1 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Join the fans justin Guard this Sunday for a Vikings 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: watch party unlike any other the all New Hop House 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: and missed It Lake Casino. Don't miss one minute of 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: the action on the giant wall TV displays. Let's enjoy 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: the best seats, food and beverages, trivia, prize giveaways all 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: game long, hosted by JAG. Party kicks off at noon. 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Get all details kf an dot com key recount. 8 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: This isn't really, at least from my vantage point of 9 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: complicated scenario here as it pertains to how to view 10 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five Golden Gophers season. We've laid this 11 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: out extensively on Sunday sermons, and we may do so 12 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: again this week, especially depending on how the Vike the 13 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: Gophers fair tonight at the University of Oregon. But I 14 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: think Chipskogins did a pretty good job of distilling what 15 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: is at stake this evening and the significance of this game. 16 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: The Gophers have three games left. Last game of the 17 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: year they host Wisconsin. The week before that, they're at 18 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: Northwestern I think actually technically at Wrigley Field against Northwestern, 19 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: and this week tonight against Oregon. Only one of those 20 00:01:54,000 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: three games represents a litmus test that to me will 21 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: distinguish whether we'll sort of determine whether this has been 22 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: a good season or not. Can't be called a bad 23 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: season on the number of victories. I get it, But 24 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: we pointed this out a while ago, and Ship got 25 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: into this. People don't like hearing it. They do the all, well, 26 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 2: it's not our fault who we've played, it's not our 27 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: fault how those particular teams are faring. The Gophers are 28 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 2: six and three overall, four and two in the Big Ten. 29 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: But it's undeniable that when the four Big Ten teams 30 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: you've beaten have a combined Big Ten record of six 31 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: and twenty one, that's not going to get anybody's attention 32 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: in trying to convince people that this has been a 33 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: really good season. Right you've had up till now. I 34 00:02:53,840 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: think you could argue four chances to do that, and 35 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: you failed in three of those four. The first would 36 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: be at col not necessarily a litmus tests because they're 37 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 2: a great team. In fact, they've turned out to be 38 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: a pretty ordinary team. But I put that early as 39 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: one of those games that if you are going to 40 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: give yourself a chance to have a special season, you 41 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: just have to win. You just have to put it 42 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: on the win column. And Minnesota lost there twenty seven 43 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: to fourteen. Your second chance was in Columbus. Maybe unfair 44 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: to even call that a chance, given how good Ohio 45 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: State continues to be. I will still maintain that the 46 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: Gophers reached a level of non competitiveness in that game 47 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: that should have been alarming to people at forty two 48 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: to three. Despite that, I think we scored, didn't we 49 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: I think the way the first time we had the 50 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: ball we drove down for a field goal, and people 51 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: are like hey, And that was the extent of our 52 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: our ability to compete. The third opportunity was hosting Nebraska 53 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: past that test with flying colors. At the time, Nebraska 54 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: was ranked twenty fifth. I don't know what they're ranked now, 55 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: but it was a thorough demolition of the Huskers offense 56 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: and defense, especially if the line of scrimmage very good. 57 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: Twenty four to six. Again was that final and the 58 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: fourth litmus test opportunity at Iowa the following week, And 59 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: as we said after the Nebraska game, expectations here are 60 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: such that I don't think many of us were demanding 61 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: the Gophers go to Iowa and win the game. But 62 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: it should not have been too much to ask that 63 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: that be a competitive game. And I believe at one 64 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: point in the second quarter the competitive scores were Gophers 65 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: one yard total offense, Iowa thirty one points. Final scores 66 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: forty one to three. Not a competitive performance at all. 67 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: In what is now, I believe for the head coach, 68 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: year nine, this is I think your fifth and last 69 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: opportunity to at least give the sense that pretty damn 70 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 2: good season, your last chance to say to show people 71 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: that when the head coach keeps saying, as Goggins points 72 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: out about the Gophers, this is a really good football team. 73 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: You can say that all you want, but it's not 74 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: a really good football team if you lose this game, 75 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: especially if you lose it in non competitive fashion. And 76 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: that's again the standards we're playing to these days. Skoggin's 77 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 2: at the end of his piece doesn't even say that 78 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: the Gophers have to win. He only writes it's not 79 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 2: too much to ask for the Gophers to be in 80 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: the fight. Bye week for the Gophers, Oregon short week, 81 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: traveling across the country, or at least halfway across the country, 82 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: because they played Saturday in Iowa City. Admit it. Yes 83 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: they're hosting. It's a tough place to play. We grant 84 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: all of that point, but if you want me to 85 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: take this season seriously beyond oh, you know, we're happy 86 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: for you that you beat Rutgers, and you beat Purdue, 87 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: and you beat it, came from behind to beat Michigan State, 88 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: and maybe and we assume you're going to beat Wisconsin 89 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: this year and even win at Northwestern, which would be 90 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: a little better but still nothing special. You have to 91 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: at the very least finally compete in a game against 92 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: a good opponent, period, end of story. There's no I 93 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: don't think any There's just no way around that. And 94 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: you know, again, the problem with the Gopher apologists is 95 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: that they'll turn this into well, you guys, well, I 96 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: don't know who you want here. It sounds like you 97 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: want them fired. They play that game. They create straw 98 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: men argument that if you dare to evaluate or criticize 99 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: a given season, that you're all but saying, you're all 100 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: but trying to run a guy out of town. And 101 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: obviously the debate becomes easy then, but we should be 102 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: able to do both. And as I mentioned, and Isskoggin's 103 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: mentions in this piece nine years in. And that's not 104 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: a good look. If you go to Oregon and get 105 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: wiped after getting wiped previously in Iowa and iguinst Ohio State, 106 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: who's kidding who? It's an okay season. You can end 107 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: up with the fat number of victories because you started 108 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: the season with Buffalo and Northwestern State or whatever the 109 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: hell that team was that we beat sixty six to nothing. 110 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: But I don't think we're going to be fooled at all. 111 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: So let's see. You know, they maybe they put together 112 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: the best game of the season. That's probably what they 113 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: will need. I think Oregon's good. I don't think Oregon 114 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: is quite as good as people think. But they're good. 115 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: And they're at home where they're very, very tough. That's 116 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: a considered a pretty tough place to play. But let's 117 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: see it. The really good team stuff isn't just the 118 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: ability to come from behind against the Michigan States and 119 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: the Rutgers and the Purdues of the world. Better to 120 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: win than to lose. That was another thing I'm hearing 121 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 2: now is well, the truth is this team isn't as 122 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: talented as last year's team or the last couple, And 123 00:08:55,480 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, if you want to accept that premise, and 124 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: then I guess the comeback question would be, well, why 125 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 2: not nine years in, why don't we have more talent? 126 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I've actually heard some people tried to turn 127 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: this into PJ should receive credit for what he's gotten 128 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: out of this team that's not all that talented. And 129 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: I'm going, man, we really are even by Minnesota standards, 130 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: lowering the standards to a degree that I don't even 131 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: begin to understand. But it's it's beautiful for the head 132 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: coach because apparently it's gonna never be his fault. It's 133 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: going to be well, if he doesn't have the talent, 134 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: that's not up to him. And if he has a talent, well, 135 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: it's really not fair to expect this team to compete 136 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: with Ohio State, University of Iowa, or later tonight, Oregon. 137 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: So this is a great opportunity, and I would say 138 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: the last opportunity this team has to get anybody's attention 139 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: in a town where there's casual interests the Gophers, but 140 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 2: it's never going to reach anything like critical mass unless 141 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: you have the occasional game where you at the least 142 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: are competitive in a game like tonight, and at most 143 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: you actually have you actually dare to win the game. 144 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: Here's the text we got to the brade ONW Bryant 145 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: Kavan text line that just explains it all. Six' five 146 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: to one guy eight win season is overachieving and it's 147 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: not fairly. Close it is small nil. Program let's face, 148 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: it what kid out of state wants to come up 149 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: here and play? Football eight is overachieving. Period this message 150 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: brought to you by THE. Pj Fleck. 151 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: Foundation, okay come, on, okay, YEAH i, mean LIKE i said, 152 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: that on that, basis why WOULD. Pj fleck ever want 153 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: to leave? Here and he probably won't as a result of. 154 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 2: That the issue is do individuals have the ability to 155 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: actually watch games and then evaluate within a given, game because, 156 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: AGAIN i don't THINK i demanding that The gophers Beat Ohio. 157 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: STATE i wasn't demanding that they Beat, iowa even though 158 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: you could argue every once in a while more often 159 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 2: THAN pj has they should even on the. Road they 160 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: weren't even in these, games not even close to being 161 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: in these. Games and if you can't see, that then you, 162 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: know spend more time On Gopher hole that's ALL i 163 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: can tell, you because There i'm assuming that they'll be 164 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: more than happy to, say, man you look at look at, 165 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: it and it's always by the, way, again the number 166 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: of victories now that we some of us grew up 167 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: with with a football season that was ten games, long 168 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: and so we still have these stupid comparisons being made 169 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: about number of victories In gopher history when now we're 170 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: playing on a minimum of two more games a. Season 171 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: this isn't. Complicated EVEN i can do that math that 172 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: you got a greater chance to win eight games if you. 173 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 2: Play and part of it should the. Evaluation part of 174 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 2: the evaluation should be how Many big Ten west titles 175 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: do we? Win the answer is? Zero the question should, 176 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: be well where are we in the big ten? Standings 177 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: that should be part of the. Conversation, HELL pj was 178 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: the guy who said be delusional this year and implied 179 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: in that was why can't we be The indiana of this? 180 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: Season now we're supposed to forget all, that apparently because 181 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: it's not convenient for the apologists who want apparently another contract. 182 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: Extension that, man you see the talent he's, got it's 183 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: unbelievable what he's accomplished with this. Team, okay go right. 