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Speaker 2: My name is Brian Thomas, I host the fifty five

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Speaker 2: KRSEE Morning Show. Appreciate you tuning in this morning, and

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Speaker 2: Fun fact Joe, Thanks executive producer, Internet research guru Are

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Speaker 2: and great guy Joe Strecker coming up with fifty five

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Speaker 2: Carssey Morning Show. Thanks for the rundown, Joe. Big Picture

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Speaker 2: with Jack Keather and every Wednesday at seven oh five

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Speaker 2: is anything incorruptible?

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Speaker 1: How about no.

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Speaker 2: Jack will dive in deep on that one? Coming up

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Speaker 2: at seven oh five, as is typically the case after

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Speaker 2: Jack Avid in Donovan a deal from Americans Per Prosperity

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Speaker 2: senior advisor there AFP Action. We got an affordability agenda.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I ran into affordability agenda yesterday. Five dollars

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Speaker 2: for gasoline. Yeah, I know, I pump for you might

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Speaker 2: I understand that it's going to be more expensive than

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Speaker 2: regular regulars up like a buck four dollars at a

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Speaker 2: lot of tristy locations, as has been reported locally. Checkout

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Speaker 2: gas buddy. Now there are places that still have it

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Speaker 2: let's see Fox nineteen reporting you've got four dollars most

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Speaker 2: places gas Buddy four dollars and nine cents in Clifton

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Speaker 2: You'd probably go to that place on Camarket, Joe, we

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Speaker 2: should check out that place our Camargo, But it's like

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Speaker 2: They found as the last even three dollars and twenty

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Speaker 2: currently three dollars and ninety eight cents. Again according to

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Speaker 2: probably beyond that four dollars and ninety nine cents yesterday

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Speaker 2: of Kenwood yesterday got shocked me so. But anyway, that

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Speaker 2: going back to Donald and Neil affordability agenda groceries, we

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Speaker 2: will talk about groceries because grocery inflation obviously in the

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Speaker 2: indicative of a broader economic problem we got going on,

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Speaker 2: and brace yourself for it, widely unpopular, as we'll talk

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Speaker 2: about this morning. The go war that's going on right

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Speaker 2: now going to have a profound impact on food prices

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Speaker 2: and global starvation has been commented on regularly by the

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Speaker 2: plundits out there because just so much fertilizer is manufactured

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Speaker 2: in the area and must go through the strade of

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Speaker 2: horn Moves, which of course is currently on mostly shut down.

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Speaker 2: So I'm thinking it could get worse. We'll get AFPs

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Speaker 2: stodded into a common affordability across the board that at

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Speaker 2: empower you some of our Tom Haggittorn is going to

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Speaker 2: be diving into the update on socialist effort to change America. Hmm,

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Speaker 2: he said, Well, over one hundred years ago, socialist thinkers

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Speaker 2: developed an extensive plan aimed at gaining control over the

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Speaker 2: major institutions of Western society. Well, they sure succeeded with

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Speaker 2: our education institutions, haven't they. That frightening. Frightening statistic from

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Speaker 2: the poll that was done on young people say the

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Speaker 2: twenty to twenty nine year olds embracing socialism and have

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Speaker 2: a positive perception of socialism relative to capitalism. That's a

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Speaker 2: growing phenomenon. Of course, there's your education system in doctrinating

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Speaker 2: our children into something that is obviously a train wreck

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Speaker 2: of a political philosophy. See the history of the world. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: said a central component of the strategy education system, spanning

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Speaker 2: and influence societal norms and values. Yep, it's an indoctrination

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Speaker 2: of It's like global warming. The experts say this is fact,

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Speaker 2: college education. No, socialism is better capitalism evil er. They

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Speaker 2: Capitalism? Yeah, and amid all the things that we are

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Speaker 2: because those evil capitalists in the United States of America

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Speaker 2: all of Western Europe for the past number of decades,

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Speaker 2: relieving them of their obligations so they can pursue their

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Speaker 2: socialist agenda. Why because we paid for their military we did,

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Speaker 2: and say we went about sanctions tariffs rather you know,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, they have an inflationary Okay, fine, but

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Speaker 1: You see that.

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Speaker 2: You know, we were paying a lot of money in

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Speaker 2: struggling to dig in with the same sort of reciprocal tariffs.

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Speaker 2: That is, our money benefiting them, so they can go

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Speaker 2: on their married socialists way and make it look like

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Speaker 2: it works. And I move over to Cube again. I

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Speaker 2: commented on this yesterday. You know, oh my god, Cuba

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Speaker 2: of course a lot of corruption. It's a proof that

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Speaker 2: that system of government, call it socialism, call it communism,

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Speaker 2: doesn't work. Well, that's because you sanctioned them and cut

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Speaker 2: them off. Well, the rest of the world's free to

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Speaker 2: trade with them if they want. We have our own policies,

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Speaker 2: along with them. Much to distegranted with Cubans, most of

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Speaker 2: the world and our economic partners tend to side with

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Speaker 2: the United States. Why evil capitalism makes them more money? Hm,

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Speaker 2: Margaret Thatcher, you know, eventually the problem of socialism and

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Speaker 2: you run out of other people's money. The other people's

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Speaker 2: it's all built on this perception that it's okay, it's justified,

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Speaker 2: moral appropriate to take the property, slash money of some

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Speaker 2: this in terms of the death text, just because you die,

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Speaker 2: they can come in, the government can come in and

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Speaker 2: ownership and private property and wealth accumulation. It is the

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Speaker 2: plans to where that money is going to be distributed.

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Speaker 2: After you pass. That's called a will right. You can

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Speaker 2: put it in a trust. It's your right. And yet

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Speaker 2: for whatever reason, it's just it's not even an argument

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Speaker 2: is raised about the immorality of just the government coming

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Speaker 2: in and grabbing a sizable chunk just because well, pick

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Speaker 2: get to take more over. Oh, if you if you

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Speaker 2: then we're coming in and taking seventy five percent of it.

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Speaker 2: Why present a moral justification for that, and don't tell me, well,

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Speaker 2: it's because we need more revenue and govern because we

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Speaker 2: need to fund these government programs, which another road I

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Speaker 2: how effective of these programs been. How much effort have

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Speaker 2: the American people. You've taken the money from us over

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Speaker 2: our objections perhaps, and you haven't done a wits worth

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Speaker 2: a better return on investment. Like starting out with the

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Speaker 2: idea that you can't engage in fraud, wasted abuse, and

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Speaker 2: putting up impediments to be having that happen. So no

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Speaker 2: moral justification to taking the money, and then no ability

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Speaker 2: to defend the programs because we all know that they

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Speaker 2: have not been successful. See the past number of decades,

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Speaker 2: going back to let's say Great Society programs. You know,

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Speaker 2: they're all supposed to end poverty as we know it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's going to happen. No, no, no, it hasn't. Trillions

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Speaker 2: The number of people on social welfare has only increased. Well,

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Speaker 2: Oh we've created another little government dependent socialist person who

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Speaker 2: and I'll even interject able bodied individuals of working age

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Speaker 2: Isn't that the right and appropriate thing to do, since

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Speaker 2: the justification for those programs was based on a temporary

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Speaker 2: they start participating in a capitalist environment and earning for themselves,

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Speaker 2: and along with earning for themselves, earning the right to

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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: My friend Steve's comment in the price of gasoline in

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Speaker 2: the Greater Cincinnati area, which, obviously, like the rest of

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Speaker 2: the nation has gone up substantially. At least we're not

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Speaker 2: in Munich. Joe, what do you think the gasoline price

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Speaker 2: for gallon is in Munich? Ten euros? Well even pretty close?

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Speaker 2: I guess I can't rememberho the exchange rate is right

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Speaker 2: now in Europe follow that eight dollars and seven cents

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Speaker 4: Good morning, sir. Sounds sounds like you're on a little

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Speaker 2: to make it bigger, A different strokes for different folks. Gomez,

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Speaker 2: not licensed to perform medical procedures, administered several injections before

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Speaker 2: gore Khani, who was thirty four, started experiencing complications. Notably,

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Speaker 2: and she's a social media influence. I forgot to mention

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Speaker 2: gore Khani, the butt injection recipient is a Kim Kardashian

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Speaker 2: lookalike or was again?

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Speaker 1: Why anyway?

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Speaker 2: Gore Khani, also known as Ashton g went to cardiac

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Speaker 2: arrestor in the procedure. And here's where you really run

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Speaker 2: off the road at a Bay Area hotel room.

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Speaker 1: Red flag.

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Speaker 2: If you're a purported doctor wants to do an butt

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Speaker 2: injection surgery in a hotel room, I think you're going

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Speaker 2: down a bad road. If history is any dictation here,

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Speaker 2: you are Joe. She died the next day from respiratory

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Speaker 2: failure and pulmonary embolism at the hospital. Police arrested Gomez

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Speaker 2: hours later at Fort Lauderdale Airport, where she was extraded

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Speaker 2: to California to await trial. Gomez, who'd remained free until

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Speaker 2: the trial, is going to stay behind bars until her

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Speaker 2: sentencing hearing, which is May fifth. She could go to

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Speaker 2: prison up to seven years if convicted. Gurkhana's family detailed

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Speaker 2: the online fundraiser. They received the tragic phone call from

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Speaker 2: a family member who's frantically screaming and crying hysterically that

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Speaker 2: Ashton was dying. The viral Kim Kardashian lookalike quote was

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Speaker 2: such a caring and loving free spirit and always took

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Speaker 2: time to bring a smile to anyone's face. She crossed

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Speaker 2: paths with okay, cautionary tale, don't do it. Something else

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Speaker 2: you don't do. Federal agents arrested a Coral Springs, Florida

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Speaker 2: man over the weekend after they said he tried to

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Speaker 2: meet with someone who he thought was a fifteen year

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Speaker 2: old boy for the purposes of sexually abusing him, namely

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Speaker 2: paying him to record foot fetish videos with him in

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Speaker 2: which he would sell at which he would then sell online.

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Speaker 2: There's no flag for us, apparently not.

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Speaker 1: Joe.

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Speaker 2: Federal criminal complaint at THEI described the disturbing trial of

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Speaker 2: sex abuse allegations against this guy. William mc gangler, twenty

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Speaker 2: five years old, dating back to whet when he himself

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Speaker 2: was a teenager. Flight begins by describing a report the

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Speaker 2: a twenty one year old man made a law enforcement

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Speaker 2: March fifth Corner to the FBI. Told investigators that when

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Speaker 2: he was twelve or thirteen years old, he was the

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Speaker 2: victim of an online predator who were sending him money

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Speaker 2: to record sexual content. Complaint says that the man told

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Speaker 2: investigators several online users asked to meet him in person,

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Speaker 2: but he only met one, William Gangler.

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Speaker 1: Dates.

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Speaker 2: Gangler offered the boy money to meet and produce videos

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Speaker 2: involving his feet, paying him six hundred dollars at one point,

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Speaker 2: and offer him a percentage of profits made from sales

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Speaker 2: of the child sexual abuse videos online. Boy said he

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Speaker 2: never received any additional money, according to the FBI. Agents

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Speaker 2: Doug further found a Coral Springs police report from twenty

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Speaker 2: seventeen in which is ganglar pervert, then sixteen year old

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Speaker 2: was accused of doing this is quotes doing sexual things

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Speaker 2: close quote to a seven year old boy since the

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Speaker 2: boy was four years old, and seeking foot pictures from

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Speaker 2: a twelve year old girl. Blake says that agents found

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Speaker 2: a second Choral Springs police report from twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: another person report of the Gangler was quote paying a

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Speaker 2: friend close quality record sexual videos. He reached out to

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Speaker 2: her on snapjacks seeking the same they undercovered of twenty

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Speaker 2: nineteen tip from Instagram the Gangler was sharing child sexual

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Speaker 2: abuse content on his platform. This guy goes way back,

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Speaker 2: doesn't he. Undercover agent have been communicating with Gangler since

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Speaker 2: March sixth. Gangler, Thorty said, was selling child sexual abuse content,

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Speaker 2: including at least one video that appeared to be that

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Speaker 2: if he appeared to be in abusing your girl. Undercover

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Speaker 2: agents then began communicating with Gangler online, posing as a

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Speaker 2: fifteen year old boy, seeking to meet with him to

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Speaker 2: record sexual videos, including of course foot fetish content. You'd

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Speaker 2: be making the videos with mel, then I'll help you

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Speaker 2: sell them. Gangler accused of telling the child well which

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Speaker 2: he was an agent. I love that agents posing his

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Speaker 2: children in order to grab these guys. Listen, if you're

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Speaker 2: out there, you're one of these guys. You're a pervert.

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Speaker 2: You want to molest children. Every time you're out there,

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Speaker 2: you're talking to an FBI agent that fester in the

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Speaker 2: back of your perverted mind. Five forty five fifty five

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Speaker 2: and thank you Timothy. He's hilarious. Going back to the

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Speaker 2: hotel room butt injection leading to a woman dying because

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Speaker 2: you can't do that, Stopigia. He sent me a link

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Speaker 2: to Wikipedia Cito paigia because I had a problem with

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Speaker 2: why would you want a bigger butt anyway? Described as

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Speaker 2: a state of having a substantial level of tissue on

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Speaker 2: the buttocks an thighs leading to a protruding ninety degree

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Speaker 2: angled appearance and a company by Lordosis, which is exactly

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Speaker 2: what the woman in the picture looks like. The late

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Speaker 2: woman who got the butt injection because apparently the butt

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Speaker 2: was not big enough and real quick mind me Jared

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Speaker 2: by bear with me Jay, because apparently feet are a

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Speaker 2: real thing here and I don't get it. I wrote

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Speaker 2: on the top of this article. You pay for this.

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Speaker 2: Deputy Brandy Tenlin, she was a twenty one She has

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Speaker 2: a twenty one year former law enforcement employee in Palm

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Speaker 2: Beach County courthouse credit and managed an account on a

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Speaker 2: subscription based platform. You pay for this it's called feetfinder

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Speaker 2: dot com. Hey Joe, check it out. There is a flag.

