1 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: From WBZ News Radio in Boston. This is New England Weekend. 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Each week right here, we come together, we talk about 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: all the topics important to you and the place where 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: you live. Thanks for tuning in. This week, I'm Nicole Davis. 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: As we celebrate the nation's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: I've been doing the occasional segment in a series called 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: Revolutionary Roots. We're taking a closer look here at the stories, 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: local ties, the people, and the events all connecting Massachusetts 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: and New England to this pivotal moment in our history. 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: For this week, the series takes us to Dorchester. Now 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: picture it all these years ago in seventeen seventy six, 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: in March, Boston was a city under siege. It took 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: a pretty drastic move from the Revolutionaries the Patriots to 14 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: break that siege, send the British packing off to Nova Scotia, 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: and then push ahead the quest for independence. All that 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: played out on March seventeenth. What these days we now 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: know is Evacuation Day. Here in Massachuset, it's Revolution two 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: fifty as a group of local experts, organizations, and nonprofits 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: who've been putting on all these great special events to 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: mark the anniversary coming up on March seventeenth, they're doing 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: one in Dorchester for Evacuation Day. Here to tell us 22 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: all about that and a bit more about what exactly 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: Evacuation Day is is Jonathan Lane. He is the executive 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: director of Revolution two fifty and Jonathan, it's great to 25 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: have you with us. So before we kind of dig 26 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: a little deeper into Evacuation Day, get some education, give 27 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: us a rundown about Revolution two fifty and all the 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: work you all are doing there. 29 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: Sure. So, Revolution two fifty actually began back in twenty 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: fifteen when they commemorated the very first two hundred and 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: fiftieth anniversary event in the lead up to American Independence, 32 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: which was the dedication of the Liberty Tree in Boston 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: and really the formation of the Sons of Liberty, who 34 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: really become the heart and soul of what will eventually 35 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,919 Speaker 2: be the independence movement. But of course in seventeen sixty 36 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: five they're not really there. Revolution two fifty is a 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: consortium of organizations that have been working since twenty fifteen 38 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: on the two hundred and fiftieth. We are across the 39 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 2: Commonwealth and we have a couple of partners just over 40 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: various borders, and it's really a recognition of the role 41 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: that New Englanders had with Massachusetts at the core in 42 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: the run up to American independence. 43 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: It's really interesting to me how excited people are getting, 44 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: of course because again big birthday, but really there's just 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: so many educational opportunities and that I'm seeing pop up 46 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: all over the Commonwealth and people seem to really be 47 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: getting into this. 48 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: It really is amazing. So if you look at the 49 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: arc of programs that have occurred over the last let's 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: say ten years, you know, we all we have hit 51 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: all the hotspots. And you know, the very last event 52 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: we did before COVID was the Boston massacre two fiftieth 53 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: and then there was that long COVID period where we 54 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 2: really struggled to keep them amentum going, but using technology 55 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: like the podcasting. For instance, we started The Revolution two 56 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: fifty podcasts, which is hosted by Suffolk University professor Bob Allison, 57 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: and you know, we are now three almost three hundred 58 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: episodes into that podcast, and we've talked with scholars and 59 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: public historians and screenwriters all who have a story to 60 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: tell about their role in promoting this history. So it's 61 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: really been a fantastic arc and I agree with you. 62 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: As we get closer to twenty twenty six, the momentum 63 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: has built. You know, we did the two hundred and 64 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: fiftieth anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, and you know, 65 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: it had been commemorated almost annually prior to that, and 66 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: you get two three thousand people, and so we were 67 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: expecting four to six thousand people and we got over 68 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: fifteen thousand people at the event in a night in December. 69 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: And you know, a lot of attention was brought to 70 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: it because of you know, engaging with communities that were 71 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: the burial places of participants in the Tea Party. We 72 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: invited participants from around the world to send us tea 73 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 2: and we got over four thousand pounds of tea in 74 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: one and two ounce increments from what fourteen countries and 75 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: every state and territory in America. 76 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: That is incredible. That's a lot of tea. 77 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: It is well, but so four thousand pounds when we say, wow, 78 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: that's a lot of tea. But remember two hundred and 79 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 2: fifty years ago they dumped ninety six thousand, six hundred 80 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: and sixty pounds of tea into the four point Channel. 81 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: That part of the Boston Harbor area must have smelled 82 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: amazing for at least a couple of hours. Afterwards. I'm 83 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: literally icy. 84 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: Tea well with salt water. 85 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: But I mean I wouldn't drink it. I'm just saying 86 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: so ever. 87 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: Since then, you know, so it's not just the tea party, 88 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: it's not just Bunker Hill, it's not lexingon and conquer. 