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Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the great American, of course. Right now the

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Speaker 1: What you're going to skyrocket and they're going to be

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Speaker 1: best part, Obama said would be that premiums will go

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Speaker 1: It didn't turn out that way, John, and you and

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Speaker 1: I now is a fine American, Beth Kaiser. She's the

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Speaker 2: And first of all, why are you doing this?

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Speaker 1: Because most of the time insurance company executives hide under

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Speaker 2: Why are you doing this?

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Speaker 3: Well, Bill, I'm proud to be with you in Ohio today,

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Speaker 3: and I mean the reason we're doing this is at Anthem,

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Speaker 1: It's a big question. Why is it unaffordable? Why are

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Speaker 2: Why is that?

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Speaker 3: Well, I said, there's a lot of factors in there,

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Speaker 3: We have escalating drug prices, we have provider consolidation, we

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Speaker 3: that you mentioned that also can draw that can increase costs.

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Speaker 1: Are you in the business of providing good healthcare to

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Speaker 3: We are in the business of trying to keep Ohioans healthy.

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Speaker 1: Are you involved with the Obamacare subsidies? Is that part

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Speaker 3: We're involved in conversations at the local level and at

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Speaker 3: And so you say, well, what will that do if

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's where Bill, I mean, we all

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Speaker 1: As far as the Medicare for All, which was the

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Speaker 3: Well, i'd the privilege bill of working in Europe and

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Speaker 5: And the healthcare, the quality of healthcare that we get delivered.

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Speaker 5: Exactly what you were.

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Speaker 5: Inside their system.

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Speaker 3: So each system, as I've seen, has its own challenges,

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Speaker 1: So you're saying, am I right to say that if

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Speaker 1: Same thing for any person living that has insurance in Ohio.

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Speaker 1: But if you're in the other systems indicate that the

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Speaker 3: That's something that we've got to talk more about. I

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Speaker 1: Beth Kaiser, there's three aspects of a person. I like

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: There's three aspects of a person's being. It's how you

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Speaker 1: We don't view insurance companies in a positive way. In fact,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that's the reason I think it's important for

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Speaker 5: Which is unaffordable healthcare. Are you surprised we won't have access?

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Speaker 3: So, I would say, what's important to us is to

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Speaker 5: Backed up right.

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Speaker 3: We want to have an offer amp that allows those

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Speaker 2: Do you have any questions for me?

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Bill, God bless me.

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Speaker 2: They want to do both.

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Speaker 1: That is to make money, which is why thirty to

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Speaker 1: When Chuck Schuman, the Democrats say simply supply three more

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Speaker 1: government the ability of determining who gets operations, who doesn't,

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Speaker 1: who can see a doctor who doesn't. When I ask

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Speaker 1: Beth Kaiser, isn't it true that of twenty to thirty

447
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Speaker 1: million legals use the healthcare system and pay nothing for it.

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Speaker 1: That's going to drive up expenses, drive up costs. She

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Speaker 1: didn't answer the question when I said to her that,

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Speaker 1: you know what if we simply extend the Obamacare subsistance

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Speaker 1: and credits for three more years without affecting whatsoever the

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Speaker 1: actual cost of the medical care.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that a bad idea? She couldn't answer the question.

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Speaker 2: That's not.

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Speaker 1: Her goal in life is to return shareholder value, and

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Speaker 1: your goal in life is to get good medical care

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Speaker 1: at a reasonable cost.

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Speaker 2: And the two shall ever meet. So that's where we are.

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Speaker 1: Beth Kaiser, I'm sure as an ice lady, and she

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Speaker 1: had her pat answers for any question I asked, it

461
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Speaker 1: was right there, try it, and she understands that. As

462
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Speaker 1: far as the most despicable persons in America, at the

463
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Speaker 1: bottom of the list are insurance companies, lawyers and use

464
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Speaker 1: carson and politicians. I think the approval rating of the

465
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Speaker 1: Democrats in the Congress is eight percent and approval ratings

466
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Speaker 1: of the Republicans are twelve percent. You can't get ninety

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Speaker 1: percent of people to agree on anything. But we know

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Speaker 1: we don't like medical insurance companies, we don't like lawyers,

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Speaker 1: we don't like used car dealers, and we shure us out.

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Speaker 1: Don't like government officials who will use this opportunity. Never

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Speaker 1: let a crisis go to waste. Just seize more control

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Speaker 1: of the American economy. Long term, that'll be a disaster.

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Speaker 1: But of course, having thirty million people use the medical

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Speaker 1: system and pay nothing into it is going to rise

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Speaker 1: the cost of those who do pay.

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense to you? Now, let's continue. We

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Speaker 2: never stop, We simply continue.

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Speaker 1: But I give Beth Kaiser credit for coming on, and

479
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Speaker 1: she spoke from a perspective of Blue Cross Blue Shield,

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Speaker 1: and the interests of Blue Cross and Blue Shield financially

481
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Speaker 1: are not necessarily the interest of individual Americans who need healthcare.

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Speaker 1: Let's continue, and coming up after one o'clock will be

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Speaker 1: the Great rob Sanders. After two o'clock is Robert Sherman

484
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Speaker 1: of News Nation live from Puerto Rico about Venezuela, all

485
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Speaker 1: on News Radio seven hundred WLWY. Billy Cunningham, the Great America.

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Speaker 1: After two o'clock today will be Robert Sherman reporting live

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Speaker 1: from Puerto Rico about Venezuela. But until then, Hamny County,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Kent County has just talked to Joe Eaters

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Speaker 1: off the air. Kenton County Prosecutor Rob Sanders is joining

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Speaker 1: us now, and Rob first of all, Joe Eaters call

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Speaker 1: it in. I talked to him off the air. Wants

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Speaker 1: to wish you and yours and merry Christmas and the

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Speaker 1: happy New Year. How about that from Justice Joe.

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Speaker 6: That's fantastic, Willie. I haven't talked to Joe in a

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Speaker 6: few days here, but you know, it's it's been nice.

496
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Speaker 6: I've had Joe kind of vanished off the face of

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Speaker 6: the Europe. He did a little while there when he

498
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Speaker 6: first hit the bench, but he's come back around and

499
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Speaker 6: he's given me a shout a few times here. Recently.

500
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Speaker 6: We've had a lot of interest in things going on,

501
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Speaker 6: things in the news. So it's nice to be back

502
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Speaker 6: in his company and catch up with him and laugh

503
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 6: and cry and debate and carry on about all things

504
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 6: news and politics and family and everything else that Joe

505
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Speaker 6: and I talk about. So I'm glad he's catching up

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Speaker 6: with you as well. But by all means, Merry Christmas

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Speaker 6: to the Beaters family.

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Speaker 1: You know we have great breakfasts together. And I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: Justice Joe is Sharon Kennedy, the Chief Justice, tells Joe

510
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Speaker 1: know your role and shut your mouth and up until recently,

511
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Speaker 1: Joe Eaters has known his role in the black robe,

512
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Speaker 1: and he shut his mouth at some point, though he

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Speaker 1: may come out. Is there a justice Rob Sanders down

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Speaker 1: the road.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. Maybe if I get to be as

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Speaker 6: old as Joe is someday, if I live that long, Willie,

517
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Speaker 6: my patience will grow. But right now I have a

518
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Speaker 6: really hard time listening to other lawyers try cases. You know,

519
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Speaker 6: I'm a horrible supervisor when it comes to watching my

520
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Speaker 6: attorneys trycases because I don't like to be in the courtroom.

521
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 6: I get too too cranky and two, I don't know,

522
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 6: nervous isn't really the right word. I just want to

523
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Speaker 6: jump in and do the case myself. So I know

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Speaker 6: I dropped my assistance crazy. Sometimes when I'm in the courtroom,

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Speaker 6: I just don't you know, I have a hard time

526
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Speaker 6: to listen to the defense attorneys do their cases. I

527
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Speaker 6: just wanted to shut up, sit down, let's get this

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Speaker 6: thing moving. So I don't know that I have the

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Speaker 6: patience to ever wear a black robe. I have great

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Speaker 6: respect for the people to do, but I've never been

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Speaker 6: Patience has never been one of my assets. Willie, and

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Speaker 6: I don't know that I've got the temperament to be

533
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Speaker 6: a patient judge like Justice Jill.

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Speaker 1: Well, when you get as old as Joe me, you might.

