1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Eight o five and fifty five KCD Talks station a 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: very Happy Friday to you. Let's move over to something 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: that is truly happy. Born of problems and an ever 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: growing population of seniors out in the world needing assistance, 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: whether in the home or in an assisted living facility, 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: and the problems and complications that go along with that 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: because quite often they are not properly cared for, which 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: is a sad reality, but it is in fact a reality. 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: When I think of my dad in the facility when 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: he was dealing with his Alzheimers. My mom was there 11 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: every single day because, of course she loved him, but also, 12 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: of course because she was painfully aware of the realities 13 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: of being an assisted living facility and that he would 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: not be tended to her level of desire. And that 15 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: is literally the case everywhere. Welcome back to the fifty 16 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: five KOC Morning Show from Heart Number four Seniors dot Org, 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: Hard for Seniors dot R. We're going to talk about 18 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: what they are doing for seniors out there. Patty and 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Roger back in the studio to talk about something that 20 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: I had no idea about now. Previously, Patty Roger, you 21 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: were talking about the modern technology you have the incontinence 22 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: undergarments to immediately notify staff through a software app that 23 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: someone needs to have their diaper change, because of course, 24 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: if they don't, they'll just follow the schedule that they're on, 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: and that person, your loved one, may be wallowing in 26 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: it for hours and hours before they ultimately reach the 27 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: place on the schedule, or they're dry when it comes 28 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: time for them to be checked on, and five seconds 29 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: after the nurse leaves the room, that's when it happens. 30 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: So the software as fires up and it provides a 31 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: whole lot of other information. It's just an amazing development 32 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: and thanks to Heart for Seniors for that. But the 33 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: reason that is a problem, I understand is wallowing and 34 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: that can lead to a urinary tract infection and that 35 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: is not good. But what else can lead to a 36 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: urinary tract infection? And I found that out this morning, laziness. 37 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: If I could sum it up, if I got that right, 38 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: Let's start with ro and Patty. I love having you here, 39 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: thank you, and I understand the phone's ringing off the 40 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: hook over hard for seniors. 41 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: We appreciate all the phone calls so much from all 42 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: of your listeners, all the donations, we really do appreciate it. 43 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, let's talk about the what's really going on 44 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: here with regards to laziness. 45 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: Well, and it started with this. You call this a TP. Yeah, 46 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: well it's a little tent. It's a little placard and 47 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: they brought it and immediately handed it to me and 48 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: it says do not insert urinary catheter without family consent. 49 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: I was looking at that. Wait a second, why would 50 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: anybody just sort of randomly use a catheter on someone. 51 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: Roger's got the answer to that, and it's sad and disturbing. 52 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: Roger explain how this happens and why it's a bad thing. 53 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: Well, there are reasons for using a urinary catheter a 54 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: foley catheter, which are pretty well spelled out by the 55 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 3: CDC guidelines. But what we see often happening as we 56 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: have patients, in particular in the hospital environment, where the 57 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: person's using the call light to go to the bathroom 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: or you know, they're they're having incontinent needs and they 59 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: summon the staff and this becomes a problem and at 60 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: some point the staff decides, well, we're just going to 61 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: insert a catheter, and that is not an appropriate reason. 62 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: That's a staff convenience issue. That is not an appropriate 63 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 3: reason to insert a catheter. And this is really a 64 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: problem because catheter associated UTIs are the highest reason for 65 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: infections in the hospital environment. 66 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: Well, you're introducing a foreign object in an area that 67 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: shouldn't have a foreign object in under normal conditions, and 68 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: I would think that is a ripe opportunity to bring 69 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: about an infection. 70 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: Correct. And so what we see happening in particular with 71 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: the seniors is about seventy five percent of these people 72 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: are going to get UTI. It's a very high infection rate. 73 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: And once they have that UTI, it goes to the bladder, 74 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: it goes to the kidneys that can go to the bloodstream. 75 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: It's a high mortality rate for seniors. In particular, for seniors, 76 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: they're vulnerable to this. So, yeah, this came up in 77 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: our technology pilot that we're doing. We've seen it happen 78 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: a number of times now, so you know, at this 79 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: point we think it's an education and an advocacy issue. 