1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Bring on our NFL network insider Ian Rappaport and uh 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: he of course is powered by Chevron. Chevron the human 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: energy company committed to our local communities and safely delivering affordable, reliable, 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: ever cleaner energy. 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: Ian. 6 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, sir. 7 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: How are you? 8 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 4: What's going on here? 9 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: You guys doing great to talk with Ian. 10 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 5: I want to start with with Jalen Hurts. Stories continue 11 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 5: to kind of surface from Philadelphia, and I'm not I'm 12 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 5: not usually the NFL. There's always reasons as to why stories, 13 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 5: you know, like this pop up at a certain time. 14 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 5: But but what's your take on the on the Hurts 15 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 5: situation with the Eagles. 16 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to me, this is the reason it 17 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 4: popped up was because I think it's pretty real. I mean, 18 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 4: it's a real issue. I'm not, you know, saying that 19 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 4: one hundred percent of what was written in the article 20 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 4: was one hundred percent accurate, because I can't confirm all 21 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 4: of those different things. But to me, in an a 22 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 4: general sense is that the Eagles face you know, across 23 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 4: roads when it comes to jail and Hurts and you know, 24 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 4: he's he's had a guaranteed money after this year, it's 25 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 4: been a couple. 26 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 6: You know, it's been a tough season. 27 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: Last year obviously, you know, win the Super Bowl, which is. 28 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 6: Great, But you know, I think it's fair to say 29 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 6: the A. J. 30 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 4: Brown situation, firing an offensive coordinator, it just it wasn't great. 31 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 4: And for most franchise quarterbacks, this is not kind of 32 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 4: where they are. 33 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 6: You're not like as an organization saying. 34 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 4: Like is this definitely definitely our guy. So at least 35 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: the situation is real. How they're going to handle it, 36 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 4: I don't know, because a lot of it is determined 37 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 4: by you know, they have Seaun mannin as new offensive coordinator. 38 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 4: Does Jalen Hurts go out and have a great season. 39 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 4: If he does, then he's the quarterback till the end 40 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 4: of time, and that's that. If it's to struggle again, 41 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 4: then I think it's fair to say the Eagles will 42 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 4: have some you know, hard decisions to make. And as 43 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 4: far as why now, you know, I would say sometimes 44 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 4: reporting takes shape the way it takes shape, Like probably 45 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 4: with my guess would be now because this is how 46 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 4: long it took the reporter to compile the facts of 47 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: the article. 48 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 6: And you know, I think I'm okay with that. 49 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 7: Ian Dexter Lawrence requesting a trade from the New York Giants. 50 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: What's going on there with this? Why is this happening now? 51 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 6: So Dexter Lawrence, you know, has two years left on 52 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 6: his deal. 53 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 4: Is I believe it's twenty nine and the twenty nine 54 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 4: or thirty, you know, I was looking for that next 55 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 4: big contract. 56 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 6: And did have a great year, which you know, if 57 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 6: he goes out and has a you know, killer year, 58 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 6: then it's sort. 59 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: Of like all right, like easy decision about whether to 60 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 4: extend him. Wasn't a great year. I think the whole 61 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 4: team was generally bad. 62 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 6: But when he's on the field, he's really good. 63 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 4: He takes up double teams. He's an excellent, excellent player, 64 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 4: and he wants more money and. 65 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 6: Sometimes you know, the way to get more money is 66 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 6: to request a trade. And you know, I else, and 67 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 6: you know, there's a couple of things. 68 00:02:58,840 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: This does. 69 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 4: I think the Giants, you know, he's due twenty million dollars, 70 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: maybe they. 71 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 6: Do find a team interested in taking. 72 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: On the salary at extending him. The other part of 73 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 4: it is maybe they go out and see his value 74 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: and maybe someone or several someone's across the league says, 75 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 4: I want to trade for him and pay him thirty 76 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 4: million dollars a year, like, okay, well that's his value. 77 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 4: The other part of it is maybe somebody doesn't. So 78 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 4: I don't think it's a bad thing. I think it's 79 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 4: sort of part of the process and we'll see where 80 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 4: it lands. 81 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: Ian rappab were joining us. I want to ask you 82 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: about Kirk Cousins going to the Raiders. Is this a garant? 83 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: Is he going to be the starter week one, regardless 84 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: of what happens with Fernando Mendoza, or in your opinion, 85 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: is this a bit of a competition and fluid situation. 