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Speaker 2: She sold photos and videos centered on foot fetish content,

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Speaker 2: hundreds of images and dozens of videos, some of which

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Speaker 2: included sexually suggestive or explicit acts on her account, in

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Speaker 2: one where she actually wore her law enforcement uniform, so

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Speaker 2: she wore lingerie martial arts uniforms. Other closed perform erotic

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Speaker 2: poses not nude in the discovered pictures or videos that

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Speaker 2: were at issue here, the post showed her feet only.

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Speaker 1: You pay for this.

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Speaker 2: She showed her feet at the beach, riding a bike,

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Speaker 2: crushing different items like fruit toys. Several videos they were

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Speaker 2: crushing live crickets with her bare feet, cuckoo for cocoa puffs,

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Speaker 2: and then they played the most serious one of all,

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Speaker 2: the video in which she appeared wearing parts of her

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Speaker 2: official uniform while removing boots, seeing her socks were moist

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Speaker 2: and referencing her profession.

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Speaker 1: Weirdo.

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Speaker 2: And apparently she openly discussed this with her fellow law

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Speaker 2: enforcement officers and even showed them some of her feet videos.

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Speaker 2: So she didn't deny it, but she ultimately did acknowledge

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Speaker 2: in a sworn statement that she did create the account.

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Speaker 2: She did earn money from it, jocking meat to no end.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you build it, they apparently will come.

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Speaker 1: Crazy.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was waiting for. Joe Jay, Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the Morning Show. Thanks for calling today.

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Speaker 3: Thank good morning.

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Speaker 5: Brian listening from Providence, Rhode Island on iHeartMedia.

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Speaker 1: Thank you man. I love that you bet you bet.

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Speaker 1: I travel a lot.

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Speaker 5: I always pick you up on iHeartMedia. I really appreciate

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Speaker 5: you courage the listeners to do the same. Hey, I'm

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Speaker 5: still on a rant about Central Committee.

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Speaker 1: Of the Republican Hill would I know.

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Speaker 5: I know, I can't get over it, but I did

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Speaker 5: some homework based on your interview with Robert Sprague, who

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Speaker 5: is the treasurer, who is Jack Guess that would would

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Speaker 5: allow him to be everything in state government, which is

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Speaker 5: really unique that you can do all these jobs. But

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Speaker 5: if you once you run it, once you get in,

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Speaker 5: evidently you qualified for everything. He said that the reason

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Speaker 5: one of the big things that he would change is

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Speaker 5: that he would make sure that we would set a

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Speaker 5: verified citizenship at the time of voter registration, and that

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Speaker 5: that's currently a gap. I called Warren County Board of

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Speaker 5: Elections talk to a gentleman who is the director and

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Speaker 5: he has been in that position for I think twenty years.

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Speaker 5: He said, that's absolutely false, that there is a three

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Speaker 5: way check at the time of registration. When somebody fills

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Speaker 5: out that registration card, it goes to the BMV two

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Speaker 5: checks at the state level. It was BMV for sure.

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Speaker 5: I thought maybe he said, like medic Medicaid, Medicare Department

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Speaker 5: of Health for a state of Ohio, and then it

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Speaker 5: gets kicked up to the FED.

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Speaker 4: And I think it goes to AHHS.

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Speaker 5: Or somewhere to check that you are an American citizen

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Speaker 5: before that person gets a voter registration card. And I said,

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Speaker 5: would you be willing to I encourage him to call

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Speaker 5: this program and to talk to you all about that

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Speaker 5: the listening audience. And yeah, I said, it gets very political.

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Speaker 5: I I have fear of doing that for repercussions now

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Speaker 5: where repercussions coming down from.

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Speaker 1: It's not from the Republican Party.

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Speaker 5: That's speculation, but politics has our Board of Elections officials

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Speaker 5: scared to death that to talk about the truth. Now,

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Speaker 5: my other question about let's let's suppose that I didn't

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Speaker 5: get it quite right and there's some gap with the

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Speaker 5: Sprague pointed out, I don't think there is. Can he

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Speaker 5: not walk down all and talk to Frank LeRose?

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: See, I just wanted to conclude your point. We're almost

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Speaker 2: at a time and I was getting the hairy eyeball

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Speaker 2: on the admonishment from Joe Strecker. So you posed some

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Speaker 2: interesting points, and I'm you know me, somebody wants to

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Speaker 2: come on and elect a capacity to talk about these problems.

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Speaker 2: I am more than happy to let them do that

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Speaker 2: and try to explain their way out of it. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you keeping your eye on the ball.

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Speaker 1: Jay.

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Speaker 2: Clearly we do have some problems here in the state

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Speaker 2: of Ohio. Thank you, and don't go away. Stick around.

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Speaker 2: We've got lots to talk about. Open line in six

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Speaker 2: o'clock hour, you can direct the conversation. Feel free to

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Speaker 2: do that. I'll be right back after the news.

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Speaker 1: We put the app.

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Speaker 3: I heard radio.

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Speaker 2: appointment listening the Big Picture with Jack Ovidan. Today's topic

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Speaker 2: is anything incorruptible?

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking no.

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Speaker 2: Donald Neil, Americans for a Prosperity is sending me on

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Speaker 2: a tear this morning. Actually the Empower Youth Seminar after that,

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Speaker 2: Donald Neil talking about the Affordability agenda. Of course, if

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Speaker 2: you've gotten your gas tank filled recently, like I did yesterday,

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Speaker 2: I had to pay five bucks for premium average price

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Speaker 2: around town running in it right at three p ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: You may be able to find a little bit of

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Speaker 2: increase in gasoline which is really angering a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it's driven by the war between the Israeli forces,

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Speaker 2: United States and iron and the ripple effect of the

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Speaker 2: know about eight oh five with Tom Hagenhorn's socialist's effort

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Speaker 2: to check America's empower you use someone are taking place

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Speaker 2: tonight And finally Judge of Politano War and morality. He'll

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Speaker 2: be on at day thirty and a scathing opinion from

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Speaker 2: Judge Nina Politano and something that he well channeling Daniel

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Speaker 2: Davis yesterday listening to Daniel Davis deep dive on podcasts

656
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Speaker 2: talking about the legality of the war. And since Daniel

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Speaker 2: Davis and many others under the impression this was not

658
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Speaker 2: an eminent threat, so the War Powers Resolution doesn't apply.

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Speaker 2: There was no authorization from Congress and of course no

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Speaker 2: authorization from military force. Because Donald Trump went in very

661
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: quickly and stealthily in launching this campaign, not a lot

662
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Speaker 2: of discussion ahead of time. So where are we appear

663
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Speaker 2: to be in legal limbo, and of course Judge of

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Speaker 2: Platano and Daniel Davis both suggesting this is an unlawful war.

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Speaker 2: You can argue against that, and we can argue all

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Speaker 2: day long about eminent threat what that might mean to

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Speaker 2: justify its being under the War Powers Act. But you

668
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: still have no resolution. So we seem to be in

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Speaker 2: a state of constitutional uncertainty. Is it crisis?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Feel free to chime in if you like. That's coming

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Speaker 2: up in the fifty five KC Morning Show and over

673
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Speaker 2: to the well the popularity are lack thereof William Galston

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Speaker 2: doing an op ed piece on this, but citing real

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Speaker 2: clear politics, average polling. They put together multiple polls. Their

676
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Speaker 2: polls are taking place all the time, and I know

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Speaker 2: general perception of polls is that they're not reliable. But

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Speaker 2: if you start seeing a trend and a theme upon

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Speaker 2: you know, conservative pollsters, liberal pollsters, independent pollsters, they all

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Speaker 2: have a bit of a political stripe. So it's that

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Speaker 2: John Deice I of skepticism. You paint over any given

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Speaker 2: poll depending upon who did it, but you put them

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Speaker 2: all together and you get some semblance of maybe reality,

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Speaker 2: and that's kind of what he's working off off of

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Speaker 2: relying on the real clear politics figures, which show that

686
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Speaker 2: this is not popular. When the war began, he points out,

687
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Speaker 2: public support was lower than for any other major conflict

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Speaker 2: undertaken in the nearly a century. And since we've now

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Speaker 2: entered the fourth week, turning to the polls, initial public

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00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: doubts have now moved in sweeping opposition. Survey is conducted

691
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Speaker 2: during the third week show that support of the war

692
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Speaker 2: falling to an average of thirty nine percent. Apparently, American

693
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Speaker 2: people don't think that the president has clearly explained the

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Speaker 2: goals of war. And I'll let you decide whether or

695
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Speaker 2: not an explanation upfront or it would be nice to

696
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Speaker 2: have a very clearly defined definition of what we're trying

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Speaker 2: to accomplish here, because you know, whether you love or

698
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Speaker 2: hate Donald Trump, he is a bit all over the

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Speaker 2: board on this one. You know, you've got seventy two hours.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, I'm going to make it five. No, no, no,

701
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna it's just everywhere I'm talking to the Iranians,

702
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Speaker 2: we've got a deal, they've agreed to something, and then

703
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Speaker 2: you hear from the Iranians they say, we never even

704
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Speaker 2: talked to him, he can take his deal and shove

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Speaker 2: it up as keyster. So I, again going back to

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Speaker 2: Daniel Davis's perception, say you got to listen to maybe

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Speaker 2: more foreign news sources try to get that balance. Immediately

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Speaker 2: cocked up thought about Bagdad Bob, and I asked him

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Speaker 2: about that.

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Speaker 1: How can we really rely on that?

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Speaker 2: And that's his sort of well, if you look back,

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Speaker 2: look at everything, look at the conflict and where it is,

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Speaker 2: is this rate of horror moves open? The answer is no,

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Speaker 2: which supports his position that yes, the Iranians oppose a

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Speaker 2: grave threat for the Strait of Horror moonves, in spite

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Speaker 2: of the fact that we've done significant damage to their

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Speaker 2: missile bases, their air force which really wasn't ever and

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Speaker 2: of course their navy. Notwithstanding that, there's all kinds of

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Speaker 2: reports about the thousand plus little midget boats they've got

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Speaker 2: out there, all the different types of minds they still

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Speaker 2: have in their possession, and how easy it is to

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Speaker 2: distribute those also widely reported that they have already put

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Speaker 2: some of those minds in the Strait of Horror moves

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Speaker 2: even recently. So the rationale cursory as it was, we

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Speaker 2: still here in the middle of this conflict, and as

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Speaker 2: the conflict enters it's fourth week, I said, as I

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Speaker 2: pointed out, thirty nine percent of the Real Politics average

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Speaker 2: approve weakening the economy that makes the country less safe

729
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Speaker 2: Americans have concluded a majority of them Americans believe it

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Speaker 2: is a war of choice, not necessity. Again, going back

731
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Speaker 2: to the broader points, was this an eminent threat? Iron's

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Speaker 2: been around since nineteen seventy nine. They've been a thorn

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Speaker 2: in our sides since the beginning, And that's the argument

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Speaker 2: made by many that wait a second, what's changed? What

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Speaker 2: justified the launching of this military action despite the administration's

736
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Speaker 2: call for a short term sacrifice. Here you are, in

737
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Speaker 2: terms of gasoline, people reject paying more for gasoline as

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Speaker 2: their patriotic duty by margin of two to one. Where

739
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: are you on that You got bills to pay, You

740
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Speaker 2: don't want to pay four dollars a gallon. It's eating

741
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Speaker 2: into your disposable income state in the obvious, do you

742
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Speaker 2: believe it's your patriotic duty? If we can slog through

743
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: this and ultimately end up with the world without Iran,

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Speaker 2: you get the regime change you're looking for. Even though

745
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Speaker 2: the Iranians aren't consenting to that. Are you willing to

746
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Speaker 2: put up with an increased price in gasoline to achieve

747
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Speaker 2: that goal? Something to consider. You might get pulled over it.

748
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Speaker 2: And let me interject, since you know me, I don't

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Speaker 2: believe in this whole concept of climate change. Are you

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Speaker 2: willing to pay a lot more for gasoline in the

751
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Speaker 2: name of keeping carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere? There,

752
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: let me put that in your pipe and smoke on

753
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Speaker 2: it for a while. Forty percent of Iran as a

754
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Speaker 2: minor threat. Fifteen percent view it as no threat at all.

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Speaker 2: That's fifty five percent saying Iran shouldn't even be paid

756
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Speaker 2: attention to. Only one third of people believe the current

757
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: war is justified two thirds surveyed. I think the current

758
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Speaker 2: air and sea operation is going to lead the troops

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Speaker 2: on the ground, as Donald Trump has committed three thousand

760
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Speaker 2: and eighty second airborne troops. I guess they're on their

761
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Speaker 2: way a quart of the reporting as of this morning.

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Speaker 2: Kind of a threat. You know, if you're going to

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Speaker 2: send troops on the ground, you better have them ready

764
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Speaker 2: to go. It's a strong suggestion to the Iranians that, well,

765
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Speaker 2: maybe Donald Trump will do that. However, public support for

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Speaker 2: using even a limited number of special forces only sits

767
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Speaker 2: at thirty four percent, a cord to the Reuter's Zipsos

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Speaker 2: poll backing for a large land invasion. Ask you are

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Speaker 2: you in favor of that? Apparently only seven percent of

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Speaker 2: Americans are in favor of a large land invasion. Sixty

771
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Speaker 2: one percent favor ending the war quickly, twenty four percent

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Speaker 2: say we should fight on until the president's objectives are achieved.

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Speaker 2: In going back to Golston's point, what are specifically the objectives?

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Speaker 2: We might have a little insight into that with the

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Speaker 2: fifteen point plan that was released yesterday. What are the objectives?