80 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: The best way to handle this is to communicate with 81 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 3: the staff of the hospital as much as you can, 82 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: as effectively as you can that you do not want 83 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 3: that cather inserted unless there's an appropriate reason for it. 84 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: Well, and you know, again, I had no idea that 85 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: this was a problem. It's born of laziness. They don't 86 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: want to deal with having to do a diaper change 87 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: or something. But the person doesn't really need a catheter 88 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: because everything I guess is functioning quote unquote normally. But 89 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: that they would come in and just put it in. 90 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: I always thought that if there was a catheter in place, 91 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: and that was because a doctor ordered it, I didn't 92 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: realize they had the leeway and liberty to just go 93 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: ahead and put one in anytime they damn well felt well. 94 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: Actually, it's the opposite of that. Sometimes. I think Patty's 95 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: mother when she was in the hospital had an order 96 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: on the chart to not put why not use a 97 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: urinary cath a specific order. 98 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: I had a specific order to not put a cather 99 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: in her because if you remember, we've talked about this 100 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: years prior to that, she had broken her hip. They 101 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 2: had used a catherterin surgery and they didn't take it 102 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: out for days. After we kept saying it, she dealt 103 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: with a UTI for nine months. Oh, we couldn't get 104 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 2: rid of it. So then she was back in the 105 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 2: hospital for a completely different reason I specifically put in 106 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: the order, do not cather her. She needs assistance to 107 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 2: get up to go to the bathroom. But it works. 108 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: She's not incontinent, she can hold it until she gets there. 109 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: She kept ringing, ring and ring and ring and ring 110 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: and ring, and they wouldn't come in, they wouldn't get 111 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: her up, and so at night they caught her, even 112 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: though I had a note in the file not to cathere. 113 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: Immediately went back in the next day and told him 114 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 2: to pull it because and again she got a UTI. 115 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, just in that short time period. It was 116 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: so frustrating. 117 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: Well, put the explanation point on Roger's pointed out, you 118 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: can die from these infections. 119 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: My father in law died of sepsis from a UTI 120 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: in twenty four hours from a catheter, from a from 121 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: a catheter. 122 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: I would say the numbers that we've seen, as much 123 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: as seventy five percent of the UTIs that occurrent hospitals 124 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 3: are from the catheters. 125 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: Not a quote unuote naturally occurring thing. No, because you 126 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: can get a UTI without a catheter, correctly correct. 127 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: It is the most common calls of secondary bloodstream infections, 128 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: and those are deadly. That's a trip to ICU. At 129 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 3: that point, you're in trouble. And so why would we 130 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: want to use a catheter because somebody's using their call 131 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: light or because somebody needs assistance going to the bathroom, 132 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 3: And that then becomes staff convenience And it's absolutely not 133 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: a reason to do this. And when you're doing this 134 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 3: with a thirty year old, that's one thing. But when 135 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: you're doing this to an eighty year old or a 136 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 3: seventy five year old or an eighty five year old, 137 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 3: you're now dealing with a completely different problem. A lot 138 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: of these folks just don't recover and it's a pretty 139 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: common cause of death. So we want to educate, We 140 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: want to we want to teach families how to advocate 141 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: because these people need advocates they do. They really need 142 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 3: family members to step up and say no, no, no. 143 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: So we came up with HEART did this. 144 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: Tent. 145 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: It's like a folding tent you can put on the 146 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 3: bedside table. It's a sign that says do not insert 147 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: yourinary catheter without family consent. We're giving these away heart Is. 148 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: They're free. All you have to do is reach out 149 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: five one, three, four for four twenty thirteen. You can 150 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: email us, you can call. We're sending these out free. 151 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: Along with that one page little flyer there that gives 152 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: them the CDC guidelines does cut what's real and what's not. 153 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: Also, it's not just some sort of random march arbitrary 154 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: thing coming from a family member. Here is our placard 155 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: saying do not do it without our consent, and here's 156 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: the CDC guidelines go along with it and telling you 157 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: exactly why. Correct. Oh, that's outstanding. Correct, that's outstanding. Well, 158 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: you know the website, as they pointed out, you can 159 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: get your plackard through the website too. Just click on advocacy. 160 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: There's a pulldown many's at the top of heart number 161 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: four seniors dot org. Click on advocacy, get your placard. 