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Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel tried this and he regretted it very quickly.

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Speaker 2: Everybody got too drunk on live television, too fast.

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Speaker 3: Yep, it was a disaster backstage. It was just you

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Speaker 3: can't open open bar. Is exactly what it is, open bar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can't be doing that. Well, it would take the

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Speaker 2: it would just take the temperature.

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Speaker 3: Dad in this country, though, if the news was written

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Speaker 3: or read by a drunk.

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Speaker 2: Dude, I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with you on

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Speaker 2: that one, but I respect your opinion. You know.

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Speaker 4: It's like when you go into a doctor's office, like

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Speaker 4: there's a reason that we don't want to see the

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Speaker 4: doctor smoking anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, walk in you're kind of like what

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Speaker 2: a lot of ice review?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're watching the news, sure, have a couple,

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Speaker 4: but you I want the people who are supposedly delivering

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Speaker 4: you the truth to not be hammered, like are you

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Speaker 4: sure about to?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Finally not slurring.

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Speaker 3: But you know, a little happy happy, Hey we took Venezuela.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Randy Bellman and the DV Morning Show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so apparently Jack Daniels as we said, Last Hour

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Speaker 2: has pushed back on that. They said, hey, we want

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with this CBOs Evening News whiskey Friday

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Speaker 2: thing that has nothing to do with us. So the

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Speaker 2: whiskey is like, we would never be that irresponsible brought

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Speaker 2: to you by whiskey, the thing that made the juice

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Speaker 2: that makes you the most irresponsible. Whiskey is my favorite.

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Speaker 2: If I need to go from zero to sixty, whiskey,

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Speaker 2: that's a great ad gonecond exactly. Tequila would be a

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Speaker 2: close second for me, but but tequila doesn't.

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Speaker 5: Hurt me as bad.

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Speaker 2: It's clear. Yeah, whiskey. I got some nice whiskeys on

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Speaker 2: my birthday from friends. Yeah, and you gave me a

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Speaker 2: nice whiskey Chris miss this year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it's like the Johnny Dangerously mom. I've been thinking

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Speaker 2: about taking up smoking. This clenches it like it might

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Speaker 2: be time to start.

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Speaker 5: You know, we'll.

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Speaker 8: Get back.

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Speaker 2: For years, I was Jamison. Jamison was always my thing,

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Speaker 2: and I kind of backed off of it just because

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Speaker 2: it was so easy for that. Jamison was a snowball

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Speaker 2: for me. I had a hard time having just one sipper,

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Speaker 2: you know, it would be like one turned into five,

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Speaker 5: Just it's off the rails, you know.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know. I'm not sure if I could

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Speaker 2: become a sip and whiskey guy. I like too much

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Speaker 2: like volume. I'm a volume. I need to have a

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Speaker 2: bunch of lighter beers, not nine percent alcohol.

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Speaker 3: You know what I do though, for the good whiskeys,

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Speaker 3: I just get a pint glass, fill it with ice,

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Speaker 3: and pour the whiskey on top.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, I've seen you drink the whiskey.

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Speaker 5: I've seen your routine.

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Speaker 7: I am turning into a sip and whiskey person.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Like the big ice cubes, the big guys I get,

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Speaker 4: I got the I got the nice like whatever, the

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Speaker 4: circular molds. Oh oh yeah, I'm turning into that and tequila.

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Speaker 7: I can do both.

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Speaker 2: You know. I'm gonna lose sport athlete.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, have a variety of my life now.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a cube guy. I like it.

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Speaker 2: I like the I like a crushed ice, yeah, because

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Speaker 2: it turns into water quicker. Well, it's just like it's

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Speaker 5: Slurpy taking a Dirk slurpy. Nice. Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Mike Tomlin's departure of the big news and

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Speaker 2: on that coming up from Jerry Dulac, who will join

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Speaker 2: us at seven forty five. Mike will have a report

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Speaker 2: as well at the bottom of the hour. Big Cat.

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Speaker 2: He's got to be pretty excited about his bears this weekend.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I know he said on pardon my take,

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Speaker 7: You know, we talked about it yesterday.