86 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 4: I would say more likely than not, Kirk Cousins is 87 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: going to be the starter now, you know, good Mendoza 88 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 4: come in and light it up and they. 89 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 6: Say, are we have to start this guy? 90 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: For sure? 91 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 6: They could. I mean that's happened before. I remember when 92 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 6: a different you know. 93 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: Third round, overs first rounder, but you know rookie Russell 94 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 4: Wilson was the starter right off the bat, and then 95 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 4: everyone knew it. 96 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 6: It's like, oh wow, okay, like this has to happen. 97 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 4: If Fernando Mendos is the obvious starter and he's clearly 98 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 4: the best by far, then it's like you got to 99 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 4: start him. Like deal with the paying Kirk cousin twenty 100 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 4: million dollars, No big deal. If it's a question, you 101 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 4: probably start cousins. And I think, you know, Klint Kobiak 102 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 4: has been on record saying he would prefer that his 103 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: starting quarterback. 104 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: Wait, I think you. 105 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 4: Know, as a league, if you can wait, generally that's better. 106 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,119 Speaker 4: Now his cousin's going to start the whole season, We'll see. 107 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: I mean, if they're you know, eight and three, then probably, 108 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 4: If they're three and eight, probably not, you know, I 109 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 4: just it's a he's basically a bridge starter now and 110 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 4: his aide that's that's what he is. I thought it 111 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: was a pretty safe, smart signing for a team that 112 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 4: does have some extra cash as well. 113 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. 114 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 5: My last question in bouncer back to Philadelphia, the Aj 115 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 5: Brown thing is is, at least from a national perspective, 116 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 5: maybe quite down a little bit. Are the chances better 117 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 5: now that AJ stays in Philadelphia? You think we're waiting 118 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 5: until the draft, maybe just see if something else happens. 119 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 6: I think we're waiting. I mean, I wouldn't characterize it 120 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 6: as saying it's more likely AJ's in Philadelphia. I think 121 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 6: it's more of an open question. I think the Patriots 122 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 6: are still interested. I think it makes sense for everyone 123 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 6: to wait until June because you get through that sort. 124 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 4: Of second year and you say, like, all right, like 125 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,679 Speaker 4: you know, he's less of a tap hit for the Eagles. 126 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 4: I believe it's half. It's forty versus twenty, So I think. 127 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 6: Waiting until June, you know, probably makes some sense. 128 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: Ian. 129 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 7: Are we absolutely sure that Fernando Mendos is going number 130 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 7: one overall to the Raiders? 131 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: I mean, you can never be sure in this world, 132 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 4: but like I would feel pretty. 133 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 6: Good about it. 134 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's he's taking one visit, it's this week. Yeah, 135 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: I would say there's a pretty good. 136 00:05:58,920 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 6: Chance of that. 137 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: Yes, pretty good about that. All right, Last one for me, 138 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: what did you do? 139 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: What did you make of Troy Aikman telling Clarence Hill 140 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: that the Dolphins had hired him to quote that he 141 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: had known or have information and that he could maybe 142 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: help with some of those relationships and information to the 143 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. 144 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: What'd you take away from that? 145 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 4: I mean I assume that, right, like you hire him 146 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 4: for everything, so it's sort of like you hire him 147 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 4: for the relationships. You hire him for the knowledge, for 148 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 4: team building, for what he's learned in those production meetings. 149 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 4: I mean, when you hire someone. 150 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: You get it all. 151 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 4: So like I saw, there was sort of some controversy, 152 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: but like, unless I'm missing the comments, like what was 153 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 4: the controversy? 154 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: Well, I think some of. 155 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: It maybe is the people that aren't really happy that 156 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: Tom Brady as a broadcaster, has the access that he 157 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: does and he's part owner. I don't think it's the 158 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: same situation because again Troy Aikman's not part owner. 159 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: But it's it's sort of. 160 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: Wondering if this is a new trend that we're out 161 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: to see with these guys that are prominent broadcasters in 162 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: the NFL community now kind of being hired on to 163 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: give get more information because these guys are in these meetings, 164 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: as you pointed out, with other teams. 165 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: So I don't know, maybe that's a little bit of it. 166 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 6: I just don't know. 167 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 4: I would say. What I would say is I don't 168 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: know that it's unfair, Like I don't know that Troy 169 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 4: a I mean, for being honest, like Doppin's hired exactly 170 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 4: who everybody thought they would hire, you know, I mean 171 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 4: they hired the best GM candidate, and Jenner R. 172 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 6: Salvan he hired. 