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Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen Junior Sunday Night,

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Speaker 1: the March twenty second, twenty twenty sixth edition. The world

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Speaker 1: keeps spinning, and so do our heads. Folks. It's been

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Speaker 1: a kind of surreal week this week. Let me just

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Speaker 1: back up. It's day near eighty degrees outside. Opening Day

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Speaker 1: is four days away, and life's good, even though the

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Speaker 1: Reds take the elder day to the I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: call them what I love to call them, the Cleveland Indians.

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Speaker 1: That was the close of spring training for the Reds.

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Speaker 1: They got a couple of exhibition games coming up against

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Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Brewers, and it's an opening day against the

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Speaker 1: White or excuse me, the Red Sox here on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully most of you will be able to take off

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Speaker 1: work and go have a few cold beverages downtown. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: the circus continues this week. We've got well, let me

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Speaker 1: just say this, the GOP base is pissed at John Thune.

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Speaker 1: That's the Senate Majority leader, the guy who replaced another

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Speaker 1: guy that the GOP base was habitually pissed off at

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Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell. They are all fired up over the Save

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Speaker 1: Act it's just a lot of folks want them to

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Speaker 1: blow up the filibuster. Doesn't seem like John Thune's going

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Speaker 1: to do it. And it's the same people holding this up,

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Speaker 1: the John Cornyns, the Lisa Murkowski's, the you know, same

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Speaker 1: cast that's always holding up Republican legislation. Going to talk

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Speaker 1: about that also with Patrick Reagan in the back end,

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Speaker 1: going to talk about that at some point in the show.

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Speaker 1: Also want to talk about it's amazing how in the

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Speaker 1: state of Ohio it feels like we vote for things,

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Speaker 1: whether it be redistricting, whether it be recreational marijuana, and

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Speaker 1: our nanny governor just you know what, I don't care

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Speaker 1: what you voted for. I'm just gonna not do it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what I can to pass laws to

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Speaker 1: keep you from getting what you asked for and demanded

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Speaker 1: on election day. He is messing with the legalization of marijuana.

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Speaker 1: Hasn't repealed it, although I know he does because he's

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Speaker 1: part of that old guard Republican party that just loves

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Speaker 1: to tell people what to do. There's been some changes

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Speaker 1: in the law, some regulations, some of it makes absolutely

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Speaker 1: no sense, and it's just another one of these examples

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Speaker 1: elections for? But the most important news of this week

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Speaker 1: is going to take center stage right now, and it

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Speaker 1: is the Afroman case. I just I have to talk

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Speaker 1: about it because it's obviously it's not serious. It was real,

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Speaker 1: although it seemed like a Saturday Night Live skit. But

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Speaker 1: I have to talk about it because it is without question,

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Speaker 1: the most unintentionally hilarious and at the same time just

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Speaker 1: legally perfect case I've seen in years. Because on the surface,

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Speaker 1: like we just got to call this what it is,

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Speaker 1: this is a joke. That trial was a circus of

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Speaker 1: the three ring variety. You have a place like Adams County, Ohio,

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Speaker 1: a predominantly white, rural, Republican voting area of Appalachia in

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Speaker 1: the state of Ohio. Down here in southern Ohio, you

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Speaker 1: have a guy who's from California, a rapper who became

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Speaker 1: a multi millionaire because he got high. I mean quite literally,

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Speaker 1: he is a pothead who made a song about getting stoned. God,

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Speaker 1: I love this country and made millions of dollars. And

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Speaker 1: to make this even more of a circus, this guy

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Speaker 1: you know, I just want to live in a place

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Speaker 1: like Adams County, Ohio. So that in and of itself

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Speaker 1: home of Afroman. But this is America and it's twenty

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Speaker 1: this sounds like a skit. So Afroman gets his house

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Speaker 1: raided by police like three years ago, the Addams County

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Speaker 1: Well after they break a bunch of stuff, he takes

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Speaker 1: But if you buy suits, you know exactly what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about, just sunglasses, indoors, the whole nine. That's real life.

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Speaker 1: Like that happened this week. It wasn't parody. It was

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Speaker 1: the legal system. And this happens a lot. It just

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Speaker 1: doesn't get the footage. You know, the camera's there, but

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Speaker 1: hysterically like, hysterically funny consequences. And one of those parties

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Speaker 1: in this case never had a chance. So let's start

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Speaker 1: at the beginning here. So about three years ago, the

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Speaker 1: Afro man's house with a search warrt and anytime people

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Speaker 1: hear search warrant, they think, oh, wow, you know, the

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Speaker 1: cops must have something serious. No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: let me say that again. The answer is no, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna ruin that illusion for you real quick. Cause is

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Speaker 1: the standard required to get a warrant, and it's an

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Speaker 1: there's a decent chance something might be in there. Like

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Speaker 1: that's it. That's the bar. So if you clear that,

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Speaker 1: it can be a huge shock I heard Afroman's got drugs,

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Speaker 1: most insane ways, just literally. I've had people showing up

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Speaker 1: So in this case, they get the warrant, they boot up,

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Speaker 1: And you can check this stuff. It's all over YouTube.

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Speaker 1: the breaking down the doors, all of it, that's perfectly legal.

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Speaker 1: But in the real world, the world of social media,

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Speaker 1: asking very normal questions like, Hey, the hell did you

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Speaker 1: Hey man, would it help my situation if I told you,

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Speaker 1: Afroman's basement and his like cocaine trafficking operations. So now

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Speaker 1: for what? And here's the thing. There ain't a dang

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Speaker 1: thing they can do about it. This is peak First Amendment.

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Speaker 1: That's the whole point. That's exactly what the Constitution is

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Speaker 1: but you could. I mean you could almost feel it

423
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Speaker 1: through the screen. I imagine if you were in the room,

424
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: you would go this is where they totally checked out.

425
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: Because the defense argument is so simple, it feels almost unfair.

426
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: If you didn't want to be in the video, you

427
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: didn't have to be in the house, and that's it.

428
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 1: Nobody said you have to kick down his door. Nobody

429
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: said you have to be there. That's it, Like that's

430
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: the knockout punch, folks. And you could feel it in

431
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: the verdict, like this was not some technical legal nuance,

432
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: Like this was a jury looking at this situation. And

433
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure they went through the counts and all of it.

434
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: But early on they probably went like, screw the elements

435
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: of defamation, screw screw the elements of false light, the

436
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: privacy stuff, all of it, Like this is just bull

437
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: crap on its face. You kicked the guy's door in

438
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: with a search hornant for serious allegations, found absolutely nothing,

439
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: broke his stuff, refused to pay for it, and then

440
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: apparently we're just outwardly rude to the guy when he

441
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: asked you to fix it, all like what the hell,

442
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: and now you're suing him, Like no, it was just

443
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: absolutely not. We're not gonna let you raid a guy's house,

444
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: fine nothing and assume him because he made fun of you,

445
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: Like that's We're not doing that, especially here in America.

446
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: And that's really what this case is about, folks. It's

447
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: not just defamation, it's not just false light. It's not

448
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: even really about the search warrant to kick this whole

449
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: thing up. It's about power and the limits of it.

450
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: Because the government has massive power on the front end.

451
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: They can get a warrant, they can kick in your door,

452
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: they can search your home based on an extremely low standard.

453
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: But what they cannot do is control what happens next.

