1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Niel Savandra. You're listening to KFIM sixty the 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: four Report on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Let me 3 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: did you had it? Let me teach you at it? 4 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: Godam Nathan, let me teach you at it. 5 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: It's a columnar. 6 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: Let me teach you at it. Let me teafi have 7 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Happy Saturday to 8 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: you under the weather, Nil Savadra here, but happy to 9 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: be with you all right. Right now, we want to 10 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: introduce you to somebody and their name is Chef Renee Johnson. 11 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: She's the leading uh leading the health cry with a 12 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: Healthy Soul food movement. You find out more about her 13 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: at the website blackberrysoul dot net blackberrysoul dot net. Chef, 14 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: welcome to the forker part. 15 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 3: Hi, how are you? 16 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: I am? Well, look at that lovely face. It's nice 17 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: to see you, even though we're connected today via zoom 18 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: because I'm sick and the last thing I want to 19 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: do is get a chef sick because they don't stop working. 20 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: Ever, That's so true. And I do not want your koodies. 21 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: East nobody does. Nobody ever does. But I'm happy to 22 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: have you on I didn't want to cancel the show. 23 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: You're kind enough to take the time to come on, 24 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: and I figured you're going to be able to hang 25 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: with Miss Kayla there and still have some camaraderie. Tell 26 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: us a little bit about what you do and what 27 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: led you to the path of Blackberrysoul dot net. 28 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 4: You know what happened is in my official company and 29 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 4: they first of all, let me say this, thank you 30 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 4: so much for having me. It is such a pleasure 31 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 4: to be here. But what I will say is that 32 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 4: what started me down this path is that years ago 33 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 4: when I was a teenage mom and I divorced my husband. 34 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to go quick. Divorced my husband. 35 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 4: You know, we were teenage kids and say, you know, 36 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 4: I turned twenty one and didn't like him anymore and 37 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 4: he didn't like me either. 38 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: So but we had three. 39 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 4: Babies together, beautiful babies, and we have ten grandchildren now. 40 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 4: But anyway, so we ended up getting a divorce and 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: I went into the mortgage industry and I was a 42 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: wholesale rep. I was online, I made phone calls with 43 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 4: this voice I have, and I was a wholesale mortgage rep. 44 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: And then the more voice it is yes. 45 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 3: And so the industry crashed. 46 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 4: But what happened is that when I had my wholesal 47 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 4: mortgage in district, I used to hand out food to everybody. 48 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 4: When they would refinance and purchase a home, I would 49 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 4: allow them to order pound cakes or banana pudding, or 50 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: red velvet pound cake, dermal chocolate cake as a gift, 51 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 4: as a thank you for doing business with me. 52 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: Gosh, where were you when we bought our house? Gee whiz. 53 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: I keep buying houses just for the cake. 54 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 3: It's for the cake. 55 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 4: But when the industry crashed, I decided to do something 56 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 4: else that I love, which is food, and so I 57 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 4: ended up opening BlackBerry So Fine Catering and it started 58 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 4: in Georgia, believe it or not. 59 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: And then that's then home. Then I bought good for you. 60 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: There's nothing you know that's one of the best things 61 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: about multicultural communities is bringing bringing things, moving them around. 62 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: Now we do it globally, but moving them around the country, 63 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: moving them around the globe, and learning about new flavors 64 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: or new techniques or new things like that. So, were 65 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: these your favorites as a kid, or these things that 66 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: you just grew up loving or you found later on 67 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: that you liked making and did them. 68 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 4: Well, well, I am going to tell you the truth. 69 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 4: I hated food when I was younger. Absolutely I hated it. 70 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: All Right, this is over, We're all done. And I 71 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: didn't understand that. 72 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: And I had a grandmother. 73 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: I was her first grandbaby, and my grandmother made every 74 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 4: single thing we ate. So when we got stewed tomatoes, 75 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 4: she stewed the tomatoes from the peaches that we used 76 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: in her cobbers. They were her peaches. We pulled everything 77 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 4: out of the ground, every chicken, piece of ham, everything 78 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: she made or farmed. But I didn't like food, but 79 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 4: I love spending time with her. So what ended up 80 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 4: happening is that I got her gift though, because you know, 81 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 4: when you're the first grandbaby, she picks puts everything in 82 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: your mouth. Taste this, baby, taste this. So I did 83 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 4: get her gift. And so when I realized I had 84 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 4: the gift is when I had my own children. 