173 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 4: Sony knows extremely well as a great relationship with is 174 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 4: one of the top head coaching candidates. So like, I 175 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 4: don't know what Troy Egman would have done. That was 176 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 4: sort of like unfair, but as. 177 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 6: Long as it's allowed, I'm okay with it, right. 178 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: I mean, Brady has some advantages as a. 179 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 6: Owner slash broadcaster. 180 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 4: I mean then the Raiders record hasn't reflected it. So 181 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 4: it's like, whatever, you know, all. 182 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: For points, Ian, We really appreciate you man. We'll check 183 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: me the next week. 184 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 4: Okay, thanks as look forward to it. 185 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: Thank you. 186 00:07:59,280 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 5: Ian. 187 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: Here's Troy Eikman who was sitting down with Clarence Hill 188 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: talking about being hired by the Dolphins and what that 189 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: relationship is like, I don't know. 190 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: I think the. 191 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 8: Dolphins were wise in understanding my relationships. 192 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: Around the room gloves and knowing that I have. 193 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 8: Information that they don't have or can't get, and I 194 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 8: think they were smart in taking advantage of that. 195 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: Whether it was whether it was through me or through 196 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: somebody else. The Cowboys have. 197 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 8: Never elected to do that, at least with me, you know, 198 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 8: maybe they have with others, But no, I don't. I 199 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 8: don't feel there's the conflict. But I will say I'm 200 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 8: calling for the Dolphins and I know that because now 201 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 8: I have something at stake, and I think I think 202 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 8: they hired two really talented, wonderful people, and I think 203 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 8: that's going to prove itself out. Now, twenty six is 204 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 8: going to be a tough season because of the cap 205 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 8: that you took a big yet when they like to ago. 206 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: But you know, time will tell. 207 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 8: But yeah, I'm pulling for him. I want to see 208 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 8: him do well because I feel like my fingerprints are 209 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 8: on it as well. 210 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: All Right, it sounds like a conflict to me. 211 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, He's like, I have no conflict, but 212 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 3: I really want them to win. 213 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know things that other people don't. Who 214 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: says that. I mean, I like Troy, but. 215 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 7: I mean really, And it's kind of like the Cowboys 216 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 7: didn't hire me to do this, and they. 217 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: God gave men an extra rib. Seriously, the fact that 218 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: he brought the Cowboys in. 219 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: But that conversation was kind of interesting, wasn't it, Like, Oh, well, 220 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys could have had me, but they didn't want me. 221 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 7: I think this is setting a little bit of a 222 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 7: slippery slopish type of precedent here where you can hire 223 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 7: these guys who you know, do get to sit down 224 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 7: with these coaches, and do get to see teams practice 225 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 7: on Friday, and do get to really sniff it up 226 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 7: close and see what's going on, and then bring them 227 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 7: in to. 228 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: Try to give that information around. 229 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 7: I mean, but at the same time, how many coaches 230 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 7: are really divulging a lot of what's going on? Like 231 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 7: what information are you talking about out that you have? 232 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 5: That's what I would challenge, Yeah, if I'm if I'm 233 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 5: other coaches or organizations, I'd want to know why one 234 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 5: of our lead television analysts is saying something like the 235 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 5: Dolphins knew that I had information around the league that 236 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 5: they didn't have. Okay, what exactly a you're you referring to? 237 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 5: And how how are you talking about information that you 238 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 5: glean when you're sitting down preparing and talking to both 239 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 5: head coaches prior to televising a game. If so, you're 240 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 5: not supposed to be sharing that information with the Dolphins anyway, 241 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 5: That's what he said to me. Made the whole thing 242 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 5: really problematic, and I think I think the league has 243 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 5: to like say, okay, hold on here a minute. 244 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: We got to have some guardrail, some parameters here and 245 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong. 246 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 7: They also get access to the facility, right, I mean 247 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 7: they go to. 248 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: That Friday practice, they get to watch practice. 249 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, so so who knows to what extent they get 250 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 7: to go inside and see the operation or they just 251 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 7: you know, shuttle dout onto the field and off. 252 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: It's probably different at every facility. But are you. 253 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 7: Gaining information about the operational day to day of each 254 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 7: team and the scheduling and what are you conveying to 255 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 7: the Miami Dolphins that is going to help them? 256 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 5: Where do you get that information? Because the information again 257 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 5: that you ostensibly get in your television production meeting, that's 258 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 5: not information for you to share with the team that 259 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 5: now is employing you. That's information for you and your 260 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 5: broadcast partner to use to make the broadcast better. 