454
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: They cannot control the narrative. They can't silence criticism, they

455
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: can't soothe their way out of embarrassment. When I say

456
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: they can't, I don't mean they shouldn't. I mean it's

457
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: illegal for them to do that. And thank god, the

458
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: jury did that told them that this week. They said

459
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: that loud and clear. You can't. You can justify the raid,

460
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: but you can't control the story after. You don't have

461
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: a right to that. And if the story happens to

462
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: turn into a hilarious music video with a very catchy

463
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: beat and a hook that just doesn't let you go

464
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: and you happen to me in it, that's not a lawsuit.

465
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: That's a consequence. So the reality is this, Folks like,

466
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: it's amazing that this happened in twenty twenty six America.

467
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: It's hilarious and provided a lot of entertainment. But like

468
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff like this, there's a lot of

469
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: lessons underneath it, and one of them is the government

470
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: not only can stop a citizen like Afroman from saying exactly,

471
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: no matter how loudly, no matter how proudly, and no

472
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: matter how some folks say obnoxiously, not only are you

473
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: not allowed to stop him from doing that if you

474
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: sue him for it. Thank god, a jury of his

475
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: peers are going to tell you, guys, now, maybe not

476
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: take a hike, don't kick indoors, and don't become Oudamscoonty

477
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: Sheriff's apartment officers. I don't really know what else to say. Anyway,

478
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: we're up against the break. But coming up at seven

479
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: pm after the news, we're gonna be talking to our

480
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: walking sports almenak sean porter about the NCAA tournament. I

481
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: gotta be honest, it's just starting to seem like top

482
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: seeds are surviving but not dominating, and the myth of

483
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: the Cinderella is evolving, not dead, but now it's like

484
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: upper mid majors instead of fifteen seeds. Man college basketball

485
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: is changing almost as quickly as college football. But anyway,

486
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: we're up against the break. Mike Allen Junior on news

487
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: Radio seven hundred WLW. They were back News Radio seven

488
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: hundred WLW Mike Allen Junior, Sunday night, four days till

489
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: opening day. Folks, you can almost feel it, and that's

490
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: how you know you're getting close to the opening day

491
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: as well, when it's eighty degrees here in Cincinnati, and

492
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: March madness is doing what March madness always does. It's

493
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: lying to you because you look at the bracket and

494
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: you go, oh wow, like the chalk is holding up,

495
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: top seeds are advancing. Everything's normal. No, it's not. These

496
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: games are tight, These teams are vulnerable, and I'm telling

497
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: you right now we are setting up for absolute chaos

498
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: next weekend. And joining me now is my guy, our

499
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: resident college basketball brain and walking sports almanac, And unfortunately

500
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State basketball fan Sean Porter, Sean, what's happening to

501
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: my friend?

502
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: Hey, Mike, how's it going?

503
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: It's going okay?

504
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: Man?

505
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: What's it like seeing all these Big ten teams doing

506
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: all this stuff? And I guess what's the general feeling

507
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: with Buckeye basketball fans?

508
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 2: Man?

509
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: With them staying home this year?

510
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: I mean, when it comes to the Buckeyes, Mike, I mean,

511
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 2: obviously there you know, we're not a basketball school. We

512
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: are at football school. But when it comes to the

513
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: college basketball team, I mean, they missed the tournament the

514
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: last three years, so this year they finally made it.

515
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: They had some big wins against Iowa and Purdue on

516
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: the stretch, which was huge. You know, they had a

517
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: tight battle with TCU in the first game, and unfortunately

518
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: we couldn't come through. And it was sad because you

519
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: know the buck guys ultimately score of Bruce Thoorton. You know,

520
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: he missed the tournament every year until this year, so

521
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: that was his only time in the tournament and the

522
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: last shot he took, you know, was off the backboard.

523
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: No good. So I mean it's sad. It's sad. I mean,

524
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: I I hope that. I mean, the whole team's were

525
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: turning next year besides Bruce Thoorton, so I hope that

526
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: we can build off of that. But yeah, it's you know,

527
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: watching all these big TEA ten teams do well, Mike

528
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 2: and us not do as well is not not fun

529
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 2: to watch it.

530
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna at least it's when I know it's

531
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, being a Reds fan in the NL Central

532
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: there's some years where it's bad, some year where it's terrible.

533
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: I know, you hate hearing this, but that's the Big ten.

534
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: This year was unreal, man, and that that kind of

535
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: brings me to the our next. Our next thing was

536
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: his Purdue. They boy, they're down at half, they come back,

537
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: they win and I guess there's two ways to take

538
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: in this. Man, is this championship DNA or is this

539
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: a warning sign?

540
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: I mean, Mike them, I mean they will. I will

541
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: say they have one of the best point guards in

542
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: college basketball history. I mean, he has the most as

543
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: all time. And I think that, you know, the first

544
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: game they had was Queen's and you know, they quart

545
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: one hundred and four points, which in college basketball is

546
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: impressive no matter who you play. And then obviously with

547
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: this Miami team, this Miami team was very gritty, gutsy,

548
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, I think Purdue

549
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: just looked like a team that was going to cruise

550
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 2: to a victory. I think that. I mean, I have them,

551
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: Mike in my final four. So I mean, I will

552
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: say that I definitely believe in this team. Even with

553
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 2: losing Zach Eddy from last year when he got drafted

554
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 2: by the Memphis Grizzlies, I think that they are still

555
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: very competitive. They really are.

556
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing, Sean, And it kind of

557
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: brings me to my next my next question for you,

558
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: which is you have this sort of like team aspect,

559
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: you know, old school college basketball with Purdue and now

560
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: Duke and I hate saying this, like, they look like

561
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: the most complete team to me, but they don't look

562
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: like a college team. They look like five dudes who

563
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: are going to be in the league in twelve months.

564
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: So I think the bat that's the matchup I want

565
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: to see is Duke and Purdue. In that you got

566
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: this sort of old school team that was built versus

567
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: just diaper dandies and blue chip recruits.

568
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: What do you think, Oh, I mean, Mike, Honestly, Duke

569
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,479
Speaker 2: is very impressive. I mean they they had a very

570
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: very scary run against Sienna in the first game. As

571
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 2: you saw, you know, Sienna was winning for eighty five

572
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: percent of the game and then Duke got it at

573
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: the end. I mean, you know, being in Cleveland, you know,

574
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: we remember having Carlos Buzer here and he was a

575
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: very very good player. And you know, both of his

576
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 2: sons play for Duke, and you know Cameron and Caleb,

577
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: and both of them are going to play in the NBA.

578
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: I completely agree. So I mean when I saw Sienna,

579
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: you know, when I saw Sienna play against Duke the

580
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: way they did, I was like, Okay, maybe Duke has

581
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: a little bit of vulnerability, But I mean do completely

582
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: dominated TCU in the second game. You know, I was

583
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 2: going to be mad as a Buckeye fan, Mike if

584
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: the Buckeyes would have you know, obviously they lost, but

585
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: if Sienna would have won, I would have been like,

586
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: no way the buck Eyes could play Sienna, you know

587
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: what I mean? But Duke. But Duke was able to

588
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: come through in the end.

589
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And that's the thing, Sean, And I guess

590
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: it kind of brings us to the deeper question is

591
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: like what wins in March, you know, deep into March.

592
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: Is it NBA talent like Duke or is it you know,

593
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: grown man basketball twenty three year old's transfers and experience,

594
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: you know.

