WEBVTT - Philippine–American War 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:12.400 The Jesse Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Monday, 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:18.040 a Memorial Day. Yes it is me. I am back. Yes, 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:22.160 I missed you terribly, And let me just go ahead 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.320 and set the table for tonight, which you probably already 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:29.000 know what that's going to be, tomorrow, everything else. So 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:33.159 I know I've been gone. I know it's been two weeks. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:37.879 I'm fine, I'm healthy. I was just on vacation. I 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:42.000 am sorry you worried. I was not trying to worry you. 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:44.760 I'll try to make sure I don't worry you next 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:48.680 time it happens. But I'm back, I'm happy, I'm healthy. 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:56.120 All is good now Tonight it's today's Memorial Day. Today 0:00:56.200 --> 0:01:03.600 is a day exclusively to honor the fallen, not veterans, 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:07.920 by the way. It's not about anybody was to all 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:13.679 who served and police and firefed. No, nope, nope, nope, 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:20.080 that's not today. Today is exclusively for the people who 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:24.880 gave their lives in service to their country and the 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:29.520 families they left behind. That is what today is about. 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:33.440 It is Memorial Day and the people who gave their 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:37.839 lives for this country, they deserve to have a day 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:44.280 that is unwatered down by watered down, I mean the 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.720 thing people do and I get it. It's done out 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:51.120 of politeness and respect. Honor all the fallen and veterans 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:56.440 and my aunt and the fire. No, no, no, nope, 0:01:56.560 --> 0:02:01.760 that's not today. Today's for the fallen. Every year, as 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:05.280 you know, if you listen to this show every year 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:08.440 on Memorial Day, I know it's a day people usually 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:12.440 take off. We have never taken it off, and unless 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.880 I am sick or something happens, we will never take 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:20.520 today off. I believe it is important to honor the 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:25.560 fallen for three hours on Memorial Day, and that is 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.960 what we are going to do tonight. We are going 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.240 to talk. It's going to be all kinds of battle 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.000 history stuff, if that's what you're into, but we're going 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.959 to talk about the circumstances where people gave their lives 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.239 for this country. And we are all over the map. 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:46.959 There's the USS Indianapolis stuff of Korean War, Vietnam, we're 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.680 the Philippine American War. I'll probably start out there. There 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.880 are medal of honor, stories and citations I will read 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.639 what We're going to be all over the map talking 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:03.320 about the circumstances in which men gave their lives for 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:07.960 this country as away the best we can do to 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.760 honor those men, and that is all tonight is going 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.320 to be. It's going to be all history and honoring 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:17.119 the fallen. That's it. There's no politics. I won't even 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.280 really goof off that. Look I want to goof off, 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.440 I've missed you. I won't even do that. Tonight is 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:28.880 exclusively honoring the fallen. Tomorrow we will get back to 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:34.960 our regularly scheduled programming. Tomorrow we'll get back into politics 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.080 and goofing off. And yes, I know there's been a 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.520 thousand news stories since I've been gone, and I'll try 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.360 to hit on this and hit on that. I got 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.880 all your emails. Will deal with all that tomorrow. That's 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:52.560 not tonight. So let's talk what hits me when I 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:59.480 think about the fallen, or a couple things. One the 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.360 circum stances in which they died. And here's what I 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:06.600 mean by that. Maybe you have had a loved one, 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.200 Maybe you're going through this right now. Who is reached 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.640 an elevated age, I'll put it that way. They've reached 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.880 old age. Maybe their health's failing them. Happens to everybody, body, 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:23.159 doesn't last forever, and maybe maybe they are living out 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:27.960 their final days right now in relative comfort as they 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:33.120 prepare to pass this life. I've told you before, my grandpa, 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.640 my Grandpa Hank, that's how he passed, lived into his 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:40.640 nineties and look, couldn't be more blessed, lived out his 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:44.440 final days surrounded by the children who loved him in 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:48.159 prayer and love. And yeah, he died. That sucks, but 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:55.040 that's wonderful, right, These stories of the people who've given 0:04:55.080 --> 0:05:02.400 their lives for their country. They were in misery to 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.880 be in combat in general, whatever form that takes. I mean, 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.880 we'll talk about air crews, people shipwrecked, with all kinds 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:15.279 of things, whatever form it takes. It's not pleasant. It's 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:27.320 not comfortable. It's cold, hot, painful, exhausted, sad, angry. That's 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:32.000 how they lived out their final days before they passed. 