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Speaker 1: The following takes place between seven pm and eight pm.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do this seven oh eight, seven hundred

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Speaker 2: WLWITS R and L. Carrier Sports Talking is presented by

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Speaker 2: Kelsey Chevrolet and I'm bliance candlestir Man. I'm glad you

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Speaker 2: were here. If you were looking for Reds conversation, you

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Speaker 2: have come to the right place. I've got it out

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Speaker 2: of the shoot. It'll be our topic a tonight. Then

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Speaker 2: we'll add in a little bit of this and a

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Speaker 2: little bit of that along the way. What do you

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Speaker 2: say we get to it and we start with the

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Speaker 2: Reds pitchers and catchers have reported a good year. Question,

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Speaker 2: how do we feel about the Reds rotation? A year ago,

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Speaker 2: the red starting rot posted a collective earned run average

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Speaker 2: of three point eight five that was ninth best in

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Speaker 2: all of baseball, ninth best starting rotation earned run average

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Speaker 2: in the game. Now, while the Reds were ninth, the

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Speaker 2: Brewers were third, the Pirates were sixth, and the Cubs

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Speaker 2: were eighth, all from the division. The Reds rotation offered

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Speaker 2: the eighth most innings pitched of any rotation in baseball. Yet,

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Speaker 2: the Reds used twelve different starters last year, and they've

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Speaker 2: lost Nick Martinez his twenty six starts, Zach Lttel his

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Speaker 2: ten starts, and Wade Miley his two starts.

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Speaker 3: My butler, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Tells me that's thirty eight starts subtracted from this team.

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Speaker 2: And I look at this in I look at this

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Speaker 2: in three tiers of conversation tonight. Tier one would be

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Speaker 2: the four who were in, and that's Hunter Green, Brady Singer, Nicolodolo,

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Speaker 2: and you Rabin. The next tier would be the question

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Speaker 2: of which one Chase Burns or Red Louder for the

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Speaker 2: fifth spot. And then the third tier would be depth concerns,

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Speaker 2: because you never get through a season with just five

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Speaker 2: starting pitchers. Although we remember what was in twenty twelve

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Speaker 2: thirteen somewhere around there, the Reds had their five starters

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Speaker 2: pitch every game but one but one. Oh to have

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Speaker 2: that happen again, But if you go back to I

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Speaker 2: looked at this today and it's hard to believe. In

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, the Reds used sixteen different starting pitchers.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty three they use seventeen different starting pitchers,

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Speaker 2: and in twenty twenty two they use seven. And it

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Speaker 2: seems impossible seventeen in that year. It's hard to fathom

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Speaker 2: for a three consecutive year period seventeen, seventeen and sixteen

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Speaker 2: different starters. But let's begin here. Knock on wood, I

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Speaker 2: feel good about this rotation going into any series this season.

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Speaker 3: How about you.

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Speaker 2: I will take my chances, roll the dice whatever order

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Speaker 2: going into that series. If it's Hunter Green, followed by Nicolodolo,

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Speaker 2: followed by Andrew Rabbit, followed by Brady Singer, if it's a.

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Speaker 3: Four game series, a three game series, or.

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Speaker 2: A two game quikie, I will take my chances and

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Speaker 2: light the matchup in that series. With those four in

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Speaker 2: the Reds rotation, I'm interested in how to handle the

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Speaker 2: fifth spot, and I'm concerned about where the help will

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Speaker 2: come when needed beyond those six I've mentioned Singer, Lodolo, Abbot, Burns, Louder.

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Speaker 2: Then from there and with great curiosity, I looked around

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball the last couple of days to see

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Speaker 2: the starting pitchers who have been signed to minor league

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Speaker 2: deals that will be stashed in the minors for teams

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Speaker 2: in reserve as insurance. There's a lot being made in

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee over the last two days. The Brewers have a

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Speaker 2: tremendous trove of starting pitchers on the major league and

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Speaker 2: minor league level. More and more teams are realizing we

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Speaker 2: have got to gobble up as many starting pitchers as

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Speaker 2: we can get, and if we have to send them

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Speaker 2: to Triple A, we're sending them to Triple A because

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Speaker 2: we are not going to make it through this season

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Speaker 2: with five starters. But let's start with the positive and

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Speaker 2: the reason I knock on wood. To start with health.

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Speaker 2: At this point, everybody's healthy. Now there might be that

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Speaker 2: day the very soon where so and so has been

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Speaker 2: they're going to back off so and so with general soreness.

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Speaker 2: So and so is going to ease into things. Might

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Speaker 2: get a little bit later.

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Speaker 3: Start.

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Speaker 2: You remember what happened last year. Hunter Green went on

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Speaker 2: the injured list twice, Nicolodola was on the injured list,

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Speaker 2: Andrew Rabbit started the season on the injured list. Brady

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Speaker 2: Singer was their most consistent and reliable starter. He made

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Speaker 2: thirty two starts last year. You realize the last five years,

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Speaker 2: Singer has made the following number of starts twenty seven,

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Speaker 2: twenty seven, twenty nine, thirty two, thirty two. Man, in

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Speaker 2: this day and age, that is gold I mentioned Nicolodolo

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Speaker 2: blister missed twenty games. I ask him, in fact, I

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Speaker 2: want to go back to Red's fest on that Friday

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Speaker 2: night when Nick joined me. I think Nick was the

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Speaker 2: asked him what it meant to him to be available

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Speaker 2: even despite the blister in the injured list, what it

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Speaker 3: Here's what he told me.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned one hundred and fifty six and two thirds innings.

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Speaker 2: How big was it? How satisfying? Maybe that's the word,

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Speaker 2: to be able to make yourself available and give them that.

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Speaker 4: Many innings last, Yeah, I'm for me, it was it

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Speaker 4: was huge, you know. I mean that that's been my thing,

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Speaker 4: is just constantly something and you know, to be able

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Speaker 4: to say it was probably about twenty six of them

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Speaker 4: straight and blister again. But you know, to be able

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Speaker 4: to go through the whole season without something with something

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Speaker 4: I've really worked hard to do, you know, and I've

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Speaker 4: thought I figured out a lot of different things along

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Speaker 5: About my body, just what it takes.

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Speaker 4: To pitch every five days and everything, so you know,

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Speaker 4: hopefully something that we can build off going forward.

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Speaker 2: How annoying is it? Some guys will go through shoulder

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Speaker 4: It's it's something that's so small but so big, and

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Speaker 4: blieve me, it's it's just it's skin like you're The

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Speaker 4: worst part is is like there's no rehab for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so like you hurt your shoulder, whatever, you feel like

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Speaker 4: you're making progress every day you're doing exercises. Mine is

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Speaker 4: just looking at my finger hoping my skin grew back faster. So, uh,

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Speaker 3: It's not fun.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, it is what

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Speaker 4: it is, and you know, it's something I gotta, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, explain for for the average fan listening and they

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Speaker 2: may think, well, what's the big deal with your finger

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Speaker 4: And what's it's huge because it's not like it doesn't

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Speaker 4: It's literally on the very pad of the middle of

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Speaker 5: Can't throw it like that.