261 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 7: And now he said he wants him to win because 262 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 7: he's gonna have his fingerprints on it. Yeah, that was 263 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 7: just sort of like the Miami Dolphins' opponents three weeks out, 264 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 7: is he going to be doing a little extra scouting 265 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 7: and recome and trying to figure out what's going on? 266 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 7: Who might be hurt, who might be nursing something. I 267 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 7: think it's a it is a slippery slope. 268 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: Well, I thought it was interesting with Ian when I 269 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: asked him about it a moment ago, He's like, well, 270 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: look at the Raiders this last year. You know Tom 271 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: Brady would couldn't really help him out. Well, it's like 272 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: you don't know ultimately what information was helpful or not. 273 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: I mean they were not expected to be a good 274 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: team either way. So in a one year he just 275 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: got their situation. Yeah, it didn't help this year, but 276 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it can't help going forward, does it? If 277 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 1: he's getting information again, I agree. I think you'll think 278 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: that Roger Goodell should stop that. I mean, now that's 279 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: an interesting president too. What do you think Dave. 280 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 5: So to stop it would mean that he'd say, you're 281 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 5: not able to work for the Dolphins and also have 282 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 5: your current position on. 283 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: Fox XAN, Fox, ESPN, ESPN. 284 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 5: Now, yeah, I don't know if I don't know, I 285 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 5: don't know if he can do that. I just think 286 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 5: that Troy Listen, Troy Troy a smart guy. I think 287 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 5: he should have been smarter in terms of how he 288 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 5: answered those questions. I think when again, when you talk 289 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 5: about you know, it's one thing to say I'm certainly 290 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 5: rooting for the Dolphins. Okay, then I think the league 291 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 5: could say, well, then, as far as ESPN, you're not 292 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 5: going to have any Dolphin games to broadcast, which might. 293 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: Be easy this year because they're going to be awful. 294 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 5: But again, to say the Dolphins were smart because they 295 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 5: hired me because I have information that they couldn't get 296 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 5: anywhere else. I would if I'm Roger Goodell, honestly, I'd 297 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 5: want to know, Troy, what were you referring to? What 298 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 5: information were you referring to? Because you just put it 299 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 5: out there on a podcast that everybody can listen to. 300 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: On the text lines. So what if the Patriots were 301 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: to also hire Troy? Is now a conflict of interest 302 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: seems pretty obvious. In twenty twenty six, anything to do 303 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: with human beings in this world and big money, some 304 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: level of eruption is guaranteed to be a play. 305 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 5: It does it, As Nate said, slippery slope, It just 306 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 5: kind of opens the door. I mean, the NFL is 307 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 5: clearly about public perception. They have to be. I just 308 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 5: can't imagine that when they when the people back in 309 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 5: in New York in the league office heard one of 310 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 5: their Hall of Fame players and most prominent people talking 311 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 5: about what he talked about on that cut, that they 312 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 5: would be just thrilled with it. 313 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: Well, and he's got to call I mean because he 314 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: calls Monday night football, So eventually he'll call a Dolphins game, right, Well, 315 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: they're not going to be playing. 316 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: Played one. 317 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 5: Don't you think this year on a Monday night the Dolphins? 318 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 5: You better get them early in the season. 319 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: Isn't it. 320 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: Well, you guys correct me wrong, THERQUI sorry the last 321 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: three years, sorry. 322 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: Rolls off the touch. 323 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: Isn't a more prominent primetime game usually Sunday night football. 324 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: I know every team plays Thursday, like every team is 325 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: expected to play a Thursday. And it's not like I'm 326 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: not saying Monday night game doesn't matter as much, but 327 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: Sunday night game, that's the one that the league has 328 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: is the marquee. Usually the best teams and they'll flex in. 329 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: Monday night seems to be sometimes a grab bag. 330 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: Am I wrong in that assessment? 331 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 5: No, Monday night used to be the night used to be, 332 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 5: And I do think you're right now. Sunday night is 333 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 5: kind of the Marquee matchup. But not every team plays 334 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 5: on Monday night either, right, No, I mean fair. 335 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's hard with more primetime games now to have 336 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 7: them all be good. You know, they can't all be good. 337 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 7: But I'd be surprised that the Dolphins play on Monday Night. 