535
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Speaker 1: But Sharon Kennedy, the chief, sent him a big note

536
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Speaker 1: in black letters, know your role and shut your mouth.

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Speaker 1: And Joe has said, yes.

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Speaker 6: I'm just gonna guess and say, given Joe's beautiful bride

539
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Speaker 6: and her temperament, that's probably not the first woman to

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Speaker 6: tell Joe that.

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he probably come, you know, accustomed to it, and

543
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Speaker 6: so I'm sure he took it in strat Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and we're gonna talk Mario Pain in a moment.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching CNN, MSNBC, Breitbart. I'm watching Fox News and

546
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Speaker 1: I'm watching the hearing for the fired Michigan football coach,

547
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Speaker 1: Sharon Moore, and I'm looking at him, and it's coming

548
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: out now that the University of Michigan knew for months

549
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: that he was stalking a Michigan employee working for him

550
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Speaker 1: as executive director of the head football coach. They knew

551
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Speaker 1: that Page was being victimized by their head football coach.

552
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Speaker 1: And this guy was making five last year, he made

553
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Speaker 1: eight million dollars for bonuses. Sharon more likely to make

554
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Speaker 1: eight million dollars this year. And now he's sitting in

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Speaker 1: a holding cell, having threatened to kill and a commit

556
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Speaker 1: suicide break into the homes of Michigan employees. I can't

557
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Speaker 1: recall someone who's gone from a year ago beating the

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Speaker 1: Buckeyes at Ohio Stadium, taking the place of Harball who

559
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Speaker 1: went on the NFL fame, I guess. And now he's

560
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Speaker 1: sitting in a holding cell with a look in his

561
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Speaker 1: eyes saying, what in the hell is going on around

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Speaker 1: this place? And now the University of Michigan, which has

563
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: ten or eleven assistant coaches, all of which have been disciplined,

564
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Speaker 1: the school's on probation for all the shooting they had

565
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Speaker 1: done in the past. Now they're head football coaches in

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Speaker 1: a white black uniform, sitting in a holding cell, nodding

567
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Speaker 1: his head, having threatened to kill, breaking the homes. And

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Speaker 1: this is the football coach of the University of Michigan.

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Speaker 1: The maze in the blue. What do you think about that?

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Speaker 6: Well, Willly, it's just going to show you how crazy

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Speaker 6: intense the Ohio State Michigan rivalry is. And I'm not

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Speaker 6: a Michigan or an Ohio State fan, Frankly, I think

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Speaker 6: anybody who's not a fan of either one of those

574
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Speaker 6: programs just gets annoyed with the both of them. That's

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Speaker 6: the category I fall into. But if Michigan was truly

576
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Speaker 6: covering this up, yes until after the Ohio State game,

577
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Speaker 6: Yes they didn't have to traction try and betoate. That's

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00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 6: just sick. Oh He's domestic violence is nothing to screw

579
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Speaker 6: around with. And it's you know, it's I hate to

580
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 6: even make jokes in the same segment here about Ohio

581
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 6: State and Michigan that we're going to move into domestic

582
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Speaker 6: violence because the murder tribe and dealing with all week

583
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 6: was filled with domestic violence. And if this coach really

584
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 6: was doing the kind of things he's being accused of now,

585
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Speaker 6: then shame on him and he deserves whatever he gets,

586
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 6: and shame on the University of Michigan. And if that's true,

587
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 6: they ought to end up stroking a big check to

588
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Speaker 6: this lady to compensate her for the hell that this

589
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 6: coach has put her through. That they didn't put a

590
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Speaker 6: stop to or call the police or do whatever they

591
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Speaker 6: had to do because God forbid it mess up their rivalry.

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Speaker 1: Gain day thought they got their high state game coming

593
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: up a couple of days after Thanksgimming, so they had

594
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Speaker 1: to keep the lid on. The AD's got to go.

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Speaker 1: Whoever knew about it's got to go. I guess this

596
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: woman's life hung in the balance, and she's talking the

597
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Speaker 1: crap out of her and had a baby. I think

598
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Speaker 1: he paid for the abortion. So in addition everything he did,

599
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: he killed his own born baby through paying for it.

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Speaker 1: And page is pages in therapy. And Paige was a

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Speaker 1: girlfriend of his wife. He's thirty nine years old with

602
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Speaker 1: three little girls. But the Kelly More is the wife

603
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: been married for ten years of the head football coach

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Speaker 1: you're on, and she is a girlfriend of the paramore.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about that one?

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Speaker 6: Well, Willie to find out that the University of Michigan

607
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 6: really was sandbag and dragging their feet on doing something

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Speaker 6: about criminal behavior on behalf of their football coach just

609
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Speaker 6: so they could get through the Missivalry game. I don't

610
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Speaker 6: think Michigan was ever going to make the playoffs or

611
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Speaker 6: get a bowl game or anything like that. But if

612
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Speaker 6: they really were not going to the police and trying

613
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Speaker 6: to cover this up just so they could beat Ohio State,

614
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Speaker 6: then they ought to suspend the entire dang football team,

615
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Speaker 6: because that's just inexcusable behavior under any circumstance to put

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Speaker 6: a victim of domestic violence through even more violence and

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Speaker 6: more trauma just for a football game. I'm the biggest

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00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 6: football fan. It's anybody that's no joking matter, that's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the DV, I mean, I mean this Michigan

620
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: football out to get the death penalty.

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Speaker 2: The NCAA will yeah, death penalty.

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Speaker 6: Death.

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Speaker 1: Let let's talk about Mario Paine talking about DV. Explain

624
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Speaker 1: what happened. You had a successful outcome. By the way,

625
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: on my birthday, December the eleventh, yesterday, talk to me

626
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: about Mario Paine. Tell the American people about him.

627
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Speaker 6: Well, Willie, Happy birthday, by the way. I'm sorry that

628
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 6: I missed it. I'm sure it was a big show yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Everybody's being a Happy birthday's to you. And I know

630
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Speaker 6: what I told you earlier the week that this Mario

631
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Speaker 6: Payne trial was likely to run through your birthday. So

632
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 6: unfortunately I wasn't available yesterday for the big celebration. But

633
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 6: happy birthday. I celebrated by convicting Mario Paine of murder

634
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 6: and convincing the jury and they agreed that he deserves

635
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 6: a life sentence for the murder of a young lady

636
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 6: named Kiera Lane, who was only twenty five years old

637
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 6: back on January sixth, twenty twenty four, when Mario Pain

638
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,719
Speaker 6: gunned her down. This is a young woman that had

639
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 6: been engaged in a relationship with mister Pain, despite the

640
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 6: fact that he was apparently engaged in multiple relationships with

641
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 6: multiple women had kids with multiple women. But when Kiara

642
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 6: Laine realized that she was just being toyed with by

643
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 6: Mario Pain and he wasn't interested in a long standing

644
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 6: relationship with her being a husband and a father to

645
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 6: their two children like he should have been, she broke

646
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 6: things off. She got a new boyfriend. Well sad thing

647
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 6: is the moment that Miss Lane posted a photo of

648
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 6: herself and this new boyfriend to social media. Mario Pain

649
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 6: apparently lost his mind and started blowing up her phone,

650
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 6: demanding to know where she was, who she was with,

651
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 6: what she was doing. She had to silence her phone

652
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 6: through the night because he had called her so many times,

653
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 6: according to the witnesses a trial. But the next day

654
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 6: he changed his tactics. He called her and said I

655
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Speaker 6: want to visit my kids, and Kiara wasn't the kind

656
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 6: of mother to keep the children away from their father,

657
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Speaker 6: no matter how big of a pain in the backside

658
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 6: he was to her, so she agreed to meet him

659
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 6: in a Kroger. But when they got the Kroger in Latonia,

660
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 6: mister Payne changed his tune and said, no, I want

661
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Speaker 6: to keep the kids overnight. So she said, well, I

662
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 6: didn't pack an overnight bag or a diaper bag for

663
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Speaker 6: the baby. Said we've got to go back to my

664
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Speaker 6: house and get that stuff, and they did, and when

665
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 6: they got back there, he started trying to talk himself inside.

666
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 6: She wouldn't let him inside, and she says, I'm not

667
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 6: interested in this. I've moved on. I've got a new boyfriend.