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Speaker 4: So it's really frustrating.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel do you feel you have discovered a

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Speaker 4: Where we'll find out. I'll tell you that I'm trying

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Speaker 4: easy as just toughen up your hands. Just throwing the

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Speaker 4: baseball is just way. It's a lot different than if

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nicolodolo that Friday night at Redsfest on what he

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Speaker 2: again knock on wood for this season. So that's our

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Speaker 2: starting points, and I'm just curious how you view and

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Speaker 2: feel about this starting rotation. I want to get into

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Speaker 2: the question of this rotation, and that's who is the

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Speaker 2: Louder and why? And then I want to get into

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Speaker 2: if there comes a time where help is needed injuries

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Speaker 2: as we continue. Hey, welcome in. We're talking some reds

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Speaker 2: tonight five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred The Big One. The show is RNL Carrier

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Speaker 2: Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevallet. It's on seven hundred

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Speaker 2: WLW Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. The Night in

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Speaker 2: Kala choops late from a regional team standpoint, Perdue leading

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Speaker 2: at Nebraska ten forty to go in the first half

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Speaker 2: twenty seven to sixteen. Last night, Xavier lost on the

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Speaker 2: road against Saint John's overtime eighty seven eighty two. Saint

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Speaker 2: John's won ten in a row Red Stormer twelve and one.

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Speaker 2: In the Big East, Xavier drops to twelve and twelve. Overall,

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Speaker 2: the lead was never greater than five for either team.

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Speaker 2: There were fifteen lead changes. There were fifteen ties, eighty

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Speaker 2: seven eighty two to the final in overtime. Richard Patino

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Speaker 2: after the game, talking about defeat, I just said.

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Speaker 5: We should have won the game. You know, free throw

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Speaker 6: I'll go back and watch, you know, not blaming the refs,

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Speaker 6: but that's you know, you have three guys foul out,

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Speaker 6: They're great kids, really believe in what we're building. We're

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Speaker 6: obviously trying to get to the level of Yukon, trying

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Speaker 6: can't have twenty eight free throws to nine and think

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Speaker 6: you're gonna win the game. And we had a chance

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Speaker 6: Richard Bettino.

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Speaker 2: Last night, thirty fouls called on Xavier, fifteen on Saint John's.

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Speaker 2: Xavier hit nine of seventeen from the line. Saint John's

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Speaker 2: hit twenty eight of forty one from the line. So

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Speaker 2: Saint John's outshot him by twenty four attempts and outscored

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Speaker 3: Go figure this.

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Speaker 2: Xaviers lost twelve games this year, five by a total

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Speaker 2: of thirteen points, and six all by at least eighteen points.

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Speaker 2: So Xaviers lost five games by one, one, one, five

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Speaker 2: and then five at overtime. Yet they have six losses

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Speaker 2: by eighteen, nineteen, nineteen, twenty three, thirty two and forty

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Speaker 2: one after last night, all right back to the Reds.

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Speaker 2: So you know, the story on Hunter Green really good

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Speaker 2: the last two years. Over the last two years, his

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Speaker 2: earned run average collectively two point seven five whoa but

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Speaker 2: just forty five starts in two hundred and fifty six

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Speaker 2: innings over those last two years combined growing injury. Last

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Speaker 2: year missed thirteen games the first time, miss fifty nine

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Speaker 2: games the second time. Brady Singer gets the ball every

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Speaker 2: five days, goes to the mound, gives him a good outing.

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Speaker 2: Most consistent, reliable starter. Nicolodolo twenty eight years old, now

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Speaker 2: twenty eight. I was putting this together last night. I thought,

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Speaker 2: man Nicko Lodolo's already twenty eight years old. Fifth major

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Speaker 2: league season. Last year career high and starts innings, career

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Speaker 2: best earned run average. Blister knocked him out for twenty games.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Rabbit fourth major league season, now at All Star.

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Speaker 2: Missed the first two weeks of last season, but then

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Speaker 2: man and he busted from the gate. Yet first half

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Speaker 2: of the year he was eight and one with a

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Speaker 2: two thirty nine. After the All Star Game, he was

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Speaker 2: two and six with a three forty three. Add them

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Speaker 2: all up, I feel really good about those four knock

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Speaker 2: on wood. Then who's the fifth starter on this team?

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Speaker 2: Is it Chase Burns or is it Reht Louder Rhet

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Speaker 2: Lauder's like the Forgotten Man. He pitched a total of

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Speaker 2: nine and the third innings last year, all on rehab.

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Speaker 2: Showed up in spring training with soreness in his forearm.

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Speaker 2: They shut him down, made a rehab start by I

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Speaker 2: want to say, may tore his oblique for the entire season.

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Speaker 2: Now, what would you do if you're if you're sliding

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Speaker 2: We have a great night, brother, and then you as well.

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Speaker 2: a really smart pitcher, and he was really good, but

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Speaker 2: that was twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: He pitched nine of.

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Speaker 2: The third innings all of last season. So you're asking

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Speaker 2: two things. He's gonna be pitching where he hasn't gone

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Speaker 2: since twenty twenty four once he starts pitching, and then

439
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be still learning on the major league level.

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Speaker 2: I mean, nine of the third innings last year and

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Speaker 2: six starts the previous year. That's not exactly conquering major

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Speaker 2: league baseball. There's still going to be adjustments that have

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Speaker 2: to be made, which come with no guarantees. Now, Rhet Lauder,

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Speaker 2: last year, we know the rough start, we know the

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Speaker 2: dazzling debut against the Yankees, and what struck out the

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Speaker 2: first five guys, and there was really difficult to watch

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Speaker 2: start in Boston, where he may or may have been

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Speaker 2: the thought.

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Speaker 3: Was tipping his pitches.

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Speaker 2: He made eight starts, his earned run average was over five,

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Speaker 2: but the more he started, the better he got. In

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Speaker 2: those eight starts, he struck out fifty seven batters. That's

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Speaker 2: the second most by red in their first eight starts

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Speaker 2: since nineteen hundred. Only Gary Nolan struck out more in

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Speaker 2: his first eight major league starts. I mean in three

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Speaker 2: straight he went ten ten, ten strikeouts, So I mean,

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Speaker 2: based on that, can you really start him at say Chase,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna start you back at Triple A Louisville. To me,

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Speaker 2: the easiest pending what happens in spring. Obviously, the easiest

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Speaker 2: thing would be to say, Rhett Man, we love you,

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Speaker 2: but we know you went through injuries from the start

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Speaker 2: of spring all the way through last season and only

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Speaker 2: got nine and a third innings under your belt. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna get you in a normal routine at Triple A Louisville.

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Speaker 2: You pitch every five days, you pitch your tail off,

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Speaker 2: and we are going to need you at some point.

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Speaker 2: It's either that from where I sit, or if they're

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Speaker 2: both on the roster. I think it has to be

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Speaker 2: Burns in the bullpen because Rhet going back to Wake Forest,

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Speaker 2: has only pitched in relief two times. I mean, Chase

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Speaker 2: Burns has done it. He did it in the majors,

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Speaker 2: he did it in college a lot more than Rhet Louder.

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Speaker 2: So if you're going to keep both, to me, it's

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Speaker 2: Rehet Louder in the rotation and Chase Burns becomes Nick

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Speaker 2: Martinez and hey, something happened, guys sick will make the

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Speaker 2: start tonight. Otherwise, maybe pitch a couple of innings on

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Speaker 2: Monday and a couple of innings on Friday in a

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Speaker 2: relief appearance.