85 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: And oh, you got the gift of a phone call too. 86 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't tear my thinger, somebody's like, I hear 87 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: you on the radio, so I but I did ended 88 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 4: up getting her gift, and I I took it. And 89 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 4: who would have ever thought that this gift would allow 90 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 4: me to do the things that I've done. I just 91 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 4: won the Powerful Women of the Bay Entrepreneur of the 92 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 4: Year for twenty twenty five. I am passing the torch 93 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 4: next month. But who would ever thought that my grandmother 94 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 4: is red beans and rice and BlackBerry cobbler and biscuits 95 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 4: and all the things that she's that gift she's given 96 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 4: me to allow me to do the things that I've done. 97 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: It's about those simple things too. There is in many 98 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: cultures and many different communities, rice and beans is a 99 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: part of their staples. But man, they're different everywhere. Absolutely 100 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: would have thought two ingredients can be so different in preparation, 101 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: and you know, style, even black beans and rice in 102 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: Cuba is different than black beans and rice slightly in 103 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: Nicaragua or all these things, you know, and it's one 104 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: of those things that is pure comfort. Come back, we're 105 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: going to talk more with Cheeff, with chef Renee Johnson. 106 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: She's leading the healthy Soul food movement, and we're going 107 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: to talk about more of that when we come back. 108 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: But you want to find out what a smile she 109 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: has that matches that lovely voice. Blackberrysoul dot Net is 110 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: where you want to go. Blackberrysoul dot net is where 111 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: you can find out more and stick around. We'll talk 112 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: more when we come back. 113 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Fork Report with Nil Savedra on 114 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: demand from KFI AM six forty. 115 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot going on in the world, but as 116 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: we promise you, every Saturday we still set aside three 117 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: hours to just celebrate food, the people that make it, 118 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: the culture behind it, cooking at home, going out to eat, 119 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: new cookbooks, whatever's going on in the world of food, 120 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: and hopefully joy and happiness is what we like to 121 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: talk about. Tim Conway Junior comes in with the Crust 122 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: Report at five o'clock, so go know where Right now, 123 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: I have the pleasure of chatting about healthy soul food 124 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: from chef Renee Johnson. She's been chatting with us a 125 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: little bit about her path. Always fun to hear about 126 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: someone's path to, you know, in their journey and when 127 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: it comes to food. And I don't use journey that 128 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: often because it always sounds sappy, but I'm always fascinated 129 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: at what brings people to where they are. And if 130 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: you want to find out more about her and what 131 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: she's doing, you can go to her website blackberrysoul dot 132 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: net blackberrysoul dot net. So your grandmother gave you the gift, 133 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: she passed it along to you. You weren't a big 134 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: food person. Obviously that has changed and in the industry 135 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: of finances you found a way to speak to people 136 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: and thank them through food, and now it is your 137 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: main focus as you shifted gears. What are your primary 138 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: what are you What are the things that you that 139 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: bring you joy to cook or bag? 140 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: You know what? 141 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 4: I think that everything that I do is about an experience. 142 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: I kind of live my life in a way that 143 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: whatever corner I am in, or whatever corner I'm standing on, 144 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 4: or whatever table I'm at, I want whoever's with me 145 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: to feel something and having a wonderful experience. So as 146 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 4: far as my food is concerned, I want someone to 147 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 4: take a bite of my food, make a whole and 148 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 4: word on the street is I'm the chef that requires 149 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 4: you to make a whole lot of noise like, oh 150 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 4: my god, that. 151 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: Is so good and audible eaters. 152 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: Right, and to give me a kiss. 153 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 4: So I really feel like, no matter what I cook, 154 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: that I want people to enjoy my food and have 155 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 4: an experience that they will never ever forget. And that's 156 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 4: kind of how I roll, even if I'm not cooking. 157 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 4: I want when you see me, you're like, that's my girl. 158 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 4: She's gonna give me an experience. It's gonna be fun. So, 159 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 4: but as far as food is concerned, absolutely, I want 160 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 4: you to enjoy that bite a sweet potato waffle that 161 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 4: I gave you, or that those creamy grits. Instead of 162 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 4: doing a fried shrimp, or doing a shrimp we put 163 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 4: we top it with a fried piece of salmon, and 164 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: then you know, drizzle a little lemon on it and 165 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 4: cheese and take it to a whole nother level. And 166 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: when you take a bite of our homemade biscuits and 167 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 4: dip it in that BlackBerry compode, it's a game changer. 