district and go to school academies

933
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: and things like that. I mean, it is happening now.

934
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: It's also happening that you know, there's tremendous pressure for kids,

935
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: not just in the athletics, but especially academics, as you mentioned,

936
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: where kids a suicide rate and the mental health issues

937
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: among college students out of all time high, simply because

938
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: of that pressure that's put on them by people in

939
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: there inner circle name their own families. I don't know

940
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: if NAL's it probably will contribute to that somewhat, but

941
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: that's already the reality for a lot of college students.

942
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: Whether there's student athletes or not.

943
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: Well, there's there's scientific data out there that show that

944
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: college athletes are committing suicide at double the rate that

945
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: they work twenty five years. Again, that is a scientific fact.

946
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: And we are putting tremendous pressure on these people at

947
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: age nineteen, twenty twenty one. And I don't think that

948
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 3: we should do that to fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year olds.

949
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: And we're trying to protect our children from people who

950
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: want to come down and take advantage of them based

951
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 3: on their athletic skills. And we need to protect our

952
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 3: kids from these kinds of people that want to come

953
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 3: in and take advantage of them.

954
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and okay, it's double where it was, but the

955
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: suicide rates for college students who aren't student athletes are

956
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: paced up there. It went up like something like sixty

957
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: percent over the last twenty years. That's increasing at the

958
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: same ratio. And so it's not student athletes. It's all

959
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: college students, and that is because of the tremendous pressure

960
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: we put on college students, not let alone those who

961
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: are student athletes. It's all college models. The problem is

962
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: that we think the way to you know, having a

963
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: perfect life is to go to college. We know that's

964
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: that true. We're starting to rethink those whole things. It's about,

965
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, the person themselves, as opposed to the degree

966
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: that you're having on the wall. We've overvalued college education

967
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: and we're starting to see that come back down, and

968
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: I think the athletic part certainly fits into that. I

969
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: agree with you.

970
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know this bill is about returning the

971
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: the OHSAA amateur status law to what it used to be.

972
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to micromanage OHSAA. I don't want to

973
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: oversee their every move, but I do think that we

974
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 3: need to say no, we're going to move backwards. And

975
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: I might remind you to Scott that we have done

976
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 3: this twice in the past when it comes to transcender

977
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: eligibility and the state legislature said no, we're going to

978
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: protect our girls. We also said no to OAHSAA a

979
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: couple of years ago on the issue cash when you

980
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 3: attend the game, and we require them to accept cash

981
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 3: when you.

982
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: Want to enter.

983
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: Isn't this going to create a black market again? I

984
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: mean it existed before. There's schools out there that were

985
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: doing this long before. Nil Adam Bird that we're recruiting

986
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: kids from different districts or held different states of that matter,

987
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: finding jobs for mom and or dad, putting up at places,

988
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: and essentially they're getting de facto payment, maybe not cash,

989
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: and maybe some walking around money from the booster's life

990
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: for very powerful schools, not necessarily public schools, private schools.

991
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: How would that apply to the how to fix it?

992
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: Wouldn't this just create a black market? They just go

993
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: back to the way they've voiced done it, and then

994
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 1: you still have.

995
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that there's there's been that kind

996
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 3: of situation. Maybe there has and I'm not been aware

997
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 3: of it. Lady mom or dad. Yeah, so you know,

998
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: I don't think that we should I don't think that

999
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 3: we should add to that. Again, this is about protecting

1000
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 3: our kids from a situation that they're not prepared for.

1001
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: You we're talking about teenagers here. They're talking about teenagers

1002
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: that's going to need a tax advisor, They're going to

1003
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: need an agent, they're going to be entering into contracts,

1004
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 3: and you've got to be careful about protecting our young

1005
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: people from the people that want to take advantage of them.

1006
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: Now, well, I think they also get some if they're

1007
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: getting big money, they're getting some of those too. It's

1008
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: not like they're complete victims. Well, I mean the composition's

1009
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 1: pretty good.

1010
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: I want to do that if you want. If you're

1011
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 3: so uber talented that you're capable of taking advantage of

1012
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: the athletic giftedness, then you need to go to the Olympics.

1013
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 3: You need to go to a tour, a professional tour.

1014
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 3: You need to go to college early and go Aaron College.

1015
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: And I owe money.

1016
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: You mentioned the protection thing, so doesn't that I mentioned

1017
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: the model that existed for a long time where at

1018
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: private schools that they do this. I don't know how

1019
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: how often it does, but it still has happening right

1020
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: now as a matter of fact, where you have, you know,

1021
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: kids recruited from other areas to move back to the

1022
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: district in order to play for their team, and then

1023
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: of course the family winklink is taken care of. How

1024
00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: would this protect them?

1025
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean you point out that recruiting is

1026
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: happening today and yet OHSAA deems that are legal, and

1027
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 3: so recruiting happens anyway. And I don't think that they're

1028
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 3: going to be able to police the situation that they're

1029
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: putting in place here, and they're not going to be

1030
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 3: able to investigate all of that. You're going to put

1031
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: You're going to put now a burden upon the school administrator,

1032
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 3: the athletic director of the coach to help police this,

1033
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 3: to make it to inform OHSAA on these kinds of things.

1034
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 3: And I just we're opening a can of worms that

1035
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 3: I don't think is the reason why the public tax

1036
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: payer pays or weight rooms, stadiums, gymnasiums so that they

1037
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: can have an extension of the classroom. And now we're

1038
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 3: going to allow people to take advantage of these young

1039
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: children that well they're not young children, but they you know,

1040
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 3: they're not of age, and take advantage of them based

1041
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 3: on facilities that have been sent by the text player.

1042
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: Adam final point is is this a nanny state issue?

1043
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: Does this feels like nanny state to me?

1044
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 3: Well, I think we have a duty. Okay, we have

1045
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 3: a duty and responsibility as a government to protect our children.

1046
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: And we've got people that want to use the situation

1047
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: to take advantage.

1048
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: But my point is if the parents are okay and

1049
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: they lean into this, going wow, I've got the next

1050
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: year borrow here, we can get some money, Well, how

1051
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: is it? Why is it the state's obligation to protect

1052
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: that child from their own family.

1053
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do this all the time. And you know,

1054
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: we can talk about multiple examples of how we try

1055
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 3: to protect children and and so you know, it's again,

1056
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 3: they're not emotionally stable, they're not ready for the kinds

1057
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 3: of pressure that we're going to place upon them. And

1058
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 3: we want to protect the reason that we created these

1059
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 3: athletics in a first place, which is an extension of

1060
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 3: the classroom. It's not it should not be, I believe,

1061
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: and I hope to convince my college league that it

1062
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 3: should not be about allowing these young people to be

1063
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 3: preyed upon. We went and protect them and preserve what

1064
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: we've had in the past.

1065
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: Are you hearing a lot from constituents supporting it or

1066
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: is it just simply too early?

1067
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 3: You know, mostly I think people constituents are listening and learning.

1068
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 3: But who I'm hearing mostly from our school administrators and

1069
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 3: coaches who are very much opposed to this. And remember

1070
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 3: that there were a couple of hundred schools who have

1071
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: stained from this vote. They did not want to go

1072
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Speaker 3: down this vote. Others have told me that they didn't

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Speaker 3: want to vote yes, but they voted yes because they

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Speaker 3: felt strong armed by OHSAA. So most of the people

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Speaker 3: that I'm hearing from are those that are actually in

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Speaker 3: the school community.

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Speaker 1: Now they're worried about this Jimy Brown laws that's going Hey,

1078
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: you know, win in violation of that. It's going to

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00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: cost us a lot more money. We just acquiesced, even

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Speaker 1: though we think it's wrong. But no, I'm interested to

1081
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: see Adam how this thing plays out. I appreciate coming

1082
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: on this morn and answered tough questions, and we'll continue

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00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: the discussion probably at the other date. Add Richmond, I'm sorry,

1084
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: Adam bird out in New Richmond, claimout Conney, thanks again,

1085
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Speaker 1: but I appreciate coming on absolutely. Scott, thanks, thank be

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Speaker 1: well be well. I've got to get a news update in.

1087
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure this story has legs. Yeah, I'm not convinced

1088
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: this is this is the remedy. But anyway, quick time out.

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00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: We got a news update, very latest with weather moving

1090
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Speaker 1: in yet again. Winter will not give up. Seven hundred

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Speaker 1: WLW helping you navigate.

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Speaker 6: The rocky path the fulfilling employment.

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Speaker 1: Here's our career. Sir Julie Bouki and my friend Julie

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00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: is back this morning on seven hundred w wel W

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Speaker 1: braving the weather and warmer climates. How are you good, lying?

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00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 4: I am fantastic good.

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Speaker 1: We've often talked in the past about well, for example,

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Speaker 1: the CEO and the CFO that we're you know, at

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00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: the at the at the concert and then they were

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Speaker 1: banging and they got probably got fire. They had resigned.