184 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: Ahead nobody on this show is calling for his. Head 185 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: you might. Be i'm. Not i'm not not even close 186 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 2: to doing, that but we should be able to. Evaluate 187 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: and what we've said, is if you're a program like, 188 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 2: this most of us are realistic enough to unders that 189 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: you're not going to be going for a big ten 190 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: titles very, often, Right but the idea is to do 191 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: more often than what we. Do what has happened over 192 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 2: the last thirty years At, iowa At, wisconsin At, Northwestern, 193 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: hell At purdue for a while maximizing when you have, 194 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 2: something maximizing. It and we got close to that the 195 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: year we Beat Penn, state but then we couldn't finish that. Job, 196 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: ultimately that was a very good, season not a good. 197 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: SEASON i called it a very good, season but it 198 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: was you look back on it was there more meat 199 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: on the. Bone and that's what we tend to. Do 200 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: and this year we haven't, even LIKE i, said been 201 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: there hasn't even a chance to discuss what did he 202 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 2: run too much in this game or pass too much 203 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: in this. Game they've been so non competitive against several 204 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 2: litmus test opponents that it hasn't even. Mattered so they 205 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 2: have another opportunity to do something about that. Tonight they 206 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: Really i've always said the players have the last. Word 207 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: they have that opportunity. Tonight again it's on the. Road but, 208 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: Again oregon is on a short. Week they allegedly AND 209 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: i didn't even realize. This according, ship they're down like 210 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: about eight wide. Receivers so let's at least make them. 211 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: Sweat how's that for a? Mantra that's how what's that? 212 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: For how's that for a? Demand not demanding a. Victory 213 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: i'm not even demanding that it was a one point. 214 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: Game how about making them? Sweat Make oregon work for 215 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: it a little. 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Ten well we got to Get, 253 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: yeah it turned It, indiana but they Got Mark. Cuban 254 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: here's what you need to know about The Mark cuban. 255 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: Angle Mark cuban only now has. Started he just talked 256 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: about this a while, ago offering up when it comes 257 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: to the football, program big money. Contributions in other, Words, 258 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: cuban to a certain, extent has jumped on a bandwagon 259 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: in which a lot of the winning a year ago 260 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: was already established and even some this. Year so if 261 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 2: it makes you feel better to think that this has 262 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 2: got nothing to do with, coaching nothing to do with 263 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: vision at. All it just has to do with getting 264 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: a fat cat who will help us steal. Players Kurt 265 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 2: signetti has been stealing players or getting the right players 266 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: Before Mark, cuban AN iu guy has spent any kind 267 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: of significant money on the. Program is it help that 268 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: he's doing it? Now, Yes but this is how people placate. 269 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: Themselves they medicate themselves in, well there's No, well we 270 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 2: can't who's Our. Mark we don't Have Mark. Cuban so 271 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: instead of just analyg just acknowledging that that something extraordinary 272 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: is happening In indiana for a lot of different reasons 273 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: that may may that may make it mean that it 274 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: could happen a lot of, places including. Here if you 275 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: get the right person and the right you, know the 276 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: right gulash put together that you cook up the right 277 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: kind of. Stew it's that's a little because somebody, SAID 278 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: i a little an eight win season, overachieving not really, 279 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: close small nil program when a kid out of state 280 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 2: wants to come up, here and what kid wants to 281 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: come up here and play football from out of? State, 282 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: again you can live in that. World but we have 283 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: example after example over the last thirty, years even BEFORE, 284 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 2: nil of programs, that at least for a stretch when 285 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 2: they had something going out of the, ordinary maximized. It 286 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 2: once upon a time went To Rose bowls with, it 287 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: which we have not. DONE i Am i'm continually amazed 288 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: at how PEOPLE i guess they this is how, you, 289 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: LIKE i, say you medicate yourself Into, Well i'm not 290 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 2: going to get that frustrated because it's there's no way 291 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: we can do anything about. It it's just we are 292 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: what we. Are that's the end of the. Story we 293 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 2: said it at the start of the. Season i'll stand by. 294 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: It Stardi mune had a great. Headline we already know 295 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: and have acknowledged THAT. Pj fleck has raised the floor 296 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: for this program undeniable BECAUSE i was here for a 297 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: lot of the seasons when the floor was rock. Bottom, 298 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: baby to Quote Kevin, McHale he's raised that. Floor there's 299 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 2: no question about, that, undeniable and that's part of what 300 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 2: you want a coach to. Do the question was how 301 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 2: much can he raise the? Ceiling AND i just think 302 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: nine ten years, in we now know the answer to 303 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: that question just a, little not a. Lot and if 304 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 2: you want to go at the eight, victories you have 305 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: to factor in how many games are being played now 306 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: compared to the ten ten game, seasons and even who 307 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: you're beating and how often you're pulling off the kind 308 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 2: of upset like they did Against Penn. State but how 309 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: many years ago is that at this? Point so, again 310 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: you could talk yourself out of anything if that's the 311 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: direct you want to. GO i just don't think. IT 312 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 2: i don't think it's facing. Reality BUT i think some 313 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: people don't want to face reality or they want to, say, 314 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: well that's there and they got their billionaire taking care of. 315 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 2: Things when Everybody i've talked to there At Indian university say, 316 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 2: yeah they're they're Loving cuban's help financially at this. Point 317 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 2: but it wasn't like When Kurt signetti got, There cuban was, 318 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: LIKE i get my check, book how much you? Need 319 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: it didn't work that. Way he's helped on some other, 320 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 2: stuff for. Sure but it's it's it's not the proper. 