162 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: Call it a tpe, called a tent. It's a piece 163 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: of paper that folds into something that stands upright and says, 164 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: do not insert yourn a catheter without family consent. Now 165 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: is there? I'm sorry, I'm still a lawyer. Is there 166 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: liability connected with this? Because if they're not under CDC 167 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: guidelines supposed to insert a catheter and they do it 168 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: simply because they don't want to respond to the calllite 169 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: and that leads to a urinary tract infection, which leads 170 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: to the death of a loved one. Is that exposed 171 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: the Obviously, I'm saying this out loud in these pigg 172 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: terms because people in the healthcare community might hear my 173 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: voice and go, oh jeez, I didn't realize we might 174 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: be sued for that. Is that potential right there? 175 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: That sort of well, absolutely, you go, and the CDC 176 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: makes it very clear that catheters are not to be 177 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 3: used as a substitute for nursing care, period you go, period. 178 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: And when they do this as a substitute for nursing care, 179 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: they just violated the CDC guidelines for use of these. 180 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: All right, So yeah, I think there's liability. But here's 181 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: the thing, if you think about it, when people go 182 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 3: in the hospital, when their loved ones in the hospital, 183 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 3: we have this almost unbending trust that the hospitals are 184 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 3: the pinnacle of our healthcare system and they're going to 185 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 3: just do the right thing. They're not going to do 186 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: anything like this to our loved one. This is where 187 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: education and advocacy comes in, because if you don't know, 188 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: if you haven't educated yourself on this issue, and if 189 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: you don't advocate, You're going to come in and tomorrow 190 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: morning when you visit your mom or your dad, and 191 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: there's going to be a catheter in them. So the 192 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: idea here is to stop that before it happens by 193 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: putting the sign up, maybe getting an order on the chart, 194 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: which they will ignore sometimes, Patty, but you have to advocate. 195 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: You have to advocate. You have to protect. 196 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: Your elderly loved ones from this problem because it will happen. 197 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: Period. It will happen. Two people sitting in front of 198 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: me the seat all the time, one who lost her 199 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: father as a consequence of this happening. In spite of 200 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: the order in the chart, do not insert your in 201 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: a catheter without family consent. Get your placard at heartfort 202 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: Seniors dot com. Call them up at five one, three, 203 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: four four four, twenty thirteen. More info from Heart for Seniors, 204 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: Patty and Roger. After these brief words, don't go away. 205 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 4: Fifty five krc RC the talk station. 206 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: Hey, twenty fifty five KRCD Talk Station, Very happy Friday 207 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: to you. Distressing news, but I am so happy to 208 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: be in a position to let other people know about this. 209 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: I certainly had no clue in spite of the fact 210 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: my dad was in an assistant living facility and did 211 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: have a cather to one point over use of catheters, 212 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: there are inappropriate uses and their appropriate uses for catheters, 213 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: and so Heart for Seniors Patty Roger here with their 214 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: little placard, which you can get by simply calling five 215 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: one three four four four twenty thirteen free for you. 216 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: Go to the website Heart number four Seniors dot org, 217 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: click on the advocacy link get your placard. There it says, 218 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: do not insert your ain area catheter without family consent. 219 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: They're using them inappropriately as a substitute for obtaining your inspecimens. 220 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: For example, for dealing with a senior that might need 221 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: to get assistance to go to the bathroom, not for incontinence, 222 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: just because it's inconvenient for the staff to have to 223 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: respond to a call aid. So in goes a catheter 224 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: and along with that a good chance of getting a 225 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: urinary tract infection, which for most, notably the senior community, 226 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: we learn from Roger that they could be deadly. Patty 227 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: knows from this personally her father died from UTI that 228 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: he shouldn't have had a catheter in him and they 229 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: put it in anyway. Let's address the pushback patty. His 230 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: chart said do not use a catheter. They did it anyway. 231 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: And I know that you've had some experience with these 232 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: little placards that some institutions welcomed them and will honor them, 233 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: while others will remove them from the patient's room. It 234 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: depends on who you're dealing with. 235 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: So we just started the advocacy a few weeks ago. 236 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 2: We've already had one local hospital that embraced it, completely 237 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: supported it, sat their bedside, The family loved it. They 238 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: had open communication, and I'm happy to report the senior 239 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: did not get a catheter inserted in and they came 240 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: in and they helped him to the restroom and he 241 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: got out totally fine and he's back home, wonderful. We 242 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: had another situation and another institution where the tent was 243 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: removed and stayed. 244 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: A placard because it's a state tent. I think of 245 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: that camping. 