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00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: It was a big ugly thing. And also we've had

1102
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Speaker 1: people posting stuff on social media that's gotten them fired.

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Speaker 1: We know the boundaries there. There's a local case here.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit different though. This guy's

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00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: a mail carry out of Fairfield. Jason Thompson has been

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00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: a mail care for more than two decades. They put

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00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: him on leave after the last big snowstorm because he

1108
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: posted his frustrations on Facebook about working in conditions that

1109
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: were not optimal, and they said, hey, they showed up.

1110
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: They're no trucks, there's nothing to deliver. But they wanted

1111
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 1: us to dig out our trucks by hand without any

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00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: equipment to do so. I'm sixty years old. I'm not

1113
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: in the best shape, you know, I'm sixty. Everything hurts

1114
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: at this age. I get you. They plowed a lot,

1115
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: but pushed all the snow up against the trucks they

1116
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: were supposed to dig this alid by hand. And he

1117
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: complained about this on Facebook during this level two snow

1118
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: emergency that we had, and the end result is the

1119
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 1: postal Service pulled him off the job for a little

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Speaker 1: bit of time, I think a few hours anyway, before

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Speaker 1: the union got involved. But you know, this feels like

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00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: a whistleblower thing to me as opposed to an actual,

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00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: you know, doing something stupid on social media. How does

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Speaker 1: this work in the real world in the workplace.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we've talked to I think we've referenced this,

1126
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 4: but there is there are so many cases winding their

1127
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 4: way through the system right now of people who were

1128
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 4: fired for posts on their private social media and the

1129
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 4: courts were you know, it is. It is a mess

1130
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 4: right now in terms of what really does violate your

1131
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 4: company's code of conduct or ethics or contract or whatever

1132
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 4: it is when you post it. And you know, I

1133
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 4: can give you points on both sides as why it's

1134
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 4: from or why it's right, but in this case, it's

1135
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 4: interesting he simply posted this is unsafe, this is dangerous,

1136
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 4: this is unsafe, and you know, like you said, they

1137
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 4: they put them on leave for a few hours. Then

1138
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 4: the union got involved, or the post office realized, oops,

1139
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 4: you know, we're not going to win in the court

1140
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 4: of public opinion here, or we don't have a leg

1141
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: to stand on, and so we need we need to

1142
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 4: put the genie back in the bottle if we can.

1143
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 4: And you know, if I was thinking about this, can

1144
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 4: you know this whole rain or sleet or even snow

1145
00:54:59,160 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 4: that we.

1146
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: That's not true anymore?

1147
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 4: What are so used to looking outside and the mailman's

1148
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 4: trudging through two or three feet of snow, And but

1149
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 4: I start thinking about the mail I get in my

1150
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 4: mailbox every day because so much is available online. I'm

1151
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 4: not gonna I'm not going to miss the flyer for

1152
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 4: a window replace if it doesn't deliver for a day

1153
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 4: or two.

1154
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, a couple of generations ago. You go

1155
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: to the mailbox, Oh, I got bills, I got a

1156
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: I got two dollars from Aunt Dorothy for my birthday.

1157
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: I got that doesn't happy give out to the mailbox.

1158
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: It's depressing because ninety nine percent of its trash and

1159
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: the other they are bills. Like, I don't want to

1160
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Speaker 1: go to my mailbox anyways. It's a box of depression.

1161
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Speaker 4: Julie, but you know, like you said, us be the

1162
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 4: highlight of the day. I remember we used to get

1163
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 4: when I was grown up. We got the newspaper in

1164
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 4: the morning and the newspaper in the evening, and like

1165
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 4: so much had changed during the day, but it was

1166
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 4: like we would go oud look for it because it

1167
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 4: was our only source, the only way we got bills.

1168
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 4: We got that card from Aunt Martha, and we understood

1169
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Speaker 4: what was happening. And so the world has changed so much,

1170
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 4: and I understand that that, especially if you're older, you

1171
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 4: still may as I am, but I don't. I get

1172
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 4: most everything online, and I get that service from the

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00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 4: post office, which is wonderful that tells you what's coming

1174
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 4: in your mail and so you can see it online

1175
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 4: what's coming before it shows up. So the world has

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Speaker 4: changed in terms of how we get information, and so

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Speaker 4: I think it's time as we look at this what

1178
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 4: makes sense. It's not what makes sense in terms of

1179
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Speaker 4: employee safety. What makes sense in terms of you know,

1180
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 4: what the people expect, And there's very little we can't

1181
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 4: live a day without, especially when we get so much

1182
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 4: paperless anymore. So I think it's you know, in this space,

1183
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, come on, the guy expressed his opinion, his opinion,

1184
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 4: and I think clearly they looked at it and said, Okay,

1185
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 4: you know we're not going to win here, because if

1186
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 4: you're being asked to dig your time out by hand

1187
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 4: give to take people their advertisements, there's something I think

1188
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 4: they need to purse my personal opinions. They need to

1189
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 4: step back and take a look at what are the expectations.

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Speaker 4: I know there's been talk about limiting the mail to

1191
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 4: three days a week. You know, all those sort of

1192
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 4: things have been talked about, and we will get there someday.

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00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 4: But I think when you look at your people and

1194
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 4: clearly they have a union for this, that's reasonable. You know,

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00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 4: if the whole town is shut down, if Kroger is

1196
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 4: shut down, I think we've got to look at reasonableness

1197
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 4: instead of standing on this rain, sleep, snow, hurricane. You

1198
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 4: know you will get your advertising.

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Speaker 1: I don't think, honestly, I don't think that's the way.

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00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean, moneys don't. We didn't get mail at our house,

1201
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: A mailman didn't, and a jeep I don't think that.

1202
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: I think that hole in the rain are still seats now.

1203
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: I think it's like if we get you most days

1204
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: of the week. We're good. I think I think the

1205
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: model's changed.

1206
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and not.

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Speaker 1: Only that's I'll point out to Julie in this case,

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00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: he said, there are no trucks coming to drop stuff up.

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00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: We had nothing to deliver. They're just making us clean

1210
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: our trucks out, to clean our trucks out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm sure it was. Well, we're

1212
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 4: paying you, we're going to have you do something right. Well, Susan,

1213
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 4: what case is leadership or whatever you want to call it,

1214
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 4: We'll just call it loosely leadership of organizations. And the

1215
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 4: more you know, it's a government organization, right, and so

1216
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 4: there's not generally a lot of agility or a lot

1217
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 4: of thinking around is what we're doing still makes sense.

1218
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 4: And believe it is not just government organizations. It is many, many,

1219
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 4: many that are really stuck in this is the way

1220
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 4: we've always done it. And that is that's really dangerous

1221
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 4: because you can't. You've got to keep up. Whether you

1222
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 4: agree or not with what's going on in the world,

1223
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 4: you have to keep up if you expect to attract

1224
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 4: and retake retain good people. And this generation, these people

1225
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 4: you're trying to attract to take on these mail routes.

1226
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 3: They're not going to do that.

1227
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 4: And again, rin your hands, clutch your hurls. But you

1228
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 4: can't argue against what is. And so what can you

1229
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 4: do to change your environment, change the culture, change the expectations.

1230
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 4: And if you are in a situation where it is

1231
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 4: a real disaster for you if you miss your mail

1232
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 4: for one day. You have someone who's who's pretty adept

1233
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 4: at technology, have them help you learn how to do

1234
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 4: things online, do things paperless. Right, It's I mean, it's yeah,

1235
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 4: there's a little bit of a learning curve if you're

1236
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 4: not used to that, but it's going to reduce the anxiety.

1237
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 4: And people are even send your birthday cards by my

1238
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 4: text now.

1239
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: So right, you just get a text happy Birthday with

1240
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: some emojis. Good enough, She Julie Balki Our career Sure

1241
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: up every Wednesday morning on the Scots Slone show. Today

1242
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: it's about this Fairfield postal worker that got suspended for

1243
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: a little bit because he posted pictures of them having

1244
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: to digular on trucks of a lot and so that

1245
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: we don't do that. It's like and I'm older and

1246
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: it's like they didn't give us any shovels and the

1247
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: snow is really high and we're not delivering stuff anyway.

1248
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: With that was the plant of this because he saw

1249
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: it as a safety issue. Is that the distinction here?

1250
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you post, you bleep, post stuff about your employer,

1251
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: You're probably going to get talked to. You make it

1252
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: yelled at, you make get suspended, you might get fired.

1253
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: But if it's a safety issue, is that different.

