WEBVTT - 3-27-27 Sloan with Ken Kober

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<v Speaker 1>Don't want to be an American. All right, Friday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>floading here seven hundred WLW, and not all the news

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<v Speaker 1>is good. Great day yesterday, Opening Day at the Holy

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<v Speaker 1>Grail with me and Moe and Tom Brenneman, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course with that all day, great game. Of course, the

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<v Speaker 1>outcome was not as as good as we'd like, with

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<v Speaker 1>a three nothing shut up by the Boston Red Sox.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course after the game is the big new story,

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<v Speaker 1>because all hell started breaking loose at the Banks right

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<v Speaker 1>around eight thirty or so. Opening Day turned into pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much an evening of fights downtown, not just at the Banks,

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<v Speaker 1>but downtown. And just think about it, we're not if

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<v Speaker 1>this is not even spring break yet. For crying out loud,

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<v Speaker 1>for CPS students on, this is FOP president Ken Kober

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<v Speaker 1>joining the show. Ken welcome, Hey, good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you, Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing fine. I thought CPS not until spring break

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<v Speaker 1>till next week. I mean, I'm looking at this thing going.

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<v Speaker 1>I was down there. It seemed like it was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge crowd mass that we expect when it's eighty degrees

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<v Speaker 1>in sunny, and it turns into this nonsense. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the big question everyone's mind this morning. Is it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>clear that Terry Siegs you should be fired for this, correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean certainly a theory. I guess you could

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<v Speaker 2>try to eat these somehow. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd be unbelievable that report came out in the

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<v Speaker 1>next couple of days. You know, it's a much bigger

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<v Speaker 1>problem than the chief I think. So let's start this.

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<v Speaker 1>You were tracking this in real time, started around eight thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Walk us through what your officers are dealing with, and

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<v Speaker 1>when it became clear this is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>serious situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it actually started much much earlier than that. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean as early as three three point thirty in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>they had a bunch of kids fighting in Washington Park,

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<v Speaker 2>able to get that kind of calm down, and then

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<v Speaker 2>by a little bit after seven, there were five six

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<v Speaker 2>hundred people at vying in Liberty Right and over the Rhine,

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<v Speaker 2>once again engaging in criminal behavior, fighting each other, just chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>And then that just truckled on and they made their

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<v Speaker 2>way south into small park in the Banks, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was just for them. We had, you know, bike officers

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<v Speaker 2>that were in their riot year, you know, to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that they're they're protected but it was something that

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<v Speaker 2>they were able to eventually get a handle of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I applaud the police for, you know, the work that

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<v Speaker 2>they did to take what was an absolute chaotic scene

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<v Speaker 2>and be able to do it with relatively you know,

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<v Speaker 2>minor injuries of anybody involved.

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<v Speaker 1>So the way you were it, Ken, was it like

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<v Speaker 1>the same large group of kids that were just going

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<v Speaker 1>from area to area You mentioned Washington Park and then

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<v Speaker 1>on the Smale and then the banks. Was it large

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<v Speaker 1>of the same people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it just your groups of four or

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred kids just out just trying to create chaos,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to disrupt any bit of normalcy, you know, between

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<v Speaker 2>over the Rhine and downtown and the banks. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course as we see or the banks you have closed

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<v Speaker 2>at eight thirty and the amount of money that businesses

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<v Speaker 2>are out of because parents don't want to be parents,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have a court system that just doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to hold kids accountable.

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<v Speaker 1>These are pretty much up under the age of eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much the entire group we're talking about here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, largely teenagers. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>The last April, the bank started their restrictions to anyone

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<v Speaker 1>that are twenty one and you had to be accompanied

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<v Speaker 1>by a parent after ten o'clock on the weekend. A curfew, though,

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<v Speaker 1>was lifted for opening day only, and the banks in

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<v Speaker 1>the city announced that saying, yeah, it's a special one

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<v Speaker 1>day kind of thing. Was that a mistake, you know?

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<v Speaker 2>I meanindsight it's always twenty twenty, you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you could argue that, you know, Metro being free yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>was a mistake. I mean, the sentiment was absolutely there,

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<v Speaker 2>give opportunity, Give people the opportunity to ride on a

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<v Speaker 2>bus instead of parking and dealing all these things. It

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<v Speaker 2>sounded great until you realize that your kids can come

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<v Speaker 2>from all over the city downtown together together to act foolish.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that happened following last summer was

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<v Speaker 1>that Metro said, hey, we're going to restrict access here,

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<v Speaker 1>so break no no free rides the kid. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>use your bus pass all over the place. You can

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<v Speaker 1>only use it to to and from school. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in Blue Ash with the fireworks up there,