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Speaker 7: I just thought that maybe there was a little more

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Speaker 4: Bone, right, and that maybe it was going to be

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Speaker 4: It was just going to be changes around him, but

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Speaker 2: As pissed as I was about how feudal the last

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Speaker 9: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: And it just seemed like we were we kept nose diving. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's just like we lost a great friend. That's kind

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Speaker 2: of how I feel like. It's not that I'm like

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Speaker 2: they should have never fired him.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 2: I understand that things needed to change this time they

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Speaker 2: were all just like, uh, you know, the chiefs like

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Speaker 3: It was the thing, Hey, what are you doing Sunday?

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Speaker 2: Hey I need you to coach this weekend. Sally, what

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Speaker 2: do you say? Yeah? All right, Abby's got a news

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Speaker 2: update for us. Joe Bartneck hanging out with us in

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Speaker 2: studio in a big hockey game tonight, Joey, b.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: What's a big one for the for the Penguins, No

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Speaker 3: It's a big one in the standings, but it's a

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Speaker 3: bigger one in our hearts and minds. The filthy Adelphia Flyers,

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Speaker 3: the cream Sickles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. And Sid's kind of got to get off

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Speaker 2: the schneid tonight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no points in three games. Do you know he's

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Speaker 3: just saving up for tonight. He'll he'll be ready. I'm

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Speaker 3: not worried about Sid. What are you worried about tonight? Carlson? No, Carlson,

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Speaker 3: that's number one. He eats up a lot of icy,

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Speaker 3: controls the power play. He's actually playing penalty kill. My

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Speaker 3: partner on the podcast, Josh said, And you know everyone

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Speaker 3: knows Josh, he knows everything he goes. Other than said,

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Speaker 3: he's been the most important Penguin and Gino has been

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Speaker 3: on a tear. It's just that Carlson just play. Carlson

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Speaker 3: Carlson might be the biggest reason why we are where

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Speaker 3: we are. Actually it's just crazy. Just do you think

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Speaker 2: Jackson will go off.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I mean, I don't think

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Speaker 3: do that? He said that he everyone has it knows

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Speaker 3: exactly what they're supposed to do now.

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Speaker 3: The best thing I've seen through the last like two

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Speaker 3: he played good without Carlston on Tuesday night. He played good.

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Speaker 3: I'm his biggest bacheler. You talk about like a love

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Speaker 2: It Tang's like like an old like close washer or

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Speaker 2: and then it breaks again. You're like, we should replace us. Nah,

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Speaker 3: He's literally like Tom and you love him, but oh

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Speaker 2: Abby's got a news update for you here. Also just

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Speaker 2: for those just waking up or just joining us, John

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Speaker 2: Harbaugh has ushered in the new era in New York.

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Speaker 2: He will be the new Giants head coach. Mike tomlin

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Speaker 4: Can I ask you, do you find it surprising at

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Speaker 7: No, I am a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I not from like, you know, like our heart center,

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Speaker 2: Know, he's not He would not have been the right

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Speaker 2: The Steelers are kind of starting all over. They're going

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's John Harbaugh's forte plus.

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Speaker 3: I respect enough not to just come to the Steelers,

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Speaker 3: like he gave whatever, almost twenty years of his life

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Speaker 3: to the Ravens. Like he would just be like, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of like you like dating your neighbor's wife,

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Speaker 7: Experts write about stuff.

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Speaker 4: I've never tried to edit Wikipedia on my own. Like,

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Speaker 11: And he goes this, man, I know you're not supposed

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Speaker 2: didn't work the first time you tried it. You know,

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Speaker 2: it used to be you had to have ben a

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Speaker 2: head coach to even be considered, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean other than the Steelers, how many most

446
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Speaker 3: teams it's the guy second time around that like they

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Speaker 3: learn their lessons somewhere and then they come back and

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Speaker 3: they do much better hockey.

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Speaker 5: It happens all the time.

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Speaker 3: I got the guy's second job is what he learned

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Speaker 3: his lessons the first time, right, and that now he knows.

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Speaker 5: We look at Sullivan.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's like that's what happens like marriage.

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Speaker 5: So I'm still going through the.

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Speaker 13: Second time.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be great.

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Speaker 2: Ye.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't seen the Steelers out there. I lived

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Speaker 8: That it does. Sports brought to you by Bridgeville Appliance.