1254
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 4: I think it's harder to it's harder to make it

1255
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 4: stand up if you are asking someone to do something

1256
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 4: that you know that literally they're saying to everyone, stay

1257
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 4: at home, stay off the roads, just just for your safety,

1258
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 4: you know, don't don't get out there. You have to

1259
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 4: look at what is what the community at large is

1260
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 4: being asked to do, what the school's doing where I

1261
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 4: mean companies were. I mean you have to look at

1262
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 4: what's reasonable inside of that instead of taking a stand

1263
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 4: and saying no, you know, get out there and clean

1264
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 4: off your vehicle. It's I mean, be treat your people

1265
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 4: like the humans they are. If you have bad performance

1266
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 4: or bad behavior, that's one thing. But if somebody, if

1267
01:00:54,680 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 4: somebody raises what could reasonably be called a safety issue,

1268
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 4: I think you have to instead of just responding and

1269
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 4: saying you're suspended, you have to step back and say,

1270
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 4: you know, so and so raised a good issue. We

1271
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 4: you know, will take a step back and look at this,

1272
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 4: and you know this this I'm I'm a leader, I'm

1273
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 4: your boss, I know the best, do what I do,

1274
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 4: what I tell you to do. That style is not

1275
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 4: working anymore. And again, if you don't like it, sorry,

1276
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 4: but it's it's just the way it is, and there's

1277
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 4: got to be some room for flexibility and reasonableness.

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01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: Now we only know part of the story here too.

1279
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: It could very well if that person went to management

1280
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: and said this is well, why are we doing it?

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Speaker 1: And that's to shut up and do it anyway, then

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Speaker 1: that's valid. But if they, instead of complaining, decided to

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Speaker 1: put pictures up on social media, they may have a

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Speaker 1: legitimate compliant. Does that change things?

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Speaker 4: I mean maybe, because people.

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Speaker 1: Often will jump to social media's for you know all

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Speaker 1: escalator rightther and going hey, what about the you know,

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Speaker 1: the passive aggressive thing. So many people now are passive

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Speaker 1: aggressed of like, well, why wouldn't you just tell me

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Speaker 1: that this is a problem instead of going and making

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Speaker 1: a big deal out if you had asked me, I

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Speaker 1: would go, hey, maybe you're right about what what happened,

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Speaker 1: just you know, communicating communication. We don't know if that

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Speaker 1: happen here though, we.

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Speaker 4: Don't know, we don't And I think it's you've got

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Speaker 4: to look at this and say this Probably going to

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Speaker 4: the leadership at the local level and saying this makes

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Speaker 4: no sense is probably not going to get to anywhere.

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Speaker 4: Let's be honest. I mean, maybe the union as a

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Speaker 4: whole could take this to the table, into the conversation.

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Speaker 4: But we are seeing and this is not always good,

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Speaker 4: but we are seeing that public pressure has a really

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Speaker 4: strong impact on companies, on humans, that we're seeing it

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Speaker 4: in every sector of society. And again, you know, it's

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Speaker 4: sometimes it's so cringey and other times like yeah, I

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Speaker 4: mean once, once your bad behavior was put into the

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Speaker 4: into the spotlight, you had to change your behavior because

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Speaker 4: you weren't going to do it any other way. So

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01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 4: we're seeing that play out in real time in every

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Speaker 4: sector of life. So I'm actually not surprised if they

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Speaker 4: said see you later and then they you know, and

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Speaker 4: then they said, oops, never mind, come back to work.

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Speaker 4: So this is something that someone has to be the

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Speaker 4: one to surface the problem, and then the power the

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Speaker 4: people that have the power have to decide or get

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Speaker 4: to decide. I guess what to do about it. And

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Speaker 4: they might say go back to work, but don't ever

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Speaker 4: do that again or you'll get fired. They might say that,

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Speaker 4: you know, and but it's social media gives us incredible power,

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Speaker 4: and it's sometimes used for good and it's sometimes not

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Speaker 4: so much. And that's all that's I would say, I'm

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Speaker 4: so glad it wasn't the thing when I was Wow.

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Speaker 1: So it's always changing. That's that's the nature of it. Children. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in that regard, I look as go, okay, well, so

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Speaker 1: what's the take away from someone working right now? I

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Speaker 1: was like, well, this thing at work? Should I put

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Speaker 1: something up online? I mean, what, what's what should be

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Speaker 1: the checklist in your mind for stuff like this?

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Speaker 4: If I post this is what I think all the

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Speaker 4: time about what I post.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what's the worst.

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Speaker 4: Thing that could happen now when we are in our emotions,

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Speaker 4: when we are feeling like this is wrong and I

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Speaker 4: got to tell the world about it. If we don't

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Speaker 4: take that extra step to sit back and say, okay,

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Speaker 4: I want to post this. If you're really strongly about it.

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Speaker 4: What's the worst thing that could happen? In this case,

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Speaker 4: he might have said, I could lose my job. Is

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Speaker 4: it worth losing my job for? And he might have

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01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 4: said heck yes, Or he might've not even had that

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01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 4: extra thought. He might have just an other world needs

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01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 4: to know about this. So thinking about the downside before

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01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 4: you post, and then decide, am I okay? Like if

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01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 4: you post something and what if this goes What if

1345
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 4: this goes viral? What if all of a sudden, you know,

1346
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Speaker 4: tens of thousands of people are posting this and coming

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Speaker 4: in and give my giving my business a one star review?

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Speaker 6: I live with that.

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Speaker 4: So you really have to imagine am I always going

1350
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 4: to be proud of what I posted? Am I going

1351
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 4: to be willing to defend it? And so that we

1352
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 4: see examples of this everywhere where you think what were

1353
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 4: you thinking? That goes through my head so many times

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01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 4: a day when I see things people post like what what?

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Speaker 4: What is the thinking here? And a lot of times

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01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 4: there isn't any thinking, And the other time maybe there is.

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Speaker 4: And I don't care what people you know, I don't

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01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 4: care what kind of backlash I get to. You get

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Speaker 4: to decide that. But then you have to live with

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Speaker 4: the consequences of what you do.

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Speaker 1: Is it tend to be more generational because I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, younger people, there is the time my daughter's

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Speaker 1: posted stuff and going take that stupid what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: You're going to You're not thinking of the implications of this,

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01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: you know, and you'll go, yeah, yeah, you know, you're right,

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Speaker 1: Well I feel this way. Well, just because you feel

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Speaker 1: that way doesn't mean you know, you're employer could look

1368
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: at this and go, yeah, we got some problems right there. Yeah,

1369
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Speaker 1: you can exercise your First Amendment rights, but it is

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Speaker 1: not an absolute right that you have. There are limits

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Speaker 1: in your eployer. If it's your employer, you got problems there.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, you know, we often talk about

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Speaker 1: especially the older workers, and I think you know, when

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Speaker 1: we start talking about term limits for presidents, be it

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01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, seventy or seventy five, whoever it might be,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good idea because the older you get,

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Speaker 1: the more out of touch you get with the with

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Speaker 1: the current state of values, and it's always changing. It's

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Speaker 1: never don't give me this, it's the way it used

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Speaker 1: to be. It's never going to happen America is always

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Speaker 1: changing for that reason, so as we get older, we

1382
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Speaker 1: get less in touch with what the current zeitgeis to

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Speaker 1: the current fields are, or the the way the direction

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Speaker 1: the country's headed or or communities headed. That's just natural.

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Speaker 1: It's always happened, happened when we were well, we didn't

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Speaker 1: have this when we were younger. Yeah we did. It

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Speaker 1: was just it's not as extreme or different than this

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01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: because our parents and grandparents bitched about how stuff was

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Speaker 1: when they were kids, and then we just looked at

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Speaker 1: them and all, please stop. And it's that's the way

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Speaker 1: we evolve in America. And so I think the same

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01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: thing is here too, is that. Yeah, maybe younger people

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Speaker 1: not thinking about it, But then there's older people that

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Speaker 1: are putting stuff up there. They are saying things that

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Speaker 1: wind up getting in trouble for because they think this

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Speaker 1: is the way it used to be and it's not anymore.

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Speaker 1: So I think the two ends of the spectrum are

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Speaker 1: the reality.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, it's when you get older you

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01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 4: don't sometimes really understand how it works. How There was

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Speaker 4: this case, this thing recently that happened a furniture store

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Speaker 4: in Clarkfield, Tennessee.

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Speaker 6: The guy's wife.

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Speaker 4: Posted something really horrible and like everybody who shows up

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Speaker 4: to a protest deserves to be shot. I mean it

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Speaker 4: was like it was that that like direct and guess

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Speaker 4: what the backlash against his furniture store, their furniture store,

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Speaker 4: even though it was the wife and I don't know

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Speaker 4: how involved he all, but the backlash was and he

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01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 4: came out there and tried to quell it. But I'm

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Speaker 4: sure I'm sure she's mortified that she's Look, she still

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Speaker 4: may think that way, but I'm sure she's mortified that

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Speaker 4: she posted it and put it out there in public,

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Speaker 4: because I don't think and these people are probably in

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Speaker 4: their fifties, I would guess, so just we don't think

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Speaker 4: about we get so in our own bubble that we

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Speaker 4: don't think about how the person who thinks one hundred

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Speaker 4: and eighty degrees differently than we do, all they might

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Speaker 4: respond to this, and what the backlash might be.

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Speaker 1: And extremes are I Matt, with extremes, that's the that's

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Speaker 1: the probable. And you know what's really weird about that story.