595
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, I will say, you know, obviously

596
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: with the NIL, it's obviously changed everything regarding having the

597
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: continuity of having like, you know, the same four year

598
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: starters and a college team. I don't know if we'll

599
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: ever I don't know if I'll ever see that again, Mike.

600
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of gone. Yeah, I like thinking

601
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: about it, But you know, when it looks like like

602
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: because I mean, even the boozer you know kids, I think,

603
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 2: but both of them are going to go to the NBA.

604
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: I you know, back in the day, coach k was

605
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: able to keep you know a lot of people that

606
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 2: played for Duke all four years, and that was very

607
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: impressive to me to like see them graduate and even

608
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: go to the NBA. Even Carlos I think, played all

609
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: four years. But yeah, like now it's it's never going

610
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: to be like that again, unfortunately.

611
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I couldn't agree more. Man. I think

612
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: I think that we the impact of nil and all

613
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I feel like it was immediately

614
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: felt in college football because you know, John Calla Perry

615
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: at Kentucky bringing in the number, you know, all the McDonald's,

616
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: all Americans. That's been a part of college basketball for forever,

617
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, We've had one and done

618
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: since god since I guess like the eighties. It feels

619
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: like so, I don't know, I just feel like we're done.

620
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: Maybe with fifteen seeds shocking the world, I think it's

621
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: changed it, maybe not killed it, but it's like even

622
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: the underdog now is loaded with transfers, you know what

623
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's not sacred anymore.

624
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 2: Did you see that might how like the the All

625
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: World Guard Jerry McNamara, you know who you know who

626
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 2: led Siena to that, you know, almost upset up. Duke

627
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: is going to be the Syracuse head coach and I

628
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: just thought that was sorry, Ronigan and made still very old.

629
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because I was like, I remember when mc

630
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: namara one with Carmelo Anthony and Syracuse in two thousand

631
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: and three and like to see him coach like and

632
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: go back to like his alma mater is actually actually

633
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: absolutely crazy. I never expected that, but yeah, I mean, yeah,

634
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: I like, I gotta tell you, I'm sorry about Kentucky.

635
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Speaker 2: I thought that I picked them in the first game,

636
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: but not the second game. Yeah, just you didn't know.

637
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: And that's what's I knew. I couldn't bring up cal

638
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: Perry without you doing it. And here's here's where I'm

639
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: at with Kentucky. Man, It's just it feels like sort

640
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: of the same story with a different coach, and that

641
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: it's they have time. There are moments, you know, ten minute,

642
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: twelve minute entire games sometimes where I say this team

643
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: will beat anybody on any night, and and then there's

644
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: nights where I'm like, who the hell are you? You

645
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean? They had some injuries today that

646
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: I think you know, and they got into foul trouble

647
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, I just

648
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, this just feels like a weird

649
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: tournament in that the number one seeds are winning, but

650
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: they're surviving and you can't you can't decide is that

651
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: is it a championship hallmark for a team to play

652
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: poorly and still and still win in advance or is

653
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 1: that early warning sign? You know what I'm saying. That's

654
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: what I'm kind of stuck between a rock and a

655
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: hard place on it. Just it just feels like a

656
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: weird tournament, you know.

657
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Mike, I mean there's no real Cinderella.

658
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the for the last two seasons,

659
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: no thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, or sixteen seed has won. Yeah,

660
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: you know, and that's really weird because for a while

661
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: it was going like it was it was like that.

662
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: I mean, the Cinderella team right now, Mike is the

663
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 2: Texas Longhorns. The Texas Longhorns have actually won three games

664
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Speaker 2: in this tournament, you know, winning the eleven versus eleven

665
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: game and then they beat BYU And I mean it's

666
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: but I mean, even with the Texas Longhorns. I mean,

667
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: they're not really a Cinderella school if you think about it.

668
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: You know, like they have not won a lot in

669
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: college basketball, but there's still a very very high end

670
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: Division I school.

671
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's just I think we all

672
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: knew sort of it's just going to change college basketball

673
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: in college football forever. But like everything else, you don't

674
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: really know. But let me ask you this, John, as

675
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: far as so we're getting ready for the Sweet sixteen

676
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: to be set, are there any sort of dark horse

677
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: teams did you think are going to make a push

678
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: to the Elite eight in the Final four? Like, are

679
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: any of these these giants going to be slayed at

680
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: some point in the next couple of weeks? What do

681
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: you think?

682
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Speaker 2: I mean, Honestly, Mike, I feel like if there's any

683
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: team that I could pick that like Mike slay one

684
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: of the big giants, I feel like it's Nebraska.

685
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

686
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,479
Speaker 2: You know, this is the best team that they've ever had.

687
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: It's the first time they've won the tournament game and

688
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: the first time obviously they've been the Sweet sixteen. I

689
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: feel like they're like kind of a dark horse team.

690
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: Besides them, it's Texas. I think because Texas has had

691
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: a lot of experience so far on the tournament, playing

692
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: three games as opposed to everyone else playing two. You know,

693
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: I but like, I don't know where it is, Mike.

694
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: I have a feeling that like Duke and these number

695
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: one seeds are going to go down at some point. I,

696
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: you know, I Michigan. You know, obviously as an Ohio

697
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 2: State fan, I can't stay in Michigan being so good.

698
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 2: Especially I will say they are an incredible college basketball

699
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: team because the guy that took over for them, you know,

700
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: Juan Howard was not a good coach. He was not

701
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: good there at all. And then this Dusty May comes in,

702
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: and you know, they go to Sweet sixteen last year

703
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: and now they're in you know, they look like a

704
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: team that you know, like I don't know if you've

705
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 2: seen Mara, that one guy that has yeah yeah six Yeah,

706
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: he's huge. Like, I don't know where they get these

707
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: recruits from. But like, as much as it pains me,

708
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 2: Michigan has a really good shot to win it all. Yeah,

709
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: they really do.

710
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah there, I got to be honest, I feel like

711
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: they're sort of quietly lurking in the background, like Hey,

712
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 1: you know for doing Duke. You keep your eyes open,

713
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like there's.

714
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, fear for us, even Michigan State. I mean with

715
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: Tom Izzough, I mean, oh yeah, I've been coaching forever. Yeah, forever.

716
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you stop and think of how many runs.

717
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: That's That's what I love about March Madness is there's

718
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: all it feels like, not necessarily underdogs, but you know,

719
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: coaches that maybe haven't had the most success in the

720
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: last ten or fifteen years, but started on early. You

721
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: see him again and it's just like it feels like

722
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: that's that's the beauty of this is that some coaches,

723
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: not necessarily teams, but coaches are are sort of uh

724
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: built for this, if that makes sense, don't you agree?

725
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Speaker 4: Oh?

726
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: I agree? I mean, Mike, like I'm watching it right now,

727
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: like Saint John's Kansas with Rick Patino, your boy, you

728
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: know from Kentucky. I mean, if Saint John's can pull

729
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 2: this off Wich, I mean, they're up by six right now,

730
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: it looks like they might have a shot to I

731
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 2: honestly think that at the end of the day, like

732
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: you know, coaching does come come back, you know, to

733
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 2: really really help teams. And like Saint John's has been

734
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: very impressive. I mean the turn around that Patino has

735
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: has been very impressive.

736
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's been really something else Sean, all right,

737
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: so let me ask you this, man. I won't make

738
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: you go through sixteen teams, but who do you got

739
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: in the Elite eight? And who do you got in

740
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: the Final four.

741
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 2: And the final four? Well, so, as I mentioned earlier,

742
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: one of them is going to be Purdue.