338 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: Well, I guess as long as Troy Aikman is, I 339 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: guess employed by the Dolphins. So let's just say by 340 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: next year the Dolphins are a better team that eventually 341 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: he might call the Dolphins game. 342 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 7: But I can't imagine, you know, the League office was 343 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 7: happy with this, and I imagine they made they're. 344 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: Talking to somebody about it. 345 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you're trying to maintain the integrity of 346 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 7: the product, and they're already you know, in bed with 347 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 7: all these gambling entities. 348 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: It's the Wild West when it comes to that. 349 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 7: But they have to maintain the integrity of the product 350 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 7: for people to believe that it's not rigg, that it's above. 351 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: Board and all that. 352 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 7: You know, they're already going through the referee thing right now, 353 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 7: trying to make sure that the refs are some backup 354 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 7: refs are available, and if they are available, then they 355 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 7: have the ability from the League office to call down 356 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 7: and and and pick up a flag. 357 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: I mean to write that into the rule book this year. 358 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying, yeah, which is just an admission 359 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 7: that you've dropped the ball there. 360 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: And I think we've talked about this before. 361 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 7: I think that's again it's it's another slippery slope here, 362 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 7: so so I think the league has to be careful. 363 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: So I wanted to ask you guys about this, and 364 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: I got a really fun stack coming up here on 365 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: Gil and Waddle in Courtland sut, you just like it. 366 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: But first, so Sean had brought up how there might 367 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: be an adjustment for Bonix and Davis Webb in his 368 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: new role. I hadn't really thought about it much because 369 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: you're thinking, like, these guys have already established what they're 370 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: I don't know they're spirit of Core if you will, 371 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: I don't know why. 372 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 7: Use that nice, but anyways, I like it. What was 373 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 7: that a spirit of Core? It's just the relationship. I've 374 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 7: never heard that saying it's you never heard of but 375 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 7: a fart and a hot skillet like spruit. 376 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 9: No. 377 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: I never heard that one, by the way, And now 378 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: I'm butterfly. 379 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 5: My mind's working. So we had a seven to nine 380 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 5: texture that gave us the definition. A fart and hot 381 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 5: skillet is a colloquial American phrase describing someone or something 382 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 5: moving radically, uncontrollably, and rapidly in many directions at once, 383 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 5: often making little progress. It applies chaotic energy, frantic behavior, 384 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 5: or something that dissipates instantly. 385 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: Okay, I think I've I think I've. 386 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 7: Seen the more modern version of the fart hosculate, when 387 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 7: someone puts lights of lighter and then farts on that 388 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 7: and there turns into a flamethrower. 389 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 2: But I digress. 390 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 3: What is your algorithm doing these days? 391 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 7: You don't want to see my algorithm. It was not pretty, 392 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 7: but this was before the algorithm. You never had someone 393 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 7: do that in college or something? 394 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: Oh for sure? Come on, right, yeah a tournament? No, 395 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 2: we we've never done that. I come on. 396 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: Why Why would I intentionally seek out people in my 397 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: life to do that kind of thing? 398 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: Why would anybody want that? Because they exist everywhere? They're 399 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 2: your friends. Have you ever had someone pants you know? Seriously, 400 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: you've never been pantsed? 401 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: No? 402 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 2: I haven't. This is an invitation. 403 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 3: By the way, I have friends, I barely. 404 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 5: I never never had like in fourth grade, your little buddy, 405 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 5: little redheaded guy walking behind you and pull your pull 406 00:18:59,119 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 5: your shorts down. 407 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 2: You're like, I mean, never had that happen? Ever, who 408 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 2: hasn't had that happen? 409 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 3: Sounds like a very personal, very. 410 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 5: Narrow ettle's sexual to it. 411 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: Every answer guys, Yeah, I have not lived. 412 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: But cell phones is different now. Yeah? Can I get video? Yeah? 413 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 2: Like you used the moon people, that was a big thing. 414 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: Do you ever move anybody like in high school? 415 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 4: No? 416 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 5: Tick your bare ass out the window going by your 417 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 5: ex girlfriend's house. 418 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: I think it's called assault. 419 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 5: It's not assault the window if she had seated maybe, 420 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 5: but no. 421 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 3: I've never considered that. 422 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 7: Why every a very common form of comedy in the day. 423 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: I think the text line will agree with Dave and I. 424 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: Although I got into this discussion with him. You were 425 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: out that day Dave about t being houses. 