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Speaker 1: It was in where the Carolinas, I think, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the woman's mortified. She canna be more mortified

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Speaker 1: when she's got to live out of her car because

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Speaker 1: they're gonna close that store. Is there's a furniture store

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Speaker 1: I think in Northern Kentucky or Kentucky that had the

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Speaker 1: same name, and people were dosing that store and guys like,

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Speaker 1: that's that's not We're not the same company, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not the same guy. And so you know, people just

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Speaker 1: lob handgrid at each other now without even getting it right.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible. She's Julie Bouki. Our career shirp. But for

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Speaker 1: more or if maybe you're looking for some consulting or

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Speaker 1: looking for some answers to your career, your your trajectory,

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Speaker 1: she'd be the one to reach out to at the

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Speaker 1: Baukigroup dot com. That's b a UK. The Baukigroup dot

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Speaker 1: com jumps on the show every Wednesday morning. It's Julie

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Speaker 1: on the job on the Scotsland Show. All the best friend,

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Speaker 1: be warm, stay well, talk to you next week.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: With news on the way in five minutes, full forecast

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Speaker 1: coming up in just seconds. Here I also get into

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Speaker 1: and just talking this out with you is the latest

1443
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: on the Nancy Guthrie abduction. Because this is something you

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01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,719
Speaker 1: just don't see anymore. You used to see it more often,

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Speaker 1: and you don't see it anymore. And that is allegedly

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Speaker 1: the ransom. What so the dynamics behind this to me

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Speaker 1: are fast. And I was talking to a law enforcement

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Speaker 1: professional who she'll rename be named nameless. I guess I

1449
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: should say, I talk for a living, don't worry about it,

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01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: and it's some interesting stuff they pointed out you may

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01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: not think of when it comes to trying to find

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Speaker 1: out the person responsible. Of course, bring this lady back alive.

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Speaker 1: That's on the way after news on seven hundred WW

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01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: since now five thousand dollars that's the average amount of

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01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: money people in the Scott's loan. This is seven hundred

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Speaker 1: w wel w on this midweek morning, about halfway there.

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Speaker 1: Baby almost made it, almost made it to the tipping point.

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01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: So much going on in our world, but also this,

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01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: this is one of those things that you look at

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01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: and it's just a horrible sit situation obviously, but I

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01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: think we're all fascinated to some degree by it. And

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Speaker 1: of course talk about the disappearance of Notre Dame Academy

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Speaker 1: alumni Nancy Guthrie, the mother eighty four year old mother

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Speaker 1: of NBC's Savannah Guthrie. And people I know that work

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Speaker 1: for NBC who have an after an interactor, they said,

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Speaker 1: she is the real deal, Like Savannah Guthrie is one

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Speaker 1: of the nicest persons, the nicest people in broadcasting. And

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Speaker 1: of course even if you're not, do you deserve your

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Speaker 1: eighty four year old mother to suddenly become missing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: here's Savannah Guthrie is supposedly going to go to Italy

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Speaker 1: for the Olympics, and now she's not going to be

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Speaker 1: able to do that because her priorities as such as

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Speaker 1: her mom is missing and she's got to be there

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Speaker 1: for her. So she's in Arizona. The very latest on this,

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Speaker 1: we do know that her Nancy Guthrie's DNA or blood

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Speaker 1: was found at the scene, namely in the front near

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Speaker 1: the front door. Police do heavy what they think is

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Speaker 1: a ransom note, but they're not sure it's real. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what that means in evidence, of course, indicating

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Speaker 1: she was removed against her will, and it's not dementia related.

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Speaker 1: Why said she just simply physically has not been able

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Speaker 1: to walk like fifty yards. But she's sharp as attack mentally,

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01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: which we all hope to be at her age. And

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Speaker 1: of course the narrative about kidnapping comes first and foremost,

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01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 1: because that's what it feels and smells like. But it

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01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: is getting increasingly more common, and I shouldn't say common,

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01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: that's an exaggeration. But there was a time in America

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Speaker 1: where ransom kidnappings happened all the time. If you go

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01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 1: back to like the nineteen twenties and thirties, it was

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Speaker 1: big back then. And in nineteen thirty two, Charles Lindbergh's

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Speaker 1: baby was kidnapped. I'm sure you know that story. He

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01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: is twenty months old and was taken later found dead,

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01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: and Bruno Hopman, of course, was the individual controversially executed

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01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: for his abduction and murder, and there's some controversy surrounding

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01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 1: that they got the wrong guy. But nonetheless, what happened

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01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: in thirty two. Up till thirty two, it happened all

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Speaker 1: the time. People in Cincinnati were getting kidnapped, and not

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01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: for as much money as you would think, just because

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Speaker 1: they would do it. And so what happened in thirty two,

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Speaker 1: because it gripped the nation, the Feds got involved and

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01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 1: they made kidnapping a federal crime, meaning it was in

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01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: the pervian jurisdiction of the emerging FBI and now you

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01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: have federal resources behind you. And the penalties were increased

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01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,919
Speaker 1: during that with that law to include the death penalty

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01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 1: for kidnappings resulting in death, and it created somewhat of

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01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 1: an effective deterrent through aggressive prosecution, and that ended pretty

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01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 1: quickly after nineteen thirty two. Today we're starting to see

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01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:32,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of resurgence, and that is because technology

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01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: and you know kid well, you think about what's preventing

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01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 1: them too, is you know technology, they had the kids,

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01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: digital tracking, amber alerts, we have a massive surveillance infrastructure. Hell,

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01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: we're talking about putting more cameras up and all these

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01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 1: going to be on the show to our console person

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01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: who wants more cameras up maybe in relation to or

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01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 1: indifference of the curfew center that's costs like three hundred

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01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: and eighty thousand dollars. She's going to come on the

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01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: show tomorrow to talk about that. But again, we have

1518
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 1: more license plate readers and sell town to sell tower triangulation.

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01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,719
Speaker 1: You have GPS, you've got ring door bells, everybody's cameras

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01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: are always on. It's harder for criminals to do what

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01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: they do, plus the digital trails and forensics and things

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01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: like that, and it's become unprofitable because there's a really

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01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: high likelhood because of that, you're going to get caught

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01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: and you're facing a life sentence or death penalty and

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01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: the fencer behind this, and so we're starting to see

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01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: it maybe a little bit of a resurgence in this.

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01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: So recently there's an alarming new trend, at least for

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01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: the first half of the last starting last year, we're

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01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 1: starting to see a spike and domestic kidnapping for ransom cases.

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01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: They think the economy is largely behind this, but the

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01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: technology that eventually catches up the law enforcement uses catches

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01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: up for the bad guys as well. And so the

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01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 1: digital landscape makes it easier for criminals demand payment through

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01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 1: untraceable means. We're talking cryptocurrency and anonymous banking apps, and

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01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: so now they look at it go, well, it's hard.

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01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 1: You know, they can't trace the you know, the serial

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01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: numbers of the bills anymore like they used to. It's

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01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: all crypto. And so now that gives them going, well,

1539
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,799
Speaker 1: if we can hold somebody for random some using crypto,

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01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: that could be a game changer for us, and there

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01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: are individuals trying that. I don't know if that's the

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01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: case with Nancy Guthrie, but the speculation that that is

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01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: the case. Who knows at this point, and so you

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01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: could see the pendulum start to swing the other way.

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01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: I don't think it will, simply because there's just so

1546
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: much attention and the FBAT told but we just simply

1547
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: don't negotiate. We don't give brands some money like we

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01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 1: used to. And that is the Canada with Patty Hurst,

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01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: for example, and that you know, it doesn't work out

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01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: well usually, as the case may be. I think what's interesting.

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01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: I talked to someone in law enforcement about this, not

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01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 1: on one with any direct knowledge of the case, and

1553
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: we chewed the fat for good twenty minutes about this,

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01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: and I thought it was really really interesting about what

1555
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 1: this individual thinks is going on that by now, at

1556
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: least in the first forty eight hours, you know, you

1557
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: could be hundreds and hundreds of miles away for sure.

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01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: So this is why you've got the border patrol involved,

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01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: because this is an Arizona and the border's a pretty

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01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,520
Speaker 1: close and so border patrol good. They have active air surveillance,

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01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: but they're also going to do some financial deep digging here.

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01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: So Savannah Guthrie makes like eight million dollars a year,

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01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,799
Speaker 1: she's worth tens of millions of dollars, And so instantly

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01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 1: you think of an abduction for ransom. In most cases,

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01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: in the fewer, maybe the growing number of ransom cases

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01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: we have, generally it involved, believe or not, children that

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01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: are being held for ransom. Now in this case, as

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01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: an elderly woman who needs your medication, and so the

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01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 1: thought is, well, this person may be an individual who

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01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: is close to her in the sense of knowing because

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01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 1: they knew the house, they knew what time she was

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01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 1: going to be home, she knew all these things about her.