321 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: Sequence you can make it that if if it's an 322 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: easier for you to finesse why it's happening one, place 323 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: and and this doesn't have to be the place where 324 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 2: it's happening to that. Degree, uh break bottom of the. 325 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 2: Hour let's get back To vikings. Conversation Ben gessling is 326 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: picking The vikings to rebound with a victory over The Chicago. 327 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: Bears we will have him explain what he uh thinks 328 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 2: is gonna happen or why he is picking The vikings to. 329 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: Win does he view this again as another one of 330 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 2: those plant your feet moments for The vikings where there 331 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: might not be a tomorrow if they do not get 332 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: it done at. Home all of that and more With 333 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: guestling next. 334 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: Time now for The Vikings report on The fan presented 335 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: By Miller. 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Bears guardin AND i are talking 349 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: about this for THE tv, Show and here's what's interesting 350 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: about this game to, Me above and beyond who wins who, 351 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 2: Loses i'm getting the sense That bears, fans who have 352 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: not had much to cheer, about you, know they've had 353 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: a lot of really crappy, seasons are sitting at six and. 354 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 2: Three it might be a phony six and, three but 355 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: at six and, three which hasn't happened in a, while 356 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: and that they're coming to town to try to take 357 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: over the THE i was about to say The dome 358 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: of The people stadium as much as. Possible and if 359 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: The vikings don't do what you're predicting that you think 360 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: they will do in a close, GAME i think there's 361 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: a recipe here for a lot of bad feeling in 362 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 2: that building and things turning quite a. Bit. Right this 363 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 2: is a game that The vikings have to be very careful, 364 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: about do they, Not. 365 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 3: YES i would agree with. THAT i think the powder 366 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 3: keg last week against The ravens was pretty well. PACKED 367 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: i would say there was quite a bit of gunpowder 368 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 3: in that. Thing AND i think another loss like that 369 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 3: one would kind of set it, off especially in the, 370 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 3: division because they really cannot afford to lose ANOTHER nfc. 371 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 3: Game they can't afford to fall further back in THE Nfc. 372 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 3: North but more than, THAT i think they just can't 373 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 3: afford to look like they are a step behind a 374 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: team that they've been fairly competent and had very good 375 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: reason to be confident that they could be for a long. 376 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: TIME i, Mean kevin O'Connell i believe is has only 377 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 3: lost to The bears once in his career as The 378 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 3: viking said, coach and that's been the team that they've 379 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: been the. Best, again to, YOU i always used to 380 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 3: be The, lions but that has certainly, changed and The 381 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 3: bears have been the team The vikings have, Said, wow 382 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: we can usually get too against, them and it's not 383 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 3: anything worry. About so these two teams are always interesting 384 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: to be because they went through the rebuild process at 385 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: exactly the same time they were talking to the same 386 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 3: people for THE gm jobs in twenty twenty, two the 387 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 3: heard head coaches at the same time they took quarterbacks 388 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 3: in the same, Draft so there's kind of this parallel 389 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 3: track thing between The vikings And. Bears, Obviously i've taken 390 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 3: different approaches to the rebuild or the competitive. REBUILD i guess, 391 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: quitch you Of implemento would call. It but it is 392 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 3: a fascinating kind of side by side. Comparison and, yeah 393 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 3: even if The bears are six and, three because they've 394 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 3: beaten a lot of bad, teams they're six and, three, 395 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 3: yeah AND i think they will come to town feeling 396 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 3: a little different than they have in the. 397 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: Past key injury report. STUFF i want to get to here. 398 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 2: Early So grenard is, out, Correct Jonathan garnard And Ryan. 399 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: Kelly that's both those are those designations are both? Official? Correct? 400 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: Correct what is The what does The grenard loss? Do 401 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: how significant in your mind is? 402 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 3: THAT i think it's a big. DEAL i think he 403 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 3: has certainly been their most consistent pass, rusher and he's 404 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 3: also a guy that teams don't like to run at very. 405 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 3: MUCH i think When Dallas turner went into that game last, 406 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: week you saw teams or you saw The, RAVENS i 407 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: should say take advantage of that a little bit and 408 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: try to exploit him a little bit in the run. 409 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 3: Game So gernard not being, THERE i do think he's 410 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 3: a big. DEAL i think they Need Dallas turner to 411 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: show up and have a significant contribution to this. Game 412 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 3: we'll steal a lot Of Eric, wilson will obviously See 413 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 3: andrew Van, ginkel but they need their first round, pick 414 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: their second first round pick last year that they've spent 415 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 3: so much to go off and get to start to 416 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: make some plays and have an. Impact AND i, think 417 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: especially in a game With Caleb, williams you need all 418 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: of the bodies you can to chase him because