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Speaker 8: You know, the Steelers don't always find themselves in the

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Speaker 8: market for a head coach, but when they do, they

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Speaker 8: usually have a pretty good idea what they're looking for.

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Speaker 8: You guys haven't done this very often over the years,

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Speaker 8: but you've had a tight those young off your coming

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Speaker 8: to first coordinator still work as some bluebread or what.

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Speaker 12: You expand that you know for now, I don't want

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Speaker 12: to sort of put any real parameters around it. We're gonna,

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Speaker 12: you know, be an open book in terms of you know,

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Speaker 12: who we look for and and the uh you know,

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Speaker 12: the list that we build.

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Speaker 9: Uh so, uh yeah, can I.

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Speaker 12: Sign up for another Chuck Noll or another Bill Kauer

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Speaker 12: or another Mike Tomlin?

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Speaker 9: Sure? Uh, you know, somebody that we feel fits that.

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Speaker 12: Mold would be great, But but uh, you know, for now,

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Speaker 12: we're not gonna kind of narrow the box too much.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. That was one of the arguments that the the

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Speaker 8: relatively same portion of the get rid of Tomlin crowd

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Speaker 8: used to bring up. But it had some merit like, hey,

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Speaker 8: what are your friends? You've you've gotten it right three

496
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Speaker 8: times in a row. Yeah, what you know, just go

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Speaker 8: get the next one right.

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Speaker 2: Well, the league's different, the crop of candidates is different.

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Speaker 2: I almost wonder if it should be like a GM JR.

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Speaker 2: Thing where it's like we're gonna come in fix it

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Speaker 2: and I'm getting out of there.

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Speaker 8: They're probably interested in the guy that they think can

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Speaker 8: stick around for the long haul so I don't have

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Speaker 8: to keep doing this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like a wily vet kind of guy is what

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Speaker 2: I was getting at, Like Carthy or something.

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Speaker 8: I don't think that's uh, that's what they're interested in. Uh.

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Speaker 8: And then j R.

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Speaker 2: Didn't want to leave. Y, I'll find you vice president.

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Speaker 5: Guess what. And then Bill Garton went to Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and then we got stuck with Hextall.

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Speaker 5: Yeah that's right. Yeah, I I'll never forget that.

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Speaker 2: Well, hey, don't forget you know, Mario is the one

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Speaker 2: that wanted Hextall. I I you know you you.

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Speaker 5: Don't want to acknowledge it.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: The other component of the hey, you've gotten it right

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Speaker 8: every time is it's hard to do that. And if

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Speaker 8: you if you want to remember a couple of tominisms,

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Speaker 8: there's a fine line between scomping gramsonnking Wine. There's a

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Speaker 8: fine line between being a backup and a pro bowler.

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Speaker 8: You get it wrong, then you get it wrong again,

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Speaker 8: Then you get it wrong again. Now you're the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 5: Yeesh.

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Speaker 8: So a lot to think about as the Steelers look

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Speaker 8: for their next guy. One thing aren't Rooney pretty certain

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Speaker 8: about yesterday. Once the Steelers identify their new guy, he's

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Speaker 8: going to be expected to hit the ground running.

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Speaker 12: You know, I'm not going to say, well, you know,

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Speaker 12: we're going to take a couple of years to figure

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Speaker 12: this out and then we'll then we'll try to compete.

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Speaker 9: So I think you try every year.

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Speaker 12: I mean, you know, and as I said, some years

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Speaker 12: you have the horses to really get there, some years

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Speaker 12: you don't.

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Speaker 9: But you try every year in my in my.

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Speaker 8: View, yeah, they're not interested in tearing it down to

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Speaker 8: build it back up. It's just it's not part of

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Speaker 8: the equation.

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Speaker 5: So they're not going to trade t J.

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Speaker 8: Watt there somebody wants to give them an offer they

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Speaker 8: can't refuse. Maybe, but they're not. Their idea is not

544
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Speaker 8: to win three games and get a really high draft

545
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Speaker 8: pick and then get really good, because that's exactly the

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Speaker 8: outworks every day.

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Speaker 5: Will Howard at quarterback t J.