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Speaker 3: Again, something like that. I look at it as two options.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think I wanted I don't think I

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Speaker 2: want Rent in the major like rotation every five days.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather be in Louisville's rotation and kind of bank

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Speaker 2: some innings and get comfortable. If that makes sense about

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Speaker 2: let me go to Anderson. Hey Bryce, you're on seven

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Speaker 2: hundred dolw.

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Speaker 11: Hey Lance, I mean, I really love the starting four rotation,

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Speaker 11: but this is ind of heros. I like that the

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Speaker 11: Reds have Chase Birds and Red loud or two young

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Speaker 11: singers in their back pockup. But the death really falls

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Speaker 11: off the table after that.

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Speaker 9: Rais tons of questions just guys.

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Speaker 11: Is inexperienced guys's injuries? Yes, but I do love what

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Speaker 11: they have. I think Hunter Green was being the eighth

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Speaker 11: You just know what he's getting. He could bind the

495
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Speaker 11: fastball slidder beautifully. I mean his fastball's top ten pitch

496
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Speaker 11: in the majors, and he could buy that ninety mile

497
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Speaker 11: an hour slider that just drops off as above average movement.

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Speaker 11: You just know what you're getting out of him. You

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Speaker 11: know what you're getting out of Brady Singer. And when

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Speaker 11: Hunter Green, he when he had a lead, he could

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Speaker 11: show aggressively. It's just gab over. I just love this pitching.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the ability to run those guys out one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 2: and we can talk about five, but those four. I

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Speaker 2: mean most teams in Major League Baseball would raise their

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Speaker 2: hand if you said, do you want our top four?

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Speaker 2: And I don't think that's an exaggeration.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but there is a thing that sparked some concern.

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Speaker 11: I mean, yes, Hunter Green did not pitch in July.

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Speaker 11: Nicolodola's had some injuries. Reet Louder didn't even pitch in

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Speaker 11: the majors. I think last season he was dealing with

511
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Speaker 11: elbow trouble. So I think these guys, I mean, hate

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Speaker 11: to say it, they're gonna have to start feeling out

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Speaker 11: very quickly, just in case these pitchers get hurt. No

514
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Speaker 11: one's safe, and Julian aguil Are or Chase Petty might

515
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Speaker 11: have to come on of pitch a few games.

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Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt. Hey, Kyle, you're the man. Good

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Speaker 3: hearing from you.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Bryce.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm looking at Kyle on the board. Bryce,

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Speaker 2: thank you, Bryce. That's my guy, Bryce. Good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Bryce.

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Speaker 2: I was momentarily destract because I'm pulling up for information

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Speaker 2: on a starter who signed today. And this is what

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Speaker 2: this is what I find interesting. The Oakland A signed

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Speaker 2: Andrew Savalley, starter for six million. So teams are starting

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Speaker 2: to whether there's a stockpile of guys still looking for jobs,

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Speaker 2: so whether it's a major league job like the A

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Speaker 2: signing Andrew Savalley, or I don't know. If you notice

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Speaker 2: what the Cubs did today, The Cubs signed to a

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Speaker 2: minor league deal, the last major league pitcher to win

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Speaker 2: twenty games, in a season.

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Speaker 3: Kyle Wright.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Wright was in Atlanta Brave, went through some arm troubles,

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Speaker 2: won twenty one games in twenty twenty two. Four years

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Speaker 2: ago he went twenty one and five, went through arm

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Speaker 2: and shoulder issues. Has him pitched since twenty twenty three. Today,

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Speaker 2: the Cubs signed into a minor league deal. They'll stash

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Speaker 2: him in the minors. See how he is.

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Speaker 3: He was the fifth.

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Speaker 2: Overall pick in the draft when he came out and

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Speaker 2: got cy young votes, won twenty one games. Now he's

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Speaker 2: on the recovery trail. Cub sign him to a minor

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Speaker 2: league deal, stash him in the minors and might need him,

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Speaker 2: and if they do, he's there. Teams, if you notice

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Speaker 2: this week there's a lot of transactions, teams going, hey,

547
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Speaker 2: minor league deal, want to come stay at Triple A.

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Speaker 2: We'll probably need you at some point, and guys are thinking, well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'd rather go to Triple A than not have a job.

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Speaker 2: So they're going to Triple A. They're gonna pitch. I

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Speaker 2: would love to see the Reds do that with somebody.

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Speaker 2: I'd have to see a list in front of me

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Speaker 2: of veteran starters who you could convince hey, minor league

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Speaker 2: deal with some incentives major league salary, and if you

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Speaker 2: get to the major leagues, we'll pay you this, this,

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Speaker 2: and this based on your start something like that. Because, man,

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Speaker 2: if you're telling me Chase Petty, Julian Agi, are, Brandon

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Speaker 2: Williamson and Jose Franco are your next four in the

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Speaker 2: minor leagues, I'm telling you, while I like Brandon Williamson

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Speaker 2: a lot, you're gonna hear from him before this hour

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Speaker 2: is or this show is done, because had I been

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Speaker 2: aware of my rundown, you would have heard from him

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Speaker 2: in this segment. You're you're asking an awful lot for

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Speaker 2: two guys coming back from Tommy John surgery, because there's

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Speaker 2: a great unknown there. It is seven fifty It's RNL

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Speaker 2: Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred ww

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Speaker 2: hey gets you to check on news in about three minutes.

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Speaker 2: Three minutes. As we talk red starting rotation. I think

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Speaker 2: Brandon Williamson could be the wild card for this season.

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Speaker 2: They're going to need him at some point. He's twenty

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Speaker 2: seven years old, he's a left hander. He has thrown

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Speaker 2: just sixteen and a third inning since twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: That twenty fourth season on a couple of different levels.

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Speaker 2: He's coming back from Tommy John surgery and is in

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Speaker 2: a position where he could help this team. He feels good.

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Speaker 2: I asked him about that back at Redsfest.

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Speaker 5: I feel great.

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Speaker 12: You know, I've had even in twenty four I missed

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Speaker 12: a decent chuck of the season with some shoulder issues.

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Speaker 12: So for the past two seasons pretty much I've had,

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Speaker 12: you know, ample amount of time to just focus on

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Speaker 12: things that usually during the season you don't get to

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Speaker 12: focus on.

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Speaker 5: Yea.

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Speaker 12: And so for you know, close to twenty four months,

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Speaker 12: I've been just trying to get to feel good and

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Speaker 12: finally feel like I'm there.

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Speaker 3: Are you currently throwing?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, so are you to day this woe?

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Speaker 5: Feel great?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I'll be able to hit spring training going.

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Speaker 3: So no restrictions or no, no, no that I know of.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I'm sure there'll be a light innings limit,

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Speaker 12: but no, I feel great.

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Speaker 2: But I was I was going to lead it into

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Speaker 2: the next question. When you're coming back, does in terms

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Speaker 2: of role or how you pitch, does it dictate more

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Speaker 2: you're probably Does it make it easier to be a

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Speaker 2: reliever coming back, or do you just starting once every

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Speaker 2: five days make it easier.

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Speaker 3: Is there a how do you?

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Speaker 5: I'm sure there's things to both.

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Speaker 12: I have never relieved, so I don't know how that

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Speaker 12: would work, but I know that for starting it is

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Speaker 12: nice to have your set schedule. If something doesn't work,

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Speaker 12: you can you're able to kind of understand what you

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Speaker 12: can pluck out and fill. Yeah, I don't I don't

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Speaker 12: know what I'll do this here, so I'm just kind

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Speaker 12: of going with this.