168 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: And it's an experience that most people, you know. And 169 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 4: the other thing is that I enjoy food so and then, 170 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: like you talked about all the different cultures, you're right, 171 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: red brings and rice is a universal thing. I was 172 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: on a cruise and the boy said to me, we 173 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 4: were stuck. We couldn't get off. And he said, I 174 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 4: got to get off this boat because my mother's making 175 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 4: red beans and rice tonight. 176 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 3: And it was Monday. 177 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 4: I said, Monday Nights is red beings and rice to 178 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 4: night for everybody in the South, I know. And so 179 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 4: he was like, yeah, I gotta get off the phone. 180 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 4: I gotta get off this boat. My mama's cooking. So 181 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 4: red rice and beans are totally a universal staple, you know, 182 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 4: And I like you. I like the rice and beans 183 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 4: from Cuba and they put pumpkin in it, uh huh, 184 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 4: all kind of different things. But I don't want to 185 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 4: make this seem like my experience and what I do. 186 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: My experience is universal in the way that I feel 187 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 4: like when you take it, they take a bite of it, 188 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 4: it's an experience you won't forget. But there's so much 189 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 4: good food out there. I don't want to put nothing 190 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: in my mouth that I don't get a good experience 191 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 4: from either. 192 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: You know. 193 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: You know, and I love that, And I think that 194 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: if you can stick around, i'd love to talk to 195 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: you some more because I want to get into the 196 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: moniker of soul food. I think secretly you kind of 197 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: described it in this last segment unbeknownst to the listener, 198 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: But we'll talk about that coming back, and those experiences 199 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: that reach deeper than just your taste buds and talk 200 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: more about your cause driven focus of making things you 201 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: know good and you know that will stop you in 202 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: your tracks. Food doesn't have to be unhealthy at all, 203 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: so we'll talk about that when we come back, Chef 204 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: Renee Johnson. You can find out more blackberrysoul dot net 205 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: blackberrysoul dot net and you can see that lovely face 206 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: connected to that lovely voice by going there, we'll be 207 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: back with more. So go nowhere. 208 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Fork Report with Nil Savedra on 209 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: demand from KFI Am six forty. 210 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: I'm happy to be with you today. Right now. By 211 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: way of the show, we're celebrating food with the founder 212 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: of Blackberrysoul dot net net, Chef Renee Johnson, talking about 213 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: healthy soul foods. So what's your mission and how can 214 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: the listener participate in that mission? 215 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: So I think my mission is, you know, times are changing. 216 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 4: Wasn't onon a time we weren't so cautious about aware 217 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 4: of what we used to eat. We were just only 218 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 4: looking for really good food, you know, And nowadays are 219 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 4: you know, nowadays things are we're more aware of who 220 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 4: we are, we're eating healthy, we're walking even though I've 221 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 4: been allergic to it lately. I got to start working 222 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 4: on walking more. 223 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: I think I have those allergies as well. 224 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 4: Right, But people are aware of what they're doing. People 225 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 4: are trying to stay healthy, they're trying to stay young. 226 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 4: And so what I decided to do is, well, let 227 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 4: me tell you what really happened. My children bossed me 228 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 4: around a little bit and said, Mom, you got to 229 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 4: get with the movement here. Do not put that smoke 230 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 4: turkey in the greens. 231 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: You don't have to. 232 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: But what ended up happening is we had an event 233 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 4: with Guy Ferira years ago, and he had ordered one 234 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty vegan meals and he had ordered three 235 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 4: hundred regular meals. And we had these tables going down 236 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 4: this auditorium in San Francisco. Well, word on the street 237 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 4: was a vegan food was excellent, and so we ran 238 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 4: out of vegan food. So I came home and I said, 239 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 4: that can never happen again. I'm really conscious about how 240 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 4: we show up. And so when I realized I had 241 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 4: a gift to make soul food. Take my grandmother's recipes, 242 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 4: keep her flavor, keep her style, keep her goodness, and 243 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 4: make it vegan and healthy. I said, I'm about to 244 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: do this because what I really wanted to do is 245 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 4: have everyone who eats my food have the same experience. 