246 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little tpe. It's a little it's a 247 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: little triangle tpe. 248 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: It's not very large. 249 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's per It just sits right bedside. You can 250 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: see a picture of it on our website. And they 251 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: took it out. They took it out then said that 252 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: we had to meet with hospital administration and the family 253 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: was like why, Like I want this on the chart. 254 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: Like all I'm saying is don't insert a catheter until 255 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: you call me and tell me why why. 256 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: And then you can look at the appropriate indications, which 257 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: information hard for seniors will give you along with a 258 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: TP ten placard. Call it what you will when is 259 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: it appropriate acute urinary retention or bladder outlet obstruction? So 260 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: a family member can say why are you inserting the 261 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: catheter when there's no obstruction, When they have the conversation, 262 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: and then they can go through and say why, Well, 263 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: because your father has acute urinary retention, you can say, okay, 264 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: that's a reason, and it justifies the cath use other 265 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: accurate other reasons, accurate measurement of urinary output in critically 266 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: ill patients, perioperative use for selected surgical procedures, check assistance 267 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: in healing open sacral or paranial wounds, fine, patient requires 268 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: prolonged and mobilization, unstable spine, multiple traumatic injuries, fine, and finally, 269 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: end of life comfort care. So in those situations it's justified. 270 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: But if you have the conversation with a family member, 271 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: my medical provider friends, you can at least explain it 272 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: to them. This is within the CDC guidelines on what 273 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: you are proposing to do, in which case the family 274 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: member can say, okay, I consent, Catherin problem solved. 275 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 4: Correct. 276 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: That's the process. That's the process. 277 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, what happens instead is second shift nurse decides to 278 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: insert to catheter because they're short stout, they're busy, they 279 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: don't want to answer the call light. And now we've 280 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: introduced a deadly in fact potentially deadly infection to a 281 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: senior and it's just a sad outcome at that point. 282 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: Well, and you know, I will observe and comment maybe 283 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: again from this because we've talked about it before. It 284 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: is very difficult, like with senior living facilities to get 285 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: people to even work there, and when they do work there, 286 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: they usually underpaid. And overworld they've got more people than 287 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: they're taken care of them. They should be taken care of. 288 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: Following that again, checking the linens and the diapers schedule, 289 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: there's only so much of those people can do, but 290 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: heartforce seniors hard. The number four Seniors dot org has 291 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: got great technology not to stand in the way of 292 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: them wanting to do some easy path out of dealing with 293 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: your loved one long while by like inserting urinary cathers, 294 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: but getting the software and the diapers that tell the 295 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: individuals there and that they need to be changed as 296 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: opposed to following the schedule just doing it when it's necessary. 297 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: Simple things like that can make their jobs much easier 298 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: and maybe even making a more appealing profession to pursue. 299 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: It's a tough gig. 300 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: It's a tough gig, and so many families. Now, I mean, 301 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: I'm a sandwich generation. I've got my parents and I've 302 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: got my kids, and I'm right stuck in the middle, 303 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: still working. And I mean, here's the deal. 304 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: We're all. 305 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: I mean, my mom's independent living at home. Your mom's 306 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: independent living in it. 307 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: She is. 308 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: They want to stay at home, and I want them 309 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: to stay at home, but we need the tools. So like, 310 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: my mom has the watch right and she's not in 311 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: continent yet. 312 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: So I'll tell you what hold on that. Since we 313 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: really dedicated a good amount of time in the first 314 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: couple of segments to the urinary tract issue, people now 315 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: know about it and can call five one, three, four, four, four, 316 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, let's remind people about the watch and the 317 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: other technology because this, if you haven't heard about it, 318 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: this is going to make everyone's life much better. Whether 319 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: you're a provider, or you're the loved one in bed 320 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: getting tended to, or you're a family member of the 321 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: loved one and you feel like you're a witch end, 322 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: let's make your life easier. Heart number four seniors dot 323 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: or don't go away. We'll bring them back and share 324 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: their experiences. And they want you to share your stories too. 325 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: If you've got a urinary tract infection story, it sounds 326 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: weird to ask for it, you can get that on 327 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: you can post it online at Heart for Seniors dot 328 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: or correct and you're you want people, we want to share. 