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Speaker 5: I just want to pitch.

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Speaker 12: It's been it's been a long time since I've felt

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Speaker 12: like my arm and my body has felt good.

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Speaker 5: So really, if I can just go out there and.

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Speaker 12: Feel like I can let it go, I'll be happy

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Speaker 12: with whatever goes on.

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Speaker 2: I've talked with guys coming back from injuries, and they

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Speaker 2: say one of the things that you have to worry

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Speaker 2: about when you've when you've been working so long to

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Speaker 2: get to a point that final push you feel good,

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Speaker 2: but you got to resist like racing to the finish line,

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Speaker 2: because you don't want to like screw it up.

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: And I feel that my bullpens, you know, I feel

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Speaker 12: really good, Like my arm is fresh, my body is

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Speaker 12: you know, I've I've basically just been working out for

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Speaker 12: two years, so my body feels really good, and I'll

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Speaker 12: start throwing, and yeah, I kind.

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Speaker 5: Of have to.

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Speaker 12: I actually play catch with Lidolo every day at TCU,

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Speaker 12: and I call my governor because he'll tell me like, okay,

633
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Speaker 12: like slow.

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Speaker 5: Down, you're throwing too hard, You're doing too much. And

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Speaker 5: it is hard.

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Speaker 12: It's really hard to feel great and not have felt

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Speaker 12: great for so long, and then you do feel great

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Speaker 12: and you gotta, you know.

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Speaker 5: Pull off the gas a little bit. So that's been

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Speaker 5: a challenge.

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Speaker 12: But that's a better challenge than feeling horrible and having

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Speaker 12: to push on the gas.

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Speaker 3: No doubt.

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Speaker 2: Brandon Williamson, I'm rooting for him. I really enjoyed that

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Speaker 2: conversation that night, and I asked him the question about

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Speaker 2: relieving or starting now. Relieving in theory, you don't have

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Speaker 2: as much of a workload, not as many innings coming

648
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Speaker 2: back from injury. But you're up and down during a game,

649
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Speaker 2: you're getting hot, you're cooling off, you're pitching multiple times

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Speaker 2: in a week. If you're a starter, you get the

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Speaker 2: rest of four days in between. Yet you've got a

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Speaker 2: greater workload. One start to the next and piling up

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Speaker 2: over the course of the season. But to his point,

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Speaker 2: he's never relieved. So I think he's at Triple A

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Speaker 2: Louisville and man, if he continues to feel as good

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Speaker 2: as he's saunded that night, I think he's going to

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Speaker 2: be in a position to help this team at some

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Speaker 2: point during the twenty twenty sixth season. What were you

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Speaker 2: doing twenty six years ago?

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Speaker 3: Tonight?

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Speaker 2: This town was turned upside down? What happened when we

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Speaker 2: What were you doing twenty six years ago? Tonight, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to take you back and let you listen to

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Speaker 2: words that I will always recall.

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Speaker 3: It's like this, February tenth, two thousand.

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Speaker 13: February tenth, two thousand, that day will go down in

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Speaker 13: Red's history, and we'll go down in Major League history.

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Speaker 13: And one of the biggest trades in the history of

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Speaker 13: our sport took place when the Michael Jordan of baseball

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Speaker 13: came home to Cincinnati. The player of the decade, an

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Speaker 13: All century player, a player that was born in Cincinnati

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Speaker 13: has become one of the best players in our sport,

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Speaker 13: has come home.

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Speaker 2: Twenty six years ago tonight, Ken Griffy Junior came home.

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Speaker 2: The kid came home.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: Chris Halft wrote for The Inquiry covered the Reds at

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Speaker 2: the time, and his lead the next morning was Reds

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Speaker 2: fans celebrated Opening Day, July fourth, and the seventh game

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Speaker 2: of the World Series all at once yesterday. Think about

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Speaker 2: that the best player in the game came here, took

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Speaker 2: less money to do it. The Reds gave up Brett Tomko,

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Speaker 2: Mike Cameron two minor leaguers. He was considered at the

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Speaker 2: time to have the best chance to catch in top

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Speaker 2: Hank Aaron's all time home run record. Reds were moving

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Speaker 2: into a new stadium in three years, short right field porch,

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00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: perfect for his swing. He was thirty years old. He

702
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: was coming off a season where he hit forty eight homers,

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Speaker 2: drove in one hundred and thirty four walk ninety one times,

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Speaker 2: and stole twenty four bases. Junior came here sitting on

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Speaker 2: three hundred and ninety eight homers, a two to ninety

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Speaker 2: nine lifetime batting average, and over eleven hundred runs driven.

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Speaker 2: In those words from Jim Bowden, and Junior then stepped

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Speaker 2: up to the podium and kind of lifted his cap

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Speaker 2: up a little bit, leaned in with a smile and said, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm finally home. His first season with the Reds. You

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Speaker 2: know what he did. Can you recall the numbers first

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Speaker 2: season with the Reds forty homers, a h eighteen ribies,

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Speaker 2: and a nine to forty two ops. But the Reds

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Speaker 2: went from ninety nine wins the year before to eighty five.

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Speaker 2: There were injuries, there were pitching problems. They're starting pitching

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Speaker 2: in Junior's first year, Steve Paris made thirty three starts,

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Speaker 2: Rob Bell twenty six, Ron vallone twenty three, Elmer Descends

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Speaker 2: sixteen Osvaldo Fernandez fourteen. Do you know that Junior's first

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Speaker 2: season would be the only season of the eight and

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Speaker 2: a half he spent with the Reds that they had

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Speaker 2: a winning record eight and a half seasons, one winning

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Speaker 2: season his first, and it was eighty five wins, down

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Speaker 2: from the previous year when they'd won ninety six in

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Speaker 2: ninety nine. I've always thought there was a list of

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Speaker 2: what ifs with Junior. What if he didn't have to

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Speaker 2: deal with the injuries that would follow. What if ownership

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Speaker 2: had delivered on a promise to spend more money rather

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Speaker 2: than tie the hands of Jim Boden.

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Speaker 3: I mean, think of it.

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Speaker 2: Jim Boden gets the deal done on the premise they're

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Speaker 2: going to be able to expand the roster because he's

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Speaker 2: taken juniors taking a hometown discount. He deferred fifty seven

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Speaker 2: percent of the money on the contract.

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Speaker 3: It was what nine.

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Speaker 2: Years one hundred and uh I got it here, hold on,

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Speaker 2: let me pull out my sheet. It was like nine

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Speaker 2: years one hundred and twelve million, one hundred and twelve

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Speaker 2: and a half. Here it is nine years, one hundred

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Speaker 2: and twelve and a half million dollars for Junior. Fifty

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Speaker 2: seven percent of it would be paid out as deferrals.

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Speaker 2: So think the it's got him at a discount and

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Speaker 2: a deferral.

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Speaker 3: And they didn't add to the payroll.

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Speaker 2: What if fans hadn't taken out their frustration on Junior

745
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Speaker 2: and instead put it on ownership for what they did.