89 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: I mean, we did all of those things, but it's 90 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: also this two fiftieth is an opportunity to widen our 91 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: vista and help people understand the role of the indigenous 92 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: communities in America during this time period. You know, the 93 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: very first Indigenous person to die in the American Revolution 94 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: was killed at Bunker Hill, and he was a young 95 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: Connecticut Mohegan man who came up to Massachusetts with his 96 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: brother and some of his neighbors to support the patriot cause. 97 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: And similarly, there's more than fifteen hundred patriots of color 98 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: who served throughout the long eight year war of the 99 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: American Revolution from Massachusetts alone. And you know, so you 100 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: get to have these discussions of understanding that it's not 101 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: just about the big events, it's not just about Sam 102 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: Adams and John and Paul Revere. It's about average people, 103 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: ordinary people doing an extraordinary thing, and. 104 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: It's about them living lives that we in current day 105 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: may never be able to truly understand. I mean, Boston 106 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: for a time was a war zone, a literal war zone. 107 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: It was under siege. You had women acting as spies. 108 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: You had, like you said, patriots of color joining up 109 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: and fighting at a time when that was just unheard of, unspoken. 110 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: So I'm really grateful that all these stories are coming 111 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: to life because they all make up the American experience. 112 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And you know, let's not forget the 113 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: children out there. I mean, the youngest person at Bunker 114 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: Hill was ten years old. In the Arlington on April nineteen, 115 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: seventeen seventy five, a group of children managed to save 116 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: their house from destruction because they used the family's newly 117 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: brewed beer to put out a fire the British soldiers 118 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: had started. So there's all of these stories out there, 119 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: and it is very much a story of the people, right, 120 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: And that's what is particularly fascinating that as much as 121 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 2: we hold up certain individuals to be heroes, it really 122 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: is the stories of everyday lives and to the links 123 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: to which they would go to preserve their rights and liberties. 124 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: You know, John Adams said it best. He said, the 125 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: real revolution occurred before a drop of blood got spilled. 126 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: It was what occurred in the hearts and minds of 127 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: the people all across Massachusetts. And when you read the 128 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: town meeting records and you read the Committee of Correspondence records, 129 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: you really get a sense of how people across Massachusetts. 130 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: First of all, how deeply they understood their rights and 131 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: liberties under the English constitutional system, and two, how they 132 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: viewed their role in the British Empire. And three the 133 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: links to which they would go to preserve those rights 134 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: and liberties, not for themselves as much. They don't talk 135 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: about it in the sort of the first person. They 136 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: talk about securing these rights and liberties for their children 137 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: and their grandchildren. I mean, they were really very sort 138 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: of forward thinking people, which is Massachusetts to a te. 139 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's exactly it. I mean today I feel 140 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: like that is just us in a nutshell. There's all 141 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: that talk about, oh the whole country hates New England 142 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: and New England versus everybody. But I really do feel 143 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: that those are New England qualities Massachusetts qualities and even today. 144 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's so true, and quite frankly, it's one 145 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: of the things that you know, Revolution two fifty and 146 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: now m A two fifty, which is the State's office 147 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: for the two fifty, if you know, it's one of 148 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: the reasons that we spend so much time pushing and 149 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: promoting the work that we do to remind people, not 150 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: just in New England but across the nation that when 151 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: you get to the Declaration of Independence, when you get 152 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: to July fourth, seventeen seventy six, you only get there 153 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: because of what the people of Massachusetts did. 154 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Let's talk about Evacuation Day. March seventeenth is 155 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: often known as a whole other day. You know, Saint 156 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: Patrick's Day, got the parade and you know, people getting 157 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: drunk and all that stuff and whatever. That's great. It's 158 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: good to have a holiday for all those things. I 159 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: love March seventeenth because it's evacuation Day. And frequently I 160 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: have people saying, what's evacuation Day? And why is only 161 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: the City of Boston, like two other places off on 162 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: evacuation Day. Give us a little bit of the history, 163 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: if you could, about what exactly happened on March seventeenth, 164 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: all those years ago. 165 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 2: Sure, So March seventeenth, seventeen seventy six, the in the 166 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: months leading up to that, so everybody knows. April nineteenth, 167 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 2: the Siege of Boston begins, and Boston is ringed by 168 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: thirteen miles of fortifications and trenchments, and they're manned by, 169 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: given the time of year, anywhere between ten and sixteen 170 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: thousand soldiers, you know, provincial soldiers from New England and beyond. 