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Speaker 2: According to reports they sent over this fifteen point plan,

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Speaker 2: it's being negotiated with some Pakistani folks. Dismantle existing nuclear capabilities,

778
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: which Donald Trump said they've agreed to that, and yet

779
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: the Iranian said, no, no, no, we didn't commit to

780
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Speaker 2: never pursue nuclear weapons. That's number two, number three, number three,

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Speaker 2: no uranium in Richmond on Iranian territory. Iran must hand

782
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Speaker 2: its stockpile of enriched uranium to the International Atomic Energy

783
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Speaker 2: Agency nantas Ishfashan and fod Or nuclear facilities must be

784
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Speaker 2: dismantled IAEA must be granted full access to Iran's nuclear facilities.

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Speaker 2: Iran must abandon its regional proxy paradogem that's in quotes,

786
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Speaker 2: cease the funding, directing, and arming of its proxies. It

787
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Speaker 2: is a wishless folks reopen the strait of horror moves

788
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 2: and must remain reopen. Iran's missile program must be limited

789
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Speaker 2: in both range and quantity. Iron must limited use of

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Speaker 2: missiles for self defense, and in return, Iron would benefit

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Speaker 2: from the end of sanctions imposed by the international community,

792
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Speaker 2: US assistants to advance civilian nuclear program and a snapback

793
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Speaker 2: mechanism allowing for the automatic reimposition to sanctions if Iran

794
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Speaker 2: fails to comply. Well, it's a great list of stuff

795
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Speaker 2: and things. But pivoting over to the Irodians after on

796
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Speaker 2: the heels of Trump saying, hey, we've got some concession here.

797
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Speaker 2: They've agreed. He said yesterday of his biggest demand, they

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Speaker 2: will never have a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 1: They've agreed to that.

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Speaker 2: That's a quote from Donald Trump in response to Iran says,

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Speaker 2: uh no, we aren't negotiating with the United States.

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Speaker 1: The States.

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Speaker 2: We ud stated it has agreed to it hasn't agreed

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Speaker 2: to any of Trump's demand, including ending its pursued of

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Speaker 2: nuclear weapons. Trump said yesterday, we're actually talking to the

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Speaker 2: right people, and they want to make a deal so badly.

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Speaker 2: You have no idea how how badly they want to

808
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Speaker 2: make a deal. So we have an obvious, profound disconnect

809
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Speaker 2: here in terms of what each side is saying. And

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Speaker 2: so I'm left to basically conclude, I think, like the

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Speaker 2: rest of everybody, you have no idea where we are

812
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Speaker 2: on this question is are you willing to suffer through

813
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Speaker 2: the financial difficulties you probably are facing or will face

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Speaker 2: as a consequence of this. Going back to something Donald

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Speaker 2: and O'Neil is going to be talking about food in

816
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Speaker 2: food problems, and food prices have already gone up dramatically,

817
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Speaker 2: and by all accounts, that's only going to get worse

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Speaker 2: given the fertile is the fertilizer freeze because of the

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Speaker 2: straight up horn moves being shut down. So uh, Finally,

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Speaker 2: that last couple of figures from the from the discussion

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Speaker 2: from William Galston, one court of Americans who voted for

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Speaker 2: Trump in twenty twenty four now disapprove of the Iran policy,

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Speaker 2: especially among those who really were back in strong Trump

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Speaker 2: strongly in the election, fifty six percent of young adults disapprove,

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Speaker 2: sixty two percent of Hispanic Independence disapprove, and sadly we

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Speaker 2: get back may have a bad omen coming out of

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Speaker 2: Florida yesterday, which maybe puts an exclamation point and perhaps

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Speaker 2: perhaps confirms the real Clear Politics figures that Galston was

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Speaker 2: relying on kind of scary stuff as we approach November five,

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Speaker 1: We'll dive into local stories.

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Speaker 2: Let's want a call hear from you if you have

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Speaker 2: something to say if I went three seven, four nine

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Speaker 2: on at and T Founds and uh, maybe some advice

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Speaker 2: for the City of Cincinnati. In the next segment, Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump has a lot to be proud of and his

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Speaker 2: policies do work depending on where you're looking. And one

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Speaker 2: policy that may work for the City of Cincinnati worked

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Speaker 2: in Nashville, Tennessee. Later on that one. First a story

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Speaker 2: from the status too, but it is a local story.

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Speaker 2: I guess I have to first ask I enquiry day

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Speaker 2: far our reporting on this. Is there anybody who's a

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Speaker 2: fan of Cincinnati tap water anyway? If you are, you

848
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Speaker 2: can get it from a can. Apparently, Greater since a

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Speaker 2: waterworks launching a project tapping the city's waters and putting

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Speaker 2: it into a can. Water departments already produced dozens of

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Speaker 2: cases of this, thousands of more cans in the pipeline,

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Speaker 2: and says David, Environment Protection Agency regulations to require water

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Speaker 2: companies to provide an alternative source of water to consumers

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Speaker 2: if their service is disrupted for twenty four hours longer

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Speaker 2: like a water main break. This project the way to

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Speaker 2: comply with the regulation. Water Companies executive director Andrew Yang

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Speaker 2: said they are looking into selling the water and possibly

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Speaker 2: placing it at local grocery stores. Money raised we'll go

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Speaker 2: toward customers who cannot afford their water bills or education

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Speaker 2: events at the Sinsee public schools. Yang said Greater Cincinnatio

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Speaker 2: Waterworks won the best tasting tap water in Ohio. How

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Speaker 2: high is that bar? We're excited to share this homeward

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Speaker 2: winning tap water with the community. Production costs four nine

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Speaker 2: twenty cans fifteen thousand bucks aka three bucks a can.

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Speaker 1: I don't know you'd call that a value.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, We've got to Betavia, where a village of

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Speaker 2: Botavia council members now facing assault charges for attacking a

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Speaker 2: resident outside of a public townhole meeting. Michael Gardner charged

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Speaker 2: with one kind of assault, first degree misdemeanor. Courted to

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Speaker 2: the Claremont County Sheriff's office, he entered a not guilty plea.

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Speaker 2: William Albright said he was the man that Gardner took

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Speaker 2: a swing at after a council meeting, pointing out first

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Speaker 2: he attends hundreds of meetings. First time though this has happened,

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Speaker 2: he said, I go to every meeting village in township.

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Speaker 2: I got a fire department meeting, school board meetings. He

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Speaker 2: said it was at mondaynight's Monday night's meeting, expressing concerns

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Speaker 2: about an upcoming fire levee. He said things escalated verbally.

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Speaker 2: Albright and Gardner during the public comment, Albright said, I'm

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Speaker 2: not the person that you will talk to like you

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Speaker 2: have in the past that you can get that straight

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Speaker 2: right now, saying you can kiss my a word. Gardner

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Speaker 2: then told Albright, let's walk outside. Cording the reporting, Albright said,

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Speaker 2: he followed me right out, got right in my face

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Speaker 2: and I flipped him off in there. He came out

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Speaker 2: there and said, flip me off again. I flipped him

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Speaker 2: off again, and he took a swing and he missed

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Speaker 2: because he's slow close. Quote Sheriff Stratton in his statement,

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Speaker 2: the Sheriff's Office takes allegations of violence seriously, regardless of

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Speaker 2: the individuals involved. This matter as being hand on according

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Speaker 2: to the law. Gardner appearing in court uh ten am

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Speaker 2: this morning for a temporary protection order hearing, Albright said,

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Speaker 2: I want him removed from this council. Six thirty five

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Speaker 2: fifty five. Thank you Joe Strecker for putting an exclamation

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Speaker 2: of the battle on b it's a fake website, Lizza,

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Speaker 2: kick out of it. I'll probably headline quadrivile amputique cornhole

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Speaker 2: champion claims it was a different quadruple amputeue cornhole champion

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Speaker 2: who shot that guy. If you don't know about it,

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Speaker 2: it might be worth looking into that story. Wow, it

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Speaker 2: did make it into the Stackers Dupid this morning. I

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Speaker 2: stally didn't have time editorial discretion on that one.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: While Trump tries to keep his well keep a positive image,

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Speaker 2: this war is real problematic for him from a public

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Speaker 2: well coping with the repercussions of it, whether it's gas prices,

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Speaker 2: the concern over a global conflict which since ira or

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Speaker 2: Israel started launching rockets into the Caspian Sea.

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Speaker 1: Corner of ports.

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Speaker 2: From yesterday, Israel strike on a naval outpost in the

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Speaker 2: Caspian seae like what targeted Russia's support for Iran in

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Speaker 2: the war, hitting a supply line that countries have used

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Speaker 2: to move ammunition, drones and other weapons, ry webary, but

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Speaker 2: also food and other supplies that have nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with the war. Yeah, Caspian Sea, Russians and the Iranians

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Speaker 2: come back and forth. They've been at this for a

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Speaker 2: long long time. That was not a military target up

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Speaker 2: until I guess last week was first reported though yesterday,

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Speaker 2: so our suggesting if we get the Russians involved, are

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Speaker 2: we not expanding this war and involving global powers that

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Speaker 2: have nuclear weapons and therefore labeling at World War three?

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Speaker 2: It's certainly a possibility. So freaked out people are, however,

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Speaker 2: and a lesson that maybe Cincinnati can tap on into.

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Speaker 2: Trump was down in Memphis yesterday. Guess what, I guess

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Speaker 2: Cracking down on crime works, especially if you have the

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Speaker 2: cooperation of the city, which they did roundtable event with

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Speaker 2: folks in Memphis Senior Leadership team. Last September, the Trump

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Speaker 2: team launched the Memphis Safe Task Force. Now does this

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Speaker 2: sound familiar for those out there that remember Police Chief

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Speaker 2: threes that DG force. She was placed on administrative leave.

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Speaker 2: Hey Signal ninety nine, multi agency effort involving federal officers,

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Speaker 2: local police, and the Tennessee National Guard to fight violent crime.

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Speaker 1: It was a bad idea.

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Speaker 2: Last summer before the election, Police Chief three g pased

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Speaker 2: on administrative leaving low and behold. Now they're out rolling

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Speaker 2: it out saying how great it is here in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: We're working with federal partners, We're prosecuting people federally. All right,

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Speaker 2: but we're down in Memphis for this one. Before the

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Speaker 2: initiative got launched, Memphis had the highest rate of violent

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Speaker 2: crime per capita in the country. That's FBI statistics, highest

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Speaker 2: per capitay in the country. Fast forward to now, overall

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Speaker 2: crime down forty three percent compared to last year. The

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Speaker 2: task force said it recently has made close to seven

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Speaker 2: thousand arrests and seized more than eleven hundred illegal firearms

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Speaker 2: since the crackdown began. Trump said, you have now developed

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Speaker 2: a reputation as a city that's coming back stronger than

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Speaker 2: any city in the country because of what's happened with crime,

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Speaker 2: and because your political leaders had the courage to do

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Speaker 2: what they did, in other words, get tough on crime.

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Speaker 2: Look wow, proving that the criminal justice system foundational points

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Speaker 2: actually work. If you're tough on crime, you punish people.

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Speaker 2: Not only do you punish them for the harm they

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Speaker 2: did to society at large, but you act as a deterrence.

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Speaker 2: Your prosecution and stiff punishment serves as a warning to

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Speaker 2: all others out there in the world who might commit

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Speaker 2: crimes that you're going to be dealt with harshly, and

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Speaker 2: if you do it crime jobs. Hey, Iris Rawley, how's

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Speaker 2: that for a concept changing tactics they're hoping will help

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump. See, I'm bringing this up in an effort

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Speaker 2: to project, yes, there are some things that he's doing

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Speaker 2: that are great. They're benefiting society, everybody in Memphis. I

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Speaker 2: can't imagine if they want to get Donald Trump credit

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Speaker 2: for or not, but this effort clearly paid off in

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Speaker 2: a major way. Politically advantageous. This would be let's get

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Speaker 2: this word out there, Hey, this guy knows what to

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Speaker 2: do about crime. About sixty one percent of respondent in

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Speaker 2: a re Reuter's up ipso's poll last month, including ninety

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Speaker 2: two percent of Republicans, thirty five percent of Democrats, said

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Speaker 2: they supported deporting unauthorized migrants, but generally disapproved of the

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Speaker 2: Trump administration's hardline tactics. Something else that is changing the

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Speaker 2: idea of going after the worst of the worst people

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Speaker 2: with the detention order the committed crimes, that is still

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Speaker 2: widely embraced. But you've noticed, at least maybe I've had noticed,

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Speaker 2: maybe I've missed some important reporting on it. You don't

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Speaker 2: see about the protests, the war, the violence in the streets,

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Speaker 2: the street protesters going after ICE agents. That's because the

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Speaker 2: Trump administration's kind of toned down its policy. They don't

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Speaker 2: have to have that much involvement with people. If you

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Speaker 2: go after the hardest of hardcore, you can probably get

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Speaker 2: a judicial warrant, which are on the rise, as opposed

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Speaker 2: to going with an administrative warrant, which of course angers

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Speaker 2: the Democrats and provides fodder for the keeping the government

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Speaker 2: shut down argument. Nobody has a problem with ICE agents

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Speaker 2: being at the airport right now. Apparently they got a

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Speaker 2: problem ironed out. There's lines not nearly as long as

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Speaker 2: they were before Trump sent IC in, so they can't

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Timothy. Talking about how price of gasoline and

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Speaker 2: of course people angry about it in the situation in

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Speaker 2: the Middle East. Of course, the impacting and dramatically average

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Speaker 2: about a dollar over the past couple of weeks. Timothy,

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Speaker 2: a little bit of rational thought on this one hundred

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Speaker 2: Typical sixteen ounces takes eight bottle of water to make

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Speaker 2: a gallon. Thank you Tim for doing the math. People

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Speaker 2: complain about four dollars a gallon for gasoline, but don't

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Speaker 2: complain about paying a dollar a bottle for water at

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Speaker 2: a gas station, meaning it's eight dollars per gallon for water,

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Speaker 2: to which I of course had to chime in. Or

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Speaker 2: maybe seven dollars for a couple of Starbucks when you

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Speaker 2: can make multiply twenty three pots of coffee from a

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Speaker 2: make it at home, and probably you'll save more than

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Speaker 2: the increase in your gasoline price, considering how much coffee

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Speaker 2: gets consumed anyway, pivoting over we always do tech Frida

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Speaker 2: with Dave Hotter. I wanted to get this in. Actually

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Speaker 2: I view this as a positive thing. I have no

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Speaker 2: idea where this AI future is for US artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 2: But a New Mexico jury yesterday ordered Meta to pay

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Speaker 2: three hundred and seventy five million dollars, finding the company

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Speaker 2: violated state law by misleading users about the safety of

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Speaker 2: its platforms, enabling child exploitation. It was a jury trial

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Speaker 2: they found Facebook and Instagram's parent company violated in Mexico's

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Speaker 2: consumer protection law, following a lawsuit brought by the Attorney

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Speaker 2: General there Raoul Torres, which accused Meta of family to

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Speaker 2: protect children from predators. Raoul Torres in a statement, jury

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Speaker 2: verdict is a historic victory for every child and family

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Speaker 2: who has paid the price for Meta's choice to put

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Speaker 2: profits over kids' safety. Meta's executives knew their products harmed children,

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Speaker 2: disregarded warnings from their own employees, and lied to the

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Speaker 2: public about what they knew. Today, the jury joined families, educators,

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Speaker 2: and child safety experts and saying enough is enough. That

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Speaker 2: is the first time a state has prevailed at trial

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Speaker 2: against a tech company over its claims that children are

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Speaker 2: harmed by their products. Unbelievable lawsuit was filed originally in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, alleging Meta created what they called a

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Speaker 2: breeding ground for child predators and misled users about this

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Speaker 2: safety protections that Facebook claimed were there. Now that penalty,

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Speaker 2: it's about how big it is. Three hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: five million dollars the I believe they were looking for

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Speaker 2: two point one billion dollars. The officials in New Mexico

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Speaker 2: were Jerry did award. They claim the maximum allowed under

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Speaker 2: state law five thousand dollars per violation.