668
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 6: And when she went to literally close the front door

669
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Speaker 6: of her house and closed the door on their relationship,

670
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Speaker 6: mister Payne produced a three eighty caliber handgun and shot

671
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Speaker 6: her four times at point blank range. This was in

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Speaker 6: front of numerous members of miss Lane's family, all who

673
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Speaker 6: were over at her residence at the time of her killing,

674
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Speaker 6: and he killed her right in front of her little

675
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Speaker 6: sister and with an earshot of a number of different

676
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Speaker 6: family members who were just up the stairs and came

677
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 6: running down to find Caroline taking her last breaths just

678
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Speaker 6: inside the front doorway of her RESI. Mister Payne fled

679
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 6: the scene and Covington police put out. You know, it

680
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 6: was all hands on deck. Every detective in the crime

681
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 6: bureau got called out. They investigated the case. Detective Jim

682
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 6: Lindeman got an arrest warrant for mister Payne and he

683
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 6: was found five days later down in Louisville, Kentucky, and

684
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Speaker 6: police down there arrested him, shipped him back to us.

685
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 6: Took us two years, almost two years to get him

686
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 6: to trial because mister Payne was feigning mental illness and

687
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 6: claimed he wasn't competent to stand trial. But the folks

688
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 6: that do the evaluations for the state did his psychiatric evaluation.

689
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 6: He said, now this guy's the joker. He's just faking.

690
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 6: In fact, he's faking worse than anybody we've ever seen

691
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 6: trying fake mental incompetence to stand trial. So we finally

692
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 6: got him called the trial on Tuesday. Took us three

693
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 6: days to get the trial done. Willie, and we celebrated

694
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 6: your birthday late last night, just after five o'clock with

695
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 6: a life sentence from the jury, and I look forward

696
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Speaker 6: to mister Payne's final sentencing in front of Judge Kathy

697
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Speaker 6: late in February of next year. I anticipate she will

698
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 6: impose the jury sentence and send mister Payne off to

699
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Speaker 6: Eddieville at our state penitentiary for the rest of his life.

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Speaker 1: At least, maybe longer after he's dead, keep him for

701
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: another year or two. I would point out to my left,

702
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: a Michigan man, the judge in the case of Sharon

703
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: Moore posted a allowed him to post upon a twenty

704
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars which he's got in his front right

705
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 1: pocket for home invasion and a whole bunch of other

706
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: felonies along with misdemeanors. But nonetheless, as far as mister

707
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: pain is concerned, and by the way, they've ordered a

708
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: mental evaluation for the head football coach of Michigan. Nonetheless,

709
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with that. So the probability of

710
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: this judge, who's a good judge in Kenton County, Payne's

711
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: going to get the rest of his life in prison

712
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Speaker 1: at least. And how's the rest of how the kid's doing?

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00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 6: Well? The kids are being raised by their grandmother and

714
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 6: by the This is a pretty extended family lots here,

715
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 6: had lots of brothers and sisters, cousins. She is, her

716
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 6: parents are split up. She's got a big family on

717
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 6: both her mom's side and her dances side that are

718
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 6: all pitching in to help raise her. Two babies that

719
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 6: are now only two and four years old, not old

720
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Speaker 6: enough to know what happened to their mother. The older

721
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 6: one I think knows Mommy's in heaven, but that's about it.

722
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Speaker 6: The younger, youngest one is still too small, too tender

723
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 6: of age, to explain things too. But none of these

724
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Speaker 6: kids realized that not only has mommy gone, but she

725
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 6: was murdered and our dad was their killer. It's just

726
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 6: a horrible thing. We talked about this to try. One

727
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 6: of the reasons mister Payne deserves a life sentence is

728
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 6: because he robbed not just care of her life, but

729
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 6: he robbed his own children of their mother. And he's

730
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Speaker 6: going to cause his own children to be raised without

731
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Speaker 6: a father in the home. Because mister Payne will be

732
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Speaker 6: locked in cage for the rest of his life, and

733
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Speaker 6: rightfully so.

734
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Speaker 2: Olet's see what happens down the road and awfully said,

735
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 2: and the head football coach of Michigan could have done

736
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: the same thing as Paints.

737
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 6: Said, in a really bad direction. There everything that I've

738
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 6: read in the media is through about that case. Willy.

739
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Speaker 6: It's a good thing that they caught up to him

740
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 6: when they did.

741
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and murder suicide. You know, many times murder just

742
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: precedes suicide. He could easily have killed Paige, his girlfriend

743
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: who worked for him, and by the way, her income

744
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: doubled in the last year while he was having sex

745
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: with her. And then after a while she said, I

746
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: can't do this anymore. I just can't keep doing this.

747
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: It's hurting you, hurting me. My friend is your wife,

748
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: and I can't keep doing this. And that's when the

749
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: stalking and other crimes committed, and Michigan authorities knew about

750
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: it but wanted a way to after the Ohigh State game.

751
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 6: And so there's another lesson in this story, Willy. It's

752
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 6: don't DoorDash your abortion drugs to your head football coach's office.

753
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 6: You know, if you're going to engage in this kind

754
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 6: of activity, which is bad enough that this coach was doing,

755
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 6: but definitely don't use door dash to get your abortion

756
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 6: drugs delivered to the head football office at the University

757
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 6: of Michigan.

758
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: Unless Jeron Morris transgender, I don't think he had much

759
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: need for abortion drugs. Maybe that was a Maybe that

760
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: was a tip, a little queue right there. Maybe something's

761
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: Of course, the Michigan family knew about it and did

762
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: nothing because of the big game coming up. Well, we

763
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: got to run Rob Sanders once again. Thanks for coming on.

764
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: You've been my most frequent guest this year. You've been

765
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 1: on fourteen times. Joe Dieters held that record for a while,

766
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: but now that he's got a muzzle on him, he

767
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: can't talk. You're the number one guest this year, and

768
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: I think number three things Rob. Number one, your knowledgeable,

769
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: Number two, you have a great radio voice, and number

770
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: three you're accessible. You put those things to three things together, substance,

771
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: voice and accessibility. You're number one in my book.

772
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 6: Well, Willie, it's been an honor and a pleasure. If

773
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 6: I'm not mistaken, I was your very first guest of

774
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 6: twenty twenty five when you came back from vacation from

775
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 6: your break. Yes, and I've got to be I guess

776
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 6: now one of your last ones. So it's been an honor,

777
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 6: a pleasure. Merry Christmas and happy Birthday to you, Bill,

778
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 6: Marry Christmas, to the People's Judge, to Tony Bender, Seg,

779
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 6: Rocky DJ Hodge, all my friends at seven hundred WLW,

780
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,959
Speaker 6: the number one fan of the Bill Cunningham Show, Ross

781
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 6: Fine and everybody. I hope you have a safe, happy

782
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 6: and healthy New Year. And I look forward Willie to

783
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 6: hopefully talking to yes, talking to you on your very

784
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 6: first show, and.

785
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: You will be, you will be.

786
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 6: Let's run it back. We're gonna defend this title two

787
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 6: years in a row of the number one guest on

788
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 6: the Bill Cunningham Show.

789
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 2: You you'll be my first guest in twenty twenty six.

790
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 6: Rob, thank you very much, excellent Willie, have a great day.

791
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: God bless you. Let's continue with more. There's Rob Sanders.

792
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: Let's continue after two o'clock. Today is a report from

793
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico about what's happening in Venezuela and Moore. Bill

794
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: Cunningham News Radio, seven hundred WULW, brot Row.

795
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 2: I'm very serious, ladies and gentlemen.

796
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 7: I hope you don't pass judgment because we don't know

797
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 7: the facts of the case.

798
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: We don't know the whole story.

799
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 7: I'm just glad everyone and this is all right, and there's

800
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 7: no acting that no one is injured, because it could

801
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 7: have been a lot worse. It was very serious issue.

802
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 7: Early tonight, around five o'clock, Bill Cunningham was in an

803
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 7: action involving another vehicle, even though he didn't I'm reading

804
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 7: the news account here, even though he didn't cause the accident.

805
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 7: He was given a field sobriety test and Bill Cunningham

806
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 7: failed that field sobriety test. He was also given a

807
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 7: blood test. No word on the result of that test.

