Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the great American, of course. Right now the
Speaker 1: Congress is debating, if that's what it's called, whether to
Speaker 1: have more subsidies or less subsidies for Obamacare that controls
Speaker 1: about seven or eight percent of the healthcare. The great
Speaker 1: majority of us have healthcare through our employer, through VA,
Speaker 1: through Medicare or Medicaid, and we don't have the Obamacare subsidies.
Speaker 1: What you're going to skyrocket and they're going to be
Speaker 1: done with in about what about three weeks. People are
Speaker 1: on the Obamacare were lied to in the beginning by
Speaker 1: Obama who said that if you like your plan, keep
Speaker 1: your plan, like your doctor, keep your doctor. But the
Speaker 1: best part, Obama said would be that premiums will go
Speaker 1: down on average by twenty five hundred dollars a year
Speaker 1: and it would reduce the deficit. Now, I hate to
Speaker 1: go back in time for facts, but that's what Obama promised.
Speaker 1: It didn't turn out that way, John, and you and
Speaker 1: I now is a fine American, Beth Kaiser. She's the
Speaker 1: senior vice president of the West Region for Anthem Blue
Speaker 1: Crossing Blue Shield, one of the four or five largest
Speaker 1: insurers in the world. And Beth Kaiser welcome, I think
Speaker 1: for the first time to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 2: And first of all, why are you doing this?
Speaker 1: Because most of the time insurance company executives hide under
Speaker 1: the covers.
Speaker 2: Why are you doing this?
Speaker 3: Well, Bill, I'm proud to be with you in Ohio today,
Speaker 3: and I mean the reason we're doing this is at Anthem,
Speaker 3: Blue Cross, and Blue Shield. If we don't manage these
Speaker 3: unaffordable healthcare costs, it will become inaccessible healthcare and we
Speaker 3: don't want that in Ohio. So we must have a
Speaker 3: seat at the table with all the other stakeholders to
Speaker 3: address this.
Speaker 1: It's a big question. Why is it unaffordable? Why are
Speaker 1: there cost guy rocketing? How come we pay more for insurance,
Speaker 1: more for medical care than any country in the world
Speaker 1: and get less results.
Speaker 2: Why is that?
Speaker 3: Well, I said, there's a lot of factors in there,
Speaker 3: but the ones that I know to be true for
Speaker 3: Ohio is we have an aging population, we have increased
Speaker 3: chronic conditions. You also mentioned and earlier about escalating costs.
Speaker 3: We have escalating drug prices, we have provider consolidation, we
Speaker 3: have fraud and abuse, and we have ongoing legislative changes
Speaker 3: that you mentioned that also can draw that can increase costs.
Speaker 1: Are you in the business of providing good healthcare to
Speaker 1: Ohioans or in the business and making money?
Speaker 2: Which is it?
Speaker 3: We are in the business of trying to keep Ohioans healthy.
Speaker 3: That is our mission and our vision is to improve
Speaker 3: the health of humanity, and specifically they're in Ohio, so
Speaker 3: that is our mission.
Speaker 1: Are you involved with the Obamacare subsidies? Is that part
Speaker 1: of what you do? Is the vice president there of Anthem.
Speaker 1: Are you involved in Obamacare subsidies?
Speaker 4: Were?
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: We're involved in conversations at the local level and at
Speaker 3: the federal level with these important discussions around subsidies and
Speaker 3: making sure that individuals stay covered and have access to
Speaker 3: affordable healthcare.
Speaker 2: Why did the promises of what never happened?
Speaker 3: Well, I wish I could speak to that, but I'm
Speaker 3: not going to go there. We would, we'd probably be
Speaker 3: here till Sunday. But what I will say what we're
Speaker 3: doing about it at Anton, Blue Cross and Blue Shield
Speaker 3: is we're looking at ways that we can help curb
Speaker 3: the affordability crisis. And we're doing that through partnerships with
Speaker 3: our providers, with our legislators, and for example, I'll give
Speaker 3: you an example of what we're doing in the hospital
Speaker 3: space with out of network physicians. So in twenty twenty six,
Speaker 3: we're implementing a policy with our hospital providers and partners
Speaker 3: that impatient that will curb out of network specialists from
Speaker 3: using in network.
Speaker 5: Hospitals to build.
Speaker 3: And so you say, well, what will that do if
Speaker 3: you ask me that bill, What that will do is
Speaker 3: that will actually encourage those out of network specialists to come.
Speaker 5: In network and will help lure the cost. So that's
Speaker 5: good for our members, that's good for employers, that's good
Speaker 5: for all.
Speaker 1: We saw an editorial in the Inquirer a few days
Speaker 1: ago from a doctor who spends He said, he's discussed
Speaker 1: with the whole medical care industry. This is from a doctor,
Speaker 1: and I know doctor friends of mine that have quit
Speaker 1: in their sixties. They said they can't take it anymore
Speaker 1: because they spend more time on paperwork than on meeting
Speaker 1: with patients, and they have large numbers of people in
Speaker 1: their offices who deal with paperwork with insurance companies and
Speaker 1: not with healthcare. How would you respond to that charge
Speaker 1: from the physicians themselves that they spend too much time
Speaker 1: on paperwork and not healthcare.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's where Bill, I mean, we all
Speaker 3: talk about AI and the future and what data allows
Speaker 3: us to do, and that's where I think the opportunity
Speaker 3: to be more efficient with our hospitals in the way
Speaker 3: that we share that data. And there's so much technology
Speaker 3: that's improving and reducing the administrative burden that you mentioned
Speaker 3: owned providers, and we're bringing that in many cases to
Speaker 3: those relationships, and it's important because we do want doctors
Speaker 3: to be able to work top of license.
Speaker 1: As far as the Medicare for All, which was the
Speaker 1: cry of Bernie Sanders, that is not something the insurance
Speaker 1: companies would enjoy.
Speaker 2: I would suspect.
Speaker 1: Do you sense that if this problem is not fixed
Speaker 1: in the next five to ten years, there will be
Speaker 1: Medicare for all and in fact, the bills will be
Speaker 1: sent to the US government with no incentive to hold
Speaker 1: down the cost at all because it's a pass through,
Speaker 1: and that insurance companies like yours may be out of
Speaker 1: business because the middleman, which is the insurance company, will
Speaker 1: be taken out. I think in Western Europe there aren't
Speaker 1: too many insurance companies. The building is done by the
Speaker 1: governments of European countries and then they decide who gets
Speaker 1: care who doesn't get care. If you go to Canada,
Speaker 1: I think my Canadian friends tell me, if you want
Speaker 1: a hip replacement, get in line.
Speaker 2: It might be nine months to a year.
Speaker 1: So in a sense, are you fighting for the survival
Speaker 1: of insurance companies and not letting the government take over healthcare?
Speaker 3: Well, i'd the privilege bill of working in Europe and
Speaker 3: seeing how healthcare is handled there, and I'd say we have.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm very proud for where we're at.
Speaker 5: And the healthcare, the quality of healthcare that we get delivered.
Speaker 3: So this is an affordability conversation. So I believe it's
Speaker 3: up to us, and it's not just the payer. It's
Speaker 3: got to be the provider that's at the table, legislators
Speaker 3: and employers to make the changes that we need to address.
Speaker 5: Exactly what you were.
Speaker 1: Describing, and Beth describe to the American people living in Ohio,
Speaker 1: Kentucky and Indiana, what is the European system? So if
Speaker 1: my producer Tony Bender needs a hip replacement, he goes
Speaker 1: to the doctor and stood Guard Germany, and his doctor
Speaker 1: tells him, Tony Bender, you got.
Speaker 2: To get your hip replaced.
Speaker 1: And then what happens to the hip right now in Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: my sister.
Speaker 2: Who was at a wedding and.
Speaker 1: Her hip, her hips how we say, became displaced and
Speaker 1: she saw a doctor that day and the hip was
Speaker 1: popped back in. She has surgery scheduled next week. If
Speaker 1: that happened in Stutgart, Germany, what would be what would
Speaker 1: happen to my sister?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope your sister was having fun before the
Speaker 3: incident happens.
Speaker 5: But you're exactly right.
Speaker 3: I mean, we have top quality care in the US
Speaker 3: and we want to keep that. We just got to
Speaker 3: make it affordable because what would have happened to your
Speaker 3: sister potentially is she would have had to wait and
Speaker 3: she would have had to struggle to navigate.
Speaker 5: Inside their system.
Speaker 3: So each system, as I've seen, has its own challenges,
Speaker 3: But I want to address an anthem. Blue crossfu Shield
Speaker 3: wants to address the challenges that we're seeing in Ohio,
Speaker 3: and we want to do that head on.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, am I right to say that if
Speaker 1: you have a hip replacement, you have a pelvic fracture,
Speaker 1: you have a broken foot, you have a cancer, you
Speaker 1: want to get diagnosed for cancer, You need a heart valve,
Speaker 1: and I want to thank doctor Dean Cariacus for my
Speaker 1: heart valve that's working well. I got in immediately, got care.
Speaker 1: Same thing for any person living that has insurance in Ohio.
Speaker 1: But if you're in the other systems indicate that the
Speaker 1: government pays, the government sets the rules. And as a consequence,
Speaker 1: is there greatly delayed care and other developed countries for
Speaker 1: healthcare that doesn't happen in America?
Speaker 2: Is that true?
Speaker 3: I would say in the different countries that I worked in,
Speaker 3: I saw differences in that, and so I can't speak
Speaker 3: to each one, but the ones that I saw is
Speaker 3: there were delays in some care, but there's also much
Speaker 3: more focused than other some countries owned staying healthy and build.