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:34.920 And I think about that a lot. It's not a 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:39.039 not a happy send off, if you will. There's another 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.520 part of it I think about, and this is a 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.640 big part of it, and this one we've talked about before. 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:49.360 What they gave up. You know, I'm not an old 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.240 man yet, but I'm getting there, forty four years old, 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.919 and so what does that mean. It means I've experienced 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:03.600 life as a child, as a teenager, my twenties, my thirties. 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:07.240 Now I'm mid forties and forty four. I know what 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:11.080 it's like now to have children, raise them, watch them 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:16.040 go up, grow up, get married. I know what it's 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:23.920 like to experience life after eighteen nineteen years old. There 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:29.560 is so much life that happens after eighteen or nineteen 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.080 years old. And yes, there's all kinds of pain and 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.159 sorrow and hardship that comes with it, but there's so 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:39.480 much joy too. So many wonderful things come with life 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.040 as you continue to age, and I'm sure I will 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.960 experience more wonderful things and terrible things. That's how it goes. 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.159 But these men who died, and some women obviously, But 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:59.800 these men who died, they're eighteen seventeen nineteen. And yes, 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.600 obviously some are a little older than that, but in 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:11.960 general they're twenty years old. They lived until eighteen nineteen twenty. 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:20.480 They died, and they never got married. They never had kids, 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:26.040 No tee ball games, no lunch with the family after 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:34.120 church on Sunday, Christmas mornings, all gone. They gave all 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:38.160 that up in service to you and service to me, 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:43.200 in service to this wonderful country we live in. And 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:48.200 it is a wonderful country, isn't it. By the way, 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.680 I was in Japan for the last two weeks. I 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.760 had told you before that I had a World War 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.400 II trip. I think I told you this set up 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:00.600 for Japan, where I was going to go bounce around Japan, Togo, Okinawa, 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.360 whatnot on see World War two sites and museums and 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.080 just nerd out on some World War two stuff, right 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.960 And look, I'll get into it more tomorrow. That's not 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.360 important for tonight. But I really, you know, I love Japan. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:17.120 I love Japanese people. I think it's a cool culture. Really, 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.320 I really enjoy it. I was just telling Jewish producer 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.760 Chris and producer Corey before the show started. Great trip, 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.640 I love it. I'd go back so clean and safe 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:30.120 and one. If I don't have a bad word to 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.280 say about Japan, I don't have one. I'll probably come 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.960 up with some, but I'm a big fan. It's not America. 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.480 By the end of it, I was ready to see 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:49.520 America again. You don't truly appreciate how blessed you are 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:53.000 to live in this country and be in this country 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.520 until you have spent any amount of time in other countries, 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.400 and it doesn't have to be some third world dump. 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.600 You know, it doesn't have to be Iraq. If you 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:05.320 go to even other first world countries and you've lived 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:08.960 your life in America, you will miss the United States. 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:15.520 We live in a wonderful, wonderful country that I get 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:19.160 homesick for when I leave it. And we live in 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:24.600 that country because eighteen year old men gave up their 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.720 lives for it and still do to this day. To 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.720 this day, you know, we've had recent combat deaths with 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:35.080 this Iran stuff and everything else. To this day, there 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.680 are eighteen year old men and women out there risking 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:43.199 their lives and giving up their lives so you and 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:48.480 me can enjoy the greatest country on Earth. I hope 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.280 you have had or are going to have a hot 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.440 dog today and enjoy yourself and your family. There's not 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.080 a thing in the world wrong with that. The people 0:09:56.080 --> 0:10:00.280 who gave up their lives would want you to to 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.839 take a minute and remember. We are going to remember 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.680 in a moment. In fact, we'll talk about a little 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.959 known conflict. We've discussed it before on the show. Next 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.200 we'll touch on a little bit of the Philippine American War. 