171 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 2: The British Army is trapped in Boston. They can only 172 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: get supplied by ships at sea. But it's a stalemate 173 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: because the Massachusetts forces don't have cannons big enough to 174 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: drive the ships away, and the British Army don't have 175 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: enough men to come out and essentially break out and 176 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: subdue the provincial Army. So Washington comes to take command 177 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: in July of seventeen seventy five, and his first job 178 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: is to sort of figure out how to break the stalemate, 179 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: and they form the Continental Army. He meets Henry Knox, 180 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: a young twenty five year old bookseller from Boston, and 181 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: he's really impressed with Knox. Knox is a big imposing figure. 182 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: He's over six feet waist two twenty five, and you know, 183 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: he's obviously very intelligent and has a lot of book 184 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: learning that he's applied to some of the fortifications. And 185 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 2: Washington says, here's a man that I can send out 186 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: on an expedition. So he gives Knox essentially one thousand 187 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: dollars and says, go to Fort Taykonderga in New York, 188 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: which had just been captured, and bring me all the 189 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: heavy artillery you can. And so Knox and his brother 190 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: William go out to Fort Ticonderoga, and in the dead 191 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: of winter they pack up sixty tons of artillery. And 192 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: it's just the cannon tubes. There's no wheels, there's no gunpowder, 193 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: there's no shot. All of that will be supplied by 194 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: other means. But they essentially take eighty teams of horses 195 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: and put the cannon barrels on sleds and they drag 196 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: them from Fort Tekonderoga. They crossed the Hudson River twice. 197 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: They climb up through the Berkshire Mountains all the way 198 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 2: across the Housatonic and the Connecticut Rivers, all the way 199 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 2: to framing Ham, which they arrive in the middle of 200 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 2: January seventeen seventy six, the cannons are reassembled with all 201 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: their wooden and iron powers, and on the fourth of 202 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 2: March seventeen seventy six, General Washington is determined to build 203 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: a fortification on Dorchester Heights, which is the last high 204 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 2: ground that can oversee Boston. And in order to do 205 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: this they prefabricate a fort They use materials that are 206 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 2: called chandeliers, which are wooden frames like a timber frame, 207 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: like a like you would have built a house with 208 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty years ago. And they're filled with 209 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: tightly wrapped bundles of sticks called fascines, and they're about 210 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: anywhere from between three and four feet thick. And they 211 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: one night, twelve hundred men carry this entire fortification and 212 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 2: many of Knox's heavy guns up to the top of 213 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: Dorchester Heights and assemble it all. And the next day, 214 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: the fifth of March seventeen seventy six, George Washington rides 215 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: up to the fort and he says to the men 216 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: in the fortification, this is the sixth anniversary of the 217 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: Boston massacre, and I know you will not let the 218 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: British take this position, and you know, there were some 219 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: aboard of attempts by the British to both bombard and 220 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: potentially land troops, but they were frustrated by bad weather, 221 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: and on the seventeenth of March seventeen seventy six, General 222 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: Howe decided to evacuate more than essentially eleven thousand people, 223 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: So about seven thousand troops or so four thousand loyalist 224 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: families went with them, and they all decamped and went 225 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: to Halifax, Nova Scotia. And the importance of all of 226 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: this is that that is the moment that the people 227 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: of Massachusetts secured for themselves. They're independent because the British 228 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: Army never comes back. They have complete control over the 229 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: government and really the organization of Massachusetts. And so then 230 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: they saw it as their responsibility to go help out 231 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: the rest of the thirteen colonies. 232 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: Wow, what an amazing culture shift at the time, What 233 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: an amazing shift in the fight for independence. And I'm 234 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: sure that this spilled out into other colonies pretty quickly too. 235 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: People saw what happened in Boston. I feel like Evacuation 236 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: Day kind of lit a fire that had been smoldering 237 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: a bit, but really put the logs on the fire. 238 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: And fan the flames, to be sure. 239 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: And let's be honest. First of all, we could not 240 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: have done it without the aid and support of the 241 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: other colonies. Of course, so many states from Virginia north 242 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: actually sent soldiers to the Siege of Boston, So we 243 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: need to recognize that. We also need to recognize the 244 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: fact that you don't get to July fourth without evacuation day. No, 245 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: because it really showed the rest of the colonies that 246 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: not only was victory achieve but that it didn't result 247 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: in chaos and turmoil. The people of Massachusetts just returned 248 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: to their their natural state of governance. The town meetings 249 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: went on, the Provincial Congress sort of returns back to 250 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: the General Court, and they are in a state of war, 251 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: and the Constitution of Massachusetts hadn't been written yet, but 252 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: John Adams was working on that. So it really is 253 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: that moment that allowed independence to happen. 254 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: Wow, And we still celebrated all these years later, which 255 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: we should if you ask me, because again, this was 256 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: a major, major moment in Massachusetts history. And as we 257 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: look ahead to the two fifty celebration here, you've got 258 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: a whole huge event plan for this year. This is 259 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: going to be over at Dorchester Heights, there's the monument there. 