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01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: They did break in obviously, and then the as you

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01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 1: mention the ransom note, if it is indeed a ransom note,

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01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: I don the police kind of describe that awkwardly. I'm

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01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 1: not quite sure what it means. I think they're not

1577
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: convinced it is indeed a ransom, And maybe a decoy

1578
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: is that if that individual has knowledge, because you know,

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01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: you're up against the clock with her medicine. She only

1580
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 1: has a limit amount of time she needs medicine to

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01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 1: keep her alive. The speculation is or they say, well,

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01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:58,799
Speaker 1: look at is does this person, because they have intimate

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01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: knowledge of Nancy Guthrie, do they have the medicine she

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01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: would need to survive. They left the medicine behind thinking

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01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: she doesn't have access to it, and that puts more

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01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: of a time constraint on meeting the person who is

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01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: holding yours demands, if that's indeed the case here. And

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01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: I thought that's interesting is if they knew then they

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01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: got her the medicine she needs, knowing what she's on,

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01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: they would leave the bottle behind and that would make

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01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: her think she doesn't have it when she actually does.

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01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: Which is a lot to think about if you're like

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01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 1: me or you. But now this is an investigators do

1594
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 1: all the time. Obviously, they have to locate the vehicle, shoes,

1595
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 1: transport in her car, her cell phone, her wallet, all

1596
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,799
Speaker 1: of that stuff was left back, keys, everything left behind.

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01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 1: She has mobility issues. She's sharp as attack mentally, but

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01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: mobility is a problem for her because she's eighty four

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01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 1: years old. So finding the you know, iiding the car.

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01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 1: We see that now with plate readers and everything else,

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01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:52,600
Speaker 1: and how they're rather quickly able to piece together the

1602
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: vehicle and get a tag and a hit on a tag.

1603
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 1: And it happens all the time that someone's out walking

1604
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: and they wind up, you know, spotting them getting vehicle

1605
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: and they want up now on them. The guy who's

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01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, the we just had a case of that

1607
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, and it was all done

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01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: by you know, cameras on poles somewhere. And I think,

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01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 1: you know, looking at this and talking to the individual

1610
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 1: I spoke to, I think it's interesting that, you know

1611
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 1: the timeline of this investigation. Someone almost had to know

1612
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: she was home alone, uh, and so who had access

1613
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: to her schedule? And you know, they're going to be

1614
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: looking at people in her church. They're going to be

1615
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 1: looking at relative speculation there maybe a relative involved in this,

1616
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 1: who who did service calls to her house or visitors deliveries,

1617
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and establishing whether or not that ransom

1618
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 1: communication is is that if it's a ransom note indeed,

1619
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: or it's a decoy, or maybe it's not even a

1620
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: ransom note at this point, so they're you know, hospitals

1621
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: all on the alert as well, and they're looking at

1622
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 1: cell phone data and all that stuff. The person I

1623
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 1: spoke to speculated now knowing what we know publicly had granted,

1624
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 1: the information that law enforcement has in Arizona is a

1625
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:57,640
Speaker 1: lot more detailed than we have, because, as you know,

1626
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 1: they only release certain things to the public, so there's

1627
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 1: a lot more information they're sitting on. They aid in

1628
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: their investigation, and knowing that, they said, well, there's higher likely,

1629
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: the most high likelihood at this point. Know, what we

1630
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: know is that it's a targeted a targeted abduction by

1631
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 1: a known individual. Because of that, you know there's forced entry,

1632
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: but limited forced entry. Knew her limitations and schedule and

1633
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: all those things as well, and so they would look

1634
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: at that first. And that's also now. Secondarily they're looking

1635
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: at less likely a financial motive for this thing because

1636
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 1: Savannah is high profile. She's had her mom on her show.

1637
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: I guess those around that area and Tucson know that

1638
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: she is Savannah Guthrie's mom because she's semi famous, and

1639
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: so you see that and go, oh, she makes this

1640
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 1: kind of money. I need money. If I'm going to

1641
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 1: hold someone ransom, it would be someone like this. Plus

1642
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: your elderly can't really fight back. That's why it tends

1643
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: to be children and elderly folks, and so you know,

1644
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 1: they also said, I think it's interesting too, that doesn't

1645
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: strike them as like a professional criminal who researched the

1646
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: target that much because of some of the mistakes that

1647
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: they made. No normally if it's I get you know,

1648
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 1: like like the the individuals who burgled Joe Burrow's house.

1649
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: I mean, hell, there was a cop out front, and

1650
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: they got in, they got out, knew exactly where they're going,

1651
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: what time of day, how to disabled everything, They did

1652
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 1: their research, they did their homework, still got caught. But

1653
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: according to them, this does not look like it is

1654
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 1: someone who like some sort of gang or organized activity,

1655
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: that they would be that good in getting this individual.

1656
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 1: And of course then there's a personal vendetta against Savannah Guthrie.

1657
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 4: In that.

1658
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: You know, journalists who make enemies, You have political extremists,

1659
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 1: you have people maybe upset by her anger, her interviewing

1660
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: she did interview with Trump, for example, that she did

1661
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 1: interviewed Biden. Maybe someone took that the wrong way and

1662
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: saw this as a personal vendetta against Savannah Guthrie. Although

1663
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: you know, you look at the nature of this whole thing,

1664
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 1: and why would you take someone, you know, if you're

1665
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,759
Speaker 1: gonna if you're gonna do harmon trying to ruin someone's

1666
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: life and make them hurt because you're so twisted you

1667
01:19:56,560 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 1: think that physical violence is the only way to save

1668
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: your reputation or get back at someone for reporting on something,

1669
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: which is absurd. But they're crazy people in the world,

1670
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: and if you look at it in that regard, and

1671
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: why why would you capture someone and take them as

1672
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: suppose to just killing them? And fortunately it's an abduction

1673
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: because there's still hope that this lady's alive. And then ultimately,

1674
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: finally it's like a crime of opportunity that you know,

1675
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: someone observed her scene and going in maybe made that connection.

1676
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: Could be local criminal activity, recent parolice and stuff like that.

1677
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 1: So the problem is there's so many, so many strategies

1678
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 1: and theories out there. And the sheriff said, this isn't

1679
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: a ransom, but there was a ransom note what to

1680
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: make of that, we don't know, but they get they

1681
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: would start with their social and church connections and someone

1682
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 1: that knows because she went to dinner and then I

1683
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 1: guess drop off and she was gone later that night.

1684
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: And again that's like a long period of time from

1685
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 1: the evening till the next morning or next afternoon I

1686
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: should say noon when she didn't show up to church

1687
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 1: when they figured, hey, something's going on here, and so

1688
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 1: she's been gone for a long time. Could be anywhere

1689
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 1: at this point. But it's such a fascinating story in

1690
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 1: my opinion, because hey, you often don't see this. You know,

1691
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 1: you see people being you know, children for example, being

1692
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 1: held against their world, people being abducted and held in

1693
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: a house somewhere as some sort of you know, weird

1694
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: sex slave or something like that. But abductions for ransom

1695
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: or in the appearance of ransom anywhere extremely rare in

1696
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 1: this country. Used to be fairly common, but not anymore,

1697
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 1: although they are making a resurgence for the reasons I mentioned.

1698
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 1: But it certainly is a gripping and interesting story and

1699
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: of a sad at the same time, because, like I said,

1700
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: the person who had interacted with Savannah Guthrie, she's a really,

1701
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: really nice lady. And even if they weren't, you know,

1702
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 1: you wouldn't wish to sign your worst enemy, because could

1703
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 1: you imagine getting a call that your mother has been abducted? Wait, what,

1704
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: your mother's missing and we think she's been abducted, you

1705
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: better get out to Arizona. That had to be and

1706
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 1: still is one of the worst things you could possibly hear,

1707
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,879
Speaker 1: because at eighty four, she's pretty frail and needs her medicine.

1708
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 1: And we have no idea yet what the endgame is here,

1709
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: but the speculation is running rampant, which, of course, as

1710
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 1: we deal in here on the show and on this

1711
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 1: radio station, it's simple speculation, but these are based in fact,

1712
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 1: and you wonder what was going through the mind of

1713
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 1: the individual or individuals that abducted her, and what is

1714
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: this they seek to gain by holding captive an eighty

1715
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 1: four old woman. I mean, financial gain comes to mind instantly.

1716
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 1: The second would be some sort of retribution because of

1717
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 1: what Savanah Guthrie does for her job. But the family,

1718
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: I guess, is heartbroken. So TMC is reporting a possible

1719
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 1: ransom note demanded millions of dollars in crypto at a

1720
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: verified bitcoin address. So this just broke just now as

1721
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 1: I was talking about this, and I was speculating that well,

1722
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: cryptocurrency bitcoin, it's much easier to do this today before,

1723
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 1: But the FBI is very, very good at what they do,

1724
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: and they are there to help. According to Keshptel, the

1725
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 1: FBI director, to help in this case. Now, if you're

1726
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 1: holding someone ransom and wanting crypto, that certainly does invoke

1727
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 1: the FBI here, and they're pretty good despite what we

1728
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: believe in how you know what justice looks like. FBI

1729
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 1: still pretty good at getting this stuff. Hopefully I find

1730
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: an answer here holding her hostage for some cryptocurrency. I

1731
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 1: just wonder how organized the group holding here is in

1732
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: that particular case. Anyway, So we got that going on

1733
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: today coming up in a few minutes. Here Sarah Lisa

1734
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,440
Speaker 1: is in and this is a snort report, I imagine

1735
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: because she is such a front runner we're going to

1736
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 1: talk about. We're going to talk about her all the

1737
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 1: modern Miami University and they remain undefeated. I think next up.