329 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: Their We want their stories because we want to be 330 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: able to help them, and we want to educate other people. 331 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: And we're going to post those stories with their permission, 332 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: just to have them out there. 333 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 4: Again. 334 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: It's about education and add see, we have to educate 335 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: family members on how to take care of these seniors. 336 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: You got to educate providers as well. Apparently eight twenty 337 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 1: six right now fifty five k CD talk station don't away. 338 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 4: This is fifty five krc an iHeart. 339 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: Rate the talk station a thirty fifty five KRCD talk 340 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: station Love for Seniors. Actually it's Heart for Seniors, Heart 341 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: to number four Seniors dot or just doing wonderful, wonderful 342 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: things for seniors that are dealing with get an assisted 343 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: living facility or getting care at home. Obviously frail, maybe 344 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 1: struggling with other medical complications. Family members worried about them, 345 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: keeping track of them, helping out when they can other 346 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: people like care providers and assisted living facilities or in hospitals. 347 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: They have a lot of work on their plate, and 348 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: quite often, as we found out in the last couple 349 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: of segments, they're well taking a shortcut route putting it 350 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: a catheter in when they are not under a CDC 351 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: guidelines to even get a catheter. So you can get 352 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: your little placard, put it next to your loved one's bed. 353 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: No catheter without family consent, Fine, do that. It's easy 354 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 1: to get the placard five one three, four four four 355 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. But moving away from the UTIs I've had 356 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: you folks on this as Patty and Roger in studio 357 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: from Hard for Seniors about the advancements in technology that 358 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: is helping I would say family members as well as 359 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: medical providers perhaps get ahead of problems and solve some 360 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: of the issues with this wonderful diagnostic tool that that 361 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: watch has become. So remind my listeners and those who 362 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: don't know what you're going to be talking about about 363 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: this amazing, amazing thing that everybody hearing my voice can 364 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: get for their loved one. It's a smart watch, but 365 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: it's a whole lot smarter than a smart watch. 366 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: It is it's alert response technology, and it's really taking 367 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: the watch and putting it with our software system, which 368 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: is what is the most powerful piece ever. 369 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: That's the app. 370 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: That's the app, and it now can be used for 371 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: home base. And here's the deal with it. So you go, 372 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: your loved one goes to the doctor's office maybe once 373 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: a year or twice a year, they get their vitals 374 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: and they leave, right, nobody knows after they leave from 375 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: that one in take of the vitals, what really goes on. 376 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 2: This is twenty four seven monitoring and not just heart rate, 377 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: not just pull socks, not just HRV, two feet on 378 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 2: the ground, symmetry walking. I mean, my mom, right, I 379 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: mean I can detect early on. I want to prevent 380 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: a fall. I don't want more falls. And what's really 381 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: interesting is it takes in time. So for example, last night, 382 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: I can pull up and see exactly what her low 383 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: heart rate, what her high heart rate was when it 384 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: was all the above, and there is a correlation, for example, 385 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: in when she takes her medication. So everybody should understand 386 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 2: because we've had members that have been working with us 387 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 2: who kept falling and the family members were like, why 388 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: are they falling? Put the technology on and we're realizing, well, 389 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: it's at five am, it's at seven am. Well, ironically 390 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: it's after they've taken their medication. So for example, if 391 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: you're on a medication, it's very sensitive the older that 392 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: you get. 393 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: Okay, And one of the ones that Roger brought up 394 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: in the break was Flomax trouble urinating. You're getting up 395 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: three four times at night. Guys, quite often they'll put 396 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: you on Flowmax, but sadly, as you get older, for. 397 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: An eighty five year old, it was making them dizzy 398 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: and causing faults. They took our reports and the data 399 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: to their doctor. He looked at it and he was like, wow, 400 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: I'm taking you off a flow Maax took him off 401 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: of Flowmax. Haven't had any false no. 402 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 3: False Sense's what's really interesting, and I think as the 403 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: critical part of this to not miss is we're flowing 404 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 3: a lot, a lot of data. Yes, it's a lot, 405 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 3: and we've developed a very powerful artificial intelligence engine which 406 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: takes that data and produces for the family and for 407 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 3: the physician and analysis of all the data and summarizes 408 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 3: it into a couple of paragraphs and describes medically what 409 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 3: might be going on here. 410 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: And it's a hints in suggestion, not