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Speaker 1: Meta of course is going to appeal.

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Speaker 2: UH I like this normally, I'm not huge, and you know,

1043
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Speaker 2: playing is going after companies that obviously makes the price

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Speaker 2: of whatever good or service out in the world go

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Speaker 2: up because they have to deal with the aftermath. But

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Speaker 2: it is accountability, and that's the thing that's baked into

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Speaker 2: the civil justice system we have here accountability and since

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Speaker 2: Meta global it is and there are tight regulatory restrictions

1049
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Speaker 2: elsewhere in the world, tighter than they are here. Now

1050
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Speaker 2: is staring this and may not win on appeal. They

1051
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Speaker 2: may have to shell out this money. They know that

1052
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Speaker 2: massive liability awaits them down the road. What's the best

1053
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Speaker 2: possible thing they can do right, step up to the plate.

1054
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Speaker 2: Provide adequate and comprehensive protection services. Maybe that you can

1055
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Speaker 2: turn on and off your discretion. That is a product

1056
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Speaker 2: feature that's supposed to either draw you in or not

1057
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Speaker 2: having the feature available, so parents and children can all

1058
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Speaker 2: be protected having it in place by default. So you

1059
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Speaker 2: can't come up with pedophile connections on through the platform.

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Speaker 2: Most people aren't hip and savvy about how this stuff work.

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Speaker 2: And I'll throw myself right in the equation. Then again,

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Speaker 2: I'm an adult. I don't have to worry about it. Thankfully,

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Speaker 2: my children are adults. I don't have to worry about them.

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Speaker 2: But given the the vast majority of people aren't really

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Speaker 2: capable of really understanding how this works and how easy

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Speaker 2: it is for perverts to get in touch with your

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Speaker 2: kids on multiple platforms, then maybe we should start from

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Speaker 2: the default position that perverts won't be able to get

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Speaker 2: access to your kids unless, of course, you turn that

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Speaker 2: Adan and my friend. Thank you so much or for

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Speaker 2: your time today and for all your time previously. I

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Speaker 2: really enjoy hearing from you, and I've just the way

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Speaker 2: you weave history in with things going on right now

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Speaker 2: in modern times is always brilliant.

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Speaker 1: Good to have you back.

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Speaker 6: On the show, my friend, thanks so much, brother, I

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Speaker 6: appreciate it. To celebrate spring and Opening Day, let's hear

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Speaker 6: a Democrats version of Elizabeth Barrett Browning. How do I

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Speaker 6: hate Trump? Let me count the ways. I hate him

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Speaker 6: for securing the border and disarming you run. I hate

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Speaker 6: Trump for his tax cuts and his spending cuts, his

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Speaker 6: regulatory cuts and his haircut. I hate him for his wealth,

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Speaker 6: for his wife and his oh so perfect kids, don't

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Speaker 6: you miss hunter. I hate how he's keeping boys from

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Speaker 6: becoming girls and illegals from becoming voters. And if some

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Speaker 6: crazed who or paid assassin shoes, I shall but hate

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Speaker 6: Trump better after death. My friends, that's the Democrat Party

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Speaker 6: in a nutshell. And it's still hard to believe that

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Speaker 6: Democrats are playing Russian Roulette with homeland security during the war. Yes,

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Speaker 6: they may soon cut a deal that does not include

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Speaker 6: long term funding for ICE. Senator Eric Swalwell wants to

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Speaker 6: disband ICE altogether, and House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries He

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Speaker 6: says ICE agents the President has helping out at airports.

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Speaker 6: Now those ICE agents may shoot passengers, and not just

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Speaker 6: the ones who recline their seats right into your lap.

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Speaker 6: We'd all like to shoot them. Democrats want to abolish

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Speaker 6: immigration and customs enforcements, and we know why, so tens

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Speaker 6: of millions of illegal invaders can be counted in the

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Speaker 6: census and swell the populations of all the sanctuary cities

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Speaker 6: and seventeen sanctuary states run by Democrats, giving them more

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Speaker 6: seats in Congress and more taxpayer funds for fraudulent social programs. Folks,

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Speaker 6: it's all about power. The power that Lord Acton said,

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Speaker 6: and we say all the time corrupts a little bit

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Speaker 6: of history, because that's what we do here. Corruption started

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Speaker 6: polluting American politics about two hundred years ago with the

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Speaker 6: new spoil system of Democrats Andrew Jackson and Martin Van Buren.

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Speaker 6: In fairness, corruption continued under establishment Republicans, and it does

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Speaker 6: to this day. Politicians handed governor contracts and jobs to fatcats,

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Speaker 6: filling their campaign coffers and their pockets, even though our

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Speaker 6: whole constitutional system was built to avoid corruption by keeping

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Speaker 6: divided government as small as possible. The chief job of

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Speaker 6: the federal government was supposed to be what we now

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Speaker 6: call national security, homeland security, including border security. President Eisenhower,

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Speaker 6: who swept up and deported one point three million illegals, Obama,

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Speaker 6: who after he lost the midterms deported three million illegals,

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Speaker 6: and Trump, who's been called hitler for deporting two point

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Speaker 6: five million, most of whom self deported. They and all

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Speaker 6: other presidents, even Lion Joe Biden, agreed we must ban

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Speaker 6: illegal immigration. Yet Democrats continue to undercut national security, from

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Speaker 6: criminals here at home to Iranian mullas hoping to blow

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Speaker 6: us the Kingdom come. Lacking any growth or security agenda.

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Speaker 6: Democrats are corrupt to the core, which got me wondering, Brian,

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Speaker 6: has there ever been an institution that proved incorruptible, a

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Speaker 6: group so high minded it was immune to Lord Acton's warning.

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Speaker 6: Maybe because this is the last time we're going to

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Speaker 6: be talking before Easter, I came up with one. One

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Speaker 6: incorruptible institution. Monasteries. You didn't see that coming.

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 6: Monasteries, Christian monasteries shielded from temptation, monks taking a vow

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Speaker 6: of poverty, chastity, and service to God. If power can

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Speaker 6: corrupt monks, it really can't corrupt anything. Well, sadly, Brian, coming,

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Speaker 6: that's exactly what happened, Not today, and not with the

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Speaker 6: vast majority of monks, much less nuns anytime, but just

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Speaker 6: enough of them to threaten the entire institution. Until monasteries

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Speaker 6: underwent the kind of reform that our Leviathan government is

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Speaker 6: crying out for. Here's that history. The first monk, in

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Speaker 6: a way, was Jesus's cousin, John the Baptist. John wandered

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Speaker 6: in the wilderness wearing animal skins, eating locusts and wild honey,

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Speaker 6: proclaiming the coming of the Messiah. John paid for that

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Speaker 6: with his head. Nothing corrupt about him. The apostles were

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Speaker 6: also monks of a kind, living communally until they set

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Speaker 6: out across their own world preaching the Gospel. Except for Judas'

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01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 6: carrey it in his Thirty Pieces of Silver, the first

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Speaker 6: true monastery gathered monks in all places in Egypt. The

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Speaker 6: word monk comes from the Greek meaning solitary. Soon other

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Speaker 6: monasteries and then convents started spreading, led by saints, remarkable

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Speaker 6: people like Benedict and Francis, they improved farming, founded schools,

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Speaker 6: and together with Islamic scholars, a story we've told before.

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Speaker 6: Monasteries during the Dark Ages also preserved writings of the

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Speaker 6: ancient Greeks and Romans, paving the way for thenance. We

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Speaker 6: should pay particular attention to that, because we may be

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Speaker 6: entering another period of dark ages. At their best, monasteries

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Speaker 6: devoted themselves to the imitation of Christ. For instance, during

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Speaker 6: a terrible famine in the twelfth century, one monastery in

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Speaker 6: Westphalia slaughtered all of its flocks and herds, sold its

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Speaker 6: books and even sacred vessels, and donated the proceeds to

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Speaker 6: feed the poor. That was the ideal. However, many monasteries

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Speaker 6: fell short of the ideal. They became rich because rich

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01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 6: benefactors bequeathed them fortunes. Try to buy a ticket to heaven.

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Speaker 6: Monasteries expanded their land holdings. They accepted into their ranks

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Speaker 6: the cronies of their day, the younger sons of noblemen.

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Speaker 6: They paid laymen to do the hard work they used

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Speaker 6: to do, and let many abbots and friars live like

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Speaker 6: anyone but John the Baptist. Does this remind you of

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Speaker 6: anything of maybe modern politicians, maybe our entire Congress. The

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Speaker 6: good news, in every sense is that for monasteries, decadentes

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Speaker 6: finally brought on reform. The Protestant Reformation and the Catholic

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Speaker 6: counter Reformation drove these latter day money changers out of

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Speaker 6: the temple. We don't have time to continue the much

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Speaker 6: more uplifting history that followed. Suffice it to say I

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Speaker 6: have enormous respect for the more than five hundred and

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Speaker 6: eighty monasteries today in the US alone. My point is that,

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Speaker 6: just as in medieval times when corrupt monasteries sold out

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Speaker 6: deeply devout brothers in Christ, today the Democrat Party and

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Speaker 6: some Republicans, in a quest for power and graft, they

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Speaker 6: have sold out core constituencies. American workers whose wages are

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Speaker 6: undercut by tens of millions of illegal migrants here at home,

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Speaker 6: and by manufacturers who ship their jobs to communists China,

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Speaker 6: families whose kids' education has been sacrificed to the greed

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Speaker 6: of teacher unions. Inner city minorities made abjectly dependent on

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Speaker 6: Democrat big government for food, housing, everything except their safety

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Speaker 6: because big government leads them utterly unsafe from street thugs

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Speaker 6: and from enemies like communists China and Iran Brian. Just

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Speaker 6: as churches had to reform themselves and rid themselves of

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Speaker 6: corrupt prelates, America has to rid itself of corrupt, power

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Speaker 6: hungry politicians and their paymasters in both parties, because if

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Speaker 6: you can corrupt a monastery, imagine what you can do

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Speaker 6: to a political party. Or rather don't imagine. Just look

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Speaker 6: and then in the coming primaries, and especially this November

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Speaker 6: vote to cleanse America, what do you say, brother.

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Speaker 2: Brian, Well, the reformation process brought about by a lot

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Speaker 2: of of course, and that was a positive thing. I

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Speaker 2: know a lot of my listeners are clamoring for non incumbents,

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Speaker 2: those who have not benefited from the political machine, those

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Speaker 2: whose hands are clean and free of the corruption about

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Speaker 2: which you speak, and I understand that maybe this is

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Speaker 2: a form of reformation on our own. We don't need

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Speaker 2: term limits. We just need to make more informed, better

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Speaker 2: choices when it goes to selecting candidates.

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Speaker 6: Jack, Yeah, we have to get behind outsiders, anybody who

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Speaker 6: is running against incumbents that we feel are falling short

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Speaker 6: of the job. And I'm not going to name some

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Speaker 6: of them. Some of them don't have opponents incoming primaries,

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Speaker 6: and that really is a shame because everybody, even the

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Speaker 6: good ones, even the best, have to face challenges in

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Speaker 6: order to stay on their toes. Something more about the Democrats, Brian.

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Speaker 6: Democrat leaders like Chuck Schumer, Zora and Momdami. They're no

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Speaker 6: longer even trying to pass as Centrists. And the scariest

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Speaker 6: thing about that claim from Haaking Jeffreys that ice agents

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Speaker 6: at airports will shoot passengers is that he knows millions

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Speaker 6: of Democrats will buy that. Why because they're so stupid.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, my Democrat friends and family, but it's true.

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Speaker 6: With their control of schools, social media, and most pop culture,

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Speaker 6: Democrats are racing to make America totally dependent on their

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Speaker 6: totalitarian big brother government. The fight against stupidity has to

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Speaker 6: begin at home, each of our homes and schools, and

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Speaker 6: just in time for Passover in the Easter, it's got

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Speaker 6: to beginning in our places of worship. The alternative is

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Speaker 6: literally unthinkable.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, you know it's interesting timing on your comments, Sir

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Speaker 2: Tom Hagener is going to join us at eight oh five.