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:18.760 Hang on, it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:23.000 Magnificent Monday, a Medal of Honor Monday, where we are 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.840 going to talk battle history, war history, honor the fallen 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:30.679 on tonight's show. We have all kinds of different things 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:35.040 different Look, we even got emails like this, Jesse, please 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:40.240 keep my cousin in mind this Memorial Day Jeffrey Alfred Phillips. 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.880 He was a Lance corporal from South Carolina. He died 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:48.920 in Vietnam. Today is a day to honor people like that. 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:57.120 So Spain at one point in time, it's absurd the 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:02.240 amount of territory in this world Spain controlled. It really 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.720 is wild. If you ever look up a map of 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.480 Spain at the height of its empire, man, it looks 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.280 like they had half the globe and they don't get 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.480 great pub for it. You know, the sun never sets 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.880 on the British Empire. No one ever talks about the 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:19.640 Spanish Empire. They had it all and then, for a 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:25.559 variety of reasons, their empires started to contract. They got 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:30.040 to a point when they controlled for our purposes here 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:33.360 they controlled Cuba. Still, that was a Spanish colony and 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:38.320 they controlled the Philippines. We were having our issues with 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.320 Spain and we decided we were going to kick off 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.960 war with Spain. There are all kinds of Look, there's 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.920 all kinds of controversy about the exact circumstances where that 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:55.040 war kicked off, but doesn't matter. Spanish American war kicks off. 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.480 We might as well touch on this because men are 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:01.520 down there dying. We have to send men down into Cuba. 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.280 Now I'm going to touch on something and it may 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.640 sound stupid and ridiculous, but it's going to come up 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:15.280 several times tonight, and I'm bringing it up because it's true. Weather. 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:21.680 The weather. Do you know why old men talk about 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.160 the weather? You know that stereotype, old men get together, 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.000 see the weather. Weather's going to be bad, Weather's great today. Weather. 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.920 But do you know why old men talk about the weather. 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:34.079 It's not because they're boring, and it's not because there 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:37.439 aren't other things to talk about. Old men talk about 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:42.400 the weather because when you live long enough, the wisdom 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:47.480 you gain lets you know that weather is really, really, 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:52.160 really important for your general happiness in any given day. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:56.920 It just really is. When it is seventy four degrees 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:03.200 little breeze outside. It's just pleasant to be out there. 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:07.960 I live in Houston, Texas. Right now, it's eighty nine 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.920 degrees today with one hundred and sixty five percent humidity. 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.040 I didn't verify that, but that's what it feels like. 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:18.560 If you're outside for fifteen seconds, you were hot and 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:25.560 sticky and sweating and miserable. Now, when we talk about 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.960 especially early wars, but keep in mind, our troops are 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.320 going through this right now over in Iran and things 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:36.360 like that. One thing we don't think about is the heat. 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.720 In misery, I mentioned that I was in Japan over 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:42.960 the last two weeks. At one point in time, I 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.640 was in Okinawa. We finished it in Okinawa. We wanted 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:49.520 to go see battle sites in Okinawa, you know Hacksaw Ridge. 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.000 I was standing on Hacksaw Ridge a few days ago 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.040 that things like that, Well, it's not even the height 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.520 of summer, the heat of the summer. Right now in Okinawa. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.560 It's hot, but not the heat of the summer. I 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:03.720 want to say. It was eighty six degrees eighty seven degrees, 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:11.240 ninety percent in humidity. I was drenched with sweat by 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:18.000 the time I got off of Hacksaw Ridge. Drenched with sweat, drenched. 