necessarily conclusions, but 411 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: here are some things you might want to look at, 412 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: the possible recommendations. And then we have human in the loop, right, 413 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: have the doctor involved so he can look at those 414 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: that report. If he doesn't want to look at days 415 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: and days of data, he gets a very powerful AI 416 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: engine summarizing for him what might be going on here 417 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: and giving him suggestions. Yeah, and you think about that again, 418 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: going back to your point on it, it's twenty four 419 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: to seven is being collected twenty four hours day, seven 420 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: days a week. There's not a physical I don't care 421 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: how many times you go see your doctor. No one 422 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: has that amount of information about somebody. 423 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 3: No, and it's a senior focused AI region. It's not. 424 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: So it's not I would wear one necessarily, although I'm 425 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: getting up in years. But it isn't for me, it's 426 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: for folks. 427 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: I would recommend it for anybody because if to me, 428 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 3: no matter how old or young you are, he could 429 00:21:55,359 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 3: have a problem and not know it true until something happened, right, 430 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: and it makes you aware of it. And so what 431 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 3: this does is it streams all this data and then 432 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 3: analyzes it for you. AI is an amazing tool. It 433 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: can be properly extremely. 434 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: Powerful doctor and Dave had her this morning for Tech Friday. 435 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: It isn't always great thing, but it can be. And 436 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, I've always viewed AI just from a ten 437 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: thousand foot perspective, since I'm not cast savvy on things 438 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: medical necessarily or AI, but it is it seems to 439 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: be a perfect tool for medicine because what doctor in 440 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: the world is the ultimate perfect diagnostician, What doctor in 441 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: the world has all of this information and what doctor 442 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: in the world could just literally take all the information 443 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: to the extents right in front of him and crunch 444 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: it down and put it into one neatly digestible piece 445 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: of boiled down information. AI does all. 446 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: That, and the issue is too Brian is here in Cincinnati. 447 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 2: We have multiple wonderful healthcare systems, but especially seniors. They'll 448 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: have a cardiologist, they'll have a pomonologist, they'll have a 449 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 2: kidney doctor. Sometimes they're not all on my chart together, 450 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: so they're actually prescribing different medications and no one's actually 451 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: looking the polypharmacies. It's huge, a huge issue in seniors, these. 452 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: Medicines in or are I know, you know, And that 453 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: was the other thing I was thinking about. Pharmacists were 454 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: the ones that usually were used to be charged with 455 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: knowing what drug interactions can be tolerated and where the 456 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: red flags pop up. I don't know that they're even 457 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: doing that anymore. That's just me speaking out of turn, perhaps, 458 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: But someone's got to know what the end individual who's 459 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: taking the drugs all about, all the drugs and all 460 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: the information. So when someone starts following, you may be 461 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: able to deduce that, oh gee, it's that addition of 462 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: flows back. 463 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 3: It goes back to advocacy. Okay, the pharmacist is not 464 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: your advocate. Your son or your daughter is right, or 465 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 3: your loved one somebody who really cares about you. And 466 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 3: the way this system works is we communicate with this 467 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: SAB not just with the patient, but the son, the daughter, 468 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 3: two daughters and two sons can all. 469 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: Right now, mom, Hey, your vital signs are looking really good. 470 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 3: To say you can advocate when you have information, yes 471 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: you can, but you can't when you don't. 472 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: And let me say one last thing, and I hate 473 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: to say this, but I'm going to say it. We 474 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: can't continue to advance this technology without funding. 475 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: That's true. 476 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: And I'm going to say something here that might be 477 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: a little off base, but I'm going to say it anyway. 478 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 2: All of our funding has come from individuals. We have 479 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: not had any company step up, really none, No companies 480 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 2: have stepped up. They're all donations from individuals. We would 481 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: love a Cincinnati based company to care and really help 482 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: us donate. They're small little donations that come in and 483 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 2: they're fine. But I don't understand why companies are not 484 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: supporting our senior. 