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Speaker 3: back to seven thirty so from the Daily Wire, the

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Speaker 3: United States Department of Agriculture says tens of millions of

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Speaker 3: if the Senate Democrats continue to refuse the deal on

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Speaker 3: Senate Democrats have now voted twelve times to not fund

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Speaker 3: Through this whole debacle. Democrats have created forty two million

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Speaker 3: our attention over to Governor Tim Walls. Now, as we

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Speaker 4: And they're not. They're allowing the Democrats to.

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Speaker 3: So yesterday, Governor Tim Walls and I'm working off the

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Speaker 5: I have set in front of Congress for eight hours

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Speaker 3: So he was responding to Christy Nome coming to the

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Speaker 3: Walls's own laws granting benefits to undocumented immigrants fuel the

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Speaker 5: We'll continue to follow the federal laws we always have.

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Speaker 3: And again, that's another lie. And the Democrats have been

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Speaker 3: lied about what was actually taking place. ICE is erecting,

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Speaker 5: As they're waiting for their immigration hearings to go through

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Speaker 7: Really, why would you come? Why did you buy?

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Speaker 5: How much had it cost to come here and do

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Speaker 7: What's a little work to be done?

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Speaker 3: What here? Wall's better be careful what he wishes for?

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Speaker 3: So next up, Walls does unveil this four million dollar

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Speaker 3: We're grateful the Governor Tim Walls in a swift response

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Speaker 3: first pause on SNAP benefits. Yeah, that's your guys' fault. Dfllers.

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Speaker 3: That's a straight up lie coming from the Minnesota House

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Speaker 4: But they're all lying.

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Speaker 3: That's about to change. Snap Benefits will not go out

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Speaker 5: It is not a privilege to have, dude, It's a

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Speaker 7: And we have made an effort.

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Speaker 4: That's it is. There all campaign moves by him.

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Speaker 5: Now, and be very very clear, I had some statistics

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Speaker 5: And so just to be very clear, this is across

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Speaker 7: Banks across Minnesota. This will be a bridge. I want

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Speaker 5: But I would say again, we put out about seventy

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Speaker 5: They're paying contractors to tear down the East Wing, but

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Speaker 4: And there's another lie.

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Speaker 5: So if there's a sense of frustration in America, it's

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Speaker 3: So you should go and reach out to your fellow colleagues,

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Speaker 6: He needs sixty votes in the Senate. We only have

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Speaker 9: And Rich here, So it's quite concerning about Tim always

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Speaker 1: Food as a right?

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Speaker 10: That makes no sense because rights just literally exist. It

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Speaker 1: It's not a right.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing to me.

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Speaker 3: Republican Ron Shoots enters the race for Minnesota Attorney General.

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Speaker 3: I'm working off an article here from the Minnesota Star

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, John.

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Speaker 4: So let's just start here.

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Speaker 4: And then we'll get into a little bit more of

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Speaker 11: Well, you'll get into a little bit more of my

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Speaker 11: But the crime fraud, the attacks on law enforcement, the

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Speaker 3: Okay, so let's get into UH, because I've already got

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Speaker 1: Well, I've been a lifelong Republican.

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Speaker 11: My wife and I have been very active in Republican

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Speaker 11: party and we've been activists. A lot of people will

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Speaker 11: either write checks or they'll work, and we've done both.

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Speaker 11: My wife was a BPOU co chair for ten or

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Speaker 11: fifteen years, I can't remember. Both of us have frequently

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Speaker 11: been delegates to the state convention. My wife was a

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Speaker 11: delegate to the National Republican Convention in two thousand and four,

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Speaker 11: and I was a delegate to the National Convention in

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Speaker 11: two thousand and eight. So we've been extensively involved in

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Speaker 11: Republican Party politics, both at the grassroots level and in

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Speaker 11: financially supporting candidates, holding fundraisers at our homes in a way.

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Speaker 3: So lifelong Minnesotan we know, and I won't get into

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Speaker 3: the data points, but we know that. You know, a

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Speaker 3: significant portion of the population has left the state. You know,

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Speaker 3: many people have gone to the neighboring the neighboring states.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that feel like Minnesota is

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Speaker 3: a bit of a bit of a lost cause given

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Speaker 3: the political dynamics.

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Speaker 4: Now, I don't agree with.

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Speaker 3: That when you get into the numbers of percentages and

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Speaker 3: how close the a elections are. But what do you

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Speaker 3: say to individuals who have just decided, you know what,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to pack up and leave. I just don't

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Speaker 3: feel like we can recover in this state. What do

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Speaker 3: you say to people like that? Again, talking with Ron

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Speaker 3: Shoots running for Attorney General.