743
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I do.

744
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 2: I I and Mike, honestly, I'm gonna say I'm gonna

745
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: go here's another another dark horse team. Illinois is another

746
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: dark horse team. I think that Michigan State's gonna make

747
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 2: the Elite APE but not the final four. And I

748
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: think Duke will make the Elite APE but not the

749
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: final four.

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00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: Wow, so hold on, do you think Duke will get

751
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 1: knocked out before the final four?

752
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I do. I honestly, I think it looks

753
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: like it looks like it would be Michigan State. That's

754
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: how I would be how I would coin it. Yeah,

755
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. Mike with tom is though,

756
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: was such a good coach. Yeah, there's only won one championship,

757
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: but I think that he can before he retires. I

758
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: kind of want to see him win one more. Like

759
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but like I don't hate Michigan

760
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: State like I do with Michigan, so I think that

761
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: they have a really good shot.

762
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, John, It's it's something else, man. Every single year,

763
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: I think we we think we figure this all out,

764
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: and we look at the bracket and we circle the

765
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: favorites and we talk ourselves in the logic, and every

766
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: single year, Man March reminds you that logic does not

767
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: matter whatsoever. This isn't about who's the best team. Yeah,

768
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: It's about who can handle the pressure, right.

769
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean I will say it's a little

770
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 2: as a point mic that we don't have like a

771
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: fifteen or a fourteen or thirteen seed like making a

772
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: Cinderella kind of run. Yeah you know, I mean, you know,

773
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 2: it's almost like, you know, all the top seeds are

774
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: kind of winning to some extent right now. But I

775
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: will say, though I'm learning for the Johnnies, I want

776
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: I want Rick Patino to win for Saint John's a

777
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 2: little bit.

778
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, it'd be a cool redemption story, man,

779
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: because that's the thing. And you ask you you run

780
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: of the mill Kentucky fans say, they're just they don't

781
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: think he should have ever left the Obviously, we know

782
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: that the NBA thing with the Tino was a total disaster,

783
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: and then the fact that he went to Louisville. It

784
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: was just like, my goodness, dude, you really like you

785
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: just really nothing means anything to you other than money, Rick.

786
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: Does right, exactly. Well, you know, I actually didn't think

787
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 2: of you, Mike when I saw that Mission State beat Louisville. Yeah,

788
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: I was like, oh.

789
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, yeah, no, it seems like it's been calm.

790
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: But from what from what you're telling me, Man, it

791
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: looks like next weekend this thing is that's when this

792
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: thing is going to explode.

793
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: Oh big time, big time. Yeah, it will explode big time.

794
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. Hey Sean, thanks a lot, my friend. I

795
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 1: hope you guys got some warmer weather up there in Cleveland.

796
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: When real, quick, man, when do the Guardians open up

797
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: or excuse I want to say the Indians, but I'm trying.

798
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 2: To They actually they actually opened up with the West Coast, Mike.

799
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: They actually have a four game series starting on Thursday

800
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: night in Seattle and then they go to LA and

801
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: play the Soheo Tani Los Angeles Dodgers for three games

802
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 2: and then they come back to the home opener against

803
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: the Central Chicago Cubs.

804
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: Dude, Sean, that's why I love you. I literally just

805
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: asked when they open up, and you just told me

806
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: the three series, what cities are, whether or not they.

807
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: Prepare ahead of time?

808
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Man, All right, Sean, take it easy, my friend.

809
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon, buddy.

810
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, bye.

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Speaker 1: Hi Bro. It's Sean Porter, the Walking Sports Almanac. It's amazing. Like, so,

812
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: I'll tell you guys all this. I literally did not.

813
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 1: I said we'll talk about the tournament and then did

814
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: not give him any other prompt, did not tell him

815
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: any just literally did the whole thing off the top. Anyway. Uh,

816
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: after the seven thirty news, we're when it takes some

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Speaker 1: calls seven four nine, seven thousand winner at the Big One.

818
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Speaker 1: What I want to know is what you guys think

819
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: of the save Ac stuff, the Afroman's circus, what you

820
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: make of that? Did the jury get it right? And

821
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: also this uh sort of thing that's quietly happening in

822
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: Ohio with the recreational marijuana changes. Does your vote even

823
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: matter that that becomes the question when it comes to

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00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: uh to Mike Dwine and Republicans at Columbus anyway, we're

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Speaker 1: up against the break Mike Allen Junior on News Radio

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Speaker 1: the great Bumper music. Gotta love some mouice and change, buddy.

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Speaker 1: So I was, and I'm still gonna get to it

830
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Speaker 1: this h the marijuana changes in the state of Ohio

831
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Speaker 1: when it comes to recreational use, and we'll get to that.

832
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: But I I just saw like a during the break,

833
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: I saw a headline that I was like, Okay, I

834
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Speaker 1: can't just ignore this. And I know everybody loves talking

835
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: about weed, but this is uh uh House Minority leader HAKEM. Jefferies, right,

836
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Speaker 1: And I I really I pick on this guy a lot,

837
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: and it's because he talks in this mon tone. It

838
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like there's any synaps going on in

839
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: his brain. If I'm just gonna be honest, he just

840
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: sounds like he's had a lobotomy, like there's something he's

841
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: got a brain injury. I'm sorry if that's offensive, but

842
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: it just is what it is. He's got the the

843
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 1: personality of a wet towel and the sense of humor

844
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: of a cactus. Anyway, you need to picture this, and

845
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: this is the headline, like this is comical. Jeffries demands

846
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: Trump keep his quote reckless mouth shut. Oo oh wow,

847
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: just like picture this like Hakeem Jeffries right, Like standing

848
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: at a podium, he clears his throat and then with

849
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: the intensity of a guy asking for extra napkins that

850
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: at Chipotle or something, he just goes Donald Trump needs

851
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: to keep his reckless mouth shut. I mean, come on, Like,

852
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: that's not intimidation. That's a strongly worded email, Like, uh,

853
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: that's not a threat, Like that's a strongly worded email

854
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: to hr Like he sounded like he was about to

855
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: see see someone supervisor.

856
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 4: Uh.

857
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: The corporate aggression just reeks. Anyway, let's just let's get

858
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: something straight. And I know that, like, we have many

859
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: wonderful women who listen to the show, but I'm not

860
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: gonna delude myself into believing that the majority, it's not

861
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: the majority of men listen to this show like that.

862
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: That's just reality. It's mostly men listening out there, and

863
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 1: a lot of US men know a lot of stuff

864
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: about toughness, and it's not just something you just flip

865
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: a switch on, Like you don't spend years sounding like

866
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 1: a policy memo and then one day decide like tonight

867
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm to be DMX and start like barking into the

868
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: microphone like that. That's not how this works, Hakim Jefferies,

869
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 1: and I really do mean this, Like, outside of Kamala

870
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: Harris is the most scripted, focused, group oriented, consultant built

871
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: politician imaginable. And that's why when Americans see him trying

872
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: to do the telephone tough guy act, like we just

873
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: laugh at it. It's why Hakim Jeffries can say tough

874
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: guy stuff and we laugh at him. And somebody like

875
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: Donald Trump or Dan Crinshaw or someone else like says

876
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: something tough and you're like, oh wow, I kind of

877
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: believe him. Every word he says normally sounds like moving forward,

878
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: we must engage in meaningful dialogue. And suddenly you're like

879
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: keep your mouth shut, like come on, no, Like that's

880
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: like you think your CPA is about to kick down

881
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: a door and start a bar fight, Like give me

882
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: a break. It's just amazing. And let's get into the

883
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: real meat of this, because this is where it falls

884
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: apart completely Donald Trump. Basically the quote Thatking Jefferies is

885
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: so honked off about is that Donald Trump says Democrats

886
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: are quote the greatest enemy. Okay, like, yes, Donald Trump

887
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: is hyperbolic. We get it, like we know, like he

888
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 1: literally said the funniest quote. And me and my dad

889
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: we talk about this all the time when people say, like,

890
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: what is the most hilarious and outlandish thing that Donald

891
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: Trump has ever said? It was a real it was.