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:22.760 Now I'm in civilian clothes, short sleeve shirt, got all 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:28.360 the shade, nice cool water bottle. What's that like? Carrying 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:32.440 a full combat load, and at the end of it, 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.720 you don't go back and sit on an air conditioned 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:41.200 bus and cruise back to the hotel where you can 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.360 get a quick shower before eating some noodles and beef. 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.080 At the end of it, if you didn't die that day, 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.840 you will go back to your fighting hole and sit 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.960 in your sweat in misery, and you'll get up the 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.000 next day and do it again, and then do it again, 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.280 and then do it again, and you're so gross the 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:05.200 flies don't want anything to do with you. The Spanish 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.760 American War was fought in Cuba. Cuba's in the tropics, 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:13.720 and guess what, they didn't have air conditioning. We sent 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.280 our troops down there, and they came patriotic American troops 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.960 came from all over the country, and they went down 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:25.600 there and fought in a tropical island they'd never been 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:29.360 to before and would probably never return to. And we 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:33.680 fought to get the Spanish out of that place. And 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:37.360 it was hot and miserable, and people were getting dysentery 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.320 and people are getting shot, and it's just a miserable 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:45.600 state of affairs. We're charging up hills and men are 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:52.720 dying in this foreign place, hot, sweaty, miserable, with no 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:57.440 end insight. Now, thankfully, by the grace of God, the 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:01.640 United States of America prevailed in the Spanish American War. 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.240 And after we prevailed in that war, we got the 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:09.400 spoils of war, and two big spoils we got from 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:13.720 that were Cuba. We got control of Cuba, so that 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.320 dirty Comi Castro took it over. But we got control 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:22.040 of Cuba, and we got control of the Philippines. But 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:28.160 that may have been great news for America, the Filipino 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:32.440 people did not consider the news to be quite as good. 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:36.440 You see, they had been colonized by the Spanish, and 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.760 it wasn't that pleasant. Spanish were famous for not being 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.240 the most pleasant colonizers in the world. You know, some 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.600 people do it really mean, some people do it really nice. 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:49.200 Spanish were not the nicest ones, and the Filipinos thought 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.360 they were going to have their own independent country, and 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.080 we had to inform them that, ah, not so much. 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.520 But now we had to go over to that hot humid, 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:04.120 visible place and fight hang on. It is the Jesse 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:08.560 Kelly Show. On a wonderful Memorial Day, as we honor 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.480 the fallen here, let's talk very briefly because we have 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.119 many other battles and things we want to discuss about 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:17.480 the Philippine American War. Did you know over four thousand 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:22.720 Americans lost their lives in the Philippine American War. Did 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:27.480 you know that only roughly These are rough numbers. Roughly 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:32.320 a thousand of those were combat deaths, shot, stab, that 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.760 kind of thing. Remember, I just brought up the weather 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:41.560 and misery. Over three thousand Americans in the Philippine American 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:49.679 War died from things like malaria, coolera. You ever seen 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:54.520 or read about somebody dying from malaria. They'd take getting 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:58.159 shot any day of the week over dying from malaria. 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:02.960 But American troops got on ships and they cruised across 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:09.399 the oceans and went into a dark, jungle tropical place 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:14.360 like the Philippines, and they started fighting the Filipino rebels. 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:18.080 I guess we'll call them rebels now yours. How it 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:22.800 went one of these miserable things we find ourselves in 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:26.640 because we are such a strong nation with a strong military. 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:29.199 That's wonderful. You want to be a strong nation with 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:33.400 a strong military. But the problem is, whenever you are 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:38.280 a militarily superior to your opponent, and you are clearly 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:43.280 militarily superior, if he doesn't give up, if that's not 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.640 in the cards quite yet, then what he will do 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.879 if he can't fight you conventionally is he will simply 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.400 change and start fighting you unconventionally. Again. We run into 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.320 this everywhere, Vietnam, in Afghanistan, you name it, over and 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.679 over and over again. We have run into this. Pinos 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.840 tried to square off with the Americans when we wouldn't 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:07.680 just hand them their island back. They said, no, we'll 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.080 fight you for it. And then they found out, oh 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:14.320 my gosh, these guys are really great fighters with big guns, 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:18.520 lots of them, endless ammunition, and we're just all going 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.640 to die if we continue to fight. So they decided 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.359 to do it differently, and they decided to fight a 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:32.240 gorilla war. Gorilla war's no fun for anybody, but man alive. 