Speaker 3: That's something that we've got to talk more about. I
Speaker 3: think in the past insurers have not been focused. We've
Speaker 3: been focused on paying claims, make sure we have high
Speaker 3: quality providers and doing a lot of the administrative task,
Speaker 3: and we haven't engaged in the whole health conversation. And
Speaker 3: so that's why I'm proud to be at Anthem Blue
Speaker 3: CROSSLEU Shield is because we're looking at individuals with whole
Speaker 3: health and looking at how we keep people in Ohio
Speaker 3: healthier earlier in life to prevent those issues, the issue
Speaker 3: of rising costs and for health and.
Speaker 1: Beth Kaiser, there's three aspects of a person. I like
Speaker 1: to think philosophically. Can you think with me philosophically?
Speaker 5: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 1: There's three aspects of a person's being. It's how you
Speaker 1: perceive yourself. I think I look like Rinaldo. My wife
Speaker 1: tells me I may not, but she says Christian and Romaldo.
Speaker 1: I think I look great, I look healthy. That's one aspect.
Speaker 1: That's how you view yourself now. The second aspect is
Speaker 1: how other people view you. People may not view me
Speaker 1: as looking six foot two, one hundred and eighty pounds
Speaker 1: like Ronaldo.
Speaker 2: That may be.
Speaker 1: And thirdly, reality do you have fixed in your mind?
Speaker 1: How everach Americans view insurance companies because may I say, Beth,
Speaker 1: it's not a positive Can you understand, how everage Americans
Speaker 1: view not just your company, but all the insurance companies.
Speaker 1: We don't view insurance companies in a positive way. In fact,
Speaker 1: you're as popular as an ascid. You're as popular as
Speaker 1: shall I say, trial attorneys. You're as popular as used
Speaker 1: car dealers. And so do you understand how unpopular insurance
Speaker 1: companies are.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that's the reason I think it's important for
Speaker 3: us to be at the table to make sure all
Speaker 3: understand what insurance looks like, what it means to be
Speaker 3: self insured, if you weren't for an employer, that your
Speaker 3: employers picking up, Like over eighty percent of employers.
Speaker 5: Are self insured.
Speaker 3: So if I ask for in costs five dollars or
Speaker 3: cost five hundred dollars, that that's important to know that
Speaker 3: that helps individuals become savvyer consumers of health care. And
Speaker 3: so we've got to have a voice that's out there
Speaker 3: addressing this crisis.
Speaker 5: Which is unaffordable healthcare. Are you surprised we won't have access?
Speaker 3: So we talked about access and what that means in
Speaker 3: other countries.
Speaker 1: If you have twenty five if you have twenty five
Speaker 1: to thirty million illegals using the healthcare system and pay nothing,
Speaker 1: does not drive up costs for those of us who
Speaker 1: pay well.
Speaker 3: I would say, are we going to if we're going
Speaker 3: back to what I'm not an expert in that, so
Speaker 3: I think I should stand that apart. But what I
Speaker 3: will say is that the factors that I called out,
Speaker 3: including those aging population the chronic conditions, the escalating These
Speaker 3: are things that you and I can address and we
Speaker 3: can work on in Ohio. The issues you were just describing,
Speaker 3: I'm going to lead to the people who are in
Speaker 3: charge for that. I'm an expert in that.
Speaker 4: Bill I got.
Speaker 2: I got one more big question. Are you ready for
Speaker 2: a big question?
Speaker 5: Sure?
Speaker 1: I'm watching this morning, Chuck Schumer. Then I'm watching the
Speaker 1: Republicans speak about healthcare. And if we continue simply the
Speaker 1: government and the rest of us indirectly paying the healthcare
Speaker 1: subsidies for the next three years under Obamacare, in other words,
Speaker 1: keep the same system, keep paying the subsidies. Does that
Speaker 1: have any impact whatsoever and lowering healthcare cost if we
Speaker 1: simply keep the same system and pay more for it.
Speaker 2: Can you answer that question?
Speaker 3: So, I would say, what's important to us is to
Speaker 3: make sure individuals have an off ramp if they're coming
Speaker 3: off a subsiday, and that individuals our members stay covered
Speaker 3: in some capacity. And so that's the reason in Ohio
Speaker 3: we offer a variety of products that allow individuals to
Speaker 3: have something that they can have access to, and then
Speaker 3: addressing unaffordability that will allow it to be more affordable
Speaker 3: for individuals who may be coming off of those subsidies
Speaker 3: in the future.
Speaker 4: Do you have any questions to work closely with that?
Speaker 2: Do you have any questions for me? Go ahead?
Speaker 3: Well no, I was just gonna say, Bill, but you know,
Speaker 3: one of the things that we have to appreciate is
Speaker 3: as those individuals come off of subsidies, we do not
Speaker 3: want our healthcare partners to be for their emergency rooms
Speaker 3: to be clogged, to be.
Speaker 5: Backed up right.
Speaker 3: We want to have an offer amp that allows those
Speaker 3: individuals to have access to care, but not the most
Speaker 3: expensive form of care when it's not needed or warranted.
Speaker 2: Do you have any questions for me?
Speaker 1: I've been asking you questions now, Bill, Sports, Politics, World Capital.
Speaker 5: No, You've had a bunch of great questions.
Speaker 3: The biggest thing I would just like to encourage your
Speaker 3: viewers and your listeners to go to our website www.
Speaker 3: Dot Anthem dot com, forward slash Affordability in Ohio and
Speaker 3: let us know how they feel, as well as access
Speaker 3: the tools that we have for them and the resources
Speaker 3: that we have for them there.
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for having the guts. I
Speaker 1: want to thank you for having the guts to come on.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Bill, God bless me.
Speaker 5: I'm a wonderful weekend and happy holidays to you.
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas, God bless America, Marry Christmas. Beth Kaiser,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you all all. Let's continue with more
Speaker 1: news coming up after my comments. A News Radio seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW. All right, now, here's the Great American and
Speaker 1: here we go and broadcast Suprebity. After one o'clock today,
Speaker 1: we're going to have on the Rob Sanders, Kent County
Speaker 1: prosecutor had a big win yesterday in a murder case.
Speaker 1: After two o'clock today we'll be Robert Sherman like in
Speaker 1: the tank, who's going to report live from Puerto Rico
Speaker 1: about what's happening in Venezuela and so much more. But
Speaker 1: until then, for those who closely, I try to get
Speaker 1: different viewpoints so that you can get a well rounded
Speaker 1: display of different arguments on important issues. And one of
Speaker 1: them is medical insurance costs. All of us have a
Speaker 1: human body, at least those of us who are alive,
Speaker 1: and all of us have need at some point for
Speaker 1: medical services of one type or another. And as you
Speaker 1: get older, you have more need for more medical services.
Speaker 1: Who's cost our confiscatory, and so I have concerned about
Speaker 1: where we're headed when it comes to these medical expenses
Speaker 1: that are skyrocketing. At the end of the day, is
Speaker 1: going to be government sponsored healthcare, much like the DMV.
Speaker 1: So Beth Kaiser seems like a well intended woman working
Speaker 1: for a Blue Cross Blue Shield. She's the executive vice
Speaker 1: president in charge. Just heard from her. The goal of
Speaker 1: the insurance companies sold on New York Stock Exchange. The
Speaker 1: number one goal is to make money. The number one
Speaker 1: goal is to have a high return to the investors
Speaker 1: who buy the stock. The number one goal is to double, triple,
Speaker 1: or quadruple the amount of money you make for the
Speaker 1: next year. The number one goal is not patient healthcare.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: They want to do both.
Speaker 1: They want to have a great profit on one hand,
Speaker 1: they also want to have as much care as possible
Speaker 1: in the other.
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 1: I understand that the whole system is set up in
Speaker 1: such a way in which insurance companies are motivated to
Speaker 1: make money and the government is there to more us
Speaker 1: to play at play the role as the referee, except
Speaker 1: when they sponsor healthcare, which is like at the VA.
Speaker 1: So Beth Kaiser is a well intended person, but her
Speaker 1: goal in life is to make money, and her goal
Speaker 1: in life is to have a return to the investors.
Speaker 2: Her goal in life is to make her bonus. Her
Speaker 2: goal in life is dividends.
Speaker 1: That is to make money, which is why thirty to
Speaker 1: forty percent of health client claims are turned down go
Speaker 1: through an appellate process.
Speaker 2: Good luck with that. It's not going to work.
Speaker 1: In the best world we could have, the Republicans and
Speaker 1: the Democrats would get together, not play cheap political games
Speaker 1: as Chuck Schumer is doing mainly the Democrats, and say
Speaker 1: how do we keep the system we have, which is
Speaker 1: the best in the world, and lower the cost of
Speaker 1: the system. Because every doc I speak to, every hospital
Speaker 1: I speak to tell me they spend more time on
Speaker 1: paperwork than they spend often on healthcare, which is what
Speaker 1: they're in the business of doing.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 1: The Obamacare subsidies are a perfect example of what should happen,
Speaker 1: what could happen, but will not happen. The average American
Speaker 1: once their medical bills paid forthright and pay as little
Speaker 1: as possible and get the best care imaginable. That is
Speaker 1: not happening right now in America and is not happening.
Speaker 1: Guess what anywhere in the world. I try to penter
Speaker 1: down on the fact that in Europe they have government
Speaker 1: sponsored healthcare, but to get health care is in many
Speaker 1: months or many years process. It isn't like in our
Speaker 1: system you walk into an er and there's a possibility
Speaker 1: within a week or two you may get care. I
Speaker 1: use my sister having her hip go out at a
Speaker 1: wedding at Santex Church all of a sudden, but within
Speaker 1: six hours it's popped back in functioning and surgery is
Speaker 1: scheduled to replace the hip. That doesn't happen in Germany
Speaker 1: or Holland or England, or it doesn't happen that way.