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<v Speaker 1>Red Right and Blue Ash in some other areas as well,

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<v Speaker 1>that that seemed to stop all this. But it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hindsight is twenty twenty for sure, and you want everyone

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<v Speaker 1>to come down and have a good time. But I

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<v Speaker 1>guess in retrospect they saw that opportunity of going, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>free buses and we can go downtown with no curfew.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do this all over again. The curfew is largely

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<v Speaker 1>worked after last April, and we just undid it for

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<v Speaker 1>opening day. That's I guess somebody's gonna look at this

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<v Speaker 1>and go, wow, we really screwed this up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, and it's a shame. Yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>shame that you know, this entire day, I mean, what

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<v Speaker 2>a great day. The weather's beautiful, baseball's back in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course as soon as the game's over and

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<v Speaker 2>you have all this nonsense occurring, and it's just there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's no excuse for it. And until someone is held accountable,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's the parents, the kids, both, this is going

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<v Speaker 2>to continue. And like you said, we're we were just

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<v Speaker 2>in March. Just wait till June and July and August.

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<v Speaker 1>Come Ken Kober, president of the FOP, on with Scott's

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<v Speaker 1>loan this morning on seven hundred WLW. It's not like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we didn't prepare at all for this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was we had swat, we had extra patrols, bikes, undercover,

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<v Speaker 1>you had drones. I don't know if you could prepare

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<v Speaker 1>any better than we did for yesterday, and yet look

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. That's and I'm gonna sign with the summer

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<v Speaker 1>months coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, without a doubt. I mean, we were adequately staffed

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<v Speaker 2>for the event. We had all the resources that we needed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just when you have five hundred kids, pockets of

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred kids at a time, you know, running around

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<v Speaker 2>creating chaos, it just becomes very difficult to manage it.

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<v Speaker 2>I said. I applaud the officers for what they had

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<v Speaker 2>to endure and how they endured it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing is, it wasn't like we didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>enough officers either, as I mentioned all those teams, but

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<v Speaker 1>there are plenty of boots on the ground. From a

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<v Speaker 1>perspective of the offenders in this case, they just simply

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<v Speaker 1>not care. The police officers and in some cases officers

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<v Speaker 1>with tactical gearroun like the swats, they just simply don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they don't care because there's five hundred of them,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean, how many how many can you grab

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<v Speaker 2>at a time? You know only a couple are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be arrested, So the rest of them are just

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<v Speaker 2>going to take off running and then they just regroup

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<v Speaker 2>and they just continue to do the same thing over

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<v Speaker 2>and over.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of stuff were they doing? What were they

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<v Speaker 1>were they were they pretty much attacking other youth people

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<v Speaker 1>within their group. Was it just going after other individuals?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, primarily just I mean fighting in groups. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course they're opportunists, so you know, ether victims laying

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<v Speaker 2>there or victims walking down the street, and they can,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, take advantage of them real quick. They certainly have,

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<v Speaker 2>and there were some crimes that were actually reported, some weren't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just just chaos going on and it's absolute nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they hit you from behind and then then

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<v Speaker 1>run away. And reports also say that your officers ken

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<v Speaker 1>Cobe were sometimes unable to reach victims because the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>was preventing them from getting and undering aid to people

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<v Speaker 1>who have been struck.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean you have a victim in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of three or foreigner people, the police are

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get to them, and in the meantime, you

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<v Speaker 2>have these people trying to fight the police to get

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<v Speaker 2>the victims. So it's just the entire thing just showed

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<v Speaker 2>the lack of accountability that these kids have.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so kid gets hooked. Do you know how

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<v Speaker 1>many off top of your head, am I wrestler and

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<v Speaker 1>acted last night?

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're still counting them. I'm not sure. I

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<v Speaker 2>know the radio traffic that I heard last night, they

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<v Speaker 2>were asking for prisoner vans NonStop. But you know that'll

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<v Speaker 2>all shake out here in the next coming couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they show up to juvenile court and then what.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they were released last night. There's there's absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt. And you know a lot of these manned

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<v Speaker 2>up on an unofficial docket and just out of luck.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean the resistance and attacking, you know, armed police,

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<v Speaker 1>of uniform police officers and just random individuals out there.