426 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that no, of course not No. He was like, 427 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: why would you ever do that? That's horrible, that's van 428 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: you can I will call the cops. Good Lord, be 429 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: dusting for fingerprints on the toilet paper. 430 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 3: Listen, I've watched the SI enough. 431 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: They could find fingerprints everywhere. 432 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 5: Sharmans, we're gonna have to sing, We're gonna have to 433 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 5: engage in some sophomoric behavior here soon. 434 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 7: Well, I'm gonna pansy on your way out today, Yeah, 435 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 7: on my video. Then pull your shirt up. I told 436 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 7: you not an invitation. 437 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that's what I want to I want to 438 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: ask you about because Sean Payton mentioned that b Nicks 439 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: and Davis Webb relationship is about to change, which I 440 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: thought was an interesting things. 441 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 2: I had never considered that. Here's what he said. Well, 442 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: I think it. 443 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 9: Changes changes for Davis and Bo a little like Bo's 444 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 9: in there with Logan Kilgore. Now Logan will be as 445 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 9: warm fuzzy, and now Davis and myself will be like, hey, 446 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 9: what do you you know? 447 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 2: Look, I think they have a great relationship. I think. 448 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 9: There's a real cohesive. There's a cohesiveness, coach cohesiveness in 449 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 9: general with our sides. 450 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: Of the ball. 451 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 9: And I'll still be working in every of the offensive 452 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 9: meetings with you, and so I just think that it's 453 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 9: I'm glad we have Davis coming back, and I think that, 454 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 9: uh yeah, that experience will only help us. 455 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: Okay, you framed Logan Kilgore as his new woobie. Yeah, 456 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: so explain that to me. Warm fuzzy. He's the quarterback coach. 457 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 5: So he'll spend more time this season with Logan Kilgore 458 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 5: than he does with Davis Webb, and certainly more than 459 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 5: he spends with Sean Payton. Last year, Davis Webb was 460 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 5: Logan Killgore, right, he was a quarterback coach, your position coach. 461 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 5: That's the guy you spend more time than not. That's 462 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 5: the guy that you can you can express a certain 463 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 5: amount of frustration, you know, and I don't like that. 464 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: What do we do? Why are we doing this? 465 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 5: That's his job to sort of be the buffer between 466 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 5: the coordinator and the head coach. So yeah, I mean, 467 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 5: I think what Sean said is true. I think I 468 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 5: think the relationship will change, and I think from Davis's standpoint, 469 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 5: it has to. 470 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: It has to change. 471 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 5: It doesn't mean it has to change for the worse, 472 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 5: but it's going to be different, I think for sure. 473 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a little bit of a good cop bad 474 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 7: cop thing when it comes to the coaches, and so 475 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 7: just Davis now have to be a bad cop. Yes, 476 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 7: that's what I'm saying. So the position coach is more 477 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 7: of the good cop, you know. And so when when 478 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 7: the office coordinator the head coach yells at you and 479 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 7: you're in the tank. Then you go to your position 480 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 7: group and then I have the responsibility to bring you back, 481 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 7: you know, and maybe yeah, coaches, just I don't know 482 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 7: what he's doing today, you know, let's just think about 483 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 7: it like this. Let's think about, you know, how we 484 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 7: can improve improve it. And so he had his warm 485 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 7: fuzzy They got to get close and and Davis got 486 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 7: to be the guy who talked him down off the ledge, 487 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 7: or you know, made him feel better, or cracked a 488 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 7: joke about what Sean just yelled him at him about, 489 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 7: or you know, was the shoulder to lean on and 490 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 7: let both take out his frustrations on Sean Payton. And 491 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 7: it was an ear for him there. But he can't 492 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 7: do that with Davis anymore. Now he has to do 493 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 7: that with Logan. And Davis has to has to be 494 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 7: in charge. He wasn't in charge before. He has to 495 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 7: be articulating the mission of the offense. He has to 496 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 7: be standing up in front of everyone. And yeah, he 497 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 7: has to call guys out. He didn't have to call 498 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 7: guys out before. Hmm, what you don't agree, No, it's no. 499 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: You guys be no better than I about the dynamics 500 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 3: of it. 501 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 2: I just wonder to say that again slowly? 502 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 8: Will you. 503 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely not? Okay? No, I I get where you guys 504 00:23:59,160 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: are coming from. 505 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: It just feels like if you've built a certain type 506 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: of relationship, somebody wouldn't bow Nix see through that. Wouldn't 507 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: that become pretty obvious that Davis is now like has 508 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: he become? 509 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know, when you're younger, you're like Davis. 