485 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is tax deductible five oh one three C 486 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: type of organization we're talking out here, So it is 487 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: a and what a societal benefit, Oh my word. If 488 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: you can get ahead of these medical problems and you 489 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: don't end up with a UTI or a fall or 490 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: a hip break or anything that saves everybody a heapload 491 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: of money. All Right, we'll bring them back because there's 492 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: I just kind of want to get not only just 493 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: to boil down a summary of the technology you have 494 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: it hard for seniors, but also we'll give out the 495 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: information on how people can help out because they are 496 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: really doing God's work here Hard for seniors. Don't go wait, 497 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: it's eight thirty eight right now. If you have KRCIT talk. 498 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 4: Station fifty five, KARC the talk station, Hey forty one 499 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 4: fifty about KRCD talk station Patty and Rodger from hard 500 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 4: number four Seniors dot org and pivoting over over the 501 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 4: breakdown even more wonderful information. 502 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: Okay, who out there is got a senior loved one? 503 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking of Mom mom when you can't reach 504 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: them on the phone. Mom's got a cell phone, Mom's 505 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: got a landline. If I call both of those and 506 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: she doesn't answer either of them. She's eighty six, she 507 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: does live alone, she can still and she gets around. 508 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: That freaks me out. Where is she? 509 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: Well? 510 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: Could be a phone problems. She's had some of those lately. 511 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: But you have an answer and a solution to that problem. 512 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: Going back to the app you can get from Hard 513 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: for Seniors and the watch problem solved, problem solved. Where's 514 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: your mom right now? 515 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: My mom actually is a I know exactly where she 516 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: and Delia, and I also know her heart is beating 517 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 2: and her pull sox is good and she has HRV. 518 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: But there's peace of mind. 519 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: It's peace of mind. It actually happened to me personally 520 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: last night. My cousin called panicking and anyway, long story short, 521 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 2: she was sleeping, but we had the watch on her, 522 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 2: so we knew vitally she was doing well. And however, 523 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: this one, we've had a lot of members call us 524 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: begging because they're seeing early signs of dementia and people 525 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: are starting to leave their home. And these are people 526 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 2: that are living at home. Their spouses are wanting to 527 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: keep them at home. But a scary thing is is 528 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: you go to yoga class, so you go to the 529 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: grocery and you come back and all of a sudden, 530 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: someone has left the premise. So we actually are testing 531 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: right now. It's it will be released here in the 532 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: next several weeks. Our GPS segment to the watch and 533 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: it's got two features geo fencing, so we can set 534 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 2: a perimeter of two hundred feet or whatever the distances 535 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: that you want. If somebody leaves the house, it will 536 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: alert you alert response technology. 537 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: That's better than the ankle bracelets we have in the 538 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: state of Ohio for felons who have been put on 539 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: probation in their own homes and aren't allowed to leave 540 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: and then cut them off and wander around for months 541 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: only to go and kill somebody in their own apartment. 542 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: And then also yours actually were or will work. 543 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 2: It does and then you can actually find them. So 544 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 2: that's the second piece of it is you can actually 545 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 2: locate exactly where they are. 546 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 3: There's a map where and you can go get them. 547 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: What amazing peace of mind that bring about so over 548 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: at the website again Heart number four Seniors Thought or 549 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: right the upright hand corner, you can do a donate button. 550 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: If there's a business out there and you're looking for 551 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: a worthy worthwhile charity. I can't think of something better. 552 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: This is money saving, life saving, peace of mind providing. 553 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: It's good for providers, it's good for your loved one, 554 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: it's good for you. There is no downside. And I'll 555 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: tell you what. Next time I get my chemo treatment, 556 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm taking over your bandages. The skin tear bandages seniors 557 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: deal with this all. This is one of the first 558 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: things that you and I ever talked about, Patty for 559 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: Heart for Seniors. Senior's skin is frail and it rips easily, 560 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: like a simple band aid will tear the skin, and 561 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: of course that's an opportunity for infection. Of course it's 562 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: a pain in the butt if that's where the bandage was. Anyway, 563 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: But every time I go and I get the line 564 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: put in my arm and then they tape it down, 565 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: and the tape that they use literally rips all of 566 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: the hair off of my arm. And they even warn 567 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: me about it ahead of time. Oh you're gonna get a 568 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna get hair, gonna hurt. Even it's like every 569 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: time I'm over there, like why didn't I bring the 570 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: nose stick bandages? The bandage is that stick but easily 571 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: come off right there. Skin Tear Skill Silicon bandages, all 572 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: shapes and sizes for you at heartfor Seniors dot org. 573 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: And you can even get free sample. 