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Speaker 11: Well, I do not think the state's a lost cause.

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Speaker 11: If I thought it was a lost cause, I wouldn't

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Speaker 11: be running, sure. I mean I'm running to try to

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Speaker 11: bring the state back to some level of common sense here.

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Speaker 11: And you mentioned earlier the Center of the American Experiment.

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Speaker 11: You've had Grace and Catherine on frequently, and John Hinderocker.

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Speaker 11: You've probably had John on. John Laws, Yeah, a good

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Speaker 11: friend of mine. I've been on the board since I

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Speaker 11: think twenty twelve. I served as board chair for three

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Speaker 11: years and one of the overriding themes and missions of

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Speaker 11: the Center of the American Experiment. And John says this

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Speaker 11: a lot. Minnesota is not a lost cause. And if

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Speaker 11: you look at the incredible support the Center has had,

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Speaker 11: there is clearly a conservative, strong conservative component in the

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Speaker 11: state of Minnesota. And what I have frequently said is

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Speaker 11: that people live Minnesotans live a conservative life, but unfortunately

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Speaker 11: they vote Democrat too often.

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Speaker 1: I think they don't really vote their pocketbook.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to the iHeartRadio app has some talkback questions

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Speaker 3: that rolled in for you. Before I get to some

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Speaker 3: more of what I want to ask again, Ron Shoots

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Speaker 3: and running for Attorney General.

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Speaker 4: Let's go here to this.

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Speaker 12: John shoots the question. I've talked to a lot of

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Speaker 12: legislatures and they know that two to three percent at

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Speaker 12: least maybe four by Now of any election that is

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Speaker 12: that close is won by fraud, will John shoots unlike

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Speaker 12: the last candidate. If Keith Elson only ones by two,

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Speaker 12: can he call for a forensic audit of that election?

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Speaker 12: Because I don't think Keith Elson really won.

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Speaker 3: It's a sentiment that a lot of people had. I

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Speaker 3: you know, I have my own views on this, but

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Speaker 3: I'm curious to get your thoughts. When people talk about

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Speaker 3: their concerns about election fraud.

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Speaker 11: Well, I'd like to think that we don't have fraud

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Speaker 11: in elections. But when anybody ever tells me, oh, there's

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Speaker 11: no fraud in elections, I asked them this. In the

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Speaker 11: twenty twenty four election, for example, last presidential election, I

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Speaker 11: think there were about three point two million votes cast,

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Speaker 11: give or take. And I'll ask somebody, do you think

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Speaker 11: that of those three plus million votes casts, there was

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Speaker 11: at least one vote that was fraudulent?

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Speaker 1: And they'll say, well, probably there was one vote that

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Speaker 1: was fraudulent. I said, well, do you think there were two?

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Speaker 11: Well, yeah, probably two out of three million? What about three?

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Speaker 11: But you get my point. There is certainly some level

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Speaker 11: of voter fraud. We just don't know how much it is.

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Speaker 11: And now we've got the problem of anyone, regardless of

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Speaker 11: your immigration status, being able to go and get a

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Speaker 11: driver's license. And there's been some news reports recently about

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Speaker 11: the potential impacts that can have on voter fraud. With

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Speaker 11: respect to the listeners question about can I call for

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Speaker 11: an audit, there are there are rules that govern when

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Speaker 11: you can call for recount, when there's an automatic recount,

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Speaker 11: and what has to be paid for what we hope

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Speaker 11: What we hope is that is that we win and

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Speaker 11: we don't need to go there. I mean, that's our plan.

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Speaker 11: We're not We're not planning to call for a recount.

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Speaker 11: We're planning to win this race.

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Speaker 3: And I'll take just a moment and mention that I

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Speaker 3: talked about this with RNC Committee and ak Kamara at

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Speaker 3: a recent event that we both had a co hosted together.

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Speaker 3: And there are efforts that are being made by the

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Speaker 3: GOP to make sure that we have as many people

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Speaker 3: on election Day at these polling places monitoring what's going

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Speaker 3: on beyond what we've ever done in the past. And

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Speaker 3: so don't think for a second that those that are

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Speaker 3: continue to be concerned about the fraud that it isn't

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Speaker 3: being looked at by by the GOP as an entity.