you've 419 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: seen it every time they face. Him he can get 420 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 3: out and make things happen with his feed or you, 421 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 3: know make throws on the, run AND i think being 422 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 3: able to pursue him effectively without giving him escape lanes 423 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 3: is going to be a big part of this. Too 424 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 3: So bernard has had some had some moments this year 425 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 3: where he's missed and certainly it's had a lot of 426 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 3: pressure where he wasn't able to finish the deal or you, 427 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 3: know kind of over pursued and misses the chance of 428 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 3: bringing a ball carrier or a quarterback. Down but he 429 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 3: is their most consistent source of pressure AND i think 430 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: not having him IS i think it. HURTS i think 431 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 3: this is a big loss to, them AND i think 432 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 3: they'll STILL i, MEAN i have predicted them to win, 433 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 3: obviously SO i think they'll still find a way to 434 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 3: get it. Done BUT i think that's a lot to 435 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: come back from when you don't have him all. 436 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: Right on the other side of the injury, LEDGER i BELIEVE. 437 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: Tj edwards is out for The, bears WHICH i do 438 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: think hurts. Them brisker is listed to defensive. Back Brisker 439 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: Ja Kwon brisker is listed is questionable. Now Jalen, johnson 440 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 2: who's been out for extended, period is listed as questionable 441 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: with the groin has just started. Practicing do we is 442 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 2: the feeling that The bears might be able to use 443 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 2: him as soon as this game or what are we hearing? 444 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 3: THERE i guess GUESS i would be a little surprised 445 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 3: if he's back that. Soon when he HAD i think 446 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 3: a limited practice today On, friday the first day that 447 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 3: they opened up his, window that would seem like they 448 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: want to take him through a little more work before 449 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 3: they're confident enough to say even they'll play a full. 450 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: GAME i GUESS i would be surprised by that. One 451 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 3: and Then, brisker we'll see he didn't Practice Wednesday thursday 452 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 3: this week and just was limited On friday as, Well 453 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 3: and they really have not had those two guys together 454 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 3: on the field the entire. SEASON i don't think that's. 455 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 3: True they were missing those guys That week one game, 456 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 3: too SO i think that is significant if they get 457 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: either of them. BACK i just don't know if the, 458 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: timetable especially For Jalen, johnson would be quite suitable for 459 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 3: that to happen for this one. 460 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: Well and that's Where i'm not anyone who's going to discount. 461 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: Injuries they do factor, in but it's WHERE i tire 462 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: of constantly making about who we have missing or anyone 463 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: team has missing because we don't spend as much time 464 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 2: in this market on significant players of other teams been missing, 465 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: much if not, all of the. Season it's just it's 466 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 2: it's part of the. Deal and The bears have had 467 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: those issues as, well some, injuries not all, issues not. 468 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: Injuries all, INJURIES i should, say are. Equal but it's 469 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 2: JUST i think it's just a losing game at some, 470 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 2: point either deal with it or you don't deal with. 471 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 2: It and AND i think we have to accept that 472 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: a little more and understand that we're not alone when 473 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 2: it comes to, injury some teams might be less lucky 474 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: than others in a given, season especially at the quarterback. Position, 475 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: obviously when you're you're the guy you wanted to have 476 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: out there from the beginning has only been out there 477 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: part of the. Time BUT i think that's why we 478 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: got to not fall into that trap About, wow we 479 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: haven't argued we didn't have our offensive line for a. 480 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: While The, bears whatever their defense, is they. Haven't they've 481 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: never had their complete defense, together even even more so 482 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: than you can say with The. 483 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 3: Vikings, Right, YEAH i, mean it is a factive life 484 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: in THE. Nfl the sport has one hundred percent, injury 485 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: Right every team is going to deal with it at 486 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 3: certain points of the. Year even guys that don't miss 487 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: games By, november most of them are playing through. Something you, 488 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: know if you see a guy on the field On 489 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: sunday and It's i've won this over the, years and, 490 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 3: hey this guy doesn't look like he's as nimble as 491 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 3: we thought he. Was what's going on with? Him it's 492 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 3: like the first question you should ask, Is, okay when 493 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 3: did he get? Hurt because that's probably the case more 494 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 3: often then we appreciate around the. League and, yes it 495 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: is part of the. Deal it's part of what every 496 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 3: team goes. Through there are certain, YEARS i think where 497 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: teams are more fortuitous with it than, others AND i 498 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: think twenty twenty four was one of those years for 499 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: The vikings where they were fairly healthy most of the 500 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: way through, it and you kind of it seems like 501 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: sometimes that rubber vand stats back a little bit the 502 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: next year and you kind of go through. It but 503 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: it seems like every team is going to have a 504 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 3: moment at some point where it's there's a lot of 505 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: injuries in one spot or it's just hard to manage them. 506 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 3: All and it is just it's a violent, game and 507 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 3: that's part of what you deal with and what you 508 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 3: sign up for when you play, it because the rosters 509 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: are not unlimited and you have to forget how to manage. 