574 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: Of those free samples, free samples, so free everything today 575 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: again donations then please, we we just to make it 576 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: very clear we are not paying our board. We have 577 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: everybody that works for us as volunteer. Nobody is getting 578 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: a salary. Every single dollar that's being brought in is 579 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 2: being put back to the technology, to the watches, to 580 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: the phones, to the skin tear bandages. Like we live 581 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: and die on donations. 582 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: That is great to know. He's reminding me of Matthew 583 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: twenty five. You give a buck to Matthew twenty five, 584 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: a buck goes to the charity. You give a buck 585 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: to United Way, maybe fifty cents because they got huge overhead, 586 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: giant salaries. Oh my god, four to one cave contributions, 587 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: they got it all. So yeah, make this is a 588 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: great bang for the buck. So again an appeal to 589 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: businesses out there who can't afford to make a more 590 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: sizable contribution. Help hard. Four seniors out at dot org 591 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: out all right. In conclusion, Patty and Roger, you have 592 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: the anti skin tear bandage technology. Yes, you have got 593 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: the little do not insert urinary catheter without family consent 594 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: placards which right there and just you know where you 595 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: can go, folks are for seniors dot org and there's 596 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: the shop link. That's where you can rent it all 597 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: the technology. Can my listeners get the watch and the 598 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: app from your website as well? 599 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, they just click on it. If they 600 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: already have an Apple eleven, there's certain criteria. But if not, 601 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 2: I will say we've partnered with Verizon and we can 602 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: actually offer, believe it or not, a full package plan 603 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: to where they get unlimited phone calls, unlimited texting, as 604 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: well as our entire ecosystem, and it's way cheaper than 605 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: anybody else has. 606 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 3: The Verizon stepped IBM helped with the AI. 607 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: Oh we are centel donations, but a cool, valuable, valuable. 608 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 3: Very very affordable five G watches, very very affordable iPhones. 609 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: Yes, seventeen Bran new. 610 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 3: The IBM mephistructure has been critical for our AI develop 611 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 3: and that AI piece is it's like the tip of 612 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 3: the spirit. 613 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: It's huge. 614 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: At the end of all this data stream, it gives 615 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: you an absolute analysis of what just happened in the 616 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: last twenty four hours or seven days, thirty d or 617 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 3: fourteens or thirty days, whatever you want to decide you 618 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 3: want to look at, and it gives you an intelligent 619 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 3: summary of what is happening with your loved one multiple 620 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: metrics or metric. 621 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: Multiple metrics, and again you know for the small price 622 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,239 Speaker 1: that this actually costs, and the amount of peace of 623 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: mind and information, and the fact that it is literally 624 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: life saving in the sense of these the notices you 625 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: get like the I fallen and I can't get up 626 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: notice you automatically get if your loved one falls. I mean, 627 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: we want to prevent the fall, prevent the fall, and. 628 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: We want to make their life worthy. It's I mean, 629 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: they shouldn't be ignored at all. 630 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: I agree, everything should not be get weepy eyed thinking 631 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: of my father dealing with some of the same things 632 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: that you're talking about every time you come on the program. 633 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: Roger Patty, thank you for all the work that you're doing, 634 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: and that it's volunteer, unpaid. It's just a real beautiful thing. 635 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,239 Speaker 1: You are doing God's work as I mentioned before, and 636 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: helping seniors out in the community. Folks, it's herd number 637 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: four seniors dot org. Check it all out, call them up. 638 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: They'll be happy to talk with you about the technology, 639 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: the acquiring the watch, and everything you might need. Five 640 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: one three four four four twenty thirteen five one three 641 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: four four four, twenty thirteen. Patty Rogers, God bless you 642 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: both for being there. No, thank you out there and 643 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: the work that you're doing, and obviously I'm so pleased 644 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: to be able to tell people about it. It's just great. Great. 645 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: You have been so consistent with us, and I will 646 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: tell you you're so respected by so many of these 647 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: seniors and your love. You are completely loved and the 648 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: family members. You're a resource, So thank you for the 649 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 2: support you've given us. 650 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm more than pleased to do it, and I'm not 651 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: looking for any love or adulation or anything. I love 652 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: being able to bring this to people's attention. It's one 653 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: of the beauties of being able to come to work 654 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: here every day. Thank you again, and thanks for spending 655 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: time here this morning and educating all of us. It's 656 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,719 Speaker 1: eight forty eight fifty five KRC Detalk Station. Come back, 657 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes left and then we'll move on 658 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: with our weekend. 659 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 4: I'll be right back fifty five KRC Sex