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Speaker 8: Watt that and that, you know, Art kind of clarified

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Speaker 8: what the standard is.

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Speaker 2: He said, it's trying to compete is the standard.

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Speaker 8: People misinterpreted that the standard is the standard into supposed

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Speaker 8: to win the Super Bowl every year, and it's that's unrealistic.

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Speaker 2: The standard is a is a sliding scale. It's what

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Speaker 2: you're saying, Well, no, it's the objective is clear had

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Speaker 2: more to do with.

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Speaker 5: The floor than the ceiling.

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Speaker 8: Sometimes you sometimes you don't get there, but it's what

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Speaker 8: you're trying to do.

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Speaker 3: I never saw a teacher that said the city of

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Speaker 3: ninety eight, it's the city of champions.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yep, you're.

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Speaker 8: Gonna be disappointed if that's your If that's your standard.

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Speaker 2: No, I like making the playoffs, I really do.

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Speaker 8: I have nothing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't like getting curb stomped in the

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Speaker 3: playoffs every year. But I enjoy I think making I

567
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Speaker 3: enjoy winning. It's easy to the future. I don't care

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Speaker 3: about it because when you're at the game or you're

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Speaker 3: watching the game, you want to win well, you know,

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Speaker 3: And that's all comes down to the Baltimore game, and

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Speaker 3: the reaction to the last game of the year just

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Speaker 3: reminded me of how starved the city is for a

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Speaker 3: playoff victory, because that kind of felt like one because

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Speaker 3: it was a playing game, and you almost forget what

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Speaker 3: it's like to win those games.

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Speaker 2: It has been so long.

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Speaker 3: If it ended like you know whatever, ten six, I

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Speaker 3: think it would all feel a little bit better than

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Speaker 3: the clown show that it erupted into.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 5: It devolved there in the last ten minutes, big time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Tough losses to me are harder to get over than

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Speaker 8: blowouts because you almost had it, yeah, and then you

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Speaker 8: just think about what you know could have been different.

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Speaker 2: But like we talked about it, it was seven to six

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Speaker 2: for the majority of the game, and it never felt

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Speaker 2: like we had a chance. Oh well, reform and hit

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Speaker 2: him again on those names at me so I can

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Speaker 2: learn all about these guys who will never end up

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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 8: Well, one of them's gonna you know about Brian Flores

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Speaker 8: Vikings defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Chris He's like the great Santini a. He's a hard ass.

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Speaker 8: Chris Shula, grandson of Don Shula. He's the Rams defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: This is the one. He's the one that everyone seems

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Speaker 2: to want. Everybody wants Chris Shula.

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Speaker 8: Jesse Mintor, defensive coordinator the Chargers, Anthony Weaver defensive coordinator

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Speaker 8: of the Dolphins, and Pittsburgh's sentimental favorite Nate schiel Haas

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Speaker 8: passing game coordinator for the Rams. Those guys all reportedly

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Speaker 8: have had requests to be interviewed by the Steelers. Their

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Speaker 8: teams have had requests to be interviewed by the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: If Chris Shula's last name was Johnson, would he be

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Speaker 2: as appealing as he seems to be to the Steeler

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Speaker 2: fan base.

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Speaker 8: He's got some resume, don't get me wrong, So did

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Speaker 8: so did Who's the son that's stunk Mike Shula? Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I remember Cowie used to slap him around with regularity.

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Speaker 3: And like Joey said, he coached at Alabama, he couldn't

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Speaker 3: win at Alabama.

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Speaker 5: That's hard to do.

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Speaker 8: Some of the other nuggets from the Art Rooney press

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Speaker 8: conference yesterday. Leadership is criteria number one. This is probably

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Speaker 8: going to take a couple of weeks. They want to

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Speaker 8: definitely get it done before the combine in late February.

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Speaker 8: Nobody on the current staff as a candidate. They might

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Speaker 8: remain as assistants depending on what the new guy thinks.

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Speaker 8: And oh, by the way, quarterback is going to be

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Speaker 8: a big part of the discussion because Aaron Rodgers came

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Speaker 8: here to play for Mike Tomlin and Mike Tomlin is

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Speaker 8: not here anymore, and Art Rooney thinks that that might

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Speaker 8: impact Aaron Rodgers' decision on whether he wants to continue

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Speaker 8: playing here. Yeah, I think of Mike.