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Speaker 2: What if fans had treated Junior throughout his years like

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Speaker 2: they did day one? What if Junior had opened up

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Speaker 2: and embraced the city more than he did. What if

749
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Speaker 2: the Reds had upgraded their starting pitching. I've always wanted

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Speaker 2: I've always wanted a do over. Not just a great

751
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Speaker 2: what if, but I've always wanted if I could go

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Speaker 2: back and do over one thing in Cincinnati sports, I'd

753
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Speaker 2: like a do over for the city, the fan base, ownership,

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Speaker 2: and for Junior and a chance to do it again

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Speaker 2: and get it right. Because I remember what this night

756
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: was like twenty six years ago. It was absolutely bonkers, insane.

757
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: The whole sports world, baseball and beyond, was on since

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Speaker 2: that the Reds got him.

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Speaker 3: The Reds got.

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Speaker 2: Junior, the ninety six win team got King Griffy Jr.

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Speaker 2: And they gave up what he wanted to come home,

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Speaker 2: And man, so much happened after that that would classify

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Speaker 2: as unfortunate rather than exciting. I've just always wanted a

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Speaker 2: a do over because if it had, if it had

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Speaker 2: gone right, I mean right, would have been world championships.

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Speaker 2: The way we were feeling twenty six years ago right

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Speaker 2: now and breaking Hay Aaron's record, That's how we.

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Speaker 3: Felt twenty six years ago right now.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's jump back into some conversation at five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: seven thousand. I've got a question concerning Junior, Not so

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Speaker 2: much Junior, but moments in Cincinnati sports. I will ask

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Speaker 2: here in a second, but let's take care of some

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Speaker 2: Reds pitching conversation in Western Hills. Hey, Keith, welcome to

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Speaker 2: Sports Talk Lance.

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Speaker 14: It's been a while, man. I started listening in the

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Speaker 14: early two thousands. Who believe it or not, the very

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Speaker 14: first episode I ever listened to you on you were

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00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 14: on at three, and I gotta tell you, man, it

779
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 14: was your first episode back after Casey's episode. So prayers

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00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 14: to you and Casey and the family. Thank everybody's doing good.

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Speaker 2: Everybody believe it or not, believe it or not. Later

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00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: on in this month, he's going to be twenty six

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Speaker 2: years old.

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Speaker 14: That I'll may that.

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Speaker 3: How last are we?

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Speaker 14: Un You know what you are and we we did

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Speaker 14: take a small group of us down spend a game

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Speaker 14: with you guys at the Red Stadium.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, two thousand. Thank you for those kind of words.

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Speaker 14: Well, I want to say you turned me on to

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Speaker 14: the episode or the twenty four series with P for

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Speaker 14: Southernly and I love you. I love that you still

793
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 14: use it. And I what what got me to call

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Speaker 14: in tonight?

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Speaker 9: Lance?

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Speaker 14: And now I got to say two things real quick.

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Speaker 14: I'm just trying to make the short one.

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Speaker 7: Excuse me.

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Speaker 14: You took me back when I was sitting here listening

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Speaker 14: and you're talking about Griffyr and man, I remember where

801
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 14: I was, and I remember when they said that he's coming.

802
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 14: I actually got to play one little league game against him.

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00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 14: He was a year older than me, but we were

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00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 14: and brou his dad was there, and Johnny Bench was there,

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00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 14: and everybody's trying to get their autographs. I wanted Griffy juniors.

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Speaker 14: But but I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you

807
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Speaker 14: what called me to call in today. I was just

808
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 14: getting home from work, going in the driveway. I've been

809
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 14: on hold for a while, but I got to tell

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Speaker 14: you this. I'm pulling in. I'm thinking of the last

811
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 14: two Reds games I've been to. Was at since at

812
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 14: a great American ballpark, and then I drove to Cleveland

813
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 14: last year for the Cincinnati and the Cleveland game. And

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Speaker 14: I am a huge Major League fan as far as

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Speaker 14: the movie goes. And I bought the glasses with the

816
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 14: skull and crossbones, and I bought the ninety nine jersey

817
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 14: with Ricky Vaughan on the back, and I wore I

818
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 14: wore my motorcycle bets over top of it. And we

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00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 14: made we made the Jumbo Tron and it was just

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00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 14: it was but but but I had my Cincinnati redsat on,

821
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Speaker 14: so I was representing Ohio on Northam South. But Lance,

822
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 14: we love you, love your show. You're great and uh Man,

823
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 14: thank you for everything that you guys do and everybody

824
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 14: at the station. And by the way, my dad married

825
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 14: a lady that retired from there not too long ago.

826
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 14: She used to work.

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Speaker 3: Keith. You made my night.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate those kind words and the support over

829
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: the years, and the prayers and and and thank you

830
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: and please call.

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Speaker 14: Again, Willy Willy, good Lord Lance. We love you, man,

832
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 14: We love we love Eddie and Roight, we love all

833
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 14: of you.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 14: You guys are awesome. Just keep doing what you do, Lance,

836
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 14: because you really bring it to the listeners and and

837
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 14: your passion. That that you've been doing for decades. Now,

838
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 14: that's what kept me over the last two three decades.

839
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Speaker 14: It keeps us going then, So.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Keith. Thanks all right, take care there you go. Man,

841
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 3: we're holy cow. Can I can I just go home

842
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 3: on that one?

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Speaker 14: That?

844
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Speaker 3: Oh man, I got chills here in that.

845
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Speaker 2: Thank you for the very kind words. Let's talk some

846
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 2: more reds in Dayton. Hey, Jeff, welcome to sports Talk.

847
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: Hey Jeff, Oh no, wait, I think he's here. Hey, hey,

848
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: hey Jeff, go ahead, welcome.

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Speaker 15: I had you on me, sir.

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Speaker 3: You're loud and clear. Now what's on your mind?

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Speaker 9: Okay?

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Speaker 15: I echo what that gentleman said about your performance all

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Speaker 15: through the years.

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Speaker 3: On here your thank you iconic.

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00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 15: Oh now, now, now come on, you should be in

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Speaker 15: some kind of hall of fame.

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00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 3: I thank you. Yes, what what else?

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Speaker 15: I'll think of something bad? Okay, three quick things. It's

859
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Speaker 15: far as the draft goes. I'm taking the cornerback, Monsieur

860
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 15: de Layne. I'm running up there to grab that kid.

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00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 15: I've watched so much film on this. You think DJ

862
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 15: Turner is a shut down corner You got to see

863
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 15: and he's more physical than Turner, but his fluid hips run,

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Speaker 15: I mean he's got to He could be elked.

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Speaker 5: Elked.

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Speaker 15: That's who I think the Bengals should take number two.

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Speaker 15: As far as your starters, you've got two guys in

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Speaker 15: the bullpen that had had a couple of coffee starting.

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00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 15: They both got squashed in that roles, but they've learned

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Speaker 15: to pitch in the bullpen, and that's Graham Ashcraft and

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Speaker 15: Connor Phillips. And I really think Connor Phillips could fill

872
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 15: that void that once he developed, getting that that hard

873
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 15: curve over his hard slider. It was nasty last year.

874
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 15: You saw they.

875
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 8: Couldn't touch you.

876
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 15: So they do have those two to think about. You

877
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 15: know what, after your sing that you mentioned, that's seven

878
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 15: eight and I think what they ought to do with

879
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 15: Chase Petty is putting in the bullpen when they got

880
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 15: him out of high school. He was stow one hundred

881
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 15: and two mile an hours it was, it was said.