510 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 7: You remember remember last year when we used to hang out? 511 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 7: What happened to that? No, it's gonna has to be different. 512 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be Yeah. I don't have a Hey god, Davis, 513 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 2: what's up? Mans? 514 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 7: No, but it is gonna be a little bit of 515 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 7: a probably shock for for bo to see. The dynamics 516 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 7: is gonna shift it for Davis too. But he wants 517 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 7: to ascend that ladder. He wants to be a head coach, 518 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 7: and you gotta change your tune a little bit. 519 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: Come on, BEV, it will change Okay. 520 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, So in that case, is it is an 521 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: incumbent for Davis? So this is really interesting in the dynamics, 522 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: is he now on Sean's side of this good cop 523 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: bad cop thing, and Logan Kilgore has to play the 524 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: role of Hey, it's okay, I'm going to talk you 525 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: down off the ledge. 526 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 3: I'm going to you know, be the one thing for it. 527 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 2: Will be Logan Kilgore's job. 528 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot of things that he'll be 529 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 5: tasked with, but one of those things is if bow 530 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 5: Nicks gets frustrated and expresses frustration to his position coach 531 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 5: who this year's Logan Kilgore, Logan Kilgore has to, in 532 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 5: a smart way decide, Okay, how much of that am 533 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 5: I going to take back to either Davis or Sean? 534 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 5: Because I bow has to have the confidence that I 535 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 5: can say things to you that are going to stay 536 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 5: in confidence, and I can express frustration like how about 537 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 5: we get the call in quicker? 538 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 2: Okay? 539 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 5: And Logan probably won't go to Davis and Sean immediately 540 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 5: and say, hey, here's exactly what BO said. 541 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 2: How about we get the call in quicker? 542 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 5: And they're not going to do that right, but he'll 543 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 5: he'll let them know in the right way that maybe, 544 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 5: you know, this is something we've got to get better 545 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 5: at her Man. 546 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: There's a lot of you know that those. 547 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 5: Dynamics that coaches have to sort of at that level, 548 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 5: kind of sort through, but Logan Kilgore has to establish 549 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 5: I'm in this with you. 550 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 2: This is our room. 551 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 5: My job is to help you become the absolute best 552 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 5: player you can become in this year, third year period. 553 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 5: And I'm gonna coach you hard. I'm gonna work on footwork, 554 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 5: probably gonna be some things. I tell you, it's gonna 555 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 5: pish you off. I'm not trying to nothing personal, but 556 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 5: I'm also not gonna let you slide on things because 557 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 5: I know you don't want me to, so. 558 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: Let me go to the other side of that. 559 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: So is this now on coming to Davis Webb to 560 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: change his mentality of the way he's operated with Bow? 561 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 5: For sure, because now he's a coordinator. Okay, but he's 562 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 5: never done that before. Well, I mean he's got he's 563 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 5: got to learn. But he that relationship will be different. 564 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 5: Doesn't mean it's gonna necessarily be bad between he and Bow, 565 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 5: but it'll it'll be different. And Davis will, at times, 566 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 5: I think, use Logan to pass on messages. I mean, 567 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 5: Davis might say things in a coaches meeting about Bo 568 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 5: to Logan and he's expecting Logan not to go back 569 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 5: and repeat verbatim what I said, but to soften it 570 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 5: up if necessary, and to get the message to Bow. 571 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 5: These are things we've got to improve on. These are 572 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 5: things we've got to work. 573 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: On, yes to an extent. 574 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 7: You know, last year, in the last couple of years, 575 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 7: Davis Webb's job has been to help the quarterback get 576 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 7: better and look good. Right, he wants Bo to look good, 577 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 7: He wants Bo to feel comfortable, he wants Bo to 578 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 7: be in the best spot. But now that's not his job. 579 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 7: I mean, it's part of it, but it's the entire offense. 580 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 7: And so if Bo isn't it doesn't see this receiver 581 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 7: over there, and you're actually making the receiver look bad. Now, Bo, 582 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 7: then his reaction is going to have to be a 583 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 7: little different than it used to be. It's going to 584 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 7: have to be a little more stern because there the 585 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 7: team is watching this unfold. You're not the quarterback coach anymore. 586 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 7: You're you're the coach of the entire offense. I need 587 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 7: you to see when it's actually the quarterback's fault and 588 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 7: the receiver is the one who's doing it right. And 589 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 7: we got to get this. We got to hit him 590 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 7: on that comeback, Bo, you know that kind of stuff 591 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 7: that you don't have to do as a quarterback coach. 