1738
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: I think they got Marshall next if I'm not mistaken,

1739
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 1: and not how many games they got left in the schedule.

1740
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 1: But it's awfully tough to go undefeated. So she's here

1741
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: talking about that. I'm sure some Joe Burrow Pro Bowl

1742
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 1: stuff in the mix as well. The Nicholas nickolasche was

1743
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 1: on My show yesterday at eleven oh seven at this

1744
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: time and dropped his song about wanting to the Bengals

1745
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 1: to sell the team, presumably to him, and he denied it.

1746
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 1: But I like, I don't know. You've got friends, you

1747
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: got investors, you know if you're in la you know

1748
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: sin you're famous like Nick Laay. You know people who

1749
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: got money. You got some money. But you pull all

1750
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 1: together by the team. Is it for sale? That's a question.

1751
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: So we'll talk to Sarah about that coming up in

1752
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 1: a few minutes. And of course the news that ah

1753
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 1: Suarez is back in a redg jersey is giving us

1754
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 1: some hope that one of our sports teams is going

1755
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: to be successful here and maybe that maybe fcfc's about

1756
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 1: registered the season too, But our hopes hang on our

1757
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 1: red legs and some degree FC coming up as they

1758
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:17,839
Speaker 1: kick off the season. By the way, pitchers and catchers

1759
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 1: reporting just days away. Despite what the weather's like outside,

1760
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,679
Speaker 1: the minute you hear Baseball Day Baseball on seven hundred

1761
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: WLW from Arizona, it feels like summer. Let's say it

1762
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: all on your mind, it all melts away, It all

1763
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 1: melts away. Early on the show, if you missed it,

1764
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: I had a couple of interesting guests. I had Ohhi

1765
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: representative Adam Bird on at ten o'clock, so you can

1766
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 1: catch out on the podcast, follow the show via the

1767
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app and downloaded for free. Or if you're listening

1768
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 1: to show right now and you're going somewhere, you can

1769
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: pop your earbuds in and take us with you. Regardless. Anyway,

1770
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 1: representative of Adam Bird out of Claremont County was on

1771
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 1: and proposing an NIL band for high school athletes in Ohio. Now,

1772
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: the Athletic Association just ruled and said, hey, listen, you

1773
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: know what, you can't fight city Hall. And you can't.

1774
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 1: It's awfully tough to go to war against the law

1775
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 1: because the law is ruling in favor of individuals or

1776
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: at least one kid who's an always you recruit that

1777
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 1: Hey listen, I want to make money off my namage

1778
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: of lightness, and I'll take you to court to get that.

1779
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 1: And so they acquiesced and said, okay, uncle, and now

1780
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: the legislator's look in this going, well, you know what,

1781
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,799
Speaker 1: we think it could destroy high school athletics, the sanctity

1782
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: of high school athletics, and it was present. Adam presented

1783
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: a great case. I thought in that his line of

1784
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: thinking is this is about protecting the institution of education

1785
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 1: of higher learning about amateur athletics and the like. And

1786
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 1: I think that it sounds good, it feels good, it

1787
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 1: feels right, But you know, at the end of the day,

1788
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,759
Speaker 1: I guess I have a problem overall with the state

1789
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 1: telling parents what to do with their kids. And I

1790
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: look at it going, well, if your kid is so

1791
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: exceptional that he or she is going to be offered

1792
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 1: not only a scholarship and hopefully, most likely if things

1793
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 1: play out the way they are, some sort of pro contract,

1794
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 1: why can't I capitalize that on now? And the idea

1795
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 1: here that the state knows more than the parents do.

1796
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 1: It's kind of a horn to me in that regard,

1797
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 1: like you can't prove a lot of harm being done

1798
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: by a kid taking money. Yeah, well they got to

1799
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,799
Speaker 1: get an agent, and then they got tax guys, And well,

1800
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: how many people who are adults right now go, well,

1801
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: that's a good problem to half, that's rich people problems.

1802
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 1: I got to get a tax account and an agent. Damn,

1803
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: I hate my life, said no one effort. So I

1804
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: don't know if the state is staying why the state

1805
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,839
Speaker 1: would be in the way of doing that to protect

1806
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 1: the children. And I always loath of people when they

1807
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 1: say it's about protecting the children. And I'd also contend

1808
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 1: that there are schools in our listing area right now

1809
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: that are doing the same thing under the radar and

1810
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 1: have been for a long time when it comes to

1811
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 1: bringing kids in from out of district or out of state,

1812
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 1: even because they're so exceptional at the sport that they play.

1813
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 1: And then of course taking you the boosters take care

1814
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,839
Speaker 1: of the parents, and there's housing and maybe some stipends

1815
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 1: and things like that. And directly, I say, if you're

1816
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:55,719
Speaker 1: going to do that, then you've got to go after

1817
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: that as well, because you are just creating the block

1818
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 1: market that we seek to fix in the first place.

1819
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:02,680
Speaker 1: Scott's Loan Show with News and five here we got

1820
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 1: snow moving and yet again seven hundred w.

1821
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 2: Yes smarted.

1822
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 1: Lots of sports today report. Thank you Sarah Lisa. You

1823
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: are from the kid Chrisha one of two seven e

1824
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: d and social media slash sports this midweek morning. How

1825
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 1: are you happy day? You are way extra today? What

1826
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: is going on?

1827
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:39,839
Speaker 6: I'm just really caffeinated and well rested.

1828
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 1: Holy cow, you are just coming. You're like eleven on

1829
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 1: a scale of nine.

1830
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 5: I know a lot of you old dudes around here

1831
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 5: are like on a scale of one to tend.

1832
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 1: Now that you're forty, you've joined.

1833
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 6: The not yet not yet twenty nine plus tax. Okay,

1834
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 6: take it easy.

1835
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 1: It's a lot of tax. You are in California.

1836
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 5: It's tax plus shipping and handling a few other things

1837
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 5: here and there, some tariff stuff going on.

1838
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 6: But excited about our Red Hawks Mi Alma Mater. Baby.

1839
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 6: They moved to twenty three and no after a big

1840
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 6: win last night.

1841
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 1: Win last night.

1842
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 6: It was a nail bier. They they they're going to.

1843
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: Have some nails and some luck to be perfect.

1844
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 6: And you know what, and that's okay.

1845
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 1: No one runs the table.

1846
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 5: If it means that you're going to be undefeated and

1847
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 5: a little bit of luck comes your way, than by

1848
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 5: all means how.

1849
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:27,759
Speaker 1: Many games left?

1850
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:31,600
Speaker 5: Ooh, a few, We've got a few. I don't have

1851
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 5: the schedule put up in front of me, but I knew.

1852
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 5: I know that they are back this Saturday. They're gonna

1853
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 5: be back on the road. Then they'll be back at

1854
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 5: home after that.

1855
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 6: I don't know. You have to pull up the sketch. Yes,

1856
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 6: it is seventy three to seventy one.

1857
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 5: Over Buffalo is the final. They are fired up, they

1858
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 5: are super fired up there and.

1859
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 1: They're losing their minds at Miami right now. Eight games.

1860
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 6: There are eight games, loft, that's a lot.

1861
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 5: They can do it, just keep winning and it's one

1862
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 5: game at a time. How do you eat an elephant.

1863
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: With a knife and fork?

1864
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 6: One bite at a time?

1865
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 1: Oh, one bite at a time? How do you eat

1866
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:05,799
Speaker 1: at that elephant?

1867
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 6: Anyways, they're at Marshal on Saturday if.

1868
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: You can there. Yeah, Marshall on Saturday. Okay, got it?

1869
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 6: And they are fourteen and eight should be another nail better?

1870
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 1: Well, you're a way too yep. Huntington's a tough place

1871
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 1: to play football, especially.

1872
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 5: And I believe that the RedHawks are twenty eight No

1873
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:24,879
Speaker 5: at Milette.

1874
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 6: How cool is that?

1875
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool? Nice? All right?

1876
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 6: So I was there on Saturday and I felt very old.

1877
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 1: Here's yeah, no kidding, right.

1878
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,799
Speaker 5: I hadn't been back to my college campus and quite

1879
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 5: some time. Went up to High Street and it was

1880
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 5: a bunch of kids running around like in onesies and

1881
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 5: drinking beer, and I was.

1882
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 6: Like, I really feel old?