892
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: It's a deep track for us. We say, he literally

893
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: said one time, I'm going to fix the criminal justice

894
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: system in two or three weeks, And he and I

895
00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: just lost our minds because we know how completely foo

896
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: bard the criminal justice system is in the United States

897
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: and how it is going to be a monumental shift

898
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: to do anything remotely resembling criminal justice reform in this country.

899
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Speaker 1: But we just started laughing at because it's just so insane.

900
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: But I don't remember which political commentator said it. It's

901
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: not I who said it, but it was his head

902
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: son will say, Donald Trump, forty fifth, forty seventh President

903
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: of the United States, he said a lot of stuff

904
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: like that. I mean newsflash, Donald Trump is hyperbolic, Okay,

905
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: But that's where we draw the line. Like when Donald

906
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: Trump says that Jim Acosta and other lying journalists are

907
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: the enemy of the people. When he says that he's

908
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: actually not sad that Robert Muller is dead so he

909
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: can't hurt any more innocent people kind of agree with that,

910
00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: not the glad he's dead part, But like those people

911
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: are drawing the line at Donald Trump saying that Democrats

912
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: are the greatest enemy. And those same people that have

913
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: called this man Adolf Hitler, that have called his supporters nazis,

914
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: said that Maga is a threat to democracy. That compared

915
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: January sixth to nine to eleven in Pearl Harbor, Like,

916
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: that's the thing is, Democrats are so unbelievably over the

917
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: top and irresponsible in their rhetoric. That's just stuff I'm

918
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: coming up with off the top of my head. They

919
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: say so much crazy stuff. And that's the thing is,

920
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 1: like Donald Trump, for every one crazy thing Donald Trump says,

921
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: democrats say three thousand. Like that's kind of hyperbolic, maybe,

922
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: but I'm the point remains. These people are the kings

923
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: and queens and whatever. The non binary version of king

924
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: or queen is whatever the hell whatever gender goblin royalty is.

925
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: These people are the kings queen's royalty of saying hyperbolic

926
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: stuff that is insane. But now, like I'm supposed to

927
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: gasp at Donald Trump saying that Jakim Jefferies and Democrats

928
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: are the enemy. And listen, are you shocked? Like are

929
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: you really shocked that a guy who has been impeached

930
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: like two or three times, a guy who literally like

931
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: if he says he's against you know, cancer, Democrats will say, well,

932
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden, we don't think cancer

933
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 1: is too bad, Like, are you surprised that that guy

934
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: hates you? Are you surprised that that guy lets his

935
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: hate be known for you every step of the way,

936
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: Like are you really shocked by that? You would hate

937
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: you too if you were him, for God's sake, But anyway,

938
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: like you don't get to call someone hitler and then

939
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: cry about enemy like that's like committing an arson and

940
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: complaining about smoke. Like you escalated this for a decade,

941
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: and now you want manners Like the minute Donald Trump

942
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: clipped Hillary Clinton in the twenty sixteen election, that was

943
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: political nuclear war, And now you want civility like it's

944
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: it's breathtaking. You called me, You've called me a science denier,

945
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: You've called me a You said I was killing Grandma

946
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: because I was sick and tired of COVID mandates. But

947
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: now you want civility. That's cute like that, that's adorable.

948
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: And here's the kicker. Like you would think, I thought foolishly,

949
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: because I've literally spent every almost every single Sunday night

950
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: talking to you folks about how these people have no

951
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: moral basement whatsoever. I thought that when a bullet missed

952
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: his head by like a centimeter, that the rhetoric would stop.

953
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: It didn't. I thought that when somebody showed up with

954
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: a freaking ak forty seven to his uh, to his

955
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: to his golf course, I thought it would maybe stop.

956
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: I thought when Charlie kirk Kirk got his throat blown

957
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: out by a thirty out six round, you know, I

958
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: thought that that would stop too. But no, it's it's

959
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: really just simple. They don't believe in lowing the temperature.

960
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: They want one sided disarmament, period, point blank, bar none.

961
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: They want Republicans to shut up. They want Donald Trump's

962
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: silence while they keep saying and doing quite literally whatever

963
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: they want, like a man like I think, I just

964
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: want to point this out. Uh Hakim Jefferies is flipping

965
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: out about Donald Trump, saying that he is the enemy.

966
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: Where it literally took them weeks months in some cases

967
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: to to speak out against, in most cases, non citizen

968
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: protesters after October seventh, harassing Jewish students like like, and

969
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna look at me, the person you've called a

970
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: Nazi and the guy I voted for Hitler, You're gonna

971
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: tell me that I need to lower the temperature. Folks,

972
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: the one theme across every single one of my shows,

973
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: and I haven't gotten to it enough in the last

974
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, four six months. And it's largely because after

975
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four election, the media started to tone

976
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: it down a little bit. These people gaslight I mean,

977
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: it's breathtaking. They d bank you, d platform you, tell

978
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: you to shut up, Say that you don't matter, Say

979
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: that you're racist because of the color of your skin,

980
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: Say that your sexist because of what's between your legs,

981
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: Say that you hate that you hate trans folks because

982
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: you just don't think that we should be, you know,

983
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: gender gobblining our children. Like it's breath hat I mean

984
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: these people, they I truly mean it. They do not

985
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: have a moral basement. And let's talk about presence here,

986
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: because it's performance. Like just like politics, radio, politics is

987
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: performance and Hakim Jefferies is missing the it factor right

988
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: like Trump is chaotic. He's dominant. He is one thousand

989
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: percent impossible to ignore, hate it or love it. When

990
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: he walks into a room, he sucks up all of

991
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: the available oxygen. Obama like Sada man I just it's

992
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: like slow motion in the suit with smooth operator playing

993
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: in the background. Elite communicator, brilliant communicator. I'd argue that

994
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: one of the best speech deliverers in modern American history.

995
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: Clinton just a natural political animal. Jefferies like he he

996
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: sounds like he's always reading the third draft of a

997
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: speech and when he goes tries to go off script

998
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: like this is what happens a theater kid playing gangster

999
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: like that, that's that is exactly what this is.

1000
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 4: This is.