510 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: It exactly it you raise in your skying. REPORT i 511 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: think another decent storyline in this. Game The bears have 512 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: used three wide receivers a, lot and that means testing 513 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: the depth that The vikings have available at defensive. Back. 514 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, yeah they've spread things out a lot more 515 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 3: since they came back from their bye. Week it's been 516 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 3: a lot more through receiver. STUFF i think basically about 517 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 3: two thirds of the time they are in three receiver. 518 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: Sets and when you look at The vikings, secondary where 519 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: they are going to be Without Jeff okue, certainly and 520 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: Then Byron murphy has struggled a little bit this, year 521 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: And Isaiah rodgers has after the electric, start has not 522 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 3: been quite as good the last few weeks. Either SO 523 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: i would imagine that group's going to get. Tested Deo 524 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: jackson will come back from that concussion On, sunday so 525 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 3: they'll be back to the three safeties if they want 526 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: to use them how they like to do. It but 527 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 3: this is a team THAT i think has struggled with mobile, 528 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 3: quarterbacks both because they can run and because they can 529 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 3: extend Place we've seen that. Happen Certainly Jalen hurts did 530 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 3: it to. THEM i Think Justin herbert probably did a 531 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: little bit as. Well where if your corners have to 532 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: cover for five or six, seconds sure it becomes a 533 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 3: lot more, difficult and every team deals with. That BUT 534 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: i think you've seen this secondary get picked on in 535 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: some of those, situations AND i think the way The 536 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 3: bears have gone about things in recent weeks means The 537 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 3: vikings are going to spend a lot of time trying 538 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: to match to spread sets and playing with a lot 539 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 3: of defensive, backs and when you get into that group 540 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: with the depth being as big of a concern as it, 541 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 3: IS i don't think that part of the matchup is 542 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 3: one that will be terribly easy for them to. 543 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: Handle let me play my broken, record BECAUSE i don't 544 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 2: want to disappoint anyone who is tired of me talking 545 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: about the running. Game but the NUMBERS i have in 546 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: front of, me And i'm sure you have, more but 547 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: the NUMBERS i have in front of me is that 548 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 2: The bears defense against the run ranks twenty five if 549 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: in yards allowed per game a static could be a 550 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 2: little misleading depending on the nature of, games but also 551 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: twenty ninth in yards per attempt in the league at 552 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: five point two yards a carry their giving, up which 553 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: would seem to indicate to me, again this might be 554 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: the ultimate litmus test that if the head coach is 555 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: still gonna stay stubborn about well first and, fifteen you 556 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: can't do much on the. Ground OR i love that 557 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: the pass on third and one because we got, man you, 558 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: know we got one on one coverage that he's just 559 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: never Gonna he's never gonna go away from what he 560 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 2: thinks his philosophy is going to. Be because this would 561 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 2: seem to, me leaving aside the struggles for his quarterback 562 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: in terms, of you, know passing, consistency that this would 563 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: be the game of all games where you, say not 564 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: on every, play but we got to have a steady 565 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: diet of. Runs we got to challenge them with, runs, 566 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: especially make them prove they can stop our run if 567 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: it's going. 568 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 3: Good what do you, Think, yeah it certainly is a 569 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: litmus test for. THAT i think this is one where 570 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 3: running the ball is an effective way to go about. 571 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: Things AND i asked him about that a little bit this. 572 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: Week just do you need the easy button sometimes FOR 573 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 3: jj McCarthy because we've seen it in games where he 574 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 3: starts to run a little hot and he gets fired 575 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 3: up and he's competitive and we get, that but some 576 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: of the plays that he, MAKES i think his accuracy 577 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: suffers a little bit and you see him probably needing 578 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: to just have a play where he's turning around and 579 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: handing the ball off and it's a little bit of 580 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: a breather for. Him and O'Connell, said there certainly are 581 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 3: moments for, That BUT i think a couple of things 582 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 3: tend to move them in the direction where running the. 583 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: Ball AND i WAS i, said at the beginning of the, 584 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: SEASON i thought they'd be more committed to it than they've. Been, 585 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 3: so you, KNOW i will admit That i've probably underestimated 586 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 3: a degree to which they would throw it as. Well 587 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 3: but when they've got so many package plays where they 588 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 3: have a pass option in there if they like, it 589 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 3: they have SOME rpo stuff in. There now there are 590 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 3: times where even if a run is, called they have 591 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 3: kind of a the escape hatch to get out of 592 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 3: it if they see a look they like. Better AND 593 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 3: i think the general principle that the head coach subscribes 594 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 3: to is if you can get chunk, plays you're going 595 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 3: to be better off than if you're trying to just go. 596 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 3: Downfield the problem with that is if you're not getting 597 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 3: the chunk, plays or, worse you're creating turnovers in the chunk, 598 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 3: plays it doesn't do you any good. Either so a 599 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 3: lot of this is kind of this discussion of what's 600 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 3: better on a global level if you're talking about thousands of, 601 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 3: snaps you, know is we talk about this in baseball at, 602 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 3: time and then it becomes difficult in the, playoffs where 603 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 3: it's not thousands of snaps or thousands of that bath. 604 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 3: Anymore it's one moment that you have to. Decide so 605 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 3: the small sample size of FOOTBALL i think makes this 606 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 3: a little tricky as. Well AND i think they generally 607 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 3: say passing is, better it's more, efficient but there are 608 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 3: times where there's probably a little more nuanced to, it 609 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 3: and this may be one of those moments where we 610 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 3: get a sense of if they're going to do it or, 611 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 3: not Because you're, right there is an opportunity to do it, 612 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 3: here and it'll be interesting to see how they go about. 