246 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 4: I didn't want the vegans to be left out or 247 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 4: the people who to eat traditional soul food to be 248 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 4: left out either. And I didn't want to compromise our 249 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 4: flavors and our style. So I took my grandmother's recipe 250 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: and I tweaked them a little bit, and I took 251 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 4: it to a whole another level, I'm gonna say, a 252 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 4: whole noother funky level, and created BlackBerry Soul. And it's 253 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: been a wonderful experience for us and for everybody else. 254 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: I cannot believe that BlackBerry Soul has allowed people to 255 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 4: eat greens without the pork thing or even the smoke 256 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 4: turkey meat or any of those things. I was at 257 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 4: an event in Oakland at MOAD and we were doing 258 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 4: their Thanksgiving and I did all vegan. You know, everybody 259 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 4: was coming in, moaning and growing and home. Oh my god, 260 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 4: oh my god. And I remember my mother said to 261 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: one of the young men there, you have to taste this. 262 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 4: You have to taste it. He was like, I don't 263 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 4: want to. I don't want to, and it was cornbread dressing. 264 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 4: He came back to my mother and said, you are 265 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 4: lying to me that cannot be vegan, and. 266 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: She said, yes, it is, Yes, it is. 267 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 4: So I have learned to create something that's really beautiful 268 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 4: and delicious and healthy, and I want to be healthy. 269 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 4: I'm not talking I'm talking about everybody else. I'm almost 270 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: sixty two years old. I have ten grandchildren that call 271 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 4: me all day long, and I want to be there 272 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 4: for them. I want to celebrate with them. I want 273 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 4: to make sure that I get to experience them any 274 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: time in any way I can. I don't want them 275 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 4: to be having them to walk with me and walk slow. 276 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 4: So I needed to be healthy as well. You know, 277 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 4: I can't catch a ball, and I can't do different things. 278 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 4: I can run with my grandchildren they have to pick 279 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 4: me up afterwards, but I can't run with them. 280 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: You have to have some relaxed downtime after words. I 281 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: hear that completely across the board. I think that's lovely 282 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: and that you know. Walt Disney said he didn't care 283 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: if people complained about the price of Disneyland walking in. 284 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: He cared if they complained walking out. So it made 285 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: me think of what you said, people can complain about 286 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: it being plant based on the way in, but on 287 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: the way out they should be singing its praises. That's 288 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: what you want because everyone has their preconceived notion plant based. 289 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: We in the United States you say vegan, and it 290 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: sounds like a cult or a group or whatever. But 291 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: the reality is plant based food has always been seen 292 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: as a side dish in the United States, but it's not. 293 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: There's great protein driven foods that are plant based that 294 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: are great for us and that are hearty and have 295 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: that experience, and we need to mix it up. I'm 296 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'm an omnivore through and through, but the 297 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: fact is we eat too much meat, and the fabrication 298 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: of our meat in the United State States has gotten horrible. 299 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: And we've gotten from small farms where people you know, 300 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: gabor rats as to these big factory farms that don't 301 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: know what's going on half the time in their own farms. 302 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: So you know, I love that. 303 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: Let me chime in on that too as well as that. 304 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: You know, we've we've grown. 305 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 4: Up having the meat, so it makes understand it's understandable 306 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 4: that you would be a meat eater and love meat. 307 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: We've grown up to think that meat needs to be 308 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 4: the star of our plate. 309 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: Now. 310 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 4: My thing is that we're making our vegetables the star 311 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 4: of our plate now absolutely. So you know, when I 312 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 4: do something, I want my children and my grandchildren to 313 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 4: be and I've been able to create that. They're excited 314 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: about Brussels sproutston and broccoli. And you know, my grandchildren 315 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 4: are saying, oh my god, Grandma, you bought us carrots, 316 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: and even now that we've been eating this way and 317 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 4: and let me say this, and not all of them 318 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: are vegan. But most importantly, I like to even encourage 319 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 4: people just to eat real food. Sure, real food. You know, 320 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 4: instead of opening up a can of spaghetti sauce for 321 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 4: your children, just cut up some fresh tomatles and some onions, 322 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 4: some bell pepper, and not even some bell pepper, some basil, 323 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 4: and throw it on some noodles. Just eat real food. 324 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 4: It's not even so much about vegan and vegetarian, because 325 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 4: vegan doesn't mean that it's a diet. 326 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: Oh no, some of the worst ultra processed food out 327 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: there is vegan. Yeah, because you know, oreos are vegan. 