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Speaker 2: Sure about that. Yeah, I think he's gone.

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Speaker 8: I would have liked to see that again. One more time,

626
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Speaker 8: get another receiver too, and.

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Speaker 2: If it was a bridge, if there was a guy

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Speaker 2: there that was learning from him. Otherwise, I think he

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Speaker 2: was at the point where he was an above average quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And we've been so starved to see competent quarterbacking at

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. Everything he did look like superman compared to

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Speaker 2: what we've been dealing with since Ben left.

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Speaker 8: And I think he brought a lot off the field,

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Speaker 8: and uh brought a lot to the locker green and

635
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Speaker 8: to the preparation process and to the expectation of how

636
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Speaker 8: you do your job day to day. And you know

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Speaker 8: this just then, this might not be a great year

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Speaker 8: to go quarterback shopping, either in the free agent market

639
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Speaker 8: or in the draft.

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Speaker 2: Dante more goes back to college.

641
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Speaker 8: Going back to Oregon for one more year. They told

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Speaker 8: him we're going to wear nine more different uniforms. He said, Oh,

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Speaker 8: I got to stick around for that. Pens in the

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Speaker 8: Flyers tonight at the rink, seven o'clock on your Penn

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Speaker 8: flagship one O five.

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Speaker 5: Joey b Absolutely, it'll be a big one.

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Speaker 8: Mike Pens and Philly are currently tied with fifty two points,

648
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Speaker 8: one point behind Toronto, which is the first team on

649
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Speaker 8: the outside looking in. In the East, it's still a

650
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Speaker 8: jumbled mess in the Eastern Conference. You know, they won

651
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Speaker 8: was it six in a row, and they were sitting

652
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Speaker 8: pretty and now they've lost three in a row and

653
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Speaker 8: they're on the outside looking in. And you win one

654
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Speaker 8: or two, you go up, and you lose one or two,

655
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Speaker 8: you go down. It's probably gonna be this way till

656
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Speaker 8: the finish, right, just a mad scramble for the playoff spots,

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Speaker 8: the wildcard spots, and maybe a top three position in the.

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Speaker 3: Metro until teams just say, okay, we're done, we're moving on,

659
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Speaker 3: and you see the bottom feeders or the bottom teams

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Speaker 3: as soon as the Rangers move a guy, you know,

661
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Speaker 3: that's what's gonna change, because right now everyone's Columbus just

662
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Speaker 3: fired their coach. To think everyone thinks they're still in

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Speaker 9: How are you well, good morning, Rand.

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Speaker 14: A little chili out there. Hope you stayed warmed going

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Speaker 2: Uh, it was a little squally, a little blustery on

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Speaker 5: I know how it's.

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Speaker 2: Being positioned, but you know, as close as you are

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Speaker 2: to the front office there, Jerry, do you get any

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Speaker 14: I will tell you from the coaches I talked to

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Speaker 14: They weren't shocked, I guess, because you know, when you

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Speaker 14: look at it, maybe a big picture like Ard kind

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Speaker 14: But now, even like some outside people that I talked to,

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Speaker 14: rand on you go. You know, I saw this happen.

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Speaker 14: I saw the way he looked after this game. I

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Speaker 14: saw how resigned he looked after that defeat, how tired

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Speaker 14: But all that being said, no, I mean, maybe somebody

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Speaker 14: people that I talked to, and probably the vast majority

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Speaker 14: of the people. I don't think anybody saw it coming. Hey,

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Speaker 14: Jake Lazier didn't even report it. Yeah, wuld surprised me

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Speaker 14: the most about all this. So now I don't I

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Speaker 14: don't think so. But again I think it's it's kind

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Speaker 14: of easy to do and maybe commonplace to do, to

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Speaker 14: look back and start looking for clues and say, you know,

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Speaker 14: I noticed this. I noticed that, But I don't know

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Speaker 14: that that was the case.