613 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: It the part That i've never understood with, Him I've 614 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: i've tried to talk about this is THAT i do, 615 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 2: believe AND i think many other coaches from the same 616 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 2: tree appreciate and revel in the fact that a good 617 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 2: running game enhances the opportunity to make those kind of 618 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: passing plays that you, love that you live, for you, 619 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 2: know that look cooler and are more chunk. Plays that's 620 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 2: the part that's the. Disconnect i'm looking also at. Numbers 621 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 2: these are team rushing attempts per, game And i've got 622 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 2: here's your top Six, Buffalo, Seattle, Chicago carolina not a 623 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 2: very good, team but not an awful team this, Year 624 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: detroit And New. ENGLAND i, mean five of those six 625 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: teams are combined thirty four and, thirteen and they all pass, 626 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: well but they obviously are able to use the running. 627 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 2: Game AND i got the purple right now if this 628 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: number is accurate at thirtieth in The National Football league 629 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 2: in rushing attempts per. Game now, again in the fourth, 630 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 2: quarter when you're down fourteen or fifteen, points we all 631 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,479 Speaker 2: understand you have to. Throw end of the first, half 632 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: you got to. Throw but every number to me on 633 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 2: both sides of the ledger just screamed for, something especially 634 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 2: with the fact that you've got as much as you 635 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 2: might like this young, quarterback a guy who's having trouble 636 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 2: being very consistent in terms of his. 637 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 3: Accuracy, yeah AND i, THINK i, mean you bring it 638 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 3: up a little bit. There there is kind of the 639 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 3: self fulfilling prophecy in the sense that if you're a good, 640 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 3: team you're probably, ahead and you're probably running the ball 641 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 3: right till the clock lay in the. Game so some 642 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 3: of those things go into. It but, YEAH i think 643 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 3: it's a fair point because you see a team like The, 644 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 3: rams and that's obviously the north star For kevin o'connall 645 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 3: as much as anybody kind of what With sean McVay 646 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 3: Do The rams have been more committed to the run 647 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 3: and reached years kind of with a power running, Game 648 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 3: no question they previously, were SO i think some of 649 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 3: that you've seen the shift For sean. McVay AND i 650 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 3: do think that's where O'Connell's a little bit different than 651 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 3: some of these coaches from this tree in the sense 652 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 3: that he wants the downfield plays more. Often and you 653 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 3: see when they have a good, quarterback when they have 654 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 3: an experienced quarterback that has, WORKED i Mean Sham darnold 655 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 3: and with The Pro bowls with. It the problem right 656 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 3: now is they don't have, that and that's where this 657 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 3: is so. FASCINATING i wrote about this For sunday and 658 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 3: Asked Wes phillips about it earlier this week that do 659 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 3: you have to balance McCarthy's relative youth with what you 660 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 3: want to, Do and he said it wouldn't be fair 661 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 3: to the rest of the guys if we start pulling 662 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 3: back on, things because we expect that this offense is 663 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 3: going to work a certain, way and we don't need 664 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 3: to dumb it down for the. Quarterback the quarterback needs 665 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 3: to be able to handle everything that we're putting on his. 666 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 3: Plate so it becomes this kind of fascinating loop where 667 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 3: how much do you change things because of, him and 668 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 3: how much do you, say, no this is what we 669 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 3: run and you've got to be up to the. Task 670 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 3: and McCarthy, said, YEAH i understand THAT i have to do, 671 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 3: it AND i wouldn't want it the other. Way but 672 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 3: it is asking a. LOT i think O'Connell, admitted when 673 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 3: he is this young and you have this much on his, 674 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 3: PLATE i, mean it's the multiple, cadences it's package, plays 675 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 3: it's hard, time it's. Motion there's a lot for him 676 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 3: to direct at the, line and this is not a 677 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 3: quarterback that had to do a lot of that in. 678 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 3: College so all of that is it's a hard climb 679 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 3: to get to where they want him to, be AND 680 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 3: i think there's a belief that he will take it, 681 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 3: on but there's also just need time and that's where 682 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 3: this becomes. 683 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: Tricky you mentioned also in the scouting report The bears pass, 684 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 2: rush which was NOT i don't think was particularly effective 685 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 2: in the first time when these teams met in the 686 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 2: opener and they're down another defensive, END i. Believe so you, 687 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 2: know now we may be arguing for, well that's a 688 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 2: reason to throw because there may be an opportunity THE 689 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 2: qb might have some time to throw. That that is 690 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 2: going to be worth watching as. Well what kind of 691 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 2: protection The vikings are going to be able to have 692 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 2: for their for their OWN. 693 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 3: Qb, yeah, yeah they did a pretty good. JOB i 694 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 3: think he only was pressured on about twenty percent of 695 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 3: the dropbacks in that first, game AND i think was 696 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 3: sacked three, times but none of it was on blitzed. 