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Speaker 2: He's going to empower you some of ar tonight about

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Speaker 2: socialist efforts to change American of course, focusing largely on

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Speaker 2: the education system, which is taken over by socialists. But

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Speaker 2: lo and behold Jack Avidan behind the scenes on that one.

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Speaker 2: What are we seeing in education? A reformation effort choice,

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Speaker 2: giving people the option, a growing growing rank of people

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Speaker 2: that are doing exactly that, more states giving people the option,

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Speaker 2: even the dollars follow the children as opposed going directly

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Speaker 2: to the public schools, which are nothing more than in

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Speaker 2: doctrination camp. So maybe we'll find ourselves on the other

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Speaker 2: side at some point, jack outed in any better place.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to the efforts by so many out there who

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Speaker 2: are pushing for school choice in order to prevent the

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Speaker 2: indoctrination of their children along these extraordinarily stupid lines.

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Speaker 6: And more and more parents and students realizing that they

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Speaker 6: don't need so called higher education. Higher education is a

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Speaker 6: racket that bill has started after World War Two with

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Speaker 6: the GI Bill. A lot of people, my dad among them,

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Speaker 6: did get a good education. My dad became a dietitian.

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Speaker 6: He didn't go to a university, and it stood them

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Speaker 6: in good stead. More and more people are realizing, you

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Speaker 6: got to get something that works. And we'll be talking

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Speaker 6: about AI when I come back after reaster. Great and

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Speaker 6: the fear that a lot of people have, but the

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Speaker 6: possibilities that AI opens, the possibilities that it's unfortunate term

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Speaker 6: but creative destruction has always presented to people going to

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Speaker 6: all the babyboard back to cavemen. Yes, that's a long

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Speaker 6: history for that talk.

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Speaker 2: Happy Easter to you early, Jack, look forward to next Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: another brilliant episode of the Big Picture with Jack Avan

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Speaker 2: and Jack Alan in best of health and loved you

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Speaker 2: and your better half. I'll look forward to talking with

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Speaker 2: you again real soon, my friend, you too, Thanks so

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Speaker 2: much sevent eighteen. Coming up in seven nineteen to fifty five,

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Speaker 2: gar see the talk station. Hey you excited about field Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Brian Thomas always pleaded to talk to Donovan and Neil

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Speaker 2: for Americans for Prosperity. Hey, we got an affordability problem

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Speaker 2: in this country. AFP knows all about it. They're launching

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Speaker 2: a multi million dollar nationwide affordability campaign. Donald and Neil,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to the Morning Show. It's always great having

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Speaker 2: you on the program.

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Speaker 1: Brian, despite being in DC, I'm gladly with you.

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Speaker 2: I was getting ready to offer some condolences your venue.

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Speaker 2: I don't envy you at all. Donovan, So STAF travels

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Speaker 2: when you get out, and you might want to bring

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Speaker 2: the American flag out when you do come, because it

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Speaker 2: doesn't quite remember resemble America, at least that as I

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Speaker 2: know it. Anyway, AFP's joined with the Libra Initiative and

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Speaker 2: Concerned Veterans for America teaming up to well spread the

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Speaker 2: love about Affordability agenda and providing some options for Americans

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Speaker 2: to get some long term solutions to energy, housing, healthcare,

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Speaker 2: and everything else that the people deem unaffordable. But you

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Speaker 2: did a survey which is a real eye opener, Donovan,

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Speaker 2: fifteen hundred registered voters. This was before the gas price

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Speaker 2: increase brought about by the war between US and Iran.

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Speaker 2: But I know we're all struggling with that. Donald and

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Speaker 2: I paid four ninety nine per gallon yesterday. It was premium,

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Speaker 2: but right across the street from here, and that's obviously

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Speaker 2: a lot more than it used to be. So let's

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Speaker 2: talk about the results of the survey before we dive

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Speaker 2: on into AFP's sort of action points and how AFP

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Speaker 2: proposes dealing with affordability.

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Speaker 7: Donovan, Well, yeah, you know, we're we're an organization, right

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Speaker 7: that doesn't just put our finger in the wind and

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Speaker 7: kind of see where where things are blowing. We actually,

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Speaker 7: you know, regularly pull you know, run these polls that

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Speaker 7: to engauge the opinion of voters. We're out there knocking

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Speaker 7: doors every day, Brian, as you and your listeners will know,

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Speaker 7: to really connect with with real America, with real highlands,

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Speaker 7: real Americans, and the message that we're bringing to Capitol

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Speaker 7: Hills pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 1: We've got to get our policy agenda.

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Speaker 7: On track in this country. We are focused on the

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Speaker 7: wrong things. The real reality actually here is we aren't

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Speaker 7: focused on anything in this country. We've got seven different

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Speaker 7: things distracting Congress right now. And so our message on

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Speaker 7: affordability is, this is what the American people care about.

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Speaker 7: The polling shows it Republican, moderate Democrat. What they want

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Speaker 7: is lower gas prices, lower energy prices, more affordable growth trees,

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Speaker 7: and the ability to buy a home for their healthcare,

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Speaker 7: the simple stuff, right that makes the American dream possible.

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Speaker 1: It's feeling like it's getting further and further away.

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Speaker 7: And the more time Congress spends, you know, distracted by

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Speaker 7: you know, the scroll of the day, the less time

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Speaker 7: they're spending actually getting things done to the American people.

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Speaker 7: That's the message of bringing to Capitol Hill. And it's

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Speaker 7: what the pulling, you know, sort of bears out as well.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 2: I think the immediate pain of the gas price increase

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Speaker 2: is hitting everybody. And of course Donald Trump did a

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Speaker 2: wonderful job of the all the above strategy opened a

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Speaker 2: lot of drilling and oil and natural gas production. Things

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Speaker 2: were going great. Price of gasoline was the lowest that

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Speaker 2: had been in the last time. I mean, I couldn't

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Speaker 2: remember how long it's been since we were paying like

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Speaker 2: two dollars a gallon for gasoline. But here we are

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Speaker 2: average in the Greater Cincinnati area is four dollars. So

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Speaker 2: that is so you can give Trump credit for what

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Speaker 2: it was before the war started. But then immediately people

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Speaker 2: are going to pivot over and say, well, if Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump hadn't started bombing round the straight of Horror, moves

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Speaker 2: would be open and we wouldn't have to deal with

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Speaker 2: the dollar increase in gasoline. I mean, how do you

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Speaker 2: reconcile those seemingly contradictory realities, you know, in advocating for

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Speaker 2: conservative principles at Donovan, Well, that's part of the message

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Speaker 2: of bringing as well.

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Speaker 7: Right, you know, the president has secured America, has secured

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Speaker 7: some very important strategic and tactical victories in Iran. Right now,

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Speaker 7: you know, our opinion is we should you know, double

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Speaker 7: down those and then and call it and call it

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Speaker 7: a victory and get out of there. Otherwise we're going

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Speaker 7: to find ourselves in another endless war. You know what

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Speaker 7: the American people elected this Republican majority to go do

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Speaker 7: back in twenty twenty four, just what fourteen fifteen, short, short.

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Speaker 1: Months ago was They wanted affordability.

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Speaker 7: We saw what four years of Bidenomics looked like, right

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Speaker 7: with record level federal spending. We saw what an unsecured

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Speaker 7: border looked like with with you know, mass of legal immigration.

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Speaker 7: We saw what failed energy policy looked like with high

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Speaker 7: fuel prices. And you know, I think what the voters,

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Speaker 7: you know, in a midterm year, the typical reaction for

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Speaker 7: you know, the party in power, which in this case

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Speaker 7: as Republicans, is to you know, hunker down, cover your

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Speaker 7: head and just hope that you know, the damage isn't

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Speaker 7: so bad that it gets to your you know, as

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Speaker 7: if your congressman gets to your district. But the reality

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Speaker 7: is is, like, we have the vision, we have the

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Speaker 7: agenda President Trump landed utter a state of a Union.

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Speaker 1: We've put out our affordability.

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Speaker 7: Agenda that aligns very nicely with what the White House

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Speaker 7: is advocating for and what honestly many congressional leaders say

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Speaker 7: we need to do. The problem is sort of getting

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Speaker 7: these ducks in a row.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 7: You got four hundred and thirty five some of them

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Speaker 7: here in the country in Congress. We've got to get

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Speaker 7: those folks lined up, at least the Republican ones, right,

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Speaker 7: the two hundred and eighteen or so of them, to

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Speaker 7: go finish the things they were elected to do. Chief

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Speaker 7: among them right now, especially with energy prices skyrocketing, is

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Speaker 7: get it, you know, it is permitting reform like the

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Speaker 7: Speed Act that's gonna unleash energy abundance in all in

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Speaker 7: this country once again.

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Speaker 2: Right, A longer term solution, which cord of the polling

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Speaker 2: you guys did this survey you conducted voter seed bigger

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Speaker 2: economic fixes, not short term controls, is more convincing solutions,

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Speaker 2: so people will embrace this idea of let's say, for example,

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Speaker 2: something I've been on a tearr on. You know, it

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Speaker 2: may be moving forward towards small nuclear reactors, reducing the

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Speaker 2: regulatory burden to allow them to be built more cheaper

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Speaker 2: and more efficiently, thus bringing online some very reliable power

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Speaker 2: without your carbon dog soil. I'll put whatever, but that

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Speaker 2: is a longer term that's not going to be done overnight.

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Speaker 2: But if I suppose if Americans can see some progress

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Speaker 2: going down that road, they may see some hope at

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Speaker 2: least that their electricity bill might go out or at

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Speaker 2: least that their lights will stay on.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, And part of that polling that we did as well, right,

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Speaker 7: is we didn't just kind of gauge, Hey, what's the

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Speaker 7: most important issuest to you and what do you think

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Speaker 7: IRIS needs to do?

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Speaker 1: You know, that's pretty straightforward point.

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Speaker 7: We didn't took it a level deeper, right and began

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Speaker 7: to say, hey, what do you believe as an American?

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Speaker 1: Is you know, what reforms do you believe that an American.

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Speaker 7: Are going to make the most impact and modernizing energy regulations,

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Speaker 7: believe it or not, Taking law that were enacted in

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Speaker 7: the late sixties, early seventies.

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Speaker 1: And modernizing them.

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Speaker 7: Heah, you know twenty twenty six people American people say like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's common sense stuff, right right.

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Speaker 7: You know in Congress, common sense doesn't win the day always,

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Speaker 7: and that's why we're here to remind them. Hey, I'm

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Speaker 7: from Ohio. You know, we're out there talking to people.

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Speaker 7: These are the things they want, and get at it

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Speaker 7: and we're gonna be okay in this country.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's a really important point to remember. A

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01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 2: lot of these rigs are so old. Technology has passed

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Speaker 2: them up, leading them making them look sort of comical

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Speaker 2: on paper now, you know, I go back to the

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Speaker 2: like for example, one of my favorite pet peeves the

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Speaker 2: fifty five mile an hour speed them and now sixty

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Speaker 2: five in a lot of places. But that was put

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Speaker 2: in place when breaks were all drum breaks and it

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Speaker 2: took like nine years to bring your car to a

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Speaker 2: stop and cars weighed about ninety jillion pounds. It didn't

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Speaker 2: have airbags and anti lock breaks. It's just a dumb rule.

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Speaker 2: It's past its prime. That's just a little side note

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Speaker 2: on yeah, how O, how laws and rules don't age? Well,

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Speaker 2: I want to bring it back down some of the

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Speaker 2: important fundings from the surveys. It turns out people are

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Speaker 2: really really astute to where the problems come from government.

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Speaker 2: Maybe more with Donald and O'Neil for Americans for Prosperity,

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Speaker 2: but if you're serious about improving your shooting, what an

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Speaker 2: important thing to know about seven forty here fifty bove

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Speaker 2: KRCD talk station Americans for Prosperity help them help you.

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01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 2: It's easy to help out with AFP and learn how to.

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01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 2: Octors will tell you how to do that, give you

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Speaker 2: the skills you need. Help out in any level. You

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01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 2: can a little bit, a lot either way. We'll take

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Speaker 2: whatever we can get. In terms of spreading the message,

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01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 2: there's a better way out there, one that can lead

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Speaker 2: to affordability. Of course, affordability a key issue, and that's

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Speaker 2: what this survey shows. AFP did a survey with along

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Speaker 2: with a couple of other organizations, and you know, Donovan

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Speaker 2: and Neil, I'm really refreshed to see the results of

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Speaker 2: the survey. People, I guess are really astute. They know

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Speaker 2: where the fault lies, and that is basically government. I mean,

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Speaker 2: percentage of people that believe government is making things harder

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Speaker 2: not easier is overwhelming. Sixty one percent says government makes

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Speaker 2: it harder rather than easier. Three quarters say government actions

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Speaker 2: contribute to higher consumer prices. So we're not dumb as

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Speaker 2: they take us to be. Donovan, No, that's absolutely right.

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Speaker 7: I mean, the voters know where the problems lie, and

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Speaker 7: I think you know that's part of the you know,

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Speaker 7: if there's any silver lining to the last several years,

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Speaker 7: you know, from COVID through the Bidenomics era. Is folks

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01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 7: saw the impact government can have on their lives, the

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Speaker 7: negative impact government can have on their lives, and they said, look,

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Speaker 7: we don't need more you know, welfare programs. We don't

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Speaker 7: need more handouts even hand ups.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 7: What we want is Congress government to do the things

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Speaker 7: it's got to do to kind of modernize the laws,

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01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 7: clean up the regulatory regime, and really just empower people, right,

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Speaker 7: create an environment where people could make their American dream possible.