808
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 7: End of statement. Very serious charge, serious accusation. I'm glad

809
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 7: that no one was injured in this thing. No word

810
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 7: comments from Steven R. Adams if that's indeed who was

811
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 7: involved in this thing with representation, But just wanted you

812
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 7: to have that story before the news came out, before

813
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 7: the smear campaigns began. Everyone makes mistakes and I'll just

814
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 7: leave it at that. Our thoughts and prayers though with

815
00:40:52,920 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 7: mister Cunningham.

816
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 2: Hello, quiet, I'm broadcasting the right the remains silent.

817
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: Anything I can we'll be using against me in a

818
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: qrrel By the way, at five o'clock yesterday I was

819
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: on the air, by the way, with the rock and

820
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: with Eddie, one might ask that question, thank you. The

821
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: truth never gets in the way of a story by

822
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: Scott Sloan. Not fore it's not an impediment. Correct the

823
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: two thousand, By the way, Steven R. Adams is dead.

824
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: Yes, God bless him.

825
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: Nonetheless, he was killed tragically by a person who is

826
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: now serving a serious time in state prisoner is warrible.

827
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: You refuse to comment, say no to the po po Well,

828
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: well he was killed, really murdered, I thought by a vehicle.

829
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: But that's the difference. I love Steven R. Adams, loved him.

830
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: You refuse to talk about Michigan football. Should they get

831
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: the death penalty? Yes, the death penalty? Man, who's going

832
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: to give it to him? There's no NCAA, there's no group.

833
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: Well do you think the Big ten's going to say

834
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: you're done? I would I would too, What did your own?

835
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 6: More?

836
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: And now he's out on bond. He had a Michigan

837
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: man as the judge. Yeah, no, kidding, too bad.

838
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: The guy didn't go to Michigan State to get a

839
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: life in prison in the electric chair.

840
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 6: It's stupid.

841
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: And so I explained everything that happened and honed it

842
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: and you know, just stupid.

843
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 2: He's an expert on lap dancing.

844
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm turned will he the stude reporters of proud service,

845
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: every local teme star heating in conditioning dealers tame star quality.

846
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: You could feel in southeastern Indiana called Joe x Stein

847
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: at x Stein Heating and Cooling at eight one, two, nine,

848
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: three to two, twenty twenty six and your coach your

849
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: own more. Will He abruptly fired this week charge Friday

850
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: with three crimes, including home invasion, well stalking a person

851
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: he dated.

852
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: He spent the last two nights in jail. I bet

853
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: uh and uh.

854
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 1: Let's see fired for at the school called an inappropriate

855
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: relationship with a staff.

856
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: Member and abortion drugs delivered. It was went to and we.

857
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: Went to the ladies house with a knife. Yeah, broke in.

858
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 1: So he's out on twenty five thousand dollars bond.

859
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: He's got the ankle monitor on.

860
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: Talk to Mordecai Black Patrick Detratcher about those things. Yeah,

861
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: college basketball, Zavier is going to close out the non

862
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: conference play tonight william against Missouri State at six thirty

863
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. You are sick tomorrow, Cincinnati Bear

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00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: Caps in Georgia. One thirty here on seven hundred WLW

865
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: What doubleheader on ESPN fifteen thirty the home of Tony Pike?

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00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 2: Is he still here?

867
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: One thirty at NKU and Bellerman in Indiana and Kentucky

868
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: at six nine oh no, Miami takes on Eastern Kentucky.

869
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Speaker 2: You're out of your mind.

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00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: Bengals update brought to you my good Spirits, Winding Tobacco

871
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Speaker 1: and Party Town with thirteen locations in Cincinnata.

872
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 2: Or in northern Kentucky. I don't know where they are.

873
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: Thirteen locations there.

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00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: Party Town at Florence opened three hundred sixty five days

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Speaker 1: to serve you.

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Speaker 2: What can you tell me about you?

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Speaker 1: And a certain attractive WBN morning co host Sarah Elise Nothing?

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Speaker 1: Have you had abortion drugs delivered in your office? No?

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Speaker 2: No, you're sure? Yeah? Okay, go ahead. T Higgins out

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Speaker 2: for Sunday than concussion protocol. I think that's what I have.

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Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart is doubtful. What he's not playing again?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: What's he goin? Who picked this out? Twenty twenty seven?

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Speaker 2: Are you serious? He'll come back in twenty twenty seven?

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Speaker 1: Best Bengals coverage Sunday can't Wait begins.

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Speaker 2: It'll be big with starts still not playing.

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Speaker 1: No RNELL Carriers pregame sports talk showvers enter by Cincinnai,

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Speaker 1: Northern Kentucky Toyota Dealers.

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Speaker 2: Live at the Holy Grail. Didn't he hold off his one?

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Speaker 1: He wanted the language right in this country, so made

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Speaker 1: millions more right.

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Speaker 2: And he can't play.

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Speaker 1: You better bundle up Sunday because the highest twelve eh

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Speaker 1: worst day of lapping for the Freezer Bowl tri State

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Speaker 1: Chevy Dealer's post game Show presented by RNL Carriers. After

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Speaker 1: the game, Can't Wait, Buffalo Wings and Rings on US

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Speaker 1: forty two in Union, Kentucky. The special guest will be

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Speaker 1: Bruce Kazerski Heisman Trophy. It's gonna be awarded tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: About Indiana, Well, I think Fernando Mendoza. Can we call

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Speaker 1: him Fernando Tatis? I love that name. You know they

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Speaker 1: may trade him the quarterback of Indiana. No, the Padres Padres?

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Speaker 1: What if he comes here? Start that rumor? I don't

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Speaker 1: believe it when I see it. Kyle Schwarber back to

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Speaker 1: the field, quarterback Mina coming to Bengals. Is that what

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Speaker 1: you're saying? Yeah, yeah, Fernando Tatis, speaking of the red

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Speaker 1: single game tickets for their spring training home games now

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Speaker 1: on sale can't wait at reds dot com slash Spring.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, if you're a mission, should they

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Speaker 1: get the death penalty for this Michigan football?

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Speaker 2: What does the weed man say? Where's Tom Weiedman? Can?

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Speaker 2: He can't find him? He's under the cover, he's in

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Speaker 2: the bunker.

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Speaker 1: They got eleven coaches have been disciplined crimes Dave, Dave,

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Speaker 1: Yes or no?

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Speaker 2: He went to Syracuse, Dave, Were you sure?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: He's not sure? Okay, did you mean yes or no?

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Speaker 2: By saying yes, Wait a minute, yes, yes, no, maybe

919
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Speaker 2: yes no? Maybe? What is it? No or yes?

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Speaker 1: What kind of shape did Jim Harbaugh leave Michigan. That's

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Speaker 1: the only guy that's Scott Free. I know he's in

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Speaker 1: LA right now, living on a beach in a motor home.

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Speaker 2: Should they give the death penalty? They give the death penalty. Yes,

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Speaker 2: they didn't do anything. They've done a lot, but they

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Speaker 2: haven't been caught yet. Lear's prime market. That brings our lunch.

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Speaker 8: I plan to grow from this, and I'm sincerely saddened

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Speaker 8: by the fact that I let some people down and

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Speaker 8: didn't do things as well as I could possibly do.

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Speaker 1: It's a Lieutenant Governor Deluxe Delhi located in beautiful downtown Milford.

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Speaker 1: Lee's Lears Prime all dot com. Lear's Prime always a

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Speaker 1: cut above. By the way, Hamny County Prosecutor County Pillage

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Speaker 1: is dropping the case of the murderer Elwood Jones. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have on, Joe Dieters tells me, despite the order

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Speaker 1: of the Chief Justice Sharon Kennedy, who says to Joe,

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Speaker 1: know your role and shut your mouth. According to some

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Speaker 1: Joe Dieters will come on Monday to talk about Elwood Jones,

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Speaker 1: the prosecutor, and also Mark Petemeyer how he murdered that

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Speaker 1: woman wrote there in a blue ash motel and got

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Speaker 1: out of it. So are you willing to well, Joe

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Speaker 1: Deeters have the guts to come on Justice Joe on Monday.

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Speaker 2: You kidney, he'd be on every day if he would.

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Speaker 1: What does Sharon Kennedy say, know your role and shut

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Speaker 1: your mouth. Oh, she's the Chief Justice. I would say

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Speaker 1: that she's telling the calm down Joe. He's like the

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Speaker 1: Tony Bender of the Supreme Court or around here. Elwood

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Speaker 1: Jones a murder. Tony Bender tells you not to do nothing.