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Speaker 3: To make sure that we can show up as best

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Speaker 3: as we possibly can our elections. Getting back to Keith

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Speaker 3: Ella's and what's been your biggest concern over the way

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Speaker 3: that he has operated the Attorney General's office, Ron Shoots,

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Speaker 3: I'm running for attorney general since he's been holding that position.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a couple of things.

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Speaker 11: It's one about what he's done, and one about and

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Speaker 11: several of things he hasn't done. I mean, he has

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Speaker 11: literally turned a blind eye to fraud. We've got these

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Speaker 11: massive fraud programs in the state, and you can start

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Speaker 11: with feeding our future. Now we have the autism fraud scandal,

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Speaker 11: the housing services fraud scandal, and you can go on

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Speaker 11: and on, and he has just simply failed to take

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Speaker 11: any proactive efforts to try to stop fraud in these

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Speaker 11: massive government programs. And then once there is some inkling

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Speaker 11: of fraud, he has done nothing. I mean, the FEDS

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Speaker 11: have been the leading, you know, the leading drivers.

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Speaker 1: Of those prosecutions.

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Speaker 11: The Attorney General's Office has approximately two hundred lawyers in

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Speaker 11: the office, and those lawyers are the lawyers for the state.

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Speaker 11: Every agency every day department, every commission has access to

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Speaker 11: a lawyer at the Attorney General's office, and those line

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Speaker 11: lawyers know those businesses. One of the things I will

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Speaker 11: do when I become Attorney General is I will make

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Speaker 11: sure that there is some increased training and awareness of

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Speaker 11: those line lawyers and urging them to be looking more

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Speaker 11: closely for red flags that could go to fraud. The

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Speaker 11: other thing that Keith Ellison has not done, he has

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Speaker 11: pete the Attorney General, whoever occupies that slot has broad

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Speaker 11: investigatory powers under the Minnesota statues governing the Attorney General's office.

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Speaker 11: The Attorney General can issue subpoenas, the Attorney General can

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Speaker 11: call people in to testify. And when you have these

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Speaker 11: massive government programs with handouts or excuse me, grants to

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Speaker 11: nonprofits and other corporations that have been tasked with implementing

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Speaker 11: government programs, we're going to start questioning the top programs

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Speaker 11: and causing anybody else that's on the receiving end of

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Speaker 11: these large government block grants to look over their shoulders

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Speaker 11: and know that the Attorney General is paying attention.

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Speaker 3: And you've you've answered this a bit, but let me

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Speaker 3: let me continue with the fraud angle. Of this again

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Speaker 3: talking with a candidate for Attorney General, Ron Shoots in

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Speaker 3: studio here on Twin Cities News Talk. But we've been

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Speaker 3: covering in now the issue of fraud is probably the

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Speaker 3: number one issue that we've been discussing, certainly on the show,

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Speaker 3: but it is now just being covered across the board.

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Speaker 3: Even the legacy local media outlets wear in they would

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Speaker 3: be quick to go and cover the fraud when it

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Speaker 3: was sort of exposed, and then it would kind of

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Speaker 3: disappear from the headlines. Even now you're seeing there's renewed interest.

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Speaker 3: You have outlets that are doing this investigative reporting, So

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Speaker 3: it seems like they're beginning to understand that there is

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Speaker 3: an interest by the public. Right now, what is it

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Speaker 3: that Keith Ellison should be doing with his Attorney General's

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Speaker 3: office relating to what we know so far of the

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Speaker 3: fraud that has occurred. What is it that he should

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Speaker 3: be doing that he's not doing, And what is it

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Speaker 3: that you would do beyond what you said already.

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Speaker 11: Well, the fraud that we know has occurred, we know

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Speaker 11: because there's been investigations by the US Attorney's Office primarily

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Speaker 11: now occasionally the US Attorney's Office will ask the Minnesota

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Speaker 11: Attorney General's office to issue some subpoenas and try to

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Speaker 11: gather some evidence. So when Keith Ellison says he tries

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Speaker 11: to take credit for some of the recent fraud prosecutions,

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Speaker 11: He's not driving that bus. The US Attorney's Office is

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Speaker 11: driving the bus asking for the support of the Minnesota

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Speaker 11: Attorney General's office. It's not the other way around. It's

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Speaker 11: not as if Keith Ellison is doing investigations, finding evidence,

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Speaker 11: putting together a package, tying it with a bone, handing

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Speaker 11: it to the US Attorney's Office and say prosecute, which

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Speaker 11: is one of the things that I intend to do.