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Speaker 7: From healthcare, where we're sending money to you know, you know,

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Speaker 7: the six largest health insurance companies through you know, Unaffordable

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Speaker 7: Care Act subsidies, instead of doing that, how do we

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Speaker 7: put it into health savings accounts?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let the money follow the people. Like this big

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Speaker 2: trend we're all on with school choice, same thing applies.

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Speaker 7: Well, the same with energy, right, Instead of picking winners

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Speaker 7: and losers in the energy marketplace like we've been doing

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Speaker 7: for twenty thirty years now, you know, picking wind and solar,

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Speaker 7: which are fine, right, but we're picking that over baseload

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Speaker 7: generation like your favorite nuclear and coal and oil and gas. Right,

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Speaker 7: Instead of doing that, how about we just create an

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Speaker 7: environment where all energy players you know, based on the

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Speaker 7: market cost of bringing that energy to the grid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, get to get to decide, right, But yeah, how.

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Speaker 2: About yeah, our FP submit us an energy proposal to

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Speaker 2: those who can provide energy, submit your proposal for energy.

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Speaker 2: We will judge it on its merits. The best way

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Speaker 2: to go is what what does your RFP say, how

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Speaker 2: much can your windmill generate? If that's the way you

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Speaker 2: want to go compared to say, somebody else, you might

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Speaker 2: go with more traditional power generation methodologies like natural gas, coal, nuclear, whatever.

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Speaker 2: So if one is obviously better than the other, then

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Speaker 2: you go with the one that's better. That's not bad.

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Speaker 2: That way everybody compete. But we all know that without

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Speaker 2: subsidies from the government, solar and wind can't compete in

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Speaker 2: terms of volume of power and reliability of power.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, and that's the you know, to put a

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Speaker 7: you know, underlying bold and put an acclamation mark on it.

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Speaker 7: That's that's what the American people want, right is getting

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Speaker 7: government out of the way. They believe government makes things harder,

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Speaker 7: not easier. And you know, Congress has a number of

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Speaker 7: bills and number of things they can do right now

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Speaker 7: today if they have the willpower to do it and

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Speaker 7: set it to the President's desk for signature that we

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Speaker 7: get government out of the way.

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Speaker 1: We just got to get them on track to do

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Speaker 1: it well.

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Speaker 2: And one of the examples you pointed out in the

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Speaker 2: materials about what we can do and a great illustration

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Speaker 2: of the problem that you and I are talking about,

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Speaker 2: you know, on a ten thousand foot level, on a

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Speaker 2: specific level, and going back to the not short term fixes,

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Speaker 2: but longer term solutions. Recently, I think it was the

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump suspended the Jones Act in order to bring

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Speaker 2: about greater shipping. Now, the Jones Act forces the the

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Speaker 2: US ports to only carry goods be only carried on

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Speaker 2: vessels that are built, owned and crewed by Americans. Donovan,

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Speaker 2: I don't even know the make ships in America anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of an offshore problem with that. So that

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Speaker 2: really increases the cost of shipping just getting rid of that.

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Speaker 2: And Donald Trump demonstrated that, well, we're gonna wave that

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Speaker 2: for a while to get through these problems. Waving it

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Speaker 2: reduces prices. Same thing goes with just the other day

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Speaker 2: he said he's gonna wave the summer gas rules as

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Speaker 2: soon as today. Summer gas rules which make you remix

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Speaker 2: to reduce smog in the summertime that increases the price

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Speaker 2: of gasoline. Look, how about a long term fix, just

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Speaker 2: get rid of the damn thing. So there's two things

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Speaker 2: right there, quick solutions which will provide long term relief.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, you know.

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Speaker 7: And again, you know a lot of these laws, all

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Speaker 7: of these laws get enacted because somebody feels like it's

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Speaker 7: gonna make things better, right, or trying to solve some problem,

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Speaker 7: But they don't count among that are the downstream effects

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Speaker 7: of the you know, these top down policy making out

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Speaker 7: of Washington, DC. You know, kudos to the President Trump

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Speaker 7: for identifying the Jones Act, right, especially, you know, if

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Speaker 7: we're gonna be involved in a protracted conflict in the

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Speaker 7: Middle East and we're gonna tie our hands with some

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Speaker 7: arb tray laws like the Jones Act that make it

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Speaker 7: harder to get products, goods, and services moves around this

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Speaker 7: country or into this country.

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Speaker 1: Good all the President for you know, putting that Jones

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Speaker 1: Act down.

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Speaker 7: But again, we don't want to do it, if you know,

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Speaker 7: if it's good, right, if we saw this during COVID too,

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Speaker 7: with so many weird healthcare rules, right, like, hey, you

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Speaker 7: can't you can't get a prescription unless you go in

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Speaker 7: and have the doctor see you. Right, you pay for that,

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Speaker 7: or you can't you know, go see a doctor to

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Speaker 7: get a you know, a medicine if you've got the flu,

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Speaker 7: like tell amedicine.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 7: Well, we saw the silliness of these arbitrary rules that

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Speaker 7: were put into place to force people's behaviors. You know,

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Speaker 7: we got rid of them. Jones Act is another example

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Speaker 7: of that. We can get rid of that today. Let's

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Speaker 7: not just good just to pause it temporarily, but like

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Speaker 7: Congress could go act today, remove the Jones Act and

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Speaker 7: make make shipping and the access to goods and services

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Speaker 7: in this country much much more easier if again, if

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Speaker 7: they get focused on the right mission.

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Speaker 2: Well, and by overwhelming numbers, voters believe government actions well

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Speaker 2: raise consumer prices. And overwhelmingly they say government regulations specifically

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Speaker 2: increased costs. And one of the illustrations you provided in

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Speaker 2: your materials with AFP is the bullet that we dodged

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Speaker 2: coming out of the US Department of Energy. They were

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Speaker 2: proposing that rule that altered the standards for commercial refrigerators

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Speaker 2: and freezers, like they've done with so many other things. Oh,

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Speaker 2: you're going to shave a little bit of money over

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Speaker 2: the years. This is going to keep x amount of

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Speaker 2: carbon out of the atmosphere, But the price of the

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Speaker 2: damn thing's going to go up. And you got to

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Speaker 2: rely on the grid because everything's electric. Nobody wanted that,

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Speaker 2: and fortunately it didn't go into effect, but clearly the

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Speaker 2: price of these specific appliance was going to increase. And

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Speaker 2: because electricity has gone through the roof for a lot

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Speaker 2: of reasons we've talked about this morning, the price of

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Speaker 2: operating it's going to go up, So no net savings overall.

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Speaker 2: And gee, what is the elimination of carbon from a

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Speaker 2: dryer going to do for the planet given the naturally

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Speaker 2: occurring phenomena like a wildfire of volcano Negate, all of

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Speaker 2: human efforts to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

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Speaker 7: Donovan and Neil, Well, well absolutely know what I would

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Speaker 7: say to that, and the message we're bringing the Capitol

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Speaker 7: Hill today as we go and have these meetings throughout

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Speaker 7: the day to day and tomorrow is going to be Look,

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Speaker 7: you know, congressmen, you worked your district, You've knocked doors,

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Speaker 7: you've met with constituents, You've been on record saying the

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Speaker 7: things that we need to get done. We've got two

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Speaker 7: opportunities this year, right in a midterm election year. Either

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01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 7: we can you know, you can hunker down, take the

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Speaker 7: losses and potentially lose the majority, in which case, you know,

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Speaker 7: the last two years of President Trump's administration a very

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Speaker 7: severe lame duck. Or you know, you can follow through

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Speaker 7: one of the things you know, just as an American

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Speaker 7: citizen need to happen in this country that Republicans have

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Speaker 7: the majority to act on today. And you know, worst case,

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Speaker 7: you know, trends continue like they do and Democrats take

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Speaker 7: control of Washington and Congress.

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Speaker 1: But along that path, we made good things happen.

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Speaker 7: We fixed the problems that so many people have, you know,

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Speaker 7: kicked the proverbial can down.

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Speaker 1: The road on that we know will work.

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Speaker 7: And by the way, I think, Brian, if we go

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Speaker 7: do those things, your organizations like our is going to

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01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 7: be out there advocating and reminding folks. Hey, you know,

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01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 7: folks like Warren Davidson, David Taylor, you know, vote for

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Speaker 7: these folks like Greg Landsman voted against common sense, you know,

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01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,640
Speaker 7: reforms to our country, and you know, voter so and

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01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 7: so maybe you should remember that when you have a

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Speaker 7: ballot box in November.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Don't get caught up in the moment right now. Yes,

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Speaker 2: things are a little rocky right now, but if you

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01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 2: think about long term and the big picture, which everyone

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01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 2: seems to want, we've got great results that you can

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Speaker 2: show two people as you go door to door, look

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01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 2: what was done, and you run the risk of the

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01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 2: Democrats unfixing it or breaking it and putting us back

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01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 2: in a bad place that we were. Donald and Neil

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Speaker 2: Americans for Prosperity it's AFP action dot com where folks

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Speaker 2: go to get involved, right Donovan.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's if you want to get involved on the

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01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,799
Speaker 7: work to you know, keep Senator John Houstead in office.

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Speaker 1: Well about if you want to learn about.

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01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 7: This affordability campaign and the work we're doing there, go

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01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 7: to Americans for Prosperity dot org slash affordability and you

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01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 7: can download the playbook and maybe send it over.

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Speaker 1: To your congressman. Let them know you want to see them

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Speaker 1: put it into action.

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Speaker 2: Easy action item for people to accomplish without even Hey,

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01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 2: don't hang your hat on it. But things looked at

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01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,560
Speaker 2: least pretty decent in oral argument just in front of

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court. A group of thirteen asylum seekers fought

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Speaker 2: a suit back in twenty seventeen challenging the policy called metering.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Metering is where border agents in the United States, primarily

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Speaker 2: ports of entry, turn away asylum seekers to avoid overcrowding.

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Speaker 2: Federal law says that any alien who is physically present

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Speaker 2: in the United States or who arrives in the United

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Speaker 2: States may apply for asylum may regardless of legal status.

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Speaker 2: So the planners are arguing that just showing up at

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Speaker 2: the border is complies with that. In the United States argument,

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01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 2: Sam Belita says, do you think someone who comes in

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Speaker 2: the front door of a house and knocks at the

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Speaker 2: door has arrived in the house? Great question, Sam, Metering

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Speaker 2: in case you think this is some evil Trumpian proposition

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01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 2: started under who do you think?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 2: Barack Obama and continued until it was resented by Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden in twenty twenty one, although the administration, the Biden

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Speaker 2: administration can continued to defend the legality of metering in court.

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01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 2: So not doing it, but we say we can do it,

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Speaker 2: providing them with a measure of flexibility should they need

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Speaker 2: metering again. Soum seekers argue the policy violate of the

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Speaker 2: Immigration Nationality Act, which requires immigration officers to inspect quote

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Speaker 2: an alien present in the United States who has not

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Speaker 2: been admitted or who arrives in the United States. See

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Speaker 2: I keep emphasizing the word in because if you're not

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Speaker 2: at the front or if you're at the front door,

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01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 2: you ain't in the house, sam Alito. So of course

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01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 2: the liberal justices tend to push back on that. But

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Speaker 2: if history is any guid given the makeup of the court,

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Speaker 2: we may get some resolution on that very important issue.

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Speaker 1: Wait for it.

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Speaker 2: It'll be out in several months, presumably seven point fifty six.

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Speaker 2: Don't have to wait for him. A six here fifty

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Speaker 2: five carseed he talks totation. Very happy Wednesday to you

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Speaker 2: love those empower Youth seminars and thinking a Dan Regnold

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Speaker 2: who created the Power Youth Seminar series. Tonight, we have

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Speaker 2: got a special empower Use seminar taking place at seven pm,

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01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 2: as they all do. You can show up a three

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Speaker 2: undred grede Oaks drive and the side annex, or log

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Speaker 2: in from the comfort of your own home by going

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Speaker 2: to empower you America dot org. But first register you're

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01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 2: gonna get a couple of things. Last week we talked

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01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 2: with Adam Kaylor about the Cincinnati Exchange, his opportunity for

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01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 2: everyone to get involved in reporting, and he's making it

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Speaker 2: really simple to do that. That's the take twenty but

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Speaker 2: the primary speaker tonight. Welcome back to the fifty five

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Speaker 2: KRSSE Morning Show. Tom Hagenhorn, who has been researching and

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01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 2: talking about the many facets of Western socialism and progressivism

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Speaker 2: over the last multiple years. He's given other talks that

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Speaker 2: empower you on socialism, socialism in the USA, a brief

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Speaker 2: history ESG, introducing our new World government, American education and

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Speaker 2: it's takeover by international socialism, as well as the climate

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Speaker 2: calamity Climate Change Exposed. Welcome back to the fifty five

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Speaker 2: CARSSE Morning Show. Tom Haggard Orn. You're gonna be doing

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Speaker 2: a speech tonight about the update on socialist efforts to

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Speaker 2: change America. It's good to have you back on the show, Tom, Yes.

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Speaker 8: Sir, excited to be with you this morning, Brian, and

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Speaker 8: to be there tonight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I saw that Campus Reporting, Sir. They did a survey

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Speaker 2: of young people and really disturbing to find out that

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Speaker 2: the very substantial majority of young people, say age twenty

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Speaker 2: to thirty five, or whatever. Young From my standpoint, anyway,

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Speaker 2: I think that socialism is a great thing. Like sixty

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Speaker 2: five seventy percent say socialism is a better way than

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Speaker 2: I guess capitalism. About thirty five percent, if I'm remembering

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Speaker 2: the figures correctly, in that survey, said communism. They embrace

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Speaker 2: communism as well. I don't know where this comes from,

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Speaker 2: because I try to view things through the lens of

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Speaker 2: common sense and reason, and I find the old concept

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Speaker 2: of socialism not only offensive conceptually, but if I bother

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Speaker 2: to look back in history, a failed effort every time

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Speaker 2: it's been tried. How in the hell is it that

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Speaker 2: so many people think it's the right.