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Speaker 1: Judge in Hamliny County gave him an O R bomb

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Speaker 1: off death throw.

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Speaker 2: Does that go to bed? By the way, have you

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Speaker 2: had any abortion? You have a lawyer? What do I know?

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Speaker 2: I don't like that. Have you had abortion drugs? You

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Speaker 2: refuse to answer the national Have you had abortion drugs?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: Sent to your office? No, like they had football coach

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Speaker 2: in Michigan. Hell, have you have you gotten pills?

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Speaker 1: I would never have an abortion, By the way, I

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Speaker 1: would never pay for an abortion.

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Speaker 2: I'd never counsel. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Abortion is killing babies, correct, I'm kind of against that.

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Speaker 1: I would say football coach in Michigan. Should Michigan you know,

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Speaker 1: I answer the question, should they get the death penalty?

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Speaker 1: Should they get rid of Michigan football completely?

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Speaker 2: What do you say? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Me too, I'd say five years because there's just like

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Speaker 1: smu ever since Harball left, seven or eight people have

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Speaker 1: gotten in trouble out. Yeah, and that that was part

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Speaker 1: of that program. But only one's going to and he's

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Speaker 1: and he's in a win of bago on Laguna Luna,

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Speaker 1: Laguna Seca beach out there in California near Cape Coral.

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Speaker 1: I have a double wine. I like a double wine.

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Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with a double wife. I said, it's it's now,

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Speaker 1: get me out of the stud's report. After one o'clock

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Speaker 1: we have a live report from Puerto Rico about Puerto

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Speaker 1: Ricans and Venezuelans coming to America.

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Speaker 2: We're going to war with them, aren't we. I have

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Speaker 2: no idea.

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Speaker 1: Willie and I have a beautiful day, but a warning

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Speaker 1: winter storm warning for tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Michigan football the death penalty. We leave you with the

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Speaker 2: immortal words of the stood report. We've all made out

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Speaker 2: with each other? Have you made out with Sarah? Just

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Speaker 2: nout at you? Are you sure we've all made out

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Speaker 2: with each other?

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Speaker 6: Her a liar?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to say that again.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there's rumors ablaze, most like really need a spanking?

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Speaker 2: You want to spanky?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: She said you have you broken into any lover's homes

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Speaker 2: recently with a knife?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: I haven't you. Let me think seven hundred W.

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Speaker 6: L W.

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Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Every day I get up,

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Speaker 1: there's a new crisis somewhere in the world. This is

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Speaker 1: on top of the problems here at home, and news

997
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Speaker 1: nation is following all of it. And Robert Sherman is

998
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Speaker 1: the News Nation foreign correspondent. He's reported from Ukraine, from Israel.

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Speaker 1: Now he's in Puerto Rico keeping an eye in Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: And I think many Americans have no idea because most

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Speaker 1: of us are concerned with their own lives as to

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Speaker 1: what's happening in Venezuela. And hopefully it turns out well.

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Speaker 1: But nonetheless, Robert Sherman, I think you're headquartered right now

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Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico keeping an eye eye on to the south,

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Speaker 1: the east, on Porter on the Venezuela. And Robert Sherman,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,

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Speaker 1: can you, in a general way tell the average American

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Speaker 1: living in Dubuque, Iowa, what the hell's going on in

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Speaker 1: our involvement in Venezuela.

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Speaker 2: Can you explain that to the American people?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: First, and four months, you know, I'm sitting outside Roosevelt

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Speaker 4: Roads Naval Station, and I could tell you it's very

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Speaker 4: active with the way that I'm seeing thirty fives and

1015
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Speaker 4: osprey's taking off and landing rather constantly. So I mean

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Speaker 4: there's no smoke and mirrors. The US military is here.

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Speaker 4: That's for sure. And in terms of why Venezuela, you know,

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Speaker 4: the argument that the Trump administration is making is that

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Speaker 4: they are, you know, effectively one of the central cogs

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Speaker 4: in this whole illegal drug operation that is moving fentanyl

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Speaker 4: and other drugs to the United States, and they believe

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Speaker 4: that Nicholas Maduro regime plays a central role in all

1023
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Speaker 4: of that. So, I mean, we have seen them now

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Speaker 4: destroying boats that are you know, off the coast of Venezuela.

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Speaker 4: We've now seen them seizing oil tankers to hit Venezuela economically.

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Speaker 4: Here in the President has said the door is open,

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Speaker 4: you know, for the possibility of this to expand to

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Speaker 4: ground operations, to anything of the kind. But he's playing

1029
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Speaker 4: his cards close to the vets.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Well, it could be ugly, I can I wish I

1032
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Speaker 1: had a crystal ball to see how this turns out. Also,

1033
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Speaker 1: the President is concerned about Columbia. We've we've had a

1034
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Speaker 1: war on drugs since I don't know forty or fifty,

1035
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Speaker 1: but this war might become a real war. So when

1036
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Speaker 1: you're at the naval base and you watch what's going on.

1037
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Speaker 1: You've been to Ukraine, you've been to Israel, reporting for

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Speaker 1: News Nation and my good friend Sean Compton from there.

1039
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Speaker 1: But as a reporter, you're looking around, You're thinking something

1040
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Speaker 1: big is about to happen. I think maybe it's going

1041
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: to be standoff weapons of one type or another. The

1042
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Speaker 1: Maduro regime followed up on Chavez, and of course Chavez

1043
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Speaker 1: took the one of the richest nations in South America,

1044
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Speaker 1: not the richest, and destroyed it. But Dura's doing the

1045
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Speaker 1: same thing. Is it your sense that the goal of

1046
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Speaker 1: the administration is to take away the lifeline, which is money,

1047
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Speaker 1: and because at this point I can't imagine how much

1048
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: normal trade happening. It's all about drugs. Do you think

1049
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: money is at the heart of this and taking away

1050
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: money from the drug trade big.

1051
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Speaker 4: Time, big time. I mean you saw that the way

1052
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Speaker 4: that they seized this Venezuelan oil tanker. I mean that

1053
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Speaker 4: is the lifeline for Venezuela as the distribution of oil.

1054
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Speaker 4: And they say that the ship was part of the

1055
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Speaker 4: so called shadow fleet. Just a few weeks ago, I

1056
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Speaker 4: was in the Baltic Sea as we were tracking the

1057
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Speaker 4: shadow fleet that was trying to illegally move oil from

1058
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Speaker 4: Russia out to the Atlantic. And they use these ships

1059
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Speaker 4: that are you know, massed, you know, pak ownership structures,

1060
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Speaker 4: and are flying false flags, you know, like the country

1061
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Speaker 4: It might say it's a Marshall Island ship, but it's

1062
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Speaker 4: really not. You know, this ship was flying the flag

1063
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Speaker 4: of Guyana, and Guyana just came out and said, no way,

1064
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Speaker 4: that's not our ship. You know, that was ultimately seized

1065
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Speaker 4: by the US, you know, I mean, so there you

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Speaker 4: have it right there. I mean, this is the length

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Speaker 4: that countries like Venezuela will go in order to get

1068
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Speaker 4: around American sanctions on oil, all for the sake of money,

1069
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Speaker 4: all for the sake of the economy. So the Trump

1070
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Speaker 4: administration is hitting them where it hurts most.

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Speaker 2: And that's money, of course.

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Speaker 1: And we have a war on drugs, and this is

1073
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Speaker 1: the first president that really conducted a war on drugs.

1074
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Speaker 1: I can't conceive of the American people supporting a ground

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Speaker 1: invasion of Venezuela in which American men and women are

1076
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Speaker 1: going to be killed on the battlefields of Cararacas. I

1077
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Speaker 1: can't imagine that. That's not the way warfare is conducted today.