328 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: So it's not yeah, it's not about the v It's 329 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: about the end for nutrients and what's in there. And 330 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: you know how that's going to work with. 331 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 3: Wedge tries and ketchup or vegan. 332 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: And actually doesn't sound half battery, right. 333 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 4: I know, I love it, you know, but I can 334 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 4: ride with some French fries. But that's why I want 335 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 4: to encourage people not so much about being vegan and vegetarian. 336 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 4: When I speak about childhood diabetes and I talk to 337 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 4: mothers and I teach them how to cook. I just 338 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 4: make fresh green beans and blant them and throw olive 339 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 4: oil on them and some salt and pepper and hand 340 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 4: them to a kid. 341 00:17:58,720 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 3: And they're like, oh my god. 342 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 4: But I'm teaching parents to embrace food and find their 343 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 4: kids like vegetables and food. Pick their favorite color, make 344 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 4: food out of those colors, and they get excited about that. 345 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 4: You walk in this door and say, hey, I know 346 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 4: orange is your favorite color. I want you to pick 347 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 4: three things at an orange and we're going to make them. 348 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: I love that. God, that's a great idea. Can you 349 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: hang on for one more segment? Absolutely, I'm enjoying our conversation. 350 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: We come back, we'll talk more with chef for Nane 351 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: Johnson to find out more about her boutique catering and events. 352 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: You can go to blackberrysoul dot net blackberrysoul dot net. 353 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: Is you know, the way someone has love for food 354 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: is always going to show up in their food. And 355 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 1: you will see by going to that website, which I 356 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: love has her smiling while eating a cookie, so she 357 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: knows how to eat and enjoy it. And those are 358 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: the people you want cooking for you. We'll talk more 359 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: when we come back. 360 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Fork Report with Nil Savedra on 361 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: demand from KFI AM six forty. 362 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: We're talking with chef Renee Johnson. She's got a boutique 363 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: catering and events company, black berrysol dot net, blackberrysol dot net, 364 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: and she's really leading the health soul food industry. And 365 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: healthful food is imperative to all of us, and it 366 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: doesn't meant and it's not mutually exclusive to vegan food, 367 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: but certainly plant based food is something that we have 368 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: not focused on enough in this country like they do 369 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: in other places. A Mediterranean diet that they call it, 370 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: and I hate calling it a diet because it's really 371 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: just great food. But the Mediterranean food has long put 372 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: a smaller emphasis and focus on animal proteins, sticking with 373 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: fish and things like that, some seafoods, but primarily on 374 00:19:54,880 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 1: grains and wonderful things to eat. And there's no reason 375 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: that other groups and ethnic groups can do the same. 376 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: So we're talking with chef Renee Johnson as a Latino, 377 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: you as a black woman. A lot of times in areas, 378 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: you know, I joke about my dad not wanting to 379 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 1: raise poor Mexicans, so he moved us and raised us 380 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: as poor white kids. But the thing is, in our 381 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: communities there is a problem with the type of type 382 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: of garbage that pops up in fast food and things 383 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: like that. And so you're right, we're not trained to 384 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: eat that way. We're you know, through I don't know, 385 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: through through sorrow, through frustrations, through all kinds of things. 386 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: We've put that into fat in our food, thinking it 387 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: was love and it's not. It's you know, there's still way, 388 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: and that's what I think about with soul food. You 389 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: were talking about you don't want people to be quiet 390 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: when they eat your food, and that's something that that 391 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: it's your toes, not your tongue. So talk about how 392 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: you modified where you found the love, where you found 393 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: not substitutes, but better nutrients and kicking the bad nutrients out. 394 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: When you do a recipe, now, a traditional recipe. 395 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to say this, Neil. You know, let's 396 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: think about this. 397 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 4: How anything that we do that's good for us is 398 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 4: more expensive all the way around. If I want to 399 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 4: take my children to the ball game, if we want 400 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 4: to go to see the San Francisco Giants, it's going 401 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 4: to take us. It's going to cost me at least 402 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 4: five hundred dollars. Everything that we have to do that's 403 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 4: going to be healthier fun is more expensive nowadays. And 404 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people do not They do 405 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 4: not have the resources to eat healthy as well, or 406 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 4: they think that they cannot. And when I say that, 407 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, white bread is cheaper than wheat bread. 