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Speaker 1: Way to go.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's because of our educational system. And I know

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Speaker 8: this will raise people's eyebrows and they'll wonder, well, that

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Speaker 8: can't be happening at my Forest Hill School district, or

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Speaker 8: Lakota or Mason or Batavia. But yes it is, and

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Speaker 8: it's been actually a plan that started about one hundred

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Speaker 8: years ago, and it's indisputable. Really. So that's going to

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Speaker 8: be about a fourth of my talk tonight, bouncing off

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Speaker 8: of the survey. I'll give you I've got it right here,

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Speaker 8: and I'll go to survey right here in front of me.

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Speaker 8: So here's what happened, was the socialist plan really didn't.

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Speaker 8: It took them like sixty years to get it embedded

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Speaker 8: in our school system, but by nineteen eighty it had

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01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 8: been so baby boomers an older right now, they have

1709
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 8: a positive Their positive image of socialism is twenty four

1710
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 8: percent capitalism sixty three, so it's a three to one ratio.

1711
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 8: Capitalism them beat socialism. But if you go to the

1712
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 8: youngest people ages eighteen to twenty eight, it's about even

1713
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 8: fifty five percent have a positive view of socialism fifty

1714
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 8: seven percent capitalism, which is a little bit puzzling. But yeah, people,

1715
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 8: I guess they think, well, a little bit of each

1716
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 8: is okay.

1717
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 2: Well with tomic let me interject real quick. Let me

1718
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:25,640
Speaker 2: just interject real quick. Without capitalism, there can be no socialism.

1719
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 8: That's well the socialist Lifalin, Styalin and and China has

1720
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 8: figured that out, haven't they.

1721
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 1: Yes, they have.

1722
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 8: They have elements of private of free markets. Elements of

1723
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 8: free markets.

1724
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the green energy equipment they sell us while

1725
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 2: they build coal plants, laughing, while they sell us a

1726
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 2: bill of goods that they have perpetuated in social media

1727
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 2: and elsewhere.

1728
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 8: If you look at the other age practice. I'm not

1729
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:57,520
Speaker 8: going to get into the you know, the eye glazing

1730
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 8: detail numbers, but generation by generation it's been progressively as people,

1731
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 8: as people younger people have gone have been more and

1732
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 8: more exposed to the system, and it's gotten worse over

1733
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 8: the years. Socialism goes from twenty four to twenty seven

1734
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 8: to thirty seven to fifty five percent. It's our school systems, Brian,

1735
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 8: and it's your I'm telling people out there, your kids,

1736
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 8: your grandkids, it's their school system that you probably you know,

1737
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 8: love going to the games, and you went there and

1738
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:36,719
Speaker 8: you just think it's great. It's subtle, but it's there,

1739
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 8: and it starts in pre school, literally starts in pre

1740
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:42,440
Speaker 8: school propaganda.

1741
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tom propaganda, this whole idea of pre k education,

1742
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 2: incorporating that into the public education system, that you're going

1743
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 2: to bring your little babies in and have them, you know,

1744
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 2: I think about suffering the children to come unto me.

1745
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 2: You can teach little children that Santa Claus is a

1746
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 2: real thing. You can teach children socialism always works. Just

1747
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 2: get them there early enough and they don't have any

1748
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 2: context with which to refute your propositions. That's frightening stuff.

1749
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 2: This is an indoctrination past.

1750
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 8: Your teacher and how long how many hours does the

1751
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 8: school system have your kid every week? I know, for

1752
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 8: every week, every year, year after year after year.

1753
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, more than mom and dad.

1754
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 8: When they're little. And they're also getting there totally propagandized

1755
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:31,759
Speaker 8: about climate change too, which is another one of my topics. Tonight,

1756
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 8: same thing, same thing. You start them at five and

1757
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 8: have them recycling and teach them how terrible it is

1758
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 8: all the things that we're doing to despoil the environment.

1759
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 8: And there you go.

1760
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 2: Well, I know it may have been misattributed, but widely

1761
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 2: attributed to Soviet Premier Nikita Krushev. We will destroy you

1762
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 2: from within, guess is exactly what happens. You just embed

1763
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 2: their the indoctrination folks, i e. Teachers and you pollute

1764
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 2: the children's minds that that the best way to go,

1765
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 2: and this is where you end up. We were talking

1766
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 2: earlier with Jack Advan about maybe these we're going through

1767
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 2: maybe a reformation process here, a growing, massively growing and

1768
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 2: not telling you anything you don't know toms. This idea

1769
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 2: of school choice embraced widely among many and who would

1770
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 2: be who would be against it? This is one of

1771
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 2: the reasons many people want to go with school choice.

1772
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 2: I don't want my child being indoctrinated, you.

1773
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:27,679
Speaker 8: Know, yeah, right right, Well we're what we're up against

1774
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 8: is a very powerful union, very powerful union that the

1775
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:36,480
Speaker 8: Republicans are scared about. The ANA, the National Education Association

1776
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:42,839
Speaker 8: in Ohio it's the OEA Ohio Education Association, and and

1777
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 8: all the teachers' unions in your local school district. The

1778
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:51,639
Speaker 8: union who runs the school districts. The teachers' unions they

1779
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 8: run it. It's not the board, it's not the board,

1780
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,840
Speaker 8: it's not even the superintendent really runs it. But the

1781
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 8: superintendent he doesn't. He wants an easy life. And if

1782
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 8: he fights the teachers union very much at all, he's

1783
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 8: gonna have a rough way to go. Well, the teachers

1784
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:12,719
Speaker 8: unions run the school districts.

1785
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 2: But you'd think, I mean, at minimum, you think the

1786
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 2: teachers union, and I think this is exactly what they stand,

1787
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 2: what they want. They they're there for themselves. Like all unions,

1788
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 2: it's for the workers who are part of the union,

1789
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 2: but the teachers union goes beyond that. They are a

1790
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 2: political organization and they embrace as a union platform. Basically

1791
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,919
Speaker 2: this political ideology which you and I find so offensive,

1792
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 2: which is making our children idiots. So I know, and

1793
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:37,840
Speaker 2: you say, you know, there's a teachers union, there's some

1794
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 2: teachers out there that my listening audience going, that's not me,

1795
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 2: it's not me. Yeah, but if you're a member of

1796
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 2: that union, it really is. And they're doing something that

1797
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 2: you personally reject philosophically and politically, and yet there they are.

1798
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 2: So I don't know how they have been given so

1799
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,320
Speaker 2: much power and where the fear comes from. I mean,

1800
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 2: we've got a lot of arguments to make that the

1801
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 2: teachers unions, the teachers themselves, are not educating our children.

1802
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 2: Look at the class scores. Look at this. I mean,

1803
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 2: the small percentages of children in eighth grade cannot perform

1804
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 2: bath or read on a basic, fundamental eighth grade level.

1805
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 2: That is the result of the people who are teaching

1806
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 2: your children. Know that you don't want to be in

1807
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:17,799
Speaker 2: that environment. Then, and pile on top of that ineffective education,

1808
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:20,639
Speaker 2: you also have indoctrination going along with it. I guess

1809
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 2: it's a lot easier to teach your children about socialism

1810
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 2: than it is about how to add two and two.

1811
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 8: Well, apparently they're doing a really good job. Well, hey,

1812
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 8: it looks like they're accomplishing their purpose. It's a political end,

1813
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:39,599
Speaker 8: is what they're trying to do, and they're succeeding with that.

1814
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 8: Whether the child can actually you know, use math and

1815
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:47,679
Speaker 8: read and everything, that's secondary. If they get that, that's fine.

1816
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 8: If not, at least they're going to be good loyal

1817
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 8: socialist social democrats.

1818
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 2: And Tom, who would be who is more likely to

1819
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 2: be dependent upon a government and who would be more

1820
01:38:59,880 --> 01:39:04,440
Speaker 2: likely to embrace socialism recognizing that wealth will be redistributed

1821
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:07,799
Speaker 2: into their pockets Someone who is dumb and not capable

1822
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:09,759
Speaker 2: of taking care of himself. Tom, So, if you produce

1823
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 2: really idiot kids don't know how to read, don't know

1824
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 2: how to perform mathematical calculations, you may have created a

1825
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 2: government dependent who will of course embrace socialism.

1826
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 8: Yep, that looks pretty It looks like they've been pretty successful.

1827
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 1: Yes they have.

1828
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 2: I got to go back to your point earlier. The

1829
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 2: predicate for this movement, in this push to indoctrinate our children,

1830
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 2: you said, started about one hundred years ago. Can you

1831
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 2: just put I know you're going to do it in

1832
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 2: depth tonight at the Empower Use sevenar beginning at seven pm.

1833
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 2: But can you just put a little more flesh on

1834
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 2: the bones of that statement. I'm wildly curious enough.

1835
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 8: Yes I can, Yes, I can hold on just a second.

1836
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 1: Fine, all right.

1837
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 8: So yeah, So about from the nineteen hundred to nineteen twenties,

1838
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 8: the progressives really got some power, and you know, they

1839
01:39:55,800 --> 01:40:00,080
Speaker 8: had socialist principles. They weren't necessarily progressive, but they he

1840
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 8: sort of really got a lot more power in the

1841
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 8: school systems. And then from the twenties to the forties,

1842
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:10,760
Speaker 8: the Marxists came in and actually John Dewey's called the

1843
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 8: father of American modern American education, and nobody would dispute

1844
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 8: that he had a bunch of American educators actually traveled

1845
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 8: to Stalin's Russia in the late nineteen twenties to study

1846
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:28,759
Speaker 8: the Russian education system, and you know, they came back

1847
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 8: and they thought this was great. Their view basically was

1848
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 8: that capitalism was dead and we needed to train young

1849
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:43,680
Speaker 8: people for the news for a new future, which is socialism.

1850
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 8: And so that was the basis for their trying to

1851
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 8: redesign the American education system. It was centered to Columbia University,

1852
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 8: which is sort of the go to ivy for for teachers,

1853
01:40:57,640 --> 01:40:59,680
Speaker 8: and so they were able to train a lot of

1854
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 8: teacher there, college professors there who went out too. And

1855
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 8: this was not a this was not a conspiracy. It

1856
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 8: was just a common belief that they all had that

1857
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 8: this was something good to work for. So those college

1858
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 8: teachers that train teachers, they went out to universities all

1859
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 8: over the United States. And you know, it took this

1860
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:26,640
Speaker 8: project about forty years. It wasn't until the sixties that

1861
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 8: they really embedded in the city school systems. In the

1862
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 8: seventies they were able to get out into the suburban

1863
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 8: school systems, and by nineteen eighties they were actually out

1864
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:41,000
Speaker 8: in the rural systems. The Bataviors and the Blanchesters of

1865
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 8: the world. Believe it or not, you know it's subtle.

1866
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 8: But if you look at the curriculums, and if you

1867
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:52,559
Speaker 8: roll forward to no Child Left Behind with George Bush,

1868
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 8: I've made a deal with Ted Kennedy, you know that

1869
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 8: couldn't have worked out well.

1870
01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:57,719
Speaker 4: Right.

1871
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 8: Then in nineteen ten, they put in, oh gosh, I'm

1872
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 8: forgetting the name of it, oh common Core. Common Core

1873
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:09,759
Speaker 8: was started by Bill and mel and his Bill Gates

1874
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:13,120
Speaker 8: and his wife. This was an idea to transform the

1875
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:17,480
Speaker 8: curriculum in America, and it was supposedly quote unquote voluntary.

1876
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:20,759
Speaker 8: But if you didn't, if a state didn't go along

1877
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 8: with it, you didn't get this huge pile of money.

1878
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 8: So forty some states opted into Bill Gates's curriculum for

1879
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 8: teaching your kid, and a lot of them were Republican states.

1880
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 2: Can't do without that money, Tom, That's how they got Ohio.

1881
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 2: That's how they got Ohio to change its drinking age.

1882
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 2: Oh sucks to be you. You either go twenty one

1883
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 2: or you're not going to get your funding that we

1884
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 2: took from you taxpayers, and we'll not give back until

1885
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 2: you bend to our will. That's the unevil, that is

1886
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:51,640
Speaker 2: the evil of federal government and their top power of taxation.

1887
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:53,839
Speaker 1: Yes it is Tom Hagenord.

1888
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 2: He's going to be on tonight seven pm Empower You

1889
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 2: America Dot or show up atree hundred grade Oaks drive

1890
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 2: or log in from home. Just register first. Either way

1891
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 2: you go seven pm, start timing. You'll also get to

1892
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 2: hear from Adam Kaylor two about the Cincinnati Exchange.

1893
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 1: Tom.

1894
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 2: Thanks for doing what you do, man, It's really important.

1895
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 2: And I hope my listeners will gather around and either

1896
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 2: log in from home or show up. Really important to

1897
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 2: keep our eyes on this and hopefully, Dear God, we

1898
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 2: will have a reformation. We will remove away from this

1899
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 2: indoctrination camp that they call public schools. Tom, thanks again

1900
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 2: for your time, man, It's been great having you on

1901
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 2: the show again.

1902
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 9: The program provides specialized care for female appletes at all levels.

1903
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:30,800
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1904
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 9: com cruise. I'm working with an accident in South Bend

1905
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:34,799
Speaker 9: seventy one below Field Turtle.

1906
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 1: They're over on the shoulder. I'm seeing no delay to

1907
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Speaker 1: get five.

1908
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Speaker 9: In fact, by last of those slow traffic on southbound

1909
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Speaker 9: seventy one is coming out of Kenwood down the hill

1910
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 9: to Redbank. South Bend seventy five slows in and out

1911
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:49,639
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1912
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1913
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Speaker 9: cracker jacks check, foam finger check, novelty helmet filled with

1914
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Speaker 9: self serf check. Our next guest is ready for our

1915
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 9: opening night for the Yankees tonight and then of course

1916
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 9: the Reds tomorrow. I'd go with the ice cream first,

1917
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:16,559
Speaker 9: the judges next, Chuck Ingram on fifty five KRS Deep Talk.