1883
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,640
Speaker 1: Do you feel how how many years after graduation you

1884
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 1: go back to your alma mater? And you feel like

1885
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 1: a creep.

1886
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:54,640
Speaker 6: You go back for like alumni weekends.

1887
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 1: You feel like a creep.

1888
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 6: You don't just go just to go.

1889
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 5: But yeah, I did feel a little creepy, even though

1890
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 5: I was with people that are my age, and you know,

1891
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 5: it was alumni basketball weekend and there were plenty of

1892
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 5: other adults there. But watching all these kids running around,

1893
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my god, they.

1894
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 1: Look like, baby, you're the age you could have a kid.

1895
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 6: I could have a kid there. This is true. I

1896
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 6: could have a college kid, now, do.

1897
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 1: I if you know who the mother was?

1898
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 6: Absolutely not no kids for me ever, no things.

1899
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see no thank you.

1900
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 5: But yeah, I was giving back and you know, hitting

1901
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:27,759
Speaker 5: up skips and bricks situation.

1902
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 1: When you go back, you can go back to my

1903
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 1: alma mater. You go back to your alma mater. And

1904
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 1: it's like you go back like the first year after

1905
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 1: like still snows some people, right, and that's fine, and

1906
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 1: that's fine. But by the second or third year you

1907
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 1: go back and you go, man, I'm old. I mean,

1908
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 1: it happens quickly.

1909
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:46,639
Speaker 6: It really does. And they don't look like they're eighty.

1910
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,639
Speaker 5: I mean they looked like they were like thirteen, Like, man,

1911
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 5: these kids are looking younger than ever.

1912
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 1: Well, we're getting older faster.

1913
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 6: And I think that's what's going on.

1914
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 1: When I go there now, they hold doors open for.

1915
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 6: Me and stuff like their do you need a wheelchair?

1916
01:30:58,360 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 2: Are you?

1917
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 1: Are you here for the are you of the clinic?

1918
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 6: You're there for? Like nurse students?

1919
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 1: Did you go back like homecomings? Michelle and I met

1920
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 1: at BG. You went to Bowling Green.

1921
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, we played guys in the twentieth button and.

1922
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 1: So you know, you go back there and you feel

1923
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 1: that way. But it's funny when you go back when

1924
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 1: you went back, like or you're on campus, let's say, yeah,

1925
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: and they like a homecoming and you see like the

1926
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 1: class from nineteen fifty coming in. Wow, those people are

1927
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 1: really old. Oh huh, Now I'm that age. I'm like,

1928
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: damn okay, And.

1929
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 6: Time really does fly.

1930
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:30,680
Speaker 1: It's fun.

1931
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:32,879
Speaker 5: But it was really good to be back on campus

1932
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 5: and to be at the game. And I'd never seen

1933
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 5: a crowd that big at Malette before, No one has. They'

1934
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,799
Speaker 5: set a record of ten thousand and six forty Pretty

1935
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 5: cool stuff. I love what's happening in Oxford right now.

1936
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 1: If if the RedHawks lose what bandwagon you can jump

1937
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 1: on this.

1938
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 5: This is not a bandwagon when it's literally my college.

1939
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 1: I never talked about him before they go undefeated. That's

1940
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 1: front running.

1941
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 6: They had never been waiting like this before.

1942
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,839
Speaker 5: There's a reason why we're leading with the Reds, the Bangles,

1943
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:00,759
Speaker 5: and I know what you're.

1944
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 1: Gonna do if if and I'm not saying they are,

1945
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 1: but if Miami.

1946
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 6: Loses, which I'm sure that they will offenually.

1947
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 1: We're going right to the Reds.

1948
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 5: I guarantee well, we are going to go right to

1949
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 5: the rest right now because good vibes, baby es. He's

1950
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,759
Speaker 5: so back, and this is exactly what this team needed.

1951
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 5: He was the answer to all of our prayers. Now, granted,

1952
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 5: is he gonna how many runs is he gonna get?

1953
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1954
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 5: He got forty nine bombs last season. You come to

1955
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 5: great hot hitter, I don't know.

1956
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, because you get great hitters at GBP

1957
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 1: unless they're wearing the opposite uniform. Similarly, don't do well.

1958
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't know why that is. And it's been that

1959
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: way since Junior came here.

1960
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 5: I just here's my thing with Gino, Like I love

1961
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 5: his good vibes, and you know, I hope that he

1962
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 5: can bring all the bomb stats to GBP, Like that's

1963
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 5: really cool. But I wouldn't expect this guy to go

1964
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 5: like four or four every time a book.

1965
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 1: But you got the guys line can hit too, and

1966
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: maybe that takes the pressure off of Ellie and other guys.

1967
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 5: I think, Yeah, he is a perfect fit for this team.

1968
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 5: And he said, you know, it's good to be back here.

1969
01:32:58,080 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 5: This is where my wife and I had our baby

1970
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,640
Speaker 5: and got our family started. It feels like home. And

1971
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 5: Nick Krawl last night said, great clubhouse guy. Great guy

1972
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 5: with the vet.

1973
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 1: Element is very underrated too.

1974
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a vet.

1975
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 5: Now you come in and he's coming in at thirty

1976
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 5: four years old, and I think he's probably one of

1977
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 5: the older guys on.

1978
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 1: The team, working with ke Brian Hayes a little bit

1979
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 1: at the base and you know, spread it around and

1980
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:20,600
Speaker 1: be that guy, be the guy. And he doesn't have

1981
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:23,679
Speaker 1: You're right, he doesn't have to rake. You know, whole season.

1982
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 1: It's like somebody's got to.

1983
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 6: Hit someone, and I do think it will be I

1984
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 6: am so.

1985
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 1: And in credit to the Castellini's for going. Hey, listen,

1986
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:33,719
Speaker 1: you know what, the fans are not happy. We didn't

1987
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 1: sign Schwarbur anywhere else, and this is not the top

1988
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 1: let's face it. It's kind of like, you know, the

1989
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 1: best remaining hitter available. We waited until Yeah, and they

1990
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,520
Speaker 1: spent more money they planned, but they see an opportunity

1991
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 1: here and you know what, you've got to give the

1992
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: Reds credit for that.

1993
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 6: Totally worth it.

1994
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 5: And yeah, definitely a lot of credit to the Ruds,

1995
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 5: like this was a great move by them.

1996
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:52,639
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

1997
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 1: I pitching, you got the bullpen squared away, you've got depth,

1998
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 1: you got the outfields, like be exciting, let's go.

1999
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I do think that's wos. We'll get people

2000
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 5: in the seats that man.

2001
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:04,600
Speaker 1: Winning will get people this winning.

2002
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 6: Does ever fact look in Oxford ten six four zero.

2003
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 1: I went, hey, listen to fans, but reach Nation wasn't

2004
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 1: happy about this. We're gonna spend more money than we

2005
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 1: budgeted for because we think there's an opportunity here. And

2006
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 1: it was smart or smart with their money, but they

2007
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 1: listened to fans. I think a lot of that is

2008
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: driven by the anks the fans had we had about

2009
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 1: going in and so they listened unlike our football team.

2010
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 5: Well yeah, because I mean, were you excited about any

2011
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:27,839
Speaker 5: of our hitters this year, who were you most excited about?

2012
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:30,680
Speaker 5: Ellie we strike out, Spencer.

2013
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 1: Steer to be better than he was, and a couple

2014
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 1: of the guys.

2015
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 6: And Matt McLean can only get.

2016
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 1: Black and McLean is another one, right, I would hope

2017
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 1: for should get to figure it out. Yeah, but maybe

2018
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 1: this also takes pressure. So that good news for the Reds.

2019
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 1: I like that.

2020
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I know that the you know, the team,

2021
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 5: they're all excited about having their guide back, familiar face,

2022
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 5: and you know, the Red social team obviously very excited

2023
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 5: to be posting. I mean, they made twenty five posts

2024
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 5: about him yesterday and of course Gina reunited with his

2025
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 5: bestie Jim Day.

2026
01:34:57,880 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 6: I don't know if you saw that, but.

2027
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 1: It was cute, very cute.

2028
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,720
Speaker 6: Does Dave have the clip of that by chance? Their interaction?

2029
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 6: I would be impressed if Dave had that clip on hands.

2030
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 1: Not sure three two one he doesn't have in front

2031
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 1: of you ever. Mind what did what did gino saying.

2032
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 5: That he was like, oh Jim, good to see you again,

2033
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 5: and they just you know, hugged it out and just

2034
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 5: like old besties.

2035
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 1: See you again. Okay, there you go. There's a clip

2036
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 1: that's Yeah, that's what it sounded like.

2037
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 6: He was happy to see the snow.

2038
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 5: He's got his wife and his too, his two kiddos

2039
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 5: with him, so I'm all very very excited.

2040
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 1: He's really happy about this. Look at you, man, Wow,

2041
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 1: it's nice. What do you think of the snow on

2042
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 1: the field?

2043
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 2: Like, yes, happy time.