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<v Speaker 1>We also had reports of civilians using chemical irritants and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe tasers on each other in those crowds as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It sound to me like they were coming there to disrupt,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially to cause violence. It wasn't like, you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we just got caught up in the moment. It sounded

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<v Speaker 1>like this was planned.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it was. This is just like what two

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<v Speaker 2>weekends ago we had it over at Glenway in Warsaw. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so it doesn't surprise me. These things, unfortunately, are going

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<v Speaker 2>to continue to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Juveniles are reportedly involved in fights, it's mail of a

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<v Speaker 1>front park, as you mentioned too, it's used violence in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a problem that you feel that the leadership

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<v Speaker 1>is not acknowledging.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, without a doubt, without a doubt, there's no acknowledgment

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<v Speaker 2>that it's going on. There's no acknowledgment that we have

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<v Speaker 2>to do something to hold these kids accountable as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they're just kids, they're just kids being kids, or well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they come from a bad background, so we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to punish them. And you know, the lack

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<v Speaker 2>of accountability that continues to build up. And now you

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<v Speaker 2>see here here's the end result, the culmination. And this

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<v Speaker 2>really started in twenty twenty during COVID when they decided,

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<v Speaker 2>how well we're going to shut down courts, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do this, We're gonna do that, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for the last six years you could just

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<v Speaker 2>see that it's building and building and building and just

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<v Speaker 2>certainly not getting any better.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we had the three takeovers recently of course

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<v Speaker 1>what happened last summer. The Robling Bridge had to be

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<v Speaker 1>shut down last night because of this Fountain Square oats

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<v Speaker 1>you are the Banks, Melvver Hunt Park, pretty much city wide,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a steady drum beat that Cincinnati is not

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<v Speaker 1>safe on major event nights. And my heart breaks for

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people like Jim Marrying at the Holy Girl

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<v Speaker 1>Banks and other entrepreneurs down there because it was a

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<v Speaker 1>long cold winter. Don't have a lot of foot traffic

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<v Speaker 1>down there. People didn't want to go out because so

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<v Speaker 1>damn cold, was an ugly, ugly winter. And then this

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<v Speaker 1>chance to maybe get in the red a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>here too, and what winds up happened or out of

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<v Speaker 1>the red, I guess I should say to the black

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<v Speaker 1>and what happens is this, and it shuts down while

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<v Speaker 1>beer sales and everyone having a good time simply because

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<v Speaker 1>of a pack of feral kids. And it scares me

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<v Speaker 1>because the message continues to be sent to people like

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<v Speaker 1>me and suburbs is you don't want to go downtown

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<v Speaker 1>because it's dangerous. At some point the business community is

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<v Speaker 1>going to go enough of this nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, that's that's the sad part, you know, these

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<v Speaker 2>kids think this is all fun and game. The lack

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<v Speaker 2>of accountability is all it's just is what it is

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<v Speaker 2>until it starts affecting Cincinnati economically, you know. And unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to get bad and they're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to recover from it, or it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>take years and years to recover from And it's not

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<v Speaker 2>fair to businesses that are down here. They're just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make a living, you know, trying to have a

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<v Speaker 2>safe place for people to go and enjoy themselves, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and then get caught up in this at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the night. Just it's a bad, bad thing for Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>Does everything else can be done outside of the It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem like the judges are going to be accountable

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<v Speaker 1>anytime soon. We had that report come out that said

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<v Speaker 1>from city residents that worry about the dan potholes and

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<v Speaker 1>worry about the crime as opposed to other things, that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a disconnect between alleged leadership of this city and

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<v Speaker 1>what the residents want, and now you have more and

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<v Speaker 1>more violent crime happening. Things like this are going to

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<v Speaker 1>just wait people from coming downtown, going to Reds games,

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<v Speaker 1>eventually Bengals games, young people still continue to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, but you need those people from outside the

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<v Speaker 1>city to spend money in Hamlin County because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>really lifts a ship. If we're missing the boat on

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<v Speaker 1>that one, You're right. I think we're going to see

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<v Speaker 1>a decline in downtown, which is sad because of how

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<v Speaker 1>much time and effort and money we've invested in its renaissance.

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<v Speaker 1>And something's got to give here at this point. If

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<v Speaker 1>you get to waive your magic wandcan Coober president the FOP,

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<v Speaker 1>what would that be?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I'm looking forward to see what city

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<v Speaker 2>leadership has to say today, and today's the day that

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<v Speaker 2>they have a great opportunity to put their foot down,

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<v Speaker 2>take a stance and say publicly that we're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to tolerate this. We want judges to hold these kids accountable.