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:36.480 The stories you read about the men suffering in a 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:40.640 gorilla war, it's brutal. What's it look like, Well, you're 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:43.119 dying to square off with the enemy. You're a young, 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:46.880 ambitious man full of testosterone. You signed up to pick 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:50.000 up a weapon and let's exchange some gunfire out on 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.000 the battlefield. You know what, you didn't sign up for 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:56.800 three rebels jumping on you in the middle of the 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.760 night while you're standing post and cutting your guts out 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:02.120 in eating them to you. That's what you didn't sign 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:06.879 up for. This Philippine American War most people don't know about, 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:11.879 had things wonderful, things like Americans getting buried up to 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:15.040 their neck in the ground if they were captured, having 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:18.480 their mouths propped open with a wooden stick, and then 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:21.800 fire ants being led into their mouths to eat them 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:24.720 from the inside out. Did you know these stories? It's terrible, 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:29.000 terrible jungle war. There's a story here, the siege of 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:32.320 Kataboo Cadoo Big. I don't know how you say that. 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:37.239 Whatever what happened there, American troops were going to a 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:42.199 Filipino town. American troops thought we should be safe. We 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:47.200 have numbers. The gorillas found out they were coming, had 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:51.320 them heavily outnumbered and laid siege to these troops. These 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:55.200 troops were hidden in it not hidden. They were inside 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:58.320 of a church and the Filipinos start trying to burn 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:01.680 the church down. The Americans are running out of things, 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:04.080 running out of food, running out of ammunition. They know 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:07.600 they can't survive if they stay in the church, so 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:12.399 they have to do a fighting retreat, shooting. Men are dying, 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:15.480 Most of them are not making it. These are the 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:18.119 kinds of things that have happened. And the reason I 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:19.800 brought this up. We're going to move on to bigger 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:22.600 things like World War two in the Indianapolis and Vietnam 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:26.760 is those men who gave their lives in the Philippine 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:30.360 American War are just as dead as the men who 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:33.680 died in World War Two. They gave up just as 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:37.879 much as the men who died in Vietnam or Afghanistan. 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:44.600 And most people have never even heard of the Philippine 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:51.120 American War, have never even heard about it. Four thousand 0:21:51.400 --> 0:22:01.159 plus dead men crossed the ocean and died hot, humid, sick. 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:04.600 Terrible way to go, and they gave the lives for 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:07.119 this country. Now, speaking of a terrible way to go, 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:11.679 let's talk about a story. You probably know, a story 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:16.080 we've discussed on the show. It was touched on briefly. Really, 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:20.639 the story got a little boost to its fame courtesy 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:24.520 of the movie Jaws. Remember the movie Jaws. Everyone's seen it. 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:29.600 Remember that scene where the grizzled captain of the boat 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.320 he's sitting in there. I think they were getting drunk. 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:34.440 They were all getting drunk on the boat one night, 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:38.560 and he starts talking about the sinking of the Indianapolis 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:42.800 and the sharks and everything else. But what actually happened there. Well, first, 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:48.760 let me clarify this. The USS Indianapolis had a wonderful 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:52.920 battle history. This isn't like this was her maiden voyage. 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:57.720 The USS Indianapolis had a lot of notches on the 0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:03.440 belt in World War two four that terrible fateful night 0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:05.920 that we well, those of us who know it, no 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:09.240 were we think their story began there. It did not 0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:15.360 wonderful history to the USS Indianapolis. But world War two, 0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:17.679 world War two in the Pacific, it was terrible in 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:22.439 every possible way. We were desperately trying to bring it 0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:25.320 to a conclusion. We'll touch more on that tonight. I 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:27.680 was just there, after all, and it's gonna be Memorial 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:30.320 Day stuff, But we are trying to bring it to 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:34.080 some sort of a conclusion that wouldn't cost millions of lives. 