882
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 15: And what they did right away they took him into

883
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 15: their farms and he didn't he couldn't pitch. He didn't

884
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 15: have any other pitches, just so to speak.

885
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: So very interesting to see, yeah, very interesting to see

886
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 2: what how this season goes.

887
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 9: I think he should.

888
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 15: I think they should make him a one inning reliever

889
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 15: and just let them to the one hundred mile an

890
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 15: hourst throwing the heater.

891
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: Ricky.

892
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: There you go, hey, Jeff, I got to run to break.

893
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 2: Good hearing from of you, sir, all right, thank you.

894
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: When we come back. I got a question. It popped

895
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: up in the middle of the afternoon. I said, you

896
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: know what, I'm going to throw this into the eight

897
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: o'clock hour tonight since I mentioned Junior on the anniversary

898
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 2: of the Junior Trade, I want you to think about

899
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: this during the break. What would be the top five

900
00:48:54,320 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: biggest non game moments in Cincinnati sports over the last

901
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 2: fifty years. I mean, the Junior Trade, the way it

902
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: turned the city upside down is obviously one of them.

903
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 3: What'll be the top five?

904
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not talking game moments, will be the top

905
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 2: five non game moments in Cincinnati sports over the last

906
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: fifty years? Juniors in that five. I'll give you my

907
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: other four as we continue RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented

908
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: by Kelsey Chevallet, seven hundred WLW. All right, here are

909
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: my top five, in no particular order, on the anniversary

910
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: of the Griffy Trade.

911
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: What will be the top five non.

912
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 2: Games moments in Cincinnati sports over the last fifty years?

913
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: No particular order. The Junior trade, the Pete Rose banishment.

914
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 2: I think I'd be willing to put Pete number one.

915
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: The rest you can fight over for positioning. I put

916
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: Pete number one. Junior trade is in that, the firing

917
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: of Sperky Anderson is in that, the firing of Bob

918
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: Huggins and the clash with Nancy Zimpfer is in that,

919
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: and Merge Shots suspension and forced sale of the team

920
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: would be in that. The top five non game sports

921
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 2: moments in Cincinnati over the last fifty years. Rose banishment,

922
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 2: Junior Trade, Huggins, Zimfer clash, the Sparky firing, and the

923
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 2: merg Shots, suspension and stripping away of the team. I would,

924
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: if I could expand to six I'd put the awarding

925
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: of an MLS franchise to FC Cincinnati. I would put

926
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: Stanley Wilson and the night before the Super Bowl and

927
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: the incident in the hotel room with the cocaine, and

928
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: these are all again, these are all non game moments,

929
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: but they are moments that would have shaken the city collectively,

930
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: not just a segment of the city, not just a

931
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: fan base, but shook the city collectively over the last

932
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: fifty years. That's a pretty that's a pretty strong list

933
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: of what is that seven Rose Anderson Junior, the Huggins firing,

934
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 2: Marge's suspension, and the Stanley Wilson incident that would be

935
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 2: in the awarding of MLS one, two, three, four, five.

936
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: That's seven. It's a pretty good jeezus, I'm going to roll.

937
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 2: I should go top ten. I would include you know

938
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 2: what I would do. I would include Jerry Faust being

939
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 2: named the head coach at Notre Dame, a high school

940
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: football coach at Moeler in nineteen eighty in the city

941
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati because the national impact, as well named head

942
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: coach in the Notre Dame Fighting Irish. That would make

943
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: it eight. I would add, oh, oh wait, well wait,

944
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: a minute. I think top five. The Bengals red stadium

945
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: deals would make a top ten. I'd argue top five,

946
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: and I would put UC to the Big twelve, Xavier

947
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: to the Big East. In combination. From a conference standpoint,

948
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 2: those would be the ten. Those would be my ten

949
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: biggest non game moments in Cincinnati sports over the last

950
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: fifty years. I think it's a pretty good waiting. Oh,

951
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: I left, We'll wait a minute. I left at a

952
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,479
Speaker 2: couple I just thought of. But I think that would

953
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: be my I think that would be my top ten.

954
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: Hang tight more around the quarner, including what I did

955
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: at the grocery store. Uh got a story. It's ahead

956
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 2: RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred

957
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: WLW eight thirty seven seven hundred WLW RNL Carrier Sports

958
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: Talk presented by Kelsey Chivrolet Show Garry Jeff Walker serving

959
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: up the nightcap. Coming up top of the hour. It

960
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: is forty four days to Red's opening Day, forty four

961
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 2: days to Reds opening days. Not all of the Reds

962
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 2: who wore forty four at some point in franchise history.

963
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: Charlie Lee Brandt, Pat Darcy remember the Big Red Machine

964
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 2: John Roper wore number forty four. Doug Capilla a nondescript

965
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 2: two seasons with the Red seventy eight seventy nine. But

966
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: I would argue the most powerful in more ways than

967
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 2: one number in Reds franchise history is forty four. Eric

968
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: the Red forty four, Adam Dunn forty four, Aristides Achino

969
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: forty four, and Elie de la Cruz forty four. I

970
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 2: just looked up aristidiz Achino played in Mexico last year.

971
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 2: He played on three different teams. The one he played

972
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 2: for most in seventy games, he hit fifteen homers and

973
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 2: batted two to seventy one. Aristides Achino still playing that

974
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 2: what he did? You talk about it like a comet

975
00:53:53,840 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 2: flashing through a shooting star and then disappear. Unbelievable end up.

976
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: Mike Leak was was number forty four. Forty four days

977
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: to Red's opening day, we were on the Junior theme.

978
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 2: Let's go to the archives if we could. How about

979
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: the sounds of Junior and number five hundred.

980
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 16: The pitch at a high drive hit back in the

981
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 16: deep right field.

982
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 17: Junior has just knocked the door down for the five

983
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 17: hundred clock a high drive into the lower deck and

984
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 17: right number thirty touches him all and boy.

985
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 16: What a Father's Day gift for seaward.

986
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 17: The dugout after he says, he rounds the getting the

987
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 17: glad hand from Mark Berry greeting it home play by

988
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 17: Adam done.

989
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 16: That Jason LaRue, followed by Sean.

990
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 18: Kasey and each of them we'll get a piece of

991
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 18: Ken frity Junior before he gets back into the dugout,

992
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 18: hitting his.

993
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 16: Five hundred home run the right fo leading off this

994
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 16: sixth hitting and last but not Lea's.

995
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 17: Manager Dave Miley, and now Junior running down toward the

996
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 17: area where his mom and dad.

997
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 16: Sitt and he is there with his father for a

998
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 16: big Father's day hug.

999
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 2: What a scene this is here.

1000
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 18: At Bush Stadium in Saint Louis, looking for his youngsters

1001
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 18: and Trey as all this.

1002
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 16: Comes up, they're all down there is right, Melissa, What

1003
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 16: a scene.

1004
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 17: Junior dups has held it to the crowd at all theation.

1005
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 3: They give it here in Saint Louis.

1006
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 18: Great baseball fans in this town, and it was quite

1007
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:37,959
Speaker 18: a sight.

1008
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 19: A typical junior home run, high and deep and no

1009
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 19: doubt at all the right field the twentieth number of

1010
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 19: the five hundred home run Club, and the suspense and

1011
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 19: the waiting is finally over. Ken Griffey Junior number twenty

1012
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 19: and that elite five hundred home run club.