Speaker 1: So what the arguments about now with the so called
Speaker 1: Obama healthcare because it has failed miserably, and the news
Speaker 1: media in this country, bought and paid for by the Democrats,
Speaker 1: are not going to tell you the truth about Obamacare.
Speaker 1: It was designed to fail because when government pays the bills,
Speaker 1: there's no incentive to hold down cost and improve the care.
Speaker 1: The government is issuing a check to the insurance companies,
Speaker 1: whether it's United or Anthem or Kaiser, Blue Blue Shield.
Speaker 1: Their goal in life is to make money, maximized shareholder
Speaker 1: value Secondarily, if they provide some good benefits along the way,
Speaker 1: that's good too, right, It doesn't work that way. All
Speaker 1: the credits will do is to kick the can down
Speaker 1: the road for three years, double a triple the cost
Speaker 1: of medical care that will be paid for by the
Speaker 1: tax prayer with Here's the goal, the long term goal.
Speaker 1: Mark my words. I may not be with you in
Speaker 1: five or ten years, but this is what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: The American people will be so fed up with the
Speaker 1: medical insurance companies, so fed up with hospital care costs,
Speaker 1: so fed up with their doctors spending time on paperwork
Speaker 1: and not healthcare. The American people will say, to hell
Speaker 1: with all the insurance companies. Get rid of United and
Speaker 1: Anthem and Kaiser Blue costs, but get rid of all
Speaker 1: of them and give the responsibility of health and human
Speaker 1: services to care for We're going to have a one
Speaker 1: payer system, much like Europe, much like most parts of
Speaker 1: the world. The government provides you healthcare, the insurance companies
Speaker 1: are gone, and the cost then will really skyrocket. There'll
Speaker 1: be no motivation whatsoever to hold down any cost. The
Speaker 1: government's going to write a check of trillions of dollars
Speaker 1: every year right now, the cost of health care in
Speaker 1: America is about one sixth of the entire economy, which
Speaker 1: is about three trillion dollars a year, largely borne by
Speaker 1: the insurance companies and by employees working for employers that
Speaker 1: have eighty percent of the coverage is provided through work,
Speaker 1: and the employers are motivated to hold down the expenses because,
Speaker 1: after all, they're paying the bill. When the government pays
Speaker 1: the bill, there's no incentive to hold down the expense.
Speaker 6: So down the.
Speaker 1: Road, whether it's whether it's phones or whether it's television
Speaker 1: sets or whatever. When these fancy sets came out about
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, it was like ten thousand dollars for
Speaker 1: a set.
Speaker 2: Now it's down there about three hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Competition works, and healthcare doesn't work that way.
Speaker 2: And so we're going to have.
Speaker 1: In the next five to ten to fifteen years, the
Speaker 1: government will seize control of the medical insurance industry, the hospitals,
Speaker 1: the pharmacies, the medical schools, et cetera. And it'll be
Speaker 1: a huge enterprise which will provide worse care and less
Speaker 1: results to the American people. And it's set up to fail.
Speaker 1: When Chuck Schuman, the Democrats say simply supply three more
Speaker 1: years of subsidized credits on health insurance. That will incentivize
Speaker 1: the whole system to charge more because the government's paying
Speaker 1: the bill. The stock of insurance companies have gone up
Speaker 1: three hundred percent, and the amount of care to average
Speaker 1: Americans has gone down. You're in the network, you're out
Speaker 1: of the network. Remember the remember Obama standing up, You
Speaker 1: like your doctor and keep your doctor, like your like
Speaker 1: your plan, keep your plan. Insurance premiums down twenty five
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a year on average, and it's going to
Speaker 1: reduce the deficit.
Speaker 2: Of course it didn't. It lied.
Speaker 1: All Obama did during his presidency was basically lie. And
Speaker 1: now the chickens have come home to roost about ten
Speaker 1: or fifteen years later, and the pass through to the
Speaker 1: government by insurance companies has caused a three hundred percent
Speaker 1: increase in the bills. And now who's going to pay
Speaker 1: the bill or The Democrats want to convince you that
Speaker 1: they have the solution. So when the election takes place
Speaker 1: in the midterm, they want to ride this horse all
Speaker 1: the way to electoral victory and the government will seize
Speaker 1: more control of your healthcare, providing less care less efficiency
Speaker 1: out of higher cost, which is the way things always
Speaker 1: work when the government's involved. And so Democrats say, well,
Speaker 1: let's pay all the cost of this eight percent of
Speaker 1: the population on Obamacare. Let's pay all the cost and
Speaker 1: we'll just simply pass it on to the American people
Speaker 1: and the former increased taxes. And the Republicans say, now,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, can we bring into the same forces
Speaker 1: that will hold down the expenses of gasoline and television
Speaker 1: sets and clothing and food, bring those same systems in
Speaker 1: place to healthcare going up ten to fifteen percent every year.
Speaker 1: And the Democrats won't let them do it. And most
Speaker 1: of the American people that involves you and me, say
Speaker 1: to each other, you know what, we don't fully understand this.
Speaker 1: We don't use the healthcare system until it's an emergency
Speaker 1: or a crisis, don't use until someone gets old. So
Speaker 1: what we're going to do is turn over to the
Speaker 1: government the ability of determining who gets operations, who doesn't,
Speaker 1: who can see a doctor who doesn't. When I ask
Speaker 1: Beth Kaiser, isn't it true that of twenty to thirty
Speaker 1: million legals use the healthcare system and pay nothing for it.
Speaker 1: That's going to drive up expenses, drive up costs. She
Speaker 1: didn't answer the question when I said to her that,
Speaker 1: you know what if we simply extend the Obamacare subsistance
Speaker 1: and credits for three more years without affecting whatsoever the
Speaker 1: actual cost of the medical care.
Speaker 2: Isn't that a bad idea? She couldn't answer the question.
Speaker 2: That's not.
Speaker 1: Her goal in life is to return shareholder value, and
Speaker 1: your goal in life is to get good medical care
Speaker 1: at a reasonable cost.
Speaker 2: And the two shall ever meet. So that's where we are.
Speaker 1: Beth Kaiser, I'm sure as an ice lady, and she
Speaker 1: had her pat answers for any question I asked, it
Speaker 1: was right there, try it, and she understands that. As
Speaker 1: far as the most despicable persons in America, at the
Speaker 1: bottom of the list are insurance companies, lawyers and use
Speaker 1: carson and politicians. I think the approval rating of the
Speaker 1: Democrats in the Congress is eight percent and approval ratings
Speaker 1: of the Republicans are twelve percent. You can't get ninety
Speaker 1: percent of people to agree on anything. But we know
Speaker 1: we don't like medical insurance companies, we don't like lawyers,
Speaker 1: we don't like used car dealers, and we shure us out.
Speaker 1: Don't like government officials who will use this opportunity. Never
Speaker 1: let a crisis go to waste. Just seize more control
Speaker 1: of the American economy. Long term, that'll be a disaster.
Speaker 1: But of course, having thirty million people use the medical
Speaker 1: system and pay nothing into it is going to rise
Speaker 1: the cost of those who do pay.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense to you? Now, let's continue. We
Speaker 2: never stop, We simply continue.
Speaker 1: But I give Beth Kaiser credit for coming on, and
Speaker 1: she spoke from a perspective of Blue Cross Blue Shield,
Speaker 1: and the interests of Blue Cross and Blue Shield financially
Speaker 1: are not necessarily the interest of individual Americans who need healthcare.
Speaker 1: Let's continue, and coming up after one o'clock will be
Speaker 1: the Great rob Sanders. After two o'clock is Robert Sherman
Speaker 1: of News Nation live from Puerto Rico about Venezuela, all
Speaker 1: on News Radio seven hundred WLWY. Billy Cunningham, the Great America.
Speaker 1: After two o'clock today will be Robert Sherman reporting live
Speaker 1: from Puerto Rico about Venezuela. But until then, Hamny County,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Kent County has just talked to Joe Eaters
Speaker 1: off the air. Kenton County Prosecutor Rob Sanders is joining
Speaker 1: us now, and Rob first of all, Joe Eaters call
Speaker 1: it in. I talked to him off the air. Wants
Speaker 1: to wish you and yours and merry Christmas and the
Speaker 1: happy New Year. How about that from Justice Joe.
Speaker 6: That's fantastic, Willie. I haven't talked to Joe in a
Speaker 6: few days here, but you know, it's it's been nice.
Speaker 6: I've had Joe kind of vanished off the face of
Speaker 6: the Europe. He did a little while there when he
Speaker 6: first hit the bench, but he's come back around and
Speaker 6: he's given me a shout a few times here. Recently.
Speaker 6: We've had a lot of interest in things going on,
Speaker 6: things in the news. So it's nice to be back
Speaker 6: in his company and catch up with him and laugh
Speaker 6: and cry and debate and carry on about all things
Speaker 6: news and politics and family and everything else that Joe
Speaker 6: and I talk about. So I'm glad he's catching up
Speaker 6: with you as well. But by all means, Merry Christmas
Speaker 6: to the Beaters family.