592 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 7: You can kind of soft play it a little bit 593 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 7: and wait for the meeting afterwards to kind of say, hey, 594 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 7: you know you got to look up. No, man, you're 595 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 7: in charge of the receivers, the running backs, the tight ends, 596 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 7: the offensive line, and the quarterback. Now, everybody has to 597 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 7: be at their best. And if you, as a quarterback 598 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 7: are not pulling your end of the bargain, then I 599 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 7: have to let you know in front of everyone. 600 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 3: Okay, that's I guess that's fair. And this is the 601 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: last question I happen on this. 602 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: I think I find it very fascinating the dynamics that 603 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: are shifting here for the Broncos, and I assume ultimately 604 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: all be good and be better for everybody. And I 605 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: think I imagine Davis Webb's knowledge of how to communicate with 606 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: Bo nix as his quarterbacks coach will help him even 607 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: here as an offensive coordinator. 608 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: I just sort of wonder, again, not sound. 609 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: Too naive to this, Will bow Nixby is receptive if 610 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: Davis has got to be tough on him when he's 611 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: never experienced that. This is like human stuff, like like 612 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: when you're talking about the way you are with a 613 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: dynamic with a friend or a coworker, and all of 614 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: a sudden they got to be tough on you because 615 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: they're your boss. 616 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 5: I'll tell you why I think why I think Bo 617 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 5: will be okay with that is because he grew up 618 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 5: the son of a coach. He's seen it. He's been 619 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 5: around football his whole life, you know what. And I 620 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 5: would think Davis Webb will have a conversation maybe a 621 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 5: lunch or whatever with bow Nicks, and I think he 622 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 5: just broached that topic. Listen, bro, you know this is 623 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 5: gonna be new for me, it's gonna be new for you. 624 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 5: But there are gonna be times that I got to 625 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 5: get after you. And I want you to take this 626 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 5: the right way, right because if I don't get after you, 627 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be able to I'm not gonna be 628 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 5: able to criticize or try to coach hard the receiver 629 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 5: or the tight ends or the running backs. You know 630 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 5: why they're doing this thing. So the team has to 631 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 5: hear me at times go in on you a little bit, 632 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 5: and if you take it the right way, then they 633 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 5: will all be obligated to take it the right way. 634 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, like Bill Belichick fus famously dressing down Tom Brady 635 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 7: in front of the entire team and. 636 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: Guys were shocked by that. Yeah, but they came into 637 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: that auys, that relationship. Like Bill Belichick was the head 638 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: coach when Tom Brady was drafted. 639 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 7: I think Bo's intelligent enough to understand that that has 640 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 7: to develop that way. Okay, it cannot. He cannot. 641 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: He can't be as warm fuzzy forever. And it's funny. 642 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: Chempaygne clearly tickled by. 643 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 7: He want his development, not just not just his warm 644 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 7: fuzzy joke, but the development that their relationship is. 645 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: Going to change. He likes it. 646 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 7: He does think it's funny. He thinks it's cool. He's 647 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 7: gonna lean into it a little bit. And I think 648 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 7: good for Sean. You know, he's he's able to kind 649 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 7: of sit back and chuckle because as they're not going 650 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 7: to be joined at the hip anymore, you know, Davis 651 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 7: is gonna ask say, come on, boat out, you know 652 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 7: that kind of stuff and practice where you never had 653 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 7: to do that anymore in the past. 654 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: Yes, but now he does, and Sean's gonna be over 655 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: there just chuck lim. 656 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: I like your point though, Dave, specifically about maybe they 657 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: have a chance to talk about it ahead of time. 658 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, let him know. I mean yeah. 659 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 5: What they don't want it, what players don't like and 660 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 5: coaches don't like it either, is to get surprised on 661 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 5: something absolutely right. Just here, here's how things going to be. 662 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 5: Nothing personal. Don't take it that way, but I got it. 663 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 5: You know there'll be times where I got to chew 664 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 5: your ass in front of this team. Take it the 665 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 5: right way, and we're going to be good. All right, 666 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 5: we'll come back. 667 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: I got a fun stat on our new wide receiver 668 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: Jaylen Waddell while of Courtland Sudden. I think you guysre 669 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: gonna like this. Plus, I'm gonna say something about the 670 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: Rockies that's probably gona upset you, Dave, and I'm sorry 671 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: about that, but it has to. 672 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: At least you've said something about him. You know they're 673 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: on a one game heater. Hey, I know that. 674 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna be the positive guy, you're gonna be 675 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: the negative guy, and I already know that. 676 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: I can't wait for it.