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Speaker 8: And even if somebody saw that, Jared, don't you also

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Speaker 8: factor in at least I did that. Mike Tomlin is

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Speaker 8: the most all in on football guy I can think

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Speaker 8: of ever being around. I just I could see his

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Speaker 8: career with the Steelers end in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 8: Up and away was never one of them. Given his personality,

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Speaker 8: his love for OTAs for crying out loud, and then

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Speaker 8: how stubborn he can be it. I'll show you like

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Speaker 8: I'm not. I'm not gonna get run out of town

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Speaker 8: or give up. He just ran out of gas.

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Speaker 14: Maybe, Mike, I couldn't agree with you more. I've always

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Speaker 14: said this guy is a football junkie. I don't know.

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Speaker 14: If there's another coach who worked more film than this

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Speaker 14: guy and study more players than this guy, I'd like

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Speaker 14: to meet him. He loves the game of football. You know,

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Speaker 14: he always said he's not a guy with a lot

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Speaker 14: of hobbies. You know, we've heard him talk about his

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Speaker 14: his boat up in Long Island, and I mean, while

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Speaker 14: he enjoys maybe going out on him, he's not a

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Speaker 9: I'm with you.

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Speaker 14: I always thought that also, the only way they were

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Speaker 14: parting ways was when he did it on his own.

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Speaker 14: But uh, that's why I was surprised, because, yeah, he's

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Speaker 14: he's not one to walk away from a challenge. And

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Speaker 14: even even if the challenge is the environment in the

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Speaker 14: whatever it is. I didn't think anything would drive that

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Speaker 14: guy away. And and you know, I'll give him his

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Speaker 14: due credit if it's if it's for family reasons. If

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Speaker 14: if that's the case, that's what you know. Art Rudy

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Speaker 14: just says he got the indication it was more family

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Speaker 14: related than football related. But you know, until we hear

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Speaker 14: from Mike Tom, I'm not sure we will. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 14: that that that surprised me.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the part of the story that is being

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Speaker 2: because the initial thing we heard was he said, hey,

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Speaker 2: and and then Art comes out the next day and says, well,

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Speaker 2: it's more for family reason. It's just strange to me

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Speaker 2: that that was how Art positioned it yesterday when the

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Speaker 2: first twenty four hours we were told that he was

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Speaker 2: falling on his sword because you know, he knew what

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Speaker 2: the standard was and he wasn't achieving it.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's what the people in the meeting told me that.

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Speaker 14: You know, he told the players, he says, look, I'm

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Speaker 14: not getting the best out of you, and and you

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Speaker 14: know it's time for a change. So you know, who

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Speaker 14: knows who knows? Yeah, it wasn't you know. Usually and

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Speaker 14: I don't want to you know, you know, kind of

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Speaker 14: misrepresent anything here, but usually at those types of meetings,

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Speaker 14: while the coach might be sad, you know that he's

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Speaker 14: parting ways. You know, you're you're kind of relieved and

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Speaker 14: vigorated that okay, you know what I'm done. I'm comfortable

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Speaker 14: with that, and I'm going to go spend time with

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Speaker 14: so yeah, it's we won't know and you know until

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Speaker 14: we hear from Mike. And and again, I don't think

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Speaker 2: And so he for him, I think it's going to

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Speaker 2: be a while before we hear from Mike Domalin by

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Speaker 14: Yeah, and I don't I think you I think you

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Speaker 14: I would be surprised. I don't think that's on his

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Speaker 5: And and that counter to another narrative we've heard NonStop.

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Speaker 14: And I believe that, but I never believe. I never

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Speaker 14: would that would surprise me more than him stepping down.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything that you feel the search committee that

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Speaker 14: Well, he didn't say that, but he said to be others.

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Speaker 14: But I will tell you there will be something. When

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Speaker 14: I know, But I don't think it's they're going to

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Speaker 2: Are they leaning one way or the other? Do you

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that that of course has been a template. You know,

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Speaker 14: who's your coordinator?

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 14: like that to be your offense reported well.

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Speaker 5: That would be fun.

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Speaker 2: Does do the Steelers or is the Steelers position as

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Speaker 14: Well, I think, you know, I think the way uh,

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Speaker 14: So it's not a franchise that's in disarrays, not the Jets,

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Speaker 14: it's not the it's not the Cleveland Browns. So yeah,

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