1078
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Speaker 1: And the goal, of course, is they have the Venezuelan

1079
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Speaker 1: government change. And I found something interesting that there was

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Speaker 1: a Democrat elected the mayor of Miami for the first

1081
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Speaker 1: time in like thirty years. And during one of the

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Speaker 1: interviews she only did them on MSNBC, of course, she

1083
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: referenced the fact that in date Miami Dade County, there's

1084
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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand Venezuelans living in Miami Dade County. So

1085
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Speaker 1: that nation of several tens of millions is emptying out

1086
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: and they're coming to America. So although drugs may be

1087
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Speaker 1: at the heart of this venezon can you imagine one

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand Venezuelans living in Miami Dade County because of

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Speaker 1: what Madura's doing in Caracas?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean absolutely, you know, I mean you see,

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Speaker 4: you know, in the way that that has an impact

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Speaker 4: on American politics, you know, and some of those Venezuelans,

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Speaker 4: you know, I mean are people you know who you know,

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Speaker 4: really resent the ideas of socialism. As a result of that,

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Speaker 4: really you know, have embraced you know, more capitalist policies

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Speaker 4: and you want to absolutely nothing to do with that,

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Speaker 4: you know. But I mean, this is an accusation that

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Speaker 4: the Trump administration has made, is that some you know,

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Speaker 4: are you know, political prisoners, you know, from Venezuela or

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Speaker 4: people that Venezuela does not want in their country and

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Speaker 4: are sending them to the US. I mean, I covered

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Speaker 4: that US Mexico border for a couple of years and

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Speaker 4: you would be amazed. I mean there was one year

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Speaker 4: where it was like one hundred and sixty three different

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Speaker 4: countries of origin were found down at that border. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it is it is really amazing, you know, like the

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Speaker 4: magnet effect that was in effect. You know when the

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Speaker 4: immigration policies and border enforcement was different under previous administrations.

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Speaker 1: It probably elected Trump to the presidency because Americans living

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Speaker 1: in the Midwest could not put up with the idea

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Speaker 1: of tens of millions flooding into our country costing a

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Speaker 1: friggin fortune. And I'm still waiting for maybe so called

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00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: CBS allegedly the Great News magazine sixty minutes to spend

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Speaker 1: time in Minnesota to find out how many billions of

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Speaker 1: dollars have been looted by the Somalis. But that's a

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Speaker 1: different issue. The book has lessons from the front. Let's

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Speaker 1: touch on briefly if we can Ukraine. You were there,

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Speaker 1: and when I look at the Ukraine, you're on the

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Speaker 1: front lines in the Ukraine for News Nation. Talk to

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Speaker 1: me about what the peace plan, the twenty eight twenty

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Speaker 1: nine point peace plan, which is going nowhere, and Russia

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Speaker 1: right now is stuck there like they were stuck in Afghanistan.

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Speaker 1: They can't get in, they can't get out, and of

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Speaker 1: course I don't think Ukraine can ever win the war

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Speaker 1: if Russia wants to win it. What are your observations

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Speaker 1: from the front when it comes to Ukraine and the

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Speaker 1: ability that we have to effectuate Russian behavior, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 4: I actually had the privilege of spending some time at

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Speaker 4: the Ukrainian Presidential Palace with President Zelenski, you know, a

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks before all this came down, and I

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00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 4: think something you know that often gets missed in the

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Speaker 4: American circles right now where the lines are. Ukraine currently

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Speaker 4: controls some very strategic heights in the don Bas region

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Speaker 4: which Russia has not been able to take. So Russia

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Speaker 4: wants a deal in which Ukraine just willfully gives those

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Speaker 4: up because Russia's military has not shown that they've been

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Speaker 4: able to take them. The reason that becomes long term

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Speaker 4: problematic for Ukraine is that they believe when President Trump

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Speaker 4: leaves office and that force of deterrence, by their eyes,

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Speaker 4: leaves office, the door is open for Russia to launch

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Speaker 4: a third invasion from a much better strategic position. So

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Speaker 4: that's why there's no way that Ukraine can go for

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Speaker 4: this deal that is currently on the table. Now it

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00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 4: might change, you know, if the battle lines are frozen,

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Speaker 4: you know, there might be a way in which Ukraine

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Speaker 4: will allow Russia to have governance over it. They will

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Speaker 4: never give up their claim to that region of Ukraine

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Speaker 4: without question. But I mean, that's the big thing here

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Speaker 4: is Ukraine is thinking what happens after President Trump leaves office,

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Speaker 4: because while they believe that there won't be more advances

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Speaker 4: under this administration, there is going to be a forty

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Speaker 4: eighth president and nobody knows who it is yet.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe Shapings waiting for the same thing with Taiwan.

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Speaker 1: Taiwan they do not want Trump in office when they

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Speaker 1: invade Taiwan, and I think I think everyone across the

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00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: world is waiting for another Joe Biden to take office

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Speaker 1: and things of that character to see what happens. And lastly,

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Speaker 1: lessons from the Front. Israel Israel's America's best friend in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East. The only functional democracy. I spent about

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Speaker 1: ten days there just before the October sixth events took place,

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Speaker 1: which was very fortuitous in my part. But what are

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Speaker 1: your observations of Middle East peace relative to Gaza? I

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Speaker 1: looked at a story that News Nation had also which

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Speaker 1: said that Hamas had sequestered away tons of food for

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Speaker 1: the children of Gaza in order to make them starve,

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Speaker 1: so that the blame would be put on the Jews

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Speaker 1: for not feeding the children. The food was just wasting

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Speaker 1: away in warehouses. Hamas wanted to use the death of

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Speaker 1: children in Gaza as a political pool, political weapon against Israel.

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Speaker 2: What's your observations in Israel lessons from.

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Speaker 4: The front, you know, I mean, while I was inside

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Speaker 4: of Gaza a few weeks ago, we saw firsthand im

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Speaker 4: in the links that Hamas will go in order to

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Speaker 4: control aid distribution. This is a long standing problem there.

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Speaker 4: There are un studies, you know, that go back to

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Speaker 4: two thousand and eight that document how Hamas uses aid

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Speaker 4: distribution in order to exert control over the population. And

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Speaker 4: it seems as though since the ceasefire has taken hold,

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Speaker 4: Hamas has been able to get a stronger footing over

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Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks now that said. You know,

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Speaker 4: when I was in Gaza and speaking with some of

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Speaker 4: the Palestinians there, you know, they were saying things that

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Speaker 4: that you can imagine they've been at war with Israel,

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Speaker 4: and they said that they hated Israel. But many of

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Speaker 4: them were also saying, we hate Hamas too. That is

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Speaker 4: such a market change because for years people have been

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Speaker 4: so afraid in Gaza to speak out against Hamas because

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Speaker 4: it leads to dire consequences in almost all cases. So

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Speaker 4: you're hearing people speak out against Hamas more, you're hearing

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Speaker 4: dissenting voices. I mean, the big thing is is getting

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Speaker 4: through this phase two of the deal, and I don't

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Speaker 4: see any way in which Hamas goes quietly here. You

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Speaker 4: know what I would say, you know, is is that

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Speaker 4: the president has this broader vision of you know, what

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Speaker 4: he wants, and he wants it in which there's peace

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Speaker 4: between Israel, Syria, Saudi Arabia. It all begins, you know

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Speaker 4: what happens in the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: Robert Sherman. Lastly, I'm looking at two headlines. One says

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Speaker 1: Hamas hid tons of infant formula nutritional shakes to smear

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Speaker 1: Israel for more than two years, the pro Palestinian crowd,

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Speaker 1: including many Democrats, accused Israel of starving people a genocide

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Speaker 1: in Gaza. It turns out it was a lie, and

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Speaker 1: here's proof that Hamas hid tons of baby formula to

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Speaker 1: hurt children and damage Israel. Another headline out of Nigeria.

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Speaker 1: Out of terrible parts of the world, Nigeria is just

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Speaker 1: one of them. But also what's happening in Western Africa.

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Speaker 1: Bodies discovered a suspected oregon harvesting ring in a hotel,

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Speaker 1: and the story points out that when in Nigeria, for example,

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Speaker 1: that when the horrible circumstances are happening against Christians and Catholics,

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Speaker 1: which is the attack on Christianity, that the girls become

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Speaker 1: forced prostitutes and the older people become organ harvesting rings

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Speaker 1: in which there pankrists their kidney are sold in the

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Speaker 1: open market. So on one hand, I look at what's

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Speaker 1: happening in Venezuela, which is awful. I look at what's

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Speaker 1: happening in Israel with Hamas killing its own people and

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Speaker 1: pinning it on the Jews. I look at what's about

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Speaker 1: to happen in Taiwan, and I think about what's happening

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01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: in the Ukraine with the suffering of the Ukrainian people.