1001
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: A uh, he'd say it, a dude who went to

1002
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: Saint X, like going down to Fairmount and trying to

1003
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: act tough like this is this is a theater kid

1004
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: playing a gangster. And it was not intimidation. It was

1005
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: community theater, like he talks like he's being graded. Like

1006
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: like the vibe I got from that was like per

1007
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: my last email like that. That's like how I could

1008
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: sum up the uh Hakeem Jefferies trying to be a

1009
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: tough guy, and like here's the real takeaway from this,

1010
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: like and and I say this about Hakeem Jefferies, and

1011
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: I mean it by like every one of these Democrats

1012
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: that try to do the tough guy thing, like Gavin Newsom,

1013
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: Eric Swalwell trying to do it is comical. It's not

1014
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: strength that they're projecting, folks, whether it's haakem Jeffries, Eric's Walwell,

1015
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: Gavin Newso, it's it's panic because deep down, just like

1016
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: every phony tough guy that's come up to you and

1017
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: wanted to chest you up in a bar, they know

1018
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: they're not dominant, they know they are out of control,

1019
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: they don't have control over anybody, and that the dude

1020
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: that they're chesting up deep down has the energy that

1021
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 1: they wish they had. So what is the dude in

1022
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: like the uh salmon colored collared shirt with his collar popped,

1023
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: like trying to be a tough guy. What do they do.

1024
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: They try to imitate, they try to sound aggressive, they

1025
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: try to match tone, but it comes off just like

1026
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: a bad impression, like they're they're it's like they're copying

1027
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: the homework, but they're they don't understand the lesson right,

1028
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: Like you can imitate tone, you can't fake authenticity like

1029
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: this is not It doesn't come up come off as confidence.

1030
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: It comes off as over compensation. And the fatal flaw

1031
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: is very obvious when it comes to Hakim Jeffries or

1032
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: Eric Swalwell. Nobody believes them like and in politics, like

1033
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: in life like that that is everything. Like you don't

1034
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: have to agree with Trump, you don't have to like him,

1035
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: but when he says something, you believe that he actually

1036
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: believes it. Jefferies, like he sounds like he's trying to

1037
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: convince himself. Like, dude, if you don't believe it, neither

1038
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: will we. It is this doesn't come off as conviction.

1039
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: It comes off like this is a rehearsal like it

1040
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: just it just doesn't have any soul behind it. That

1041
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: that's the best way to describe it. Now, Look, if

1042
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna step into the ring with Donald Trump, mister Jeffries,

1043
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,959
Speaker 1: you better be ready, like, you better sound like you've

1044
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: actually been in a fight before, because if not, you

1045
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: you end up looking exactly like you look now, a

1046
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: tough guy and a phony tough guy in a bad

1047
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: suit reading a tough guy line, hoping it lands. Instead,

1048
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: it just becomes political comedy for me to laugh at

1049
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: on the radio. I'm sorry, I just like it's Hakeem

1050
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: Jefferies trying to be a tough guy. It's like the

1051
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: political version of a kid trying to wear his dad's jacket.

1052
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: Like it's uh, he sounds like a hall monitor. Sorry,

1053
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: it just oh, Hakim Jeffries, You're You're not a tough guy, man,

1054
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: and you're not fooling anybody anyway. We're coming up against

1055
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: the break as always. On Sunday night at eight o'clock,

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Speaker 1: we talked to my friend, your friend, our friend, Patrick Reagan.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to him about this save Ac stuff,

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Speaker 1: the just the beating that John Thune is taking from

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Speaker 1: the Republican base. Also, he got some movement on the

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Speaker 1: mid terms, the vek Ramaswami, the Amy acton They're spending money,

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Speaker 1: they're putting out ads, and it's gonna get ugly here

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Speaker 1: in Ohio. We are in March, but I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: November is right around the corner anyway. Mike Allen Junior

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Speaker 1: on News Radio seven hundred WLW, Hey we're back News

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Speaker 1: Radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen Junior Sunday night, we

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Speaker 1: were rounding third at heading for home, folks. If we're

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Speaker 1: in the back end of the show, you know it's

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Speaker 1: time for my friend. You are for an our friend?

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Speaker 1: Patrick Gregan, and I just I just want to say this,

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Speaker 1: politics should not be the deciding factor and who you

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Speaker 1: choose to allow into your life. It should not. If

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Speaker 1: your entire circle is people who agree with you on everything,

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Speaker 1: you're insulated and that's how people get weird. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't do that. You got to find people that you

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Speaker 1: can disagree with that you can still sit down, talk

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Speaker 1: it out. Laugh. We definitely need more of that. So

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Speaker 1: with that, our resident Democrat, my friend, you're for an

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Speaker 1: our friend? Patrick Greggan, what's going on my friend?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Mike, that was such a great intro lead in

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Speaker 5: because I always kind of I'm intentional. I always try

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Speaker 5: to have friends that I might have some disagreements with

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Speaker 5: because the problem in this country is the one hand

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Speaker 5: doesn't see what the other is doing.

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Speaker 4: You either live in rud America or blue America.

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Speaker 5: And that's a problem if we ever want to start

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Speaker 5: to really deal with the big issues that we are facing.

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Speaker 5: I have friends that span the whole spectrum of hammer

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Speaker 5: and sickle to turbomaga and everything in between. And I

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Speaker 5: may not agree with a lick of what they say,

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Speaker 5: but I want to at least know their thought process

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Speaker 5: and then think about that and chew on it. That way,

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Speaker 5: I might be able to articulate my own position in

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Speaker 5: a better way that might reach some more people. But

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Speaker 5: instead we're in these silos. And when we're in the silos,

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Speaker 5: that's a very dangerous place to be in.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I couldn't have set it better myself, man, So

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Speaker 1: I guess speaking of dangerous places to be in the

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Speaker 1: United States Senate.

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Speaker 5: Also historically, hey, hey pining of Charles Sumner, Let's look look.

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Speaker 4: At history here.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this though, man, like.

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Speaker 5: January the sixth, I mean, there's been a lot of

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Speaker 5: stuff that happens in that chamber.

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Speaker 1: Is there any Is there any version? Because you and

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Speaker 1: I beat it to the ground. Republican base, okay, with

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Speaker 1: a Democrat base, okay? With it. Is there any version

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Speaker 1: of the Save Act that will get through the Senator?

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Speaker 1: Is this really just going to be We're done, time

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Speaker 1: to move on.

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Speaker 5: I think as of now the bill is dead on arrival,

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Speaker 5: and I think more the action is going to be

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Speaker 5: how to deal with funding a Department of Homeland Security

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Speaker 5: because these airport waiting lines are becoming intolerable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you think that they they'll be tied together?

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Speaker 5: Sorry not to mention, Sorry not to mention the TSA

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Speaker 5: workers that are being forced to work for no pay

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Speaker 5: Who doesn't who would want to go to work and

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Speaker 5: not get a paycheck?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Come on, of course not and that kind of job too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just crazy to me. So I guess

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Speaker 1: my question is is there a version of voter verification?

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Speaker 1: Like we screw the Congress, but I guess, is there

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Speaker 1: a voter verification process that whether it be Democrat voters

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Speaker 1: or the Democrat Congress people can get behind or are

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Speaker 1: you saying that this is just we're not doing this

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Speaker 1: issue at all?

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Speaker 5: There might be some very limited form that might make

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Speaker 5: it into a maybe some compromise bill that gets DHS

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Speaker 5: funded to get us out of this nightmare we are

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Speaker 5: in I'm not very optimistic about that though, And I

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Speaker 5: think that again, as the videos of these waiting lines

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Speaker 5: come an airport waiting line, we continue to trickle out.

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Speaker 5: I did see the action moving there instead the other thing.

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Speaker 5: And I know that there has always been pressure on

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Speaker 5: Johnson to completely eliminate the filibuster, and I know Quornham

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Speaker 5: has started to weaken a little bit on that. But

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Speaker 5: if the Republicans do weaken the filibuster to pass a

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Speaker 5: Save Act, what you do canon will be used against

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Speaker 5: you in the United States Senate. Let's not forget Harry Reid,

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Speaker 5: when he was the Senate majority.