697 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 3: That they did a good job picking those things, up 698 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 3: and that was back when they didn't Have Christian, Darisov 699 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 3: SO i would expect that to do a decent job 700 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 3: protecting him On. Sunday but, yeah the other piece of 701 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 3: this that comes into it is this defense has spent 702 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 3: a lot of time on the field this, year and 703 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 3: if your run game becomes a way to Keep Cable 704 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 3: williams on the, SIDELINE i don't think that's a bad thing. 705 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 3: Either it's another way to help your defense. Win you're 706 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 3: Without Jonathan grinard and that secondary is going to get 707 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 3: tested a little, bit so some of these. Things, it's 708 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 3: LIKE i, said it's this fascinating discussion of what's better 709 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 3: on a kind of a neutral playing, field and how 710 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: much do you change things given the fact that it's not, neutral, 711 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 3: right a young. Quarterback it's a team that has certain 712 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 3: things that it needs to be successful in this particular, 713 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 3: moment and there's a lot of ways to skin that, 714 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 3: CAT i, suppose but it is when you've got a 715 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 3: twenty two year old starter who's playing in this fifth, 716 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 3: game it is all it's a very interesting era to 717 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 3: see how they go about. It there's no doubt about. 718 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 2: That. YEAH i mean you look at again some of 719 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: these teams at the, top and you're. Right so in 720 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 2: terms of, running it can be they got to lead 721 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 2: late and now they're just so they're running a lot 722 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 2: told on to. It but you know as well AS 723 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 2: i do that several of, them Certainly detroit, Included New england, 724 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 2: included they like running all, along they like establishing that 725 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 2: along the. WAY i just think they end up being very, 726 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 2: balanced and certainly that's the case with The. Bears it's 727 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 2: and to me That's Ben. Johnson that's another guy who 728 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: has said as much as he likes the, razzle dazzle 729 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 2: and the fancy, plays he has no compunction running it 730 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: on second and. Ten you, know he doesn't the idea 731 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 2: that that's got to be a passing, down WHICH i 732 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 2: think In koc's, eyes that's just a passing. Down nothing 733 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 2: to talk about. Here if it's first or first to 734 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 2: fifteen or second and, ten how about a six yard. 735 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 2: Run if it's second and ten and you get, six 736 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 2: you got third and Makable AND i think that's where 737 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,439 Speaker 2: that's how a lot of these teams play and help 738 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 2: their own, cause because it's it's hard man to sustained 739 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 2: rise in this league unless you got obviously maybe you 740 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 2: know some of the best two or three. 741 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 3: Quarterbacks it, Is AND i think you, know the other 742 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 3: piece of it for The vikings is how well is 743 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 3: their offensive line executing. Things are they able to open 744 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 3: up gaps or is it just doing it for the 745 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 3: sake of doing? It AS i think o'connellson this, Week and, 746 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 3: YEAH i Remember Gary kubiak when he was calling. Plays 747 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 3: there were a lot of second and ten runs and 748 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 3: everybody back then with, hey the's not. Working they have 749 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 3: to get into different. SITUATIONS i think a lot of 750 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 3: it does come down to can you win your Matchups 751 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 3: if it's second and ten and you can open holes 752 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 3: and get six yards, Consistently, yeah that's an absolutely viable. 753 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 3: Option it's just this question of execution as much as anything. 754 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 3: Else AND i think it's in this, game in this. 755 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 3: SETTING i think there's going to be opportunities for them 756 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 3: to run, it and we will see how much they 757 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 3: commit to. That but you can make the argument that 758 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,720 Speaker 3: that would be helpful for them to kind of manage 759 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 3: the game flow and Give jaj McCarthy some. Help IT'S 760 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 3: i think there's opportunities to commit to. That we'll see 761 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 3: if this is the, moment like you say, it's it's 762 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 3: gonna be a little missteps for it for. 763 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,240 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah there's no doubt that The bears have profited 764 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 2: from the easiest part of a last place, schedule and 765 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 2: now we'll, see you, know are they up to it 766 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: when they play at least slightly better teams and then 767 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 2: the rest of the season as. Well but somebody said 768 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 2: this to me the other. DAY i don't know who it, 769 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 2: was that here's the thing that's. Weird sometimes you just you, 770 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 2: gain even if it's a little bit of false. Commons 771 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: you gain confidence if it's a losing program and you 772 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 2: just keep finding ways to. Win at some, point if 773 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 2: you do it often, enough you stop thinking about who 774 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 2: it was. Against you start, saying, hey you know, what 775 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 2: we might be pretty. Good and that's where it can 776 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 2: get a little bit on the dangerous. Side so we'll. 777 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 2: SEE i look forward To, sunday AND i know you do. 778 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 2: Too thanks as always for the. Help my friend will 779 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 2: talk next. 780 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,959 Speaker 3: Week sounds, Good, thanks. 781 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 2: Ma'am That's Ben. Guestling start To viewing Dot, com brought 782 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 2: to you By Standard heating And Air. Conditioning we're gonna 783 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 2: get a mini top five at five Before guardgie files 784 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 2: a live report From, Eugene, oregon setting the scene For 785 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 2: Gophers Oregon ducks. Tonight in the, fan what do we 786 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 2: have in the top? Five we have wild injury news 787 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 2: in A wolves game to. Preview there's a shot