1013
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 2: About that sound from the Hall of Famer, Murdy b

1014
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 2: all right and back out to the phones. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

1015
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: seven thousand, eight hundred, the big one in Mason we go.

1016
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 3: Hey, Mike, I.

1017
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 8: Gotta follow that man, no doubt.

1018
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 2: He is a mad.

1019
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 8: Twenties guy at the time, for early thirties, I don't

1020
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 8: even know. But the Carson Palmer stance he took again around.

1021
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 8: Yeah for me, as he's a big, tall dude. Thought, man,

1022
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 8: he's gonna be around forever. And I know he did

1023
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 8: that re sign and left a lot of people don't

1024
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 8: like it. Man, he had to take care of himself.

1025
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 2: In my paint, Yeah, Carson, Carson says, trade me or

1026
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: I retire. And the standoff continued until the Raiders had

1027
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: an injury and Hugh Jackson needed a quarterback and they

1028
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 2: made the trade.

1029
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 3: Unbelievable. That's a good one.

1030
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, I have a great night, Thank you.

1031
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1032
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 2: That would make I should probably had this developed their

1033
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: learned the week I'd have some more time to have prepared.

1034
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 3: Maybe a top twenty. I think we'd have to put.

1035
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 2: And if you're just tuning in with this, all deals

1036
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: with the fact that twenty six years ago tonight, King

1037
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,959
Speaker 2: Griffey Junior was traded and came to town, and I thought, man,

1038
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: for as much as that turned this city upside down,

1039
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: what would be the biggest non game moments in Cincinnati

1040
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 2: sports over the last fifty years, Now that I think

1041
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 2: about it, we'd have to find room. Maybe a top twenty,

1042
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: if not top fifteen, maybe pressure in the top ten.

1043
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: Since I opened tennis stays, the last second save looked

1044
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 2: like it was leaving a tennis tournament that had been

1045
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 2: here since what the late eighteen hundreds or some incredible

1046
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: number stays I would put. I was talking about this

1047
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 2: with Tom Gamble earlier today. I forgot about this one

1048
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: because it happened the year before I got here, Cincinnati

1049
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 2: being awarded the NCAA Frozen Four, which, since I was,

1050
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: it was the furthest south the men's hockey final four

1051
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: had ever been awarded. Got that in nineteen ninety six,

1052
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: and I would put on Twitter, I give the assist

1053
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:20,479
Speaker 2: to multiple people. The shocking death of Chris henry Man

1054
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 2: certainly on a list of biggest non game moments in

1055
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: Cincinnati sports over the last fifty years. Absolutely, Western Hills

1056
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: we go, Hey, Rick, welcome to sports Talk.

1057
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 7: Hey, how are you doing?

1058
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 3: Lancem okay, how about you? I'm good, Thank you.

1059
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 7: Drafting of Joe Burrow.

1060
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 2: Oh yo, talk about a franchise changing, Absolutely.

1061
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 7: Yep.

1062
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 14: And I would follow that quickly with drafting of Jamar Chase.

1063
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 2: Oh oh, now I'm flat Now I hadn't even thought

1064
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: of the draft angle. I'd also then find somewhere in

1065
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: the top twenty when Mike Brown turned down the Saints

1066
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: entire draft talking about pro dra uh franchise changing turns

1067
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: down in the entire draft of the Saints to to

1068
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: instead keep the draft picking and select a Kielly Smith.

1069
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 7: Yeah all right, wow.

1070
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, not bad. I'm putting yours on the list. Thank you?

1071
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 3: All right, all right, I have a good night.

1072
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 7: All right.

1073
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 2: I got a story. This is a this is a

1074
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: as Kelly would say, a me story. I don't know

1075
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 2: if you can relate. Here goes. We were at the

1076
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: grocery store on Saturday, couple's grocery shopping do you do

1077
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 2: you well, one show of hand. Do you grocery shop

1078
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: with your spouse?

1079
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 3: We don't.

1080
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: We just happened to on this It's not like a thing,

1081
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 2: but we happened to on this occasion because we were

1082
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 2: we were getting Super Bowl stuff and some other things,

1083
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: and we just said.

1084
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 3: Oh, we'll go together.

1085
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 2: So I'm wheeling the grocery cart out to the car,

1086
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 2: and I wheeled the cart up behind the white Kelsey

1087
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: Chevrolet Trailblazer.

1088
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking.

1089
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: And I go to do the latch on the back

1090
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 2: to open up the back hatch, and it won't open.

1091
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 2: I clicked my key fobble and I thought, you know,

1092
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: so cold, is it frozen? Why wolt the hatch open

1093
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: on my Kelsey Chevrolet Treubler.

1094
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 3: Clicking and clicking and clicking, and Baden or Kelly says,

1095
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 3: what were you doing?

1096
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 2: I said, it won't open, So she held the cart

1097
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: and I walked around to the side and I yanked

1098
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 2: the door open, much to the surprise of the individual

1099
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: sitting in his car. He he jumped and I jumped.

1100
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 3: I screamed, and he screamed. It was something like.

1101
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: Ah, And the look on his face was priceless. I

1102
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 2: can only imagine the look on my face as he

1103
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 2: was looking at me was priceless. But it was a

1104
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: very i'm gonna see a very similar looking car, easily

1105
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 2: mistaken by anybody. It just happened to be in this

1106
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 2: case me. But the more I thought about this, he

1107
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 2: I'm guessing he saw me in the back mirror, the

1108
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: mirror of somebody like trying.

1109
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 3: To open up the hatch. What is this guy doing?

1110
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 2: And then just so matter of factly, I walk around

1111
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 2: and it wasn't even like you know, put your hands

1112
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 2: over your eyes and look in and what's going on.

1113
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 2: It was just walk right up to the door and

1114
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 2: in frustration just yank that door open, like what is

1115
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: going on?

1116
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 3: And it was somebody else's car.

1117
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: Kelly was seen peering around the corner at both of us,

1118
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 2: and I seem to recall her shaking her head. That

1119
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 2: was my day in the grocery store perking lot.

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01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 3: Now.

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01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 2: Actually I do have one other story to add to

1122
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 2: that that happened in the store, and it was I

1123
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: was getting this is the dumbest thing. I was getting

1124
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,959
Speaker 2: salad dressing packets. You know the packets that you opened

1125
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 2: it and pour and then you add the vinegar and

1126
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: then you add the and then the water, and then

1127
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 2: you shake it up. So it was on the top shelf,

1128
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 2: and it was pushed back on the top shelf so

1129
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: like I.

1130
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 3: Could see it, but I wasn't gonna be able to

1131
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 3: reach it, and I I.

1132
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: Thought about I put one foot up on the shelf,

1133
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 2: and I thought, I really, I can't like climb up

1134
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 2: onto I'm not going to climb up onto the shelf.

1135
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 2: It will probably fall over on top of me. But

1136
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 2: I did kind of put one foot up to kind of.

1137
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 3: Lift myself and say no, I mean, I'm just not

1138
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 3: gonna make it. I turned to my right.