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<v Speaker 2>We want judges to hold any criminal in this city

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<v Speaker 2>or this county accountable. That could be the first step

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<v Speaker 2>to actually turning this around.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that'll happen? Do you think sure Along

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<v Speaker 1>or may or have to add Pureval does a press

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<v Speaker 1>conference or at least issues a statement.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll see. I mean I want to see if

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<v Speaker 2>they put something out at all, that's gonna be the

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<v Speaker 2>first step. Well, Andy, who knows. I mean, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I mean it is Friday, so you know generally

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to make big news cycles. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>something on Friday. It's a gesture, I suppose. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just wonder how many you know, panels and how much

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<v Speaker 1>money we're going to take and give to affected groups

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<v Speaker 1>to try and curb this kind of behavior. And we've

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<v Speaker 1>got to spend money, we need resources in mind. What

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<v Speaker 1>you need to do is start locking people up and

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<v Speaker 1>setting an example and saying, listen, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>tolerate this anymore. You know when I keep getting back

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<v Speaker 1>to it. But I think it's part and parcel WL

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about. You know, when you have someone cut

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<v Speaker 1>an ankle, monitor off and go commit crimes, you have

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity the minute that's cut off to determine who

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<v Speaker 1>that is. And we don't even look at the data

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<v Speaker 1>because we're so overwhelmed, maybe understaffed, but it's not a priority.

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<v Speaker 1>If that sends a message, I think that trickles down

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<v Speaker 1>to young people going, well, they don't care about us.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a juvenile to get a slap on the wrist

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<v Speaker 1>oh or might have to write a book report. But

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<v Speaker 1>I can go and run rampant and be fairal all

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<v Speaker 1>over the city and disrupt things because I get some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of perverse thrill.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I get being young and you know, being disruptive,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know we tp stuff. We weren't going randomly

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<v Speaker 1>punching and pepper spraying people downtown. Are there for a

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<v Speaker 1>Reds game and if a cop came along, you'd run.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they run at the cops.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, these kids

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<v Speaker 2>are out of control, and you know, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I guarantee you it's going to get worse before it

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<v Speaker 2>gets better. And that's that's the sad part.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you expect this summer? When you talk to officers,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your greatest fear.

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<v Speaker 2>The greatest fear is that they're going to encounter one

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<v Speaker 2>of these kids with a gun that's going to point

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<v Speaker 2>it at a policeman and they're en end up killing

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<v Speaker 2>a kid. That is by far the biggest fear. Without

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<v Speaker 2>a doubt. You know, they'll deal with these kids out acting,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, unruly and you're just committing criminal behaviors. What

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<v Speaker 2>this is disorderly conduct, all of these things. But the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest fear is that one's going to be armed.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the other thing is our culture can and

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<v Speaker 1>you've noticed his shift as well as it's become a

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<v Speaker 1>society of zero accountabile. I've always kind of talked about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But a case in point of the Hinton family. We

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<v Speaker 1>know what the Hinton family is about, and yet they

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<v Speaker 1>are suing the city for wrongful death and death of

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Hinton, who pointed a gun at police officers last year.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't get any more ballsy than that. And now

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<v Speaker 1>we have young people, kids that are attacking police officers

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<v Speaker 1>and expecting that somehow that's okay. It is a bizarre

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<v Speaker 1>world in what you lived, and we kind of fell

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<v Speaker 1>off a cliff societally speaking, I think, and that's really

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<v Speaker 1>what we're fighting here. You know, we could talk about

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<v Speaker 1>judges and rules and laws and law enforcement all that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess the model for a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>young people is like, if it feels good, do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and if someone tells you to stop, that should be

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<v Speaker 1>offensive to you and you should take up arms with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Or whether it's a police officer, a judge, an older person, whomever,

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<v Speaker 1>they're standing in your way of a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>No, without a doubt. I mean, it's just it's become

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<v Speaker 2>a societal problem and I don't know how you fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't either, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It certainly it needs to be fixed pretty darn soon

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<v Speaker 2>before you know, we start seeing they said the negative

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<v Speaker 2>effects of Cincinnati people not coming down here. Wouldn't blame them. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>it's got to be fixed and six quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>No question. All right, Ken, I know you got to

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<v Speaker 1>get going. I'm sure we'll hear it back on later

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<v Speaker 1>today as well with an update on this whole situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully someone down at city Hall is paying attention and

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<v Speaker 1>addresses this issue. But Ken Kober, president of the FFP,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks as always for jumping on this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, thanks thanks for having me here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, sir, be well. Update coming up in the just

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<v Speaker 1>minutes full news update. Sadly Red's lows and even more

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<v Speaker 1>sad what just happened last night at the banks because

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<v Speaker 1>we were down there broadcasting The line was great, absolutely packed,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful day and marred by this nonsense. Welcome to Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel so badly for the businesses too, because

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<v Speaker 1>they've invested so much, lost so much over the cold

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<v Speaker 1>winter months and for everything to get shut down at

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<v Speaker 1>eight thirty on opening opening evening. I guess I should

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<v Speaker 1>say it's just it's terrible, and we'll see what happens

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<v Speaker 1>with crowds and everything else this summer. Scott's Loan Show,

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred Widioth