2044
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 1: That's cool.

2045
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 2: As happy as I am.

2046
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:00,680
Speaker 5: It's been a long time now. Jim Day has like

2047
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:01,839
Speaker 5: a really good interviewer.

2048
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 1: Gino's reaction was like, Jim Day, you're still alive.

2049
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 6: You have a job here.

2050
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 1: How the hell are you still employed? You're terrible. I

2051
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 1: love Jim he is the best suck you used to

2052
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 1: work here. Oh my god, you said it, not me. No,

2053
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 1: I love Jim Dave. If I didn't know Jim Day,

2054
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,679
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be breaking as chopped like that. That's funny.

2055
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 1: So anyway, that reaction and he in the clubhouse.

2056
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 6: I think I can't.

2057
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 1: You're right, I gotta laugh. I didn't even get a

2058
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 1: snort out of that. I need a snort.

2059
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 5: Come on, woman, I think, Gino, he will get seg

2060
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,679
Speaker 5: out of this place and back to the club house,

2061
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:56,639
Speaker 5: I really do.

2062
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 1: But he's back, so I go Tuesday. Thank you.

2063
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 6: She really brings them all up.

2064
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I bet I hope

2065
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 1: Jim does like one of the you know, the the

2066
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 1: ones that they used to fill the rain delays with.

2067
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 6: Oh you know that's coming.

2068
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,639
Speaker 1: I mean he's so good. I love that. I love

2069
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 1: that because it's you know, look forward to with rain delay.

2070
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 1: But you know there's gonna be content there.

2071
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 6: That's when you turn on l W and you those guys.

2072
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 1: Because he knows the backstories. No, no, I think he's

2073
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 1: still here. Do you think Jim Day is terrible? I've

2074
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 1: always enjoyed.

2075
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 5: Does all you bud so Wow Pitchers and Gadgets report

2076
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 5: next week to Goodyear and they've got their first game

2077
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 5: against the Guardians on the twenty first, and it was

2078
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 5: truck Day yesterday on their social page as well, So

2079
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 5: they got the truck all piled up with the gear

2080
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 5: and mister red Legs is driving the whole thing.

2081
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 6: If you see him on seven, when.

2082
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 1: Does the head come off? And the media op he's

2083
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 1: driving it? You're driving a big rig with a Oh my.

2084
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 6: God, do I have time for a quick head story?

2085
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 1: What thank you?

2086
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 6: When I was in Bristol.

2087
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:15,639
Speaker 1: That's not what I think you're going okay, well maybe

2088
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 1: it's going somewhere right.

2089
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 5: Well, you know, when I was in Bristol, let's go.

2090
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:21,719
Speaker 5: I've got a good head story. I was in Bristol

2091
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 5: last year and of course, you know, the rain was

2092
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 5: the name of the game, and I'm in this room,

2093
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 5: like the media room, and we're just you know, on lockdown,

2094
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 5: and somehow the mascots were locked in with us, you know,

2095
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:33,720
Speaker 5: like they can't go out and get the head, you know,

2096
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 5: wet and the outfit and everything. So like they're still

2097
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 5: in there as mascots and when they're in public, even

2098
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:40,719
Speaker 5: with just the media, they have.

2099
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:41,520
Speaker 6: To be performing.

2100
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, So like mister Red Legs and Rosie and Gaper

2101
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 5: and everybody, Like they're just sitting there with all these

2102
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 5: like very you know, serious media people and they're just

2103
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:53,719
Speaker 5: you know, waving and kind of playing batty cake and whatnot.

2104
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 5: I'm like, dude, you can take off the head like

2105
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 5: it's really okay, like we will not judge.

2106
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:02,160
Speaker 6: But no, they stayed in character. It's party. Yes, it's

2107
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 6: exactly like Mickey and Disney.

2108
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 1: You cannot take it off because you're scared of kids.

2109
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 6: That is my head story.

2110
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 5: I don't know what their heads in real life look

2111
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 5: like but they are baseballs in my world.

2112
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: You should see standing next to Gapper, like in the

2113
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 1: restroom and he has to keep the head on.

2114
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 6: They look over to each other.

2115
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean it's you can't see your but

2116
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:19,599
Speaker 1: he's bumping his head is like he's going he's flying

2117
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 1: blind against a journal because the face is pushing up

2118
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 1: against the wall. Just don't let the bats your equipment,

2119
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:27,680
Speaker 1: all right, So at least it's the smart report this

2120
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:30,600
Speaker 1: morning on seven hundred W. But she's just trashing for

2121
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 1: some reason.

2122
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 5: That is all you. But Joe Burrow real quick, if

2123
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 5: he's happy in Cincinnati, dun't dunt dun stop.

2124
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 3: Now.

2125
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:41,599
Speaker 5: We had Robin Burrow on not long ago to talk

2126
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 5: about the Marty Girl.

2127
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 6: And he's happy.

2128
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 5: He's playing with those guys t Higgins and Jamar Chase

2129
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 5: of course last night playing with them in the Pro Bowl.

2130
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Speaker 6: But yeah, Joe was asked if he's happy, and he goes, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I am.

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Speaker 5: I think you know everybody has bad days, right right,

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Speaker 5: he said sometimes they fall on press conference days, which

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Speaker 5: we've definitely seen some.

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Speaker 6: Bad days for Joe Burrow dealing with the press.

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Speaker 1: He wants to win and he goes.

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Speaker 6: So that's how it goes sometimes. All right, it was fine.

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Speaker 5: I don't think we need to look into this any further.

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Speaker 5: I don't think anyone should be worried about Joe Burrow

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Speaker 5: leaving Cincinnati time.

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Speaker 1: He knows who he plays for and what their commitment

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Speaker 1: is or isn't at this point, as we all do.

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Speaker 6: And what about our guy Nicholas Chef him?

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Speaker 1: Like the Pro Bowl? It talk about burying the Tuesday

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Speaker 1: night Pro Bowls?

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Speaker 5: Why are we burying the lead? Who cares about the

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Speaker 5: Pro Bowl? When Miami is undefeated and we have Gino back, it's.

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Speaker 6: Way more important.

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Speaker 1: You brought up Joe Burrow and he played last night

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Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I watched the intros. Then I saw Tee Higgins get

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Speaker 6: a touchdown. Then I go to bed. The thing stopped.

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Speaker 6: This thing started at like nine o'clock a night.

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Speaker 1: I though, I need to share how little this after

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Speaker 1: that it was, it looked like there was heldon's all,

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Speaker 1: like somebody's practice bubble in San Francisco. There's ten thousand,

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Speaker 1: not even there's like five thousand people.

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Speaker 6: There, maybe five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really realining, but I get it. It's

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Speaker 1: like they realized the Pro Bowl is not like it

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Speaker 1: can't you can't do it in the NFL. I turned

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Speaker 1: in the flag football is a good ad for their

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Speaker 1: flag football thing.

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Speaker 5: So this score was like fifty to forty. I mean

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Speaker 5: it was wild truly. It's yeah, guys, not ticket it. Seriously,

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Speaker 5: It's like, no.

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Speaker 6: Should you You shouldn't.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't want to get hurt because you know,

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Speaker 5: that's that's what we always worry about, especially seeing Joe

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Speaker 5: Flacco and Joe Burrow out there, like keep the QBS.

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Speaker 1: You have one more thing, the Nicolas thing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I heard your guy Nicholas on yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Not Happy. He's got that song out.

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Speaker 6: Fuel to fire Field. That song is way too it's

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Speaker 6: way too.

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Speaker 1: I said, it's more like baby naked music than it is.

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Speaker 6: A Yeah, he's got to like ramp it up, all right.

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Speaker 6: If we want to make this like a one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it shouldn't be like a r and it sounds

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Speaker 1: if it sounds, you know, the musical ability is great,

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Speaker 1: but it's like, man, it needs to be more like scream.

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Speaker 6: Oh but he's he's not. Yeah, he needs like a

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Speaker 6: slip Knot influence on this song.

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Speaker 5: Head.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I don't hearing screamo though I.

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Speaker 5: Don't think he has it really good to hear from Nikolache,

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Speaker 5: even though we shouldn't care about what he has to say.

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Speaker 5: I feel like he made really good, valid points and

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Speaker 5: he goes, look, I know that the Bengals will probably

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Speaker 5: never hear this, and I don't think they'll care if

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Speaker 5: they do hear about it, and he's like, but they

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Speaker 5: don't care about Cincinnati. That's pretty much everything that wraps

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Speaker 5: up with what he had to say, But we do.

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Speaker 1: Sarah especially cares about Cincinnati so much. She is leaning

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Speaker 1: into the Miami RedHawks and Oxford Scott Sloan show. She's

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Speaker 1: back on the Kid Christio tomorrow on one of two

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Speaker 1: seven EBN where she attacks where she attacks Jim Day

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Speaker 1: and probably other Reds broadcasters on that daily basis, Oh

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Speaker 1: you Willie is on the way next seven hundred ww