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Speaker 2: Station, eighty five Karsity Talk Station. Wait a minute, I

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Speaker 2: thought we were supposed to have the first opening dammate

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Speaker 2: League baseball.

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Speaker 1: That's tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the morning show, Judge Napolitano, Yankees fan,

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Speaker 2: you are It's good to have you on today, Open

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Speaker 2: Today here.

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Speaker 10: You know this is this is really history making. Hasn't

1926
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Speaker 10: Cincinnati opened the season every year since as far back

1927
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Speaker 10: as I can remember.

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Speaker 2: I do believe that is the case. No one is

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Speaker 2: ever going to rely on Brian Thomas for baseball history

1930
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Speaker 2: or statistics, but yes, I do believe that is the case.

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Speaker 2: That's why I was. I was shocked to hear him

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Speaker 2: say that Yankees opening day's this evening, right They.

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Speaker 10: Opened tonight in I don't know what they call it

1934
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Speaker 10: Candlestick Park anymore, but wherever the the San Francisco Giants play,

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Speaker 10: so it's a National League team and it's on the

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Speaker 10: West Coast.

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Speaker 2: I am certain that there is some corporate sponsors Candlestick.

1938
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Speaker 2: The name Candlestick doesn't generate revenue for a stadium, so

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Speaker 2: it's probably naming right here.

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Speaker 3: I think it's name after a bank.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that would shock no one.

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Speaker 2: Hey, look pay Course stadium right out there at the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati anyway, Judge ennenopolatan real quick here, and we don't

1944
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Speaker 2: have to spend a whole lot of time on it.

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Speaker 2: If I'm catching you off guard. But I know you

1946
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Speaker 2: always pay attention to what's going with the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: They had oral arguments yesterday on the asylum seekers claims

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Speaker 2: that if you just show up at the border, then

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Speaker 2: you need to be offered an asylum claim, and it

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Speaker 2: looked like at least Judge Alito was pushing back on that.

1951
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Speaker 2: He said, well, do you think someone who comes in

1952
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Speaker 2: the front to the front door of a house and

1953
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Speaker 2: knocks at the door has arrived in the house? Because

1954
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Speaker 2: the law at issue says an illegal or an alien

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Speaker 2: who is physically present in the United States or who

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Speaker 2: arrives in the United States may apply for asylum. That

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Speaker 2: sounds to me straightforward. No, if you're outside of the border,

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Speaker 2: you're not in the United States. Your reaction, just to

1959
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Speaker 2: my general sort of perception of things.

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Speaker 3: I think just this leader was right.

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Speaker 10: I mean, the job of the court is to interpret

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Speaker 10: the statute and take the plain meaning of the statute.

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Speaker 3: The Court didn't write the statute. Congress did.

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Speaker 10: If Congress wanted asylum applicants to make their applications at

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Speaker 10: the border on the non American side of the border,

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Speaker 10: they would have said.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 10: The problem is that for fifty years, presidential administrations of

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01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 10: both parties have allowed them to set foot in the

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Speaker 10: United States so they.

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Speaker 3: Can make the application.

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Speaker 10: The first presidential administration to enforce this law literally is

1973
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Speaker 10: the current one, and that is apparently finding support in

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Speaker 10: the Supreme Court. I would where I on the Court

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Speaker 10: have voted consistent with the thoughts expressed by Justice Alito.

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Speaker 2: Enough, all right, the record's been corrected, your honor. I

1977
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:05,839
Speaker 2: trust David is word instant message. Reds have not opened

1978
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 2: this season in many years, so apparently that has gone

1979
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:09,559
Speaker 2: by the way of the DODO.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, that I do, I do stand corrected. I

1981
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:16,360
Speaker 10: do think whoever that is that told us I gather

1982
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 10: whoever that is is a Yankee hater.

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Speaker 3: And a Reds fan.

1984
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Speaker 2: I don't think you can reach the former conclusion, but

1985
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:26,640
Speaker 2: I assure you he's a Reds fan pivoting over.

1986
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Speaker 3: I don't don't the two go together.

1987
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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course they do. I think we can.

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Speaker 2: We can assume that if we want to assume something,

1989
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 2: or presume it if it sounds better.

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Speaker 1: War and morality. I thought this was an.

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Speaker 2: Interesting breakdown, and I really appreciate the thought you put

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Speaker 2: into your column, which my listeners can get tonight. I'm

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Speaker 2: lucky to get an early copy the idea you break down.

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Speaker 2: You start, of course with history, but you get into

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Speaker 2: the concept, and we're dealing with the war in Iran,

1996
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 2: our waging war against iron. Morality on one side and

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01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 2: law legality on the other. Breakdown these concerts. Concept so immoral,

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01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:06,760
Speaker 2: and of course you suggest it is immoral. Morality conforms

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Speaker 2: to a universal set of principles designed to reduce good

2000
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 2: over evil and justice over in. Justin you break that down.

2001
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 2: I guess my question is because you're you spring for

2002
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 2: the proposition is this is immoral by all measures. But

2003
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:25,440
Speaker 2: if someone is subjectively viewing morality, because morality can be subjective,

2004
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:27,479
Speaker 2: I'm spring from a different moral cost.

2005
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 3: Of course, it can be subjective.

2006
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:33,720
Speaker 10: The people who disagree with this column would say, you know,

2007
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:37,479
Speaker 10: it's better that five Iranians die now than hundreds of

2008
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 10: Americans die later, and that is a moral judgment. So

2009
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 10: it's basically, you know, the great philosopher he was at

2010
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 10: Notre Dame one teaching undergrads and graduate students when I

2011
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:53,480
Speaker 10: was a law student. He's no longer with us. Alistair

2012
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 10: McIntyre has a great book called Who's Morality? And that's

2013
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 10: basically what but this column evokes. I argue, for a traditional,

2014
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 10: even Catholic, if you will, natural law morality, that you

2015
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:16,799
Speaker 10: need a lot more evidence before you can kill somebody

2016
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:21,400
Speaker 10: who's not engaged in violence. And I argue that the

2017
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 10: administration has not produced that evidence.

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Speaker 3: That's strike number one.

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Speaker 10: Strike number two is the American public has not consented

2020
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:33,120
Speaker 10: in any way to allow the president to start a war.

2021
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:36,960
Speaker 10: They have consented to the Congress to start a war,

2022
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 10: and that's not what happened here. So for both of

2023
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:43,840
Speaker 10: those reasons, I argue the war is immoral just by

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01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:53,080
Speaker 10: general standards of violating the people's absence of consent.

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Speaker 2: Right now, And you point out when we transgress the

2026
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 2: natural rights of others, and I appreciate the concept because

2027
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 2: you and I both that people have inherent natural rights.

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Speaker 2: Now they may have had those rights taken away from

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01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:08,879
Speaker 2: them by an evil, oppressive government. That they find themselves

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01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:11,800
Speaker 2: under at least our founding fathers recognize these principles and

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01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 2: enshrining them to some degree in the Bill of Rights.

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01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:19,760
Speaker 2: So we buy it's the old idea that in a

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01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 2: state of nature, I can literally do whatever I want,

2034
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:25,600
Speaker 2: but when I have to live next to someone, I

2035
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 2: can't interfere with their natural rights. That's the intrusion. That's

2036
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 2: the the wayman. I can't tell you how to live

2037
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:34,679
Speaker 2: your life. You can't tell me how to live my life.

2038
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:36,120
Speaker 2: And as long as we can play together nicely or

2039
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 2: not bother each other, we can live together. We are

2040
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 2: intruding on what you would perceive as the natural rights

2041
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:46,400
Speaker 2: of the Iranians by bombing them, because they well, they

2042
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:49,600
Speaker 2: represent some sort of you know, maybe existential threat theoretically.

2043
01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:52,840
Speaker 2: But that's the argument that's been put forward, right.

2044
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Speaker 3: Right, right exactly. You know.

2045
01:50:54,960 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 10: I I sometimes feel like I'm a broken record. But

2046
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 10: I thought, instead of emphasizing the constitutional issue, I would

2047
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 10: approach it from the Jeffersonian viewpoint of the consent of

2048
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 10: the governed. That's why it's a very interesting phrase that

2049
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:13,799
Speaker 10: Jefferson used.

2050
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:17,080
Speaker 3: He said that the government.

2051
01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:22,880
Speaker 10: Derives its just powers capital jay and just from the

2052
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:25,880
Speaker 10: consent of the governed. It has other powers that it

2053
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 10: exercises that it doesn't get from the consent of the government,

2054
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:32,600
Speaker 10: and because they don't come from the consent.

2055
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 3: Of the government, they are unjust.

2056
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 10: And the governed American public has only consented to Congress

2057
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:43,600
Speaker 10: declaring war. So that's what I attempted to argue an

2058
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 10: inn the show.

2059
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 2: Well, I thought it came through very clearly. There's morality

2060
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 2: on one side, and then there's legality and the Constitution,

2061
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 2: I think, embrace that concept of the people must participate.

2062
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 2: Congress decides whether or not we go to war. Congress

2063
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 2: is a representative form of government speaking for us. So

2064
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 2: the argument is that our representatives have consulted with constituents

2065
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:04,759
Speaker 2: and they come out in either favor of or against it,

2066
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:07,040
Speaker 2: because it's the will of the people, which provides some

2067
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 2: legal justification. Some, many including you, are arguing that there

2068
01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 2: is no constitutional lawful engagement warp this particular time, aside

2069
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:18,680
Speaker 2: form the morality of it. And I understand that. And

2070
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 2: you made another great point, he said, the ridding the

2071
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 2: Iran government of nuclear weapons cannot be considered a moral

2072
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:29,760
Speaker 2: goal as and this is it mere possession and non

2073
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 2: use of these weapons is not immoral. Isn't that the

2074
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 2: found the very foundation of mutually assured destruction? Isn't this

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01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:40,599
Speaker 2: why so many nations want to acquire a nuclear weapon.

2076
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 2: We're not going after the Chinese Communist Party, even though

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01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 2: they represent a broader existential threat to us, because they're

2078
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:47,400
Speaker 2: fully armed with nuclear weapons.

2079
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:50,679
Speaker 10: Same thing with Russia, Same thing with the nut job

2080
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:53,639
Speaker 10: in North Korea. Nobody's gonna lag love on him because

2081
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:57,559
Speaker 10: he's got a nuclear weapon. If not suggesting that I

2082
01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:02,719
Speaker 10: want it run weapon at all. But if Iran had

2083
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 10: a weapon, do you think the United States and Israel

2084
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:06,599
Speaker 10: but would be waging this war?

2085
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 3: Of course not.

2086
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 10: The other argument is if if possession but non use

2087
01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:15,680
Speaker 10: of the weapon is im moral and justifies an invasion,

2088
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:19,800
Speaker 10: well then the invaders can be invaded because Israel and

2089
01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 10: the US have nuclear weapons. Israel hasn't used theirs, the

2090
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 10: United States has used hours.

2091
01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what I like people to really focus on.

2092
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 2: You know, it's there is nothing cut and dried in

2093
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 2: this world. And I do not want the Iranians get

2094
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon, and the argument is to keep them

2095
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 2: from doing it. It's one of those they're just batcrap

2096
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:42,599
Speaker 2: crazy to use it offensively, They might drop a bomb

2097
01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:45,000
Speaker 2: on anybody. They certainly hate Israel and say it out

2098
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:47,200
Speaker 2: loud all the time. They want to eradicate them from

2099
01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 2: the face of the earth, So clearly they will be

2100
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:52,719
Speaker 2: the initial target. But would the Iranians use it knowing

2101
01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:55,960
Speaker 2: full well that maybe Israel's nuclear weapons will be dropped

2102
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 2: on Iran?

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01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 10: That that's why this mutual will assured destruction has thus

2104
01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:07,839
Speaker 10: far prevented everybody except Harry Truman. Of course, the Soviets

2105
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 10: didn't happen time from using a nuclear weapon.

2106
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:15,839
Speaker 2: It predated mutually assured destruction. Are you of them correct?

2107
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Speaker 2: It's great thought exercise and I'd love being knowing to

2108
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 2: go through this with you year on. I feel like

2109
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:22,679
Speaker 2: I'm back in law school, man, I really do.

2110
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 3: Oh that's the highest compliment you can pay me. Thank you, Brian.

2111
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Speaker 2: It's always enjoyable and a great exchange. Judgenital Pulton will

2112
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:31,679
Speaker 2: do it next week. I have hey enjoy the game.

2113
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:33,320
Speaker 2: I wish the Yankees good luck.

2114
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 10: Oh well, I'll be asleep by the time that game starts,

2115
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:40,280
Speaker 10: but we'll jump to my mobile phone as soon as

2116
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 10: I get up.

2117
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Speaker 3: At four thirty in the morning to see what the

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Speaker 3: score was.

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Speaker 1: You lucky, so and so.

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Speaker 2: I have to get up at two thirty, always catching

2121
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 2: up on events late in the day. In the morning

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Speaker 2: Judge Entital Palton, Real Quick Judging Freedom your podcast.

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Speaker 1: Who's today?

2124
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Speaker 10: I have the British diplomat Ian Proud on why Sir

2125
01:54:57,640 --> 01:55:01,280
Speaker 10: Caure Starmer told President Trump to take a hike, Yesterday

2126
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:06,440
Speaker 10: the Great Phil Giraldi, the CIA agent until George Bush

2127
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 10: Saddam Hussein has no weapons of mass destruction, and tomorrow

2128
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Speaker 10: the Great General Douglas McGregor.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for.

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Speaker 2: Asking, Brian, Judge Nita Pola. Final We'll look for Judging

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Speaker 2: Freedom online where we get our podcast, and we'll tune

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Speaker 2: in next Wednesday for appointment listening at a thirty with

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Speaker 2: the Judge. Have a great week. Serve between now and then.

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