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Speaker 1: Six thousand Russian soldiers are killed or mortally wounded every

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Speaker 1: every week. Same thing happening in the Ukraine. And I

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Speaker 1: ask you this question, Robert Sherman, what is the shape

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Speaker 1: of the world today?

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Speaker 4: See you know that?

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Speaker 6: I mean?

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Speaker 4: That really brings me to the conclusion of my book.

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Speaker 4: You know that is now out and on shelves.

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Speaker 6: Is that I mean?

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Speaker 4: When I went over to Ukraine and saw war for

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Speaker 4: the first time firsthand, I was just a twenty five

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01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 4: year old kid from Cleveland, Ohio who didn't really know

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Speaker 4: much about the world, didn't really have a deep understanding,

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Speaker 4: and it opened my eyes to the naivete and the

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01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 4: threats that exist around the world. Growing up in Cleveland, Ohio,

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Speaker 4: I used to walk along the shores of Lake Erie

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01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 4: and never once in my life did I say I'm

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Speaker 4: so grateful I don't see enemy warships on the horizon.

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01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 4: I now say that now, because the world is such

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01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 4: a dangerous place and I truly had no idea how

1240
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 4: good we have it in America. These are headlines that

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01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 4: we are reading around the world. They're not happening in Cleveland, Ohio.

1242
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 4: They're not happening in Youngstown, They're not happening in Toledo. Yes,

1243
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 4: there are complexities in the United States. Yes there are

1244
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 4: problems that need to be addressed in the United States.

1245
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 4: But we're not like the Estonians who spent the summer

1246
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 4: digging anti tank trenches fearing that they could be invaded

1247
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 4: every day. We're not like the Ukrainians who are sleeping

1248
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 4: in metro stations every night, fearing that they're going that

1249
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 4: they might not the sunrise. That's my big message is

1250
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,919
Speaker 4: that come back. I don't have any answers to the world.

1251
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 4: I am no geopolitical expert, but I do feel confident

1252
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 4: and we should all be grateful that we are Americans.

1253
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 4: To the front of our passports, says the United States

1254
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 4: of America, because we just have it so good and

1255
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 4: there are so many dangers out there that don't impact

1256
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 4: our communities every day.

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Speaker 1: Let's conclude it there, Robert Sherman, the book would be

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01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: great for Christmas Lessons from the Front. The biggest problem

1259
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: in Cleveland is the Browns, and of course the Guardians.

1260
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: The biggest problem in Cincinnati is Cincinnati and Joe Joe

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01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: Burrow's unhappy with making sixty million dollars a year, He

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01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 1: may say, the heck with it. I don't want to

1263
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: make sixty million dollars. I'm unhappy. How many people get

1264
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: up every day to go to work who are unhappy?

1265
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: How many people have to support themselves and their family

1266
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: doing drudgery jobs they'd rather not do. And Joe Burrows

1267
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: angry about making sixty million dollars a year. And if

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01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm not having fun, damn it, I'm quitting. What would

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Speaker 1: are Ukrainian Estonian? Joe Burrow Man, I'm making sixty.

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Speaker 2: Mil and I'm just unhappy. I'm not having fun.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, I'm not What would do Ukrainian say about that,

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow, are you listening?

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01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 2: Pay attention?

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Speaker 4: They would say, what a great problem to have, which

1275
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 4: we could trade places with you all in Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Lessons from the Front to Robert Sherman, You're a great

1277
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Speaker 1: American and thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

1278
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: And I'd like to do it again. And Robert, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. Thank you so much for having me.

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01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. God bless America. Let's continue with more. I

1281
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: watched again, Joe Burrow's news conference on Tuesday, and I

1282
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: saw a twenty eight about to become a twenty nine

1283
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: year old, unhappy, not having fun. Bill Cunningham, News Radio

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Speaker 1: seven hundreds.

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Speaker 2: Wow. The person arrested is William Cunningham.

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Speaker 6: He'll be arraigned in court tomorrow. Oh hello, hello.

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Speaker 2: Byet and I'm broadcasting.

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01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 6: Guy.

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01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: The person arrested is William Cunningham. Will be arraigned in

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01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: court tomorrow. What do you do now?

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Speaker 1: Can't say? Jeez, that's Brian Colembs. That's got to be

1292
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: that AI stuff, isn't it. Yes, because I've done nothing wrong.

1293
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: I've retired undefeated, untied, unscored on let's know that. Yeah,

1294
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: we have more allegations about your own more boy and

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01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: Paige a shiver?

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Speaker 2: Now is he is he out? He's out?

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Speaker 1: He's five thousand dollars. But the most important part, you

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01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: know how valuable of those ankle bracelets are?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they keep everything. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So the Michigan man who's on the bench gave Sharon

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Speaker 1: more twenty five thousand dollars bond.

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Speaker 2: He's gotten his front and right pocket. So then that

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Speaker 2: monitor is monitored by somebody.

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Speaker 1: They can tell that you immediately just talk to Patrick

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Speaker 1: Heringer's widow about that.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's a different issue. But I want to give

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Speaker 1: you more of the facts. Okay, you care about facts

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01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: or just your opinion? That's what this show is all about. More,

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Speaker 1: the head football coach in Michigan, allegedly, according to barged

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Speaker 1: into his lover's residence. Yeah, grabbed a butter knife and

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Speaker 1: a pair of kitchen scissors, then began threatening his own life.

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Speaker 2: I will bleed out in front of you. What a

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Speaker 2: butter knife? Correct? I've got to dig deep on that one.

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Speaker 1: According to prosecutors, More allegedly told the staffer Paige Shiver,

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Speaker 1: quote my blood is on your hands and quote you

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Speaker 1: ruined my life. Unquote, He went after her bingo when

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Speaker 1: he accused her of quote my blood is on your hands.

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Speaker 1: Quote you ruined my life. Prosecutors also claim this afternoon

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Speaker 1: that More, the head football coach of Michigan, terrorized the

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Speaker 1: staffer that they believed him to be a risk at

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Speaker 1: public safety and requested a high bond. The Michigan Man,

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Speaker 1: good friend of Tom Weedman, so I'm told, gave More

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Speaker 1: a bond of twenty five thousand dollars with conditions and

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Speaker 1: included regular mental health evaluations. You got to be crazy

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Speaker 1: if you go to Michigan anyway, being fitted with his

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Speaker 1: GPS tracking device, no contact of any kind with the victim,

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Speaker 1: and remaining in the state of Michigan. We don't want

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Speaker 1: him in Ohio. No worry about that. They'll go to Canada.

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Speaker 1: And abortion pills are delivered to Moore's executive assistant, who,

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Speaker 1: by the way, was paid shivers. But it was delivered

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Speaker 1: to Sharon Moore, who gave the abortion pills to the lover, who,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is not a friend her of his wife.

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01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: And then last night they were going to fire the ad.

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01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: Now apparently they've they've they've changed their mind and he's

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01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: still on the job. What yeah say that again? The

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01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: ad was like let go. Supposedly let go last night,

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01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: but then this morning I looked at it and he's like, well,

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01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: he's still keeping his job. According to him, many a

1340
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: mess up there. Well, should Michigan football get the death penalty?

1341
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: Todd Waite them all up is still hiding right now,

1342
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Speaker 1: whether they're like number two in the nation in basketball.

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01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 2: And Barry Larkin, the great Reds player, says he knows nothing,

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01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 2: but he's a Michigan man too. Well, that's true.

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01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: Shouldn't Michigan Michigan get the death penalty? Did something and

1346
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: then give something to Jim Harbaugh. He's the one who

1347
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: started all this. He got all the coaches, inter sanctions,

1348
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: he got he got the guy to videotape other other

1349
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: teams and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Run them out. Now he's in the National Football League.

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01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 2: The Michigan alumni say, next, go after Ohio State. What

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01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 2: I said, what Irvin Meyer's gone? He didn't, right? Does

1353
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 2: Ryan Day do lap dances anymore?

1354
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: I don't think so. He just goes out and win,

1355
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: well except for Indiana. But how about maybe they'll play

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01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 1: him again? Could Ryan Day coach Michigan? No way, are

1357
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: you kidding? Bill Belichick coach Michigan, John Gruden coach now Michigan.

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01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that, but I get well,

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Speaker 2: you know what it would be. It would be perfect.