408 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 4: You know, canned food is you know, you can buy 409 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 4: a can of beans for a dollar twenty nine. But 410 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 4: when you think about dry beans, people, for some stranger 411 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 4: reason thinks that it's more expensive. And if you look 412 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 4: at it, and if you buy things in small batches, 413 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: it can be cost effective both ways if we think 414 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 4: like that. But what ends up happening is that people 415 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 4: tend to think that they have to eat this way 416 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 4: because this is what they can afford, or this is 417 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 4: what they know. Doing that is not something that people 418 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 4: think that they can think out of the box. When 419 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 4: I speak to them parents at when I talk about 420 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 4: childhood diabetes, we go on a shopping trip and we 421 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 4: pick up a pound of green beans, and we make 422 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 4: a pound of green beans and let them see that 423 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 4: we've gotten the same amount of those two cans of 424 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 4: beans that we did from fresh green beans. So I 425 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 4: think this is thinking outside of the box so much. 426 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 4: And that's what I had to do with BlackBerry. So 427 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 4: I had to think outside the box because buying vegan 428 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: food and buying fresh food and buying. 429 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 3: And making my own beings. 430 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 4: Of course I could open up a can of beans, 431 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 4: but I don't know what went into those beings. 432 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 3: I don't know. 433 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 4: I know that, yeah, most and some kind of preservative. 434 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 4: So I know that. 435 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: I needed to elevate my experience. 436 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 4: And you know, the other thing I wanted to do 437 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 4: is I wanted to like our tag line is were 438 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 4: Elegant Meat Soul. So I wanted to make sure that 439 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 4: you know, back in the day, grandmothers were in the 440 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 4: kitchen with an apron on and a rag on their 441 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 4: head and we drank out a Mason jars. When we 442 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 4: do BlackBerry Soul, there's none of that going on with 443 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 4: our and nothing's wrong with it because that's our journey. 444 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 4: But when I did my cookbook, I remember the lady 445 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 4: said to me, well, you know, I wanted to use 446 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 4: some slate colors and some wood. And I said, girl, 447 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 4: that's not me. 448 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: I'm royal. 449 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 4: So we're going to use gold, We're going to use black, 450 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 4: We're going to use color. It's going to be vibrant. 451 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 4: And then she looked at me and she said, everything, 452 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 4: I'm never using black again. 453 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: I can't get my pitches. I don't have black on it. 454 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 4: She went and bought all these different things to make 455 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 4: sure that we knew that, to embrace who we are. 456 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 4: So when I did BlackBerry So, I wanted it to 457 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 4: be eggle, elegant. I wanted it to be fresh. I 458 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 4: wanted to be delicious. I wanted people to have an experience. 459 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 4: When we show up for catering. We have no wire racks, 460 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 4: we have all polished chafing dishes, fresh flowers. Everything is 461 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 4: elevated to a whole another experience. In my vision of 462 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 4: what I wanted my clients to experience. 463 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: And I'm looking at your menu. You have meat on 464 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: your menu as well. Absolutely, because people can order go 465 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: look at the menus to see what they have. We're 466 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: out of time, but I want you to do this 467 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: might challenge to you. Go to blackberrysoul dot net. Blackberrysoul 468 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: dot net see Chefronet in all her glory and you 469 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: can get a quote there for a party or something 470 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: you're doing an event. You can look at the menus 471 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: from breakfast is to comfort food to whatever you may 472 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: be doing, and we'll have you back on in the 473 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: future to talk more. Thank you so much for taking 474 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: the time. 475 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Neil, thank you so much for having me and 476 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 4: I can't wait to feed you because it's food here 477 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 4: in this house. 478 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: Don't tell me that just makes it worse. Thank you 479 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: so much. I know everybody's enjoyed you as well. My 480 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: dear chef Renee Johnson will be back with more. Go nowhere. 481 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: You've been listening to the Fork Report, you can always 482 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: hear us live on KFI AM six forty two to 483 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: five pm on Saturday and anytime on demand on the 484 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app.