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Speaker 11: He has not simply not done that.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to turning the state around not being

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Speaker 3: a lost cause. I mean, we're talking about dealing with

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Speaker 3: the fraud, But what other aspects of improving life here

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Speaker 3: in Minnesota do you think that you could take part

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Speaker 3: in as attorney general here.

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Speaker 11: Another thing that impacts people's quality of life is crime.

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Speaker 11: And I've worked in downtown Minneapolis all of my post

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Speaker 11: military legal career, and it has been sad, really sad

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Speaker 11: to watch the deterioration of downtown Minneapolis for those people

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Speaker 11: who live in the suburbs of the Twin Cities. They

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Speaker 11: may think that really doesn't impact me, but it really does.

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Speaker 11: Because Minneapolis is the financial hub, the financial center of

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Speaker 11: the state, and it's important that it be vibrant. And

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Speaker 11: the crime problem in Minneapolis impacts everyone, impacts people who

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Speaker 11: work down there. You may live in the suburbs, but

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Speaker 11: if you've got children, they will come home from college

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Speaker 11: after in high school, they'll venture to downtown Minneapolis for

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Speaker 11: some of the entertainment venues down there. You don't want

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Speaker 11: them getting caught in a crossfire. A few weeks ago,

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Speaker 11: maybe a month or two or so ago, now, there

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Speaker 11: was a car jacking on Lake Street in South Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: There was a police chase that followed.

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Speaker 11: That car ended up on Highway fifty five, somewhat west

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Speaker 11: of downtown Minneapolis, crashed into another car and killed two

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Speaker 11: innocent people. Highway fifty five is a major artery into

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Speaker 11: downtown Minneapolis. So if you think that crime can't happen

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Speaker 11: to you, or a tragedy can't happen to you just

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Speaker 11: because you live out in Minnetaka or Plymouth, that's not true.

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Speaker 3: So in the Minnesota Star Tribune pieces as a matter

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Speaker 3: of fact, it ended up in a couple of different

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Speaker 3: articles relating to when you made your announcement Ron Shoots

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Speaker 3: running for Minnesota Attorney General, but current Minnesota DFL chair

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Speaker 3: Richard Carlbaum says this got a kick out of this.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those in my view, thou dost protest

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Speaker 3: too much me? That isn't may He said that you

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Speaker 3: are a corporate shill ready to invite President Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: to occupy our cities, pollute our water, and erode the

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Speaker 3: rights of everyday Minnesotan's Schultz is more committed to politicizing

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Speaker 3: this office than running it, paying to in bet himself

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Speaker 3: in the boards of billionaire funded dark money groups fighting

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Speaker 3: on behalf of Minnesota's wealthiest. Your thoughts on Richard carl

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Speaker 3: Baum's comments here.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot to unpack there, but let me start, Okay.

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Speaker 11: I think it's important, if for anyone to take a

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Speaker 11: detailed look at my post military legal career. I have

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Speaker 11: frequently represented David versus Goliath. In other words, I frequently

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Speaker 11: represented the little guy. To call me a corporate chill

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Speaker 11: as a joke. Probably my most famous case and the

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Speaker 11: one that really launched my career.

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Speaker 1: When I was in my late thirties.

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Speaker 11: Was a case as a patent infringement lawsuit. I have

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Speaker 11: an engineering degree. I'm a little bit of an unusual lawyer,

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Speaker 11: highly technical. I do complicated cases. But I represented the

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Speaker 11: inventor of the EMERI machine, doctor Raymond d'amadian, and his company.

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Speaker 11: His small company, Phonart Corporation, was headquartered out in Long Island,

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Speaker 11: New York. I represented them against General Electric. I won

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Speaker 11: one hundred and ten million dollar jury verdict the patent

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Speaker 11: fringement case against General Electric. At the time, General Electric

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Speaker 11: was the most powerful corporation on the planet. We were

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Speaker 11: facing an army of lawyers. That's just one example where

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Speaker 11: I've represented the little guy.

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Speaker 12: I have.

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Speaker 11: Represented the little guy in cases against Sony, Samsung.

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Speaker 1: You know it's so Microsoft, Apple.

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Speaker 11: I mean you could go on and on against the

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Speaker 11: major companies that I've taken on in my legal career.

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Speaker 11: So first of all, they call me a corporate chill,

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Speaker 11: It's just a joke, okay. And then the idea that

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Speaker 11: somehow I'm going to be responsible for polluting the waters

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Speaker 11: of the state. I'm not sure who wrote that, really

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Speaker 11: wrote that press release, or what they were coming up with.