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Speaker 4: Leader, chopped the filibuster for executive.

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Speaker 5: And judicial and even Supreme Court nominees, and both parties

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Speaker 5: have now used that precedent to past nominees on a

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Speaker 5: very very thin party line vote. So I understand that

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Speaker 5: there's a temptation to get rid of the filibuster, but

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Speaker 5: Fuyer beware.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing Patrick, and I guess it's just,

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Speaker 1: you know, this sort of thing comes with age, and

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Speaker 1: you and I were not getting any younger. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you remember when that was like taboo? I mean,

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Speaker 1: that was like, oh my god, just for you're blowing

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Speaker 1: up the filibuster for judicial nominee. That's like Tuesday to us, now,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: The Fox News chirn oh my god, Harry Reid did

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Speaker 5: that were legendary And to me, I always remember the

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Speaker 5: filibuster from watching mister Smith goes to Washington.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's just very.

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Speaker 4: Or a schoolhouse rock. I'm just a bill on the hill.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And that's the thing is I just I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what bill would be worth

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Speaker 1: it to me to blow up the filibuster, but I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen one yet, and I just it just feels

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Speaker 1: unbelievably irresponsible to me.

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Speaker 5: And maybe, okay, I understand we don't want anyone senator

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Speaker 5: to be able to block a billain definitely, because that

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Speaker 5: also leads to some bad behavior. Maybe it's something where

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Speaker 5: you have to stand on the floor to filibuster. Okay,

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Speaker 5: that's kind of how it traditionally was created to begin with.

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Speaker 5: But Number one, I just don't see how the Save

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Speaker 5: Act gets to sixty votes. Number two, I just don't

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Speaker 5: see the wisdom in getting rid of the legislative philibuster

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Speaker 5: because senator is Republican right now, who knows what will

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Speaker 5: happen this fall, but at some point it switches. And

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Speaker 5: if all we do is have one party go in

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Speaker 5: for two to four years and put their priorities through

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Speaker 5: and then it switches and then the other party does that,

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Speaker 5: that's not how you really govern. That's just like a

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Speaker 5: metronel just always goes back and forth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's I guess bring it back to

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Speaker 1: Ohio the ads man that the veiker Amaswamia ed Patrick

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Speaker 1: gets it's I mean, every commercial break during college basketball

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Speaker 1: for March Madness, I saw it. I haven't seen anything

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Speaker 1: necessarily for Amy acting yet. I think I may have

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Speaker 1: seen something on YouTube, but they're obviously I mean, I really, truly,

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Speaker 1: I can't think of it in a very long time.

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Speaker 1: More different candidates from your perspective, I guess what's the

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Speaker 1: strongest case for Amy acting? I just I know I've

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Speaker 1: said this to you time and time again. I just

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure why she was the choice.

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Speaker 5: What do you make well, I think the strongest tool.

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Speaker 5: Let me back up a second. I was at the

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Speaker 5: Hamilton County Democratic dinner last night. Yeah, and I had

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Speaker 5: a record setting crowd of over six hundred people. There's

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Speaker 5: never been a Hamilton County Democratic dinner that large.

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Speaker 4: Wow Butler County.

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Speaker 5: Butler County, there were nearly four hundred people and Governor

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Speaker 5: Andy Basheer was the keynote.

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Speaker 4: Wow in southwest Ohio.

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Speaker 5: There's something potentially happening, and who knows, Ohio might surprise

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Speaker 5: a few people this fall. I would frank that's say

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Speaker 5: the biggest case for Amy Act in his look. The

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Speaker 5: Republicans have had all three branches of Ohio's government for

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Speaker 5: quite a long time. Last time a state elected a

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Speaker 5: Democrat as governor, I was in sixth grade.

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Speaker 4: I'm now thirty two years old.

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Speaker 5: And at the same time that we've had unified Republican

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Speaker 5: control of government, we have flid in education, healthcare, and housing.

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Speaker 5: So maybe it's time for an alternative, and it's maybe

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Speaker 5: it's time for a little bit of something different. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I think is the thirty second elevator pitch as to

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Speaker 5: why someone should consider voting for Amy Acting is fault.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's I guess there's something different. I think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's I just got to ask the obvious.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she became a huge figure during COVID and

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Speaker 1: it's again like it points to the fact that we're

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Speaker 1: at our collective corners here. I mean, Democrats probably view

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Speaker 1: her actions and her stance and her you know, entire

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Speaker 1: era and image during COVID is a strength, whereas Republicans

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Speaker 1: see that and they're like, holy crap, how I mean,

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Speaker 1: what the hell are they thinking running her? You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it's like this this race itself, I think,

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Speaker 1: with how different these candidates are and how the weaknesses

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Speaker 1: of one candidate, you know, for the Republicans, the Democrats

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Speaker 1: see that as a strength. I mean, it's just it's

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Speaker 1: wild to me. I mean, is that is that something

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna I guess, wave that flag of you know,

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Speaker 1: Amy acting was responsible during cod you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Are they going to use that as a highlight reel

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Speaker 1: so to speak? Where Republicans are going to use it

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Speaker 1: as a blooper reel?

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: I think that as gas prices continued to go up,

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Speaker 5: given what's going on in the Middle East right now,

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Speaker 5: unless unless Washington can find a way to stabilize, if

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Speaker 5: not maybe bring back down prices that compared that paired

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Speaker 5: with food inflation that is still quite high, right now,

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Speaker 5: no one is going to be talking about COVID to

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Speaker 5: the level they would need to in order to make

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Speaker 5: that issue stick. I think the most online of us,

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Speaker 5: those of us that watch the news on a daily

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Speaker 5: basis or on Twitter all the time, Sure that's going

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Speaker 5: to be a talking point because that is for the

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Speaker 5: voter that is super super engaged. But to someone who

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Speaker 5: maybe isn't wedded to either party, particularly I just had

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Speaker 5: to pay four dollars for a gallon of gas, they

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Speaker 5: might be asking some questions. So I think it always

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Speaker 5: comes down to the economy and how the middle class

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Speaker 5: is doing economically kind of predicts how they're going to vote.

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Speaker 5: And again this is remember Republicans hung this around Joe

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Speaker 5: Biden's neck like an albatross, the condition of the economy

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Speaker 5: and inflation, and it.

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Speaker 4: Drug his pull numbers down.

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Speaker 5: So Democrats have the opportunity to do this with the

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Speaker 5: with the Republican of the fake and honestly, the guy's

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Speaker 5: giving us material to work with the Medicare and Medicaid

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Speaker 5: wore a mistake. What he made his money was by

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Speaker 5: predatorily buying up pharmaceutical patents and then jacking the price

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Speaker 5: up of the drugs. Not to mention he did business

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Speaker 5: in China while doing that, So this guy's giving us

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Speaker 5: material to work with. Oh and by the way, then

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Speaker 5: says that cost increases are quote perceived. It's it's taking

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Speaker 5: me back to Romney's forty seven percent moment. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 5: the moment you knew his campaign was dead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I guess I say, let.

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Speaker 4: Him keep talking, please, ytinued to talk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess you already answered my next question.

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Speaker 1: It was going to be what is what worries democrats

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Speaker 1: most about the veke? You know what I mean? And

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Speaker 1: it sounds to me like it's it's a cut in

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Speaker 1: social service spending. I guess if that makes sense, not

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Speaker 1: to just get into every single one of them, but

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Speaker 1: just generally, well.

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Speaker 5: I would say probably the biggest, you know, the biggest

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Speaker 5: worry is basically that they're going to take the state

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Speaker 5: government and okay, for instance, we're going to eliminate the

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Speaker 5: state income tax. What that then means property taxes, sales

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Speaker 5: taxes will have to go up, everything else will have

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Speaker 5: to be cut. But those at the top that don't

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Speaker 5: want to pay income tax, they'll be just fine. So

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Speaker 5: it's a continued hollowing out of the middle class.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's that's again. I just I'd

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Speaker 1: be remiss if I didn't say that. I feel like

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Speaker 1: this race sums up the political situation in the United States, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean now, literally two pearler opposites.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't think of two more different candidates that are

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Speaker 5: running against each other. And that's why I'm interested in

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Speaker 5: what their debates look like going into the fall.

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Speaker 4: The other thing is.

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Speaker 5: This, this race would look a lot different if Washington

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Speaker 5: had not essentially made the Ohio Republican Party indoors for

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Speaker 5: fake John Houston never wanted to be a senator. He

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Speaker 5: always wanted to be the governor. If the Republicans had

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Speaker 5: been running John Houston, I think this race would look

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Speaker 5: very different. I don't think it would be even remotely competitive.

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Speaker 5: Houston has won multiple times statewide. People know his name,

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Speaker 5: and he's not the kind of Republican that's going to

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Speaker 5: be climbing the Capitol in January the sixth. But the

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Speaker 5: Republicans gave Democrats a little bit of a gift. Now

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Speaker 5: we'll see what happens the state has it. This is

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Speaker 5: just the quintessential Obama to Trump state the state went

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Speaker 5: for Donald Trump three times, between ten and eleven points each.

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Speaker 5: Those are the head ones that we faced. However, given

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Speaker 5: some of what we saw in Virginia and New Jersey

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Speaker 5: and some of these special elections, Democrats are engaged and

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Speaker 5: they're voting and they're turning out. And when I heard

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Speaker 5: that almost four hundred people went to a Democratic dinner

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Speaker 5: in Butler County last night, I really thought I was

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Speaker 5: borderline hallucinating. So there are shifts happening in the electric

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Speaker 5: We'll see what happens if those shifts turn into a

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Speaker 5: flip this fall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Patrick, I got about four minutes left here, man,

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Speaker 1: I got it. I'd be nuts if I didn't ask

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Speaker 1: you about this DHS insanity from the from the Democrat perspective,

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Speaker 1: if there's a full bun shutdown, like what's actually driving this?

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Speaker 1: Like is this really? Is it anything but get ice

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Speaker 1: out of major cities or is there more to this?

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Speaker 1: Because I just is this It's starting to feel like

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01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: there's no realistic middle ground here, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like that there's just gonna be no compromise, just like

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Speaker 1: with the Senate stuff.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think also you should probably add into this

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Speaker 5: the fact that we're now going to get a new

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Speaker 5: DHS secretary and Mullan Mallin seems to be striking a.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this stuff, the warrants in the homes, the actual

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Speaker 1: judicial warrants. I was surprised at that. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a good idea. I'm just surprised that he's going there.

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Speaker 5: You know, Here's here's the thing. If you ask any

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Speaker 5: immigration attorney or progressive activist, they call Obama the deporter

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Speaker 5: in chie because the Obama administration they deported in many

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Speaker 5: cases more people than the Trump administration. Yeah, and it's

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Speaker 5: because they focused mainly on on jails and courthouses and

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Speaker 5: those processes. So Christy Noan with her kind of costume

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Speaker 5: costplay goon squad situation, it completely blew it up. And

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Speaker 5: so maybe the deal that finally unlocks DHS funding is

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Speaker 5: that they agree to just take it back to how

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Speaker 5: they used to enforce things, but having having them run

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Speaker 5: around major cities warrantless searches.

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Speaker 4: With guns that I don't think.

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Speaker 5: I think the founding fathers would have some questions if

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Speaker 5: they saw that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously, obviously, So I guess the question becomes, I mean,

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Speaker 1: is there is there anywhere to go here? Or is

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Speaker 1: this just I mean, what was it forty days the

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Speaker 1: last one full government shutdown? I mean, what the hell

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Speaker 1: are we doing here?

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Speaker 5: I think they're eventually going to have to do a

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Speaker 5: deal of some sort, and it's going to be probably

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Speaker 5: a very limited, narrow bill, maybe something that gets us

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Speaker 5: through to election day. There's as these wait times that

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Speaker 5: the airports creep up, not to mention, as airlines start

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01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 5: to cut flights because of fuel price spikes given the

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Speaker 5: situation in the Middle East. Yeah, there's going to be

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Speaker 5: untenable pressure on Washington to get the airport's kind of

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Speaker 5: back open, get get the TSA workers back toward and paid,

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Speaker 5: and by god.

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Speaker 4: They'd better put retroactive pay in that bill.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta be honest, Patrick. And then look, I

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Speaker 1: am that guy that, for some reason, every time I

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Speaker 1: go through TSA, I get pulled aside and the extra

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Speaker 1: stuff and blah blah blah, and I get really annoyed.

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Speaker 1: And I'm a civil libertarian to the death, So you know,

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Speaker 1: doing the job by Yeah, I know, I know, And

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Speaker 1: you see, Alfa Freagan mad I get when I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: why are you touching me? Like damn it. But I

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Speaker 1: the bottom line is there's I what incentive at this

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Speaker 1: point will there be to ever be a TSAA. You

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Speaker 1: get paid what half the time at this point?

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Speaker 4: Right? And that's that's wrong. I mean we want people

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Speaker 4: just objectively wrong.

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Speaker 5: We want we want people that are going to either

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Speaker 5: work in government or some form of public service to

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Speaker 5: have certainty that they're going to be paid and their

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Speaker 5: paycheck does not become political fodder. So it's we cannot

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Speaker 5: we can't keep doing stuff like this. Yeah, our rangers

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01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 5: TSA if you if you show up to work, you

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Speaker 5: need to be able to get your paycheck.

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Speaker 1: It's just basic basic.

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Speaker 4: Uh, that's basic.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, any business knows they got to pay their workers

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01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 5: otherwise the workers are not coming back.

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Speaker 1: I know we talk about it, Patrick, and we got

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Speaker 1: a jump, but I I just the depths of how

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Speaker 1: bad both Houses of Congress of Godden over the last

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Speaker 1: thirty years is just it's way you would.

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Speaker 4: They more resemble houses of ill repute rather than.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Brother. Now we got to get into

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Speaker 1: the slush fund for the settlements, but that's a whole

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Speaker 1: nother show man.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm imagining meme with like a slushy machine and

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Speaker 5: I don't know dollar bills slushing around in there.

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Speaker 1: You think people are obsessed with the Epstein stuff. Good God,

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Speaker 1: people not.

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Speaker 5: That man will not sin again. If you are in

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Speaker 5: some corners of the internet. I guess he didn't go in.

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Speaker 1: I never died and that Patrick. We will leave it

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Speaker 1: at that, my friend. Thanks as always, brother, Wow theme song.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely man, Talk to you soon, buddy, all right, you too,

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Speaker 1: all right, take care. Hey, that's it for me. Folks.

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Speaker 1: Stick around for Willie on the Late Show Mike Allen

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Speaker 1: Junior on News radio seven hundred WLW.