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:37.359 That's what we're trying to do. We had been working 0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:39.640 for a long time, as you already know, on an 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:43.639 atom bomb, on a nuclear weapon, an atomic weapon, a 0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:47.400 city killer. Oh, we'd taken out several cities in World 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:51.840 War two, Japanese, German and others. But that took a 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.639 lot of bombs, a lot of fires, a lot of this, 0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:59.600 a lot of the what if one plane with one 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:04.280 bomb could just take care of all of it? A 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:11.520 big deal? Right, Well, we got that technology, but logistics 0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:14.800 are so boring we don't pay attention to them. Once 0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:18.160 you're in the United States of America and you've tested 0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:22.040 and perfected this atom bomb thing, that's all well and good, 0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:29.120 But the actual war is thousands of miles across the ocean. 0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:33.320 You now have to get the bomb, and you have 0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:37.240 to get it across the ocean. Oh, and you don't 0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:39.439 really want to do the put all your eggs in 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:42.639 one basket thing, so you've got to piece it up 0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:46.360 a little bit and send the parts over there and 0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:50.399 then assemble it over there. And because this is a 0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:52.359 bit of a secret we don't want the rest of 0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:57.119 the world to know about, you can't necessarily tell the 0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:03.119 crew anything loose lips sink shit after all, and the 0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:07.280 ship itself, the captain would have been told what was 0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:12.720 on board, and the captain would have been told, you 0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:18.320 need to be quiet. You need the ultimate in secrecy. 0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:24.400 That means, Captain, even if something bad happens out there 0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:29.080 in the open waters, we can't have you firing off 0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:34.800 distress signals. We can't risk it's too important. We cannot 0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:40.719 risk the Japanese somehow acquiring the knowledge that we have 0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:44.200 what we have, or we're about to do what we're 0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:47.160 about to do. And if they happen to get their 0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:49.560 hands on one of our sailors, we know, because they're 0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:53.480 the Japanese in World War two, they will eventually get 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:57.400 that information out of them, no question. So captain, keep 0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:01.080 it quiet. The Indianapolis dropped off parts of the bomb, 0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:08.320 then took off. It was nighttime and the horror story begins. 0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:13.560 Next it is Jesse Kelly Show on a Memorial Day, 0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:17.159 as we talk about war stories, battles, stories, honor the 0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:23.440 fallen the USS Indianapolis top secret mission dropping off parts 0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:30.040 of the bomb, turns around, takes off. Now the Pacific War, 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:33.160 I mean this was the Atlantic too, but the Pacific War. 0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:38.800 It's just so scary. Let me explain. I'm not even 0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:40.919 talking about the land combat, which we will get to 0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:47.000 in a little while. The oceans were such an incredibly 0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:52.119 dangerous place. The ocean's dangerous anyway. The ocean's dangerous in 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.240 peace time with nobody trying to kill you. That's part 0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:57.160 of why I've always loved it. I don't know why. 0:26:57.160 --> 0:27:03.040 I just find it very appealing, scary. This big seems endless. 0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:06.640 You get out on a boat and you get out 0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:10.399 into the ocean far enough away you can't really sea land, 0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:15.920 and you look around and you think, man, I am 0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:20.720 a tiny speck out here, and I can be washed 0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:25.480 away like it's nothing. And that's in peacetime. If you're 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:30.320 deep sea fishing in Mexico, what's it like when there 0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:34.040 might be a submarine under the water getting ready to 0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:41.080 fire a torpedo into your side. The Indianapolis at night 0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:46.160 was cruising along. We're talking about roughly eleven hundred men 0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:53.560 on the ship. A Japanese submarine was watching the Indianapolis. 0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:57.119 Would not have known, wouldn't have any way of knowing. 0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.600 That's part of being in a submarine. You don't tend 0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:04.200 to announ dounce your presence, it's nighttime your cruise, and 0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:11.840 along Japanese submarines starts firing torpedoes at the Indianapolis. Memory 0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:16.119