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Speaker 11: That's crazy talk. Then it makes some comment about I've

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Speaker 11: paid to be on corporate boards funded by dark money billionaires.

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Speaker 11: I'm assuming they're talking about the Center of the American

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Speaker 11: Experiment Board. And we had a recent board meeting where

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Speaker 11: John Hinderocker referenced that press release and he said, am

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Speaker 11: I missing something here? Where are our billionaire funders? Because

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Speaker 11: we don't have any? And of course the billionaires fund

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Speaker 11: the Democrats. Okay, the billionaires don't fund the Republicans.

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Speaker 3: How has and we'll we'll wrap up on this again

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Speaker 3: talking with Attorney General candidate to Ron Shoots, and again,

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Speaker 3: thank you so much for coming in this morning. You know,

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Speaker 3: Ellison barely won that election last time. There's an argument

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Speaker 3: to be made that he's more vulnerable now.

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Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on that? Is he more vulnerable now?

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Speaker 3: How?

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Speaker 4: How have things change?

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Speaker 3: And actually I think we do have a follow up

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Speaker 3: on this, But in terms of Keith Ellison's vulnerability, how

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Speaker 3: do you view that right now?

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Speaker 11: I do think he's more vulnerable now. Back in twenty

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Speaker 11: twenty two, the last time around, the fraud problem was

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Speaker 11: just starting to surface. But the fraud problem has exploded

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Speaker 11: in the last four years, and the crime problem.

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Speaker 1: Has gotten worse Teith Ellison.

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Speaker 11: They may try to claim that crime is down, crime

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Speaker 11: is really not down, and we could spend a whole

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Speaker 11: show talking about cher But I think he's I think

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Speaker 11: he's more vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: He is also.

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Speaker 11: Pushed policies that facilitate and promote biological males playing on

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Speaker 11: girl sports teams. He has doubled down on that. And

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Speaker 11: as I'm out on the campaign trail and I talked

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Speaker 11: to people and I've seen polling results, that's an eighty

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Speaker 11: twenty issue on our side, and it has nothing to

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Speaker 11: do with a tax on transgender people. That's people that

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Speaker 11: are dealing with those issues. My heart goes out to them,

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Speaker 11: and that's a whole other topic. But biological male should

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Speaker 11: not be playing on boy sports or on girl sports teams,

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Speaker 11: and he's pushing that.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this before we before you wrap

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Speaker 3: up today, I'm curious, given your time in Minnesota, right

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Speaker 3: lifelong Minnesota, can you compare is there any comparing where

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Speaker 3: the state is currently politically and even socially to a

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Speaker 3: time in the past. I'm curious if if you can

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Speaker 3: point to a time where you can look at so, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we kind of went through a similar period and this

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Speaker 3: is where we end up.

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Speaker 4: Is there any comparison that you can make in that regards.

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Speaker 11: Well, the state has been dominated by Democrats for a

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Speaker 11: long time, and we haven't had a Republican that's held

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Speaker 11: the constitutional office since Tim Plenni.

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Speaker 1: Last one in two thousand and six.

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Speaker 11: But I think there has been a shift more toward

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Speaker 11: I don't think we're a blue state. I think we're

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Speaker 11: a purplished state. Look at the State House of Representatives,

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Speaker 11: it's tied. We have four Democrat congressional members.

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Speaker 1: And four Republican congressional members.

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Speaker 11: So it's very state we've had. I'm sorry, it's very close.

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Speaker 11: We've had a problem at the constitutional level office, but

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Speaker 11: we hope to change that this election.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ron shoots ready for attorney General. Any place online

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Speaker 3: that people can go to find out more about about

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Speaker 3: your campaign.

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Speaker 11: They can thank you for that, John, They can go

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Speaker 11: to Ron for m n AG dot com. That's r

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Speaker 11: O n f O r m NAG dot com.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for dropping by this morning. It

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Speaker 3: was great to get to know you and continue good

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Speaker 3: luck in your in your campaign.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of attorney generals, coming up in Minnesota, man accused

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Speaker 3: of putting out a forty five thousand dollars bounty on

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Speaker 3: Attorney General Pam Bondi ends up facing federal charges.

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Speaker 4: We'll give you details.

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Speaker 3: On that, And we actually have some Keith Ellison news

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Speaker 3: is he and other ags are pushing back against Trump

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Speaker 3: and trying to shore up a voter integrity and security.

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Speaker 3: It's all coming up in hour three here on Twin

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