260 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: Yes, they're going to have it open on evacuation I 261 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: think in my lifetime, but as a regular opportunity. But 262 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: people will be able to go into the monument and 263 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: climb to the cupola and see Boston at their feet. 264 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: That's going to be a gorgeous photo op for what 265 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: it's worth, even you know, history aside. I mean, we 266 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: rarely get to see that view. But I tell me 267 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: a little bit about what you've got planned for this 268 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: year for this epic celebration. 269 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: Sure, Look, it's really exciting. Obviously, the City of Boston, 270 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: Boston two fifty, they're involved, the National Parks, We've got 271 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: the Ancient and Honorable Artillery Company involved. There's so many 272 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: great opportunities. We're going to start the day as is 273 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: traditionally done at Saint Augustine's, which is the oldest Catholic 274 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: chapel in Massachusetts, and they do a little service there, 275 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: particularly for some of the early organizers of Evacuation Day, 276 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: going back to the nineteenth century. Then we'll do a procession. 277 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: We have a procession organized. It's going to be about 278 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: somewhere between three and four hundred people long, which we'll 279 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: focus on both modern military elements and honor guards. Will 280 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: also have some obviously lots of colonial participation with re enactors. 281 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: We've got George Washington and his staff coming to bless 282 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: the occasion as they did two hundred and fifty years ago, 283 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: and of course the very last element of the entire 284 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: procession will be Henry Knox's teams dragging the cannons up 285 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: to the top of Dorchester Heights, which we work course 286 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: we're really excited about. And then working with the National 287 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: Park Service. Of course they've invested a great deal of 288 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: time and effort on getting the monument refurbished in time. 289 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful restoration, meticulously done. So we're expecting participation 290 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 2: from a number of national National Park representatives in addition 291 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 2: to many of our local partners that we work with continuously. 292 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: And there's a whole commemorative program that is filled with 293 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: beautiful music and pageantry and opportunities for the public to 294 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: come and really touch history on this day, two hundred 295 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: and fifty years after we watched the British sale out 296 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: of Boston Harbor. 297 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: Wow, it's a once in a lifetime thing and kind 298 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: of extending on that really quick. You all have a 299 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: time capsule going on which I am super fascinated about. 300 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit what is in this time 301 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: capsule and what's going to happen during the ceremony. 302 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 2: I think they're still taking submissions for the time capsule, 303 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 2: so you'll see some you know a lot of organizations 304 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 2: that are particularly tied to South Boston. You know, the 305 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 2: South Boston Citizens Association really the keepers of this story 306 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 2: for generations now. They have been the ones hosting this 307 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: event and encouraging school children to get involved. And you know, 308 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: we can't express enough gratitude towards the work that they 309 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: have done and the work they continue to do up 310 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: to this day. So they're the ones who are really 311 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: worked on getting this time capsule built and established, and 312 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: they're taking submissions there. You know, I'm sure they'll be 313 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 2: challenge coins and modern coins that will be going into 314 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: all this as well as you know, they're gonna they 315 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: always do student contests for essays and posters, and those 316 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 2: will all be going into the time capsules. Well, I 317 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: think I think they're going to go in in a 318 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: digital format, so their chances of preservation are slightly greater. 319 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: Obviously that's the thing you think about most, but it's 320 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: really going to be representative of the community spirit of 321 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: South Boston and it's tied to this particular moment in history, 322 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: and so we're just excited to be part of it. 323 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm excited for you. And if people want to find out, 324 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, the particulars about the event, when, where, how 325 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: they can get tickets. If they need to get tickets, 326 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: where can they find out more information? 327 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no tickets for the day itself. There are 328 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 2: other events happening throughout the weekend which we encourage people 329 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: to take part in, so they can find the South 330 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 2: Boxing Citizens Association on Facebook. Revolution two fifty dot org 331 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 2: will have some data up there for the various events 332 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: that are going forward as well, and anybody can always 333 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: reach out to the City of Boston Boston two fifty 334 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 2: and they'll have a complete schedule as well. 335 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: Beautiful Jonathan, this is so cool. I'm really excited for 336 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: this event. Thanks for taking the time and for the 337 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: history listen too. 338 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: Thank you very much for the opportunity, and we hope 339 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: to see you and everyone else. 340 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: There have a safe and healthy weekend. Please join us 341 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: again next week. For another edition of the show. I'm 342 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: Nicole Davis from WBZ News Radio on iHeartRadio