Speaker 1: You know we have great breakfasts together. And I'll say this,
Speaker 1: Justice Joe is Sharon Kennedy, the Chief Justice, tells Joe
Speaker 1: know your role and shut your mouth and up until recently,
Speaker 1: Joe Eaters has known his role in the black robe,
Speaker 1: and he shut his mouth at some point, though he
Speaker 1: may come out. Is there a justice Rob Sanders down
Speaker 1: the road.
Speaker 6: I don't know. Maybe if I get to be as
Speaker 6: old as Joe is someday, if I live that long, Willie,
Speaker 6: my patience will grow. But right now I have a
Speaker 6: really hard time listening to other lawyers try cases. You know,
Speaker 6: I'm a horrible supervisor when it comes to watching my
Speaker 6: attorneys trycases because I don't like to be in the courtroom.
Speaker 6: I get too too cranky and two, I don't know,
Speaker 6: nervous isn't really the right word. I just want to
Speaker 6: jump in and do the case myself. So I know
Speaker 6: I dropped my assistance crazy. Sometimes when I'm in the courtroom,
Speaker 6: I just don't you know, I have a hard time
Speaker 6: to listen to the defense attorneys do their cases. I
Speaker 6: just wanted to shut up, sit down, let's get this
Speaker 6: thing moving. So I don't know that I have the
Speaker 6: patience to ever wear a black robe. I have great
Speaker 6: respect for the people to do, but I've never been
Speaker 6: Patience has never been one of my assets. Willie, and
Speaker 6: I don't know that I've got the temperament to be
Speaker 6: a patient judge like Justice Jill.
Speaker 1: Well, when you get as old as Joe me, you might.
Speaker 1: But Sharon Kennedy, the chief, sent him a big note
Speaker 1: in black letters, know your role and shut your mouth.
Speaker 1: And Joe has said, yes.
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna guess and say, given Joe's beautiful bride
Speaker 6: and her temperament, that's probably not the first woman to
Speaker 6: tell Joe that.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he probably come, you know, accustomed to it, and
Speaker 6: so I'm sure he took it in strat Oh.
Speaker 1: Yes, and we're gonna talk Mario Pain in a moment.
Speaker 1: I'm watching CNN, MSNBC, Breitbart. I'm watching Fox News and
Speaker 1: I'm watching the hearing for the fired Michigan football coach,
Speaker 1: Sharon Moore, and I'm looking at him, and it's coming
Speaker 1: out now that the University of Michigan knew for months
Speaker 1: that he was stalking a Michigan employee working for him
Speaker 1: as executive director of the head football coach. They knew
Speaker 1: that Page was being victimized by their head football coach.
Speaker 1: And this guy was making five last year, he made
Speaker 1: eight million dollars for bonuses. Sharon more likely to make
Speaker 1: eight million dollars this year. And now he's sitting in
Speaker 1: a holding cell, having threatened to kill and a commit
Speaker 1: suicide break into the homes of Michigan employees. I can't
Speaker 1: recall someone who's gone from a year ago beating the
Speaker 1: Buckeyes at Ohio Stadium, taking the place of Harball who
Speaker 1: went on the NFL fame, I guess. And now he's
Speaker 1: sitting in a holding cell with a look in his
Speaker 1: eyes saying, what in the hell is going on around
Speaker 1: this place? And now the University of Michigan, which has
Speaker 1: ten or eleven assistant coaches, all of which have been disciplined,
Speaker 1: the school's on probation for all the shooting they had
Speaker 1: done in the past. Now they're head football coaches in
Speaker 1: a white black uniform, sitting in a holding cell, nodding
Speaker 1: his head, having threatened to kill, breaking the homes. And
Speaker 1: this is the football coach of the University of Michigan.
Speaker 1: The maze in the blue. What do you think about that?
Speaker 6: Well, Willly, it's just going to show you how crazy
Speaker 6: intense the Ohio State Michigan rivalry is. And I'm not
Speaker 6: a Michigan or an Ohio State fan, Frankly, I think
Speaker 6: anybody who's not a fan of either one of those
Speaker 6: programs just gets annoyed with the both of them. That's
Speaker 6: the category I fall into. But if Michigan was truly
Speaker 6: covering this up, yes until after the Ohio State game,
Speaker 6: Yes they didn't have to traction try and betoate. That's
Speaker 6: just sick. Oh He's domestic violence is nothing to screw
Speaker 6: around with. And it's you know, it's I hate to
Speaker 6: even make jokes in the same segment here about Ohio
Speaker 6: State and Michigan that we're going to move into domestic
Speaker 6: violence because the murder tribe and dealing with all week
Speaker 6: was filled with domestic violence. And if this coach really
Speaker 6: was doing the kind of things he's being accused of now,
Speaker 6: then shame on him and he deserves whatever he gets,
Speaker 6: and shame on the University of Michigan. And if that's true,
Speaker 6: they ought to end up stroking a big check to
Speaker 6: this lady to compensate her for the hell that this
Speaker 6: coach has put her through. That they didn't put a
Speaker 6: stop to or call the police or do whatever they
Speaker 6: had to do because God forbid it mess up their rivalry.
Speaker 1: Gain day thought they got their high state game coming
Speaker 1: up a couple of days after Thanksgimming, so they had
Speaker 1: to keep the lid on. The AD's got to go.
Speaker 1: Whoever knew about it's got to go. I guess this
Speaker 1: woman's life hung in the balance, and she's talking the
Speaker 1: crap out of her and had a baby. I think
Speaker 1: he paid for the abortion. So in addition everything he did,
Speaker 1: he killed his own born baby through paying for it.
Speaker 1: And page is pages in therapy. And Paige was a
Speaker 1: girlfriend of his wife. He's thirty nine years old with
Speaker 1: three little girls. But the Kelly More is the wife
Speaker 1: been married for ten years of the head football coach
Speaker 1: you're on, and she is a girlfriend of the paramore.
Speaker 2: What do you think about that one?
Speaker 6: Well, Willie to find out that the University of Michigan
Speaker 6: really was sandbag and dragging their feet on doing something
Speaker 6: about criminal behavior on behalf of their football coach just
Speaker 6: so they could get through the Missivalry game. I don't
Speaker 6: think Michigan was ever going to make the playoffs or
Speaker 6: get a bowl game or anything like that. But if
Speaker 6: they really were not going to the police and trying
Speaker 6: to cover this up just so they could beat Ohio State,
Speaker 6: then they ought to suspend the entire dang football team,
Speaker 6: because that's just inexcusable behavior under any circumstance to put
Speaker 6: a victim of domestic violence through even more violence and
Speaker 6: more trauma just for a football game. I'm the biggest
Speaker 6: football fan. It's anybody that's no joking matter, that's just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the DV, I mean, I mean this Michigan
Speaker 1: football out to get the death penalty.
Speaker 2: The NCAA will yeah, death penalty.
Speaker 6: Death.
Speaker 1: Let let's talk about Mario Paine talking about DV. Explain
Speaker 1: what happened. You had a successful outcome. By the way,
Speaker 1: on my birthday, December the eleventh, yesterday, talk to me
Speaker 1: about Mario Paine. Tell the American people about him.
Speaker 6: Well, Willie, Happy birthday, by the way. I'm sorry that
Speaker 6: I missed it. I'm sure it was a big show yesterday.
Speaker 6: Everybody's being a Happy birthday's to you. And I know
Speaker 6: what I told you earlier the week that this Mario
Speaker 6: Payne trial was likely to run through your birthday. So
Speaker 6: unfortunately I wasn't available yesterday for the big celebration. But
Speaker 6: happy birthday. I celebrated by convicting Mario Paine of murder
Speaker 6: and convincing the jury and they agreed that he deserves
Speaker 6: a life sentence for the murder of a young lady
Speaker 6: named Kiera Lane, who was only twenty five years old
Speaker 6: back on January sixth, twenty twenty four, when Mario Pain
Speaker 6: gunned her down. This is a young woman that had
Speaker 6: been engaged in a relationship with mister Pain, despite the
Speaker 6: fact that he was apparently engaged in multiple relationships with
Speaker 6: multiple women had kids with multiple women. But when Kiara
Speaker 6: Laine realized that she was just being toyed with by
Speaker 6: Mario Pain and he wasn't interested in a long standing
Speaker 6: relationship with her being a husband and a father to
Speaker 6: their two children like he should have been, she broke
Speaker 6: things off. She got a new boyfriend. Well sad thing
Speaker 6: is the moment that Miss Lane posted a photo of
Speaker 6: herself and this new boyfriend to social media. Mario Pain
Speaker 6: apparently lost his mind and started blowing up her phone,
Speaker 6: demanding to know where she was, who she was with,
Speaker 6: what she was doing. She had to silence her phone
Speaker 6: through the night because he had called her so many times,
Speaker 6: according to the witnesses a trial. But the next day
Speaker 6: he changed his tactics. He called her and said I
Speaker 6: want to visit my kids, and Kiara wasn't the kind
Speaker 6: of mother to keep the children away from their father,
Speaker 6: no matter how big of a pain in the backside
Speaker 6: he was to her, so she agreed to meet him
Speaker 6: in a Kroger. But when they got the Kroger in Latonia,
Speaker 6: mister Payne changed his tune and said, no, I want
Speaker 6: to keep the kids overnight. So she said, well, I
Speaker 6: didn't pack an overnight bag or a diaper bag for
Speaker 6: the baby. Said we've got to go back to my
Speaker 6: house and get that stuff, and they did, and when
Speaker 6: they got back there, he started trying to talk himself inside.
Speaker 6: She wouldn't let him inside, and she says, I'm not
Speaker 6: interested in this. I've moved on. I've got a new boyfriend.
Speaker 6: And when she went to literally close the front door
Speaker 6: of her house and closed the door on their relationship,
Speaker 6: mister Payne produced a three eighty caliber handgun and shot
Speaker 6: her four times at point blank range. This was in
Speaker 6: front of numerous members of miss Lane's family, all who
Speaker 6: were over at her residence at the time of her killing,
Speaker 6: and he killed her right in front of her little
Speaker 6: sister and with an earshot of a number of different
Speaker 6: family members who were just up the stairs and came
Speaker 6: running down to find Caroline taking her last breaths just
Speaker 6: inside the front doorway of her RESI. Mister Payne fled
Speaker 6: the scene and Covington police put out. You know, it
Speaker 6: was all hands on deck. Every detective in the crime
Speaker 6: bureau got called out. They investigated the case. Detective Jim
Speaker 6: Lindeman got an arrest warrant for mister Payne and he
Speaker 6: was found five days later down in Louisville, Kentucky, and
Speaker 6: police down there arrested him, shipped him back to us.
Speaker 6: Took us two years, almost two years to get him
Speaker 6: to trial because mister Payne was feigning mental illness and
Speaker 6: claimed he wasn't competent to stand trial. But the folks
Speaker 6: that do the evaluations for the state did his psychiatric evaluation.
Speaker 6: He said, now this guy's the joker. He's just faking.
Speaker 6: In fact, he's faking worse than anybody we've ever seen
Speaker 6: trying fake mental incompetence to stand trial. So we finally
Speaker 6: got him called the trial on Tuesday. Took us three
Speaker 6: days to get the trial done. Willie, and we celebrated
Speaker 6: your birthday late last night, just after five o'clock with
Speaker 6: a life sentence from the jury, and I look forward
Speaker 6: to mister Payne's final sentencing in front of Judge Kathy
Speaker 6: late in February of next year. I anticipate she will
Speaker 6: impose the jury sentence and send mister Payne off to
Speaker 6: Eddieville at our state penitentiary for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1: At least, maybe longer after he's dead, keep him for
Speaker 1: another year or two. I would point out to my left,
Speaker 1: a Michigan man, the judge in the case of Sharon
Speaker 1: Moore posted a allowed him to post upon a twenty
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars which he's got in his front right
Speaker 1: pocket for home invasion and a whole bunch of other
Speaker 1: felonies along with misdemeanors. But nonetheless, as far as mister
Speaker 1: pain is concerned, and by the way, they've ordered a
Speaker 1: mental evaluation for the head football coach of Michigan. Nonetheless,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with that. So the probability of
Speaker 1: this judge, who's a good judge in Kenton County, Payne's
Speaker 1: going to get the rest of his life in prison
Speaker 1: at least. And how's the rest of how the kid's doing?
Speaker 6: Well? The kids are being raised by their grandmother and
Speaker 6: by the This is a pretty extended family lots here,
Speaker 6: had lots of brothers and sisters, cousins. She is, her
Speaker 6: parents are split up. She's got a big family on
Speaker 6: both her mom's side and her dances side that are
Speaker 6: all pitching in to help raise her. Two babies that
Speaker 6: are now only two and four years old, not old
Speaker 6: enough to know what happened to their mother. The older
Speaker 6: one I think knows Mommy's in heaven, but that's about it.
Speaker 6: The younger, youngest one is still too small, too tender
Speaker 6: of age, to explain things too. But none of these
Speaker 6: kids realized that not only has mommy gone, but she
Speaker 6: was murdered and our dad was their killer. It's just
Speaker 6: a horrible thing. We talked about this to try. One
Speaker 6: of the reasons mister Payne deserves a life sentence is
Speaker 6: because he robbed not just care of her life, but
Speaker 6: he robbed his own children of their mother. And he's
Speaker 6: going to cause his own children to be raised without
Speaker 6: a father in the home. Because mister Payne will be
Speaker 6: locked in cage for the rest of his life, and
Speaker 6: rightfully so.
Speaker 2: Olet's see what happens down the road and awfully said,
Speaker 2: and the head football coach of Michigan could have done
Speaker 2: the same thing as Paints.
Speaker 6: Said, in a really bad direction. There everything that I've
Speaker 6: read in the media is through about that case. Willy.
Speaker 6: It's a good thing that they caught up to him
Speaker 6: when they did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and murder suicide. You know, many times murder just
Speaker 1: precedes suicide. He could easily have killed Paige, his girlfriend
Speaker 1: who worked for him, and by the way, her income
Speaker 1: doubled in the last year while he was having sex
Speaker 1: with her. And then after a while she said, I
Speaker 1: can't do this anymore. I just can't keep doing this.
Speaker 1: It's hurting you, hurting me. My friend is your wife,
Speaker 1: and I can't keep doing this. And that's when the
Speaker 1: stalking and other crimes committed, and Michigan authorities knew about
Speaker 1: it but wanted a way to after the Ohigh State game.
Speaker 6: And so there's another lesson in this story, Willy. It's
Speaker 6: don't DoorDash your abortion drugs to your head football coach's office.
Speaker 6: You know, if you're going to engage in this kind
Speaker 6: of activity, which is bad enough that this coach was doing,
Speaker 6: but definitely don't use door dash to get your abortion
Speaker 6: drugs delivered to the head football office at the University
Speaker 6: of Michigan.
Speaker 1: Unless Jeron Morris transgender, I don't think he had much
Speaker 1: need for abortion drugs. Maybe that was a Maybe that
Speaker 1: was a tip, a little queue right there. Maybe something's
Speaker 1: Of course, the Michigan family knew about it and did
Speaker 1: nothing because of the big game coming up. Well, we
Speaker 1: got to run Rob Sanders once again. Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 1: You've been my most frequent guest this year. You've been
Speaker 1: on fourteen times. Joe Dieters held that record for a while,
Speaker 1: but now that he's got a muzzle on him, he
Speaker 1: can't talk. You're the number one guest this year, and
Speaker 1: I think number three things Rob. Number one, your knowledgeable,
Speaker 1: Number two, you have a great radio voice, and number
Speaker 1: three you're accessible. You put those things to three things together, substance,
Speaker 1: voice and accessibility. You're number one in my book.
Speaker 6: Well, Willie, it's been an honor and a pleasure. If
Speaker 6: I'm not mistaken, I was your very first guest of
Speaker 6: twenty twenty five when you came back from vacation from
Speaker 6: your break. Yes, and I've got to be I guess
Speaker 6: now one of your last ones. So it's been an honor,
Speaker 6: a pleasure. Merry Christmas and happy Birthday to you, Bill,
Speaker 6: Marry Christmas, to the People's Judge, to Tony Bender, Seg,
Speaker 6: Rocky DJ Hodge, all my friends at seven hundred WLW,
Speaker 6: the number one fan of the Bill Cunningham Show, Ross
Speaker 6: Fine and everybody. I hope you have a safe, happy
Speaker 6: and healthy New Year. And I look forward Willie to
Speaker 6: hopefully talking to yes, talking to you on your very
Speaker 6: first show, and.
Speaker 2: You will be, you will be.
Speaker 6: Let's run it back. We're gonna defend this title two
Speaker 6: years in a row of the number one guest on
Speaker 6: the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 2: You you'll be my first guest in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 6: Rob, thank you very much, excellent Willie, have a great day.
Speaker 1: God bless you. Let's continue with more. There's Rob Sanders.
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Speaker 2: I'm very serious, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 7: I hope you don't pass judgment because we don't know
Speaker 7: the facts of the case.
Speaker 2: We don't know the whole story.
Speaker 7: I'm just glad everyone and this is all right, and there's
Speaker 7: no acting that no one is injured, because it could
Speaker 7: have been a lot worse. It was very serious issue.
Speaker 7: Early tonight, around five o'clock, Bill Cunningham was in an
Speaker 7: action involving another vehicle, even though he didn't I'm reading
Speaker 7: the news account here, even though he didn't cause the accident.
Speaker 7: He was given a field sobriety test and Bill Cunningham
Speaker 7: failed that field sobriety test. He was also given a
Speaker 7: blood test. No word on the result of that test.
Speaker 7: End of statement. Very serious charge, serious accusation. I'm glad
Speaker 7: that no one was injured in this thing. No word
Speaker 7: comments from Steven R. Adams if that's indeed who was
Speaker 7: involved in this thing with representation, But just wanted you
Speaker 7: to have that story before the news came out, before
Speaker 7: the smear campaigns began. Everyone makes mistakes and I'll just
Speaker 7: leave it at that. Our thoughts and prayers though with
Speaker 7: mister Cunningham.
Speaker 2: Hello, quiet, I'm broadcasting the right the remains silent.
Speaker 1: Anything I can we'll be using against me in a
Speaker 1: qrrel By the way, at five o'clock yesterday I was
Speaker 1: on the air, by the way, with the rock and
Speaker 1: with Eddie, one might ask that question, thank you. The
Speaker 1: truth never gets in the way of a story by
Speaker 1: Scott Sloan. Not fore it's not an impediment. Correct the
Speaker 1: two thousand, By the way, Steven R. Adams is dead.
Speaker 2: Yes, God bless him.
Speaker 1: Nonetheless, he was killed tragically by a person who is
Speaker 1: now serving a serious time in state prisoner is warrible.
Speaker 1: You refuse to comment, say no to the po po Well,
Speaker 1: well he was killed, really murdered, I thought by a vehicle.
Speaker 2: But that's the difference. I love Steven R. Adams, loved him.
Speaker 1: You refuse to talk about Michigan football. Should they get
Speaker 1: the death penalty? Yes, the death penalty? Man, who's going
Speaker 1: to give it to him? There's no NCAA, there's no group.
Speaker 1: Well do you think the Big ten's going to say
Speaker 1: you're done? I would I would too, What did your own?
Speaker 6: More?
Speaker 2: And now he's out on bond. He had a Michigan
Speaker 2: man as the judge. Yeah, no, kidding, too bad.
Speaker 1: The guy didn't go to Michigan State to get a
Speaker 1: life in prison in the electric chair.
Speaker 6: It's stupid.
Speaker 1: And so I explained everything that happened and honed it
Speaker 1: and you know, just stupid.
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Speaker 1: own more. Will He abruptly fired this week charge Friday
Speaker 1: with three crimes, including home invasion, well stalking a person
Speaker 1: he dated.
Speaker 2: He spent the last two nights in jail. I bet
Speaker 2: uh and uh.
Speaker 1: Let's see fired for at the school called an inappropriate
Speaker 1: relationship with a staff.
Speaker 2: Member and abortion drugs delivered. It was went to and we.
Speaker 1: Went to the ladies house with a knife. Yeah, broke in.
Speaker 1: So he's out on twenty five thousand dollars bond.
Speaker 2: He's got the ankle monitor on.
Speaker 1: Talk to Mordecai Black Patrick Detratcher about those things. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, if you're a mission, should they
Speaker 1: get the death penalty for this Michigan football?
Speaker 2: What does the weed man say? Where's Tom Weiedman? Can?
Speaker 2: He can't find him? He's under the cover, he's in
Speaker 2: the bunker.
Speaker 1: They got eleven coaches have been disciplined crimes Dave, Dave,
Speaker 1: Yes or no?
Speaker 2: He went to Syracuse, Dave, Were you sure?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: He's not sure? Okay, did you mean yes or no?
Speaker 2: By saying yes, Wait a minute, yes, yes, no, maybe
Speaker 2: yes no? Maybe? What is it? No or yes?
Speaker 1: What kind of shape did Jim Harbaugh leave Michigan. That's
Speaker 1: the only guy that's Scott Free. I know he's in
Speaker 1: LA right now, living on a beach in a motor home.
Speaker 2: Should they give the death penalty? They give the death penalty. Yes,
Speaker 2: they didn't do anything. They've done a lot, but they
Speaker 2: haven't been caught yet. Lear's prime market. That brings our lunch.
Speaker 8: I plan to grow from this, and I'm sincerely saddened
Speaker 8: by the fact that I let some people down and
Speaker 8: didn't do things as well as I could possibly do.
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Speaker 1: is dropping the case of the murderer Elwood Jones. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have on, Joe Dieters tells me, despite the order
Speaker 1: of the Chief Justice Sharon Kennedy, who says to Joe,
Speaker 1: know your role and shut your mouth. According to some
Speaker 1: Joe Dieters will come on Monday to talk about Elwood Jones,
Speaker 1: the prosecutor, and also Mark Petemeyer how he murdered that
Speaker 1: woman wrote there in a blue ash motel and got
Speaker 1: out of it. So are you willing to well, Joe
Speaker 1: Deeters have the guts to come on Justice Joe on Monday.
Speaker 2: You kidney, he'd be on every day if he would.
Speaker 1: What does Sharon Kennedy say, know your role and shut
Speaker 1: your mouth. Oh, she's the Chief Justice. I would say
Speaker 1: that she's telling the calm down Joe. He's like the
Speaker 1: Tony Bender of the Supreme Court or around here. Elwood
Speaker 1: Jones a murder. Tony Bender tells you not to do nothing.
Speaker 1: Judge in Hamliny County gave him an O R bomb
Speaker 1: off death throw.
Speaker 2: Does that go to bed? By the way, have you
Speaker 2: had any abortion? You have a lawyer? What do I know?
Speaker 2: I don't like that. Have you had abortion drugs? You
Speaker 2: refuse to answer the national Have you had abortion drugs?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: Sent to your office? No, like they had football coach
Speaker 2: in Michigan. Hell, have you have you gotten pills?
Speaker 1: I would never have an abortion, By the way, I
Speaker 1: would never pay for an abortion.
Speaker 2: I'd never counsel. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Abortion is killing babies, correct, I'm kind of against that.
Speaker 1: I would say football coach in Michigan. Should Michigan you know,
Speaker 1: I answer the question, should they get the death penalty?
Speaker 1: Should they get rid of Michigan football completely?
Speaker 2: What do you say? Yes?
Speaker 1: Me too, I'd say five years because there's just like
Speaker 1: smu ever since Harball left, seven or eight people have
Speaker 1: gotten in trouble out. Yeah, and that that was part
Speaker 1: of that program. But only one's going to and he's
Speaker 1: and he's in a win of bago on Laguna Luna,
Speaker 1: Laguna Seca beach out there in California near Cape Coral.
Speaker 1: I have a double wine. I like a double wine.
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with a double wife. I said, it's it's now,
Speaker 1: get me out of the stud's report. After one o'clock
Speaker 1: we have a live report from Puerto Rico about Puerto
Speaker 1: Ricans and Venezuelans coming to America.
Speaker 2: We're going to war with them, aren't we. I have
Speaker 2: no idea.
Speaker 1: Willie and I have a beautiful day, but a warning
Speaker 1: winter storm warning for tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Michigan football the death penalty. We leave you with the
Speaker 2: immortal words of the stood report. We've all made out
Speaker 2: with each other? Have you made out with Sarah? Just
Speaker 2: nout at you? Are you sure we've all made out
Speaker 2: with each other?
Speaker 6: Her a liar?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to say that again.
Speaker 1: Yes, there's rumors ablaze, most like really need a spanking?
Speaker 2: You want to spanky?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: She said you have you broken into any lover's homes
Speaker 2: recently with a knife?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I haven't you. Let me think seven hundred W.
Speaker 6: L W.
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Every day I get up,
Speaker 1: there's a new crisis somewhere in the world. This is
Speaker 1: on top of the problems here at home, and news
Speaker 1: nation is following all of it. And Robert Sherman is
Speaker 1: the News Nation foreign correspondent. He's reported from Ukraine, from Israel.
Speaker 1: Now he's in Puerto Rico keeping an eye in Venezuela.
Speaker 1: And I think many Americans have no idea because most
Speaker 1: of us are concerned with their own lives as to
Speaker 1: what's happening in Venezuela. And hopefully it turns out well.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, Robert Sherman, I think you're headquartered right now
Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico keeping an eye eye on to the south,
Speaker 1: the east, on Porter on the Venezuela. And Robert Sherman,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
Speaker 1: can you, in a general way tell the average American
Speaker 1: living in Dubuque, Iowa, what the hell's going on in
Speaker 1: our involvement in Venezuela.
Speaker 2: Can you explain that to the American people?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: First, and four months, you know, I'm sitting outside Roosevelt
Speaker 4: Roads Naval Station, and I could tell you it's very
Speaker 4: active with the way that I'm seeing thirty fives and
Speaker 4: osprey's taking off and landing rather constantly. So I mean
Speaker 4: there's no smoke and mirrors. The US military is here.
Speaker 4: That's for sure. And in terms of why Venezuela, you know,
Speaker 4: the argument that the Trump administration is making is that
Speaker 4: they are, you know, effectively one of the central cogs
Speaker 4: in this whole illegal drug operation that is moving fentanyl
Speaker 4: and other drugs to the United States, and they believe
Speaker 4: that Nicholas Maduro regime plays a central role in all
Speaker 4: of that. So, I mean, we have seen them now
Speaker 4: destroying boats that are you know, off the coast of Venezuela.
Speaker 4: We've now seen them seizing oil tankers to hit Venezuela economically.
Speaker 4: Here in the President has said the door is open,
Speaker 4: you know, for the possibility of this to expand to
Speaker 4: ground operations, to anything of the kind. But he's playing
Speaker 4: his cards close to the vets.
Speaker 2: So we'll see.
Speaker 1: Well, it could be ugly, I can I wish I
Speaker 1: had a crystal ball to see how this turns out. Also,
Speaker 1: the President is concerned about Columbia. We've we've had a
Speaker 1: war on drugs since I don't know forty or fifty,
Speaker 1: but this war might become a real war. So when
Speaker 1: you're at the naval base and you watch what's going on.
Speaker 1: You've been to Ukraine, you've been to Israel, reporting for
Speaker 1: News Nation and my good friend Sean Compton from there.
Speaker 1: But as a reporter, you're looking around, You're thinking something
Speaker 1: big is about to happen. I think maybe it's going
Speaker 1: to be standoff weapons of one type or another. The
Speaker 1: Maduro regime followed up on Chavez, and of course Chavez
Speaker 1: took the one of the richest nations in South America,
Speaker 1: not the richest, and destroyed it. But Dura's doing the
Speaker 1: same thing. Is it your sense that the goal of
Speaker 1: the administration is to take away the lifeline, which is money,
Speaker 1: and because at this point I can't imagine how much
Speaker 1: normal trade happening. It's all about drugs. Do you think
Speaker 1: money is at the heart of this and taking away
Speaker 1: money from the drug trade big.
Speaker 4: Time, big time. I mean you saw that the way
Speaker 4: that they seized this Venezuelan oil tanker. I mean that
Speaker 4: is the lifeline for Venezuela as the distribution of oil.
Speaker 4: And they say that the ship was part of the
Speaker 4: so called shadow fleet. Just a few weeks ago, I
Speaker 4: was in the Baltic Sea as we were tracking the
Speaker 4: shadow fleet that was trying to illegally move oil from
Speaker 4: Russia out to the Atlantic. And they use these ships
Speaker 4: that are you know, massed, you know, pak ownership structures,
Speaker 4: and are flying false flags, you know, like the country
Speaker 4: It might say it's a Marshall Island ship, but it's
Speaker 4: really not. You know, this ship was flying the flag
Speaker 4: of Guyana, and Guyana just came out and said, no way,
Speaker 4: that's not our ship. You know, that was ultimately seized
Speaker 4: by the US, you know, I mean, so there you
Speaker 4: have it right there. I mean, this is the length
Speaker 4: that countries like Venezuela will go in order to get
Speaker 4: around American sanctions on oil, all for the sake of money,
Speaker 4: all for the sake of the economy. So the Trump
Speaker 4: administration is hitting them where it hurts most.
Speaker 2: And that's money, of course.
Speaker 1: And we have a war on drugs, and this is
Speaker 1: the first president that really conducted a war on drugs.
Speaker 1: I can't conceive of the American people supporting a ground
Speaker 1: invasion of Venezuela in which American men and women are
Speaker 1: going to be killed on the battlefields of Cararacas. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine that. That's not the way warfare is conducted today.
Speaker 1: And the goal, of course, is they have the Venezuelan
Speaker 1: government change. And I found something interesting that there was
Speaker 1: a Democrat elected the mayor of Miami for the first
Speaker 1: time in like thirty years. And during one of the
Speaker 1: interviews she only did them on MSNBC, of course, she
Speaker 1: referenced the fact that in date Miami Dade County, there's
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand Venezuelans living in Miami Dade County. So
Speaker 1: that nation of several tens of millions is emptying out
Speaker 1: and they're coming to America. So although drugs may be
Speaker 1: at the heart of this venezon can you imagine one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand Venezuelans living in Miami Dade County because of
Speaker 1: what Madura's doing in Caracas?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean absolutely, you know, I mean you see,
Speaker 4: you know, in the way that that has an impact
Speaker 4: on American politics, you know, and some of those Venezuelans,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean are people you know who you know,
Speaker 4: really resent the ideas of socialism. As a result of that,
Speaker 4: really you know, have embraced you know, more capitalist policies
Speaker 4: and you want to absolutely nothing to do with that,
Speaker 4: you know. But I mean, this is an accusation that
Speaker 4: the Trump administration has made, is that some you know,
Speaker 4: are you know, political prisoners, you know, from Venezuela or
Speaker 4: people that Venezuela does not want in their country and
Speaker 4: are sending them to the US. I mean, I covered
Speaker 4: that US Mexico border for a couple of years and
Speaker 4: you would be amazed. I mean there was one year
Speaker 4: where it was like one hundred and sixty three different
Speaker 4: countries of origin were found down at that border. I mean,
Speaker 4: it is it is really amazing, you know, like the
Speaker 4: magnet effect that was in effect. You know when the
Speaker 4: immigration policies and border enforcement was different under previous administrations.
Speaker 1: It probably elected Trump to the presidency because Americans living
Speaker 1: in the Midwest could not put up with the idea
Speaker 1: of tens of millions flooding into our country costing a
Speaker 1: friggin fortune. And I'm still waiting for maybe so called
Speaker 1: CBS allegedly the Great News magazine sixty minutes to spend
Speaker 1: time in Minnesota to find out how many billions of
Speaker 1: dollars have been looted by the Somalis. But that's a
Speaker 1: different issue. The book has lessons from the front. Let's
Speaker 1: touch on briefly if we can Ukraine. You were there,
Speaker 1: and when I look at the Ukraine, you're on the
Speaker 1: front lines in the Ukraine for News Nation. Talk to
Speaker 1: me about what the peace plan, the twenty eight twenty
Speaker 1: nine point peace plan, which is going nowhere, and Russia
Speaker 1: right now is stuck there like they were stuck in Afghanistan.
Speaker 1: They can't get in, they can't get out, and of
Speaker 1: course I don't think Ukraine can ever win the war
Speaker 1: if Russia wants to win it. What are your observations
Speaker 1: from the front when it comes to Ukraine and the
Speaker 1: ability that we have to effectuate Russian behavior, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 4: I actually had the privilege of spending some time at
Speaker 4: the Ukrainian Presidential Palace with President Zelenski, you know, a
Speaker 4: couple of weeks before all this came down, and I
Speaker 4: think something you know that often gets missed in the
Speaker 4: American circles right now where the lines are. Ukraine currently
Speaker 4: controls some very strategic heights in the don Bas region
Speaker 4: which Russia has not been able to take. So Russia
Speaker 4: wants a deal in which Ukraine just willfully gives those
Speaker 4: up because Russia's military has not shown that they've been
Speaker 4: able to take them. The reason that becomes long term
Speaker 4: problematic for Ukraine is that they believe when President Trump
Speaker 4: leaves office and that force of deterrence, by their eyes,
Speaker 4: leaves office, the door is open for Russia to launch
Speaker 4: a third invasion from a much better strategic position. So
Speaker 4: that's why there's no way that Ukraine can go for
Speaker 4: this deal that is currently on the table. Now it
Speaker 4: might change, you know, if the battle lines are frozen,
Speaker 4: you know, there might be a way in which Ukraine
Speaker 4: will allow Russia to have governance over it. They will
Speaker 4: never give up their claim to that region of Ukraine
Speaker 4: without question. But I mean, that's the big thing here
Speaker 4: is Ukraine is thinking what happens after President Trump leaves office,
Speaker 4: because while they believe that there won't be more advances
Speaker 4: under this administration, there is going to be a forty
Speaker 4: eighth president and nobody knows who it is yet.
Speaker 1: I think maybe Shapings waiting for the same thing with Taiwan.
Speaker 1: Taiwan they do not want Trump in office when they
Speaker 1: invade Taiwan, and I think I think everyone across the
Speaker 1: world is waiting for another Joe Biden to take office
Speaker 1: and things of that character to see what happens. And lastly,
Speaker 1: lessons from the Front. Israel Israel's America's best friend in
Speaker 1: the Middle East. The only functional democracy. I spent about
Speaker 1: ten days there just before the October sixth events took place,
Speaker 1: which was very fortuitous in my part. But what are
Speaker 1: your observations of Middle East peace relative to Gaza? I
Speaker 1: looked at a story that News Nation had also which
Speaker 1: said that Hamas had sequestered away tons of food for
Speaker 1: the children of Gaza in order to make them starve,
Speaker 1: so that the blame would be put on the Jews
Speaker 1: for not feeding the children. The food was just wasting
Speaker 1: away in warehouses. Hamas wanted to use the death of
Speaker 1: children in Gaza as a political pool, political weapon against Israel.
Speaker 2: What's your observations in Israel lessons from.
Speaker 4: The front, you know, I mean, while I was inside
Speaker 4: of Gaza a few weeks ago, we saw firsthand im
Speaker 4: in the links that Hamas will go in order to
Speaker 4: control aid distribution. This is a long standing problem there.
Speaker 4: There are un studies, you know, that go back to
Speaker 4: two thousand and eight that document how Hamas uses aid
Speaker 4: distribution in order to exert control over the population. And
Speaker 4: it seems as though since the ceasefire has taken hold,
Speaker 4: Hamas has been able to get a stronger footing over
Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks now that said. You know,
Speaker 4: when I was in Gaza and speaking with some of
Speaker 4: the Palestinians there, you know, they were saying things that
Speaker 4: that you can imagine they've been at war with Israel,
Speaker 4: and they said that they hated Israel. But many of
Speaker 4: them were also saying, we hate Hamas too. That is
Speaker 4: such a market change because for years people have been
Speaker 4: so afraid in Gaza to speak out against Hamas because
Speaker 4: it leads to dire consequences in almost all cases. So
Speaker 4: you're hearing people speak out against Hamas more, you're hearing
Speaker 4: dissenting voices. I mean, the big thing is is getting
Speaker 4: through this phase two of the deal, and I don't
Speaker 4: see any way in which Hamas goes quietly here. You
Speaker 4: know what I would say, you know, is is that
Speaker 4: the president has this broader vision of you know, what
Speaker 4: he wants, and he wants it in which there's peace
Speaker 4: between Israel, Syria, Saudi Arabia. It all begins, you know
Speaker 4: what happens in the Middle East.
Speaker 1: Robert Sherman. Lastly, I'm looking at two headlines. One says
Speaker 1: Hamas hid tons of infant formula nutritional shakes to smear
Speaker 1: Israel for more than two years, the pro Palestinian crowd,
Speaker 1: including many Democrats, accused Israel of starving people a genocide
Speaker 1: in Gaza. It turns out it was a lie, and
Speaker 1: here's proof that Hamas hid tons of baby formula to
Speaker 1: hurt children and damage Israel. Another headline out of Nigeria.
Speaker 1: Out of terrible parts of the world, Nigeria is just
Speaker 1: one of them. But also what's happening in Western Africa.
Speaker 1: Bodies discovered a suspected oregon harvesting ring in a hotel,
Speaker 1: and the story points out that when in Nigeria, for example,
Speaker 1: that when the horrible circumstances are happening against Christians and Catholics,
Speaker 1: which is the attack on Christianity, that the girls become
Speaker 1: forced prostitutes and the older people become organ harvesting rings
Speaker 1: in which there pankrists their kidney are sold in the
Speaker 1: open market. So on one hand, I look at what's
Speaker 1: happening in Venezuela, which is awful. I look at what's
Speaker 1: happening in Israel with Hamas killing its own people and
Speaker 1: pinning it on the Jews. I look at what's about
Speaker 1: to happen in Taiwan, and I think about what's happening
Speaker 1: in the Ukraine with the suffering of the Ukrainian people.
Speaker 1: Six thousand Russian soldiers are killed or mortally wounded every
Speaker 1: every week. Same thing happening in the Ukraine. And I
Speaker 1: ask you this question, Robert Sherman, what is the shape
Speaker 1: of the world today?
Speaker 4: See you know that?
Speaker 6: I mean?
Speaker 4: That really brings me to the conclusion of my book.
Speaker 4: You know that is now out and on shelves.
Speaker 6: Is that I mean?
Speaker 4: When I went over to Ukraine and saw war for
Speaker 4: the first time firsthand, I was just a twenty five
Speaker 4: year old kid from Cleveland, Ohio who didn't really know
Speaker 4: much about the world, didn't really have a deep understanding,
Speaker 4: and it opened my eyes to the naivete and the
Speaker 4: threats that exist around the world. Growing up in Cleveland, Ohio,
Speaker 4: I used to walk along the shores of Lake Erie
Speaker 4: and never once in my life did I say I'm
Speaker 4: so grateful I don't see enemy warships on the horizon.
Speaker 4: I now say that now, because the world is such
Speaker 4: a dangerous place and I truly had no idea how
Speaker 4: good we have it in America. These are headlines that
Speaker 4: we are reading around the world. They're not happening in Cleveland, Ohio.
Speaker 4: They're not happening in Youngstown, They're not happening in Toledo. Yes,
Speaker 4: there are complexities in the United States. Yes there are
Speaker 4: problems that need to be addressed in the United States.
Speaker 4: But we're not like the Estonians who spent the summer
Speaker 4: digging anti tank trenches fearing that they could be invaded
Speaker 4: every day. We're not like the Ukrainians who are sleeping
Speaker 4: in metro stations every night, fearing that they're going that
Speaker 4: they might not the sunrise. That's my big message is
Speaker 4: that come back. I don't have any answers to the world.
Speaker 4: I am no geopolitical expert, but I do feel confident
Speaker 4: and we should all be grateful that we are Americans.
Speaker 4: To the front of our passports, says the United States
Speaker 4: of America, because we just have it so good and
Speaker 4: there are so many dangers out there that don't impact
Speaker 4: our communities every day.
Speaker 1: Let's conclude it there, Robert Sherman, the book would be
Speaker 1: great for Christmas Lessons from the Front. The biggest problem
Speaker 1: in Cleveland is the Browns, and of course the Guardians.
Speaker 1: The biggest problem in Cincinnati is Cincinnati and Joe Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow's unhappy with making sixty million dollars a year, He
Speaker 1: may say, the heck with it. I don't want to
Speaker 1: make sixty million dollars. I'm unhappy. How many people get
Speaker 1: up every day to go to work who are unhappy?
Speaker 1: How many people have to support themselves and their family
Speaker 1: doing drudgery jobs they'd rather not do. And Joe Burrows
Speaker 1: angry about making sixty million dollars a year. And if
Speaker 1: I'm not having fun, damn it, I'm quitting. What would
Speaker 1: are Ukrainian Estonian? Joe Burrow Man, I'm making sixty.
Speaker 2: Mil and I'm just unhappy. I'm not having fun.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, I'm not What would do Ukrainian say about that,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow, are you listening?
Speaker 2: Pay attention?
Speaker 4: They would say, what a great problem to have, which
Speaker 4: we could trade places with you all in Ohio.
Speaker 1: Lessons from the Front to Robert Sherman, You're a great
Speaker 1: American and thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And I'd like to do it again. And Robert, thank
Speaker 1: you very much. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. God bless America. Let's continue with more. I
Speaker 1: watched again, Joe Burrow's news conference on Tuesday, and I
Speaker 1: saw a twenty eight about to become a twenty nine
Speaker 1: year old, unhappy, not having fun. Bill Cunningham, News Radio
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Speaker 6: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: And Barry Larkin, the great Reds player, says he knows nothing,
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Speaker 2: Is he going to play?
Speaker 6: Who?
Speaker 1: Dave Lapham right? He probably played played better than anybody
Speaker 1: on that line. He's good at freezer bles. Tri State
Speaker 1: Chevy Dealers post game show, presented by Arnel Carriers will
Speaker 1: be live Buffalo Wings and Rings on US forty two
Speaker 1: in Union, Kentucky. The Wings will be hot special guests
Speaker 1: the one and only Bruce Kazerski.
Speaker 2: He could play offensive line? Was he number sixty four?
Speaker 6: Is that correct?
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think you're right. We check
Speaker 2: that out.
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy going to be awarded tomorrow night in New
Speaker 1: York City. Well among the finalist Ohio States Julian Sayan
Speaker 1: and also Indiana's Fernando Mendoza.
Speaker 2: I'm going with Fernando Tatis.
Speaker 1: I think so because he's won the Walter Camp Award,
Speaker 1: the AP Player of the Year and all that. If
Speaker 1: you win all that, you're probably gonna be winn the
Speaker 1: Heisman and he plays for the Podres, doesn't he? Yeh
Speaker 1: rides update single game tickets for red Spring training home games.
Speaker 1: This will make You Warm on sale right now at
Speaker 1: reds dot com Slash Spring. The Cactus League opener right
Speaker 1: now is set for February twenty first against those Guardians,
Speaker 1: a good to year ballpark. Unless I got a telephone
Speaker 1: call in a message from Justice showed Eaters, you might
Speaker 1: recall it. I'm an admant life. He was a prosecutor.
Speaker 1: He wonder what I remember that, But if they believe
Speaker 1: the coming, that was a long time ago. He wants
Speaker 1: to come in next week to talk about the Elwood
Speaker 1: Jones matter. When that guy murdered Rhoda and Blue Ash
Speaker 1: and these seeking dispensation from the Chief Justice Sharon Kennedy.
Speaker 2: Why does she come in with him? She can't.
Speaker 1: They we'll have royalty here. Remember what Sharon tells Joe,
Speaker 1: know your role and shut your mouth. North Carolina offensive
Speaker 1: coordator Freddie Kitchens and special teams coordator Mike Peiffer out
Speaker 1: at North Carolina after that four and eight season with Belichick.
Speaker 2: What does Shordan Hutchins say?
Speaker 1: North Carolina's offense was one of the worst in the
Speaker 1: country Raking ranking one hundred and nineteenth in points per
Speaker 1: game in one hundred and twenty ninth in total offense.
Speaker 2: Rocky Boyman says he's not going to coach next year.
Speaker 2: How to come here?
Speaker 1: According to Countie Pillage, she is unsure that Edward Jones,
Speaker 1: murdered Rhoda, Joe Dieters and Mark Petemeyer, who tried the
Speaker 1: case itself thirty years ago, will be here sitting there
Speaker 1: someday next week to refute the charges of Countie Pillage.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers star defensive lineman TJ. Watt underwent surgery today
Speaker 1: to repair a partially collapse lung suffered yesterday in practice.
Speaker 1: He's unlikely to play Monday night against the Miami dolphinscording
Speaker 1: a Rocky Boyman, if the Steelers lose three of their
Speaker 1: next four and the Bengalis win the next four.
Speaker 2: If that had'll make number nine very happy.
Speaker 1: Well, if you were making sixty million dollars a year,
Speaker 1: would you be unhappy? Would you be having any fun
Speaker 1: at all?
Speaker 2: You have no fun, do you?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 2: I tell you one thing.
Speaker 1: Right now, they're saying that he's probably going to be
Speaker 1: likely get traded to the Minnesota Vikings. What I don't
Speaker 1: know who that ESPN said that today he's one of
Speaker 1: the likely candidates if he's traded to the Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. They had like five teams listed. He's gonna
Speaker 1: get traded.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I gonna get rid of No,
Speaker 2: not trading him. I'm just saying ESPN saying that, not me.
Speaker 1: They don't know what they're talking about. Y Rocky Boyman
Speaker 1: knows what he's talking about. Say get me out of
Speaker 1: the Student's Report. All my investigation, all week and long
Speaker 1: will continue of the relationship between Jordan Hudson and Sharon.
Speaker 2: Moore, will he and houtter of a snowy weekend upon us.
Speaker 1: Everybody stay safe and warm out there and watch the roads,
Speaker 1: especially tomorrow with the winter storm warning.
Speaker 2: We leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report,
Speaker 2: like I'm too.
Speaker 9: Old to really Yeah, you'll be like this time next year,
Speaker 9: Willy will be like, please.
Speaker 2: Don't even look my way, not that you're my age.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 9: When Willy stops checking you out, that's when you know
Speaker 9: it's over. I still need him to be a PERV
Speaker 9: with me. I need for myself.
Speaker 2: Lily is a PERV with you. I've seen it first. Fine,
Speaker 2: I'm like coming up in a few minutes here. Well, well, Sarah.
Speaker 2: If I were younger, I would I would gladly engage
Speaker 2: in coitus with you. What do you like to engage
Speaker 2: in coitus? But as soon as a dirty coal dir
Speaker 2: talk dirty to me, will say coitus again, coitus. I
Speaker 2: enjoyed coitus, but once that's cos I know.
Speaker 9: But I think I did hit a point where I'm like,
Speaker 9: oh my god. Dudes in like their sixties and seventies
Speaker 9: are like, no, she's way too old.
Speaker 2: You're too old, you've aged out.
Speaker 9: Oh my god, eighties, nineties one death bad.
Speaker 2: I can't see make it in the well that
Speaker 1: I know nothing, Yeah, I know nothing butter knives and
Speaker 1: a pair of scissors on seven hundred W l W