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01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: If it would be perfect if Belichick would go to

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Speaker 1: Michigan with then that would that would Jordan the soap

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Speaker 1: opera Jordan Hudson Right now, what about de boor from Alabam?

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Speaker 2: What I'm worried about is.

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Speaker 1: What about Kerry Combe's Is he still employed know you

1365
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: don't know what did Kerry Combs know and when did

1366
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: he know it?

1367
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 2: I don't think he knew anything. How do you know

1368
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 2: what he knew? I know you do not know.

1369
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 1: Willie the Stuart reporters of prout service of your local

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Speaker 1: street from one Main Gallery at five one three eight, three,

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Speaker 1: one fifty one twenty four spots college basketball Willie Zager

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Speaker 1: and Missouri State Tonight at the Centas Center at six thirty,

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01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. Tomorrow the Cats and the Dogs go

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Speaker 1: out in in Atlanta, Cincinnati and Geojia one thirty Here

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Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. Chud Grassoll be fired as the

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Speaker 1: interim ad at Michigan Yes go Ahead doubleheader ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: The Homo Audie.

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Speaker 1: Elmore, Tom Woman still cannot be in fact, his allegation

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01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: can't find him. Tom Weiedman's Sycamore Township Trust Team Michigan

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01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,640
Speaker 1: Faithful is under a bed somewhere, hiding out, sucking on

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Speaker 1: a passivefire one NKU and Bellerman then six o'clock Indiana

1384
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: takes on Kentucky. What did you know about Kelly Moore's

1385
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: relationship the wife with Paige Shiver?

1386
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: What did you know about that? In Winda? I don't

1387
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 2: care about ann Arbor. I don't care about Michigan.

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01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: I worry about the Ohio State Buckeyes, Apording and Tom

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01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 1: Weedman There next nine and O Miami up against Eastern

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01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: Kentucky and North Florida.

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Speaker 2: Dateon tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: in Northern Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: Let's see.

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Speaker 1: T Higgins out for on Sunday concussion protocol Shamar Stewart

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01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: out doubtful.

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Speaker 2: Can you cut him and recover any money? I don't

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01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 2: think so.

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01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: How about him holding out for more money and more

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01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 1: better language? He didn't play anyway? Probably next year US

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Speaker 1: Bengals covered Sunday nine am with the Arnold Carriers pre

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Speaker 1: game sports talk shovers that have I since it a

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Speaker 1: Northern Kentucky toilet dealers will be live from the Holy

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Speaker 1: Grail brew Mow and Pike kickoff is at one. It's

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Speaker 1: going to be cold Sunday too. I'll col high of

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Speaker 1: twelve degrees. What does Dave Lapham say about that it's

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01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 1: gonna be cold?

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01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 2: Is he going to play?

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Speaker 6: Who?

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01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: Dave Lapham right? He probably played played better than anybody

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Speaker 1: on that line. He's good at freezer bles. Tri State

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Speaker 1: Chevy Dealers post game show, presented by Arnel Carriers will

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Speaker 1: be live Buffalo Wings and Rings on US forty two

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Speaker 1: in Union, Kentucky. The Wings will be hot special guests

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Speaker 1: the one and only Bruce Kazerski.

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Speaker 2: He could play offensive line? Was he number sixty four?

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Speaker 6: Is that correct?

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01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think you're right. We check

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01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 2: that out.

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Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy going to be awarded tomorrow night in New

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01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 1: York City. Well among the finalist Ohio States Julian Sayan

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01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: and also Indiana's Fernando Mendoza.

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01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: I'm going with Fernando Tatis.

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Speaker 1: I think so because he's won the Walter Camp Award,

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01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 1: the AP Player of the Year and all that. If

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01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,560
Speaker 1: you win all that, you're probably gonna be winn the

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01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: Heisman and he plays for the Podres, doesn't he? Yeh

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Speaker 1: rides update single game tickets for red Spring training home games.

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Speaker 1: This will make You Warm on sale right now at

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Speaker 1: reds dot com Slash Spring. The Cactus League opener right

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Speaker 1: now is set for February twenty first against those Guardians,

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Speaker 1: a good to year ballpark. Unless I got a telephone

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01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: call in a message from Justice showed Eaters, you might

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01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,440
Speaker 1: recall it. I'm an admant life. He was a prosecutor.

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01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 1: He wonder what I remember that, But if they believe

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01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: the coming, that was a long time ago. He wants

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01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: to come in next week to talk about the Elwood

1440
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 1: Jones matter. When that guy murdered Rhoda and Blue Ash

1441
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: and these seeking dispensation from the Chief Justice Sharon Kennedy.

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01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 2: Why does she come in with him? She can't.

1443
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 1: They we'll have royalty here. Remember what Sharon tells Joe,

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01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: know your role and shut your mouth. North Carolina offensive

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01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 1: coordator Freddie Kitchens and special teams coordator Mike Peiffer out

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01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: at North Carolina after that four and eight season with Belichick.

1447
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 2: What does Shordan Hutchins say?

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01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: North Carolina's offense was one of the worst in the

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01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 1: country Raking ranking one hundred and nineteenth in points per

1450
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: game in one hundred and twenty ninth in total offense.

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01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 2: Rocky Boyman says he's not going to coach next year.

1452
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 2: How to come here?

1453
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 1: According to Countie Pillage, she is unsure that Edward Jones,

1454
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 1: murdered Rhoda, Joe Dieters and Mark Petemeyer, who tried the

1455
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: case itself thirty years ago, will be here sitting there

1456
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: someday next week to refute the charges of Countie Pillage.

1457
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers star defensive lineman TJ. Watt underwent surgery today

1458
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,799
Speaker 1: to repair a partially collapse lung suffered yesterday in practice.

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01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: He's unlikely to play Monday night against the Miami dolphinscording

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01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 1: a Rocky Boyman, if the Steelers lose three of their

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01:13:55,680 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 1: next four and the Bengalis win the next four.

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01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: If that had'll make number nine very happy.

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01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: Well, if you were making sixty million dollars a year,

1464
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: would you be unhappy? Would you be having any fun

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01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 1: at all?

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01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 2: You have no fun, do you?

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01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 6: Well?

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01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 2: I tell you one thing.

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Speaker 1: Right now, they're saying that he's probably going to be

1470
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: likely get traded to the Minnesota Vikings. What I don't

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Speaker 1: know who that ESPN said that today he's one of

1472
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: the likely candidates if he's traded to the Minnesota Vikings

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01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. They had like five teams listed. He's gonna

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01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 1: get traded.

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01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I gonna get rid of No,

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01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 2: not trading him. I'm just saying ESPN saying that, not me.

1477
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: They don't know what they're talking about. Y Rocky Boyman

1478
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: knows what he's talking about. Say get me out of

1479
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 1: the Student's Report. All my investigation, all week and long

1480
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 1: will continue of the relationship between Jordan Hudson and Sharon.

1481
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 2: Moore, will he and houtter of a snowy weekend upon us.

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01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: Everybody stay safe and warm out there and watch the roads,

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01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: especially tomorrow with the winter storm warning.

1484
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,839
Speaker 2: We leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report,

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01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 2: like I'm too.

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Speaker 9: Old to really Yeah, you'll be like this time next year,

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01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 9: Willy will be like, please.

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01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 2: Don't even look my way, not that you're my age.

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01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 6: I know.

1490
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 9: When Willy stops checking you out, that's when you know

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01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 9: it's over. I still need him to be a PERV

1492
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 9: with me. I need for myself.

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01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 2: Lily is a PERV with you. I've seen it first. Fine,

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01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 2: I'm like coming up in a few minutes here. Well, well, Sarah.

1495
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 2: If I were younger, I would I would gladly engage

1496
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 2: in coitus with you. What do you like to engage

1497
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 2: in coitus? But as soon as a dirty coal dir

1498
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 2: talk dirty to me, will say coitus again, coitus. I

1499
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 2: enjoyed coitus, but once that's cos I know.

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Speaker 9: But I think I did hit a point where I'm like,

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01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 9: oh my god. Dudes in like their sixties and seventies

1502
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 9: are like, no, she's way too old.

1503
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 2: You're too old, you've aged out.

1504
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 9: Oh my god, eighties, nineties one death bad.

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Speaker 2: I can't see make it in the well that

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Speaker 1: I know nothing, Yeah, I know nothing butter knives and

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Speaker 1: a pair of scissors on seven hundred W l W