1139
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: And I said, to a guy mining his own business,

1140
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 2: I said, could I use your clear height advantage over

1141
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: me for a second? And he stopped looking at his

1142
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 2: phone and he looked at me, and I pointed, I said,

1143
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 2: can you get that? So he walks four feet over

1144
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 2: he was probably I'm going to say a good six

1145
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 2: two or six three, and he reaches up to the

1146
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: top shelf and ways back onto that shelf and grabs

1147
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 2: it and hands it to me, and I said thank you,

1148
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 2: and he said, no problem. And we fist bumped and

1149
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 2: it was a moment of camaraderie and human kindness being

1150
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 2: shared in the middle of the salad dressing and crewton

1151
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 2: aisle at Kroger when me at five foot nine could

1152
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 2: not reach the salad dressing. That was my day at Kroger.

1153
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 2: And after all of that, hatch won't open, door flies open.

1154
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 2: And the funny thing is, as we were getting in

1155
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 2: our car and he was pulling out, he wasn't like

1156
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 2: racing out like I'm getting the hell out of here.

1157
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 2: He was driving off matter of factly. And we made

1158
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: eye contact and I'm like a mouth to him again,

1159
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. He was like, thumbs up,

1160
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: no problem. Well ed down the stretch, put the wraps

1161
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 2: on things with on this date. I am such an idiot,

1162
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 2: but it was an easy mistake.

1163
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 3: They were identical Arnel Carrier.

1164
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 2: Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW.

1165
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 3: Heading down the stretch. Nine o'clock is news time.

1166
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 2: After that, it's Gary Jeff Walker time serving up the nightcap.

1167
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 3: I'm back at you tomorrow.

1168
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: Let's see an odd one six to eight thirty leading

1169
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: into Dan and Terry with UC basketball from Manhattan, Kansas

1170
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 2: against Kansas State.

1171
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 5: All right, I.

1172
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 2: Got some Reds and some other things developing. I'm watching

1173
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 2: Carrie Comb's text me at this moment because I wanted

1174
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: to see if he had time to come on tomorrow

1175
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 2: night and catch up with him since taking the Michigan job.

1176
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: And he's in the middle of typing. The text has

1177
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 2: not appeared, so I cannot give you an answer. If

1178
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 2: he can or not, it's going to coming to nay, Dave,

1179
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 2: give me a moment.

1180
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:13,919
Speaker 14: I got three lamb.

1181
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 15: Yeah, when Greg Cook bore up his shoulders.

1182
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 3: Ooh, prior to nineteen seventy six, however.

1183
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 15: And the day that the Reds traded Frank Robinson to

1184
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 15: the Baltimore Orioles for milk pathos.

1185
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 2: Now see that that's another one though we said fifty years,

1186
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 2: so that's before nineteen seventy six.

1187
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 3: Okay, have a good night, Okay, thank you.

1188
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah both, if we were to expand it to like

1189
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 2: the last hundred years or seventy five years or sixty years,

1190
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 2: but since nineteen seventy six, those fault just outside. But

1191
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 2: I appreciate you check it in and thinking to some

1192
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,919
Speaker 2: for the list I think I offered. I think I'm

1193
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 2: out of mind. Did I leave anything off my list.

1194
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: I think we covered him all u ooh, Carrie says,

1195
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 2: he's checking. He would love to he's checking. One of

1196
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 2: the make sure with his sports information director it is

1197
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 2: okay that he can do radio, because I usually you

1198
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 2: check with sports information first and certainly understandable.

1199
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 3: So maybe carry.

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01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 2: Comes to my Dave Sailor, the athletic director at Director

1201
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 2: of Athletics at Miami, will join us tomorrow night at

1202
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 2: six twenty on the show Quickly. On this date in

1203
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 2: sports history, nineteen twenty, Major League Baseball banned the spitball.

1204
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 2: Banned the spitball nineteen twenty. On this day, nineteen fifty two,

1205
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Bullets play a forty eight minute game without

1206
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 2: making a single substitution. All five of their starters played

1207
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 2: the whole game. They beat the Fort Wayne Pistons eighty

1208
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: two to seventy seven. This date, nineteen sixty nine, ilw

1209
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 2: Every time I mentioned this player's name, I always say, man,

1210
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 2: I wish I could have seen him play. LSU's Pete

1211
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 2: Marovich score sixty six and a loss to Tulane one

1212
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 2: oh one ninety four. Nineteen eighty two, on this date,

1213
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 2: the Reds trade George Foster to the Mets for Alex Travino,

1214
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: Greg Harris and Jim Kern. Nineteen eighty five The All

1215
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 2: Star Game the w W The NBA All Star Game

1216
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 2: is played at the then Hoosier Doome in Indianapolis. Ralph

1217
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 2: Sampson of the Rockets was the MVP two thousand the

1218
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 2: Ken Griffy Junior trade and twenty seventeen, Golden State's Draymond

1219
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 2: Green becomes the first player in NBA history to record

1220
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 2: a triple double with fewer than ten points. Get this,

1221
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 2: he had ten rebounds, ten assists, ten steals, and four

1222
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 2: points for his triple double. All right, final note of

1223
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: the night. Who doesn't like a good mock draft? From

1224
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 2: The Athletic the latest newest mock draft. The Raiders at

1225
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,919
Speaker 2: number one, take Fernando Mendoza, quarterback Indiana. At number four,

1226
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans take Ruben Bain Junior, the edge rusher

1227
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 2: of Miami who I really really like. Kansas City takes

1228
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: Notre Dame running back Jeremiah Love the Bengals at number ten.

1229
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 2: The Bengals at number ten take Keldrick Falk, edge rusher

1230
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 2: Auburn six six two eighty five. I don't like this

1231
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: note from the athletic. Former Georgia standout MIKEL Williams has

1232
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: been a popular comparison to Fulk, mostly because both players

1233
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 2: were young prospects and didn't have elite sack production in college.

1234
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 2: Could we please take somebody who has been productive in

1235
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 2: college trait wise though, he's got some Trayvon Walker in

1236
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 2: his game, says the report. Trayvon Walker for Jacksonville back

1237
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 2: to back ten SAX seasons in twenty three and twenty

1238
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 2: four if I remember, and it says he's twitchy and

1239
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 2: relentless as a hammer off the edge, could line up

1240
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 2: anywhere once he gets comfortable. Bengals take Auburn edge rusher

1241
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 2: Keldrick falk leaving at number eleven the Miami Dolphins to

1242
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 2: select Caleb Downs safety the Ohio State University. Yes, the

1243
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 2: Steelers taking a quarterback Ty Simpson out of Alabama, and

1244
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 2: it is a two round mock. It has the Bengals

1245
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 2: in the second round taking colton Hood Corner out of Tennessee.

1246
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 2: Colton Hood Corner, Tennessee. All right, I'm done tomorrow night

1247
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 2: on the show two and a half hours to work

1248
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 2: with the director of athletics at Miami, not just on

1249
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 2: the men's basketball season, but the women. The hockey team

1250
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 2: is ranked in the top twenty this week unbelievable the

1251
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 2: football team went to another bowl game. We'll talk with

1252
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 2: him and maybe perhaps Carrie Combs will check in on

1253
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 2: life with the Michigan Wolverines. Have yourself a great night.

1254
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 2: Thanks to Drew western Heidy for producing, Thanks to you

1255
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 2: for taking Listen the news, followed by Gary Jeff Walker

1256
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 2: and the nightcap right here. This has been Arnel Carrier

1257
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: Sports Doc presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW